From: Edwin Onchari
<eonchari@lynxbits.com>
To: mutuota@yahoo.com
Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; 'BPO Kenya' <bpokenya@egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service
Dkt,
As we all deliberate on which prong of the fork to take, I believe that if the independent body was to become off a parliamentary process, then the government will be bound to fund it. Such a body will have the independence to provide oversight and alignment of ICT initiatives to carry us forward.
From: Matunda Nyanchama [mailto:mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 4:23
PM
To: Edwin Onchari
Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'; 'BPO Kenya'
Subject: Re: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service
I think I will let others speak.
In my experience when we have reached such "forks in the road" a few people (passionate enough with the idea) retreat to a corner, explore possibilities, come with recommendations/options/etc. And then there is a vote (adoption you may say) and a decision is reached and whatever is resolved moves to the next level: implementation.
On government "seed money" you are
right about prospects because (mainly) this has not been the tradition of our government. It doesn't mean it cannot be done. In some countries government even funds organizations that challenge its own decisions in court in order to test/establish the legality/support for those positions. It is a form of transparency.
Talking of forks in a road, one Yogi Berra says thus (or something to that effect): when you get to a
fork in a road, take it!
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From: Edwin Onchari <eonchari@lynxbits.com>
To: 'Matunda Nyanchama' <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com>
Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; 'BPO Kenya' <bpokenya@egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 3:35 AM
Subject: RE: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service
I believe Dr. Waudo in this forum is still
with CSK probably he could shed more light on the ability of the organization to run with this; and as of KIF, the last time I checked, it was a 1 man show!...that said, a body that would act on ideas herein shared, has to be funded and from my past experience with such industry bodies, I know that the government will never fund it. Also, this becoming a lobby organization representing a very broad sector by definition; do not count on member contributions…so how then do we get things off the ground?
From: kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Matunda Nyanchama
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 4:13 PM
To: Edwin
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; BPO Kenya
Subject: Re: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service
I don't hear much from CSK nor from KIF; and perhaps those need to be strengthened. However, as I have said, ICT is such a crucial sector it needs its own industry-related body to ensure appropriate level of focus.
And what you say be me the way to go. However, (and I am not sure this hasn't taken place) there is a need for adoption (or otherwise) of the report and its recommendations.
Secondly, there needs to be way of seamlessly linking recommendations/suggestions/actions/etc floated and adopted here to implementation, be it via KIF, CSK, or a transformed KICTanet.
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From: Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com>
To: Matunda Nyanchama <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service
Daktari,
I believe there is an ICT arm in KEPSA called KIF (Kenya ICT Federation)? This, or CSK, is the body that needs to be reformed so that it takes everybody on board, and then KICKTANet can remain as a networking forum, maybe within the bigger body or something like that.
Just my thoughts.
Evans
The Summit Strategies report shared with us here recently made some very pertinent recommendations. I think KICTAnet has a real opportunity if it transforms itself as per recommendations. The forum would remain as a means of information sharing.
It is also in line with previous discussions regarding creation of
a ICT industry body with focus on technology policy, advocacy (?), etc on behalf of the industry; a kind of KEPSA with focus on technology. Someone may ask why not play within KEPSA? My answer: ICT is so core to the national economy and large enough to warrant such a body. This is what Canada (the market I am most familiar with) has with what is called Canadian Technology Alliance (CATA).
I know
funding would be an issue, especially at the teething stages. And one proposal would be for GoK to offer seed money and funding for a period (say 3~5 years) within which the body would have established long-term financing.
And with proper governance, we can then hold those that lead the organization to account. It would give Harry Hare's ideas some landing patch and chance for implementation.
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If we stay the course we’ll achieve something- unfortunately we never do. I believe a while back in this very same
forum there was a wealthy discussion on how to turn around PCK and even one members had championed to be elected PMG, those ideas are now archives credit to our short-term memory! Brilliant discussions and no action is just as bad as shutting up and putting up with the status quo….and I am almost certain that the concerned parties who form the bulk of this forum’s “lurkers” are all smiles because they are certain that no matter how loud we whine, being Kenyan, nothing is going to happen.
Re: How To Revive Postal Service
Amenya
You are living in the past.
Postal services worldwide are declining and only those with futuristic
leadership will enable their corporations adopt. Part of the reason is
the growth
of electronic communications (fast, reliable, etc.) and
competition from other carriers: courier companies, etc (in fact in
Kenya bus companies deliver parcels more reliably than Posta) and more.
In the advanced western economies, futuristic postal corporations have
created virtual mailboxes for almost entire populations. Here one gets
their bills, statements, etc electronically; documents that can be
accessed via a secure web portal. Smart phone growth has been a key
enabler of such services, which allow you to scan your documents, pay
your bills,
etc.
Two years ago we approached PCK on a similar approach. The idea was for
us to help them craft a strategy to position themselves for survival in
the future. Much of our strategy is based on use of technology, taking
advantage of their reach across the country, agency banking, etc.
Our good general looked at us without betraying a sense of whether he
understood what we were saying or not. He dispatched us to the ICT
department, composed of very good knowledgeable people working under
very difficult circumstances.
Long story short: we hit a brick wall.
The PCK leadership is archaic, doesn't understand business. Most of them
have the civil service mentality .... hang your coat, go roast
meat/check how your matatu is doing, come back 3-4 hours later, review
one file, go home and for sure there will be a pay cheque at the end of
the month!
Zip productivity!
I could write tons about
the unrealized PCK potential but let that be
for another day!
In the meantime you may wish to check the story of PostaPay which was
supposed to compete with MoneyGram and Western Union in international
money transfer business! We launched this with pomp ... a few years
later, the same people with who we were singing songs of patriotism,
were in the dock for embezzlement.
Remember the recent article I shared on why Africa lags the Asian
Tigers: we eat it all!
Matunda Nyanchama
--- In NewVisionKenya@yahoogroups.com, amenya gibson <g_amenya2000@...>
wrote:
>
> I think Kenyans we can make Kenya great when we join hands and walk
> together unlike Hon Mudavadi who said he shall never walk alone
yet he
> decamped from a party that uplifted him from political oblivions when
> Akaranga fried him in 2002 elections ,A conflict statement.
>
> Back to my little thinking.
>
> I have been reasoning that since we are gearing towards an elections
in
> 2013 why can the MPs pass a law that requires all parties to send
their
> respective partymanifestos through post offices to Kenyans and also
via
> parcel firms.?
>
> This will see a boost in revenues collections both direct and
indirect and
> KRA will have enough avenue to collect taxes to pay teachers ,soldiers
etc.
>
> Postal Corporation will see demand for its stamps go up ,their rental
> boxes will be active and also we shall see an increased parcels
movements
> with other private firms like G4S,Wells Fargo and many more.
>
> So as Kenyans let us demand all parties to send their
manifestos via
> registered firms and this will see an increased economic activities
because
> when this is done ,printing firms will have business,they will hire
people
> ,hence helping reduction of unemployment in Kenya.
>
> It can be done let nobody tell me that democracy is suppose to be
> affordable hence they party manifestos should be distributed freely.
>
> Kenyans must come up with simple ideas that will help our GDP uptick.
>
> They say we lose Ksh 3.4 B through corruptions and other panya routes
what
> if we sealed those loopholes then we shall have more money said to
have
> parties pay for postal services so that their supporters can get the
> manifestos in their mail boxes.
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks
> Gibson Amenya
> Level Moja Solutions
> Skype amenya.gibson
> http://levelmojafinancials.kbo.co.ke
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