Washington,

I believe what you are proposing is the same thing you where castigating us about, sugar coating. 

Your proposal would be like asking the media to stop showing us images from the 2007/8 PEV and instead just tell us about what happened.

It is my believe that the people on this list are intelligent enough to know what to propagate and what not to, they need to know so that we can then carry out a postmortem and ask later "Did we let the country down".

Dr. Ndemo reminded us the other day that 17.5 million Kenyans have access to the Internet, this fact to send shivers down our spines.

Regards

First they came for the Kikuyu's,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Kikuyu.
Then they came for the Luo's,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Luo.
Then they came for the Ndorobo,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Ndorobo.
Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.
 Adopted from Martin-Niemöller's (1892–1984) "First they came . . ."  about the inactivity of German intellectuals following the Nazi rise to power and the purging of their chosen targets, group after group

If this seems too far from us here is another warning from Former Tanzanian President Mwalimu Nyerere http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if108QmFKt4&list=PLA0ADF02AD12B3B62


Robert Yawe
KAY System Technologies Ltd
Phoenix House, 6th Floor
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
Kenya

Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>
To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Sent: Friday, 8 March 2013, 10:26
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed? Hate Speech

Bobby,

You shouldn't have posted the link in the first place, as that just gives it more publicity.

On 8 March 2013 09:47, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
I believe the issue of the IEBC transmission and tallying system is for now water under the bridge and we can always revisit it after the transition what we need to concentrate on know is how to stop the distribution of hate speech and related messages through social media that could lead us back down the labyrinth of 2007/8.

How can we assist the government to clamp down on all the hateful information making rounds such as this one XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX which is only one of thousands making the rounds.

Regards

It is fool hardy to spend attention and resources on a postmortem when their is a living patient in crisis.
 
Robert Yawe
KAY System Technologies Ltd
Phoenix House, 6th Floor
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
Kenya

Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

From: Davis Onsakia <mautidavis@gmail.com>
To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Sent: Friday, 8 March 2013, 7:55
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed?

I personally heard this from the IEBC Chairman and was not amused. Such things don't just happen - definitely somebody somewhere, either after the testingor before, added this line of  code in the system.

For me, with such issues, it was better abandoned - to at least save the integrity of the process.

Best Regards,
Davis M Onsakia
"One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time."


On 7 March 2013 20:11, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
Anyone saw this article and can verify content - i missed the press conference

http://www.techmtaa.com/2013/03/07/kenyadecides-iebc-chairman-admitted-on-live-tv-that-their-system-was-hacked/



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From: kictanet [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] on behalf of Gilda Odera [godera@skyweb.co.ke]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 8:02 AM
To: Edith Adera
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed?

And when I say plan, it extends beyond IEBC. If the timing was too short to test properly as I see here below, I expected the ICT team to brief the Chairman of IEBC of the risk involved and for him to inform the public that much as they wanted an electronic voting system, the finances must be made available early enough and so they have no choice to go but to go manual. The buck then shifts to Treasury who must be pressurized to perform their functions effectively. This involves more people than just the IEBC  though they will now take the beating for accepting to use a system that had not properly been tested.

Regards,

Gilda Odera

On Mar 6, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com<mailto:dmuthoni@gmail.com>> wrote:

Now, there is loads of information that is becoming available about the system. I am sharing more that has come my way:


  1.  The RFP used to source a vendor: http://buyersguide.ifes.org/procurement_pdf/1356124968.pdf
  2.  RFP was closing only 4th January, 2013, yes..only this January
  3.  An external party (US based) that seems to have been fully involved in the entire procurement process and i would imagine implementation as well is http://www.ifes.org/. See all details about their role in the RFP and others on their website.
  4.  Project was USAID funded.
  5.  A good blog with several discussions on this: http://iebctechkenya.tumblr.com/
  6.  Stories on media that never caught quick attention: http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/article-108148/iebc-must-fix-results-transmission-system-fast, http://tinyurl.com/d9va4k4

Before we blame anybody or feel sorry for any party, Please lets do a thorough review of the ongoings. I am sure we shall then address the IT problem in this case.

On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com<mailto:agostal@gmail.com>> wrote:
Roland

The governance experts are saying - lack of governance

The networking experts are saying - lets get better VPNS

The server experts are saying - we should have used HP or SUN or IBM

The database experts are concerned Oracle was used (Open Source Guys would want MySQL)

Software Developers - why use language X and not you

Software Testers - want more testing

Everyone is pitching their wares ... no one is sure what happened ....... ... and the job is over this week :)

On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Roland Omoresemi <roland@tezzasolutions.com<mailto:roland@tezzasolutions.com>> wrote:
Can we really blame ICT when the true culprit appears to be the lack of proper testing of the systems in play?

IEBC could have performance tested (both load and stress) their systems to see how they would react under varying loads.

The tools and human resources were right there in Kenya but it is obvious we failed to apply them to help create a different result than what we currently face.

What we are witnessing is a classic case of what happens when we fail to adequately test our applications. Our non-conformance cost skyrockets...IEBC now has to worry about the cost of doing damage control on the biggest stage ever when it could have spent a fraction of the same cost to perform load or stress tests which would have helped them identify issues/bottlenecks in their systems long before now.

This is also not much different from what some of our local companies do...we deploy critical systems without proper testing and we then pray and hope nothing happens.

It is saddening that we don't see much value in setting aside adequate time for testing our applications (most especially those that are customer-facing) or we push whatever little testing we do to the very last minute when its practically too late to make any difference...or until the "s..." hits the ceiling and we then start to wonder why any of our issues could be happening.

Could we really blame ICT here or should we be looking closely at our lack of proper software testing?

- Roland
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Listers,

It is a shame that for the first time in Kenya's history when IT is given a chance to bring credibility and efficiency in the electoral process, ICT has failed SPECTACULARLY!

what went wrong?

Edith
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