Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed?
Can we really blame ICT when the true culprit appears to be the lack of proper testing of the systems in play? IEBC could have performance tested (both load and stress) their systems to see how they would react under varying loads. The tools and human resources were right there in Kenya but it is obvious we failed to apply them to help create a different result than what we currently face. What we are witnessing is a classic case of what happens when we fail to adequately test our applications. Our non-conformance cost skyrockets...IEBC now has to worry about the cost of doing damage control on the biggest stage ever when it could have spent a fraction of the same cost to perform load or stress tests which would have helped them identify issues/bottlenecks in their systems long before now. This is also not much different from what some of our local companies do...we deploy critical systems without proper testing and we then pray and hope nothing happens. It is saddening that we don't see much value in setting aside adequate time for testing our applications (most especially those that are customer-facing) or we push whatever little testing we do to the very last minute when its practically too late to make any difference...or until the "s..." hits the ceiling and we then start to wonder why any of our issues could be happening. Could we really blame ICT here or should we be looking closely at our lack of proper software testing? - Roland ------Original Message------ From: Edith Adera Sender: kictanet To: Roland Omoresemi Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed? Sent: Mar 6, 2013 12:55 AM Listers, It is a shame that for the first time in Kenya's history when IT is given a chance to bring credibility and efficiency in the electoral process, ICT has failed SPECTACULARLY! what went wrong? Edith _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/roland%40tezzasolution... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. --------------------------------------------- Roland Omoresemi | CEO Tezza Business Solutions Ltd p: +19139612234 e: roland@tezzasolutions.com w: http://www.softwaretestingafrica.com skype: banfii gmail: rolandomoresemi@gmail.com
Roland The governance experts are saying - lack of governance The networking experts are saying - lets get better VPNS The server experts are saying - we should have used HP or SUN or IBM The database experts are concerned Oracle was used (Open Source Guys would want MySQL) Software Developers - why use language X and not you Software Testers - want more testing Everyone is pitching their wares ... no one is sure what happened ....... ... and the job is over this week :) On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Roland Omoresemi <roland@tezzasolutions.com
wrote:
Can we really blame ICT when the true culprit appears to be the lack of proper testing of the systems in play?
IEBC could have performance tested (both load and stress) their systems to see how they would react under varying loads.
The tools and human resources were right there in Kenya but it is obvious we failed to apply them to help create a different result than what we currently face.
What we are witnessing is a classic case of what happens when we fail to adequately test our applications. Our non-conformance cost skyrockets...IEBC now has to worry about the cost of doing damage control on the biggest stage ever when it could have spent a fraction of the same cost to perform load or stress tests which would have helped them identify issues/bottlenecks in their systems long before now.
This is also not much different from what some of our local companies do...we deploy critical systems without proper testing and we then pray and hope nothing happens.
It is saddening that we don't see much value in setting aside adequate time for testing our applications (most especially those that are customer-facing) or we push whatever little testing we do to the very last minute when its practically too late to make any difference...or until the "s..." hits the ceiling and we then start to wonder why any of our issues could be happening.
Could we really blame ICT here or should we be looking closely at our lack of proper software testing?
- Roland ------Original Message------ From: Edith Adera Sender: kictanet To: Roland Omoresemi Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed? Sent: Mar 6, 2013 12:55 AM
Listers,
It is a shame that for the first time in Kenya's history when IT is given a chance to bring credibility and efficiency in the electoral process, ICT has failed SPECTACULARLY!
what went wrong?
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Listers, I beg to differ here. It is about time we became perfectionists and stopped making excuses for our failure to ensure that the system was FULLY functional before the actual election took place. It is true that systems fail but in this case, it never really worked properly RIGHT FROM THE ONSET. If we keep adopting this attitude that 'systems fail' how will the processes and efficiencies ever be improved? It is wise to accept our weaknesses so we can improve on them. The moment the writing was on the wall, IEBC ICT Team should have advised of the risk of proceeding with the failing system in order for them to simply announce that they would have to run the elections on a dully manual system-expectations must always be managed, especially knowing how crucial these particular elections are for every party. Why is it that we don't normally read that systems failed during elections in all other countries. Probably because they fully prepare and have back up systems that work I event one fails! Regards, Gilda Odera On Mar 6, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Erik Hersman <erik@zungu.com> wrote:
Agreed with Evans here.
Every single tech system has problems, that IEBC does as well should be no surprise. I've been spending last night and this morning trying to better understand how the IEBC's data flow works, their lack of clarity here is the only problem that I can find. You can see my questions, sources and even the IEBC RFP for the system here: http://iebctechkenya.tumblr.com/
Polling station uses Safaricom SIM cards » App installed in phone, proprietary software from IFES » Transmitted via Safaricom’s VPN » Servers hosted/managed by Next Technologies (needs confirmation) » Google hosted website at http://vote.iebc.or.ke » Google hosted API at http://api.iebc.or.ke
You'll note that, besides the IEBC itself, there are at least 4 (large) organizations that have to be in sync in order for the system to work (Safaricom, IFES, Next Technologies, and Google). That's no small task, and as you can see by the list of companies involved, these are largely not local companies.
Erik Hersman
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On Mar 6, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com> wrote:
Edith, I beg to differ. Its not ICT that has failed here. Its the processes. Just throwing some expensive servers and plenty of bandwidth at a problem will not solve it. The top leadership has to fully understand their organization's ICT strategy. They have to internalize the opportunities that technology brings to the table, as well as the inherent risks that come with it. This cannot be left to techies, however good they may be. The reason being that if the organization that you lead fails (and the reason was technology), its you who is answerable, not the techies. This is the spirit of IT Governance.
It would be interesting to know if the IEBC commissioners fully understand the risks of the technologies that they are relying on. Let us not blame the technology.
Evans
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote: Listers,
It is a shame that for the first time in Kenya's history when IT is given a chance to bring credibility and efficiency in the electoral process, ICT has failed SPECTACULARLY!
what went wrong?
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Regards, Gilda Odera Regards, Gilda Odera On Mar 6, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com> wrote:
Roland
The governance experts are saying - lack of governance
The networking experts are saying - lets get better VPNS
The server experts are saying - we should have used HP or SUN or IBM
The database experts are concerned Oracle was used (Open Source Guys would want MySQL)
Software Developers - why use language X and not you
Software Testers - want more testing
Everyone is pitching their wares ... no one is sure what happened ....... ... and the job is over this week :)
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Roland Omoresemi <roland@tezzasolutions.com> wrote: Can we really blame ICT when the true culprit appears to be the lack of proper testing of the systems in play?
IEBC could have performance tested (both load and stress) their systems to see how they would react under varying loads.
The tools and human resources were right there in Kenya but it is obvious we failed to apply them to help create a different result than what we currently face.
What we are witnessing is a classic case of what happens when we fail to adequately test our applications. Our non-conformance cost skyrockets...IEBC now has to worry about the cost of doing damage control on the biggest stage ever when it could have spent a fraction of the same cost to perform load or stress tests which would have helped them identify issues/bottlenecks in their systems long before now.
This is also not much different from what some of our local companies do...we deploy critical systems without proper testing and we then pray and hope nothing happens.
It is saddening that we don't see much value in setting aside adequate time for testing our applications (most especially those that are customer-facing) or we push whatever little testing we do to the very last minute when its practically too late to make any difference...or until the "s..." hits the ceiling and we then start to wonder why any of our issues could be happening.
Could we really blame ICT here or should we be looking closely at our lack of proper software testing?
- Roland ------Original Message------ From: Edith Adera Sender: kictanet To: Roland Omoresemi Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed? Sent: Mar 6, 2013 12:55 AM
Listers,
It is a shame that for the first time in Kenya's history when IT is given a chance to bring credibility and efficiency in the electoral process, ICT has failed SPECTACULARLY!
what went wrong?
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Listers, Let us have the facts right. This is what IEBC assured Kenyans and observers about the electronic system (see in red). In NAIROBI, Kenya, Feb 26 Addressing a press briefing during a meeting with members of the East Africa Community observer group, Hassan reiterated that the relaying of election results will be effective and ruled out a repeat of the confusion witnessed in the 2007 General Election. The chairman said that their electronic system for transmitting results was fool proof with near-zero chances of being interfered with or manipulated. He added that phones to be used by returning officers had been configured to particular destinations and that only data verified by agents of candidates and parties will be transmitted, hence it was technically impossible to rig the election. “This system has been used by the commission from 2010 until now. And we have two back-ups for our system. One is going to be at Bomas, the other is in the head office and a third one is outside the office. So we have put in place enough back-ups and security measures to ensure that this does not fail us,” he said. Full article at http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2013/02/distribution-of-ballots-starts-thurs... Sunday, February 10 2013 at 00:30 IEBC chief executive officer James Oswago says the systems had been fully tested and assured Kenyans of successful elections. “We are fully prepared for the elections and the systems we have put in place will not fail,” he said Full article at http://elections.nation.co.ke/news/IEBC-moves-to-guard-against-fake-ballot-p... What happened to this near 100% confidence? Where’s the back-up? Edith From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Gilda Odera Sent: March 6, 2013 10:42 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed? Listers, I beg to differ here. It is about time we became perfectionists and stopped making excuses for our failure to ensure that the system was FULLY functional before the actual election took place. It is true that systems fail but in this case, it never really worked properly RIGHT FROM THE ONSET. If we keep adopting this attitude that 'systems fail' how will the processes and efficiencies ever be improved? It is wise to accept our weaknesses so we can improve on them. The moment the writing was on the wall, IEBC ICT Team should have advised of the risk of proceeding with the failing system in order for them to simply announce that they would have to run the elections on a dully manual system-expectations must always be managed, especially knowing how crucial these particular elections are for every party. Why is it that we don't normally read that systems failed during elections in all other countries. Probably because they fully prepare and have back up systems that work I event one fails! Regards, Gilda Odera On Mar 6, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Erik Hersman <erik@zungu.com<mailto:erik@zungu.com>> wrote: Agreed with Evans here. Every single tech system has problems, that IEBC does as well should be no surprise. I've been spending last night and this morning trying to better understand how the IEBC's data flow works, their lack of clarity here is the only problem that I can find. You can see my questions, sources and even the IEBC RFP for the system here: http://iebctechkenya.tumblr.com/ • Polling station uses Safaricom SIM cards » • App installed in phone, proprietary software from IFES » • Transmitted via Safaricom’s VPN » • Servers hosted/managed by Next Technologies (needs confirmation) » • Google hosted website at http://vote.iebc.or.ke<http://vote.iebc.or.ke/> » • Google hosted API at http://api.iebc.or.ke<http://api.iebc.or.ke/> You'll note that, besides the IEBC itself, there are at least 4 (large) organizations that have to be in sync in order for the system to work (Safaricom, IFES, Next Technologies, and Google). That's no small task, and as you can see by the list of companies involved, these are largely not local companies. Erik Hersman www.ushahidi.com<http://www.ushahidi.com/> | www.iHub.co.ke<http://www.ihub.co.ke/> www.whiteafrican.com<http://www.afrigadget.com/> | @whiteafrican<http://twitter.com/whiteafrican> On Mar 6, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com<mailto:ikua.evans@gmail.com>> wrote: Edith, I beg to differ. Its not ICT that has failed here. Its the processes. Just throwing some expensive servers and plenty of bandwidth at a problem will not solve it. The top leadership has to fully understand their organization's ICT strategy. They have to internalize the opportunities that technology brings to the table, as well as the inherent risks that come with it. This cannot be left to techies, however good they may be. The reason being that if the organization that you lead fails (and the reason was technology), its you who is answerable, not the techies. This is the spirit of IT Governance. It would be interesting to know if the IEBC commissioners fully understand the risks of the technologies that they are relying on. Let us not blame the technology. Evans On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca<mailto:eadera@idrc.ca>> wrote: Listers, It is a shame that for the first time in Kenya's history when IT is given a chance to bring credibility and efficiency in the electoral process, ICT has failed SPECTACULARLY! what went wrong? Edith _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ikua.evans%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- ---------------------------------------------------- Kind Regards, Evans Ikua, lanetconsulting.com<http://lanetconsulting.com/>, lpi-eastafrica.org<http://lpi-eastafrica.org/>, ict-innovation.fossfa.net<http://ict-innovation.fossfa.net/>, Skype: @ikuae Cell: +254-722-955831 _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/erik%40zungu.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _________________ Regards, Gilda Odera Regards, Gilda Odera On Mar 6, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com<mailto:agostal@gmail.com>> wrote: Roland The governance experts are saying - lack of governance The networking experts are saying - lets get better VPNS The server experts are saying - we should have used HP or SUN or IBM The database experts are concerned Oracle was used (Open Source Guys would want MySQL) Software Developers - why use language X and not you Software Testers - want more testing Everyone is pitching their wares ... no one is sure what happened ....... ... and the job is over this week :) On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Roland Omoresemi <roland@tezzasolutions.com<mailto:roland@tezzasolutions.com>> wrote: Can we really blame ICT when the true culprit appears to be the lack of proper testing of the systems in play? IEBC could have performance tested (both load and stress) their systems to see how they would react under varying loads. The tools and human resources were right there in Kenya but it is obvious we failed to apply them to help create a different result than what we currently face. What we are witnessing is a classic case of what happens when we fail to adequately test our applications. Our non-conformance cost skyrockets...IEBC now has to worry about the cost of doing damage control on the biggest stage ever when it could have spent a fraction of the same cost to perform load or stress tests which would have helped them identify issues/bottlenecks in their systems long before now. This is also not much different from what some of our local companies do...we deploy critical systems without proper testing and we then pray and hope nothing happens. It is saddening that we don't see much value in setting aside adequate time for testing our applications (most especially those that are customer-facing) or we push whatever little testing we do to the very last minute when its practically too late to make any difference...or until the "s..." hits the ceiling and we then start to wonder why any of our issues could be happening. Could we really blame ICT here or should we be looking closely at our lack of proper software testing? - Roland ------Original Message------ From: Edith Adera Sender: kictanet To: Roland Omoresemi Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed? Sent: Mar 6, 2013 12:55 AM Listers, It is a shame that for the first time in Kenya's history when IT is given a chance to bring credibility and efficiency in the electoral process, ICT has failed SPECTACULARLY! what went wrong? 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KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. --------------------------------------------- Roland Omoresemi | CEO Tezza Business Solutions Ltd p: +19139612234<tel:%2B19139612234> e: roland@tezzasolutions.com<mailto:roland@tezzasolutions.com> w: http://www.softwaretestingafrica.com skype: banfii gmail: rolandomoresemi@gmail.com<mailto:rolandomoresemi@gmail.com> _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/agostal%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/godera%40skyweb.co.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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Now, there is loads of information that is becoming available about the system. I am sharing more that has come my way: 1. The RFP used to source a vendor: http://buyersguide.ifes.org/procurement_pdf/1356124968.pdf 2. RFP was closing only 4th January, 2013, yes..only this January 3. An external party (US based) that seems to have been fully involved in the entire procurement process and i would imagine implementation as well is http://www.ifes.org/. See all details about their role in the RFP and others on their website. 4. Project was USAID funded. 5. A good blog with several discussions on this: http://iebctechkenya.tumblr.com/ 6. Stories on media that never caught quick attention: http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/article-108148/iebc-must-fix-results-transmis... , http://tinyurl.com/d9va4k4 Before we blame anybody or feel sorry for any party, Please lets do a thorough review of the ongoings. I am sure we shall then address the IT problem in this case. On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com> wrote:
Roland
The governance experts are saying - lack of governance
The networking experts are saying - lets get better VPNS
The server experts are saying - we should have used HP or SUN or IBM
The database experts are concerned Oracle was used (Open Source Guys would want MySQL)
Software Developers - why use language X and not you
Software Testers - want more testing
Everyone is pitching their wares ... no one is sure what happened ....... ... and the job is over this week :)
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Roland Omoresemi < roland@tezzasolutions.com> wrote:
Can we really blame ICT when the true culprit appears to be the lack of proper testing of the systems in play?
IEBC could have performance tested (both load and stress) their systems to see how they would react under varying loads.
The tools and human resources were right there in Kenya but it is obvious we failed to apply them to help create a different result than what we currently face.
What we are witnessing is a classic case of what happens when we fail to adequately test our applications. Our non-conformance cost skyrockets...IEBC now has to worry about the cost of doing damage control on the biggest stage ever when it could have spent a fraction of the same cost to perform load or stress tests which would have helped them identify issues/bottlenecks in their systems long before now.
This is also not much different from what some of our local companies do...we deploy critical systems without proper testing and we then pray and hope nothing happens.
It is saddening that we don't see much value in setting aside adequate time for testing our applications (most especially those that are customer-facing) or we push whatever little testing we do to the very last minute when its practically too late to make any difference...or until the "s..." hits the ceiling and we then start to wonder why any of our issues could be happening.
Could we really blame ICT here or should we be looking closely at our lack of proper software testing?
- Roland ------Original Message------ From: Edith Adera Sender: kictanet To: Roland Omoresemi Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed? Sent: Mar 6, 2013 12:55 AM
Listers,
It is a shame that for the first time in Kenya's history when IT is given a chance to bring credibility and efficiency in the electoral process, ICT has failed SPECTACULARLY!
what went wrong?
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And when I say plan, it extends beyond IEBC. If the timing was too short to test properly as I see here below, I expected the ICT team to brief the Chairman of IEBC of the risk involved and for him to inform the public that much as they wanted an electronic voting system, the finances must be made available early enough and so they have no choice to go but to go manual. The buck then shifts to Treasury who must be pressurized to perform their functions effectively. This involves more people than just the IEBC though they will now take the beating for accepting to use a system that had not properly been tested. Regards, Gilda Odera On Mar 6, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
Now, there is loads of information that is becoming available about the system. I am sharing more that has come my way:
The RFP used to source a vendor: http://buyersguide.ifes.org/procurement_pdf/1356124968.pdf RFP was closing only 4th January, 2013, yes..only this January An external party (US based) that seems to have been fully involved in the entire procurement process and i would imagine implementation as well is http://www.ifes.org/. See all details about their role in the RFP and others on their website. Project was USAID funded. A good blog with several discussions on this: http://iebctechkenya.tumblr.com/ Stories on media that never caught quick attention: http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/article-108148/iebc-must-fix-results-transmis..., http://tinyurl.com/d9va4k4 Before we blame anybody or feel sorry for any party, Please lets do a thorough review of the ongoings. I am sure we shall then address the IT problem in this case.
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com> wrote: Roland
The governance experts are saying - lack of governance
The networking experts are saying - lets get better VPNS
The server experts are saying - we should have used HP or SUN or IBM
The database experts are concerned Oracle was used (Open Source Guys would want MySQL)
Software Developers - why use language X and not you
Software Testers - want more testing
Everyone is pitching their wares ... no one is sure what happened ....... ... and the job is over this week :)
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Roland Omoresemi <roland@tezzasolutions.com> wrote: Can we really blame ICT when the true culprit appears to be the lack of proper testing of the systems in play?
IEBC could have performance tested (both load and stress) their systems to see how they would react under varying loads.
The tools and human resources were right there in Kenya but it is obvious we failed to apply them to help create a different result than what we currently face.
What we are witnessing is a classic case of what happens when we fail to adequately test our applications. Our non-conformance cost skyrockets...IEBC now has to worry about the cost of doing damage control on the biggest stage ever when it could have spent a fraction of the same cost to perform load or stress tests which would have helped them identify issues/bottlenecks in their systems long before now.
This is also not much different from what some of our local companies do...we deploy critical systems without proper testing and we then pray and hope nothing happens.
It is saddening that we don't see much value in setting aside adequate time for testing our applications (most especially those that are customer-facing) or we push whatever little testing we do to the very last minute when its practically too late to make any difference...or until the "s..." hits the ceiling and we then start to wonder why any of our issues could be happening.
Could we really blame ICT here or should we be looking closely at our lack of proper software testing?
- Roland ------Original Message------ From: Edith Adera Sender: kictanet To: Roland Omoresemi Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed? Sent: Mar 6, 2013 12:55 AM
Listers,
It is a shame that for the first time in Kenya's history when IT is given a chance to bring credibility and efficiency in the electoral process, ICT has failed SPECTACULARLY!
what went wrong?
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Anyone saw this article and can verify content - i missed the press conference http://www.techmtaa.com/2013/03/07/kenyadecides-iebc-chairman-admitted-on-li... ________________________________________ From: kictanet [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] on behalf of Gilda Odera [godera@skyweb.co.ke] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 8:02 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed? And when I say plan, it extends beyond IEBC. If the timing was too short to test properly as I see here below, I expected the ICT team to brief the Chairman of IEBC of the risk involved and for him to inform the public that much as they wanted an electronic voting system, the finances must be made available early enough and so they have no choice to go but to go manual. The buck then shifts to Treasury who must be pressurized to perform their functions effectively. This involves more people than just the IEBC though they will now take the beating for accepting to use a system that had not properly been tested. Regards, Gilda Odera On Mar 6, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com<mailto:dmuthoni@gmail.com>> wrote: Now, there is loads of information that is becoming available about the system. I am sharing more that has come my way: 1. The RFP used to source a vendor: http://buyersguide.ifes.org/procurement_pdf/1356124968.pdf 2. RFP was closing only 4th January, 2013, yes..only this January 3. An external party (US based) that seems to have been fully involved in the entire procurement process and i would imagine implementation as well is http://www.ifes.org/. See all details about their role in the RFP and others on their website. 4. Project was USAID funded. 5. A good blog with several discussions on this: http://iebctechkenya.tumblr.com/ 6. Stories on media that never caught quick attention: http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/article-108148/iebc-must-fix-results-transmis..., http://tinyurl.com/d9va4k4 Before we blame anybody or feel sorry for any party, Please lets do a thorough review of the ongoings. I am sure we shall then address the IT problem in this case. On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com<mailto:agostal@gmail.com>> wrote: Roland The governance experts are saying - lack of governance The networking experts are saying - lets get better VPNS The server experts are saying - we should have used HP or SUN or IBM The database experts are concerned Oracle was used (Open Source Guys would want MySQL) Software Developers - why use language X and not you Software Testers - want more testing Everyone is pitching their wares ... no one is sure what happened ....... ... and the job is over this week :) On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Roland Omoresemi <roland@tezzasolutions.com<mailto:roland@tezzasolutions.com>> wrote: Can we really blame ICT when the true culprit appears to be the lack of proper testing of the systems in play? IEBC could have performance tested (both load and stress) their systems to see how they would react under varying loads. The tools and human resources were right there in Kenya but it is obvious we failed to apply them to help create a different result than what we currently face. What we are witnessing is a classic case of what happens when we fail to adequately test our applications. Our non-conformance cost skyrockets...IEBC now has to worry about the cost of doing damage control on the biggest stage ever when it could have spent a fraction of the same cost to perform load or stress tests which would have helped them identify issues/bottlenecks in their systems long before now. This is also not much different from what some of our local companies do...we deploy critical systems without proper testing and we then pray and hope nothing happens. It is saddening that we don't see much value in setting aside adequate time for testing our applications (most especially those that are customer-facing) or we push whatever little testing we do to the very last minute when its practically too late to make any difference...or until the "s..." hits the ceiling and we then start to wonder why any of our issues could be happening. Could we really blame ICT here or should we be looking closely at our lack of proper software testing? - Roland ------Original Message------ From: Edith Adera Sender: kictanet To: Roland Omoresemi Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed? Sent: Mar 6, 2013 12:55 AM Listers, It is a shame that for the first time in Kenya's history when IT is given a chance to bring credibility and efficiency in the electoral process, ICT has failed SPECTACULARLY! what went wrong? 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KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. --------------------------------------------- Roland Omoresemi | CEO Tezza Business Solutions Ltd p: +19139612234<tel:%2B19139612234> e: roland@tezzasolutions.com<mailto:roland@tezzasolutions.com> w: http://www.softwaretestingafrica.com skype: banfii gmail: rolandomoresemi@gmail.com<mailto:rolandomoresemi@gmail.com> _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/agostal%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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I watched the press conference and the chairman made no such admission. He actually refuted any claim that they system was hacked. But he did make it known that the database queries that were displaying data for rejected votes was multiplying the number of rejected votes entered by 8, this flaw, apparently being an admission from the IT team... Best regards, Brian On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:11 PM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
Anyone saw this article and can verify content - i missed the press conference
http://www.techmtaa.com/2013/03/07/kenyadecides-iebc-chairman-admitted-on-li...
________________________________________ From: kictanet [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] on behalf of Gilda Odera [godera@skyweb.co.ke] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 8:02 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed?
And when I say plan, it extends beyond IEBC. If the timing was too short to test properly as I see here below, I expected the ICT team to brief the Chairman of IEBC of the risk involved and for him to inform the public that much as they wanted an electronic voting system, the finances must be made available early enough and so they have no choice to go but to go manual. The buck then shifts to Treasury who must be pressurized to perform their functions effectively. This involves more people than just the IEBC though they will now take the beating for accepting to use a system that had not properly been tested.
Regards,
Gilda Odera
On Mar 6, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com<mailto: dmuthoni@gmail.com>> wrote:
Now, there is loads of information that is becoming available about the system. I am sharing more that has come my way:
1. The RFP used to source a vendor: http://buyersguide.ifes.org/procurement_pdf/1356124968.pdf 2. RFP was closing only 4th January, 2013, yes..only this January 3. An external party (US based) that seems to have been fully involved in the entire procurement process and i would imagine implementation as well is http://www.ifes.org/. See all details about their role in the RFP and others on their website. 4. Project was USAID funded. 5. A good blog with several discussions on this: http://iebctechkenya.tumblr.com/ 6. Stories on media that never caught quick attention: http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/article-108148/iebc-must-fix-results-transmis..., http://tinyurl.com/d9va4k4
Before we blame anybody or feel sorry for any party, Please lets do a thorough review of the ongoings. I am sure we shall then address the IT problem in this case.
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com<mailto: agostal@gmail.com>> wrote: Roland
The governance experts are saying - lack of governance
The networking experts are saying - lets get better VPNS
The server experts are saying - we should have used HP or SUN or IBM
The database experts are concerned Oracle was used (Open Source Guys would want MySQL)
Software Developers - why use language X and not you
Software Testers - want more testing
Everyone is pitching their wares ... no one is sure what happened ....... ... and the job is over this week :)
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Roland Omoresemi < roland@tezzasolutions.com<mailto:roland@tezzasolutions.com>> wrote: Can we really blame ICT when the true culprit appears to be the lack of proper testing of the systems in play?
IEBC could have performance tested (both load and stress) their systems to see how they would react under varying loads.
The tools and human resources were right there in Kenya but it is obvious we failed to apply them to help create a different result than what we currently face.
What we are witnessing is a classic case of what happens when we fail to adequately test our applications. Our non-conformance cost skyrockets...IEBC now has to worry about the cost of doing damage control on the biggest stage ever when it could have spent a fraction of the same cost to perform load or stress tests which would have helped them identify issues/bottlenecks in their systems long before now.
This is also not much different from what some of our local companies do...we deploy critical systems without proper testing and we then pray and hope nothing happens.
It is saddening that we don't see much value in setting aside adequate time for testing our applications (most especially those that are customer-facing) or we push whatever little testing we do to the very last minute when its practically too late to make any difference...or until the "s..." hits the ceiling and we then start to wonder why any of our issues could be happening.
Could we really blame ICT here or should we be looking closely at our lack of proper software testing?
- Roland ------Original Message------ From: Edith Adera Sender: kictanet To: Roland Omoresemi Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed? Sent: Mar 6, 2013 12:55 AM
Listers,
It is a shame that for the first time in Kenya's history when IT is given a chance to bring credibility and efficiency in the electoral process, ICT has failed SPECTACULARLY!
what went wrong?
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I personally heard this from the IEBC Chairman and was not amused. Such things don't just happen - definitely somebody somewhere, either after the testing or before, added this line of code in the system. For me, with such issues, it was better abandoned - to at least save the integrity of the process. Best Regards, Davis M Onsakia "One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time." On 7 March 2013 20:11, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
Anyone saw this article and can verify content - i missed the press conference
http://www.techmtaa.com/2013/03/07/kenyadecides-iebc-chairman-admitted-on-li...
________________________________________ From: kictanet [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] on behalf of Gilda Odera [godera@skyweb.co.ke] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 8:02 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed?
And when I say plan, it extends beyond IEBC. If the timing was too short to test properly as I see here below, I expected the ICT team to brief the Chairman of IEBC of the risk involved and for him to inform the public that much as they wanted an electronic voting system, the finances must be made available early enough and so they have no choice to go but to go manual. The buck then shifts to Treasury who must be pressurized to perform their functions effectively. This involves more people than just the IEBC though they will now take the beating for accepting to use a system that had not properly been tested.
Regards,
Gilda Odera
On Mar 6, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com<mailto: dmuthoni@gmail.com>> wrote:
Now, there is loads of information that is becoming available about the system. I am sharing more that has come my way:
1. The RFP used to source a vendor: http://buyersguide.ifes.org/procurement_pdf/1356124968.pdf 2. RFP was closing only 4th January, 2013, yes..only this January 3. An external party (US based) that seems to have been fully involved in the entire procurement process and i would imagine implementation as well is http://www.ifes.org/. See all details about their role in the RFP and others on their website. 4. Project was USAID funded. 5. A good blog with several discussions on this: http://iebctechkenya.tumblr.com/ 6. Stories on media that never caught quick attention: http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/article-108148/iebc-must-fix-results-transmis..., http://tinyurl.com/d9va4k4
Before we blame anybody or feel sorry for any party, Please lets do a thorough review of the ongoings. I am sure we shall then address the IT problem in this case.
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com<mailto: agostal@gmail.com>> wrote: Roland
The governance experts are saying - lack of governance
The networking experts are saying - lets get better VPNS
The server experts are saying - we should have used HP or SUN or IBM
The database experts are concerned Oracle was used (Open Source Guys would want MySQL)
Software Developers - why use language X and not you
Software Testers - want more testing
Everyone is pitching their wares ... no one is sure what happened ....... ... and the job is over this week :)
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Roland Omoresemi < roland@tezzasolutions.com<mailto:roland@tezzasolutions.com>> wrote: Can we really blame ICT when the true culprit appears to be the lack of proper testing of the systems in play?
IEBC could have performance tested (both load and stress) their systems to see how they would react under varying loads.
The tools and human resources were right there in Kenya but it is obvious we failed to apply them to help create a different result than what we currently face.
What we are witnessing is a classic case of what happens when we fail to adequately test our applications. Our non-conformance cost skyrockets...IEBC now has to worry about the cost of doing damage control on the biggest stage ever when it could have spent a fraction of the same cost to perform load or stress tests which would have helped them identify issues/bottlenecks in their systems long before now.
This is also not much different from what some of our local companies do...we deploy critical systems without proper testing and we then pray and hope nothing happens.
It is saddening that we don't see much value in setting aside adequate time for testing our applications (most especially those that are customer-facing) or we push whatever little testing we do to the very last minute when its practically too late to make any difference...or until the "s..." hits the ceiling and we then start to wonder why any of our issues could be happening.
Could we really blame ICT here or should we be looking closely at our lack of proper software testing?
- Roland ------Original Message------ From: Edith Adera Sender: kictanet To: Roland Omoresemi Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed? Sent: Mar 6, 2013 12:55 AM
Listers,
It is a shame that for the first time in Kenya's history when IT is given a chance to bring credibility and efficiency in the electoral process, ICT has failed SPECTACULARLY!
what went wrong?
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I believe the issue of the IEBC transmission and tallying system is for now water under the bridge and we can always revisit it after the transition what we need to concentrate on know is how to stop the distribution of hate speech and related messages through social media that could lead us back down the labyrinth of 2007/8. How can we assist the government to clamp down on all the hateful information making rounds such as this one http://kenyastockholm.com/2013/03/07/alarm-election-rigging-in-progress-in-k... which is only one of thousands making the rounds. Regards It is fool hardy to spend attention and resources on a postmortem when their is a living patient in crisis. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Davis Onsakia <mautidavis@gmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, 8 March 2013, 7:55 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed? I personally heard this from the IEBC Chairman and was not amused. Such things don't just happen - definitely somebody somewhere, either after the testing or before, added this line of code in the system. For me, with such issues, it was better abandoned - to at least save the integrity of the process. Best Regards, Davis M Onsakia "One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time." On 7 March 2013 20:11, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote: Anyone saw this article and can verify content - i missed the press conference
http://www.techmtaa.com/2013/03/07/kenyadecides-iebc-chairman-admitted-on-li...
________________________________________ From: kictanet [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] on behalf of Gilda Odera [godera@skyweb.co.ke] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 8:02 AM To: Edith Adera
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed?
And when I say plan, it extends beyond IEBC. If the timing was too short to test properly as I see here below, I expected the ICT team to brief the Chairman of IEBC of the risk involved and for him to inform the public that much as they wanted an electronic voting system, the finances must be made available early enough and so they have no choice to go but to go manual. The buck then shifts to Treasury who must be pressurized to perform their functions effectively. This involves more people than just the IEBC though they will now take the beating for accepting to use a system that had not properly been tested.
Regards,
Gilda Odera
On Mar 6, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com<mailto:dmuthoni@gmail.com>> wrote:
Now, there is loads of information that is becoming available about the system. I am sharing more that has come my way:
1. The RFP used to source a vendor: http://buyersguide.ifes.org/procurement_pdf/1356124968.pdf 2. RFP was closing only 4th January, 2013, yes..only this January 3. An external party (US based) that seems to have been fully involved in the entire procurement process and i would imagine implementation as well is http://www.ifes.org/. See all details about their role in the RFP and others on their website. 4. Project was USAID funded. 5. A good blog with several discussions on this: http://iebctechkenya.tumblr.com/ 6. Stories on media that never caught quick attention: http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/article-108148/iebc-must-fix-results-transmis..., http://tinyurl.com/d9va4k4
Before we blame anybody or feel sorry for any party, Please lets do a thorough review of the ongoings. I am sure we shall then address the IT problem in this case.
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com<mailto:agostal@gmail.com>> wrote: Roland
The governance experts are saying - lack of governance
The networking experts are saying - lets get better VPNS
The server experts are saying - we should have used HP or SUN or IBM
The database experts are concerned Oracle was used (Open Source Guys would want MySQL)
Software Developers - why use language X and not you
Software Testers - want more testing
Everyone is pitching their wares ... no one is sure what happened ....... ... and the job is over this week :)
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Roland Omoresemi <roland@tezzasolutions.com<mailto:roland@tezzasolutions.com>> wrote: Can we really blame ICT when the true culprit appears to be the lack of proper testing of the systems in play?
IEBC could have performance tested (both load and stress) their systems to see how they would react under varying loads.
The tools and human resources were right there in Kenya but it is obvious we failed to apply them to help create a different result than what we currently face.
What we are witnessing is a classic case of what happens when we fail to adequately test our applications. Our non-conformance cost skyrockets...IEBC now has to worry about the cost of doing damage control on the biggest stage ever when it could have spent a fraction of the same cost to perform load or stress tests which would have helped them identify issues/bottlenecks in their systems long before now.
This is also not much different from what some of our local companies do...we deploy critical systems without proper testing and we then pray and hope nothing happens.
It is saddening that we don't see much value in setting aside adequate time for testing our applications (most especially those that are customer-facing) or we push whatever little testing we do to the very last minute when its practically too late to make any difference...or until the "s..." hits the ceiling and we then start to wonder why any of our issues could be happening.
Could we really blame ICT here or should we be looking closely at our lack of proper software testing?
- Roland ------Original Message------ From: Edith Adera Sender: kictanet To: Roland Omoresemi Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed? Sent: Mar 6, 2013 12:55 AM
Listers,
It is a shame that for the first time in Kenya's history when IT is given a chance to bring credibility and efficiency in the electoral process, ICT has failed SPECTACULARLY!
what went wrong?
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Bobby, You shouldn't have posted the link in the first place, as that just gives it more publicity. On 8 March 2013 09:47, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
I believe the issue of the IEBC transmission and tallying system is for now water under the bridge and we can always revisit it after the transition what we need to concentrate on know is how to stop the distribution of hate speech and related messages through social media that could lead us back down the labyrinth of 2007/8.
How can we assist the government to clamp down on all the hateful information making rounds such as this one XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX which is only one of thousands making the rounds.
Regards
It is fool hardy to spend attention and resources on a postmortem when their is a living patient in crisis.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ------------------------------ *From:* Davis Onsakia <mautidavis@gmail.com> *To:* robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Friday, 8 March 2013, 7:55 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed?
I personally heard this from the IEBC Chairman and was not amused. Such things don't just happen - definitely somebody somewhere, either after the testing or before, added this line of code in the system.
For me, with such issues, it was better abandoned - to at least save the integrity of the process.
Best Regards, Davis M Onsakia "One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time."
On 7 March 2013 20:11, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
Anyone saw this article and can verify content - i missed the press conference
http://www.techmtaa.com/2013/03/07/kenyadecides-iebc-chairman-admitted-on-li...
________________________________________ From: kictanet [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] on behalf of Gilda Odera [godera@skyweb.co.ke] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 8:02 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed?
And when I say plan, it extends beyond IEBC. If the timing was too short to test properly as I see here below, I expected the ICT team to brief the Chairman of IEBC of the risk involved and for him to inform the public that much as they wanted an electronic voting system, the finances must be made available early enough and so they have no choice to go but to go manual. The buck then shifts to Treasury who must be pressurized to perform their functions effectively. This involves more people than just the IEBC though they will now take the beating for accepting to use a system that had not properly been tested.
Regards,
Gilda Odera
On Mar 6, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com<mailto: dmuthoni@gmail.com>> wrote:
Now, there is loads of information that is becoming available about the system. I am sharing more that has come my way:
1. The RFP used to source a vendor: http://buyersguide.ifes.org/procurement_pdf/1356124968.pdf 2. RFP was closing only 4th January, 2013, yes..only this January 3. An external party (US based) that seems to have been fully involved in the entire procurement process and i would imagine implementation as well is http://www.ifes.org/. See all details about their role in the RFP and others on their website. 4. Project was USAID funded. 5. A good blog with several discussions on this: http://iebctechkenya.tumblr.com/ 6. Stories on media that never caught quick attention: http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/article-108148/iebc-must-fix-results-transmis..., http://tinyurl.com/d9va4k4
Before we blame anybody or feel sorry for any party, Please lets do a thorough review of the ongoings. I am sure we shall then address the IT problem in this case.
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com<mailto: agostal@gmail.com>> wrote: Roland
The governance experts are saying - lack of governance
The networking experts are saying - lets get better VPNS
The server experts are saying - we should have used HP or SUN or IBM
The database experts are concerned Oracle was used (Open Source Guys would want MySQL)
Software Developers - why use language X and not you
Software Testers - want more testing
Everyone is pitching their wares ... no one is sure what happened ....... ... and the job is over this week :)
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Roland Omoresemi < roland@tezzasolutions.com<mailto:roland@tezzasolutions.com>> wrote: Can we really blame ICT when the true culprit appears to be the lack of proper testing of the systems in play?
IEBC could have performance tested (both load and stress) their systems to see how they would react under varying loads.
The tools and human resources were right there in Kenya but it is obvious we failed to apply them to help create a different result than what we currently face.
What we are witnessing is a classic case of what happens when we fail to adequately test our applications. Our non-conformance cost skyrockets...IEBC now has to worry about the cost of doing damage control on the biggest stage ever when it could have spent a fraction of the same cost to perform load or stress tests which would have helped them identify issues/bottlenecks in their systems long before now.
This is also not much different from what some of our local companies do...we deploy critical systems without proper testing and we then pray and hope nothing happens.
It is saddening that we don't see much value in setting aside adequate time for testing our applications (most especially those that are customer-facing) or we push whatever little testing we do to the very last minute when its practically too late to make any difference...or until the "s..." hits the ceiling and we then start to wonder why any of our issues could be happening.
Could we really blame ICT here or should we be looking closely at our lack of proper software testing?
- Roland ------Original Message------ From: Edith Adera Sender: kictanet To: Roland Omoresemi Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed? Sent: Mar 6, 2013 12:55 AM
Listers,
It is a shame that for the first time in Kenya's history when IT is given a chance to bring credibility and efficiency in the electoral process, ICT has failed SPECTACULARLY!
what went wrong?
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Washington, I believe what you are proposing is the same thing you where castigating us about, sugar coating. Your proposal would be like asking the media to stop showing us images from the 2007/8 PEV and instead just tell us about what happened. It is my believe that the people on this list are intelligent enough to know what to propagate and what not to, they need to know so that we can then carry out a postmortem and ask later "Did we let the country down". Dr. Ndemo reminded us the other day that 17.5 million Kenyans have access to the Internet, this fact to send shivers down our spines. Regards First they came for the Kikuyu's,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Kikuyu. Then they came for the Luo's, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Luo. Then they came for the Ndorobo, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Ndorobo. Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me. Adopted from Martin-Niemöller's (1892–1984) "First they came . . ." about the inactivity of German intellectuals following the Nazi rise to power and the purging of their chosen targets, group after group
If this seems too far from us here is another warning from Former Tanzanian President Mwalimu Nyerere http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if108QmFKt4&list=PLA0ADF02AD12B3B62 Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, 8 March 2013, 10:26 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed? Hate Speech Bobby, You shouldn't have posted the link in the first place, as that just gives it more publicity. On 8 March 2013 09:47, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: I believe the issue of the IEBC transmission and tallying system is for now water under the bridge and we can always revisit it after the transition what we need to concentrate on know is how to stop the distribution of hate speech and related messages through social media that could lead us back down the labyrinth of 2007/8.
How can we assist the government to clamp down on all the hateful information making rounds such as this one XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX which is only one of thousands making the rounds.
Regards
It is fool hardy to spend attention and resources on a postmortem when their is a living patient in crisis.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Davis Onsakia <mautidavis@gmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, 8 March 2013, 7:55 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed?
I personally heard this from the IEBC Chairman and was not amused. Such things don't just happen - definitely somebody somewhere, either after the testingor before, added this line of code in the system.
For me, with such issues, it was better abandoned - to at least save the integrity of the process.
Best Regards, Davis M Onsakia "One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time."
On 7 March 2013 20:11, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
Anyone saw this article and can verify content - i missed the press conference
http://www.techmtaa.com/2013/03/07/kenyadecides-iebc-chairman-admitted-on-li...
________________________________________ From: kictanet [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] on behalf of Gilda Odera [godera@skyweb.co.ke] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 8:02 AM To: Edith Adera
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed?
And when I say plan, it extends beyond IEBC. If the timing was too short to test properly as I see here below, I expected the ICT team to brief the Chairman of IEBC of the risk involved and for him to inform the public that much as they wanted an electronic voting system, the finances must be made available early enough and so they have no choice to go but to go manual. The buck then shifts to Treasury who must be pressurized to perform their functions effectively. This involves more people than just the IEBC though they will now take the beating for accepting to use a system that had not properly been tested.
Regards,
Gilda Odera
On Mar 6, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com<mailto:dmuthoni@gmail.com>> wrote:
Now, there is loads of information that is becoming available about the system. I am sharing more that has come my way:
1. The RFP used to source a vendor: http://buyersguide.ifes.org/procurement_pdf/1356124968.pdf 2. RFP was closing only 4th January, 2013, yes..only this January 3. An external party (US based) that seems to have been fully involved in the entire procurement process and i would imagine implementation as well is http://www.ifes.org/. See all details about their role in the RFP and others on their website. 4. Project was USAID funded. 5. A good blog with several discussions on this: http://iebctechkenya.tumblr.com/ 6. Stories on media that never caught quick attention: http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/article-108148/iebc-must-fix-results-transmis..., http://tinyurl.com/d9va4k4
Before we blame anybody or feel sorry for any party, Please lets do a thorough review of the ongoings. I am sure we shall then address the IT problem in this case.
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com<mailto:agostal@gmail.com>> wrote: Roland
The governance experts are saying - lack of governance
The networking experts are saying - lets get better VPNS
The server experts are saying - we should have used HP or SUN or IBM
The database experts are concerned Oracle was used (Open Source Guys would want MySQL)
Software Developers - why use language X and not you
Software Testers - want more testing
Everyone is pitching their wares ... no one is sure what happened ....... ... and the job is over this week :)
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Roland Omoresemi <roland@tezzasolutions.com<mailto:roland@tezzasolutions.com>> wrote: Can we really blame ICT when the true culprit appears to be the lack of proper testing of the systems in play?
IEBC could have performance tested (both load and stress) their systems to see how they would react under varying loads.
The tools and human resources were right there in Kenya but it is obvious we failed to apply them to help create a different result than what we currently face.
What we are witnessing is a classic case of what happens when we fail to adequately test our applications. Our non-conformance cost skyrockets...IEBC now has to worry about the cost of doing damage control on the biggest stage ever when it could have spent a fraction of the same cost to perform load or stress tests which would have helped them identify issues/bottlenecks in their systems long before now.
This is also not much different from what some of our local companies do...we deploy critical systems without proper testing and we then pray and hope nothing happens.
It is saddening that we don't see much value in setting aside adequate time for testing our applications (most especially those that are customer-facing) or we push whatever little testing we do to the very last minute when its practically too late to make any difference...or until the "s..." hits the ceiling and we then start to wonder why any of our issues could be happening.
Could we really blame ICT here or should we be looking closely at our lack of proper software testing?
- Roland ------Original Message------ From: Edith Adera Sender: kictanet To: Roland Omoresemi Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed? Sent: Mar 6, 2013 12:55 AM
Listers,
It is a shame that for the first time in Kenya's history when IT is given a chance to bring credibility and efficiency in the electoral process, ICT has failed SPECTACULARLY!
what went wrong?
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I agree with Robert on this. A better argument than I can make was already made by James Madison 200 years ago: Original: http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa10.htm Interpretation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_No._10#Madison.27s_arguments Factionalism needs to be given freedom in a liberal society and only with that freedom will liberal society be able to keep it at bay. Factionalism and hate that stays within the faction and isn't exposed will fester and cause big problems in the future. -Adam https://twitter.com/varud On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 12:12 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Washington,
I believe what you are proposing is the same thing you where castigating us about, sugar coating.
Your proposal would be like asking the media to stop showing us images from the 2007/8 PEV and instead just tell us about what happened.
It is my believe that the people on this list are intelligent enough to know what to propagate and what not to, they need to know so that we can then carry out a postmortem and ask later "Did we let the country down".
Dr. Ndemo reminded us the other day that 17.5 million Kenyans have access to the Internet, this fact to send shivers down our spines.
Regards
First they came for the Kikuyu's, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Kikuyu. Then they came for the Luo's, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Luo. Then they came for the Ndorobo, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Ndorobo. Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me.
Adopted from Martin-Niemöller's (1892–1984) "First they came . . ." about the inactivity of German intellectuals<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual>following the Nazi <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism> rise to power and the purging of their chosen targets, group after group
If this seems too far from us here is another warning from Former Tanzanian President Mwalimu Nyerere http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if108QmFKt4&list=PLA0ADF02AD12B3B62
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ------------------------------ *From:* Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>
*To:* robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Friday, 8 March 2013, 10:26 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed? Hate Speech
Bobby,
You shouldn't have posted the link in the first place, as that just gives it more publicity.
On 8 March 2013 09:47, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
I believe the issue of the IEBC transmission and tallying system is for now water under the bridge and we can always revisit it after the transition what we need to concentrate on know is how to stop the distribution of hate speech and related messages through social media that could lead us back down the labyrinth of 2007/8.
How can we assist the government to clamp down on all the hateful information making rounds such as this one XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX which is only one of thousands making the rounds.
Regards
It is fool hardy to spend attention and resources on a postmortem when their is a living patient in crisis.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ------------------------------ *From:* Davis Onsakia <mautidavis@gmail.com> *To:* robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Friday, 8 March 2013, 7:55 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed?
I personally heard this from the IEBC Chairman and was not amused. Such things don't just happen - definitely somebody somewhere, either after the testingor before, added this line of code in the system.
For me, with such issues, it was better abandoned - to at least save the integrity of the process.
Best Regards, Davis M Onsakia "One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time."
On 7 March 2013 20:11, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
Anyone saw this article and can verify content - i missed the press conference
http://www.techmtaa.com/2013/03/07/kenyadecides-iebc-chairman-admitted-on-li...
________________________________________ From: kictanet [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] on behalf of Gilda Odera [godera@skyweb.co.ke] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 8:02 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed?
And when I say plan, it extends beyond IEBC. If the timing was too short to test properly as I see here below, I expected the ICT team to brief the Chairman of IEBC of the risk involved and for him to inform the public that much as they wanted an electronic voting system, the finances must be made available early enough and so they have no choice to go but to go manual. The buck then shifts to Treasury who must be pressurized to perform their functions effectively. This involves more people than just the IEBC though they will now take the beating for accepting to use a system that had not properly been tested.
Regards,
Gilda Odera
On Mar 6, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com<mailto: dmuthoni@gmail.com>> wrote:
Now, there is loads of information that is becoming available about the system. I am sharing more that has come my way:
1. The RFP used to source a vendor: http://buyersguide.ifes.org/procurement_pdf/1356124968.pdf 2. RFP was closing only 4th January, 2013, yes..only this January 3. An external party (US based) that seems to have been fully involved in the entire procurement process and i would imagine implementation as well is http://www.ifes.org/. See all details about their role in the RFP and others on their website. 4. Project was USAID funded. 5. A good blog with several discussions on this: http://iebctechkenya.tumblr.com/ 6. Stories on media that never caught quick attention: http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/article-108148/iebc-must-fix-results-transmis..., http://tinyurl.com/d9va4k4
Before we blame anybody or feel sorry for any party, Please lets do a thorough review of the ongoings. I am sure we shall then address the IT problem in this case.
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com<mailto: agostal@gmail.com>> wrote: Roland
The governance experts are saying - lack of governance
The networking experts are saying - lets get better VPNS
The server experts are saying - we should have used HP or SUN or IBM
The database experts are concerned Oracle was used (Open Source Guys would want MySQL)
Software Developers - why use language X and not you
Software Testers - want more testing
Everyone is pitching their wares ... no one is sure what happened ....... ... and the job is over this week :)
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Roland Omoresemi < roland@tezzasolutions.com<mailto:roland@tezzasolutions.com>> wrote: Can we really blame ICT when the true culprit appears to be the lack of proper testing of the systems in play?
IEBC could have performance tested (both load and stress) their systems to see how they would react under varying loads.
The tools and human resources were right there in Kenya but it is obvious we failed to apply them to help create a different result than what we currently face.
What we are witnessing is a classic case of what happens when we fail to adequately test our applications. Our non-conformance cost skyrockets...IEBC now has to worry about the cost of doing damage control on the biggest stage ever when it could have spent a fraction of the same cost to perform load or stress tests which would have helped them identify issues/bottlenecks in their systems long before now.
This is also not much different from what some of our local companies do...we deploy critical systems without proper testing and we then pray and hope nothing happens.
It is saddening that we don't see much value in setting aside adequate time for testing our applications (most especially those that are customer-facing) or we push whatever little testing we do to the very last minute when its practically too late to make any difference...or until the "s..." hits the ceiling and we then start to wonder why any of our issues could be happening.
Could we really blame ICT here or should we be looking closely at our lack of proper software testing?
- Roland ------Original Message------ From: Edith Adera Sender: kictanet To: Roland Omoresemi Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed? Sent: Mar 6, 2013 12:55 AM
Listers,
It is a shame that for the first time in Kenya's history when IT is given a chance to bring credibility and efficiency in the electoral process, ICT has failed SPECTACULARLY!
what went wrong?
Edith _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet
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You're an incredible people! - - - - A total of 14,337,399 Kenyans registered as voters for the 2013 general elections (ref: http://www.mwakilishi.com/content/articles/2012/12/20/iebc-releases-final-vo...) According to IEBC's final results just released at Bomas of Kenya 12,338,667 turned out and cast their ballots Which means a voter turnout > 86.05 % Which means even better the US during Obama's first term election (BUT NOT AS GOOD as the Maltese...) "Different countries have very different voter turnouts. For example, in the United States 2008 presidential election turnout was 63% and 68% among African Americans (generally credited to Barack Obama's candidacy). In Belgium, which has compulsory voting, and Malta, which does not, participation reaches 95%. These differences are caused by a mix of cultural and institutional factors." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout - - -
Regards, Gilda Odera On Mar 6, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com> wrote:
Roland
The governance experts are saying - lack of governance
The networking experts are saying - lets get better VPNS
The server experts are saying - we should have used HP or SUN or IBM
The database experts are concerned Oracle was used (Open Source Guys would want MySQL)
Software Developers - why use language X and not you
Software Testers - want more testing
Everyone is pitching their wares ... no one is sure what happened ....... ... and the job is over this week :)
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Roland Omoresemi <roland@tezzasolutions.com> wrote: Can we really blame ICT when the true culprit appears to be the lack of proper testing of the systems in play?
IEBC could have performance tested (both load and stress) their systems to see how they would react under varying loads.
The tools and human resources were right there in Kenya but it is obvious we failed to apply them to help create a different result than what we currently face.
What we are witnessing is a classic case of what happens when we fail to adequately test our applications. Our non-conformance cost skyrockets...IEBC now has to worry about the cost of doing damage control on the biggest stage ever when it could have spent a fraction of the same cost to perform load or stress tests which would have helped them identify issues/bottlenecks in their systems long before now.
This is also not much different from what some of our local companies do...we deploy critical systems without proper testing and we then pray and hope nothing happens.
It is saddening that we don't see much value in setting aside adequate time for testing our applications (most especially those that are customer-facing) or we push whatever little testing we do to the very last minute when its practically too late to make any difference...or until the "s..." hits the ceiling and we then start to wonder why any of our issues could be happening.
Could we really blame ICT here or should we be looking closely at our lack of proper software testing?
- Roland ------Original Message------ From: Edith Adera Sender: kictanet To: Roland Omoresemi Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed? Sent: Mar 6, 2013 12:55 AM
Listers,
It is a shame that for the first time in Kenya's history when IT is given a chance to bring credibility and efficiency in the electoral process, ICT has failed SPECTACULARLY!
what went wrong?
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Listers, My view is that we cannot keep refusing to perfect what we do. No doubt that systems fail but it is a terribly lame excuse considering that the article in The Star confirms that the prior tests failed. Why did they proceed to use a problematic system? We must learn to accept where we fail if we are to improve I future. How else do other democracies vote electronically if we are excusing ourselves that systems fail? It is because they plan, plan, plan and test, test, test way beforehand to ensure all is well and all back-ups will work. Remember we are still going to have elections in 5 years time so let us face the truth and discuss here what should or should never happen again. Regards, Gilda Odera On Mar 6, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com> wrote:
Roland
The governance experts are saying - lack of governance
The networking experts are saying - lets get better VPNS
The server experts are saying - we should have used HP or SUN or IBM
The database experts are concerned Oracle was used (Open Source Guys would want MySQL)
Software Developers - why use language X and not you
Software Testers - want more testing
Everyone is pitching their wares ... no one is sure what happened ....... ... and the job is over this week :)
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Roland Omoresemi <roland@tezzasolutions.com> wrote: Can we really blame ICT when the true culprit appears to be the lack of proper testing of the systems in play?
IEBC could have performance tested (both load and stress) their systems to see how they would react under varying loads.
The tools and human resources were right there in Kenya but it is obvious we failed to apply them to help create a different result than what we currently face.
What we are witnessing is a classic case of what happens when we fail to adequately test our applications. Our non-conformance cost skyrockets...IEBC now has to worry about the cost of doing damage control on the biggest stage ever when it could have spent a fraction of the same cost to perform load or stress tests which would have helped them identify issues/bottlenecks in their systems long before now.
This is also not much different from what some of our local companies do...we deploy critical systems without proper testing and we then pray and hope nothing happens.
It is saddening that we don't see much value in setting aside adequate time for testing our applications (most especially those that are customer-facing) or we push whatever little testing we do to the very last minute when its practically too late to make any difference...or until the "s..." hits the ceiling and we then start to wonder why any of our issues could be happening.
Could we really blame ICT here or should we be looking closely at our lack of proper software testing?
- Roland ------Original Message------ From: Edith Adera Sender: kictanet To: Roland Omoresemi Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed? Sent: Mar 6, 2013 12:55 AM
Listers,
It is a shame that for the first time in Kenya's history when IT is given a chance to bring credibility and efficiency in the electoral process, ICT has failed SPECTACULARLY!
what went wrong?
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This is a case of unethical behaviour! As professionals we know the key requirements of this sort of a system interms of design and deployment, hence what and how to test(reliability, security, accuracy, scalability, performance and concurrency). In the IEBC case, the minimum expected would have been sufficient planning for integration and testing with reliable test cases and test data. From the start, this did not happen! What shuld we expect out of WYSIWYG) what you see is what you get)! Lets not blame technology when defeated in harnessing its power. The BVR did not work in some polling stations, some laptops lost power and its then that staff started looking for sockets and cables.. then no sockets... If this is replicated at the tallying centres national or county levels, what has technology to do with this? This country has stamped its mark on the world map as the centre of many technovations In my opinion, IEBC failed to adequately prepare. Various tests including, stress test, performance tests, path tests, load/traffic tests etc were not performed to a satisfactory level. The ICT staff performed simulations (black box) testng of a very rudimentary nature. The best we could with water now under the bridge is to do a post term begining with requirements specification all the way to implementation, system conversion strategy and alignment. The process needs to be driven by user centered philosophy and participatory in approach to address key stakes. This is my reflection. Nancy Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Gilda Odera <godera@skyweb.co.ke> Sender: "kictanet" <kictanet-bounces+n_macharia=yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 15:56:07 To: <n_macharia@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed? _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/n_macharia%40yahoo.co.... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
participants (12)
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Adam Nelson -
Agosta Liko -
Brian Munyao Longwe -
Davis Onsakia -
Dorcas Muthoni -
Edith Adera -
Gilda Odera -
ICT Researcher -
n_macharia＠yahoo.co.uk -
Odhiambo Washington -
robert yawe -
Roland Omoresemi