Re: [kictanet] Are Social Media Accounts owned by Public Servants Public or Private?
Listers, An interesting conversation is going on on Social Media following the decision by a Cabinet Secretariat to delete his Social Media Account. In fact a Senior Counsel has already weighed in on the issue <https://twitter.com/ahmednasirlaw/status/1570270811164151813?s=48&t=CanZRu7f1CrD5Bk23aQneQ>. Is there merit in the concerns being raised or are we being petty? Thank you Best Regards -- *Barrack Otieno* *Trustee* *Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTAnet)* *Skype:barrack.otieno* *+254721325277* *https://www.linkedin.com/in/barrack-otieno-2101262b/ <https://www.linkedin.com/in/barrack-otieno-2101262b/>* *www.kictanet.or.ke <http://www.kictanet.or.ke>*
Hi Barrack, I feel we might be a bit petty because...Is it a requirement in the first place to have a personal social media account if you are holding a particular position in Govt? Lillian On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, 12:55 Barrack Otieno via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers,
An interesting conversation is going on on Social Media following the decision by a Cabinet Secretariat to delete his Social Media Account. In fact a Senior Counsel has already weighed in on the issue <https://twitter.com/ahmednasirlaw/status/1570270811164151813?s=48&t=CanZRu7f1CrD5Bk23aQneQ>. Is there merit in the concerns being raised or are we being petty?
Thank you
Best Regards
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Hi Barrack, Interesting conversation. In this context the deleted account was a personal account and not the ministry's account. As much as in they were posting day to day activities, it was a personal account and the Ministry account with previous activities and information is till active. Next question arising from the comments on the Tweet would then be, with the Twitter accounts that are public property is it right to block citizens? On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, 13:23 Watoto Watch Network via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Barrack, I feel we might be a bit petty because...Is it a requirement in the first place to have a personal social media account if you are holding a particular position in Govt?
Lillian
On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, 12:55 Barrack Otieno via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers,
An interesting conversation is going on on Social Media following the decision by a Cabinet Secretariat to delete his Social Media Account. In fact a Senior Counsel has already weighed in on the issue <https://twitter.com/ahmednasirlaw/status/1570270811164151813?s=48&t=CanZRu7f1CrD5Bk23aQneQ>. Is there merit in the concerns being raised or are we being petty?
Thank you
Best Regards
--
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Many thanks Egline, i stand to be corrected but the law views institutions as corporate citizens, i bet they have a right to block people who harass them. I wonder what the learned friends on the list would say. Regards On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 1:47 PM Egline Jeptoo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Barrack,
Interesting conversation. In this context the deleted account was a personal account and not the ministry's account. As much as in they were posting day to day activities, it was a personal account and the Ministry account with previous activities and information is till active.
Next question arising from the comments on the Tweet would then be, with the Twitter accounts that are public property is it right to block citizens?
On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, 13:23 Watoto Watch Network via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Barrack, I feel we might be a bit petty because...Is it a requirement in the first place to have a personal social media account if you are holding a particular position in Govt?
Lillian
On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, 12:55 Barrack Otieno via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers,
An interesting conversation is going on on Social Media following the decision by a Cabinet Secretariat to delete his Social Media Account. In fact a Senior Counsel has already weighed in on the issue <https://twitter.com/ahmednasirlaw/status/1570270811164151813?s=48&t=CanZRu7f1CrD5Bk23aQneQ>. Is there merit in the concerns being raised or are we being petty?
Thank you
Best Regards
--
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Dear Barrack, Define 'harass them" sometimes the same people who are accountable to the citizens have blocked people from making "hard" inquiries. I think public figures need not block people for making honest inquiries and if they amount to harassment, we have laws in place to deal with that. *Kind Regards,* *David Indeje *_____________________________________ +254 (0) 711 385 945 | +254 (0) 734 024 856 <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-indeje/> On Thu, 15 Sept 2022 at 14:30, Barrack Otieno via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Many thanks Egline, i stand to be corrected but the law views institutions as corporate citizens, i bet they have a right to block people who harass them. I wonder what the learned friends on the list would say.
Regards
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 1:47 PM Egline Jeptoo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Barrack,
Interesting conversation. In this context the deleted account was a personal account and not the ministry's account. As much as in they were posting day to day activities, it was a personal account and the Ministry account with previous activities and information is till active.
Next question arising from the comments on the Tweet would then be, with the Twitter accounts that are public property is it right to block citizens?
On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, 13:23 Watoto Watch Network via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Barrack, I feel we might be a bit petty because...Is it a requirement in the first place to have a personal social media account if you are holding a particular position in Govt?
Lillian
On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, 12:55 Barrack Otieno via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers,
An interesting conversation is going on on Social Media following the decision by a Cabinet Secretariat to delete his Social Media Account. In fact a Senior Counsel has already weighed in on the issue <https://twitter.com/ahmednasirlaw/status/1570270811164151813?s=48&t=CanZRu7f1CrD5Bk23aQneQ>. Is there merit in the concerns being raised or are we being petty?
Thank you
Best Regards
--
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Hi Barrack, This may be a great opportunity to develop policy to guide in such situations, it seems a grey area so far. Social media is here to stay and so are state officials, there may be a need to give guidelines on how state officials should manage social media presence while balancing both personal and official engagements with their audiences. It will be interesting to see how this plays out moving forward. Kind regards, Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 3:21 PM David Indeje via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Barrack,
Define 'harass them" sometimes the same people who are accountable to the citizens have blocked people from making "hard" inquiries. I think public figures need not block people for making honest inquiries and if they amount to harassment, we have laws in place to deal with that.
*Kind Regards,*
*David Indeje *_____________________________________ +254 (0) 711 385 945 | +254 (0) 734 024 856 <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-indeje/>
On Thu, 15 Sept 2022 at 14:30, Barrack Otieno via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Many thanks Egline, i stand to be corrected but the law views institutions as corporate citizens, i bet they have a right to block people who harass them. I wonder what the learned friends on the list would say.
Regards
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 1:47 PM Egline Jeptoo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Barrack,
Interesting conversation. In this context the deleted account was a personal account and not the ministry's account. As much as in they were posting day to day activities, it was a personal account and the Ministry account with previous activities and information is till active.
Next question arising from the comments on the Tweet would then be, with the Twitter accounts that are public property is it right to block citizens?
On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, 13:23 Watoto Watch Network via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Barrack, I feel we might be a bit petty because...Is it a requirement in the first place to have a personal social media account if you are holding a particular position in Govt?
Lillian
On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, 12:55 Barrack Otieno via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers,
An interesting conversation is going on on Social Media following the decision by a Cabinet Secretariat to delete his Social Media Account. In fact a Senior Counsel has already weighed in on the issue <https://twitter.com/ahmednasirlaw/status/1570270811164151813?s=48&t=CanZRu7f1CrD5Bk23aQneQ>. Is there merit in the concerns being raised or are we being petty?
Thank you
Best Regards
--
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Egline I beg to differ. It was an official account disguised as a personal account. There was NOTHING personal about what was being posted there. I say that the Government needs an OFFICIAL POLICY on these issues. We have so much to rectify. To date, we still have Cabinet Secretaries and Senior Government Officials using Gmail and yahoo email addresses. This is a bigger issue than just social media. Regards *Ali Hussein* Fintech | Digital Transformation Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim LinkedIn: Ali's Profile <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 1:32 PM Egline Jeptoo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Barrack,
Interesting conversation. In this context the deleted account was a personal account and not the ministry's account. As much as in they were posting day to day activities, it was a personal account and the Ministry account with previous activities and information is till active.
Next question arising from the comments on the Tweet would then be, with the Twitter accounts that are public property is it right to block citizens?
On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, 13:23 Watoto Watch Network via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Barrack, I feel we might be a bit petty because...Is it a requirement in the first place to have a personal social media account if you are holding a particular position in Govt?
Lillian
On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, 12:55 Barrack Otieno via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers,
An interesting conversation is going on on Social Media following the decision by a Cabinet Secretariat to delete his Social Media Account. In fact a Senior Counsel has already weighed in on the issue <https://twitter.com/ahmednasirlaw/status/1570270811164151813?s=48&t=CanZRu7f1CrD5Bk23aQneQ>. Is there merit in the concerns being raised or are we being petty?
Thank you
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Seems I may have been late to the party and started a similar thread. Please ignore. Thank you. On Fri, 16 Sept 2022, 07:05 Ali Hussein via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Egline
I beg to differ. It was an official account disguised as a personal account. There was NOTHING personal about what was being posted there.
I say that the Government needs an OFFICIAL POLICY on these issues. We have so much to rectify. To date, we still have Cabinet Secretaries and Senior Government Officials using Gmail and yahoo email addresses. This is a bigger issue than just social media.
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
Fintech | Digital Transformation
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On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 1:32 PM Egline Jeptoo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Barrack,
Interesting conversation. In this context the deleted account was a personal account and not the ministry's account. As much as in they were posting day to day activities, it was a personal account and the Ministry account with previous activities and information is till active.
Next question arising from the comments on the Tweet would then be, with the Twitter accounts that are public property is it right to block citizens?
On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, 13:23 Watoto Watch Network via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Barrack, I feel we might be a bit petty because...Is it a requirement in the first place to have a personal social media account if you are holding a particular position in Govt?
Lillian
On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, 12:55 Barrack Otieno via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers,
An interesting conversation is going on on Social Media following the decision by a Cabinet Secretariat to delete his Social Media Account. In fact a Senior Counsel has already weighed in on the issue <https://twitter.com/ahmednasirlaw/status/1570270811164151813?s=48&t=CanZRu7f1CrD5Bk23aQneQ>. Is there merit in the concerns being raised or are we being petty?
Thank you
Best Regards
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It's ok. Noted On Fri, 16 Sept 2022, 08:16 simiyu mse via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Seems I may have been late to the party and started a similar thread.
Please ignore.
Thank you.
On Fri, 16 Sept 2022, 07:05 Ali Hussein via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Egline
I beg to differ. It was an official account disguised as a personal account. There was NOTHING personal about what was being posted there.
I say that the Government needs an OFFICIAL POLICY on these issues. We have so much to rectify. To date, we still have Cabinet Secretaries and Senior Government Officials using Gmail and yahoo email addresses. This is a bigger issue than just social media.
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
Fintech | Digital Transformation
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
LinkedIn: Ali's Profile <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
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On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 1:32 PM Egline Jeptoo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Barrack,
Interesting conversation. In this context the deleted account was a personal account and not the ministry's account. As much as in they were posting day to day activities, it was a personal account and the Ministry account with previous activities and information is till active.
Next question arising from the comments on the Tweet would then be, with the Twitter accounts that are public property is it right to block citizens?
On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, 13:23 Watoto Watch Network via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Barrack, I feel we might be a bit petty because...Is it a requirement in the first place to have a personal social media account if you are holding a particular position in Govt?
Lillian
On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, 12:55 Barrack Otieno via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers,
An interesting conversation is going on on Social Media following the decision by a Cabinet Secretariat to delete his Social Media Account. In fact a Senior Counsel has already weighed in on the issue <https://twitter.com/ahmednasirlaw/status/1570270811164151813?s=48&t=CanZRu7f1CrD5Bk23aQneQ>. Is there merit in the concerns being raised or are we being petty?
Thank you
Best Regards
--
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Hi All, I wrote about this very issue in 2019 on the KICTANET website I guess you can call me a prophet of some sort 'Your tweet my Right" https://www.kictanet.or.ke/your-tweet-my-right-can-a-public-figure-block-you... . The article focused on a case in the USA where the then president Trump was taken to court for blocking someone on twitter. The courts argued that he had no right to block the person as he used his private account to relay important public messages thus by blocking the person denied them access to information. I looked at the Kenyan laws as well particularly the Constitution, the Access to Information Act Section 5 (2). I also analysed situations where public figures have blocked people on twitter or deleted their accounts in Kenya. I also looked at how different political figures use their private accounts and came to the conclusion that they use them to relay public and important messages. Lastly I also analysed how other countries have dealt with this situation particularly the USA. My conclusions were that we can borrow from the USA where political figures are required to set up public social media accounts for public matters and if they use their private ones going by the court case they are not allowed to block people and I will argue delete it. This may be seen as denying one access to information. More than happy to hear your thoughts on the article and expound the conversation further. Kind Regards Tevin Mwenda Gitonga On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 8:37 AM Neema MASITSA via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It's ok. Noted
On Fri, 16 Sept 2022, 08:16 simiyu mse via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Seems I may have been late to the party and started a similar thread.
Please ignore.
Thank you.
On Fri, 16 Sept 2022, 07:05 Ali Hussein via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Egline
I beg to differ. It was an official account disguised as a personal account. There was NOTHING personal about what was being posted there.
I say that the Government needs an OFFICIAL POLICY on these issues. We have so much to rectify. To date, we still have Cabinet Secretaries and Senior Government Officials using Gmail and yahoo email addresses. This is a bigger issue than just social media.
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
Fintech | Digital Transformation
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
LinkedIn: Ali's Profile <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
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On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 1:32 PM Egline Jeptoo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Barrack,
Interesting conversation. In this context the deleted account was a personal account and not the ministry's account. As much as in they were posting day to day activities, it was a personal account and the Ministry account with previous activities and information is till active.
Next question arising from the comments on the Tweet would then be, with the Twitter accounts that are public property is it right to block citizens?
On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, 13:23 Watoto Watch Network via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Barrack, I feel we might be a bit petty because...Is it a requirement in the first place to have a personal social media account if you are holding a particular position in Govt?
Lillian
On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, 12:55 Barrack Otieno via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers,
An interesting conversation is going on on Social Media following the decision by a Cabinet Secretariat to delete his Social Media Account. In fact a Senior Counsel has already weighed in on the issue <https://twitter.com/ahmednasirlaw/status/1570270811164151813?s=48&t=CanZRu7f1CrD5Bk23aQneQ>. Is there merit in the concerns being raised or are we being petty?
Thank you
Best Regards
--
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Hi Tevin, Your proposals are on point. The least we can do is document this ideas for the incoming CS to hopefully champion the changes. I recall during the Kenya Internet Governance feedback that Government officers will now be compelled to use .Ke on all their official communication. Not sure if this directive covers our concerns as well but we hope for the best. Best Regards On Fri, 16 Sept 2022, 9:48 am tevin mwenda via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi All,
I wrote about this very issue in 2019 on the KICTANET website I guess you can call me a prophet of some sort 'Your tweet my Right" https://www.kictanet.or.ke/your-tweet-my-right-can-a-public-figure-block-you... .
The article focused on a case in the USA where the then president Trump was taken to court for blocking someone on twitter. The courts argued that he had no right to block the person as he used his private account to relay important public messages thus by blocking the person denied them access to information.
I looked at the Kenyan laws as well particularly the Constitution, the Access to Information Act Section 5 (2). I also analysed situations where public figures have blocked people on twitter or deleted their accounts in Kenya. I also looked at how different political figures use their private accounts and came to the conclusion that they use them to relay public and important messages. Lastly I also analysed how other countries have dealt with this situation particularly the USA.
My conclusions were that we can borrow from the USA where political figures are required to set up public social media accounts for public matters and if they use their private ones going by the court case they are not allowed to block people and I will argue delete it. This may be seen as denying one access to information.
More than happy to hear your thoughts on the article and expound the conversation further.
Kind Regards
Tevin Mwenda Gitonga
On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 8:37 AM Neema MASITSA via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It's ok. Noted
On Fri, 16 Sept 2022, 08:16 simiyu mse via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Seems I may have been late to the party and started a similar thread.
Please ignore.
Thank you.
On Fri, 16 Sept 2022, 07:05 Ali Hussein via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Egline
I beg to differ. It was an official account disguised as a personal account. There was NOTHING personal about what was being posted there.
I say that the Government needs an OFFICIAL POLICY on these issues. We have so much to rectify. To date, we still have Cabinet Secretaries and Senior Government Officials using Gmail and yahoo email addresses. This is a bigger issue than just social media.
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On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 1:32 PM Egline Jeptoo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Barrack,
Interesting conversation. In this context the deleted account was a personal account and not the ministry's account. As much as in they were posting day to day activities, it was a personal account and the Ministry account with previous activities and information is till active.
Next question arising from the comments on the Tweet would then be, with the Twitter accounts that are public property is it right to block citizens?
On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, 13:23 Watoto Watch Network via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Barrack, I feel we might be a bit petty because...Is it a requirement in the first place to have a personal social media account if you are holding a particular position in Govt?
Lillian
On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, 12:55 Barrack Otieno via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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Prophet Tevin 😅 Asante kaka! Spot on! *Ali Hussein* Fintech | Digital Transformation Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim LinkedIn: Ali's Profile <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 9:48 AM tevin mwenda via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi All,
I wrote about this very issue in 2019 on the KICTANET website I guess you can call me a prophet of some sort 'Your tweet my Right" https://www.kictanet.or.ke/your-tweet-my-right-can-a-public-figure-block-you... .
The article focused on a case in the USA where the then president Trump was taken to court for blocking someone on twitter. The courts argued that he had no right to block the person as he used his private account to relay important public messages thus by blocking the person denied them access to information.
I looked at the Kenyan laws as well particularly the Constitution, the Access to Information Act Section 5 (2). I also analysed situations where public figures have blocked people on twitter or deleted their accounts in Kenya. I also looked at how different political figures use their private accounts and came to the conclusion that they use them to relay public and important messages. Lastly I also analysed how other countries have dealt with this situation particularly the USA.
My conclusions were that we can borrow from the USA where political figures are required to set up public social media accounts for public matters and if they use their private ones going by the court case they are not allowed to block people and I will argue delete it. This may be seen as denying one access to information.
More than happy to hear your thoughts on the article and expound the conversation further.
Kind Regards
Tevin Mwenda Gitonga
On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 8:37 AM Neema MASITSA via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It's ok. Noted
On Fri, 16 Sept 2022, 08:16 simiyu mse via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Seems I may have been late to the party and started a similar thread.
Please ignore.
Thank you.
On Fri, 16 Sept 2022, 07:05 Ali Hussein via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Egline
I beg to differ. It was an official account disguised as a personal account. There was NOTHING personal about what was being posted there.
I say that the Government needs an OFFICIAL POLICY on these issues. We have so much to rectify. To date, we still have Cabinet Secretaries and Senior Government Officials using Gmail and yahoo email addresses. This is a bigger issue than just social media.
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
Fintech | Digital Transformation
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On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 1:32 PM Egline Jeptoo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Barrack,
Interesting conversation. In this context the deleted account was a personal account and not the ministry's account. As much as in they were posting day to day activities, it was a personal account and the Ministry account with previous activities and information is till active.
Next question arising from the comments on the Tweet would then be, with the Twitter accounts that are public property is it right to block citizens?
On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, 13:23 Watoto Watch Network via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Barrack, I feel we might be a bit petty because...Is it a requirement in the first place to have a personal social media account if you are holding a particular position in Govt?
Lillian
On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, 12:55 Barrack Otieno via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> Listers, > > An interesting conversation is going on on Social Media following > the decision by a Cabinet Secretariat to delete his Social Media Account. > In fact a Senior Counsel has already weighed in on the issue > <https://twitter.com/ahmednasirlaw/status/1570270811164151813?s=48&t=CanZRu7f1CrD5Bk23aQneQ>. > Is there merit in the concerns being raised or are we being petty? > > Thank you > > Best Regards > > > > -- > > *Barrack Otieno* > *Trustee* > *Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTAnet)* > *Skype:barrack.otieno* > *+254721325277* > > *https://www.linkedin.com/in/barrack-otieno-2101262b/ > <https://www.linkedin.com/in/barrack-otieno-2101262b/>* > *www.kictanet.or.ke <http://www.kictanet.or.ke>* > _______________________________________________ > KICTANet mailing list > KICTANet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Twitter: https://twitter.com/KICTANet/ > Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ > Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/KICTANet/ > LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/18428106/admin/ > YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbcLVjnPtTGBEeYLGUb2Yow/ > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/lillian%40watotowatchn... > > > KICTANet is a multi-stakeholder Think Tank for people and > institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. KICTANet > is a catalyst for reform in the Information and Communication Technology > sector. Its work is guided by four pillars of Policy Advocacy, Capacity > Building, Research, and Stakeholder Engagement. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable > behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and > bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect > privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > KICTANet - The Power of Communities, is Kenya's premier ICT policy > engagement platform. > _______________________________________________ KICTANet mailing list KICTANet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet
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Well, it comes down to IT policies or their absence. There should be official accounts for communication which are inherited by new office bearers for continuity and consistency. The practice seems like office bearers create accounts they use for official communication and which they decommission upon leaving office. Since this is official communication, data retention policy should apply for the period of time required by law. On Fri, Sep 16, 2022, 6:00 PM Ali Hussein via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Prophet Tevin 😅
Asante kaka! Spot on!
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On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 9:48 AM tevin mwenda via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi All,
I wrote about this very issue in 2019 on the KICTANET website I guess you can call me a prophet of some sort 'Your tweet my Right" https://www.kictanet.or.ke/your-tweet-my-right-can-a-public-figure-block-you... .
The article focused on a case in the USA where the then president Trump was taken to court for blocking someone on twitter. The courts argued that he had no right to block the person as he used his private account to relay important public messages thus by blocking the person denied them access to information.
I looked at the Kenyan laws as well particularly the Constitution, the Access to Information Act Section 5 (2). I also analysed situations where public figures have blocked people on twitter or deleted their accounts in Kenya. I also looked at how different political figures use their private accounts and came to the conclusion that they use them to relay public and important messages. Lastly I also analysed how other countries have dealt with this situation particularly the USA.
My conclusions were that we can borrow from the USA where political figures are required to set up public social media accounts for public matters and if they use their private ones going by the court case they are not allowed to block people and I will argue delete it. This may be seen as denying one access to information.
More than happy to hear your thoughts on the article and expound the conversation further.
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On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 8:37 AM Neema MASITSA via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It's ok. Noted
On Fri, 16 Sept 2022, 08:16 simiyu mse via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Seems I may have been late to the party and started a similar thread.
Please ignore.
Thank you.
On Fri, 16 Sept 2022, 07:05 Ali Hussein via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Egline
I beg to differ. It was an official account disguised as a personal account. There was NOTHING personal about what was being posted there.
I say that the Government needs an OFFICIAL POLICY on these issues. We have so much to rectify. To date, we still have Cabinet Secretaries and Senior Government Officials using Gmail and yahoo email addresses. This is a bigger issue than just social media.
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On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 1:32 PM Egline Jeptoo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Barrack,
Interesting conversation. In this context the deleted account was a personal account and not the ministry's account. As much as in they were posting day to day activities, it was a personal account and the Ministry account with previous activities and information is till active.
Next question arising from the comments on the Tweet would then be, with the Twitter accounts that are public property is it right to block citizens?
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https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/sports/amp/financial-standard/2001358211/sta... Following the above, my sentiments are that unless he used his social media account as an avenue to relay important information of the ministry he was in, he should have the freedom to choose whether to have his personal social media account operational or not. On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, 12:55 Barrack Otieno via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers,
An interesting conversation is going on on Social Media following the decision by a Cabinet Secretariat to delete his Social Media Account. In fact a Senior Counsel has already weighed in on the issue <https://twitter.com/ahmednasirlaw/status/1570270811164151813?s=48&t=CanZRu7f1CrD5Bk23aQneQ>. Is there merit in the concerns being raised or are we being petty?
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If the account is CSInterior or whatever equivalent then it belongs to the office and not the individual should be treated as such. If the occupant tweets using their personal account that is a different matter On Thu, 15 Sep 2022 at 13:00, Barrack Otieno via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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An interesting conversation is going on on Social Media following the decision by a Cabinet Secretariat to delete his Social Media Account. In fact a Senior Counsel has already weighed in on the issue <https://twitter.com/ahmednasirlaw/status/1570270811164151813?s=48&t=CanZRu7f1CrD5Bk23aQneQ>. Is there merit in the concerns being raised or are we being petty?
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participants (13)
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Ali Hussein -
Barrack Otieno -
Barrack Otieno -
David Indeje -
Egline Jeptoo -
Johnsey Kivoto -
Linda Wairure -
Neema MASITSA -
Rad! -
Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu -
simiyu mse -
tevin mwenda -
Watoto Watch Network