Thanks for the legal angle, and it was actually 2 shillings worth as you might have notice the Kenya Shilling is getting stronger. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 KEnya Tel: +254722511225 ----- Original Message ---- From: John Walubengo <jwalu@yahoo.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Monday, 26 November, 2007 12:14:11 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New FrontierinTransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007 my quick two cents. 1. On high-costs: 'High-cost' is actually NOT relative- having been defined by UN/ITU as the cost of service as a % of the Gross National Income per Capita. (ITU Digital Access Indices ( ITU News, 2003). In simpler times, are the citizens continuously faced with the 'difficult' choice between communicating and buying their next meal? i.e if the cost of communication results in their missing their next meal then the service is quite expensive. 2. On Commercial Agreements between Operators: I believe the operators have the 1st privilege to reach an agreement. However, the Regulator reserves the right to interven in the event that the agreement is not being reached soon enought. walu. --- Alex Gakuru <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:

all networks interconnection are subject to CCK thus it has everything to do with them in fulfilling their legal mandate to protect consumers especially where outcry are so loud it break many high glass offices blocks. Further, TKL has been on the press stating otherwise. "In its letter to Mr John Waweru, the Communications Commission of Kenya director general, Telkom Kenya is accusing Safaricom of practising anti-competitive behaviour in the market —especially in the Short Messages Services (SMS) segment of the business."

http://www.bdafrica.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3703&Itemid=5810

High costs are relative so allow me to pass that questions

On Nov 26, 2007 8:23 AM, Michael Joseph <MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke> wrote:

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It has got nothing to do with the CCK but is a commercial issue with TKL Kenya. Both parties are well aware of what has to be done and it is a matter of getting this concluded. Both mobile operators have the same issue.

I do not know what high costs you are referring to.

Michael

CEO Safaricom Limited

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Hope is not a bad thing to have but just its just a wish. Until you finally "finalise" the agreement completely then let high costs bite deeper and deeper into our pockets.

If we had a CCK that protected consumers this would have happened 2 months ago.

Alex

On Nov 26, 2007 8:06 AM, Michael Joseph <MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke> wrote:

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There is no blocking as such. Simply stated the

agreements to open up the

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SMS interconnectivity have not been completed. We hope that this will be done soon.

Regards,

Michael

CEO

Safaricom Limited

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Behalf Of robert yawe Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:50 AM To: Michael Joseph

Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier inTransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007

Hi,

I am unable to send an SMS from my safaricom line to CDMA numbers. Who is responsible for making sure that we are not blocked from sending messages across networks.

Regards

Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 KEnya

Tel: +254722511225

----- Original Message ---- From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: bitange@jambo.co.ke; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, 23 November, 2007 11:20:03 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier in TransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007

Dear Yawe, Welcome to KICTAnet. Just wanted to know how you got to know that Ministry of Information, CCK and ICT Board did not act on the Safaricom/TKL sms issue? Do you know the mandate of

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friend, in the past one year did you not come across

On these "bodies"? My the mention of the

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ICT Bill? I really want to be of help to you but first I want to understand where you are coming from.

Regards

Bitange Ndemo.

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Hi All,

I am new to this mailing list and would like to start by saying something about myself.

I am an Information Technology specialist with over 15 years experience which means I know how to use DOS, UNIX and other OS's that exist only on 5.25" floppy disks. My area of specialisation is in design & implementation of local and wide area networks.

On the issue of mGovernment I do agree that this is the next frontier but it is shocking, as usual, that we are not embracing the technology or even working to develop the necessary legislation to make it flourish. AS many web site designers about WAP and they are lost, we are designing heavy sites that have no intelligence to identify the type of device accessing

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