Harry Unless I didn't get your message clearly , kplc providers a dark fibre Cheers MM From: Harry Hare [mailto:harry@africanedevelopment.org] Sent: 02 February 2010 15:18 To: mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Safaricom partners with KPLC to expand its data footprint MM, At the data operator level, they seem like a game changer to me. Kindest Regards Harry On 2/2/10 3:12 PM, "muriuki mureithi" <mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke> wrote: Hi Harry Kplc is not a game changer but offered extra fibre capacity to the telecom operators in line with national ICT policy . Safaricom is one of those interested to use the fibre Note that kplc is not entering the telecom consumer market Cheers MM From: kictanet-bounces+mureithi=summitstrategies.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+mureithi=summitstrategies.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.k e] On Behalf Of Harry Hare Sent: 02 February 2010 14:41 To: mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Safaricom partners with KPLC to expand its data footprint This is a very interesting development, bringing to fore the potential that KPLC have as a game changer with its fiber. http://tinyurl.com/ybbhsmn Harry African eDevelopment Resource Centre eDevelopment House : : 604 Limuru Road Old Muthaiga : : P O Box 49475 00100 Nairobi : : Kenya T +254 20 3741646/7 : : C +254 725 650044 Training : : Research: :Consultancy: : Publishing African eDevelopment Resource Centre eDevelopment House : : 604 Limuru Road Old Muthaiga : : P O Box 49475 00100 Nairobi : : Kenya T +254 20 3741646/7 : : C +254 725 650044 Training : : Research: :Consultancy: : Publishing

Harry, MM et al, Dont lose sight of what McTim was asking- he wondered if Kenya Power will be availing this dark-fiber to other players in the industry (open-access model). Knowing Safcom's (MJs?) track record (they fight hard, Microsoft Style), I wouldnt be suprised if they have nailed this deal with KPLC on an "exclusive" basis.  What's worse, the regulator (CCK) can only watch from the sidelines because he would be told that what KPLC does is a matter of another ministry (of Energy) - who ofcourse have no clue on matters pertaining Data packets (their menu is electrical power not Internet). Yes, it's another feather (or coup?) for Safcom as Walela rightly observes. I can actually see Kai (KDN) and Joshua (Jamii Telcom) calling an urgent strategic meeting on this new development because it is not funny... walu.   --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Harry Hare <harry@africanedevelopment.org> wrote: From: Harry Hare <harry@africanedevelopment.org> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Safaricom partners with KPLC to expand its data footprint To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 4:36 PM Re: [kictanet] Safaricom partners with KPLC to expand its data footprint Yes, possibly...I actually looking at it from the geographical spread, security of the fiber given the many incidents of vandalism we have witnessed over the recent past and possibly the cost that the like of Safaricom can access the fiber for. The last time I spoke to someone from KPLC he indicated that it costs them a third what other digger pays to lay their fiber. Just a hunch, I know this is your forte! Cheers Harry On 2/2/10 3:27 PM, "muriuki mureithi" <mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke> wrote: Harry Unless I didn’t get your message clearly , kplc providers a dark fibre Cheers MM   From: Harry Hare [mailto:harry@africanedevelopment.org] Sent: 02 February 2010 15:18 To: mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Safaricom partners with KPLC to expand its data footprint MM, At the data operator level, they seem like a game changer to me. Kindest Regards Harry On 2/2/10 3:12 PM, "muriuki mureithi" <mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke> wrote: Hi Harry Kplc is not a game changer but offered extra fibre capacity to the telecom operators in line with national ICT policy .  Safaricom is one of those interested to use the fibre Note that kplc is not entering the telecom consumer market Cheers MM     From: kictanet-bounces+mureithi=summitstrategies.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+mureithi=summitstrategies.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Harry Hare Sent: 02 February 2010 14:41 To: mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Safaricom partners with KPLC to expand its data footprint This is a very interesting development, bringing to fore the potential that KPLC have as a game changer with its fiber. http://tinyurl.com/ybbhsmn Harry African eDevelopment Resource Centre eDevelopment House  : :  604 Limuru Road Old Muthaiga  : : P O Box 49475 00100 Nairobi : : Kenya T +254 20 3741646/7 : :  C +254 725 650044 Training :  : Research:  :Consultancy:  : Publishing African eDevelopment Resource Centre eDevelopment House  : :  604 Limuru Road Old Muthaiga  : : P O Box 49475 00100 Nairobi : : Kenya T +254 20 3741646/7 : :  C +254 725 650044 Training :  : Research:  :Consultancy:  : Publishing African eDevelopment Resource Centre eDevelopment House  : :  604 Limuru Road Old Muthaiga  : : P O Box 49475 00100 Nairobi : : Kenya T +254 20 3741646/7 : :  C +254 725 650044 Training :  : Research:  :Consultancy:  : Publishing -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: jwalu@yahoo.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com

Oh! ok. My bad. I didnt doubt the KPLC engineers with respect to running fiber - What I doubted was the Min of Energy ability to navigate through "Open-Access Regulatory" challenges and the supposedly the confusion thereof. But if KPLC has a license from the Regulator it then means (and i do surely hope), the regulator has tabs on this issue and is aware of the (dominant) market impact, one operator can have or leverage from an exclusive access to a public utility... walu. nb: come to think of it, why would KPLC want to limit the access, i thought the more the merrier (one of MMs popular quotes). --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote: From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Safaricom partners with KPLC to expand its data footprint To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 6:28 PM Walu, You sound unusually alarmist - comments follow: On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: Harry, MM et al, Dont lose sight of what McTim was asking- he wondered if Kenya Power will be availing this dark-fiber to other players in the industry (open-access model). Knowing Safcom's (MJs?) track record (they fight hard, Microsoft Style), I wouldnt be suprised if they have nailed this deal with KPLC on an "exclusive" basis.  Since the optical fiber KPLC has is limited, they must have a certain criteria for 'awarding' it to 3rd parties   What's worse, the regulator (CCK) can only watch from the sidelines because he would be told that what KPLC does is a matter of another ministry (of Energy) - who ofcourse have no clue on matters pertaining Data packets (their menu is electrical power not Internet). KPLC actually has a 'special' license from CCK under which they are able to enter into arrangements such as the one with Safaricom. The reason I say it is special is because it has certain restrictions unique to KPLC - specifically that they shouldn't provide services to end users - only to other operators. They might not have much clue as far as data packets are concerned, but they have the best fiber optic engineers in the country as they have been maintaining their own fiber network for donkey years. Much longer than anyone else in the industry. My 3 cents, Mblayo     --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Harry Hare <harry@africanedevelopment.org> wrote: From: Harry Hare <harry@africanedevelopment.org> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Safaricom partners with KPLC to expand its data footprint To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 4:36 PM Yes, possibly...I actually looking at it from the geographical spread, security of the fiber given the many incidents of vandalism we have witnessed over the recent past and possibly the cost that the like of Safaricom can access the fiber for. The last time I spoke to someone from KPLC he indicated that it costs them a third what other digger pays to lay their fiber. Just a hunch, I know this is your forte! Cheers Harry On 2/2/10 3:27 PM, "muriuki mureithi" <mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke> wrote: Harry Unless I didn’t get your message clearly , kplc providers a dark fibre Cheers MM   From: Harry Hare [mailto:harry@africanedevelopment.org] Sent: 02 February 2010 15:18 To: mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Safaricom partners with KPLC to expand its data footprint MM, At the data operator level, they seem like a game changer to me. Kindest Regards Harry On 2/2/10 3:12 PM, "muriuki mureithi" <mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke> wrote: Hi Harry Kplc is not a game changer but offered extra fibre capacity to the telecom operators in line with national ICT policy .  Safaricom is one of those interested to use the fibre Note that kplc is not entering the telecom consumer market Cheers MM     From: kictanet-bounces+mureithi=summitstrategies.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+mureithi=summitstrategies.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Harry Hare Sent: 02 February 2010 14:41 To: mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Safaricom partners with KPLC to expand its data footprint This is a very interesting development, bringing to fore the potential that KPLC have as a game changer with its fiber. http://tinyurl.com/ybbhsmn Harry African eDevelopment Resource Centre eDevelopment House  : :  604 Limuru Road Old Muthaiga  : : P O Box 49475 00100 Nairobi : : Kenya T +254 20 3741646/7 : :  C +254 725 650044 Training :  : Research:  :Consultancy:  : Publishing African eDevelopment Resource Centre eDevelopment House  : :  604 Limuru Road Old Muthaiga  : : P O Box 49475 00100 Nairobi : : Kenya T +254 20 3741646/7 : :  C +254 725 650044 Training :  : Research:  :Consultancy:  : Publishing African eDevelopment Resource Centre eDevelopment House  : :  604 Limuru Road Old Muthaiga  : : P O Box 49475 00100 Nairobi : : Kenya T +254 20 3741646/7 : :  C +254 725 650044 Training :  : Research:  :Consultancy:  : Publishing -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: jwalu@yahoo.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: blongwe@gmail.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/blongwe%40gmail.com -- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe@gmail.com cell:  + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com

I trust this can only mean good progress, for the industry. I have a few questions though. Does the Fibre cable run side by side with the power lines..? What might be the future of Broadband over power line (BPL) distribution, in this country, following this latest development..? Does KPLC's run a Fibre infrastructure to Mombasa on it's grid? Arguably, most outages are being experienced by service providers on this route, and they are losing lot's of revenue in the process... I suppose KPLC's would be a secure connection anywhere, since the risk of "electrocution" will simply fend off any would-be vandal. Or am I thinking too aloud. Harry _____ From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Michael Joseph Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 5:47 PM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Safaricom partners with KPLC to expand itsdatafootprint KPLC invited all licensed operators to bid for the rights to access the surplus pairs in the cable. A reserve price was set for both leased and IRU models. A number of operators responded and so far only 3 have signed contracts – Safaricom, Wananchi and Jamii Telecom. There is no exclusivity as can be seen. I do not know which operators did not bid but I do know that other operators are still in talks with KPLC. Safaricom have only taken 1 pair out of the 12 available. Michael CEO Safaricom Limited _____ From: kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 5:23 PM To: Michael Joseph Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Safaricom partners with KPLC to expand its datafootprint Harry, MM et al, Dont lose sight of what McTim was asking- he wondered if Kenya Power will be availing this dark-fiber to other players in the industry (open-access model). Knowing Safcom's (MJs?) track record (they fight hard, Microsoft Style), I wouldnt be suprised if they have nailed this deal with KPLC on an "exclusive" basis. What's worse, the regulator (CCK) can only watch from the sidelines because he would be told that what KPLC does is a matter of another ministry (of Energy) - who ofcourse have no clue on matters pertaining Data packets (their menu is electrical power not Internet). Yes, it's another feather (or coup?) for Safcom as Walela rightly observes. I can actually see Kai (KDN) and Joshua (Jamii Telcom) calling an urgent strategic meeting on this new development because it is not funny... walu. --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Harry Hare <harry@africanedevelopment.org> wrote: From: Harry Hare <harry@africanedevelopment.org> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Safaricom partners with KPLC to expand its data footprint To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 4:36 PM Yes, possibly...I actually looking at it from the geographical spread, security of the fiber given the many incidents of vandalism we have witnessed over the recent past and possibly the cost that the like of Safaricom can access the fiber for. The last time I spoke to someone from KPLC he indicated that it costs them a third what other digger pays to lay their fiber. Just a hunch, I know this is your forte! Cheers Harry On 2/2/10 3:27 PM, "muriuki mureithi" <mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke> wrote: Harry Unless I didn’t get your message clearly , kplc providers a dark fibre Cheers MM From: Harry Hare [mailto:harry@africanedevelopment.org] Sent: 02 February 2010 15:18 To: mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Safaricom partners with KPLC to expand its data footprint MM, At the data operator level, they seem like a game changer to me. Kindest Regards Harry On 2/2/10 3:12 PM, "muriuki mureithi" <mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke> wrote: Hi Harry Kplc is not a game changer but offered extra fibre capacity to the telecom operators in line with national ICT policy . 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Thank you, Mr. P.S for being a driver in the process.. Let's hope we derive real Broadband from the providers, and not just the name "Broadband", in order to sell.. Secondly, as you indicated to providers, we look forward to substantive drop in the high pricing on connectivity across board in 2 months.. Harry -----Original Message----- From: bitange@jambo.co.ke [mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke] Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:52 PM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: Re: [kictanet] Safaricom partners with KPLC to expanditsdatafootprint The African Development Bank will be laying fibre optic cables in all of its financed projects starting this year. This was announced at the Just conluded AU summit. Broadband everywhere is key to economic development. Regards Ndemo. Sent from my BlackBerryR -----Original Message----- From: "Harry Delano" <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 19:20:42 To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Safaricom partners with KPLC to expand itsdatafootprint _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: bitange@jambo.co.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke

Great news indeed - the clarification by Michael on the "open-access" nature of the KPLC dark-fibers. @Mblayo, this indeed reduces the need for me (or other Operators?) to be as "alarmed" as I was previously. walu. --- On Wed, 2/3/10, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote: From: McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Safaricom partners with KPLC to expand its datafootprint To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 12:22 AM Hi, On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Michael Joseph <MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke> wrote: KPLC invited all licensed operators to bid for the rights to access the surplus pairs in the cable. A reserve price was set for both leased and IRU models. A number of operators responded and so far only 3 have signed contracts – Safaricom, Wananchi and Jamii Telecom.   There is no exclusivity as can be seen. This is great news, thanks very much for the clarification. I wish the author of the piece had mentioned this, as well as the reserve prices, which would be useful to know. This is a more thorough treatment of the story: http://www.kbc.co.ke/story.asp?ID=62171 I do not know which operators did not bid but I do know that other operators are still in talks with KPLC. Safaricom have only taken 1 pair out of the 12 available. or 18 if you believe the above link. ;-/ -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: jwalu@yahoo.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com