On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service
Re: How To Revive Postal Service Amenya You are living in the past. Postal services worldwide are declining and only those with futuristic leadership will enable their corporations adopt. Part of the reason is the growth of electronic communications (fast, reliable, etc.) and competition from other carriers: courier companies, etc (in fact in Kenya bus companies deliver parcels more reliably than Posta) and more. In the advanced western economies, futuristic postal corporations have created virtual mailboxes for almost entire populations. Here one gets their bills, statements, etc electronically; documents that can be accessed via a secure web portal. Smart phone growth has been a key enabler of such services, which allow you to scan your documents, pay your bills, etc. Two years ago we approached PCK on a similar approach. The idea was for us to help them craft a strategy to position themselves for survival in the future. Much of our strategy is based on use of technology, taking advantage of their reach across the country, agency banking, etc. Our good general looked at us without betraying a sense of whether he understood what we were saying or not. He dispatched us to the ICT department, composed of very good knowledgeable people working under very difficult circumstances. Long story short: we hit a brick wall. The PCK leadership is archaic, doesn't understand business. Most of them have the civil service mentality .... hang your coat, go roast meat/check how your matatu is doing, come back 3-4 hours later, review one file, go home and for sure there will be a pay cheque at the end of the month! Zip productivity! I could write tons about the unrealized PCK potential but let that be for another day! In the meantime you may wish to check the story of PostaPay which was supposed to compete with MoneyGram and Western Union in international money transfer business! We launched this with pomp ... a few years later, the same people with who we were singing songs of patriotism, were in the dock for embezzlement. Remember the recent article I shared on why Africa lags the Asian Tigers: we eat it all! Matunda Nyanchama --- In NewVisionKenya@yahoogroups.com, amenya gibson <g_amenya2000@...> wrote:
I think Kenyans we can make Kenya great when we join hands and walk together unlike Hon Mudavadi who said he shall never walk alone yet he decamped from a party that uplifted him from political oblivions when Akaranga fried him in 2002 elections ,A conflict statement.
Back to my little thinking.
I have been reasoning that since we are gearing towards an elections
2013 why can the MPs pass a law that requires all parties to send
respective partymanifestos through post offices to Kenyans and also via parcel firms.?
This will see a boost in revenues collections both direct and indirect and KRA will have enough avenue to collect taxes to pay teachers ,soldiers etc.
Postal Corporation will see demand for its stamps go up ,their rental boxes will be active and also we shall see an increased parcels movements with other private firms like G4S,Wells Fargo and many more.
So as Kenyans let us demand all parties to send their manifestos via registered firms and this will see an increased economic activities because when this is done ,printing firms will have business,they will hire
in their people
,hence helping reduction of unemployment in Kenya.
It can be done let nobody tell me that democracy is suppose to be affordable hence they party manifestos should be distributed freely.
Kenyans must come up with simple ideas that will help our GDP uptick.
They say we lose Ksh 3.4 B through corruptions and other panya routes what if we sealed those loopholes then we shall have more money said to have parties pay for postal services so that their supporters can get the manifestos in their mail boxes.
-- Thanks Gibson Amenya Level Moja Solutions Skype amenya.gibson http://levelmojafinancials.kbo.co.ke
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation…" - Anonymous ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you.
If we stay the course we’ll achieve something- unfortunately we never do. I believe a while back in this very same forum there was a wealthy discussion on how to turn around PCK and even one members had championed to be elected PMG, those ideas are now archives credit to our short-term memory! Brilliant discussions and no action is just as bad as shutting up and putting up with the status quo….and I am almost certain that the concerned parties who form the bulk of this forum’s “lurkers” are all smiles because they are certain that no matter how loud we whine, being Kenyan, nothing is going to happen. Edwin From: kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Matunda Nyanchama Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:44 PM To: Edwin Cc: BPO Kenya; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service Re: How To Revive Postal Service Amenya You are living in the past. Postal services worldwide are declining and only those with futuristic leadership will enable their corporations adopt. Part of the reason is the growth of electronic communications (fast, reliable, etc.) and competition from other carriers: courier companies, etc (in fact in Kenya bus companies deliver parcels more reliably than Posta) and more. In the advanced western economies, futuristic postal corporations have created virtual mailboxes for almost entire populations. Here one gets their bills, statements, etc electronically; documents that can be accessed via a secure web portal. Smart phone growth has been a key enabler of such services, which allow you to scan your documents, pay your bills, etc. Two years ago we approached PCK on a similar approach. The idea was for us to help them craft a strategy to position themselves for survival in the future. Much of our strategy is based on use of technology, taking advantage of their reach across the country, agency banking, etc. Our good general looked at us without betraying a sense of whether he understood what we were saying or not. He dispatched us to the ICT department, composed of very good knowledgeable people working under very difficult circumstances. Long story short: we hit a brick wall. The PCK leadership is archaic, doesn't understand business. Most of them have the civil service mentality .... hang your coat, go roast meat/check how your matatu is doing, come back 3-4 hours later, review one file, go home and for sure there will be a pay cheque at the end of the month! Zip productivity! I could write tons about the unrealized PCK potential but let that be for another day! In the meantime you may wish to check the story of PostaPay which was supposed to compete with MoneyGram and Western Union in international money transfer business! We launched this with pomp ... a few years later, the same people with who we were singing songs of patriotism, were in the dock for embezzlement. Remember the recent article I shared on why Africa lags the Asian Tigers: we eat it all! Matunda Nyanchama --- In NewVisionKenya@yahoogroups.com <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NewVisionKenya/post?postID=CcGPYeVI9HzWNy57c5oA7S80m4uc3mQvsODMNg6BgBmqWNODQm3FjL71SDYoaZYUE9QVPvWaFwdQy6O-R2G7sWP25xer> , amenya gibson <g_amenya2000@...> wrote:
I think Kenyans we can make Kenya great when we join hands and walk together unlike Hon Mudavadi who said he shall never walk alone yet he decamped from a party that uplifted him from political oblivions when Akaranga fried him in 2002 elections ,A conflict statement.
Back to my little thinking.
I have been reasoning that since we are gearing towards an elections
2013 why can the MPs pass a law that requires all parties to send
respective partymanifestos through post offices to Kenyans and also via parcel firms.?
This will see a boost in revenues collections both direct and indirect and KRA will have enough avenue to collect taxes to pay teachers ,soldiers etc.
Postal Corporation will see demand for its stamps go up ,their rental boxes will be active and also we shall see an increased parcels movements with other private firms like G4S,Wells Fargo and many more.
So as Kenyans let us demand all parties to send their manifestos via registered firms and this will see an increased economic activities because when this is done ,printing firms will have business,they will hire
in their people
,hence helping reduction of unemployment in Kenya.
It can be done let nobody tell me that democracy is suppose to be affordable hence they party manifestos should be distributed freely.
Kenyans must come up with simple ideas that will help our GDP uptick.
They say we lose Ksh 3.4 B through corruptions and other panya routes what if we sealed those loopholes then we shall have more money said to have parties pay for postal services so that their supporters can get the manifestos in their mail boxes.
-- Thanks Gibson Amenya Level Moja Solutions Skype amenya.gibson http://levelmojafinancials.kbo.co.ke <http://levelmojafinancials.kbo.co.ke/>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: <http://twitter.com/#%21/nmatunda> nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation…" - Anonymous ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you. _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4956 - Release Date: 04/24/12
Edwin The Summit Strategies report shared with us here recently made some very pertinent recommendations. I think KICTAnet has a real opportunity if it transforms itself as per recommendations. The forum would remain as a means of information sharing. It is also in line with previous discussions regarding creation of a ICT industry body with focus on technology policy, advocacy (?), etc on behalf of the industry; a kind of KEPSA with focus on technology. Someone may ask why not play within KEPSA? My answer: ICT is so core to the national economy and large enough to warrant such a body. This is what Canada (the market I am most familiar with) has with what is called Canadian Technology Alliance (CATA). I know funding would be an issue, especially at the teething stages. And one proposal would be for GoK to offer seed money and funding for a period (say 3~5 years) within which the body would have established long-term financing. And with proper governance, we can then hold those that lead the organization to account. It would give Harry Hare's ideas some landing patch and chance for implementation. Have a good day. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation…" - Anonymous ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you. ________________________________ From: Edwin Onchari <eonchari@lynxbits.com> To: 'Matunda Nyanchama' <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> Cc: 'BPO Kenya' <bpokenya@egroups.com>; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 3:17 AM Subject: RE: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service If we stay the course we’ll achieve something- unfortunately we never do. I believe a while back in this very same forum there was a wealthy discussion on how to turn around PCK and even one members had championed to be elected PMG, those ideas are now archives credit to our short-term memory! Brilliant discussions and no action is just as bad as shutting up and putting up with the status quo….and I am almost certain that the concerned parties who form the bulk of this forum’s “lurkers” are all smiles because they are certain that no matter how loud we whine, being Kenyan, nothing is going to happen. Edwin From:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Matunda Nyanchama Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:44 PM To: Edwin Cc: BPO Kenya; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service Re: How To Revive Postal Service Amenya You are living in the past. Postal services worldwide are declining and only those with futuristic leadership will enable their corporations adopt. Part of the reason is the growth of electronic communications (fast, reliable, etc.) and competition from other carriers: courier companies, etc (in fact in Kenya bus companies deliver parcels more reliably than Posta) and more. In the advanced western economies, futuristic postal corporations have created virtual mailboxes for almost entire populations. Here one gets their bills, statements, etc electronically; documents that can be accessed via a secure web portal. Smart phone growth has been a key enabler of such services, which allow you to scan your documents, pay your bills, etc. Two years ago we approached PCK on a similar approach. The idea was for us to help them craft a strategy to position themselves for survival in the future. Much of our strategy is based on use of technology, taking advantage of their reach across the country, agency banking, etc. Our good general looked at us without betraying a sense of whether he understood what we were saying or not. He dispatched us to the ICT department, composed of very good knowledgeable people working under very difficult circumstances. Long story short: we hit a brick wall. The PCK leadership is archaic, doesn't understand business. Most of them have the civil service mentality .... hang your coat, go roast meat/check how your matatu is doing, come back 3-4 hours later, review one file, go home and for sure there will be a pay cheque at the end of the month! Zip productivity! I could write tons about the unrealized PCK potential but let that be for another day! In the meantime you may wish to check the story of PostaPay which was supposed to compete with MoneyGram and Western Union in international money transfer business! We launched this with pomp ... a few years later, the same people with who we were singing songs of patriotism, were in the dock for embezzlement. Remember the recent article I shared on why Africa lags the Asian Tigers: we eat it all! Matunda Nyanchama --- In NewVisionKenya@yahoogroups.com, amenya gibson <g_amenya2000@...> wrote:
I think Kenyans we can make Kenya great when we join hands and walk together unlike Hon Mudavadi who said he shall never walk alone yet he decamped from a party that uplifted him from political oblivions when Akaranga fried him in 2002 elections ,A conflict statement.
Back to my little thinking.
I have been reasoning that since we are gearing towards an elections
2013 why can the MPs pass a law that requires all parties to send
respective partymanifestos through post offices to Kenyans and also via parcel firms.?
This will see a boost in revenues collections both direct and indirect and KRA will have enough avenue to collect taxes to pay teachers ,soldiers etc.
Postal Corporation will see demand for its stamps go up ,their rental boxes will be active and also we shall see an increased parcels movements with other private firms like G4S,Wells Fargo and many more.
So as Kenyans let us demand all parties to send their manifestos via registered firms and this will see an increased economic activities because when this is done ,printing firms will have business,they will hire
in their people
,hence helping reduction of unemployment in Kenya.
It can be done let nobody tell me that democracy is suppose to be affordable hence they party manifestos should be distributed freely.
Kenyans must come up with simple ideas that will help our GDP uptick.
They say we lose Ksh 3.4 B through corruptions and other panya routes what if we sealed those loopholes then we shall have more money said to have parties pay for postal services so that their supporters can get the manifestos in their mail boxes.
-- Thanks Gibson Amenya Level Moja Solutions Skype amenya.gibson http://levelmojafinancials.kbo.co.ke
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation…" - Anonymous ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you. ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4956 - Release Date: 04/24/12
Daktari, I believe there is an ICT arm in KEPSA called KIF (Kenya ICT Federation)? This, or CSK, is the body that needs to be reformed so that it takes everybody on board, and then KICKTANet can remain as a networking forum, maybe within the bigger body or something like that. Just my thoughts. Evans On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Matunda Nyanchama < mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> wrote:
Edwin
The Summit Strategies report shared with us here recently made some very pertinent recommendations. I think KICTAnet has a real opportunity if it transforms itself as per recommendations. The forum would remain as a means of information sharing.
It is also in line with previous discussions regarding creation of a ICT industry body with focus on technology policy, advocacy (?), etc on behalf of the industry; a kind of KEPSA with focus on technology. Someone may ask why not play within KEPSA? My answer: ICT is so core to the national economy and large enough to warrant such a body. This is what Canada (the market I am most familiar with) has with what is called Canadian Technology Alliance (CATA).
I know funding would be an issue, especially at the teething stages. And one proposal would be for GoK to offer seed money and funding for a period (say 3~5 years) within which the body would have established long-term financing.
And with proper governance, we can then hold those that lead the organization to account. It would give Harry Hare's ideas some landing patch and chance for implementation.
Have a good day.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda; <http://twitter.com/#%21/nmatunda>Skype: okiambe
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com * ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** "A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation…" - Anonymous
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------------------------------ *From:* Edwin Onchari <eonchari@lynxbits.com> *To:* 'Matunda Nyanchama' <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> *Cc:* 'BPO Kenya' <bpokenya@egroups.com>; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 25, 2012 3:17 AM *Subject:* RE: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service
If we stay the course we’ll achieve something- unfortunately we never do. I believe a while back in this very same forum there was a wealthy discussion on how to turn around PCK and even one members had championed to be elected PMG, those ideas are now archives credit to our short-term memory! Brilliant discussions and no action is just as bad as shutting up and putting up with the status quo….and I am almost certain that the concerned parties who form the bulk of this forum’s “lurkers” are all smiles because they are certain that no matter how loud we whine, being Kenyan, nothing is going to happen.
Edwin *From:* kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke[mailto: kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Matunda Nyanchama *Sent:* Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:44 PM *To:* Edwin *Cc:* BPO Kenya; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service
Re: How To Revive Postal Service
Amenya
You are living in the past.
Postal services worldwide are declining and only those with futuristic leadership will enable their corporations adopt. Part of the reason is the growth of electronic communications (fast, reliable, etc.) and competition from other carriers: courier companies, etc (in fact in Kenya bus companies deliver parcels more reliably than Posta) and more.
In the advanced western economies, futuristic postal corporations have created virtual mailboxes for almost entire populations. Here one gets their bills, statements, etc electronically; documents that can be accessed via a secure web portal. Smart phone growth has been a key enabler of such services, which allow you to scan your documents, pay your bills, etc.
Two years ago we approached PCK on a similar approach. The idea was for us to help them craft a strategy to position themselves for survival in the future. Much of our strategy is based on use of technology, taking advantage of their reach across the country, agency banking, etc.
Our good general looked at us without betraying a sense of whether he understood what we were saying or not. He dispatched us to the ICT department, composed of very good knowledgeable people working under very difficult circumstances.
Long story short: we hit a brick wall.
The PCK leadership is archaic, doesn't understand business. Most of them have the civil service mentality .... hang your coat, go roast meat/check how your matatu is doing, come back 3-4 hours later, review one file, go home and for sure there will be a pay cheque at the end of the month!
Zip productivity!
I could write tons about the unrealized PCK potential but let that be for another day!
In the meantime you may wish to check the story of PostaPay which was supposed to compete with MoneyGram and Western Union in international money transfer business! We launched this with pomp ... a few years later, the same people with who we were singing songs of patriotism, were in the dock for embezzlement.
Remember the recent article I shared on why Africa lags the Asian Tigers: we eat it all!
Matunda Nyanchama
--- In NewVisionKenya@yahoogroups.com<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NewVisionKenya/post?postID=CcGPYeVI9HzWNy57c5oA7S80m4uc3mQvsODMNg6BgBmqWNODQm3FjL71SDYoaZYUE9QVPvWaFwdQy6O-R2G7sWP25xer>, amenya gibson <g_amenya2000@...> wrote:
I think Kenyans we can make Kenya great when we join hands and walk together unlike Hon Mudavadi who said he shall never walk alone yet he decamped from a party that uplifted him from political oblivions when Akaranga fried him in 2002 elections ,A conflict statement.
Back to my little thinking.
I have been reasoning that since we are gearing towards an elections
2013 why can the MPs pass a law that requires all parties to send
respective partymanifestos through post offices to Kenyans and also via parcel firms.?
This will see a boost in revenues collections both direct and indirect and KRA will have enough avenue to collect taxes to pay teachers ,soldiers etc.
Postal Corporation will see demand for its stamps go up ,their rental boxes will be active and also we shall see an increased parcels movements with other private firms like G4S,Wells Fargo and many more.
So as Kenyans let us demand all parties to send their manifestos via registered firms and this will see an increased economic activities because when this is done ,printing firms will have business,they will hire
in their people
,hence helping reduction of unemployment in Kenya.
It can be done let nobody tell me that democracy is suppose to be affordable hence they party manifestos should be distributed freely.
Kenyans must come up with simple ideas that will help our GDP uptick.
They say we lose Ksh 3.4 B through corruptions and other panya routes what if we sealed those loopholes then we shall have more money said to have parties pay for postal services so that their supporters can get the manifestos in their mail boxes.
-- Thanks Gibson Amenya Level Moja Solutions Skype amenya.gibson http://levelmojafinancials.kbo.co.ke
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda; <http://twitter.com/#%21/nmatunda>Skype: okiambe
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com * ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
*"A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation…" - Anonymous*
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Evans I don't hear much from CSK nor from KIF; and perhaps those need to be strengthened. However, as I have said, ICT is such a crucial sector it needs its own industry-related body to ensure appropriate level of focus. And what you say be me the way to go. However, (and I am not sure this hasn't taken place) there is a need for adoption (or otherwise) of the report and its recommendations. Secondly, there needs to be way of seamlessly linking recommendations/suggestions/actions/etc floated and adopted here to implementation, be it via KIF, CSK, or a transformed KICTanet. Shukrani. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation…" - Anonymous ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you. ________________________________ From: Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com> To: Matunda Nyanchama <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; BPO Kenya <bpokenya@egroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service Daktari, I believe there is an ICT arm in KEPSA called KIF (Kenya ICT Federation)? This, or CSK, is the body that needs to be reformed so that it takes everybody on board, and then KICKTANet can remain as a networking forum, maybe within the bigger body or something like that. Just my thoughts. Evans On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Matunda Nyanchama <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> wrote: Edwin
The Summit Strategies report shared with us here recently made some very pertinent recommendations. I think KICTAnet has a real opportunity if it transforms itself as per recommendations. The forum would remain as a means of information sharing.
It is also in line with previous discussions regarding creation of a ICT industry body with focus on technology policy, advocacy (?), etc on behalf of the industry; a kind of KEPSA with focus on technology. Someone may ask why not play within KEPSA? My answer: ICT is so core to the national economy and large enough to warrant such a body. This is what Canada (the market I am most familiar with) has with what is called Canadian Technology Alliance (CATA).
I know funding would be an issue, especially at the teething stages. And one proposal would be for GoK to offer seed money and funding for a period (say 3~5 years) within which the body would have established long-term financing.
And with proper governance, we can then hold those that lead the organization to account. It would give Harry Hare's ideas some landing patch and chance for implementation.
Have a good day. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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________________________________ From: Edwin Onchari <eonchari@lynxbits.com> To: 'Matunda Nyanchama' <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> Cc: 'BPO Kenya' <bpokenya@egroups.com>; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 3:17 AM Subject: RE: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service
If we stay the course we’ll achieve something- unfortunately we never do. I believe a while back in this very same forum there was a wealthy discussion on how to turn around PCK and even one members had championed to be elected PMG, those ideas are now archives credit to our short-term memory! Brilliant discussions and no action is just as bad as shutting up and putting up with the status quo….and I am almost certain that the concerned parties who form the bulk of this forum’s “lurkers” are all smiles because they are certain that no matter how loud we whine, being Kenyan, nothing is going to happen. Edwin From:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Matunda Nyanchama Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:44 PM To: Edwin Cc: BPO Kenya; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service Re: How To Revive Postal Service
Amenya
You are living in the past.
Postal services worldwide are declining and only those with futuristic leadership will enable their corporations adopt. Part of the reason is the growth of electronic communications (fast, reliable, etc.) and competition from other carriers: courier companies, etc (in fact in Kenya bus companies deliver parcels more reliably than Posta) and more.
In the advanced western economies, futuristic postal corporations have created virtual mailboxes for
their bills, statements, etc electronically; documents that can be accessed via a secure web portal. Smart phone growth has been a key enabler of such services, which allow you to scan your documents, pay your bills, etc.
Two years ago we approached PCK on a similar approach. The idea was for us to help them craft a strategy to position themselves for survival in the future. Much of our strategy is based on use of technology, taking advantage of their reach across the country, agency banking, etc.
Our good general looked at us without betraying a sense of whether he understood what we were saying or not. He dispatched us to the ICT department, composed of very good knowledgeable people working under very difficult circumstances.
Long story short: we hit a brick wall.
The PCK leadership is archaic, doesn't understand business. Most of them have the civil service mentality .... hang your coat, go roast meat/check how your matatu is doing, come back 3-4 hours later, review one file, go home and for sure there will be a pay cheque at the end of the month!
Zip productivity!
I could write tons about the unrealized PCK potential but let that be for another day!
In the meantime you may wish to check the story of PostaPay which was supposed to compete with MoneyGram and Western Union in international money transfer business! We launched this with pomp ... a few years later, the same people with who we were singing songs of patriotism, were in the dock for embezzlement.
Remember the recent article I shared on why Africa lags the Asian Tigers: we eat it all!
Matunda Nyanchama
--- In NewVisionKenya@yahoogroups.com, amenya gibson <g_amenya2000@...> wrote:
I think Kenyans we can make Kenya great when we join hands and walk together unlike Hon Mudavadi who said he shall never walk alone yet he decamped from a party that uplifted him from political oblivions when Akaranga fried him in 2002 elections ,A conflict statement.
Back to my little thinking.
I have been reasoning that since we are gearing towards an elections
2013 why can the MPs pass a law that requires all parties to send
respective partymanifestos through post offices to Kenyans and also via parcel firms.?
This will see a boost in revenues collections both direct and indirect and KRA will have enough avenue to collect taxes to pay teachers ,soldiers etc.
Postal Corporation will see demand for its stamps go up ,their rental boxes will be active and also we shall see an increased parcels movements with other private firms like G4S,Wells Fargo and many more.
So as Kenyans let us demand all parties to send their manifestos via registered firms and this will see an increased economic activities because when this is done ,printing firms will have business,they will hire
in their people
,hence helping reduction of unemployment in Kenya.
It can be done let nobody tell me that democracy is suppose to be affordable hence they party manifestos should be distributed freely.
Kenyans must come up with simple ideas that will help our GDP uptick.
They say we lose Ksh 3.4 B through corruptions and other
almost entire populations. Here one gets panya routes
what
if we sealed those loopholes then we shall have more money said to have parties pay for postal services so that their supporters can get the manifestos in their mail boxes.
-- Thanks Gibson Amenya Level Moja Solutions Skype amenya.gibson http://levelmojafinancials.kbo.co.ke
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Daktari, I believe Dr. Waudo in this forum is still with CSK probably he could shed more light on the ability of the organization to run with this; and as of KIF, the last time I checked, it was a 1 man show!...that said, a body that would act on ideas herein shared, has to be funded and from my past experience with such industry bodies, I know that the government will never fund it. Also, this becoming a lobby organization representing a very broad sector by definition; do not count on member contributions…so how then do we get things off the ground? Best Regards, Edwin From: kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Matunda Nyanchama Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 4:13 PM To: Edwin Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; BPO Kenya Subject: Re: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service Evans I don't hear much from CSK nor from KIF; and perhaps those need to be strengthened. However, as I have said, ICT is such a crucial sector it needs its own industry-related body to ensure appropriate level of focus. And what you say be me the way to go. However, (and I am not sure this hasn't taken place) there is a need for adoption (or otherwise) of the report and its recommendations. Secondly, there needs to be way of seamlessly linking recommendations/suggestions/actions/etc floated and adopted here to implementation, be it via KIF, CSK, or a transformed KICTanet. Shukrani. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: <http://twitter.com/#%21/nmatunda> nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation…" - Anonymous ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you. _____ From: Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com> To: Matunda Nyanchama <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; BPO Kenya <bpokenya@egroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service Daktari, I believe there is an ICT arm in KEPSA called KIF (Kenya ICT Federation)? This, or CSK, is the body that needs to be reformed so that it takes everybody on board, and then KICKTANet can remain as a networking forum, maybe within the bigger body or something like that. Just my thoughts. Evans On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Matunda Nyanchama <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> wrote: Edwin The Summit Strategies report shared with us here recently made some very pertinent recommendations. I think KICTAnet has a real opportunity if it transforms itself as per recommendations. The forum would remain as a means of information sharing. It is also in line with previous discussions regarding creation of a ICT industry body with focus on technology policy, advocacy (?), etc on behalf of the industry; a kind of KEPSA with focus on technology. Someone may ask why not play within KEPSA? My answer: ICT is so core to the national economy and large enough to warrant such a body. This is what Canada (the market I am most familiar with) has with what is called Canadian Technology Alliance (CATA). I know funding would be an issue, especially at the teething stages. And one proposal would be for GoK to offer seed money and funding for a period (say 3~5 years) within which the body would have established long-term financing. And with proper governance, we can then hold those that lead the organization to account. It would give Harry Hare's ideas some landing patch and chance for implementation. Have a good day. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: <http://twitter.com/#%21/nmatunda> nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation…" - Anonymous ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you. _____ From: Edwin Onchari <eonchari@lynxbits.com> To: 'Matunda Nyanchama' <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> Cc: 'BPO Kenya' <bpokenya@egroups.com>; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 3:17 AM Subject: RE: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service If we stay the course we’ll achieve something- unfortunately we never do. I believe a while back in this very same forum there was a wealthy discussion on how to turn around PCK and even one members had championed to be elected PMG, those ideas are now archives credit to our short-term memory! Brilliant discussions and no action is just as bad as shutting up and putting up with the status quo….and I am almost certain that the concerned parties who form the bulk of this forum’s “lurkers” are all smiles because they are certain that no matter how loud we whine, being Kenyan, nothing is going to happen. Edwin From: kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Beonchari> =lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Matunda Nyanchama Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:44 PM To: Edwin Cc: BPO Kenya; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service Re: How To Revive Postal Service Amenya You are living in the past. Postal services worldwide are declining and only those with futuristic leadership will enable their corporations adopt. Part of the reason is the growth of electronic communications (fast, reliable, etc.) and competition from other carriers: courier companies, etc (in fact in Kenya bus companies deliver parcels more reliably than Posta) and more. In the advanced western economies, futuristic postal corporations have created virtual mailboxes for almost entire populations. Here one gets their bills, statements, etc electronically; documents that can be accessed via a secure web portal. Smart phone growth has been a key enabler of such services, which allow you to scan your documents, pay your bills, etc. Two years ago we approached PCK on a similar approach. The idea was for us to help them craft a strategy to position themselves for survival in the future. Much of our strategy is based on use of technology, taking advantage of their reach across the country, agency banking, etc. Our good general looked at us without betraying a sense of whether he understood what we were saying or not. He dispatched us to the ICT department, composed of very good knowledgeable people working under very difficult circumstances. Long story short: we hit a brick wall. The PCK leadership is archaic, doesn't understand business. Most of them have the civil service mentality .... hang your coat, go roast meat/check how your matatu is doing, come back 3-4 hours later, review one file, go home and for sure there will be a pay cheque at the end of the month! Zip productivity! I could write tons about the unrealized PCK potential but let that be for another day! In the meantime you may wish to check the story of PostaPay which was supposed to compete with MoneyGram and Western Union in international money transfer business! We launched this with pomp ... a few years later, the same people with who we were singing songs of patriotism, were in the dock for embezzlement. Remember the recent article I shared on why Africa lags the Asian Tigers: we eat it all! Matunda Nyanchama --- In NewVisionKenya@yahoogroups.com <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NewVisionKenya/post?postID=CcGPYeVI9HzWNy57c5oA7S80m4uc3mQvsODMNg6BgBmqWNODQm3FjL71SDYoaZYUE9QVPvWaFwdQy6O-R2G7sWP25xer> , amenya gibson <g_amenya2000@...> wrote:
I think Kenyans we can make Kenya great when we join hands and walk together unlike Hon Mudavadi who said he shall never walk alone yet he decamped from a party that uplifted him from political oblivions when Akaranga fried him in 2002 elections ,A conflict statement.
Back to my little thinking.
I have been reasoning that since we are gearing towards an elections
2013 why can the MPs pass a law that requires all parties to send
respective partymanifestos through post offices to Kenyans and also via parcel firms.?
This will see a boost in revenues collections both direct and indirect and KRA will have enough avenue to collect taxes to pay teachers ,soldiers etc.
Postal Corporation will see demand for its stamps go up ,their rental boxes will be active and also we shall see an increased parcels movements with other private firms like G4S,Wells Fargo and many more.
So as Kenyans let us demand all parties to send their manifestos via registered firms and this will see an increased economic activities because when this is done ,printing firms will have business,they will hire
in their people
,hence helping reduction of unemployment in Kenya.
It can be done let nobody tell me that democracy is suppose to be affordable hence they party manifestos should be distributed freely.
Kenyans must come up with simple ideas that will help our GDP uptick.
They say we lose Ksh 3.4 B through corruptions and other panya routes what if we sealed those loopholes then we shall have more money said to have parties pay for postal services so that their supporters can get the manifestos in their mail boxes.
-- Thanks Gibson Amenya Level Moja Solutions Skype amenya.gibson http://levelmojafinancials.kbo.co.ke <http://levelmojafinancials.kbo.co.ke/>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda; <http://twitter.com/#%21/nmatunda> Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation…" - Anonymous ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you. _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4956 - Release Date: 04/24/12 _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ikua.evans%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4958 - Release Date: 04/25/12
Hi Onchari - I agree that it is a bit far-fetched to expect the government to fund a private sector association. However, I believe KEPSA is a good umbrella for the multitude of specialist associations. On Thu, Apr 26, 2012, at 10:35 AM, Edwin Onchari wrote: Daktari, I believe Dr. Waudo in this forum is still with CSK probably he could shed more light on the ability of the organization to run with this; and as of KIF, the last time I checked, it was a 1 man show!...that said, a body that would act on ideas herein shared, has to be funded and from my past experience with such industry bodies, I know that the government will never fund it. Also, this becoming a lobby organization representing a very broad sector by definition; do not count on member contributions…so how then do we get things off the ground? Best Regards, Edwin From: kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or. ke] On Behalf Of Matunda Nyanchama Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 4:13 PM To: Edwin Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; BPO Kenya Subject: Re: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service Evans I don't hear much from CSK nor from KIF; and perhaps those need to be strengthened. However, as I have said, ICT is such a crucial sector it needs its own industry-related body to ensure appropriate level of focus. And what you say be me the way to go. However, (and I am not sure this hasn't taken place) there is a need for adoption (or otherwise) of the report and its recommendations. Secondly, there needs to be way of seamlessly linking recommendations/suggestions/actions/etc floated and adopted here to implementation, be it via KIF, CSK, or a transformed KICTanet. Shukrani. ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; [1]www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: [2]nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------- Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ "A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation…" - Anonymous ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you. _________________________________________________________________ From: Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com> To: Matunda Nyanchama <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; BPO Kenya <bpokenya@egroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service Daktari, I believe there is an ICT arm in KEPSA called KIF (Kenya ICT Federation)? This, or CSK, is the body that needs to be reformed so that it takes everybody on board, and then KICKTANet can remain as a networking forum, maybe within the bigger body or something like that. Just my thoughts. Evans On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Matunda Nyanchama <[3]mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> wrote: Edwin The Summit Strategies report shared with us here recently made some very pertinent recommendations. I think KICTAnet has a real opportunity if it transforms itself as per recommendations. The forum would remain as a means of information sharing. It is also in line with previous discussions regarding creation of a ICT industry body with focus on technology policy, advocacy (?), etc on behalf of the industry; a kind of KEPSA with focus on technology. Someone may ask why not play within KEPSA? My answer: ICT is so core to the national economy and large enough to warrant such a body. This is what Canada (the market I am most familiar with) has with what is called Canadian Technology Alliance (CATA). I know funding would be an issue, especially at the teething stages. And one proposal would be for GoK to offer seed money and funding for a period (say 3~5 years) within which the body would have established long-term financing. And with proper governance, we can then hold those that lead the organization to account. It would give Harry Hare's ideas some landing patch and chance for implementation. Have a good day. ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; [4]mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; [5]www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: [6]nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------- Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ "A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation…" - Anonymous ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you. _________________________________________________________________ From: Edwin Onchari <[7]eonchari@lynxbits.com> To: 'Matunda Nyanchama' <[8]mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> Cc: 'BPO Kenya' <[9]bpokenya@egroups.com>; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <[10]kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 3:17 AM Subject: RE: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service If we stay the course we’ll achieve something- unfortunately we never do. I believe a while back in this very same forum there was a wealthy discussion on how to turn around PCK and even one members had championed to be elected PMG, those ideas are now archives credit to our short-term memory! Brilliant discussions and no action is just as bad as shutting up and putting up with the status quo….and I am almost certain that the concerned parties who form the bulk of this forum’s “lurkers” are all smiles because they are certain that no matter how loud we whine, being Kenyan, nothing is going to happen. Edwin From: kictanet-bounces+eonchari=[11]lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:[12]kictanet-bounces+eonchari=[13]lynxbits.com@lists.kict anet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Matunda Nyanchama Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:44 PM To: Edwin Cc: BPO Kenya; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service Re: How To Revive Postal Service Amenya You are living in the past. Postal services worldwide are declining and only those with futuristic leadership will enable their corporations adopt. Part of the reason is the growth of electronic communications (fast, reliable, etc.) and competition from other carriers: courier companies, etc (in fact in Kenya bus companies deliver parcels more reliably than Posta) and more. In the advanced western economies, futuristic postal corporations have created virtual mailboxes for almost entire populations. Here one gets their bills, statements, etc electronically; documents that can be accessed via a secure web portal. Smart phone growth has been a key enabler of such services, which allow you to scan your documents, pay your bills, etc. Two years ago we approached PCK on a similar approach. The idea was for us to help them craft a strategy to position themselves for survival in the future. Much of our strategy is based on use of technology, taking advantage of their reach across the country, agency banking, etc. Our good general looked at us without betraying a sense of whether he understood what we were saying or not. He dispatched us to the ICT department, composed of very good knowledgeable people working under very difficult circumstances. Long story short: we hit a brick wall. The PCK leadership is archaic, doesn't understand business. Most of them have the civil service mentality .... hang your coat, go roast meat/check how your matatu is doing, come back 3-4 hours later, review one file, go home and for sure there will be a pay cheque at the end of the month! Zip productivity! I could write tons about the unrealized PCK potential but let that be for another day! In the meantime you may wish to check the story of PostaPay which was supposed to compete with MoneyGram and Western Union in international money transfer business! We launched this with pomp ... a few years later, the same people with who we were singing songs of patriotism, were in the dock for embezzlement. Remember the recent article I shared on why Africa lags the Asian Tigers: we eat it all! Matunda Nyanchama --- In FastMail.FM WARNING: URL text and host don't match, possible phishing attempt. URL disabled. Original URL='http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NewVisionKenya/post?postID=CcG PYeVI9HzWNy57c5oA7S80m4uc3mQvsODMNg6BgBmqWNODQm3FjL71SDYoaZY UE9QVPvWaFwdQy6O-R2G7sWP25xer'. Original text='NewVisionKenya@yahoogroups.com'. For more information on phishing click [14]here., amenya gibson <g_amenya2000@...> wrote:
I think Kenyans we can make Kenya great when we join hands and
together unlike Hon Mudavadi who said he shall never walk alone yet he decamped from a party that uplifted him from political oblivions when Akaranga fried him in 2002 elections ,A conflict statement.
Back to my little thinking.
I have been reasoning that since we are gearing towards an elections in 2013 why can the MPs pass a law that requires all parties to send
respective partymanifestos through post offices to Kenyans and also via parcel firms.?
This will see a boost in revenues collections both direct and indirect and KRA will have enough avenue to collect taxes to pay teachers ,soldiers etc.
Postal Corporation will see demand for its stamps go up ,their rental boxes will be active and also we shall see an increased parcels movements with other private firms like G4S,Wells Fargo and many more.
So as Kenyans let us demand all parties to send their manifestos via registered firms and this will see an increased economic activities because when this is done ,printing firms will have business,they will hire
walk their people
,hence helping reduction of unemployment in Kenya.
It can be done let nobody tell me that democracy is suppose to be affordable hence they party manifestos should be distributed freely.
Kenyans must come up with simple ideas that will help our GDP uptick.
They say we lose Ksh 3.4 B through corruptions and other panya routes what if we sealed those loopholes then we shall have more money said to have parties pay for postal services so that their supporters can get the manifestos in their mail boxes.
-- Thanks Gibson Amenya Level Moja Solutions Skype amenya.gibson [15]http://levelmojafinancials.kbo.co.ke
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Edwin I think I will let others speak. In my experience when we have reached such "forks in the road" a few people (passionate enough with the idea) retreat to a corner, explore possibilities, come with recommendations/options/etc. And then there is a vote (adoption you may say) and a decision is reached and whatever is resolved moves to the next level: implementation. On government "seed money" you are right about prospects because (mainly) this has not been the tradition of our government. It doesn't mean it cannot be done. In some countries government even funds organizations that challenge its own decisions in court in order to test/establish the legality/support for those positions. It is a form of transparency. Talking of forks in a road, one Yogi Berra says thus (or something to that effect): when you get to a fork in a road, take it! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation…" - Anonymous ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you. ________________________________ From: Edwin Onchari <eonchari@lynxbits.com> To: 'Matunda Nyanchama' <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; 'BPO Kenya' <bpokenya@egroups.com> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 3:35 AM Subject: RE: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service Daktari, I believe Dr. Waudo in this forum is still with CSK probably he could shed more light on the ability of the organization to run with this; and as of KIF, the last time I checked, it was a 1 man show!...that said, a body that would act on ideas herein shared, has to be funded and from my past experience with such industry bodies, I know that the government will never fund it. Also, this becoming a lobby organization representing a very broad sector by definition; do not count on member contributions…so how then do we get things off the ground? Best Regards, Edwin From:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Matunda Nyanchama Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 4:13 PM To: Edwin Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; BPO Kenya Subject: Re: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service Evans I don't hear much from CSK nor from KIF; and perhaps those need to be strengthened. However, as I have said, ICT is such a crucial sector it needs its own industry-related body to ensure appropriate level of focus. And what you say be me the way to go. However, (and I am not sure this hasn't taken place) there is a need for adoption (or otherwise) of the report and its recommendations. Secondly, there needs to be way of seamlessly linking recommendations/suggestions/actions/etc floated and adopted here to implementation, be it via KIF, CSK, or a transformed KICTanet. Shukrani. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation…" - Anonymous ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you. ________________________________ From:Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com> To: Matunda Nyanchama <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; BPO Kenya <bpokenya@egroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service Daktari, I believe there is an ICT arm in KEPSA called KIF (Kenya ICT Federation)? This, or CSK, is the body that needs to be reformed so that it takes everybody on board, and then KICKTANet can remain as a networking forum, maybe within the bigger body or something like that. Just my thoughts. Evans On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Matunda Nyanchama <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> wrote: Edwin The Summit Strategies report shared with us here recently made some very pertinent recommendations. I think KICTAnet has a real opportunity if it transforms itself as per recommendations. The forum would remain as a means of information sharing. It is also in line with previous discussions regarding creation of a ICT industry body with focus on technology policy, advocacy (?), etc on behalf of the industry; a kind of KEPSA with focus on technology. Someone may ask why not play within KEPSA? My answer: ICT is so core to the national economy and large enough to warrant such a body. This is what Canada (the market I am most familiar with) has with what is called Canadian Technology Alliance (CATA). I know funding would be an issue, especially at the teething stages. And one proposal would be for GoK to offer seed money and funding for a period (say 3~5 years) within which the body would have established long-term financing. And with proper governance, we can then hold those that lead the organization to account. It would give Harry Hare's ideas some landing patch and chance for implementation. Have a good day. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation…" - Anonymous ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you. ________________________________ From:Edwin Onchari <eonchari@lynxbits.com> To: 'Matunda Nyanchama' <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> Cc: 'BPO Kenya' <bpokenya@egroups.com>; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 3:17 AM Subject: RE: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service If we stay the course we’ll achieve something- unfortunately we never do. I believe a while back in this very same forum there was a wealthy discussion on how to turn around PCK and even one members had championed to be elected PMG, those ideas are now archives credit to our short-term memory! Brilliant discussions and no action is just as bad as shutting up and putting up with the status quo….and I am almost certain that the concerned parties who form the bulk of this forum’s “lurkers” are all smiles because they are certain that no matter how loud we whine, being Kenyan, nothing is going to happen. Edwin From:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Matunda Nyanchama Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:44 PM To: Edwin Cc: BPO Kenya; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service Re: How To Revive Postal Service Amenya You are living in the past. Postal services worldwide are declining and only those with futuristic leadership will enable their corporations adopt. Part of the reason is the growth of electronic communications (fast, reliable, etc.) and competition from other carriers: courier companies, etc (in fact in Kenya bus companies deliver parcels more reliably than Posta) and more. In the advanced western economies, futuristic postal corporations have created virtual mailboxes for almost entire populations. Here one gets their bills, statements, etc electronically; documents that can be accessed via a secure web portal. Smart phone growth has been a key enabler of such services, which allow you to scan your documents, pay your bills, etc. Two years ago we approached PCK on a similar approach. The idea was for us to help them craft a strategy to position themselves for survival in the future. Much of our strategy is based on use of technology, taking advantage of their reach across the country, agency banking, etc. Our good general looked at us without betraying a sense of whether he understood what we were saying or not. He dispatched us to the ICT department, composed of very good knowledgeable people working under very difficult circumstances. Long story short: we hit a brick wall. The PCK leadership is archaic, doesn't understand business. Most of them have the civil service mentality .... hang your coat, go roast meat/check how your matatu is doing, come back 3-4 hours later, review one file, go home and for sure there will be a pay cheque at the end of the month! Zip productivity! I could write tons about the unrealized PCK potential but let that be for another day! In the meantime you may wish to check the story of PostaPay which was supposed to compete with MoneyGram and Western Union in international money transfer business! We launched this with pomp ... a few years later, the same people with who we were singing songs of patriotism, were in the dock for embezzlement. Remember the recent article I shared on why Africa lags the Asian Tigers: we eat it all! Matunda Nyanchama --- In NewVisionKenya@yahoogroups.com, amenya gibson <g_amenya2000@...> wrote:
I think Kenyans we can make Kenya great when we join hands and walk together unlike Hon Mudavadi who said he shall never walk alone yet he decamped from a party that uplifted him from political oblivions when Akaranga fried him in 2002 elections ,A conflict statement.
Back to my little thinking.
I have been reasoning that since we are gearing towards an elections
2013 why can the MPs pass a law that requires all parties to send
respective partymanifestos through post offices to Kenyans and also via parcel firms.?
This will see a boost in revenues collections both direct and indirect and KRA will have enough avenue to collect taxes to pay teachers ,soldiers etc.
Postal Corporation will see demand for its stamps go up ,their rental boxes will be active and also we shall see an increased parcels movements with other private firms like G4S,Wells Fargo and many more.
So as Kenyans let us demand all parties to send their manifestos via registered firms and this will see an increased economic activities because when this is done ,printing firms will have business,they will hire
in their people
,hence helping reduction of unemployment in Kenya.
It can be done let nobody tell me that democracy is suppose to be affordable hence they party manifestos should be distributed freely.
Kenyans must come up with simple ideas that will help our GDP uptick.
They say we lose Ksh 3.4 B through corruptions and other panya routes what if we sealed those loopholes then we shall have more money said to have parties pay for postal services so that their supporters can get the manifestos in their mail boxes.
-- Thanks Gibson Amenya Level Moja Solutions Skype amenya.gibson http://levelmojafinancials.kbo.co.ke
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation…" - Anonymous ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you. ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4956 - Release Date: 04/24/12 _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ikua.evans%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4958 - Release Date: 04/25/12
Dkt, As we all deliberate on which prong of the fork to take, I believe that if the independent body was to become off a parliamentary process, then the government will be bound to fund it. Such a body will have the independence to provide oversight and alignment of ICT initiatives to carry us forward. Best Regards, Edwin From: Matunda Nyanchama [mailto:mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 4:23 PM To: Edwin Onchari Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'; 'BPO Kenya' Subject: Re: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service Edwin I think I will let others speak. In my experience when we have reached such "forks in the road" a few people (passionate enough with the idea) retreat to a corner, explore possibilities, come with recommendations/options/etc. And then there is a vote (adoption you may say) and a decision is reached and whatever is resolved moves to the next level: implementation. On government "seed money" you are right about prospects because (mainly) this has not been the tradition of our government. It doesn't mean it cannot be done. In some countries government even funds organizations that challenge its own decisions in court in order to test/establish the legality/support for those positions. It is a form of transparency. Talking of forks in a road, one Yogi Berra says thus (or something to that effect): when you get to a fork in a road, take it! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: <http://twitter.com/#%21/nmatunda> nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation…" - Anonymous ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you. _____ From: Edwin Onchari <eonchari@lynxbits.com> To: 'Matunda Nyanchama' <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; 'BPO Kenya' <bpokenya@egroups.com> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 3:35 AM Subject: RE: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service Daktari, I believe Dr. Waudo in this forum is still with CSK probably he could shed more light on the ability of the organization to run with this; and as of KIF, the last time I checked, it was a 1 man show!...that said, a body that would act on ideas herein shared, has to be funded and from my past experience with such industry bodies, I know that the government will never fund it. Also, this becoming a lobby organization representing a very broad sector by definition; do not count on member contributions…so how then do we get things off the ground? Best Regards, Edwin From: kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Matunda Nyanchama Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 4:13 PM To: Edwin Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; BPO Kenya Subject: Re: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service Evans I don't hear much from CSK nor from KIF; and perhaps those need to be strengthened. However, as I have said, ICT is such a crucial sector it needs its own industry-related body to ensure appropriate level of focus. And what you say be me the way to go. However, (and I am not sure this hasn't taken place) there is a need for adoption (or otherwise) of the report and its recommendations. Secondly, there needs to be way of seamlessly linking recommendations/suggestions/actions/etc floated and adopted here to implementation, be it via KIF, CSK, or a transformed KICTanet. Shukrani. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: <http://twitter.com/#%21/nmatunda> nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation…" - Anonymous ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you. _____ From: Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com> To: Matunda Nyanchama <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; BPO Kenya <bpokenya@egroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service Daktari, I believe there is an ICT arm in KEPSA called KIF (Kenya ICT Federation)? This, or CSK, is the body that needs to be reformed so that it takes everybody on board, and then KICKTANet can remain as a networking forum, maybe within the bigger body or something like that. Just my thoughts. Evans On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Matunda Nyanchama <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> wrote: Edwin The Summit Strategies report shared with us here recently made some very pertinent recommendations. I think KICTAnet has a real opportunity if it transforms itself as per recommendations. The forum would remain as a means of information sharing. It is also in line with previous discussions regarding creation of a ICT industry body with focus on technology policy, advocacy (?), etc on behalf of the industry; a kind of KEPSA with focus on technology. Someone may ask why not play within KEPSA? My answer: ICT is so core to the national economy and large enough to warrant such a body. This is what Canada (the market I am most familiar with) has with what is called Canadian Technology Alliance (CATA). I know funding would be an issue, especially at the teething stages. And one proposal would be for GoK to offer seed money and funding for a period (say 3~5 years) within which the body would have established long-term financing. And with proper governance, we can then hold those that lead the organization to account. It would give Harry Hare's ideas some landing patch and chance for implementation. Have a good day. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: <http://twitter.com/#%21/nmatunda> nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation…" - Anonymous ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you. _____ From: Edwin Onchari <eonchari@lynxbits.com> To: 'Matunda Nyanchama' <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> Cc: 'BPO Kenya' <bpokenya@egroups.com>; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 3:17 AM Subject: RE: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service If we stay the course we’ll achieve something- unfortunately we never do. I believe a while back in this very same forum there was a wealthy discussion on how to turn around PCK and even one members had championed to be elected PMG, those ideas are now archives credit to our short-term memory! Brilliant discussions and no action is just as bad as shutting up and putting up with the status quo….and I am almost certain that the concerned parties who form the bulk of this forum’s “lurkers” are all smiles because they are certain that no matter how loud we whine, being Kenyan, nothing is going to happen. Edwin From: kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Beonchari> =lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Matunda Nyanchama Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:44 PM To: Edwin Cc: BPO Kenya; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service Re: How To Revive Postal Service Amenya You are living in the past. Postal services worldwide are declining and only those with futuristic leadership will enable their corporations adopt. Part of the reason is the growth of electronic communications (fast, reliable, etc.) and competition from other carriers: courier companies, etc (in fact in Kenya bus companies deliver parcels more reliably than Posta) and more. In the advanced western economies, futuristic postal corporations have created virtual mailboxes for almost entire populations. Here one gets their bills, statements, etc electronically; documents that can be accessed via a secure web portal. Smart phone growth has been a key enabler of such services, which allow you to scan your documents, pay your bills, etc. Two years ago we approached PCK on a similar approach. The idea was for us to help them craft a strategy to position themselves for survival in the future. Much of our strategy is based on use of technology, taking advantage of their reach across the country, agency banking, etc. Our good general looked at us without betraying a sense of whether he understood what we were saying or not. He dispatched us to the ICT department, composed of very good knowledgeable people working under very difficult circumstances. Long story short: we hit a brick wall. The PCK leadership is archaic, doesn't understand business. Most of them have the civil service mentality .... hang your coat, go roast meat/check how your matatu is doing, come back 3-4 hours later, review one file, go home and for sure there will be a pay cheque at the end of the month! Zip productivity! I could write tons about the unrealized PCK potential but let that be for another day! In the meantime you may wish to check the story of PostaPay which was supposed to compete with MoneyGram and Western Union in international money transfer business! We launched this with pomp ... a few years later, the same people with who we were singing songs of patriotism, were in the dock for embezzlement. Remember the recent article I shared on why Africa lags the Asian Tigers: we eat it all! Matunda Nyanchama --- In NewVisionKenya@yahoogroups.com <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NewVisionKenya/post?postID=CcGPYeVI9HzWNy57c5oA7S80m4uc3mQvsODMNg6BgBmqWNODQm3FjL71SDYoaZYUE9QVPvWaFwdQy6O-R2G7sWP25xer> , amenya gibson <g_amenya2000@...> wrote:
I think Kenyans we can make Kenya great when we join hands and walk together unlike Hon Mudavadi who said he shall never walk alone yet he decamped from a party that uplifted him from political oblivions when Akaranga fried him in 2002 elections ,A conflict statement.
Back to my little thinking.
I have been reasoning that since we are gearing towards an elections
2013 why can the MPs pass a law that requires all parties to send
respective partymanifestos through post offices to Kenyans and also via parcel firms.?
This will see a boost in revenues collections both direct and indirect and KRA will have enough avenue to collect taxes to pay teachers ,soldiers etc.
Postal Corporation will see demand for its stamps go up ,their rental boxes will be active and also we shall see an increased parcels movements with other private firms like G4S,Wells Fargo and many more.
So as Kenyans let us demand all parties to send their manifestos via registered firms and this will see an increased economic activities because when this is done ,printing firms will have business,they will hire
in their people
,hence helping reduction of unemployment in Kenya.
It can be done let nobody tell me that democracy is suppose to be affordable hence they party manifestos should be distributed freely.
Kenyans must come up with simple ideas that will help our GDP uptick.
They say we lose Ksh 3.4 B through corruptions and other panya routes what if we sealed those loopholes then we shall have more money said to have parties pay for postal services so that their supporters can get the manifestos in their mail boxes.
-- Thanks Gibson Amenya Level Moja Solutions Skype amenya.gibson http://levelmojafinancials.kbo.co.ke <http://levelmojafinancials.kbo.co.ke/>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda; <http://twitter.com/#%21/nmatunda> Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation…" - Anonymous ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you. _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4956 - Release Date: 04/24/12 _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ikua.evans%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4958 - Release Date: 04/25/12 _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4960 - Release Date: 04/26/12
Listers (Edwin & Dr. too), The forum has already shared the ideas of how to move forward and yes there are some people very busy crafting a solution while the discussions progress. I think that we have engaged too long and too much in the "what" without dwelling or putting in as much effort on the "how, when and who". Check #140Friday. Some Discussions are good but they must move to having clearly articulated objectives, responsible parties identified and individuals appointed, assigned or volunteer to follow through within given timelines to avoid this becoming an academic/theoretical exercise. If this decisive and deliberate step does not happen this discussion will mushroom in the future only that it might have been overtaken by events. Regards, Patrick M. Karanja ________________________________ From: Edwin Onchari <eonchari@lynxbits.com> To: mutuota@yahoo.com Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; 'BPO Kenya' <bpokenya@egroups.com> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service Dkt, As we all deliberate on which prong of the fork to take, I believe that if the independent body was to become off a parliamentary process, then the government will be bound to fund it. Such a body will have the independence to provide oversight and alignment of ICT initiatives to carry us forward. Best Regards, Edwin From:Matunda Nyanchama [mailto:mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 4:23 PM To: Edwin Onchari Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'; 'BPO Kenya' Subject: Re: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service Edwin I think I will let others speak. In my experience when we have reached such "forks in the road" a few people (passionate enough with the idea) retreat to a corner, explore possibilities, come with recommendations/options/etc. And then there is a vote (adoption you may say) and a decision is reached and whatever is resolved moves to the next level: implementation. On government "seed money" you are right about prospects because (mainly) this has not been the tradition of our government. It doesn't mean it cannot be done. In some countries government even funds organizations that challenge its own decisions in court in order to test/establish the legality/support for those positions. It is a form of transparency. Talking of forks in a road, one Yogi Berra says thus (or something to that effect): when you get to a fork in a road, take it! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation…" - Anonymous ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you. ________________________________ From:Edwin Onchari <eonchari@lynxbits.com> To: 'Matunda Nyanchama' <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; 'BPO Kenya' <bpokenya@egroups.com> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 3:35 AM Subject: RE: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service Daktari, I believe Dr. Waudo in this forum is still with CSK probably he could shed more light on the ability of the organization to run with this; and as of KIF, the last time I checked, it was a 1 man show!...that said, a body that would act on ideas herein shared, has to be funded and from my past experience with such industry bodies, I know that the government will never fund it. Also, this becoming a lobby organization representing a very broad sector by definition; do not count on member contributions…so how then do we get things off the ground? Best Regards, Edwin From:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Matunda Nyanchama Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 4:13 PM To: Edwin Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; BPO Kenya Subject: Re: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service Evans I don't hear much from CSK nor from KIF; and perhaps those need to be strengthened. However, as I have said, ICT is such a crucial sector it needs its own industry-related body to ensure appropriate level of focus. And what you say be me the way to go. However, (and I am not sure this hasn't taken place) there is a need for adoption (or otherwise) of the report and its recommendations. Secondly, there needs to be way of seamlessly linking recommendations/suggestions/actions/etc floated and adopted here to implementation, be it via KIF, CSK, or a transformed KICTanet. Shukrani. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation…" - Anonymous ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you. ________________________________ From:Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com> To: Matunda Nyanchama <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; BPO Kenya <bpokenya@egroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service Daktari, I believe there is an ICT arm in KEPSA called KIF (Kenya ICT Federation)? This, or CSK, is the body that needs to be reformed so that it takes everybody on board, and then KICKTANet can remain as a networking forum, maybe within the bigger body or something like that. Just my thoughts. Evans On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Matunda Nyanchama <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> wrote: Edwin The Summit Strategies report shared with us here recently made some very pertinent recommendations. I think KICTAnet has a real opportunity if it transforms itself as per recommendations. The forum would remain as a means of information sharing. It is also in line with previous discussions regarding creation of a ICT industry body with focus on technology policy, advocacy (?), etc on behalf of the industry; a kind of KEPSA with focus on technology. Someone may ask why not play within KEPSA? My answer: ICT is so core to the national economy and large enough to warrant such a body. This is what Canada (the market I am most familiar with) has with what is called Canadian Technology Alliance (CATA). I know funding would be an issue, especially at the teething stages. And one proposal would be for GoK to offer seed money and funding for a period (say 3~5 years) within which the body would have established long-term financing. And with proper governance, we can then hold those that lead the organization to account. It would give Harry Hare's ideas some landing patch and chance for implementation. Have a good day. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation…" - Anonymous ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you. ________________________________ From:Edwin Onchari <eonchari@lynxbits.com> To: 'Matunda Nyanchama' <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> Cc: 'BPO Kenya' <bpokenya@egroups.com>; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 3:17 AM Subject: RE: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service If we stay the course we’ll achieve something- unfortunately we never do. I believe a while back in this very same forum there was a wealthy discussion on how to turn around PCK and even one members had championed to be elected PMG, those ideas are now archives credit to our short-term memory! Brilliant discussions and no action is just as bad as shutting up and putting up with the status quo….and I am almost certain that the concerned parties who form the bulk of this forum’s “lurkers” are all smiles because they are certain that no matter how loud we whine, being Kenyan, nothing is going to happen. Edwin From:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Matunda Nyanchama Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:44 PM To: Edwin Cc: BPO Kenya; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service Re: How To Revive Postal Service Amenya You are living in the past. Postal services worldwide are declining and only those with futuristic leadership will enable their corporations adopt. Part of the reason is the growth of electronic communications (fast, reliable, etc.) and competition from other carriers: courier companies, etc (in fact in Kenya bus companies deliver parcels more reliably than Posta) and more. In the advanced western economies, futuristic postal corporations have created virtual mailboxes for almost entire populations. Here one gets their bills, statements, etc electronically; documents that can be accessed via a secure web portal. Smart phone growth has been a key enabler of such services, which allow you to scan your documents, pay your bills, etc. Two years ago we approached PCK on a similar approach. The idea was for us to help them craft a strategy to position themselves for survival in the future. Much of our strategy is based on use of technology, taking advantage of their reach across the country, agency banking, etc. Our good general looked at us without betraying a sense of whether he understood what we were saying or not. He dispatched us to the ICT department, composed of very good knowledgeable people working under very difficult circumstances. Long story short: we hit a brick wall. The PCK leadership is archaic, doesn't understand business. Most of them have the civil service mentality .... hang your coat, go roast meat/check how your matatu is doing, come back 3-4 hours later, review one file, go home and for sure there will be a pay cheque at the end of the month! Zip productivity! I could write tons about the unrealized PCK potential but let that be for another day! In the meantime you may wish to check the story of PostaPay which was supposed to compete with MoneyGram and Western Union in international money transfer business! We launched this with pomp ... a few years later, the same people with who we were singing songs of patriotism, were in the dock for embezzlement. Remember the recent article I shared on why Africa lags the Asian Tigers: we eat it all! Matunda Nyanchama --- In NewVisionKenya@yahoogroups.com, amenya gibson <g_amenya2000@...> wrote:
I think Kenyans we can make Kenya great when we join hands and walk together unlike Hon Mudavadi who said he shall never walk alone
decamped from a party that uplifted him from political oblivions when Akaranga fried him in 2002 elections ,A conflict statement.
Back to my little thinking.
I have been reasoning that since we are gearing towards an elections in 2013 why can the MPs pass a law that requires all parties to send
respective partymanifestos through post offices to Kenyans and also via parcel firms.?
This will see a boost in revenues collections both direct and indirect and KRA will have enough avenue to collect taxes to pay teachers ,soldiers etc.
Postal Corporation will see demand for its stamps go up ,their rental boxes will be active and also we shall see an increased parcels movements with other private firms like G4S,Wells Fargo and many more.
So as Kenyans let us demand all parties to send their manifestos via registered firms and this will see an increased economic activities because when this is done ,printing firms will have business,they will hire
yet he their people
,hence helping reduction of unemployment in Kenya.
It can be done let nobody tell me that democracy is suppose to be affordable hence they party manifestos should be distributed freely.
Kenyans must come up with simple ideas that will help our GDP uptick.
They say we lose Ksh 3.4 B through corruptions and other panya routes what if we sealed those loopholes then we shall have more money said to have parties pay for postal services so that their supporters can get the manifestos in their mail boxes.
-- Thanks Gibson Amenya Level Moja Solutions Skype amenya.gibson http://levelmojafinancials.kbo.co.ke
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation…" - Anonymous ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you. ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4956 - Release Date: 04/24/12 _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ikua.evans%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4958 - Release Date: 04/25/12 ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4960 - Release Date: 04/26/12 _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/mutuota%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Dakitari, As a civil servant in these fora, I am taken aback by your perception of civil servants. Kenya has changed. Civil servants have presided over the the extensive infrastructure we have today and continue to expand the same. We have seen unprecendented civil service led reforms that cannot be matched anywhere in the world. As I write a number of senior Judges are on their way out of job. The implementation of the Constitution is being done by civil servants to make this country a better place to live in. Majority of civil servants are in office at 6am and leave late while being paid a fraction of what the private sector takes home yet of late all corrupt practices point to the private sector (read local press). For your information the rot and impunity that was in civil service is dissapearing as the private sector begin to show that the problem was not just in public sector - it was a society problem. As it is said, when you point one finger at the public sector three or four of the other fingers point to you. The civil service is not the foundation of our problems. Kenyans (the society) especially the more learned ones are the problem. They point out issues without proposing solutions. They want others take risk on their behalf. They corrupt others in private and go out to condemn corruption in public. This is the hypocricy we must stop and build this country rather than vilify a section of it. ALL of the corruption in public sector has a private sector to tangle with. If you know that Ndemo hangs his coat, goes to roast meat/check how his matatu is doing, comes back 3-4 hours later, review one file, go home and for sure he will be a paid cheque at the end of the month then tell the world about it. Silence especially if you went goat eating together or you are partners in the Matatu means you approve of it. The right thing to do is to make noise about it and specifically mention the name instead of generalities. Ministers have resigned here when the public makes its views known. This is what happens in other countries. I will deal with Posta later. Ndemo.
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Re: How To Revive Postal Service Amenya
You are living in the past.
Postal services worldwide are declining and only those with futuristic leadership will enable their corporations adopt. Part of the reason is the growth of electronic communications (fast, reliable, etc.) and competition from other carriers: courier companies, etc (in fact in Kenya bus companies deliver parcels more reliably than Posta) and more.
In the advanced western economies, futuristic postal corporations have created virtual mailboxes for almost entire populations. Here one gets their bills, statements, etc electronically; documents that can be accessed via a secure web portal. Smart phone growth has been a key enabler of such services, which allow you to scan your documents, pay your bills, etc.
Two years ago we approached PCK on a similar approach. The idea was for us to help them craft a strategy to position themselves for survival in the future. Much of our strategy is based on use of technology, taking advantage of their reach across the country, agency banking, etc.
Our good general looked at us without betraying a sense of whether he understood what we were saying or not. He dispatched us to the ICT department, composed of very good knowledgeable people working under very difficult circumstances.
Long story short: we hit a brick wall.
The PCK leadership is archaic, doesn't understand business. Most of them have the civil service mentality .... hang your coat, go roast meat/check how your matatu is doing, come back 3-4 hours later, review one file, go home and for sure there will be a pay cheque at the end of the month!
Zip productivity!
I could write tons about the unrealized PCK potential but let that be for another day!
In the meantime you may wish to check the story of PostaPay which was supposed to compete with MoneyGram and Western Union in international money transfer business! We launched this with pomp ... a few years later, the same people with who we were singing songs of patriotism, were in the dock for embezzlement.
Remember the recent article I shared on why Africa lags the Asian Tigers: we eat it all!
Matunda Nyanchama
--- In NewVisionKenya@yahoogroups.com, amenya gibson <g_amenya2000@...> wrote:
I think Kenyans we can make Kenya great when we join hands and walk together unlike Hon Mudavadi who said he shall never walk alone yet he decamped from a party that uplifted him from political oblivions when Akaranga fried him in 2002 elections ,A conflict statement.
Back to my little thinking.
I have been reasoning that since we are gearing towards an elections
2013 why can the MPs pass a law that requires all parties to send
respective partymanifestos through post offices to Kenyans and also via parcel firms.?
This will see a boost in revenues collections both direct and indirect and KRA will have enough avenue to collect taxes to pay teachers ,soldiers etc.
Postal Corporation will see demand for its stamps go up ,their rental boxes will be active and also we shall see an increased parcels movements with other private firms like G4S,Wells Fargo and many more.
So as Kenyans let us demand all parties to send their manifestos via registered firms and this will see an increased economic activities because when this is done ,printing firms will have business,they will hire
in their people
,hence helping reduction of unemployment in Kenya.
It can be done let nobody tell me that democracy is suppose to be affordable hence they party manifestos should be distributed freely.
Kenyans must come up with simple ideas that will help our GDP uptick.
They say we lose Ksh 3.4 B through corruptions and other panya routes what if we sealed those loopholes then we shall have more money said to have parties pay for postal services so that their supporters can get the manifestos in their mail boxes.
-- Thanks Gibson Amenya Level Moja Solutions Skype amenya.gibson http://levelmojafinancials.kbo.co.ke
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Dakitari Ndemo I see you have changed the title of the discussion which was about PCK. This was not an attack on all civil servants. Indeed, there are very many that work their butts off; indeed even in the worst of times, we had some that kept government lights burning, otherwise government would have fallen. I saw this in my early working days, yes in the civil service. It would thus be wrong to assume the reference to civil servants means all of it is rotten. Kudos to those that keep things churning; and advancing the national agenda. That is worth applauding. The reference to the said mentality indeed came in the context of PCK where even some of their staff feel exactly what I expressed: staffing the leadership with the mentality (call it "old civil service mentality" to distinguish it from the emerging look!) so articulated, people with little understanding of business and whose jobs appear to have been "rewards" rather than based on merit. And there are many, many pockets of similar islands of ineptitude of this kind across the government. On the issue of a corrupt society, your points are well taken. In any case in corrupt deals it takes at least two to tangle! And as for names, let's leave that for another day. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info@aganoconsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation…" - Anonymous ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you. ________________________________ From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: Matunda Nyanchama <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> Cc: BPO Kenya <bpokenya@egroups.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 5:35 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Attack on Civil Servants Dakitari, As a civil servant in these fora, I am taken aback by your perception of civil servants. Kenya has changed. Civil servants have presided over the the extensive infrastructure we have today and continue to expand the same. We have seen unprecendented civil service led reforms that cannot be matched anywhere in the world. As I write a number of senior Judges are on their way out of job. The implementation of the Constitution is being done by civil servants to make this country a better place to live in. Majority of civil servants are in office at 6am and leave late while being paid a fraction of what the private sector takes home yet of late all corrupt practices point to the private sector (read local press). For your information the rot and impunity that was in civil service is dissapearing as the private sector begin to show that the problem was not just in public sector - it was a society problem. As it is said, when you point one finger at the public sector three or four of the other fingers point to you. The civil service is not the foundation of our problems. Kenyans (the society) especially the more learned ones are the problem. They point out issues without proposing solutions. They want others take risk on their behalf. They corrupt others in private and go out to condemn corruption in public. This is the hypocricy we must stop and build this country rather than vilify a section of it. ALL of the corruption in public sector has a private sector to tangle with. If you know that Ndemo hangs his coat, goes to roast meat/check how his matatu is doing, comes back 3-4 hours later, review one file, go home and for sure he will be a paid cheque at the end of the month then tell the world about it. Silence especially if you went goat eating together or you are partners in the Matatu means you approve of it. The right thing to do is to make noise about it and specifically mention the name instead of generalities. Ministers have resigned here when the public makes its views known. This is what happens in other countries. I will deal with Posta later. Ndemo.
Â
Re: How To Revive Postal Service Amenya
You are living in the past.
Postal services worldwide are declining and only those with futuristic leadership will enable their corporations adopt. Part of the reason is the growth of electronic communications (fast, reliable, etc.) and competition from other carriers: courier companies, etc (in fact in Kenya bus companies deliver parcels more reliably than Posta) and more.
In the advanced western economies, futuristic postal corporations have created virtual mailboxes for almost entire populations. Here one gets their bills, statements, etc electronically; documents that can be accessed via a secure web portal. Smart phone growth has been a key enabler of such services, which allow you to scan your documents, pay your bills, etc.
Two years ago we approached PCK on a similar approach. The idea was for us to help them craft a strategy to position themselves for survival in the future. Much of our strategy is based on use of technology, taking advantage of their reach across the country, agency banking, etc.
Our good general looked at us without betraying a sense of whether he understood what we were saying or not. He dispatched us to the ICT department, composed of very good knowledgeable people working under very difficult circumstances.
Long story short: we hit a brick wall.
The PCK leadership is archaic, doesn't understand business. Most of them have the civil service mentality .... hang your coat, go roast meat/check how your matatu is doing, come back 3-4 hours later, review one file, go home and for sure there will be a pay cheque at the end of the month!
Zip productivity!
I could write tons about the unrealized PCK potential but let that be for another day!
In the meantime you may wish to check the story of PostaPay which was supposed to compete with MoneyGram and Western Union in international money transfer business! We launched this with pomp ... a few years later, the same people with who we were singing songs of patriotism, were in the dock for embezzlement.
Remember the recent article I shared on why Africa lags the Asian Tigers: we eat it all!
Matunda Nyanchama
--- In NewVisionKenya@yahoogroups.com, amenya gibson <g_amenya2000@...> wrote:
I think Kenyans we can make Kenya great when we join hands and walk together unlike Hon Mudavadi who said he shall never walk alone yet he decamped from a party that uplifted him from political oblivions when Akaranga fried him in 2002 elections ,A conflict statement.
Back to my little thinking.
I have been reasoning that since we are gearing towards an elections
2013 why can the MPs pass a law that requires all parties to send
respective partymanifestos through post offices to Kenyans and also via parcel firms.?
This will see a boost in revenues collections both direct and indirect and KRA will have enough avenue to collect taxes to pay teachers ,soldiers etc.
Postal Corporation will see demand for its stamps go up ,their rental boxes will be active and also we shall see an increased parcels movements with other private firms like G4S,Wells Fargo and many more.
So as Kenyans let us demand all parties to send their manifestos via registered firms and this will see an increased economic activities because when this is done ,printing firms will have business,they will hire
in their people
,hence helping reduction of unemployment in Kenya.
It can be done let nobody tell me that democracy is suppose to be affordable hence they party manifestos should be distributed freely.
Kenyans must come up with simple ideas that will help our GDP uptick.
They say we lose Ksh 3.4 B through corruptions and other panya routes what if we sealed those loopholes then we shall have more money said to have parties pay for postal services so that their supporters can get the manifestos in their mail boxes.
-- Thanks Gibson Amenya Level Moja Solutions Skype amenya.gibson http://levelmojafinancials.kbo.co.ke
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