E-Citizen portal gazetted as government's official digital payment platform
All payments for government services shall be made through the E-citizen portal. This comes as Cabinet Secretary for Treasury Njuguna Ndung’u gazettes the portal to be the official government digital payment platform. https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-12-31-e-citizen-portal-gazetted-as-gove...
Were the various legal disputes resolved? On Sat, 31 Dec 2022, 10:38 Victor Kapiyo via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
All payments for government services shall be made through the E-citizen portal.
This comes as Cabinet Secretary for Treasury Njuguna Ndung’u gazettes the portal to be the official government digital payment platform.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-12-31-e-citizen-portal-gazetted-as-gove...
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On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 10:50 AM Alex Watila via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Were the various legal disputes resolved?
I was about to ask the same question. The gazettement seems like one of the ways devised to influence the outcome of the legal dispute, otherwise why now? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-)
The mystery continues. I haven't traced the gazette notice but the changes might be to address some of the concerns raised in the suit. On Sat, 31 Dec 2022, 10:59 Odhiambo Washington via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 10:50 AM Alex Watila via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Were the various legal disputes resolved?
I was about to ask the same question. The gazettement seems like one of the ways devised to influence the outcome of the legal dispute, otherwise why now?
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What were the disputes? JG On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 11:11 AM Alex Watila via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Were the various legal disputes resolved?
On Sat, 31 Dec 2022, 10:38 Victor Kapiyo via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
All payments for government services shall be made through the E-citizen portal.
This comes as Cabinet Secretary for Treasury Njuguna Ndung’u gazettes the portal to be the official government digital payment platform.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-12-31-e-citizen-portal-gazetted-as-gove...
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Ownership, revenue sharing, missing legal instruments etc On a user experience (ux) i applied for certificate of good conduct went to cid for fingerprinting and they told me they did not recognize the appointment given to me by the platform. Rescheduled and used kibera huduma center and was sorted. On the passport application the print and download functionalities produce two different formats one of which is not accepted at nyayo house. Lot's of work still needed for true egovernment services On Sat, 31 Dec 2022, 13:11 James Mbugua, <jgmbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
What were the disputes?
JG
On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 11:11 AM Alex Watila via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Were the various legal disputes resolved?
On Sat, 31 Dec 2022, 10:38 Victor Kapiyo via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
All payments for government services shall be made through the E-citizen portal.
This comes as Cabinet Secretary for Treasury Njuguna Ndung’u gazettes the portal to be the official government digital payment platform.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-12-31-e-citizen-portal-gazetted-as-gove...
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Thanks Alex. I would imagine by this gazette notice by Treasury, all government agencies are put on legal notice that e-Citizen is the official payment platform for government services and it is them who will need to onboard? JG On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 1:41 PM Alex Watila <awatila@gmail.com> wrote:
Ownership, revenue sharing, missing legal instruments etc
On a user experience (ux)
i applied for certificate of good conduct went to cid for fingerprinting and they told me they did not recognize the appointment given to me by the platform. Rescheduled and used kibera huduma center and was sorted.
On the passport application the print and download functionalities produce two different formats one of which is not accepted at nyayo house.
Lot's of work still needed for true egovernment services
On Sat, 31 Dec 2022, 13:11 James Mbugua, <jgmbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
What were the disputes?
JG
On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 11:11 AM Alex Watila via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Were the various legal disputes resolved?
On Sat, 31 Dec 2022, 10:38 Victor Kapiyo via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
All payments for government services shall be made through the E-citizen portal.
This comes as Cabinet Secretary for Treasury Njuguna Ndung’u gazettes the portal to be the official government digital payment platform.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-12-31-e-citizen-portal-gazetted-as-gove...
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Very true Alex, there is still a lot to be done when it comes to eCitizen. The issue you have mentioned aside, I believe if the Government is going to be considering activating eCitizen and the only portal there are 2 glaring issues (and they are very glaring, it's not a walk in the park - these issues will definitely need to be addressed). 1. Firstly the eCitizen "My Profile" page has not been working and has not been resolved for years on end. What will happen if someone updates their details? Such as contact details? At the moment you can't do that on eCitizen. 2. Secondly, for a service as critical as eCitizen there needs to be a 2 factor authentication mechanism for added user security. When a choice of 2 factor authentication is also considered it should be able to work on multiple levels: 1. Using phone number Auth (and it should have provision to work with numbers outside the country for diaspora based Kenyans). 2. Using email auth. 3. Using 3rd party 2FA services. Some countries develop their own 2FA auth applications that can be deployed on any smartphone and activated. I think also credible cyber security will need to do assessment and recommendations. On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 2:47 PM Alex Watila via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Ownership, revenue sharing, missing legal instruments etc
On a user experience (ux)
i applied for certificate of good conduct went to cid for fingerprinting and they told me they did not recognize the appointment given to me by the platform. Rescheduled and used kibera huduma center and was sorted.
On the passport application the print and download functionalities produce two different formats one of which is not accepted at nyayo house.
Lot's of work still needed for true egovernment services
On Sat, 31 Dec 2022, 13:11 James Mbugua, <jgmbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
What were the disputes?
JG
On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 11:11 AM Alex Watila via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Were the various legal disputes resolved?
On Sat, 31 Dec 2022, 10:38 Victor Kapiyo via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
All payments for government services shall be made through the E-citizen portal.
This comes as Cabinet Secretary for Treasury Njuguna Ndung’u gazettes the portal to be the official government digital payment platform.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-12-31-e-citizen-portal-gazetted-as-gove...
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-- *Ahmed Maawy*
Ahmed Very important points you raise. It is time that government considers G2C (Government to Citizen) and C2G (Citizen to Government) as critical points of engagement with the citizenry. This is not just about payments to Government. The fact that the emphasis is on 'Payment Platform' completely misses the point. eCitizen is about services to the people. The payment part is a lagging indicator of services rendered. The sooner we all understand that the better for this country. Regards *Ali Hussein* Fintech | Digital Transformation Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim LinkedIn: Ali's Profile <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 2:15 PM Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Very true Alex, there is still a lot to be done when it comes to eCitizen.
The issue you have mentioned aside, I believe if the Government is going to be considering activating eCitizen and the only portal there are 2 glaring issues (and they are very glaring, it's not a walk in the park - these issues will definitely need to be addressed).
1. Firstly the eCitizen "My Profile" page has not been working and has not been resolved for years on end. What will happen if someone updates their details? Such as contact details? At the moment you can't do that on eCitizen. 2. Secondly, for a service as critical as eCitizen there needs to be a 2 factor authentication mechanism for added user security. When a choice of 2 factor authentication is also considered it should be able to work on multiple levels: 1. Using phone number Auth (and it should have provision to work with numbers outside the country for diaspora based Kenyans). 2. Using email auth. 3. Using 3rd party 2FA services. Some countries develop their own 2FA auth applications that can be deployed on any smartphone and activated.
I think also credible cyber security will need to do assessment and recommendations.
On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 2:47 PM Alex Watila via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Ownership, revenue sharing, missing legal instruments etc
On a user experience (ux)
i applied for certificate of good conduct went to cid for fingerprinting and they told me they did not recognize the appointment given to me by the platform. Rescheduled and used kibera huduma center and was sorted.
On the passport application the print and download functionalities produce two different formats one of which is not accepted at nyayo house.
Lot's of work still needed for true egovernment services
On Sat, 31 Dec 2022, 13:11 James Mbugua, <jgmbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
What were the disputes?
JG
On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 11:11 AM Alex Watila via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Were the various legal disputes resolved?
On Sat, 31 Dec 2022, 10:38 Victor Kapiyo via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
All payments for government services shall be made through the E-citizen portal.
This comes as Cabinet Secretary for Treasury Njuguna Ndung’u gazettes the portal to be the official government digital payment platform.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-12-31-e-citizen-portal-gazetted-as-gove...
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Precisely Ali. Agreed that we shouldn't just view it as a payment platform and have the perspective from one view point, but think about it holistically. The Payment Gateway discussion does tend to overshadow a lot of the aspects behind the concrete action items that we may need to focus on. I believe this may rather be an opportunity for the Government to think about how to improve their online experience. Not only just make it flawless but also make it make sense. And in the process make it secure - but also convenient. The issues we have mentioned aside, eCitizen is not just a platform where folks go to jaza the forms. The experience end to end should be well thought out. If we are to shorten it into few pointers: 1. Security (end to end. User security, Secure payment integration - for instance how secure is card payments going to be?, ...) 2. Convenience (registration and general use) 3. Reach (accommodate domestic and diaspora needs) 4. Reliable (always available, can adapt to changing needs - for instance, when you change phone numbers or email addresses, or different circumstances, this should be factored. One of the issues here I have also noticed is there is a lacking notification mechanism whenever your attention is needed within the various stages of service provision within eCitizen) It may help if a user needs assessment is thoroughly done so that all user needs are accommodated prior to full focus on eCitizen. For instance, a lacking area when we tend to focus on payments is we increasingly see MPesa as a major emphasis at all times. This potentially locks out diaspora players in the process at times. It's a long discussion but it's one worth having. Digitization will solve a lot of problems - if done well. On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 11:28 AM Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Ahmed
Very important points you raise. It is time that government considers G2C (Government to Citizen) and C2G (Citizen to Government) as critical points of engagement with the citizenry. This is not just about payments to Government. The fact that the emphasis is on 'Payment Platform' completely misses the point.
eCitizen is about services to the people. The payment part is a lagging indicator of services rendered. The sooner we all understand that the better for this country.
Regards
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Fintech | Digital Transformation
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On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 2:15 PM Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Very true Alex, there is still a lot to be done when it comes to eCitizen.
The issue you have mentioned aside, I believe if the Government is going to be considering activating eCitizen and the only portal there are 2 glaring issues (and they are very glaring, it's not a walk in the park - these issues will definitely need to be addressed).
1. Firstly the eCitizen "My Profile" page has not been working and has not been resolved for years on end. What will happen if someone updates their details? Such as contact details? At the moment you can't do that on eCitizen. 2. Secondly, for a service as critical as eCitizen there needs to be a 2 factor authentication mechanism for added user security. When a choice of 2 factor authentication is also considered it should be able to work on multiple levels: 1. Using phone number Auth (and it should have provision to work with numbers outside the country for diaspora based Kenyans). 2. Using email auth. 3. Using 3rd party 2FA services. Some countries develop their own 2FA auth applications that can be deployed on any smartphone and activated.
I think also credible cyber security will need to do assessment and recommendations.
On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 2:47 PM Alex Watila via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Ownership, revenue sharing, missing legal instruments etc
On a user experience (ux)
i applied for certificate of good conduct went to cid for fingerprinting and they told me they did not recognize the appointment given to me by the platform. Rescheduled and used kibera huduma center and was sorted.
On the passport application the print and download functionalities produce two different formats one of which is not accepted at nyayo house.
Lot's of work still needed for true egovernment services
On Sat, 31 Dec 2022, 13:11 James Mbugua, <jgmbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
What were the disputes?
JG
On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 11:11 AM Alex Watila via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Were the various legal disputes resolved?
On Sat, 31 Dec 2022, 10:38 Victor Kapiyo via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
All payments for government services shall be made through the E-citizen portal.
This comes as Cabinet Secretary for Treasury Njuguna Ndung’u gazettes the portal to be the official government digital payment platform.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-12-31-e-citizen-portal-gazetted-as-gove...
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Hi Colleagues, From the discussion, two issue come to the fore from my perspective: 1. Public Participation :- To what extent has and are we engaging the end users or public on this? 2. Governance: what governance model do this systems align with, (Good old COBIT or ITIL) The issues can easily be resolved when stakeholder engagement is at the fore, boardroom conversations will only result in more litigation which is not good for anyone. Regards On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 10:53 AM Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Precisely Ali. Agreed that we shouldn't just view it as a payment platform and have the perspective from one view point, but think about it holistically. The Payment Gateway discussion does tend to overshadow a lot of the aspects behind the concrete action items that we may need to focus on.
I believe this may rather be an opportunity for the Government to think about how to improve their online experience. Not only just make it flawless but also make it make sense. And in the process make it secure - but also convenient. The issues we have mentioned aside, eCitizen is not just a platform where folks go to jaza the forms. The experience end to end should be well thought out.
If we are to shorten it into few pointers:
1. Security (end to end. User security, Secure payment integration - for instance how secure is card payments going to be?, ...) 2. Convenience (registration and general use) 3. Reach (accommodate domestic and diaspora needs) 4. Reliable (always available, can adapt to changing needs - for instance, when you change phone numbers or email addresses, or different circumstances, this should be factored. One of the issues here I have also noticed is there is a lacking notification mechanism whenever your attention is needed within the various stages of service provision within eCitizen)
It may help if a user needs assessment is thoroughly done so that all user needs are accommodated prior to full focus on eCitizen. For instance, a lacking area when we tend to focus on payments is we increasingly see MPesa as a major emphasis at all times. This potentially locks out diaspora players in the process at times.
It's a long discussion but it's one worth having. Digitization will solve a lot of problems - if done well.
On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 11:28 AM Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Ahmed
Very important points you raise. It is time that government considers G2C (Government to Citizen) and C2G (Citizen to Government) as critical points of engagement with the citizenry. This is not just about payments to Government. The fact that the emphasis is on 'Payment Platform' completely misses the point.
eCitizen is about services to the people. The payment part is a lagging indicator of services rendered. The sooner we all understand that the better for this country.
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
Fintech | Digital Transformation
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Twitter: @AliHKassim
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On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 2:15 PM Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Very true Alex, there is still a lot to be done when it comes to eCitizen.
The issue you have mentioned aside, I believe if the Government is going to be considering activating eCitizen and the only portal there are 2 glaring issues (and they are very glaring, it's not a walk in the park - these issues will definitely need to be addressed).
1. Firstly the eCitizen "My Profile" page has not been working and has not been resolved for years on end. What will happen if someone updates their details? Such as contact details? At the moment you can't do that on eCitizen. 2. Secondly, for a service as critical as eCitizen there needs to be a 2 factor authentication mechanism for added user security. When a choice of 2 factor authentication is also considered it should be able to work on multiple levels: 1. Using phone number Auth (and it should have provision to work with numbers outside the country for diaspora based Kenyans). 2. Using email auth. 3. Using 3rd party 2FA services. Some countries develop their own 2FA auth applications that can be deployed on any smartphone and activated.
I think also credible cyber security will need to do assessment and recommendations.
On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 2:47 PM Alex Watila via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Ownership, revenue sharing, missing legal instruments etc
On a user experience (ux)
i applied for certificate of good conduct went to cid for fingerprinting and they told me they did not recognize the appointment given to me by the platform. Rescheduled and used kibera huduma center and was sorted.
On the passport application the print and download functionalities produce two different formats one of which is not accepted at nyayo house.
Lot's of work still needed for true egovernment services
On Sat, 31 Dec 2022, 13:11 James Mbugua, <jgmbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
What were the disputes?
JG
On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 11:11 AM Alex Watila via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Were the various legal disputes resolved?
On Sat, 31 Dec 2022, 10:38 Victor Kapiyo via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 1:11 PM James Mbugua via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
What were the disputes?
https://nation.africa/kenya/news/e-citizen-scandal-webmasters-the-dci-probe-... -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-)
This country just when you think you've heard it all, you get shocked. The convenience fee of Sh50 seems to be everywhere coz I've noticed it when registering my clients with the Office of the Data Protection Commissioner. There is a 50 bob that appears upon receipt generation. JG On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 3:20 PM Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 1:11 PM James Mbugua via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
What were the disputes?
https://nation.africa/kenya/news/e-citizen-scandal-webmasters-the-dci-probe-...
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-)
Thanks Washington for sharing this article. I somehow missed it. Seems too many issues are yet to be resolved. For example, there is lack of clarity on the ‘convinience fee’ and its beneficiaries. Could this latest development by the CS Njuguna be in in alignment with the President’s pronouncement of all government services being available online in the next six months? This caught my attention: “While Mr Ayugi and his firm were paid Sh70 million by the World Bank after taking the portal live, the government may have blundered in allowing Webmasters to upgrade and add thousands of government services to the portal without proper guiding principles on the project. Last week, President William Ruto <https://nation.africa/kenya/people/william-ruto-3809570> promised that in the next six months, all 5,000 government services will be accessible online, which means eCitizen will likely be a key player in the migration.” On Saturday, December 31, 2022, Odhiambo Washington via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 1:11 PM James Mbugua via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
What were the disputes?
https://nation.africa/kenya/news/e-citizen-scandal- webmasters-the-dci-probe-that-never-was-and-what-omtatah- wants-in-court-4062006
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Perhaps someone has incorporated Kenya Kwanza Limited in Mulot to tender for the new 5,000+ services and collect some additional convenience fees from unsuspecting Kenyans. 🤷 🏃♂️🏃♂️🏃♂️ On Mon, 2 Jan 2023, 12:30 Grace Githaiga via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Thanks Washington for sharing this article. I somehow missed it. Seems too many issues are yet to be resolved. For example, there is lack of clarity on the ‘convinience fee’ and its beneficiaries.
Could this latest development by the CS Njuguna be in in alignment with the President’s pronouncement of all government services being available online in the next six months?
This caught my attention:
“While Mr Ayugi and his firm were paid Sh70 million by the World Bank after taking the portal live, the government may have blundered in allowing Webmasters to upgrade and add thousands of government services to the portal without proper guiding principles on the project.
Last week, President William Ruto <https://nation.africa/kenya/people/william-ruto-3809570> promised that in the next six months, all 5,000 government services will be accessible online, which means eCitizen will likely be a key player in the migration.”
On Saturday, December 31, 2022, Odhiambo Washington via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 1:11 PM James Mbugua via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
What were the disputes?
https://nation.africa/kenya/news/e-citizen-scandal-webmasters-the-dci-probe-...
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-)
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On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 5:31 PM Victor Kapiyo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Perhaps someone has incorporated Kenya Kwanza Limited in Mulot to tender for the new 5,000+ services and collect some additional convenience fees from unsuspecting Kenyans. 🤷
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I hope they'll put in place measures to ensure that Citizen doesn't have mood-swings like that NTSA's TIMSVIRL or the KRA portal. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-)
A positive move..... On Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 10:29 AM Victor Kapiyo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
All payments for government services shall be made through the E-citizen portal.
This comes as Cabinet Secretary for Treasury Njuguna Ndung’u gazettes the portal to be the official government digital payment platform.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-12-31-e-citizen-portal-gazetted-as-gove...
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Cannot find this notice either at: http://kenyalaw.org/kenya_gazette/gazette/month/12/2022/ Hopefully, if this was not a roadside announcement, the full notice will clarify "official government digital payment platform". Direct payments on e-citizen are handled by a third party payments provider. In addition to the third party payments processor currently being used in e-citizen, there are a number of companies and banks that provide payment options such as mobile payments, credit cards, direct deposit etc. Will e-citizen issue payment slips and check against deposits? Will county governments be forced to use e-citizen thereby preventing development of other infrastructures and broadening the pool of local people with expertise and experience that can provide such services? What happens if there is a cyber attack on e-citizen? Will all electronic government services be shut down? As noted by Alex Watila, e-citizen has serious shortcomings. Preventing creation of spaces for development of alternatives is short sighted. e-citizen is of course helpful for verifying persons and possibly also companies in Kenya. While it can be used as an authentication service, other government functions should be handled as much as possible by the relevant government departments on separate infrastructure with information communicated on a need to know basis after appropriate authorization (which can be electronic). The tendency towards centralization and "Big Brother knows everything" is quite alarming and a threat to national sovereignty. A design of e-citizen that enables others to extend upon it accessing information they need seems more useful. In particular one that allows for protection of data, citizen privacy and also allows for information correction. It would be good for ODPC to do an annual audit of e-citizen, and release the resulting report publicly. On 1/1/23 20:53, Johnsey Kivoto via KICTANet wrote:
A positive move.....
On Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 10:29 AM Victor Kapiyo via KICTANet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
All payments for government services shall be made through the E-citizen portal.
This comes as Cabinet Secretary for Treasury Njuguna Ndung’u gazettes the portal to be the official government digital payment platform.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-12-31-e-citizen-portal-gazetted-as-gove... <https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-12-31-e-citizen-portal-gazetted-as-governments-official-digital-payment-platform/>
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Ahmed Mohamed Maawy -
Alex Watila -
Ali Hussein -
Barrack Otieno -
Benson Muite -
Grace Githaiga -
James Mbugua -
Johnsey Kivoto -
Odhiambo Washington -
Victor Kapiyo