Kenya IGF 2010, Discussions :Day 8 of 8 Summary

Dear Listers, Today we conclude 8 days of interesting discourse on Internet Governance issues in Kenya. As mentioned by some contributors in earlier posts, being a new area, there is a great need for capacity building and awareness to ensure that the country is able to reap the benefits of the new info-economy. We would like to invite listers who might not have had the chance to make their posts to do so under the respective subject lines in the next two days before compilation of the final report that will be presented during the face to face discussions scheduled for the end of this month. In a nutshell we explored the following areas: 1. Internet Governance rationale - What is internet governance and why internet governance at this point in time. 2. Infrastructure issues: Unified Licensing., Fibre Optic cable 3. Critical Internet Resources 4. Management of the dot KE cctld 5. IPv6 6. ecrimes, privacy, data security. Despite the limited time frame the discussion was exciting, i am sure the many that followed the debate silently would not their heads in agreement. Today and tomorrow will be dedicated to exploring other areas that might of interest in so far Internet Governance in Kenya is concerned one of them being cloud computing was which pointed out by Dr. Waudo Siganga. Thank you -- Barrack O. Otieno +41767892272 Skype: barrack.otieno

Dear Barrack, indeed it has been a 'knowledge construction', period, I take this opportunity to thank all who have made it a rich discussion. what I have been able to pick from the exchange: a) Infrastructure issues: Unified Licensing., Fibre Optic cable- Kenyans are wary about it- we are moving,but not moving yet! b) Critical Internet Resources, Management of the dot KE cctld- there is a LAW but only on paper. c) IPv6- there is no driving force. d) ecrimes, privacy, data security.- in most instances people always assume that it is the consumers that need the law to protect them, but I will say certainly NOT all the stakeholders in a given scenario, need protection. Maybe I will pose my layman question to our learned friends, the lawyers, 'what causes demand for a law to be put in place?' Kind Regards, On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:06 AM, Barrack Otieno <[email protected]>wrote:
Dear Listers,
Today we conclude 8 days of interesting discourse on Internet Governance issues in Kenya. As mentioned by some contributors in earlier posts, being a new area, there is a great need for capacity building and awareness to ensure that the country is able to reap the benefits of the new info-economy. We would like to invite listers who might not have had the chance to make their posts to do so under the respective subject lines in the next two days before compilation of the final report that will be presented during the face to face discussions scheduled for the end of this month. In a nutshell we explored the following areas:
1. Internet Governance rationale - What is internet governance and why internet governance at this point in time. 2. Infrastructure issues: Unified Licensing., Fibre Optic cable 3. Critical Internet Resources 4. Management of the dot KE cctld 5. IPv6 6. ecrimes, privacy, data security.
Despite the limited time frame the discussion was exciting, i am sure the many that followed the debate silently would not their heads in agreement. Today and tomorrow will be dedicated to exploring other areas that might of interest in so far Internet Governance in Kenya is concerned one of them being cloud computing was which pointed out by Dr. Waudo Siganga.
Thank you -- Barrack O. Otieno +41767892272 Skype: barrack.otieno
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Dear Barrack and Judy, I'll give my final submissions on the discussions tomorrow. I had taken a 'forced abscence of leave!' Hoping that will not be too late to make my submissions! Thank you. On 14/07/2010, Judy Okite <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Barrack,
indeed it has been a 'knowledge construction', period, I take this opportunity to thank all who have made it a rich discussion.
what I have been able to pick from the exchange:
a) Infrastructure issues: Unified Licensing., Fibre Optic cable- Kenyans are wary about it- we are moving,but not moving yet!
b) Critical Internet Resources, Management of the dot KE cctld- there is a LAW but only on paper.
c) IPv6- there is no driving force.
d) ecrimes, privacy, data security.- in most instances people always assume that it is the consumers that need the law to protect them, but I will say certainly NOT all the stakeholders in a given scenario, need protection.
Maybe I will pose my layman question to our learned friends, the lawyers, 'what causes demand for a law to be put in place?'
Kind Regards,
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:06 AM, Barrack Otieno <[email protected]>wrote:
Dear Listers,
Today we conclude 8 days of interesting discourse on Internet Governance issues in Kenya. As mentioned by some contributors in earlier posts, being a new area, there is a great need for capacity building and awareness to ensure that the country is able to reap the benefits of the new info-economy. We would like to invite listers who might not have had the chance to make their posts to do so under the respective subject lines in the next two days before compilation of the final report that will be presented during the face to face discussions scheduled for the end of this month. In a nutshell we explored the following areas:
1. Internet Governance rationale - What is internet governance and why internet governance at this point in time. 2. Infrastructure issues: Unified Licensing., Fibre Optic cable 3. Critical Internet Resources 4. Management of the dot KE cctld 5. IPv6 6. ecrimes, privacy, data security.
Despite the limited time frame the discussion was exciting, i am sure the many that followed the debate silently would not their heads in agreement. Today and tomorrow will be dedicated to exploring other areas that might of interest in so far Internet Governance in Kenya is concerned one of them being cloud computing was which pointed out by Dr. Waudo Siganga.
Thank you -- Barrack O. Otieno +41767892272 Skype: barrack.otieno
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Most welcome Solomon Kind Regards On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Solomon Mburu Kamau <[email protected]>wrote:
Dear Barrack and Judy,
I'll give my final submissions on the discussions tomorrow.
I had taken a 'forced abscence of leave!'
Hoping that will not be too late to make my submissions!
Thank you.
Dear Barrack,
indeed it has been a 'knowledge construction', period, I take this opportunity to thank all who have made it a rich discussion.
what I have been able to pick from the exchange:
a) Infrastructure issues: Unified Licensing., Fibre Optic cable- Kenyans are wary about it- we are moving,but not moving yet!
b) Critical Internet Resources, Management of the dot KE cctld- there is a LAW but only on paper.
c) IPv6- there is no driving force.
d) ecrimes, privacy, data security.- in most instances people always assume that it is the consumers that need the law to protect them, but I will say certainly NOT all the stakeholders in a given scenario, need protection.
Maybe I will pose my layman question to our learned friends, the lawyers, 'what causes demand for a law to be put in place?'
Kind Regards,
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:06 AM, Barrack Otieno <[email protected]>wrote:
Dear Listers,
Today we conclude 8 days of interesting discourse on Internet Governance issues in Kenya. As mentioned by some contributors in earlier posts, being a new area, there is a great need for capacity building and awareness to ensure that the country is able to reap the benefits of the new info-economy. We would like to invite listers who might not have had the chance to make their posts to do so under the respective subject lines in the next two days before compilation of the final report that will be presented during the face to face discussions scheduled for the end of this month. In a nutshell we explored the following areas:
1. Internet Governance rationale - What is internet governance and why internet governance at this point in time. 2. Infrastructure issues: Unified Licensing., Fibre Optic cable 3. Critical Internet Resources 4. Management of the dot KE cctld 5. IPv6 6. ecrimes, privacy, data security.
Despite the limited time frame the discussion was exciting, i am sure
On 14/07/2010, Judy Okite <[email protected]> wrote: the
many that followed the debate silently would not their heads in agreement. Today and tomorrow will be dedicated to exploring other areas that might of interest in so far Internet Governance in Kenya is concerned one of them being cloud computing was which pointed out by Dr. Waudo Siganga.
Thank you -- Barrack O. Otieno +41767892272 Skype: barrack.otieno
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-- Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau
***************************************************** Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity!
http://smiley2.wordpress.com http://mburu.sikika.co.ke
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-- Barrack O. Otieno +41767892272 Skype: barrack.otieno

Dear Listers, On 14/07/2010, Barrack Otieno <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Listers,
Today we conclude 8 days of interesting discourse on Internet Governance issues in Kenya. As mentioned by some contributors in earlier posts, being a new area, there is a great need for capacity building and awareness to ensure that the country is able to reap the benefits of the new info-economy. We would like to invite listers who might not have had the chance to make their posts to do so under the respective subject lines in the next two days before compilation of the final report that will be presented during the face to face discussions scheduled for the end of this month. In a nutshell we explored the following areas:
1. Internet Governance rationale - What is internet governance and why internet governance at this point in time. 2. Infrastructure issues: Unified Licensing., Fibre Optic cable 3. Critical Internet Resources 4. Management of the dot KE cctld 5. IPv6 6. ecrimes, privacy, data security.
Despite the limited time frame the discussion was exciting, i am sure the many that followed the debate silently would not their heads in agreement. Today and tomorrow will be dedicated to exploring other areas that might of interest in so far Internet Governance in Kenya is concerned one of them being cloud computing was which pointed out by Dr. Waudo Siganga.
Thank you -- Barrack O. Otieno +41767892272 Skype: barrack.otieno
The internet has become the most preferred mode of communication, education, information and entertainment. It is probably the most consulted tool probably, after the Holy Books, but again, there are some things which need to make it more secure, preferable and interactive. Capacity Building is the core aspect of any organization; it sets pace on how much (technical and financial) need to be invested in achieving certain goals, objectives and mission that are already in place. With this in mind, I firmly believe that for Internet Governance to have positive and greater effects to the general consumer, there is an urgent need to make sure that the understanding of IG become a part and parcel of national goals and vision. At least, in the Kenya's Vision 2030, this element is well captured through the acceleration of Kenya towards a middle-level income nation by 2030. There is also a need to determine the level in which as a nation we want to be part of the global village - is it completely or partially? If former, what are the parameters in place used to make this a reality? How, for instance, can we talk about being part of the global village, while in real sense not everybody has access to the internet, or even a computer? In addition, the use of internet in the public office remains just a communication tool(browsing, reading and responding to emails, 'googling' etc) yet it goes beyond this scope (research, documentation etc) thus making it limited in practice than in action. When it comes to migration from IPV4 to IPV6, what are the mechanisms in place ( at the regional level - the EAC) have been put to smoothly migrate consumers without any hindrance or much-hyped expectations? (Before the fibre cable optics were switched on, we were told that the cost of the internet would drastically reduce, but in reality....) How can a common person, like myself, understand these terminologies? How would it be easier to know what equipment are already IPV6 compliant? This takes me back to the Y2K bug. Much was said about computers crashing, economies crumbling and even computers would not be functioning well after 31st December 1999. I got anti-Y2K bug CD from one of our partners from the US, giving us information of how to upgrade the systems to be Y2K compliant and the risks we faced should 1st January 2000 set in. That was real scary. But years later, nothing of that sort took place save for the recent global economic meltdown. I hope such issues will be addressed during the forthcoming K-IGF and the E-AIGF later in August, and probably IGF in Lithuania. Thanks -- Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau ***************************************************** Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill! AND It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! http://smiley2.wordpress.com http://mburu.sikika.co.ke
participants (3)
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Barrack Otieno
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Judy Okite
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Solomon Mburu Kamau