Sometimes all we have to do is look at the past to inform future actions. The Clinton administration and e-commerce I take the example of e-commerce in the late 1990s and early 2000s, which the Clinton administration sought to frame through policy. Ira Magaziner, a senior advisor for policy development at the White House during the Clinton presidency, headed up the effort to provide an institutional framework in which the nascent e-commerce industry could grow. There are five main principles that were espoused through this work: 1. The private sector should lead. 2. Governments should avoid undue restrictions on electronic commerce. 3. Where governmental involvement is needed, its aim should be to support and enforce a predictable, minimalist, consistent, and simple legal environment for commerce. 4. Government should recognize the unique qualities of the internet. 5. Electronic commerce over the internet should be facilitated on a global basis This is a highly relevant instance of regulatory intervention, which may prove helpful to those tasked with supervising the large-scale implementation of future ICT actions. At the heart of these principles is an understanding that e-commerce is a dynamic, decentralized medium, which requires a global response, and that the role of regulators should be to act in a supportive and transparent way. So its no wonder the Googles, Facebook were born.. KRs, Eric On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 12:34 PM, awatila--- via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

See enclosed.

Submission of views have been invited.

Will kictanet make any formal submission to the departmental committee working on the bill

Regards,

Sent from Samsung tablet On Jul 6, 2016 3:47 PM, Alex Watila <awatila@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Thanks Walu,

What is the way forward on the bill?

Regards,

Alex

*From:* Walubengo J [mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 6, 2016 3:26 PM *To:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Cc:* Dennis Muthuri <muthuridennis@gmail.com>; Alex Watila < awatila@yahoo.co.uk> *Subject:* Kenya ICT Practitioners Bill - Walu's Views

@Alex, @Muthuri,

Thnx for 'bursting' me @

http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2305252/-/1208fk...

It does seem the Internet does not forget :-)

Anyway, I still stand by those earlier views. That the ICT professionals should be better organized and speak with one strong voice in order to guide the nation in prosperous and in difficult moments. And that an Act of Parliament would go a long way in ensuring that such a voice is grounded in legislation and therefore cannot be wished away by current or future governments.

However, what I do not agree with is the way such an important bill may have gone 'below the radar' - all the way to the 1st reading. Without most people being aware of it, let alone having a chance to contribute and shape it.

In short, I have always appreciated the problem, but I do not necessarily agree with solutions (contents of the proposed bill), least of all the 'modus-operandi' methods applied to push it through.

So there you have it :-)

walu.

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*From:* Dennis Muthuri via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *To:* jwalu@yahoo.com *Cc:* Dennis Muthuri <muthuridennis@gmail.com>; Alex Watila < awatila@yahoo.co.uk>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 6, 2016 2:37 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Draft National ICTPolicy:-End of Online Discussions

Thanks Alex,

I’d like to hear bwana Walu’s views. This is dialogue after all and not a witch hunt. All of us want the best way forward for all stakeholders at the end of the day.

Regards

On 6 Jul 2016, at 2:17 PM, Harry <harry26001@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey Alex,

Bwana Walu seems to have ducked "under" on this one, though my sentiment would be that, his oped at the time seemed to lean more on how to give the ICT fraternity a voice through representation at the national stage than what we seeing now with the proposed bill that seems to weigh in more on regulatory policing. Given the multifaceted nature of the ICT space, the worst the proponents can do is to sneak in such proposed regulatory frameworks without as much as subjecting the same to wide multistakeholder input. This could be counter productive, and in fact threatens to stifle the very space that opened up, got liberalized and has thrived for almost 14years and which, has been a catalyst and testament to some of the amazing innovative achievements and growth to date in this sector.

So again, just like the wifi surveillance bill who initiated this..? Where was the consultative engagement..?

Harry

On Jul 6, 2016 11:47 AM, Alex Watila <awatila@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Walu, Do you need to defend yourself?

http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2305252/-/1208fk...

Regards,

Alex

-----Original Message----- From: Alex Watila [mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk <awatila@yahoo.co.uk>] Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2016 11:31 AM To: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: 'Harry' <harry26001@gmail.com>; 'Dennis Muthuri' < muthuridennis@gmail.com> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Draft National ICTPolicy:-End of Online Discussions

Dear All, I think the two issues are related since "to enforce government policies, governments make laws and then enforce the laws."

It would be strange to be discussing a policy while another one seems to be in the process of being given legal authority.

Regards,

Alex https://twitter.com/hashtag/KillTheICTBill?src=hash

-----Original Message----- From: kictanet [ mailto:kictanet-bounces+awatila=yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke <kictanet-bounces+awatila=yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke>] On Behalf Of Harry via kictanet Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2016 11:14 AM To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Harry <harry26001@gmail.com>; Dennis Muthuri <muthuridennis@gmail.com>

Subject: Re: [kictanet] Draft National ICTPolicy:-End of Online Discussions

Hey Dennis,

Welcome on board..!

The Draft National ICT policy, (a review of the last one formulated in 2006) has been under discussion for the past abt 10 days on the forum. You can familiarize yourself with the just ended great debate at www.kitanet.or.ke, under the corresponding link headings.

Walu, just wondering whether this can be extended to allow Listers ventilate on the ICT practitioners bill currently trending exhaustively probably as an issue to be incorporated in the draft policy discussion, as opposed to treating it as a separate issue. As many as are of a similar opinion, say 'aye'..

Harry

On Jul 6, 2016 10:36 AM, Dennis Muthuri via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Hi Hary,

Kindly bring me up to speed with the draft that you are talking about, I joined this mailing list a day ago so I don’t have much context into the matter.

Thanks.

Dennis

On 6 Jul 2016, at 10:33 AM, kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke wrote:

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Listers Thank you for your comments on the pertinent debate of the ICT Practitioners Bill. In addition to other processes, we consolidated your comments into a memorandum (attached) and submitted to the Parliamentary Energy and ICT committee pursuant to their call for comments. In sum, some of the sticking points are as follows: a) Objective of the Bill: The Bill will achieve more harm than good for the ICT industry. b) There was not adequate Public Participation in development of the Bill, yet the ICT sector has a history of consultations in development of laws and policies for the sector. c) The Bill is In congruent with other laws and policies in the sector. d) The Bill would be impractical to implement. e) The Bill has many incoherent provisions. f) The Bill stifles Innovation. g) There is an ongoing Policy Review process spearheaded by the Ministry of ICT and legislation affecting the industry should come after the policy process. h) The ICT community had identified priorities such as a Data Protection framework and a Cyber Security framework as priority areas for legislative intervention. i) The Bill will create hurdles for youth in the ICT sector by creating a mandatory registration regime. j) The Bill overrates university education, which most of the youth in the sector do not have although they have other ICT skills and competencies, acquired through self learning and certification etc. k) The Bill is not in line with global practices and policies on ICT human resource management and will for instance inhibit movement of labour in the sector in the East African Community. It is for the foregoing reasons that we pray, that the Bill be withdrawn to allow for proper consultations among stakeholders and completion of the ongoing Kenya ICT policy review process. Attached please find a memorandum opposing the Bill. Rgds Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 14:34:34 +0300 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya ICT Practitioners Bill - Walu's Views From: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke CC: awatila@yahoo.co.uk; muthuridennis@gmail.com To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com See enclosed. Submission of views have been invited. Will kictanet make any formal submission to the departmental committee working on the bill Regards, Sent from Samsung tablet On Jul 6, 2016 3:47 PM, Alex Watila <awatila@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Thanks Walu, What is the way forward on the bill? Regards, Alex