Distinguished listers, I have read through the comments and still feel it is not yet time to celebrate, what we have simply done in the year 2009 is to build buses (Policies, Infrastructure , Strategies) however Kenyans are still walking on foot and hurting their toes as a result since they havent seen the difference this buses will make in their lives. Many gains have been made but they still don't resonate with the common man for instance *why are accidents still maiming Kenyans whereas we can use ICT's to curb them significantly through* CCTV's and other technologies (refer to Kwa Zulu Natal SA), *why is the corruption index still high whereas we can use ICT's to significantly reduce* *corruption*, *why is access to treatment a challenge whereas telemedicine is a reality,* *why is education expensive whereas e-learning is a reality* we continue to witness Petty fights among stakeholders whereas there are *REAL* issues that must be addressed we need to shun this culture and cooperate if we are to achieve more, if ICT cannot contribute to Socio-economic liberation, *then it is not worth it,* for those who were hitting hard continue with the same spirit mediocrity should not be tolerated, for the Peacemakers, be blessed in the year 2010 and continue with that spirit. -- Barrack O. Otieno Administrative Manager Afriregister Ltd (Ke) P.o.Box 21682 Nairobi 00100 Tel: +254721325277 +254733206359 +254202498789 Riara Road, Bamboo Lane www.afriregister.com www.afriregister.co.ke ICANN accredited registrar. Skype: barrack.otieno
Dear Barrack, You have a nice presidential name. You should not be confused with all the questions you pose. Yes we shall continue to have accidents until we have a mass transportation system. I have argued before that the role of Government is facilitate. I need to add one more function: regulate. There is need to facilitate proper mass transportation system in country and then have a strong regulator. When I was young in late 70s, OTC then a Mass Transport system along with the Kenya Bus had a log in system that they could not be in Nakuru for example if they had not been scheduled to be there. Things worked then even Malaysians came to learn from us. With GPS and other ICT solutions, we should manage to safe our peoples's lifes. Now in the midist of greed we need serious reforms and selflessness. Reviving the rail system should be priority number one but transport companies keep on sabotaging the rail system for their own selfish ends. Yes we have told our transport officials to reform the sector. Ndemo
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I have read through the comments and still feel it is not yet time to celebrate, what we have simply done in the year 2009 is to build buses (Policies, Infrastructure , Strategies) however Kenyans are still walking on foot and hurting their toes as a result since they havent seen the difference this buses will make in their lives. Many gains have been made but they still don't resonate with the common man for instance *why are accidents still maiming Kenyans whereas we can use ICT's to curb them significantly through* CCTV's and other technologies (refer to Kwa Zulu Natal SA), *why is the corruption index still high whereas we can use ICT's to significantly reduce* *corruption*, *why is access to treatment a challenge whereas telemedicine is a reality,* *why is education expensive whereas e-learning is a reality* we continue to witness Petty fights among stakeholders whereas there are *REAL* issues that must be addressed we need to shun this culture and cooperate if we are to achieve more, if ICT cannot contribute to Socio-economic liberation, *then it is not worth it,* for those who were hitting hard continue with the same spirit mediocrity should not be tolerated, for the Peacemakers, be blessed in the year 2010 and continue with that spirit. -- Barrack O. Otieno Administrative Manager Afriregister Ltd (Ke) P.o.Box 21682 Nairobi 00100 Tel: +254721325277 +254733206359 +254202498789 Riara Road, Bamboo Lane www.afriregister.com www.afriregister.co.ke ICANN accredited registrar. Skype: barrack.otieno
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Bwana Ndemo, I agree with you 1000% about the regulate part. This Christmas I travelled to Kieni using public means. Among my observations 1. The speed governor ship appears to have sailed. That Nissan I travelled with hit speeds of up to 150km/h 2. Police are not interested in regulating anything other than their cash at hand position. There were exactly twelve police checks between Nairobi and Nyeri. The vehicle was stopped at each. At at least 3 of them I saw money change hands between driver and the officers 3. From Nyeri town to Kieni the Nissan that ostensibly should legally sit 11 sat TWENTY TWO people. We passed through about 3 checks with uninterested policemen who could clearly see that it was overloaded. If the people charged to clamp down on such renege on their duties, what hope is there? On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:04 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Dear Barrack, You have a nice presidential name. You should not be confused with all the questions you pose. Yes we shall continue to have accidents until we have a mass transportation system. I have argued before that the role of Government is facilitate. I need to add one more function: regulate. There is need to facilitate proper mass transportation system in country and then have a strong regulator. When I was young in late 70s, OTC then a Mass Transport system along with the Kenya Bus had a log in system that they could not be in Nakuru for example if they had not been scheduled to be there. Things worked then even Malaysians came to learn from us. With GPS and other ICT solutions, we should manage to safe our peoples's lifes.
Now in the midist of greed we need serious reforms and selflessness. Reviving the rail system should be priority number one but transport companies keep on sabotaging the rail system for their own selfish ends. Yes we have told our transport officials to reform the sector.
Ndemo
Distinguished listers,
I have read through the comments and still feel it is not yet time to celebrate, what we have simply done in the year 2009 is to build buses (Policies, Infrastructure , Strategies) however Kenyans are still walking on foot and hurting their toes as a result since they havent seen the difference this buses will make in their lives. Many gains have been made but they still don't resonate with the common man for instance *why are accidents still maiming Kenyans whereas we can use ICT's to curb them significantly through* CCTV's and other technologies (refer to Kwa Zulu Natal SA), *why is the corruption index still high whereas we can use ICT's to significantly reduce* *corruption*, *why is access to treatment a challenge whereas telemedicine is a reality,* *why is education expensive whereas e-learning is a reality* we continue to witness Petty fights among stakeholders whereas there are *REAL* issues that must be addressed we need to shun this culture and cooperate if we are to achieve more, if ICT cannot contribute to Socio-economic liberation, *then it is not worth it,* for those who were hitting hard continue with the same spirit mediocrity should not be tolerated, for the Peacemakers, be blessed in the year 2010 and continue with that spirit. -- Barrack O. Otieno Administrative Manager Afriregister Ltd (Ke) P.o.Box 21682 Nairobi 00100 Tel: +254721325277 +254733206359 +254202498789 Riara Road, Bamboo Lane www.afriregister.com www.afriregister.co.ke ICANN accredited registrar. Skype: barrack.otieno
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In my opinion these are not accidents that happen on our roads involving public transport. This is murder or homicide at the very least. Most of these drivers know they are driving unroadworthy vehicles at excessive speeds and therefore should be charged with premedidated murder. I would happily sponsor a programme to prove this point and drive home the lessons that we should be learning. Only when the industry is faced with the appropriate punishment for their crimes will they take notice. We accept these "accidents" too readily as a result of "burst tires" and "potholes" but most are avoidable. Our law enforcement agencies are Ill equipped and lack the knowledge to be really effective. How many have ever driven a vehicle at speed? How many have ever seen the effects of bald tires, poor brakes or steering, over crowding etc? We have all been through road blocks that are purely toll stations and seen obviously unroadworthy vehicles sail through? My thoughts on this precursor to another grisly New Year on our roads. May I take this opportunity to wish all on this list a great and peaceful New Year. Regards Michael Joseph CEO Safaricom Sent from my iPhone On 30 Dec 2009, at 14:12, "Rad!" <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Bwana Ndemo,
I agree with you 1000% about the regulate part.
This Christmas I travelled to Kieni using public means. Among my observations
The speed governor ship appears to have sailed. That Nissan I travelled with hit speeds of up to 150km/h Police are not interested in regulating anything other than their cash at hand position. There were exactly twelve police checks between Nairobi and Nyeri. The vehicle was stopped at each. At at least 3 of them I saw money change hands between driver and the officers From Nyeri town to Kieni the Nissan that ostensibly should legally sit 11 sat TWENTY TWO people. We passed through about 3 checks with uninterested policemen who could clearly see that it was overloaded. If the people charged to clamp down on such renege on their duties, what hope is there?
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:04 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: Dear Barrack, You have a nice presidential name. You should not be confused with all the questions you pose. Yes we shall continue to have accidents until we have a mass transportation system. I have argued before that the role of Government is facilitate. I need to add one more function: regulate. There is need to facilitate proper mass transportation system in country and then have a strong regulator. When I was young in late 70s, OTC then a Mass Transport system along with the Kenya Bus had a log in system that they could not be in Nakuru for example if they had not been scheduled to be there. Things worked then even Malaysians came to learn from us. With GPS and other ICT solutions, we should manage to safe our peoples's lifes.
Now in the midist of greed we need serious reforms and selflessness. Reviving the rail system should be priority number one but transport companies keep on sabotaging the rail system for their own selfish ends. Yes we have told our transport officials to reform the sector.
Ndemo
Distinguished listers,
I have read through the comments and still feel it is not yet time to celebrate, what we have simply done in the year 2009 is to build buses (Policies, Infrastructure , Strategies) however Kenyans are still walking on foot and hurting their toes as a result since they havent seen the difference this buses will make in their lives. Many gains have been made but they still don't resonate with the common man for instance *why are accidents still maiming Kenyans whereas we can use ICT's to curb them significantly through* CCTV's and other technologies (refer to Kwa Zulu Natal SA), *why is the corruption index still high whereas we can use ICT's to significantly reduce* *corruption*, *why is access to treatment a challenge whereas telemedicine is a reality,* *why is education expensive whereas e-learning is a reality* we continue to witness Petty fights among stakeholders whereas there are *REAL* issues that must be addressed we need to shun this culture and cooperate if we are to achieve more, if ICT cannot contribute to Socio-economic liberation, *then it is not worth it,* for those who were hitting hard continue with the same spirit mediocrity should not be tolerated, for the Peacemakers, be blessed in the year 2010 and continue with that spirit. -- Barrack O. Otieno Administrative Manager Afriregister Ltd (Ke) P.o.Box 21682 Nairobi 00100 Tel: +254721325277 +254733206359 +254202498789 Riara Road, Bamboo Lane www.afriregister.com www.afriregister.co.ke ICANN accredited registrar. Skype: barrack.otieno
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Listers.... Can we extend the CCTV phenomenon to our hoghways? For instance, KDN's Butterfly traffic cameras cover the main CBD streets...and main roads into CBD...Msa rd, Langata, Ngong, Wiayaki...etc. If the same were to be on highways..especially around our highway 'black spots', we may deter some of the rogue drivers. How do we apply ICT in sorting out our <vehicle inspection> process for PSVs? Buses/matatus stall in the Tsavo wildreness or crash every other night on the way to Mombasa, Eldoret etc yet they have been 'inspected'....especially during this peak travel season. Safe driving... On 12/30/09, Michael Joseph <MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke> wrote:
In my opinion these are not accidents that happen on our roads involving public transport. This is murder or homicide at the very least. Most of these drivers know they are driving unroadworthy vehicles at excessive speeds and therefore should be charged with premedidated murder. I would happily sponsor a programme to prove this point and drive home the lessons that we should be learning. Only when the industry is faced with the appropriate punishment for their crimes will they take notice.
We accept these "accidents" too readily as a result of "burst tires" and "potholes" but most are avoidable. Our law enforcement agencies are Ill equipped and lack the knowledge to be really effective. How many have ever driven a vehicle at speed? How many have ever seen the effects of bald tires, poor brakes or steering, over crowding etc?
We have all been through road blocks that are purely toll stations and seen obviously unroadworthy vehicles sail through?
My thoughts on this precursor to another grisly New Year on our roads.
May I take this opportunity to wish all on this list a great and peaceful New Year.
Regards Michael Joseph CEO Safaricom
Sent from my iPhone
On 30 Dec 2009, at 14:12, "Rad!" <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Bwana Ndemo,
I agree with you 1000% about the regulate part.
This Christmas I travelled to Kieni using public means. Among my observations
The speed governor ship appears to have sailed. That Nissan I travelled with hit speeds of up to 150km/h Police are not interested in regulating anything other than their cash at hand position. There were exactly twelve police checks between Nairobi and Nyeri. The vehicle was stopped at each. At at least 3 of them I saw money change hands between driver and the officers From Nyeri town to Kieni the Nissan that ostensibly should legally sit 11 sat TWENTY TWO people. We passed through about 3 checks with uninterested policemen who could clearly see that it was overloaded. If the people charged to clamp down on such renege on their duties, what hope is there?
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:04 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: Dear Barrack, You have a nice presidential name. You should not be confused with all the questions you pose. Yes we shall continue to have accidents until we have a mass transportation system. I have argued before that the role of Government is facilitate. I need to add one more function: regulate. There is need to facilitate proper mass transportation system in country and then have a strong regulator. When I was young in late 70s, OTC then a Mass Transport system along with the Kenya Bus had a log in system that they could not be in Nakuru for example if they had not been scheduled to be there. Things worked then even Malaysians came to learn from us. With GPS and other ICT solutions, we should manage to safe our peoples's lifes.
Now in the midist of greed we need serious reforms and selflessness. Reviving the rail system should be priority number one but transport companies keep on sabotaging the rail system for their own selfish ends. Yes we have told our transport officials to reform the sector.
Ndemo
Distinguished listers,
I have read through the comments and still feel it is not yet time to celebrate, what we have simply done in the year 2009 is to build buses (Policies, Infrastructure , Strategies) however Kenyans are still walking on foot and hurting their toes as a result since they havent seen the difference this buses will make in their lives. Many gains have been made but they still don't resonate with the common man for instance *why are accidents still maiming Kenyans whereas we can use ICT's to curb them significantly through* CCTV's and other technologies (refer to Kwa Zulu Natal SA), *why is the corruption index still high whereas we can use ICT's to significantly reduce* *corruption*, *why is access to treatment a challenge whereas telemedicine is a reality,* *why is education expensive whereas e-learning is a reality* we continue to witness Petty fights among stakeholders whereas there are *REAL* issues that must be addressed we need to shun this culture and cooperate if we are to achieve more, if ICT cannot contribute to Socio-economic liberation, *then it is not worth it,* for those who were hitting hard continue with the same spirit mediocrity should not be tolerated, for the Peacemakers, be blessed in the year 2010 and continue with that spirit. -- Barrack O. Otieno Administrative Manager Afriregister Ltd (Ke) P.o.Box 21682 Nairobi 00100 Tel: +254721325277 +254733206359 +254202498789 Riara Road, Bamboo Lane www.afriregister.com www.afriregister.co.ke ICANN accredited registrar. Skype: barrack.otieno
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I definitely second that, and it's an ICT project that some students had undertaken in university... but thinking of the logistics of presentation while defending the project (one is required to have all the relevant tools with you e.g. the CCTV and all)- noting that there is limited support from the university - was quite a challenge. I think there is immense potential in our campuses which lies untapped. Unfortunately our campuses are not quite keen on promoting this. We work on projects which lie on shelves once done in the lecturers offices... key projects which if well facilitated can go places. Only one or two students are lucky enough to get their projects noticed by outsiders (like in the CCK exhibitions at KICC) last year... Students have great potential but very few get the acknowledgment deserved. Anyone interested we can work to make this happen, we outsource yet we have our very own that can make it happen. Terry Njoroge, ICWE Ltd. P.O. Box 746-00100, Nairobi, Kenya. Office: 020 234 3961 Cell: 0724-866771 -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+terry=icwe.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+terry=icwe.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Wainaina Mungai Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 7:03 AM To: terry@icwe.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] @ 2010 Not Yet Uhuru Listers.... Can we extend the CCTV phenomenon to our hoghways? For instance, KDN's Butterfly traffic cameras cover the main CBD streets...and main roads into CBD...Msa rd, Langata, Ngong, Wiayaki...etc. If the same were to be on highways..especially around our highway 'black spots', we may deter some of the rogue drivers. How do we apply ICT in sorting out our <vehicle inspection> process for PSVs? Buses/matatus stall in the Tsavo wildreness or crash every other night on the way to Mombasa, Eldoret etc yet they have been 'inspected'....especially during this peak travel season. Safe driving... On 12/30/09, Michael Joseph <MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke> wrote:
In my opinion these are not accidents that happen on our roads involving public transport. This is murder or homicide at the very least. Most of these drivers know they are driving unroadworthy vehicles at excessive speeds and therefore should be charged with premedidated murder. I would happily sponsor a programme to prove this point and drive home the lessons that we should be learning. Only when the industry is faced with the appropriate punishment for their crimes will they take notice.
We accept these "accidents" too readily as a result of "burst tires" and "potholes" but most are avoidable. Our law enforcement agencies are Ill equipped and lack the knowledge to be really effective. How many have ever driven a vehicle at speed? How many have ever seen the effects of bald tires, poor brakes or steering, over crowding etc?
We have all been through road blocks that are purely toll stations and seen obviously unroadworthy vehicles sail through?
My thoughts on this precursor to another grisly New Year on our roads.
May I take this opportunity to wish all on this list a great and peaceful New Year.
Regards Michael Joseph CEO Safaricom
Sent from my iPhone
On 30 Dec 2009, at 14:12, "Rad!" <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Bwana Ndemo,
I agree with you 1000% about the regulate part.
This Christmas I travelled to Kieni using public means. Among my observations
The speed governor ship appears to have sailed. That Nissan I travelled with hit speeds of up to 150km/h Police are not interested in regulating anything other than their cash at hand position. There were exactly twelve police checks between Nairobi and Nyeri. The vehicle was stopped at each. At at least 3 of them I saw money change hands between driver and the officers From Nyeri town to Kieni the Nissan that ostensibly should legally sit 11 sat TWENTY TWO people. We passed through about 3 checks with uninterested policemen who could clearly see that it was overloaded. If the people charged to clamp down on such renege on their duties, what hope is there?
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:04 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: Dear Barrack, You have a nice presidential name. You should not be confused with all the questions you pose. Yes we shall continue to have accidents until we have a mass transportation system. I have argued before that the role of Government is facilitate. I need to add one more function: regulate. There is need to facilitate proper mass transportation system in country and then have a strong regulator. When I was young in late 70s, OTC then a Mass Transport system along with the Kenya Bus had a log in system that they could not be in Nakuru for example if they had not been scheduled to be there. Things worked then even Malaysians came to learn from us. With GPS and other ICT solutions, we should manage to safe our peoples's lifes.
Now in the midist of greed we need serious reforms and selflessness. Reviving the rail system should be priority number one but transport companies keep on sabotaging the rail system for their own selfish ends. Yes we have told our transport officials to reform the sector.
Ndemo
Distinguished listers,
I have read through the comments and still feel it is not yet time to celebrate, what we have simply done in the year 2009 is to build buses (Policies, Infrastructure , Strategies) however Kenyans are still walking on foot and hurting their toes as a result since they havent seen the difference this buses will make in their lives. Many gains have been made but they still don't resonate with the common man for instance *why are accidents still maiming Kenyans whereas we can use ICT's to curb them significantly through* CCTV's and other technologies (refer to Kwa Zulu Natal SA), *why is the corruption index still high whereas we can use ICT's to significantly reduce* *corruption*, *why is access to treatment a challenge whereas telemedicine is a reality,* *why is education expensive whereas e-learning is a reality* we continue to witness Petty fights among stakeholders whereas there are *REAL* issues that must be addressed we need to shun this culture and cooperate if we are to achieve more, if ICT cannot contribute to Socio-economic liberation, *then it is not worth it,* for those who were hitting hard continue with the same spirit mediocrity should not be tolerated, for the Peacemakers, be blessed in the year 2010 and continue with that spirit. -- Barrack O. Otieno Administrative Manager Afriregister Ltd (Ke) P.o.Box 21682 Nairobi 00100 Tel: +254721325277 +254733206359 +254202498789 Riara Road, Bamboo Lane www.afriregister.com www.afriregister.co.ke ICANN accredited registrar. Skype: barrack.otieno
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Facilitate & Regulate only? I think this is not true since when I look at public transport in the west, they are owned by the Councils which are the government. Facilitate and regulate might just be some of the functions, but ownership, especially in infrastructure - transport & communications - should be owned by the Government, albeit the local council governments. Sanity on the roads, on the other hand, is purely an attitude problem with us the citizens - We jump onto public transport and they are driven the way the are yet we don't raise a voice, We offer the cops bribes or see them being offered bribes and do nothing about it. This is entirely a personal thing and until our attitudes change - however good the transport system is - we will not go anywhere. Happy 2010 ./Ok3ch On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:04 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Dear Barrack, You have a nice presidential name. You should not be confused with all the questions you pose. Yes we shall continue to have accidents until we have a mass transportation system. I have argued before that the role of Government is facilitate. I need to add one more function: regulate. There is need to facilitate proper mass transportation system in country and then have a strong regulator. When I was young in late 70s, OTC then a Mass Transport system along with the Kenya Bus had a log in system that they could not be in Nakuru for example if they had not been scheduled to be there. Things worked then even Malaysians came to learn from us. With GPS and other ICT solutions, we should manage to safe our peoples's lifes.
Now in the midist of greed we need serious reforms and selflessness. Reviving the rail system should be priority number one but transport companies keep on sabotaging the rail system for their own selfish ends. Yes we have told our transport officials to reform the sector.
Ndemo
Distinguished listers,
I have read through the comments and still feel it is not yet time to celebrate, what we have simply done in the year 2009 is to build buses (Policies, Infrastructure , Strategies) however Kenyans are still walking on foot and hurting their toes as a result since they havent seen the difference this buses will make in their lives. Many gains have been made but they still don't resonate with the common man for instance *why are accidents still maiming Kenyans whereas we can use ICT's to curb them significantly through* CCTV's and other technologies (refer to Kwa Zulu Natal SA), *why is the corruption index still high whereas we can use ICT's to significantly reduce* *corruption*, *why is access to treatment a challenge whereas telemedicine is a reality,* *why is education expensive whereas e-learning is a reality* we continue to witness Petty fights among stakeholders whereas there are *REAL* issues that must be addressed we need to shun this culture and cooperate if we are to achieve more, if ICT cannot contribute to Socio-economic liberation, *then it is not worth it,* for those who were hitting hard continue with the same spirit mediocrity should not be tolerated, for the Peacemakers, be blessed in the year 2010 and continue with that spirit. -- Barrack O. Otieno Administrative Manager Afriregister Ltd (Ke) P.o.Box 21682 Nairobi 00100 Tel: +254721325277 +254733206359 +254202498789 Riara Road, Bamboo Lane www.afriregister.com www.afriregister.co.ke ICANN accredited registrar. Skype: barrack.otieno
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Okechukwu (are you Kenyan?) We may be talking the same things. When the Government or councils own, it is facilitating. Government or councils should not be in business. They can invest partly but they should not run anything called business. This has failed in many places and in many times. Telcoms industry in this country is vibrant because Government does not run them and if you recall the sector almost failed. Today virtually every country has privatized. You will never manage transport business without a regulator. Not the police. The regulator will deal with this attitude problem. Allow me to take you back to my earlier argument on which system (ideology) works. I said we must accord the people political freedom them ensure individual liberties. Within that realm we can agree when one interveres with the others liberties. This where the regulator will come in. The police will deal with the criminal aspect not monitoring. Do not complain about the police when the problem is ours as a people. In the morning we want to be controlled yet in the evening we want to be in the streets protesting for freedoms. We must agree under which framework we operate. That is why a simple document to provide us with a governance framework has become such a big thing. We would not need a constitution if we all understand what individual liberties are and how we must relate to one onother. Leave Government out of business. Ndemo.
Facilitate & Regulate only? I think this is not true since when I look at public transport in the west, they are owned by the Councils which are the government. Facilitate and regulate might just be some of the functions, but ownership, especially in infrastructure - transport & communications - should be owned by the Government, albeit the local council governments.
Sanity on the roads, on the other hand, is purely an attitude problem with us the citizens - We jump onto public transport and they are driven the way the are yet we don't raise a voice, We offer the cops bribes or see them being offered bribes and do nothing about it. This is entirely a personal thing and until our attitudes change - however good the transport system is - we will not go anywhere.
Happy 2010
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:04 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Dear Barrack, You have a nice presidential name. You should not be confused with all the questions you pose. Yes we shall continue to have accidents until we have a mass transportation system. I have argued before that the role of Government is facilitate. I need to add one more function: regulate. There is need to facilitate proper mass transportation system in country and then have a strong regulator. When I was young in late 70s, OTC then a Mass Transport system along with the Kenya Bus had a log in system that they could not be in Nakuru for example if they had not been scheduled to be there. Things worked then even Malaysians came to learn from us. With GPS and other ICT solutions, we should manage to safe our peoples's lifes.
Now in the midist of greed we need serious reforms and selflessness. Reviving the rail system should be priority number one but transport companies keep on sabotaging the rail system for their own selfish ends. Yes we have told our transport officials to reform the sector.
Ndemo
Distinguished listers,
I have read through the comments and still feel it is not yet time to celebrate, what we have simply done in the year 2009 is to build buses (Policies, Infrastructure , Strategies) however Kenyans are still walking on foot and hurting their toes as a result since they havent seen the difference this buses will make in their lives. Many gains have been made but they still don't resonate with the common man for instance *why are accidents still maiming Kenyans whereas we can use ICT's to curb them significantly through* CCTV's and other technologies (refer to Kwa Zulu Natal SA), *why is the corruption index still high whereas we can use ICT's to significantly reduce* *corruption*, *why is access to treatment a challenge whereas telemedicine is a reality,* *why is education expensive whereas e-learning is a reality* we continue to witness Petty fights among stakeholders whereas there are *REAL* issues that must be addressed we need to shun this culture and cooperate if we are to achieve more, if ICT cannot contribute to Socio-economic liberation, *then it is not worth it,* for those who were hitting hard continue with the same spirit mediocrity should not be tolerated, for the Peacemakers, be blessed in the year 2010 and continue with that spirit. -- Barrack O. Otieno Administrative Manager Afriregister Ltd (Ke) P.o.Box 21682 Nairobi 00100 Tel: +254721325277 +254733206359 +254202498789 Riara Road, Bamboo Lane www.afriregister.com www.afriregister.co.ke ICANN accredited registrar. Skype: barrack.otieno
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Thanks Daktari for taking us back to the seventies, that is very relevant " local content " at least you have pointed out possible solutions meaning we dont mean to reinvent the wheel, i hope we shall be able to engage with Matatu Owners association in the new year, moderator possbilities of having such a forum? MM, Walu? On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 4:07 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Okechukwu (are you Kenyan?) We may be talking the same things. When the Government or councils own, it is facilitating. Government or councils should not be in business. They can invest partly but they should not run anything called business. This has failed in many places and in many times. Telcoms industry in this country is vibrant because Government does not run them and if you recall the sector almost failed. Today virtually every country has privatized.
You will never manage transport business without a regulator. Not the police. The regulator will deal with this attitude problem. Allow me to take you back to my earlier argument on which system (ideology) works. I said we must accord the people political freedom them ensure individual liberties. Within that realm we can agree when one interveres with the others liberties. This where the regulator will come in. The police will deal with the criminal aspect not monitoring.
Do not complain about the police when the problem is ours as a people. In the morning we want to be controlled yet in the evening we want to be in the streets protesting for freedoms. We must agree under which framework we operate. That is why a simple document to provide us with a governance framework has become such a big thing. We would not need a constitution if we all understand what individual liberties are and how we must relate to one onother. Leave Government out of business.
Ndemo.
Facilitate & Regulate only? I think this is not true since when I look at public transport in the west, they are owned by the Councils which are the government. Facilitate and regulate might just be some of the functions, but ownership, especially in infrastructure - transport & communications - should be owned by the Government, albeit the local council governments.
Sanity on the roads, on the other hand, is purely an attitude problem with us the citizens - We jump onto public transport and they are driven the way the are yet we don't raise a voice, We offer the cops bribes or see them being offered bribes and do nothing about it. This is entirely a personal thing and until our attitudes change - however good the transport system is - we will not go anywhere.
Happy 2010
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:04 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Dear Barrack, You have a nice presidential name. You should not be confused with all the questions you pose. Yes we shall continue to have accidents until we have a mass transportation system. I have argued before that the role of Government is facilitate. I need to add one more function: regulate. There is need to facilitate proper mass transportation system in country and then have a strong regulator. When I was young in late 70s, OTC then a Mass Transport system along with the Kenya Bus had a log in system that they could not be in Nakuru for example if they had not been scheduled to be there. Things worked then even Malaysians came to learn from us. With GPS and other ICT solutions, we should manage to safe our peoples's lifes.
Now in the midist of greed we need serious reforms and selflessness. Reviving the rail system should be priority number one but transport companies keep on sabotaging the rail system for their own selfish ends. Yes we have told our transport officials to reform the sector.
Ndemo
Distinguished listers,
I have read through the comments and still feel it is not yet time to celebrate, what we have simply done in the year 2009 is to build buses (Policies, Infrastructure , Strategies) however Kenyans are still walking on foot and hurting their toes as a result since they havent seen the difference this buses will make in their lives. Many gains have been made but they still don't resonate with the common man for instance *why are accidents still maiming Kenyans whereas we can use ICT's to curb them significantly through* CCTV's and other technologies (refer to Kwa Zulu Natal SA), *why is the corruption index still high whereas we can use ICT's to significantly reduce* *corruption*, *why is access to treatment a challenge whereas telemedicine is a reality,* *why is education expensive whereas e-learning is a reality* we continue to witness Petty fights among stakeholders whereas there are *REAL* issues that must be addressed we need to shun this culture and cooperate if we are to achieve more, if ICT cannot contribute to Socio-economic liberation, *then it is not worth it,* for those who were hitting hard continue with the same spirit mediocrity should not be tolerated, for the Peacemakers, be blessed in the year 2010 and continue with that spirit. -- Barrack O. Otieno Administrative Manager Afriregister Ltd (Ke) P.o.Box 21682 Nairobi 00100 Tel: +254721325277 +254733206359 +254202498789 Riara Road, Bamboo Lane www.afriregister.com www.afriregister.co.ke ICANN accredited registrar. Skype: barrack.otieno
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There exists adequate technologysolutions to deal with the existing traffic problems in the transport sector.What we need is the will to implement them. I see little merit in deploying Police Officers where technology is by far more effective. Our are not road accidents, because they are actually predictable in the circumstances our public transporters operate. So let us pursue immediate technology solutions to the problem as we examine longer term broader mass transport systems . John Kariuki --- On Wed, 30/12/09, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote: From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] @ 2010 Not Yet Uhuru To: ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, 30 December, 2009, 13:42 Thanks Daktari for taking us back to the seventies, that is very relevant " local content " at least you have pointed out possible solutions meaning we dont mean to reinvent the wheel, i hope we shall be able to engage with Matatu Owners association in the new year, moderator possbilities of having such a forum? MM, Walu? On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 4:07 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: Okechukwu (are you Kenyan?) We may be talking the same things. When the Government or councils own, it is facilitating. Government or councils should not be in business. They can invest partly but they should not run anything called business. This has failed in many places and in many times. Telcoms industry in this country is vibrant because Government does not run them and if you recall the sector almost failed. Today virtually every country has privatized. You will never manage transport business without a regulator. Not the police. The regulator will deal with this attitude problem. Allow me to take you back to my earlier argument on which system (ideology) works. I said we must accord the people political freedom them ensure individual liberties. Within that realm we can agree when one interveres with the others liberties. This where the regulator will come in. The police will deal with the criminal aspect not monitoring. Do not complain about the police when the problem is ours as a people. In the morning we want to be controlled yet in the evening we want to be in the streets protesting for freedoms. We must agree under which framework we operate. That is why a simple document to provide us with a governance framework has become such a big thing. We would not need a constitution if we all understand what individual liberties are and how we must relate to one onother. Leave Government out of business. Ndemo.
Facilitate & Regulate only? I think this is not true since when I look
at public transport in the west, they are owned by the Councils which
are the government. Facilitate and regulate might just be some of the
functions, but ownership, especially in infrastructure - transport &
communications - should be owned by the Government, albeit the local
council governments.
Sanity on the roads, on the other hand, is purely an attitude problem
with us the citizens - We jump onto public transport and they are
driven the way the are yet we don't raise a voice, We offer the cops
bribes or see them being offered bribes and do nothing about it. This
is entirely a personal thing and until our attitudes change - however
good the transport system is - we will not go anywhere.
Happy 2010
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:04 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Dear Barrack,
You have a nice presidential name. You should not be confused with all
the questions you pose. Yes we shall continue to have accidents until
we
have a mass transportation system. I have argued before that the role
of
Government is facilitate. I need to add one more function: regulate.
There is need to facilitate proper mass transportation system in country
and then have a strong regulator. When I was young in late 70s, OTC
then
a Mass Transport system along with the Kenya Bus had a log in system
that
they could not be in Nakuru for example if they had not been scheduled
to
be there. Things worked then even Malaysians came to learn from us.
With
GPS and other ICT solutions, we should manage to safe our peoples's
lifes.
Now in the midist of greed we need serious reforms and selflessness.
Reviving the rail system should be priority number one but transport
companies keep on sabotaging the rail system for their own selfish ends.
Yes we have told our transport officials to reform the sector.
Ndemo
Distinguished listers,
I have read through the comments and still feel it is not yet time to
celebrate, what we have simply done in the year 2009 is to build buses
(Policies, Infrastructure , Strategies) however Kenyans are still
walking
on
foot and hurting their toes as a result since they havent seen the
difference this buses will make in their lives. Many gains have been
made
but they still don't resonate with the common man for instance *why are
accidents still maiming Kenyans whereas we can use ICT's to curb them
significantly through* CCTV's and other technologies (refer to Kwa Zulu
Natal SA), *why is the corruption index still high whereas we can use
ICT's
to significantly reduce* *corruption*, *why is access to treatment a
challenge whereas telemedicine is a reality,* *why is education
expensive
whereas e-learning is a reality* we continue to witness Petty fights
among
stakeholders whereas there are *REAL* issues that must be addressed we
need
to shun this culture and cooperate if we are to achieve more, if ICT
cannot
contribute to Socio-economic liberation, *then it is not worth it,* for
those who were hitting hard continue with the same spirit mediocrity
should
not be tolerated, for the Peacemakers, be blessed in the year 2010 and
continue with that spirit.
--
Barrack O. Otieno
Administrative Manager
Afriregister Ltd (Ke)
P.o.Box 21682
Nairobi 00100
Tel:
+254721325277
+254733206359
+254202498789
Riara Road, Bamboo Lane
www.afriregister.com
www.afriregister.co.ke
ICANN accredited registrar.
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Barrack Otieno -
bitange＠jambo.co.ke -
John Kariuki -
Michael Joseph -
Okechukwu -
Rad! -
Terry Njoroge -
Wainaina Mungai