New subject: Who is ICT Board? - Capacity Building

4 May 2010

      --
Gilda,

We are awaiting you to unveil the 6 gents/ladies Task force on ICT below -
specifically, their 
mandate/objectives who they are accountable to, and it's scope of
participatory engagement with 
the wider multi stakeholders..

When is this coming..?

Regards,
Harry

-----Original Message-----
From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On
Behalf Of godera@skyweb.co.ke
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 11:39 AM
To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke
Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? - Capacity Building

Listers,

I think this is a very healthy debate for the industry. 
Esther, whereas whatever body will face the same queries over their mandate,
in my view, what is most important is that each respective body plays it
part to the full and possibly even surpass the expectations of the industry.
As long as they are all forging towards one goal (making Kenya the ICT Hub
in Africa)in all their activities, the industry will have gained.
What is important is that all these bodies do not fight each other, rather
complement one another to grow this industry.
We must all work together for good of this industry and nation.

Gilda Odera
Chair, BPO/ITES Working Group at the Office of the Prime Minister

(For those not aware, a group of 6 persons from Private Sector and
Government was recently put together for a two year term to advise on all
these issues
being raised in this list. Your views are being noted.)    

Quoting Esther Muchiri <emuchiri@andestbites.com>:
...
Good suggestions Harry, but while I am not a pessimist, I have a 
feeling that with time, whatever body will be formed will still face 
the same attacks/questions from the industry on the mandate etc
Perhaps the upcoming public forum will begin to shed some light in the 
direction ICT development in Kenya should follow?
From: kictanet-bounces+emuchiri=andestbites.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+emuchiri=andestbites.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke
] On Behalf Of Harry Delano
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 6:21 PM
To: emuchiri@andestbites.com
Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? - Capacity Building
Lilian,
This is so comprehensive.. Hope, notes are being taken from these 
resourceful discussions coming in.
Mine, is just a proposal. Clearly, the different agencies existing, 
happen to work within some form of
mandate in their own areas of jurisdiction or so, whether the mandates 
are competing mandates or
a duplication, it may be quite difficult to just "merge" them..
Clearly, Listers - one thing that is now clear, is that ICT is a huge 
phenomenon, that cuts' out across
the entire spectrum of Govt and ministries - beyond INFOCOM.  This 
means, stakeholders from other
Govt. sectors need to be brought into the fold to harmonize strategy..
I suppose therefore, this may call for an oversight body - to which, 
each of the Govt agencies can have a
representation. This oversight, could encompass reps, from all 
sectors, private , and govt. All interests
should be declared as a pre-requisite to serving on this panel for 
purposes of accountability and
transparency..
If in order, I could float some names for such a body, such as:-
*	National ICT Task Force - (NICTAF)
*	National ICT Agency of Kenya - (NICTAK)
*	National ICT Oversight Board -(NICTOB)
Other names are welcome..
Harry
_____
From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke]
On Behalf Of Lilian Karanja
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:43 AM
To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? - Capacity Building
Yes, Robert.......I see.
Certainly, what GoK needs is ICT Governance. "Without governance you 
do not produce good decisions consistently. 'Governance' in the 
context of the management of ICT crafts a clear framework in which 
decisions are made, who makes the decisions about business and 
technology developments, who has input into the decision-making process
and how the decisions are formed".
In my opinion, the ICT Board (under Min. Of Info Comm), the 
Directorate of e-Government (under OP), the GITS Department (under 
Min. Of Finance), and both the CCK and NCS (both under Min. Of Info
Comm) seem to have related ICT goals and objectives. They
(unfortunately) don't seem to oftenly collaborate in their 
decision-making. I personally like the idea of a KITA like SITA/RITA.
Sometime ago, the Directorate of e-Government seemed to come-up into a 
KITA (in the way we think of SITA/RITA), but did not 'mature' into the
institution envisioned.
GoK ICT Governance Decisions would ideally focus on:
.         Determining the strategic approach to e-government and ICT
within
GoK
.         How the e-government initiatives should be used in GoK, to
improve
services, reduce costs, develop the community, etc
.         How fundamental e-government and ICT is to GoK and the country
at
large
.         The way e-government and ICT is to be managed (e.g. by what
mechanism and how resources are to be managed)
.          The way investments are to be made and policies on realising
and
sharing benefits
.          How the required skills are to be procured (through strategic
partnerships, in-house, through consortium, etc)
.          The principles that underlie the ICT architecture
.          Setting priorities and determining e-government and ICT
investment programmes
.          Managing the foundations and regulations regarding the core
elements of the infrastructure:
o   Personnel - who will be responsible for their professional development
and where certain skills should reside
o    Methods and techniques - what project/programme management,
development
and operations management standards should be used
o    Charging mechanisms and services standards (performance management)
o   Information - standards to enable the effective sharing of information
...
o    Core applications - intranet, finance systems, payroll, registries
...
personnel standards, etc
o   Technical - network, consolidated service desk, data standards
o    Security
o    Legal
This has conspicuously missed within GoK, in the past years. We look 
to GoK greatly to spur 'mwananchi' by keenly committing to 'add value'
to broadband so that their attitude, confidence and appreciation 
towards the use ICTs and the Internet increases (especially in the 
rural areas, as they access Government e-Services), thus creating an 
Internet Community and an IT culture. Am not sure we necessarily need 
support from outside to do this, even donor funds (we don't need). We 
can do it on our own, as we (Kenya) are, now, known to be an emerging 
knowledge economy. GoK can lead the way to create a Kenyan way 
'working with'and using ICT. We have so many Youth (any way), who are 
jobless! Lets purposefully develop capacity of these young and use them
sufficiently.
I rest my case, and I apologise for any misunderstandings.
LILIAN
--- On Tue, 4/6/10, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Who is ICT Board? - Capacity Building
To: "Lilian Karanja" <l_wkaranja@yahoo.com>
Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 12:32 AM
Hi Lilian,
Just wanted to clarify an issue, government has some of the best 
trained ICT fellows and I know because I have regularly interacted 
with them for over 10 years.  Do not be deceived by the fact that they 
are no fancy websites or iphone applications the men and women who 
keep the government systems running are basically miracle workers.
How they do it is beyond my comprehension and the last thin they need 
is a capacity building what they need like all with the other areas of 
government is a co-ordinator or a Deputy Prime Minister IS.  Hon Raila 
has definitely moved government efficiency a notch higher and without 
a "dream team" or expatriate consultants all he did was dust off the
diamonds within.
Government has a beautiful retention strategy which is we pay you for
2 hours a day and we expect you to only deliver the paid for work, if 
you are unable to find something profitable to do with the balance 6 
hours then that is your problem.
What we need is a deputy prime minister information systems or ICT or 
BPO whatever the name of which KICTB has proven not to be to "desilo"
(term coined by Dr. Ndemo during the PM Round table meeting) the 
government activities.
Can you government ICT gurus stick your heads out and defend your 
selves, I know many of you are on this listing, so be warned that next 
time I need to put the record strait on your behalf I will actually name
names.
Robert Yawe
KAY System Technologies Ltd
Phoenix House, 6th Floor
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
_____
From: Lilian Karanja <l_wkaranja@yahoo.com>
To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Sent: Mon, 5 April, 2010 16:58:41
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? Hijacked
Dear PS:
It is a little discouraging to hear you say that the issues discussed 
in this topic are 'kuchongoana tu'. We look up to you, and others in 
Government and also in the private sector who are so passionate about 
the use of ICTs and the Internet to create opportunities for all, in 
Kenya, and see that ICT remains a reliable vehicle for economic growth 
and development. So, please don't stop listening to us, patiently and 
we beseech you to continue in your wisdom in dealing with these matters.
This topic, 'Who is ICT Board?' as well as that of 'eGovernment is it 
a myth or reality?' have raised important questions that should be 
addressed with 'a big heart' and an open mind. As you have noted, a 
town hall meeting is good and always welcome. However, moving forward, 
it needs to be clear how ICT Board interacts with Government and how 
it promotes the existence of an Institutional Framework for ICT 
management in Government. Clearly, the ICT Board manages of a huge 
chunk of donor funds for ICT growth in Kenya, eGovernment and the 
likes (through the KTCIP), but still the Government lags behind in their
ICT technical know-how and skills.
While one of their mandate (the ICT Board) is Capacity Building 
(Providing GoK and other stakeholders with skills, capacity and 
funding for anchor implementation of ICT projects for development) 
over time we have only seen laxity in the management of ICT by 
Government i.e. poor websites, unsatisfactory performance of legacy 
systems, inconsistent DNS & IP address management, meagre IT Security 
(web, network, etc), little or no R&D and M&E of ICT & eGovt, etc. But 
may be it is not deliberate laxity, it is that the Government Officers 
who manage IT issues in Government are not continuously trained in all
and
pertinent areas to raise experts and skillful personnel.
...
I hope this is an area ICT Board can address, when they say that part 
of their mandate is Capacity Building, otherwise we have Government 
Officers who cannot do much to use broadband properly and 
strategically as well as make eGovernment a reality. The cabilities of 
these Officers should be close to, if not better than those in the 
private sector. And when GoK finally has real experts and engineers in 
ICT, a retention strategy MUST be adopted to keep them and recompense 
them accordingly. This is the future of Government IT, 'people who are
knowledgeable and focused on a bright future'.
...
LILIAN
--- On Sun, 4/4/10, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
From: bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? Hijacked
To: "Lilian" <l_wkaranja@yahoo.com>
Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Date: Sunday, April 4, 2010, 9:42 AM
Barrack,
Several posts have come by on the role of ICT and I think it will be 
wise if we sorted this in a town hall meeting similar to one we had on
Malili.
...
Honestly it feels as though some Neanderthal decided to create these 
agencies without putting some thought to it.  Criticisms are good only 
when you point out where there are gaps.
The other day I posted a policy proposal for comments but only one 
person did respond.  What it means then is that this forum ni ya
kuchongoana tu.
Which really is unfortunate.  I have four other policy proposals that 
I really think should push through then arouse sufficient interest 
from the membership here.
Ndemo.
...
This is truly "Jicho Pevu", i think some answers to this questions 
are very much in order as we celebrate Easter, can someone provide 
us with a list of all agencies involved in ICTs and ICT4D so that we 
can do some tooth comb analysis, i saw a  post from Paul on what the 
board has achieved early this year, that was very much in order we 
need something from NCS as well plus any other agencies.
Regards
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Vitalis Olunga <volunga@yahoo.com
<http://us.mc452.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=volunga@yahoo.com> > wrote:
...
There is also another body , National Communications Secretarait. 
What is the diffrence between NCS and ICT Baord and how do the two 
bodies relate with respect to  advisory services to the governement 
on ICT matters?
Regards
Vitalis
________________________________
From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk
<http://us.mc452.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
...
To: volunga@yahoo.com
<http://us.mc452.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=volunga@yahoo.com>
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke
<http://us.mc452.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.
or.ke>
...
Sent: Sat, April 3, 2010 12:03:22 PM
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? Hijacked
Hi,
I rest my case on this issue, the ICT Board is a monolith, Try 
reading this... (pdf file), as I feared it is mandated to do 
anything and everything under the sun that could be called ICT 
which includes your microwave oven and copier.
Functions of Kenya ICT Board
The core functions of Kenya ICT Board as documented in the Kenya 
Gazette Legal Notice No 26 of the May 2007:
.  To advice the government on all relevant matters pertaining to 
development, coordination  (remember the PM post) and promotion of 
ICT industries in the country.
.  Promote both locally and internationally the opportunities for 
investments in ICT technology .  Facilitate and manage ICT 
industrial incubation parks and technology parks together with 
associated facilities on sites, estates and land.
.  Partner with agents within and without the country to carry out 
such functions as it may consider necessary.
.  To transform and empower society through deployment and use of ICTs.
.  Carry out any other activity to promote and develop ICT products 
and services.
Have a restful Easter as we await the limited range 4G, yes you 
guessed it I still have a 3G issue and I am in Nairobi.
Regards
_______________________________________________
kictanet mailing list
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke
<http://us.mc452.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.
or.ke>
...
...
http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet
This message was sent to: otieno.barrack@gmail.com
<http://us.mc452.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=otieno.barrack@gmail.com
...
Unsubscribe or change your options at
http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barrack%40gmail.
...
com
...
...
--
Barrack O. Otieno
Geneva
Skype: barrack.otieno
_______________________________________________
kictanet mailing list
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke
<http://us.mc452.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.
or.ke>
...
http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet
This message was sent to: bitange@jambo.co.ke
<http://us.mc452.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bitange@jambo.co.ke>
Unsubscribe or change your options at 
http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo
.co.ke
----------------------------------------------
This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by 
Jambo MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
---------------------------------------------
"easy access to the world"
----------------------------------------------
This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by 
Jambo MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
---------------------------------------------
"easy access to the world"
_______________________________________________
kictanet mailing list
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke
<http://us.mc452.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.
or.ke>
http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet
This message was sent to: l_wkaranja@yahoo.com 
<http://us.mc452.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=l_wkaranja@yahoo.com>
Unsubscribe or change your options at
http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/l_wkaranja%40yaho
o.com
-------------------------------------------------
This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/

_______________________________________________
kictanet mailing list
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke
http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet

This message was sent to: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Unsubscribe or change your
options at
http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/harry%40comtelsys.co.ke

Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? - Capacity Building

Harry Delano

godera＠skyweb.co.ke

warigia bowman

Harry Delano

godera＠skyweb.co.ke

tags

participants (3)