There exists adequate technologysolutions to deal with the existing traffic problems in the transport sector.What we need is the will to implement them.
I see little merit in deploying Police Officers where technology is by far more effective.
Our are not road accidents, because they are actually predictable in the circumstances our public transporters operate.

So let us pursue immediate technology solutions to the problem as we examine longer term broader mass transport systems .

John Kariuki

--- On Wed, 30/12/09, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] @ 2010 Not Yet Uhuru
To: ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Date: Wednesday, 30 December, 2009, 13:42

Thanks Daktari for taking us back to the seventies, that is very relevant " local content " at least you have pointed out possible solutions meaning we dont mean to reinvent the wheel, i hope we shall be able to engage with Matatu Owners association in the new year, moderator possbilities of having such a forum? MM, Walu?

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 4:07 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Okechukwu (are you Kenyan?)
We may be talking the same things.  When the Government or councils own,
it is facilitating.  Government or councils should not be in business.
They can invest partly but they should not run anything called business.
This has failed in many places and in many times.  Telcoms industry in
this country is vibrant because Government does not run them and if you
recall the sector almost failed.  Today virtually every country has
privatized.

You will never manage transport business without a regulator.  Not the
police.  The regulator will deal with this attitude problem.  Allow me to
take you back to my earlier argument on which system (ideology) works.  I
said we must accord the people political freedom them ensure individual
liberties.  Within that realm we can agree when one interveres with the
others liberties.  This where the regulator will come in.  The police will
deal with the criminal aspect not monitoring.

Do not complain about the police when the problem is ours as a people.  In
the morning we want to be controlled yet in the evening we want to be in
the streets protesting for freedoms.  We must agree under which framework
we operate.  That is why a simple document to provide us with a governance
framework has become such a big thing.  We would not need a constitution
if we all understand what individual liberties are and how we must relate
to one onother.  Leave Government out of business.


Ndemo.





> Facilitate & Regulate only? I think this is not true since when I look
> at public transport in the west, they are owned by the Councils which
> are the government. Facilitate and regulate might just be some of the
> functions, but ownership, especially in infrastructure - transport &
> communications - should be owned by the Government, albeit the local
> council governments.
>
> Sanity on the roads, on the other hand, is purely an attitude problem
> with us the citizens - We jump onto public transport and they are
> driven the way the are yet we don't raise a voice, We offer the cops
> bribes or see them being offered bribes and do nothing about it. This
> is entirely a personal thing and until our attitudes change - however
> good the transport system is - we will not go anywhere.
>
> Happy 2010
>
> ./Ok3ch
>
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:04 PM,  <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
>> Dear Barrack,
>> You have a nice presidential name.  You should not be confused with all
>> the questions you pose.  Yes we shall continue to have accidents until
>> we
>> have a mass transportation system.  I have argued before that the role
>> of
>> Government is facilitate.  I need to add one more function: regulate.
>> There is need to facilitate proper mass transportation system in country
>> and then have a strong regulator.  When I was young in late 70s, OTC
>> then
>> a Mass Transport system along with the Kenya Bus had a log in system
>> that
>> they could not be in Nakuru for example if they had not been scheduled
>> to
>> be there.  Things worked then even Malaysians came to learn from us.
>>  With
>> GPS and other ICT solutions, we should manage to safe our peoples's
>> lifes.
>>
>> Now in the midist of greed we need serious reforms and selflessness.
>> Reviving the rail system should be priority number one but transport
>> companies keep on sabotaging the rail system for their own selfish ends.
>> Yes we have told our transport officials to reform the sector.
>>
>>
>> Ndemo
>>
>>
>>> Distinguished listers,
>>>
>>> I have read through the comments and still feel it is not yet time to
>>> celebrate, what we have simply done in the year 2009 is to build buses
>>> (Policies, Infrastructure , Strategies) however Kenyans are still
>>> walking
>>> on
>>> foot and hurting their toes as a result since they havent seen the
>>> difference this buses will make in their lives. Many gains have been
>>> made
>>> but they still don't resonate with the common man for instance *why are
>>> accidents still maiming Kenyans whereas we can use ICT's to curb them
>>> significantly through* CCTV's and other technologies (refer to Kwa Zulu
>>> Natal SA), *why is the corruption index still high whereas we can use
>>> ICT's
>>> to significantly reduce* *corruption*, *why is access to treatment a
>>> challenge whereas telemedicine is a reality,* *why is education
>>> expensive
>>> whereas e-learning is a reality* we continue to witness Petty fights
>>> among
>>> stakeholders whereas there are *REAL* issues that must be addressed we
>>> need
>>> to shun this culture and cooperate if we are to achieve more, if ICT
>>> cannot
>>> contribute to Socio-economic liberation, *then it is not worth it,* for
>>> those who were hitting hard continue with the same spirit mediocrity
>>> should
>>> not be tolerated, for the Peacemakers, be blessed in the year 2010 and
>>> continue with that spirit.
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