Dear Ali and all, If you recall, KICTANet, Drake and KIMA were all invited to serve on the board in 2007, initially as associate members and then admitted as full board members through a board resolution. Stakeholders interviewed during the KENIC Institutional assessment process (April 2012) identified stakeholder's representation as one of the top 5 issues of concern. The assessment exercise also found that only 3 of the organisations represented on the board, (TESPOK, KENET and CCK) had "provided their organisation's registration documents". In addition, the assessment noted, "There is a lack of consistency in the documents required of members and their organisation". There was an agreement that it is necessary to implement recommendations coming out of the assessment exercise, among these are recommendations about board members tenure of office, appointment, retirement, etc. We had hoped to discuss and finalise (implement) this during the August AGM. Anyway, P.S Dr. Ndemo's statement on BD: "I think the right question we need to ask is where the term stakeholder is defined as only registered firms. The Constitution now demands public participation, which I assume to mean stakeholders," I agree with him. And at the same time note that who and how many stakeholders may vary for various organisations as policy, regulatory and technical environment changes (e.g. several key stakeholders, normally stay put others may migrate in and out) and as such we must consider issues such as: Who are the stakeholders? Who is responsible for identifying them? Processes need to be clearly identified and agreed and followed. There must be transparency they are important issues for discussion. The assessment recommends among other things, definition of "adequate particulars... after a thorough stakeholder review on importance of stakeholder, purpose of engagement and expected outcome upon engagement" Hope this will be an agenda item for the upcoming AGM and wish KeNIC all the best. Best Alice On 15/08/2012 04:41, Ali Hussein wrote:

Listers

I feel that as a former board member I cannot let this news report in the Business Daily go unanswered. In the interest of balanced reporting allow me to state the following:

More Government involvement I guess is something that had to happen. Not sure its necessarily a good thing.

The current board composition beyond what the Business Daily reported is that Government has defacto 5 Board seats at KeNIC - 3 from CCK - Lucky Waendi (who resigned almost immediately after I did. The resignation of Lucky is telling since it came after a month where her Directorship was withdrawn by CCK only to be reinstated after the then Chairperson of KeNIC, Alice Munyua was mandated by the full board to seek audience with the CCK Ag DG to reconsider her withdrawal as she provided valuably Company Secretarial duties. Although this slot on the Board remains empty, technically it can still be filled). The other directors representing CCK at KeNIC are Michael Katundu and the Director General. Government is also represented by someone from the eGovernment Secretariat. In addition to the new appointment from the Ministry of Information & Communication we now have at least technically 5 Government Representatives on the Board of KeNIC.

The other board members are from KIMA (Kenya Internet Marketing Assiciation) which was represented by Moses Kemibaro who has since resigned and not been replaced to date; Drake which I served and resigned so that I can be replaced by somebody else from Drake. For full disclosure the reason for my resignation are two fold:-

1. The membership of Drake which is primarily made up of Domain Registrars felt that I no longer represented their interests therefore I felt that it was incumbent upon me to resign and let fresh blood come in.

2. The board charter (at least up until when I resigned) was clear that a board member can only serve two terms and should then be replaced. I'm sure this is something that KeNIC isn't fully implementing as there are Board Members who have been serving since 2002/3. I felt that this may create a positive precedence and allow for more transparency in the circulation of board members going forward.

I also believe that there is at least one other board member who we are not sure which organization he represents.

My humble opinion is that the issue is mainly one of Corporate Governance. When an institution that was primarily formed as a Multi-Stakeholder entity becomes embroiled in what seems like Schizophrenic behavior you have a situation as we do today. Why do I say this? You can't wake up one morning and decide that because one Organization isn't registered then it should loose its board seat while others whose registrations haven't been completed still retain their seats. I'm referring here to Drake & KIMA. It doesn't seat very well and smacks of Double Standards.

The issues at KeNIC cannot be wished away ladies & gentlemen. Packing it with more directors from Government although will temporarily steady the ship moves it away from being a Multi-stakeholder organization.

In a posting last month I intimated at the real issues. Let me recap here the genesis of the problem as I see it. I by no means have a monopoly of ideas on what the real issues are but this is wholly my personal opinion and observations during my time as a director at KeNIC.

Firstly there have been mainly two opposing (sometimes 3) sides at the Board Level:-

1. Government Functionaries that would like KeNIC to operate as a wholly owned subsidiary of CCK;

2. Private Sector types (then represented by myself and Moses Kemibaro) who would like KeNIC to embrace more private sector ethos;

3. And Not For Profit types who advocated a middle ground...

With this kind of representation it was both a major strength (when it worked) and at the same time a major weakness) since some of us sometimes felt that the bureaucracy was stifling the implementation of the Strategic Plan. Case in point:- it took the Board more than six months to approve the marketing plan!!

There were allegations that one of us at the board level took to personally intimidate the staff to the extent of being abusive. These allegations were never substantiated but the fact that they were even raised is a major issue and an indictment of the board's leadership.

Then there is the issue of the new ICT law that requires KeNIC to be licensed by the CCK. I make two observations here:-

1. Firstly that there has always been suspicion that one of us at the board level used machiavelli type manipulation to ensure that the bill drafting included a clause that would make KeNIC a licensee of the CCK and basically make the principle of Multi-Stakeholderism null and void. In fact I can say here with total conviction that this issue at some point totally paralysed us at the Board Level and that TESPOK (then represented) by Sammy Buruchara was vehemently and violently opposed to this clause to the extent that he personally accused some board members representing CCK with being behind this to ensure that they control KeNIC. Board minutes will clearly attest to this.

2. Is it good practice to have a Licensor sit at an organization that it licenses or is required by law to license? This is the genesis of the issue that is facing us today. CCK has 3 seats at KeNIC. It is not for me to judge but for the community to do so.. The analogy here is whether CCK should then also not have board representation at Safaricom and Orange as these two organizations are still partly owned by the people of Kenya and are at the same time licensees of CCK.

By the way there is no right or wrong on how a ccTLD is managed. There are various ways how countries do this. The link below will provide listers with some perspective:

http://www.cctldinfo.com/home.php

The point I am making is that we must decide which way we want KeNIC governed as this situation is getting out of hand and intimating that there are no issues at KeNIC in my opinion is being intellectually dishonest.

At this juncture I commend Dr.Ndemo for moving swiftly to get more information at KeNIC by requesting a board seat for the Min of Infocom. This will hopefully bring to light the issues at hand and probably see KeNIC take its rightful place in the InfoComm space in our beloved country.

Interestingly I see parallels in the fight for control of KeNIC and what is happening at the global level with the ITRs, the forthcoming WCIT in Dubai and the fight for control of ICANN.

Lastly I urge Alice to come forward and also say her piece as the report in the Business Daily may not have fully captured the situation.

I remain your servant

Ali Hussein

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The Ministry of Information and Communications is seeking more seats on the board of the Kenya Network Information Centre (Kenic), to help solve what it says are problems at the domain registration firm.

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Kivuva Clarification on your last paragraph. *"We have been talking about corporate governance for a while. Kenic takes Ksh 12Million from its account and invests it in a fixed bond in Amana Asset Management Company. Reminds me of African countries saving their foreigh exchange reserves in offshore accounts then getting the same money pumped back into the economy as loans. Building the KeNIC brand would be futile with such practices. What does the community think?"* About a year and a half ago as KeNIC was embarking on its Strategic Plan, the Board realized that there was at any given time Kshs.10m sitting in its CBA Bank account which was not earning any interest and in fact KeNIC was actually paying ledger fees on the same!! The Finance Committee of which I was then the chair deliberated on this issue and recommended to the full board that at the very least this money needed 'to work' for KeNIC. The board approved and we initiated a tendering process where various fund managers and the bank were invited to pitch for managing this cashflow for interest bearing purposes. The winning company was Amana Capital which fitted our requirements then. These requires were that:- 1. That the original capital will under all circumstances be fully protected and that KeNIC WILL NOT loose this original 10m. 2. That the winning company accept to only 'EAT WHAT IT KILLS' which basically meant that their remuneration will only be through a percentage of the interest income earned. This was agreed at 12.5%. 3. This arrangement wasn't a bond or fixed deposit type but more like Treasury Management for cashflow purposes. At that time we felt that this best captured KeNIC's Investment Policy. I want to assure the community that this money has not been lost or laundered or anything of that sort as it is held in escrow and available within 24-48 hours of its demand and that Amana Capital doesn't have any access to it without the explicit authorization of KeNIC signatories. Lastly, contrary to the implication that this money may be lost it is actually earning over 300k in interest every month for KeNIC. At least this was the case when I resigned in April this year. I hope this clarifies the matter. Ali Hussein On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com>wrote:

It is coming out quite clearly that the very nature of the Public Private Partnership (multistakeholderism) that KENIC use is now at risk with the CCK taking over literally. I don't see a very big line between the Ministry of communications and CCK, they are all cut from the same cloth. If the ministry cannot influence decision with it's current numbers at the board, them it seems the latest move is a way of taking total control of Kenic, with capacity to veto decisions and dictate its stand. The community should debate and come up with a clear road-map. Since KENIC is a multistakeholder organisation, using PPP model, to change its status, you must get approval from the community. Its indeed commendable that the boards position is inline with the community's aspiration, as noted in the 56th Kenic Board meeting as it states: "KENIC’s structure is based on multi stakeholder partnership (MSP) model, touted for Internet governance worldwide. ICANN and most domain registries have adopted this approach. Licensing and regulation of KENIC by the Commission which is one of its stakeholders and board members would be seen as distorting this model framework by elevating government over the other stakeholders in management of these Internet resources"

There has been talk that the AGM slotted for 24th August (date according to Business Daily article) is planned to be closed, to lock out the community. We must first ensure that the AGM us open to all and not closed. Making the AGM locked means there are people who fear reprisals form the community. Let's not beat around the bush, KENIC belongs to all of us.

We have been talking about corporate governance for a while. Kenic takes Ksh 12Million from its account and invests it in a fixed bond in Amana Asset Management Company . Reminds me of African countries saving their foreigh exchange reserves in offshore accounts then getting the same money pumped back into the economy as loans. Building the KeNIC brand would be futile with such practices. What does the community think?

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Kivuva Now you are asking the right questions..And this is something that should be raised in the AGM. Ali Hussein +254 773/713 601113 Sent from my iPhone® On Aug 17, 2012, at 3:02 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:

Thank you Ali for the rejoider.

I was not insinuating misappropriation at any time. Actually I've read board minutes from the time the investments were being moved from Old Mutual to Amana Asset management company, and had seen the genesis of the decision.

My main concern is why Kenic can afford to accumulate high stacks of capital while they have many core projects to implement related to a registry. Like upgrading the CoCCA registry system, the infrastructure, and having a bigger budget for marketing. There is no point for the board to maintain that marketing should only be left to registrars because the success of any marketing campaign affects it's bottom line. I hope you get the drift.

Regards

On 17 August 2012 12:37, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Kivuva

Clarification on your last paragraph.

"We have been talking about corporate governance for a while. Kenic takes Ksh 12Million from its account and invests it in a fixed bond in Amana Asset Management Company. Reminds me of African countries saving their foreigh exchange reserves in offshore accounts then getting the same money pumped back into the economy as loans. Building the KeNIC brand would be futile with such practices. What does the community think?"

About a year and a half ago as KeNIC was embarking on its Strategic Plan, the Board realized that there was at any given time Kshs.10m sitting in its CBA Bank account which was not earning any interest and in fact KeNIC was actually paying ledger fees on the same!!

The Finance Committee of which I was then the chair deliberated on this issue and recommended to the full board that at the very least this money needed 'to work' for KeNIC. The board approved and we initiated a tendering process where various fund managers and the bank were invited to pitch for managing this cashflow for interest bearing purposes. The winning company was Amana Capital which fitted our requirements then. These requires were that:-

1. That the original capital will under all circumstances be fully protected and that KeNIC WILL NOT loose this original 10m.

2. That the winning company accept to only 'EAT WHAT IT KILLS' which basically meant that their remuneration will only be through a percentage of the interest income earned. This was agreed at 12.5%.

3. This arrangement wasn't a bond or fixed deposit type but more like Treasury Management for cashflow purposes.

At that time we felt that this best captured KeNIC's Investment Policy.

I want to assure the community that this money has not been lost or laundered or anything of that sort as it is held in escrow and available within 24-48 hours of its demand and that Amana Capital doesn't have any access to it without the explicit authorization of KeNIC signatories.

Lastly, contrary to the implication that this money may be lost it is actually earning over 300k in interest every month for KeNIC.

At least this was the case when I resigned in April this year.

I hope this clarifies the matter.

Ali Hussein

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote: It is coming out quite clearly that the very nature of the Public Private Partnership (multistakeholderism) that KENIC use is now at risk with the CCK taking over literally. I don't see a very big line between the Ministry of communications and CCK, they are all cut from the same cloth. If the ministry cannot influence decision with it's current numbers at the board, them it seems the latest move is a way of taking total control of Kenic, with capacity to veto decisions and dictate its stand. The community should debate and come up with a clear road-map. Since KENIC is a multistakeholder organisation, using PPP model, to change its status, you must get approval from the community. Its indeed commendable that the boards position is inline with the community's aspiration, as noted in the 56th Kenic Board meeting as it states: "KENIC’s structure is based on multi stakeholder partnership (MSP) model, touted for Internet governance worldwide. ICANN and most domain registries have adopted this approach. Licensing and regulation of KENIC by the Commission which is one of its stakeholders and board members would be seen as distorting this model framework by elevating government over the other stakeholders in management of these Internet resources"

There has been talk that the AGM slotted for 24th August (date according to Business Daily article) is planned to be closed, to lock out the community. We must first ensure that the AGM us open to all and not closed. Making the AGM locked means there are people who fear reprisals form the community. Let's not beat around the bush, KENIC belongs to all of us.

We have been talking about corporate governance for a while. Kenic takes Ksh 12Million from its account and invests it in a fixed bond in Amana Asset Management Company . Reminds me of African countries saving their foreigh exchange reserves in offshore accounts then getting the same money pumped back into the economy as loans. Building the KeNIC brand would be futile with such practices. What does the community think?

Regards -- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva (lordmwesh) For Business Development Transworld Computer Channels Cel: 0722402248 twitter.com/lordmwesh www.transworldAfrica.com | Fluent in computing kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know

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On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Sammy Buruchara <buruchara@me.com> wrote:

Dear Listers,****

** **

<snip>

At the dawn of Internet in Kenya, we all relied on Mr. Randy Bush in Oregon USA to register .ke domains.

I don't think Randy ever actually registered domains for .ke (or anyone). IIRC, he offered (via PSG) free Secondary name services to many ccTLD that did not have the werewithal to run secondary services for themselves. -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel

McTim, On this one, you are wrong (for the first time) :) Besides running primary and secondary nameservers for .KE .... Randy (via PSG) also handled all registrations for .KE (and maintained the root database for the cctld). Best regards, Brian [image: logo] *Brian Munyao Longwe* | Mobile: 254715964281 http://mashilingi.blogspot.com <http://www.facebook.com/brianmunyao> Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/brianmunyao> <http://www.twitter.com/blongwe> Twitter <http://www.twitter.com/blongwe> <http://ke.linkedin.com/pub/brian-munyao-longwe/0/32/254> LinkedIn<http://ke.linkedin.com/pub/brian-munyao-longwe/0/32/254> Contact me: [image: Skype] blongwe Want a signature like mine? <http://r1.wisestamp.com/r/landing?promo=16&dest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisestamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_16> Click here.<http://r1.wisestamp.com/r/landing?promo=16&dest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisestamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_16> On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 5:17 PM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Sammy Buruchara <buruchara@me.com> wrote:

...

Dear Listers,****

** **

<snip>

...

At the dawn of Internet in Kenya, we all relied on Mr. Randy Bush in Oregon USA to register .ke domains.

I don't think Randy ever actually registered domains for .ke (or anyone).

IIRC, he offered (via PSG) free Secondary name services to many ccTLD that did not have the werewithal to run secondary services for themselves.

-- Cheers,

McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel

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I think that while there may be genuine governance issues that need to (and will) be dealt with at KENIC, the recent tone of commentary regarding the organisation's affairs has been unnecessarily alarmist and may not provide a complete view of the underlying dynamics. It would be good for us to hear from the board/change manager in order to have a clear understanding of the status. Best regards, Brian [image: logo] *Brian Munyao Longwe* | Mobile: 254715964281 http://mashilingi.blogspot.com <http://www.facebook.com/brianmunyao> Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/brianmunyao> <http://www.twitter.com/blongwe> Twitter <http://www.twitter.com/blongwe> <http://ke.linkedin.com/pub/brian-munyao-longwe/0/32/254> LinkedIn<http://ke.linkedin.com/pub/brian-munyao-longwe/0/32/254> Contact me: [image: Skype] blongwe Want a signature like mine? <http://r1.wisestamp.com/r/landing?promo=16&dest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisestamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_16> Click here.<http://r1.wisestamp.com/r/landing?promo=16&dest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisestamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_16> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:

So in typical Kenyan god-management syndrome, the gods at KENIC have fired all the employees.

If you weren't aware, KENIC's stellar performance is due to the gods making up the board outnumbering the employees by more than double, 7 board members to manage 3 employees.

Anyway , Wanjiku, as usual, has the full low down http://www.wanjiku.co.ke/2012/08/kenic-ceo-fires-first-salvo-at-govt-termina...

Interesting article Rebecca! *Seems telecommunication organizations are going through a rough patch in these times...* On 20 August 2012 13:17, Rebecca Wanjiku <rebeccawanjiku@yahoo.com> wrote:

Apparently Kenic has issued termination letters to all employees, what will the PS increase control over if the organization has no employees? Read more...

http://www.wanjiku.co.ke/2012/08/kenic-ceo-fires-first-salvo-at-govt-termina...

Tel. 254 720 318 925

wanjiku.co.ke

*From:* Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> *To:* rebeccawanjiku@yahoo.com *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Monday, August 20, 2012 12:34 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Ministry seeks more seats at KENIC

McTim,

On this one, you are wrong (for the first time) :)

Besides running primary and secondary nameservers for .KE .... Randy (via PSG) also handled all registrations for .KE (and maintained the root database for the cctld).

Best regards,

Brian

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On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 5:17 PM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Sammy Buruchara <buruchara@me.com> wrote:

Dear Listers,**** ** **

<snip>

At the dawn of Internet in Kenya, we all relied on Mr. Randy Bush in Oregon USA to register .ke domains.

I don't think Randy ever actually registered domains for .ke (or anyone).

IIRC, he offered (via PSG) free Secondary name services to many ccTLD that did not have the werewithal to run secondary services for themselves.

-- Cheers,

McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel

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I must confess that this is development comes as a surprise. I would be very interested to hear from the change manager and/or other member of the board regarding this issue. Brian [image: logo] *Brian Munyao Longwe* | Mobile: 254715964281 http://mashilingi.blogspot.com <http://www.facebook.com/brianmunyao> Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/brianmunyao> <http://www.twitter.com/blongwe> Twitter <http://www.twitter.com/blongwe> <http://ke.linkedin.com/pub/brian-munyao-longwe/0/32/254> LinkedIn<http://ke.linkedin.com/pub/brian-munyao-longwe/0/32/254> Contact me: [image: Skype] blongwe Want a signature like mine? <http://r1.wisestamp.com/r/landing?promo=16&dest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisestamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_16> Click here.<http://r1.wisestamp.com/r/landing?promo=16&dest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisestamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_16> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Rebecca Wanjiku <rebeccawanjiku@yahoo.com>wrote:

Apparently Kenic has issued termination letters to all employees, what will the PS increase control over if the organization has no employees? Read more...

http://www.wanjiku.co.ke/2012/08/kenic-ceo-fires-first-salvo-at-govt-termina...

Tel. 254 720 318 925

wanjiku.co.ke

*From:* Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> *To:* rebeccawanjiku@yahoo.com *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Monday, August 20, 2012 12:34 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Ministry seeks more seats at KENIC

McTim,

On this one, you are wrong (for the first time) :)

Besides running primary and secondary nameservers for .KE .... Randy (via PSG) also handled all registrations for .KE (and maintained the root database for the cctld).

Best regards,

Brian

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On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 5:17 PM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Sammy Buruchara <buruchara@me.com> wrote:

Dear Listers,**** ** **

<snip>

At the dawn of Internet in Kenya, we all relied on Mr. Randy Bush in Oregon USA to register .ke domains.

I don't think Randy ever actually registered domains for .ke (or anyone).

IIRC, he offered (via PSG) free Secondary name services to many ccTLD that did not have the werewithal to run secondary services for themselves.

-- Cheers,

McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel

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On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Rebecca Wanjiku <rebeccawanjiku@yahoo.com>wrote:

Apparently Kenic has issued termination letters to all employees, what will the PS increase control over if the organization has no employees? Read more...

http://www.wanjiku.co.ke/2012/08/kenic-ceo-fires-first-salvo-at-govt-termina...

Tel. 254 720 318 925

wanjiku.co.ke

*From:* Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> *To:* rebeccawanjiku@yahoo.com *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Monday, August 20, 2012 12:34 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Ministry seeks more seats at KENIC

McTim,

On this one, you are wrong (for the first time) :)

Besides running primary and secondary nameservers for .KE .... Randy (via PSG) also handled all registrations for .KE (and maintained the root database for the cctld).

Best regards,

Brian

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On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 5:17 PM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Sammy Buruchara <buruchara@me.com> wrote:

Dear Listers,**** ** **

<snip>

At the dawn of Internet in Kenya, we all relied on Mr. Randy Bush in Oregon USA to register .ke domains.

I don't think Randy ever actually registered domains for .ke (or anyone).

IIRC, he offered (via PSG) free Secondary name services to many ccTLD that did not have the werewithal to run secondary services for themselves.

In this case, McTim, you never registered any .KE domain until KENIC came into being, otherwise you'd know Randy did. I remember with Nostalgia those templates we used to send to Randy Bush in the days, and how one would anxiously await his response - yes, because it meant money then! A successful processing of the template was a big issue - you made a small mistake and it would be rejected. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.

Already feeling the impact. MPESA transaction yet to reflect...3 hours now. After calling...please call again at 2.30p.m. On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Michael Bullut <main@kipsang.com> wrote:

Great history lesson there for some of us... :-)

Sent on the run, Please excuse errors & ommissions! On Aug 21, 2012 10:17 AM, "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:

...

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Rebecca Wanjiku < rebeccawanjiku@yahoo.com> wrote:

...

Apparently Kenic has issued termination letters to all employees, what will the PS increase control over if the organization has no employees? Read more...

http://www.wanjiku.co.ke/2012/08/kenic-ceo-fires-first-salvo-at-govt-termina...

Tel. 254 720 318 925

wanjiku.co.ke

*From:* Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> *To:* rebeccawanjiku@yahoo.com *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Monday, August 20, 2012 12:34 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Ministry seeks more seats at KENIC

McTim,

On this one, you are wrong (for the first time) :)

Besides running primary and secondary nameservers for .KE .... Randy (via PSG) also handled all registrations for .KE (and maintained the root database for the cctld).

Best regards,

Brian

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On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 5:17 PM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Sammy Buruchara <buruchara@me.com>wrote:

Dear Listers,**** ** **

<snip>

At the dawn of Internet in Kenya, we all relied on Mr. Randy Bush in Oregon USA to register .ke domains.

I don't think Randy ever actually registered domains for .ke (or anyone).

IIRC, he offered (via PSG) free Secondary name services to many ccTLD that did not have the werewithal to run secondary services for themselves.

In this case, McTim, you never registered any .KE domain until KENIC came into being, otherwise you'd know Randy did.

I remember with Nostalgia those templates we used to send to Randy Bush in the days, and how one would anxiously await his response - yes, because it meant money then! A successful processing of the template was a big issue - you made a small mistake and it would be rejected.

-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.

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Whatever Sammy's original intentions were, I do believe firing all the employees was toxic not only for him but for the life of the organization. It's never the staff that's at fault, typically the leadership. I'll give a few examples: [1] Sun Tzu and Emperor Wu. For those who have read the story, the leadership of the troops to be led by Wu's concubines is all that changed. The troops remained the same. [2] Kenya Airways - Rose to be one of the most profitable companies in EA with basically the same employees. Leadership changed... [3] Safaricom - It was initially a department in Telkom Kenya. Leadership. [4] For the overused example - Apple & Steve Jobs. The nearly bankrupt organization never laid off all it's employees, merely changed the structure. [5] Uchumi - Purely a leadership issue, as was demonstrated very well by Jonathan Ciano. I believe an approach which begins with getting rid of all the staff is not only myopic but also shows a fundamental inability to inspire/work with diverse people... - Were any of the employees incompetent? - Were any of the employees too expensive (i.e. were they being paid more than they were generating?) **I highly doubt this is the case given the ratio of board members to employees* - Was there gross misconduct on the part of the employees? If this is not the case then firing the employee effectively makes the organization 'toxic'. How? - Talented individuals will avoid it because it's evidently and openly a caustic environment. - Only people who have no alternative will work there given that management has no consideration for tenure (why work for KENIC whilst I can work for an ISP? Pay may be less, visibility/career development etc may take a hit, but I know that I will not be out of a living one day because the CEO's morning coffee was a little too strong). - Organizational culture/information/know how is lost... You can't document relationships (relationships with suppliers, customers etc). Such moves, in my opinion do more harm than good to organizational culture. On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:

Sammy, The BOD at KeNIC and listers at large

We understand that the board has now restructured the governance of KeNIC in such a way that it now becomes a 'closed' stakeholder environment? Could you please kindly clarify this issue. Reading your posting of a few days and let me quote you here:-

"...the Strategic Plan Review that took place last month, the following stakeholders were selected based on the value they bring to the KENIC Board to enable KENIC meet its mandate of growing the .ke name space in Kenya." end quote.

When can ALL stakeholders have a copy of the Institutional Assessment report? Or is this only for the eyes of the board? or the current perceived stakeholders?

My concern here is that shouldn't the AGM have decided on who the new stakeholders are? Who does the Board of Directors report to in this case?

Correct me if I'm wrong but what the current status of affairs indicates or implies is that there is fundamental shift from the current stakeholder structure to a new one.

Good Corporate Governance tenets demand that before such fundamental changes are made as to how an AGM is conducted this should be decided by the AGM NOT by the Board of Directors. After all it is at the AGM that Board Members are elected...

We must at all costs ensure that the governance of KeNIC is above board and the way the current situation is it leaves to much speculation and rumor to spread. For the sake of this organisation you must be seen to be beyond reproach.

Having said that I do agree that these are tumultuous times at KeNIC and we must allow reason to take place. I urge everyone to take a step back and let the management and board of KeNIC steer the ship until the AGM which I am hoping will be open to ALL stakeholders and not just the ones that the board feels has a stake in KeNIC.

Ali Hussein

On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Musya Michael <michael.musya@gmail.com>wrote:

...

Already feeling the impact. MPESA transaction yet to reflect...3 hours now. After calling...please call again at 2.30p.m.

On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Michael Bullut <main@kipsang.com>wrote:

...

Great history lesson there for some of us... :-)

Sent on the run, Please excuse errors & ommissions! On Aug 21, 2012 10:17 AM, "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:

...

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Rebecca Wanjiku < rebeccawanjiku@yahoo.com> wrote:

...

Apparently Kenic has issued termination letters to all employees, what will the PS increase control over if the organization has no employees? Read more...

http://www.wanjiku.co.ke/2012/08/kenic-ceo-fires-first-salvo-at-govt-termina...

Tel. 254 720 318 925

wanjiku.co.ke

*From:* Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> *To:* rebeccawanjiku@yahoo.com *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Monday, August 20, 2012 12:34 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Ministry seeks more seats at KENIC

McTim,

On this one, you are wrong (for the first time) :)

Besides running primary and secondary nameservers for .KE .... Randy (via PSG) also handled all registrations for .KE (and maintained the root database for the cctld).

Best regards,

Brian

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On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 5:17 PM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Sammy Buruchara <buruchara@me.com>wrote:

Dear Listers,**** ** **

<snip>

At the dawn of Internet in Kenya, we all relied on Mr. Randy Bush in Oregon USA to register .ke domains.

I don't think Randy ever actually registered domains for .ke (or anyone).

IIRC, he offered (via PSG) free Secondary name services to many ccTLD that did not have the werewithal to run secondary services for themselves.

In this case, McTim, you never registered any .KE domain until KENIC came into being, otherwise you'd know Randy did.

I remember with Nostalgia those templates we used to send to Randy Bush in the days, and how one would anxiously await his response - yes, because it meant money then! A successful processing of the template was a big issue - you made a small mistake and it would be rejected.

-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.

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@Phares, I personally know of someone who was looking at getting in there in one capacity but stopped dead in their tracks as of this morning. your choice of the word toxic sums it all. On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:

Thank you Phares. Your thesis gives us food for thought

On 21/08/2012, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Whatever Sammy's original intentions were, I do believe firing all the employees was toxic not only for him but for the life of the organization.

It's never the staff that's at fault, typically the leadership. I'll give a few examples:

[1] Sun Tzu and Emperor Wu. For those who have read the story, the leadership of the troops to be led by Wu's concubines is all that changed. The troops remained the same.

[2] Kenya Airways - Rose to be one of the most profitable companies in EA with basically the same employees. Leadership changed...

[3] Safaricom - It was initially a department in Telkom Kenya. Leadership.

[4] For the overused example - Apple & Steve Jobs. The nearly bankrupt organization never laid off all it's employees, merely changed the structure.

[5] Uchumi - Purely a leadership issue, as was demonstrated very well by Jonathan Ciano.

I believe an approach which begins with getting rid of all the staff is not only myopic but also shows a fundamental inability to inspire/work with diverse people...

- Were any of the employees incompetent? - Were any of the employees too expensive (i.e. were they being paid more than they were generating?) **I highly doubt this is the case given the ratio of board members to employees* - Was there gross misconduct on the part of the employees?

If this is not the case then firing the employee effectively makes the organization 'toxic'. How?

- Talented individuals will avoid it because it's evidently and openly a caustic environment. - Only people who have no alternative will work there given that management has no consideration for tenure (why work for KENIC whilst I can work for an ISP? Pay may be less, visibility/career development etc may take a hit, but I know that I will not be out of a living one day because the CEO's morning coffee was a little too strong). - Organizational culture/information/know how is lost... You can't document relationships (relationships with suppliers, customers etc).

Such moves, in my opinion do more harm than good to organizational culture.

On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:

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Sammy, The BOD at KeNIC and listers at large

We understand that the board has now restructured the governance of KeNIC in such a way that it now becomes a 'closed' stakeholder environment? Could you please kindly clarify this issue. Reading your posting of a few days and let me quote you here:-

"...the Strategic Plan Review that took place last month, the following stakeholders were selected based on the value they bring to the KENIC Board to enable KENIC meet its mandate of growing the .ke name space in Kenya." end quote.

When can ALL stakeholders have a copy of the Institutional Assessment report? Or is this only for the eyes of the board? or the current perceived stakeholders?

My concern here is that shouldn't the AGM have decided on who the new stakeholders are? Who does the Board of Directors report to in this case?

Correct me if I'm wrong but what the current status of affairs indicates or implies is that there is fundamental shift from the current stakeholder structure to a new one.

Good Corporate Governance tenets demand that before such fundamental changes are made as to how an AGM is conducted this should be decided by the AGM NOT by the Board of Directors. After all it is at the AGM that Board Members are elected...

We must at all costs ensure that the governance of KeNIC is above board and the way the current situation is it leaves to much speculation and rumor to spread. For the sake of this organisation you must be seen to be beyond reproach.

Having said that I do agree that these are tumultuous times at KeNIC and we must allow reason to take place. I urge everyone to take a step back and let the management and board of KeNIC steer the ship until the AGM which I am hoping will be open to ALL stakeholders and not just the ones that the board feels has a stake in KeNIC.

Ali Hussein

On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Musya Michael <michael.musya@gmail.com>wrote:

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Already feeling the impact. MPESA transaction yet to reflect...3 hours now. After calling...please call again at 2.30p.m.

On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Michael Bullut <main@kipsang.com>wrote:

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Great history lesson there for some of us... :-)

Sent on the run, Please excuse errors & ommissions! On Aug 21, 2012 10:17 AM, "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:

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On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Rebecca Wanjiku < rebeccawanjiku@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Apparently Kenic has issued termination letters to all employees, > what > will the PS increase control over if the organization has no > employees? > Read more... > > > http://www.wanjiku.co.ke/2012/08/kenic-ceo-fires-first-salvo-at-govt-termina... > > Tel. 254 720 318 925 > > wanjiku.co.ke > > *From:* Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> > *To:* rebeccawanjiku@yahoo.com > *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> > *Sent:* Monday, August 20, 2012 12:34 PM > *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Ministry seeks more seats at KENIC > > McTim, > > On this one, you are wrong (for the first time) :) > > Besides running primary and secondary nameservers for .KE .... Randy > (via PSG) also handled all registrations for .KE (and maintained the > root > database for the cctld). > > Best regards, > > Brian > > [image: logo] > *Brian Munyao Longwe* > | Mobile: 254715964281 > http://mashilingi.blogspot.com > <http://www.facebook.com/brianmunyao> > Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/brianmunyao> > <http://www.twitter.com/blongwe> > Twitter<http://www.twitter.com/blongwe> > <http://ke.linkedin.com/pub/brian-munyao-longwe/0/32/254> > LinkedIn<http://ke.linkedin.com/pub/brian-munyao-longwe/0/32/254> > Contact me: [image: Skype] blongwe > Want a signature like mine? > <http://r1.wisestamp.com/r/landing?promo=16&dest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisestamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_16> > Click > here.<http://r1.wisestamp.com/r/landing?promo=16&dest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisestamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_16> > > > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 5:17 PM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Sammy Buruchara > <buruchara@me.com>wrote: > > Dear Listers,**** > ** ** > > > <snip> > > > > At the dawn of Internet in Kenya, we all relied on Mr. Randy Bush in > Oregon USA to register .ke domains. > > > > I don't think Randy ever actually registered domains for .ke (or > anyone). > > IIRC, he offered (via PSG) free Secondary name services to many ccTLD > that did not have the werewithal to run secondary services for > themselves. > > In this case, McTim, you never registered any .KE domain until KENIC came into being, otherwise you'd know Randy did.

I remember with Nostalgia those templates we used to send to Randy Bush in the days, and how one would anxiously await his response - yes, because it meant money then! A successful processing of the template was a big issue - you made a small mistake and it would be rejected.

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On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 5:34 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:

McTim,

On this one, you are wrong (for the first time) :)

shocking (not that I was wrong, but that he had the time to do this, while working full-time, helping with APRICOT, IETF, etc and running secondary for dozens of other ccTLDs! That is not nearly as shocking as KENIC firing all staff tho, there are good ppl there working hard for .ke! -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel

Thank you Michuki for the clarification. Regards Sammy -----Original Message----- From: Michuki Mwangi [mailto:michuki@swiftkenya.com] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 5:21 PM To: Sammy Buruchara Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: Re: [kictanet] Ministry seeks more seats at KENIC On 8/17/12 4:49 PM, Sammy Buruchara wrote: Sammy, a point of correction if i may.

At the dawn of Internet in Kenya, we all relied on Mr. Randy Bush in Oregon USA to register .ke domains. TESPOK and CCK at the time strange bedfellows came together and developed a plan to take over the management of .ke from Randy Bush.

Randy Bush was the Technical Point of Contact. The Admin Point of Contact was Dr. Shem Ochuodho. There was a history behind the arrangement. In the DNS world, the Tech POC is appointed by the Admin POC or the Sponsoring organization. KENIC was established by the stakeholders to enhance the .ke registry services. Regards, Michuki.

Dear Grace, Thank you for the clarifications. Alice Munyua was the Chair of KENIC Board Institutional Assessment Report was submitted. I am only quoting the report. I believe there is still time to submit the requested documents to the consultants in order to set the record straight. Kind Regards Sammy From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+buruchara=mac.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Grace Githaiga Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 8:37 PM To: buruchara@mac.com Cc: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] Ministry seeks more seats at KENIC Dear Sammy and All Just like Michuki and McTim, here is another point of clarification. The Kenya ICT Action network (KICTANet) was set up as a project of the Association for Progressive Communications (APC) as part of a broader initiative called Catalyzing Access to ICTs in Africa (CATIA). It was set up by TESPOK (Joseph Mucheru), APC (Alice Munyua as convener), KENET (Victo Kyalo), Summit Strategies (Muruiki Mureithi) and AfRISPA/KIXP (Brian Longwe) during a workshop held in Nairobi in 2004 (I shared the documents on this list sometime this year). It was set up as a "multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation" with the aim of catalyzing reforms in the ICT sector in support of the government's aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANet was invited to serve on the KeNIC board on that basis. KICTANet is FORUM and the fact that this debate on KENIC is taking place here is testimony that as KICTANet we are living our mandate. For more information please visit <http://www.kictanet.or.ke/> www.kictanet.or.ke. And now after this commercial break, I would like to hear KENIC's response on who really is a stakeholder (in reference to Dr. Ndemo's question, as well as Kivuva's). If I own a .ke (as a company or an individual) I am I not a stakeholder? Kind regards Grace Githaiga

Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 17:20:40 +0300 From: michuki@swiftkenya.com Subject: Re: [kictanet] Ministry seeks more seats at KENIC CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com

On 8/17/12 4:49 PM, Sammy Buruchara wrote:

Sammy, a point of correction if i may.

...

At the dawn of Internet in Kenya, we all relied on Mr. Randy Bush in Oregon USA to register .ke domains. TESPOK and CCK at the time strange bedfellows came together and developed a plan to take over the management of .ke from Randy Bush.

Randy Bush was the Technical Point of Contact. The Admin Point of Contact was Dr. Shem Ochuodho. There was a history behind the arrangement.

In the DNS world, the Tech POC is appointed by the Admin POC or the Sponsoring organization.

KENIC was established by the stakeholders to enhance the .ke registry services.

Regards,

Michuki.

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