Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier in TransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
Hi, I am unable to send an SMS from my safaricom line to CDMA numbers. Who is responsible for making sure that we are not blocked from sending messages across networks. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 KEnya Tel: +254722511225 ----- Original Message ---- From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: bitange@jambo.co.ke; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, 23 November, 2007 11:20:03 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier in TransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007 Dear Yawe, Welcome to KICTAnet. Just wanted to know how you got to know that Ministry of Information, CCK and ICT Board did not act on the Safaricom/TKL sms issue? Do you know the mandate of these "bodies"? My friend, in the past one year did you not come across the mention of the ICT Bill? I really want to be of help to you but first I want to understand where you are coming from. Regards Bitange Ndemo.
Hi All,
I am new to this mailing list and would like to start by saying something about myself.
I am an Information Technology specialist with over 15 years experience which means I know how to use DOS, UNIX and other OS's that exist only on 5.25" floppy disks. My area of specialisation is in design & implementation of local and wide area networks.
On the issue of mGovernment I do agree that this is the next frontier but it is shocking, as usual, that we are not embracing the technology or even working to develop the necessary legislation to make it flourish. AS many web site designers about WAP and they are lost, we are designing heavy sites that have no intelligence to identify the type of device accessing the site and thus adjust the page to display better on the particular device.
It is interesting that CCK and the Ministry of Information plus the ICT Board can sit back when the fight between Telkom and Safaricom on the delivery of SMS messages across the network continues to deny the tax payer (excise duty on airtime). Or the fact that none of the mentioned felt it necessary to educate Mr. Kivuitu on the need to make live electoral database available over SMS.
Now if we cannot take advantage of this opportunity to create local content and utilise mGovernment how can we entrust this "bodies" (which interestingly refers to expired humans) with making the marine cable a viable project. Maybe we should cancel the project and use the money to put up a technology park in Mandera and Garsen.
We do not need to recreate the wheel, just visit yahoomobile, googleearthmobile, or if you have a GPRS enabled phone try wap.mystocks.co.ke. Or next time you are going up towards NIC on Bunyala Road look at the Nokia advert.
The mobile phone is the future let embrace it or perish.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 KEnya Tel: +254722511225
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Dear Kwach,
I agree with you and it is equally interesting to note that some mobile applications are already being implemented…I dare say that this part of the world will see more mGovernment in the G2C (Government to Citizens) arena than the traditional eGovernment where the PC is
main service delivery channel. Most welcome to attend the session.
Kindest regards
Harry
From: Kwach [mailto:kwach@archway-productions.com]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 5:51 PM
To: 'Harry Hare'
Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
Subject: RE: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier in TransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
Hi Harry,
These are interesting statistics and scenario. For developing countries, there is urgent need to move from quantity to quality. In my view, content is the quality because more 65% of mobiles are only meeting social needs and costs involved have got no direct
{margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New the linkage to
revenue for the owners, which should be a great concern.
With Mobile Government, time and resources used in the rural to the say Government offices miles away would be deployed in other economic activities.
I am keen to attend.
Kwach Akich
From: kictanet-bounces+kwach=archway-productions.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke
On Behalf Of Harry Hare
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:49 AM
To: kwach@archway-productions.com
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier in TransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
Dear Colleagues,
Mobile services are quickly emerging as the new frontier in transforming government and making it even more accessible and citizen-centric by extending the benefits of remote delivery of government services and information to those who are unable or unwilling to access public services through the Internet or simply
to use mobile devices. In theory, many government services can be now made available on a 24x7x365 basis at any place in the country covered by mobile networks, which today means almost everywhere! Michael, correct me if Im wrong.
It is from this background that the World Bank in partnership with eGovWorld 2007 (www.egovworld.com) and African eDevelopment Resource Centre presents a dialogue on Mobile Government (mGovernment) on 29th November 2007, 4.30pm -7.00pm at the World Bank offices, Nairobi. The dialogue is live Video Conference and an integral part of the eGovWorld 2007 conference taking place in India 29-30 November 2007.
According to the ITU, the total number of mobile users worldwide as of late 2006 was about 2.7 billion and the number of internet users was just above 1.1 billion. This means that there is 33.6% of world population (and 22.2% of developing countries population) who already have mobile phones but are not yet using the Internet.
Does this provide a strong case for leveraging the mobile channel to dramatically improve access to public services, including electronic government services to those who can afford to use a personal or shared mobile phone? Does this create an opportunity to connect in the near future the next two billion people to some of the benefits of e-government, e-health, e-education, e-banking and e-commerce? How exactly can Mobile Government change the lives of common people in developing countries? What are best examples of such impact? What are the key constraints to making this vision a reality? How should governments change the way they do business to take advantage of mobile technologies? What is the role of the private sector? Are there successful business models (e.g. PPP) for private sector companies to deliver value-added m-government services?
These are some of the questions that will be addressed.
Participation to the event is free; however, one needs to register to get access to the venue. If you are interested in participating send an email directly to susan@africanedevelopment.org for a registration form. Space is limited at the venue, only 20
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+kwach=archway-productions.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] prefer places are
available and will be given out on a first-come-first-served basis. Deadline for registration is Wednesday 22nd November.
Program:
+++++
Welcome & Introduction
Samia Melhem, Senior Operations Officer, Global ICT, World Bank; and Chair, e-Development Thematic Group
Vikas Kanungo, Chairman, The Society for Promotion of e-Governance, India & Convener, eGovWorld 2007
Opening Remarks/Keynote address
R. Chandrashekhar, Additional Secretary (e-Governance), DIT, Government of India
Speakers
Ibrahim Kushchu, Associate Professor and Director, Mobile Government Consortium International & Author, "m-Government: An Emerging Direction in e-Government", UK
Hannes Astok, Member of Parliament & former Deputy Mayor, City of Tartu , Estonia
Kindest Regards
Harry Hare
Executive Director
African eDevelopment Resource Centre
3rd Floor, Nelleon Place , Raphta Road , Westlands
PO Box 49475 00100, Nairobi
Tel +254 20 4453445
Cel +254 725 650044
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There is no blocking as such. Simply stated the agreements to open up the SMS interconnectivity have not been completed. We hope that this will be done soon. Regards, Michael CEO Safaricom Limited ________________________________ From: kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of robert yawe Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:50 AM To: Michael Joseph Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier inTransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007 Hi, I am unable to send an SMS from my safaricom line to CDMA numbers. Who is responsible for making sure that we are not blocked from sending messages across networks. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 KEnya Tel: +254722511225 ----- Original Message ---- From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: bitange@jambo.co.ke; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, 23 November, 2007 11:20:03 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier in TransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007 Dear Yawe, Welcome to KICTAnet. Just wanted to know how you got to know that Ministry of Information, CCK and ICT Board did not act on the Safaricom/TKL sms issue? Do you know the mandate of these "bodies"? My friend, in the past one year did you not come across the mention of the ICT Bill? I really want to be of help to you but first I want to understand where you are coming from. Regards Bitange Ndemo.
Hi All,
I am new to this mailing list and would like to start by saying something about myself.
I am an Information Technology specialist with over 15 years experience which means I know how to use DOS, UNIX and other OS's that exist only on 5.25" floppy disks. My area of specialisation is in design & implementation of local and wide area networks.
On the issue of mGovernment I do agree that this is the next frontier but it is shocking, as usual, that we are not embracing the technology or even working to develop the necessary legislation to make it flourish. AS many web site designers about WAP and they are lost, we are designing heavy sites that have no intelligence to identify the type of device accessing the site and thus adjust the page to display better on the particular device.
It is interesting that CCK and the Ministry of Information plus the ICT Board can sit back when the fight between Telkom and Safaricom on the delivery of SMS messages across the network continues to deny the tax payer (excise duty on airtime). Or the fact that none of the mentioned felt it necessary to educate Mr. Kivuitu on the need to make live electoral database available over SMS.
Now if we cannot take advantage of this opportunity to create local content and utilise mGovernment how can we entrust this "bodies" (which interestingly refers to expired humans) with making the marine cable a viable project. Maybe we should cancel the project and use the money to put up a technology park in Mandera and Garsen.
We do not need to recreate the wheel, just visit yahoomobile, googleearthmobile, or if you have a GPRS enabled phone try wap.mystocks.co.ke. Or next time you are going up towards NIC on Bunyala Road look at the Nokia advert.
The mobile phone is the future let embrace it or perish.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 KEnya Tel: +254722511225
----- Original Message ---- From: Harry Hare <harry@africanedevelopment.org> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Monday, 19 November, 2007 6:16:53 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier in TransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
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Dear Kwach,
I agree with you and it is equally interesting to note that some mobile applications are already being implemented…I dare say that this part of the world will see more mGovernment in the G2C (Government to Citizens) arena than the traditional eGovernment where the PC is the main service delivery channel. Most welcome to attend the session.
Kindest regards
Harry
From: Kwach [mailto:kwach@archway-productions.com]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 5:51 PM
To: 'Harry Hare'
Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
Subject: RE: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier in TransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
Hi Harry,
These are interesting statistics and scenario. For developing countries, there is urgent need to move from quantity to quality. In my view, content is the quality because more 65% of mobiles are only meeting social needs and costs involved have got no direct linkage to revenue for the owners, which should be a great concern.
With Mobile Government, time and resources used in the rural to the say Government offices miles away would be deployed in other economic activities.
I am keen to attend.
Kwach Akich
From: kictanet-bounces+kwach=archway-productions.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kwach=archway-productions.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Harry Hare
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:49 AM
To: kwach@archway-productions.com
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier in TransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
Dear Colleagues,
Mobile services are quickly emerging as the new frontier in transforming government and making it even more accessible and citizen-centric by extending the benefits of remote delivery of government services and information to those who are unable or unwilling to access public services through the Internet or simply prefer to use mobile devices. In theory, many government services can be now made available on a 24x7x365 basis at any place in the country covered by mobile networks, which today means almost everywhere! Michael, correct me if Im wrong.
It is from this background that the World Bank in partnership with eGovWorld 2007 (www.egovworld.com) and African eDevelopment Resource Centre presents a dialogue on Mobile Government (mGovernment) on 29th November 2007, 4.30pm -7.00pm at the World Bank offices, Nairobi. The dialogue is live Video Conference and an integral part of the eGovWorld 2007 conference taking place in India 29-30 November 2007.
According to the ITU, the total number of mobile users worldwide as of late 2006 was about 2.7 billion and the number of internet users was just above 1.1 billion. This means that there is 33.6% of world population (and 22.2% of developing countries population) who already have mobile phones but are not yet using the Internet.
Does this provide a strong case for leveraging the mobile channel to dramatically improve access to public services, including electronic government services to those who can afford to use a personal or shared mobile phone? Does this create an opportunity to connect in the near future the next two billion people to some of the benefits of e-government, e-health, e-education, e-banking and e-commerce? How exactly can Mobile Government change the lives of common people in developing countries? What are best examples of such impact? What are the key constraints to making this vision a reality? How should governments change the way they do business to take advantage of mobile technologies? What is the role of the private sector? Are there successful business models (e.g. PPP) for private sector companies to deliver value-added m-government services?
These are some of the questions that will be addressed.
Participation to the event is free; however, one needs to register to get access to the venue. If you are interested in participating send an email directly to susan@africanedevelopment.org for a registration form. Space is limited at the venue, only 20 places are available and will be given out on a first-come-first-served basis. Deadline for registration is Wednesday 22nd November.
Program:
+++++
Welcome & Introduction
Samia Melhem, Senior Operations Officer, Global ICT, World Bank; and Chair, e-Development Thematic Group
Vikas Kanungo, Chairman, The Society for Promotion of e-Governance, India & Convener, eGovWorld 2007
Opening Remarks/Keynote address
R. Chandrashekhar, Additional Secretary (e-Governance), DIT, Government of India
Speakers
Ibrahim Kushchu, Associate Professor and Director, Mobile Government Consortium International & Author, "m-Government: An Emerging Direction in e-Government", UK
Hannes Astok, Member of Parliament & former Deputy Mayor, City of Tartu , Estonia
Kindest Regards
Harry Hare
Executive Director
African eDevelopment Resource Centre
3rd Floor, Nelleon Place , Raphta Road , Westlands
PO Box 49475 00100, Nairobi
Tel +254 20 4453445
Cel +254 725 650044
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Hope is not a bad thing to have but just its just a wish. Until you finally "finalise" the agreement completely then let high costs bite deeper and deeper into our pockets. If we had a CCK that protected consumers this would have happened 2 months ago. Alex On Nov 26, 2007 8:06 AM, Michael Joseph <MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke> wrote:
There is no blocking as such. Simply stated the agreements to open up the SMS interconnectivity have not been completed. We hope that this will be done soon.
Regards,
Michael
CEO
Safaricom Limited
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From: kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of robert yawe Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:50 AM To: Michael Joseph
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier inTransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
Hi,
I am unable to send an SMS from my safaricom line to CDMA numbers. Who is responsible for making sure that we are not blocked from sending messages across networks.
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 KEnya
Tel: +254722511225
----- Original Message ---- From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: bitange@jambo.co.ke; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, 23 November, 2007 11:20:03 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier in TransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
Dear Yawe, Welcome to KICTAnet. Just wanted to know how you got to know that Ministry of Information, CCK and ICT Board did not act on the Safaricom/TKL sms issue? Do you know the mandate of these "bodies"? My friend, in the past one year did you not come across the mention of the ICT Bill? I really want to be of help to you but first I want to understand where you are coming from.
Regards
Bitange Ndemo.
Hi All,
I am new to this mailing list and would like to start by saying something about myself.
I am an Information Technology specialist with over 15 years experience which means I know how to use DOS, UNIX and other OS's that exist only on 5.25" floppy disks. My area of specialisation is in design & implementation of local and wide area networks.
On the issue of mGovernment I do agree that this is the next frontier but it is shocking, as usual, that we are not embracing the technology or even working to develop the necessary legislation to make it flourish. AS many web site designers about WAP and they are lost, we are designing heavy sites that have no intelligence to identify the type of device accessing the site and thus adjust the page to display better on the particular device.
It is interesting that CCK and the Ministry of Information plus the ICT Board can sit back when the fight between Telkom and Safaricom on the delivery of SMS messages across the network continues to deny the tax payer (excise duty on airtime). Or the fact that none of the mentioned felt it necessary to educate Mr. Kivuitu on the need to make live electoral database available over SMS.
Now if we cannot take advantage of this opportunity to create local content and utilise mGovernment how can we entrust this "bodies" (which interestingly refers to expired humans) with making the marine cable a viable project. Maybe we should cancel the project and use the money to put up a technology park in Mandera and Garsen.
We do not need to recreate the wheel, just visit yahoomobile, googleearthmobile, or if you have a GPRS enabled phone try wap.mystocks.co.ke. Or next time you are going up towards NIC on Bunyala Road look at the Nokia advert.
The mobile phone is the future let embrace it or perish.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 KEnya Tel: +254722511225
----- Original Message ---- From: Harry Hare <harry@africanedevelopment.org> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Monday, 19 November, 2007 6:16:53 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier in TransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
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Dear Kwach,
I agree with you and it is equally interesting to note that some mobile applications are already being implemented…I
dare say that this part of the world will see more mGovernment in the G2C (Government to Citizens) arena than the traditional eGovernment where the PC is the main service delivery channel. Most welcome to attend the session.
Kindest regards
Harry
From: Kwach [mailto:kwach@archway-productions.com]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 5:51 PM
To: 'Harry Hare'
Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
Subject: RE: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier in TransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
Hi Harry,
These are interesting statistics and scenario. For developing countries, there is urgent need to move from quantity to quality. In my view, content is the quality because more 65% of mobiles are only meeting social needs and costs involved have got no direct linkage to revenue for the owners, which should be a great concern.
With Mobile Government, time and resources used in the rural to the say Government offices miles away would be deployed in other economic activities.
I am keen to attend.
Kwach Akich
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On Behalf Of Harry Hare
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:49 AM
To: kwach@archway-productions.com
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier in TransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
Dear Colleagues,
Mobile services are quickly emerging as the new frontier in transforming government and making it even more accessible and citizen-centric by extending the benefits of remote delivery of government services and information to those who are unable or unwilling to access public services through the Internet or simply prefer to use mobile devices. In theory, many government services can be now made available on a 24x7x365 basis at any place in the country covered by mobile networks, which today means almost everywhere! Michael, correct me if Im wrong.
It is from this background that the World Bank in partnership with eGovWorld 2007 (www.egovworld.com) and African eDevelopment Resource Centre presents a dialogue on Mobile Government (mGovernment) on 29th November 2007, 4.30pm -7.00pm at the World Bank offices, Nairobi. The dialogue is live Video Conference and an integral part of the eGovWorld 2007 conference taking place in India 29-30 November 2007.
According to the ITU, the total number of mobile users worldwide as of late 2006 was about 2.7 billion and the number of internet users was just above 1.1 billion. This means that there is 33.6% of world population (and 22.2% of developing countries population) who already have mobile phones but are not yet using the Internet.
Does this provide a strong case for leveraging the mobile channel to dramatically improve access to public services, including electronic government services to those who can afford to use a personal or shared mobile phone? Does this create an opportunity to connect in the near future the next two billion people to some of the benefits of e-government, e-health, e-education, e-banking and e-commerce? How exactly can Mobile Government change the lives of common people in developing countries? What are best examples of such impact? What are the key constraints to making this vision a reality? How should governments change the way they do business to take advantage of mobile technologies? What is the role of the private sector? Are there successful business models (e.g. PPP) for private sector companies to deliver value-added m-government services?
These are some of the questions that will be addressed.
Participation to the event is free; however, one needs to register to get access to the venue. If you are interested in participating send an email directly to susan@africanedevelopment.org for a registration form. Space is limited at the venue, only 20 places are available and will be given out on a first-come-first-served basis. Deadline for registration is Wednesday 22nd November.
Program:
+++++
Welcome & Introduction
Samia Melhem, Senior Operations Officer, Global ICT, World Bank; and Chair, e-Development Thematic Group
Vikas Kanungo, Chairman, The Society for Promotion of e-Governance, India & Convener, eGovWorld 2007
Opening Remarks/Keynote address
R. Chandrashekhar, Additional Secretary (e-Governance), DIT, Government of India
Speakers
Ibrahim Kushchu, Associate Professor and Director, Mobile Government Consortium International & Author, "m-Government: An Emerging Direction in e-Government", UK
Hannes Astok, Member of Parliament & former Deputy Mayor, City of Tartu , Estonia
Kindest Regards
Harry Hare
Executive Director
African eDevelopment Resource Centre
3rd Floor, Nelleon Place , Raphta Road , Westlands
PO Box 49475 00100, Nairobi
Tel +254 20 4453445
Cel +254 725 650044
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It has got nothing to do with the CCK but is a commercial issue with TKL Kenya. Both parties are well aware of what has to be done and it is a matter of getting this concluded. Both mobile operators have the same issue. I do not know what high costs you are referring to. Michael CEO Safaricom Limited -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Alex Gakuru Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 8:16 AM To: Michael Joseph Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New FrontierinTransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007 Hope is not a bad thing to have but just its just a wish. Until you finally "finalise" the agreement completely then let high costs bite deeper and deeper into our pockets. If we had a CCK that protected consumers this would have happened 2 months ago. Alex On Nov 26, 2007 8:06 AM, Michael Joseph <MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke> wrote:
There is no blocking as such. Simply stated the agreements to open up the SMS interconnectivity have not been completed. We hope that this will be done soon.
Regards,
Michael
CEO
Safaricom Limited
________________________________
From: kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of robert yawe Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:50 AM To: Michael Joseph
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier inTransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
Hi,
I am unable to send an SMS from my safaricom line to CDMA numbers. Who is responsible for making sure that we are not blocked from sending messages across networks.
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 KEnya
Tel: +254722511225
----- Original Message ---- From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: bitange@jambo.co.ke; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, 23 November, 2007 11:20:03 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier in TransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
Dear Yawe, Welcome to KICTAnet. Just wanted to know how you got to know that Ministry of Information, CCK and ICT Board did not act on the Safaricom/TKL sms issue? Do you know the mandate of these "bodies"? My friend, in the past one year did you not come across the mention of the ICT Bill? I really want to be of help to you but first I want to understand where you are coming from.
Regards
Bitange Ndemo.
Hi All,
I am new to this mailing list and would like to start by saying something about myself.
I am an Information Technology specialist with over 15 years experience which means I know how to use DOS, UNIX and other OS's that exist only on 5.25" floppy disks. My area of specialisation is in design & implementation of local and wide area networks.
On the issue of mGovernment I do agree that this is the next frontier but it is shocking, as usual, that we are not embracing the technology or even working to develop the necessary legislation to make it flourish. AS many web site designers about WAP and they are lost, we are designing heavy sites that have no intelligence to identify the type of device accessing the site and thus adjust the page to display better on the particular device.
It is interesting that CCK and the Ministry of Information plus the ICT Board can sit back when the fight between Telkom and Safaricom on the delivery of SMS messages across the network continues to deny the tax payer (excise duty on airtime). Or the fact that none of the mentioned felt it necessary to educate Mr. Kivuitu on the need to make live electoral database available over SMS.
Now if we cannot take advantage of this opportunity to create local content and utilise mGovernment how can we entrust this "bodies" (which interestingly refers to expired humans) with making the marine cable a viable project. Maybe we should cancel the project and use the money to put up a technology park in Mandera and Garsen.
We do not need to recreate the wheel, just visit yahoomobile, googleearthmobile, or if you have a GPRS enabled phone try wap.mystocks.co.ke. Or next time you are going up towards NIC on Bunyala Road look at the Nokia advert.
The mobile phone is the future let embrace it or perish.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 KEnya Tel: +254722511225
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Dear Kwach,
I agree with you and it is equally interesting to note that some mobile applications are already being implementedââ'¬Â¦I
dare say that this part of the world will see more mGovernment in the G2C (Government to Citizens) arena than the traditional eGovernment where the PC is the main service delivery channel. Most welcome to attend the session.
Kindest regards
Harry
From: Kwach [mailto:kwach@archway-productions.com]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 5:51 PM
To: 'Harry Hare'
Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
Subject: RE: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier in TransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
Hi Harry,
These are interesting statistics and scenario. For developing countries, there is urgent need to move from quantity to quality. In my view, content is the quality because more 65% of mobiles are only meeting social needs and costs involved have got no direct linkage to revenue for the owners, which should be a great concern.
With Mobile Government, time and resources used in the rural to the say Government offices miles away would be deployed in other economic activities.
I am keen to attend.
Kwach Akich
From: kictanet-bounces+kwach=archway-productions.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke
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Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:49 AM
To: kwach@archway-productions.com
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier in TransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
Dear Colleagues,
Mobile services are quickly emerging as the new frontier in transforming government and making it even more accessible and citizen-centric by extending the benefits of remote delivery of government services and information to those who are unable or unwilling to access public services through the Internet or simply prefer to use mobile devices. In theory, many government services can be now made available on a 24x7x365 basis at any place in the country covered by mobile networks, which today means almost everywhere! Michael, correct me if Im wrong.
It is from this background that the World Bank in partnership with eGovWorld 2007 (www.egovworld.com) and African eDevelopment Resource Centre presents a dialogue on Mobile Government (mGovernment) on 29th November 2007, 4.30pm -7.00pm at the World Bank offices, Nairobi. The dialogue is live Video Conference and an integral part of the eGovWorld 2007 conference taking place in India 29-30 November 2007.
According to the ITU, the total number of mobile users worldwide as of late 2006 was about 2.7 billion and the number of internet users was just above 1.1 billion. This means that there is 33.6% of world population (and 22.2% of developing countries population) who already have mobile phones but are not yet using the Internet.
Does this provide a strong case for leveraging the mobile channel to dramatically improve access to public services, including electronic government services to those who can afford to use a personal or shared mobile phone? Does this create an opportunity to connect in the near future the next two billion people to some of the benefits of e-government, e-health, e-education, e-banking and e-commerce? How exactly can Mobile Government change the lives of common people in developing countries? What are best examples of such impact? What are the key constraints to making this vision a reality? How should governments change the way they do business to take advantage of mobile technologies? What is the role of the private sector? Are there successful business models (e.g. PPP) for private sector companies to deliver value-added m-government services?
These are some of the questions that will be addressed.
Participation to the event is free; however, one needs to register to get access to the venue. If you are interested in participating send an email directly to susan@africanedevelopment.org for a registration form. Space is limited at the venue, only 20 places are available and will be given out on a first-come-first-served basis. Deadline for registration is Wednesday 22nd November.
Program:
+++++
Welcome & Introduction
Samia Melhem, Senior Operations Officer, Global ICT, World Bank; and Chair, e-Development Thematic Group
Vikas Kanungo, Chairman, The Society for Promotion of e-Governance, India & Convener, eGovWorld 2007
Opening Remarks/Keynote address
R. Chandrashekhar, Additional Secretary (e-Governance), DIT, Government of India
Speakers
Ibrahim Kushchu, Associate Professor and Director, Mobile Government Consortium International & Author, "m-Government: An Emerging Direction in e-Government", UK
Hannes Astok, Member of Parliament & former Deputy Mayor, City of Tartu , Estonia
Kindest Regards
Harry Hare
Executive Director
African eDevelopment Resource Centre
3rd Floor, Nelleon Place , Raphta Road , Westlands
PO Box 49475 00100, Nairobi
Tel +254 20 4453445
Cel +254 725 650044
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all networks interconnection are subject to CCK thus it has everything to do with them in fulfilling their legal mandate to protect consumers especially where outcry are so loud it break many high glass offices blocks. Further, TKL has been on the press stating otherwise. "In its letter to Mr John Waweru, the Communications Commission of Kenya director general, Telkom Kenya is accusing Safaricom of practising anti-competitive behaviour in the market —especially in the Short Messages Services (SMS) segment of the business." http://www.bdafrica.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3703&Itemid=5810 High costs are relative so allow me to pass that questions On Nov 26, 2007 8:23 AM, Michael Joseph <MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke> wrote:
It has got nothing to do with the CCK but is a commercial issue with TKL Kenya. Both parties are well aware of what has to be done and it is a matter of getting this concluded. Both mobile operators have the same issue.
I do not know what high costs you are referring to.
Michael
CEO Safaricom Limited
-----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Alex Gakuru Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 8:16 AM To: Michael Joseph Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New FrontierinTransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
Hope is not a bad thing to have but just its just a wish. Until you finally "finalise" the agreement completely then let high costs bite deeper and deeper into our pockets.
If we had a CCK that protected consumers this would have happened 2 months ago.
Alex
On Nov 26, 2007 8:06 AM, Michael Joseph <MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke> wrote:
There is no blocking as such. Simply stated the agreements to open up the SMS interconnectivity have not been completed. We hope that this will be done soon.
Regards,
Michael
CEO
Safaricom Limited
________________________________
From: kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of robert yawe Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:50 AM To: Michael Joseph
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier inTransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
Hi,
I am unable to send an SMS from my safaricom line to CDMA numbers. Who is responsible for making sure that we are not blocked from sending messages across networks.
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 KEnya
Tel: +254722511225
----- Original Message ---- From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: bitange@jambo.co.ke; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, 23 November, 2007 11:20:03 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier in TransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
Dear Yawe, Welcome to KICTAnet. Just wanted to know how you got to know that Ministry of Information, CCK and ICT Board did not act on the Safaricom/TKL sms issue? Do you know the mandate of these "bodies"? My friend, in the past one year did you not come across the mention of the ICT Bill? I really want to be of help to you but first I want to understand where you are coming from.
Regards
Bitange Ndemo.
Hi All,
I am new to this mailing list and would like to start by saying something about myself.
I am an Information Technology specialist with over 15 years experience which means I know how to use DOS, UNIX and other OS's that exist only on 5.25" floppy disks. My area of specialisation is in design & implementation of local and wide area networks.
On the issue of mGovernment I do agree that this is the next frontier but it is shocking, as usual, that we are not embracing the technology or even working to develop the necessary legislation to make it flourish. AS many web site designers about WAP and they are lost, we are designing heavy sites that have no intelligence to identify the type of device accessing the site and thus adjust the page to display better on the particular device.
It is interesting that CCK and the Ministry of Information plus the ICT Board can sit back when the fight between Telkom and Safaricom on the delivery of SMS messages across the network continues to deny the tax payer (excise duty on airtime). Or the fact that none of the mentioned felt it necessary to educate Mr. Kivuitu on the need to make live electoral database available over SMS.
Now if we cannot take advantage of this opportunity to create local content and utilise mGovernment how can we entrust this "bodies" (which interestingly refers to expired humans) with making the marine cable a viable project. Maybe we should cancel the project and use the money to put up a technology park in Mandera and Garsen.
We do not need to recreate the wheel, just visit yahoomobile, googleearthmobile, or if you have a GPRS enabled phone try wap.mystocks.co.ke. Or next time you are going up towards NIC on Bunyala Road look at the Nokia advert.
The mobile phone is the future let embrace it or perish.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 KEnya Tel: +254722511225
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Dear Kwach,
I agree with you and it is equally interesting to note that some mobile applications are already being implementedââ'¬Â¦I
dare say that this part of the world will see more mGovernment in the G2C (Government to Citizens) arena than the traditional eGovernment where the PC is the main service delivery channel. Most welcome to attend the session.
Kindest regards
Harry
From: Kwach [mailto:kwach@archway-productions.com]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 5:51 PM
To: 'Harry Hare'
Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
Subject: RE: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier in TransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
Hi Harry,
These are interesting statistics and scenario. For developing countries, there is urgent need to move from quantity to quality. In my view, content is the quality because more 65% of mobiles are only meeting social needs and costs involved have got no direct linkage to revenue for the owners, which should be a great concern.
With Mobile Government, time and resources used in the rural to the say Government offices miles away would be deployed in other economic activities.
I am keen to attend.
Kwach Akich
From: kictanet-bounces+kwach=archway-productions.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+kwach=archway-productions.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]
On Behalf Of Harry Hare
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:49 AM
To: kwach@archway-productions.com
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier in TransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
Dear Colleagues,
Mobile services are quickly emerging as the new frontier in transforming government and making it even more accessible and citizen-centric by extending the benefits of remote delivery of government services and information to those who are unable or unwilling to access public services through the Internet or simply prefer to use mobile devices. In theory, many government services can be now made available on a 24x7x365 basis at any place in the country covered by mobile networks, which today means almost everywhere! Michael, correct me if Im wrong.
It is from this background that the World Bank in partnership with eGovWorld 2007 (www.egovworld.com) and African eDevelopment Resource Centre presents a dialogue on Mobile Government (mGovernment) on 29th November 2007, 4.30pm -7.00pm at the World Bank offices, Nairobi. The dialogue is live Video Conference and an integral part of the eGovWorld 2007 conference taking place in India 29-30 November 2007.
According to the ITU, the total number of mobile users worldwide as of late 2006 was about 2.7 billion and the number of internet users was just above 1.1 billion. This means that there is 33.6% of world population (and 22.2% of developing countries population) who already have mobile phones but are not yet using the Internet.
Does this provide a strong case for leveraging the mobile channel to dramatically improve access to public services, including electronic government services to those who can afford to use a personal or shared mobile phone? Does this create an opportunity to connect in the near future the next two billion people to some of the benefits of e-government, e-health, e-education, e-banking and e-commerce? How exactly can Mobile Government change the lives of common people in developing countries? What are best examples of such impact? What are the key constraints to making this vision a reality? How should governments change the way they do business to take advantage of mobile technologies? What is the role of the private sector? Are there successful business models (e.g. PPP) for private sector companies to deliver value-added m-government services?
These are some of the questions that will be addressed.
Participation to the event is free; however, one needs to register to get access to the venue. If you are interested in participating send an email directly to susan@africanedevelopment.org for a registration form. Space is limited at the venue, only 20 places are available and will be given out on a first-come-first-served basis. Deadline for registration is Wednesday 22nd November.
Program:
+++++
Welcome & Introduction
Samia Melhem, Senior Operations Officer, Global ICT, World Bank; and Chair, e-Development Thematic Group
Vikas Kanungo, Chairman, The Society for Promotion of e-Governance, India & Convener, eGovWorld 2007
Opening Remarks/Keynote address
R. Chandrashekhar, Additional Secretary (e-Governance), DIT, Government of India
Speakers
Ibrahim Kushchu, Associate Professor and Director, Mobile Government Consortium International & Author, "m-Government: An Emerging Direction in e-Government", UK
Hannes Astok, Member of Parliament & former Deputy Mayor, City of Tartu , Estonia
Kindest Regards
Harry Hare
Executive Director
African eDevelopment Resource Centre
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High costs are relative so allow me to pass that questions
By not allowing people to be able to communicate (sms across both platforms), it cost more to use other means of third party and really it in some cases leads to loss of business. Not being able to communicate directly is not only high cost but leads to loss of business... Eric here On 26 Nov 2007, at 08:27, Alex Gakuru wrote:
all networks interconnection are subject to CCK thus it has everything to do with them in fulfilling their legal mandate to protect consumers especially where outcry are so loud it break many high glass offices blocks. Further, TKL has been on the press stating otherwise. "In its letter to Mr John Waweru, the Communications Commission of Kenya director general, Telkom Kenya is accusing Safaricom of practising anti-competitive behaviour in the market —especially in the Short Messages Services (SMS) segment of the business." http://www.bdafrica.com/index.php? option=com_content&task=view&id=3703&Itemid=5810
High costs are relative so allow me to pass that questions
On Nov 26, 2007 8:23 AM, Michael Joseph <MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke> wrote:
It has got nothing to do with the CCK but is a commercial issue with TKL Kenya. Both parties are well aware of what has to be done and it is a matter of getting this concluded. Both mobile operators have the same issue.
I do not know what high costs you are referring to.
Michael
CEO Safaricom Limited
-----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces +mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet- bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Alex Gakuru Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 8:16 AM To: Michael Joseph Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New FrontierinTransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
Hope is not a bad thing to have but just its just a wish. Until you finally "finalise" the agreement completely then let high costs bite deeper and deeper into our pockets.
If we had a CCK that protected consumers this would have happened 2 months ago.
Alex
On Nov 26, 2007 8:06 AM, Michael Joseph <MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke> wrote:
There is no blocking as such. Simply stated the agreements to open up the SMS interconnectivity have not been completed. We hope that this will be done soon.
Regards,
Michael
CEO
Safaricom Limited
________________________________
From: kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces +mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of robert yawe Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:50 AM To: Michael Joseph
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier inTransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
Hi,
I am unable to send an SMS from my safaricom line to CDMA numbers. Who is responsible for making sure that we are not blocked from sending messages across networks.
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 KEnya
Tel: +254722511225
----- Original Message ---- From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: bitange@jambo.co.ke; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, 23 November, 2007 11:20:03 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier in TransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
Dear Yawe, Welcome to KICTAnet. Just wanted to know how you got to know that Ministry of Information, CCK and ICT Board did not act on the Safaricom/TKL sms issue? Do you know the mandate of these "bodies"? My friend, in the past one year did you not come across the mention of the ICT Bill? I really want to be of help to you but first I want to understand where you are coming from.
Regards
Bitange Ndemo.
Hi All,
I am new to this mailing list and would like to start by saying something about myself.
I am an Information Technology specialist with over 15 years experience which means I know how to use DOS, UNIX and other OS's that exist only on 5.25" floppy disks. My area of specialisation is in design & implementation of local and wide area networks.
On the issue of mGovernment I do agree that this is the next frontier but it is shocking, as usual, that we are not embracing the technology or even working to develop the necessary legislation to make it flourish. AS many web site designers about WAP and they are lost, we are designing heavy sites that have no intelligence to identify the type of device accessing the site and thus adjust the page to display better on the particular device.
It is interesting that CCK and the Ministry of Information plus the ICT Board can sit back when the fight between Telkom and Safaricom on the delivery of SMS messages across the network continues to deny the tax payer (excise duty on airtime). Or the fact that none of the mentioned felt it necessary to educate Mr. Kivuitu on the need to make live electoral database available over SMS.
Now if we cannot take advantage of this opportunity to create local content and utilise mGovernment how can we entrust this "bodies" (which interestingly refers to expired humans) with making the marine cable a viable project. Maybe we should cancel the project and use the money to put up a technology park in Mandera and Garsen.
We do not need to recreate the wheel, just visit yahoomobile, googleearthmobile, or if you have a GPRS enabled phone try wap.mystocks.co.ke. Or next time you are going up towards NIC on Bunyala Road look at the Nokia advert.
The mobile phone is the future let embrace it or perish.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 KEnya Tel: +254722511225
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Dear Kwach,
I agree with you and it is equally interesting to note that some mobile applications are already being implementedââ'¬Â¦I
dare say that this part of the world will see more mGovernment in the G2C (Government to Citizens) arena than the traditional eGovernment where the PC is the main service delivery channel. Most welcome to attend the session.
Kindest regards
Harry
From: Kwach [mailto:kwach@archway-productions.com]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 5:51 PM
To: 'Harry Hare'
Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
Subject: RE: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier in TransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
Hi Harry,
These are interesting statistics and scenario. For developing countries, there is urgent need to move from quantity to quality. In my view, content is the quality because more 65% of mobiles are only meeting social needs and costs involved have got no direct linkage to revenue for the owners, which should be a great concern.
With Mobile Government, time and resources used in the rural to the say Government offices miles away would be deployed in other economic activities.
I am keen to attend.
Kwach Akich
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To: kwach@archway-productions.com
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier in TransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
Dear Colleagues,
Mobile services are quickly emerging as the new frontier in transforming government and making it even more accessible and citizen-centric by extending the benefits of remote delivery of government services and information to those who are unable or unwilling to access public services through the Internet or simply prefer to use mobile devices. In theory, many government services can be now made available on a 24x7x365 basis at any place in the country covered by mobile networks, which today means almost everywhere! Michael, correct me if Im wrong.
It is from this background that the World Bank in partnership with eGovWorld 2007 (www.egovworld.com) and African eDevelopment Resource Centre presents a dialogue on Mobile Government (mGovernment) on 29th November 2007, 4.30pm -7.00pm at the World Bank offices, Nairobi. The dialogue is live Video Conference and an integral part of the eGovWorld 2007 conference taking place in India 29-30 November 2007.
According to the ITU, the total number of mobile users worldwide as of late 2006 was about 2.7 billion and the number of internet users was just above 1.1 billion. This means that there is 33.6% of world population (and 22.2% of developing countries population) who already have mobile phones but are not yet using the Internet.
Does this provide a strong case for leveraging the mobile channel to dramatically improve access to public services, including electronic government services to those who can afford to use a personal or shared mobile phone? Does this create an opportunity to connect in the near future the next two billion people to some of the benefits of e-government, e- health, e-education, e-banking and e-commerce? How exactly can Mobile Government change the lives of common people in developing countries? What are best examples of such impact? What are the key constraints to making this vision a reality? How should governments change the way they do business to take advantage of mobile technologies? What is the role of the private sector? Are there successful business models (e.g. PPP) for private sector companies to deliver value-added m-government services?
These are some of the questions that will be addressed.
Participation to the event is free; however, one needs to register to get access to the venue. If you are interested in participating send an email directly to susan@africanedevelopment.org for a registration form. Space is limited at the venue, only 20 places are available and will be given out on a first-come-first-served basis. Deadline for registration is Wednesday 22nd November.
Program:
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Welcome & Introduction
Samia Melhem, Senior Operations Officer, Global ICT, World Bank; and Chair, e-Development Thematic Group
Vikas Kanungo, Chairman, The Society for Promotion of e-Governance, India & Convener, eGovWorld 2007
Opening Remarks/Keynote address
R. Chandrashekhar, Additional Secretary (e-Governance), DIT, Government of India
Speakers
Ibrahim Kushchu, Associate Professor and Director, Mobile Government Consortium International & Author, "m- Government: An Emerging Direction in e-Government", UK
Hannes Astok, Member of Parliament & former Deputy Mayor, City of Tartu , Estonia
Kindest Regards
Harry Hare
Executive Director
African eDevelopment Resource Centre
3rd Floor, Nelleon Place , Raphta Road , Westlands
PO Box 49475 00100, Nairobi
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my quick two cents. 1. On high-costs: 'High-cost' is actually NOT relative- having been defined by UN/ITU as the cost of service as a % of the Gross National Income per Capita. (ITU Digital Access Indices ( ITU News, 2003). In simpler times, are the citizens continuously faced with the 'difficult' choice between communicating and buying their next meal? i.e if the cost of communication results in their missing their next meal then the service is quite expensive. 2. On Commercial Agreements between Operators: I believe the operators have the 1st privilege to reach an agreement. However, the Regulator reserves the right to interven in the event that the agreement is not being reached soon enought. walu. --- Alex Gakuru <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
all networks interconnection are subject to CCK thus it has everything to do with them in fulfilling their legal mandate to protect consumers especially where outcry are so loud it break many high glass offices blocks. Further, TKL has been on the press stating otherwise. "In its letter to Mr John Waweru, the Communications Commission of Kenya director general, Telkom Kenya is accusing Safaricom of practising anti-competitive behaviour in the market especially in the Short Messages Services (SMS) segment of the business."
http://www.bdafrica.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3703&Itemid=5810
High costs are relative so allow me to pass that questions
On Nov 26, 2007 8:23 AM, Michael Joseph <MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke> wrote:
It has got nothing to do with the CCK but is a commercial issue with TKL Kenya. Both parties are well aware of what has to be done and it is a matter of getting this concluded. Both mobile operators have the same issue.
I do not know what high costs you are referring to.
Michael
CEO Safaricom Limited
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kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke]
On Behalf Of Alex Gakuru
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 8:16 AM To: Michael Joseph Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New FrontierinTransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
Hope is not a bad thing to have but just its just a wish. Until you finally "finalise" the agreement completely then let high costs bite deeper and deeper into our pockets.
If we had a CCK that protected consumers this would have happened 2 months ago.
Alex
On Nov 26, 2007 8:06 AM, Michael Joseph <MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke> wrote:
There is no blocking as such. Simply stated the
agreements to open up the
SMS interconnectivity have not been completed. We hope that this will be done soon.
Regards,
Michael
CEO
Safaricom Limited
________________________________
From:
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Behalf Of robert yawe Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:50 AM To: Michael Joseph
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier inTransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
Hi,
I am unable to send an SMS from my safaricom line to CDMA numbers. Who is responsible for making sure that we are not blocked from sending messages across networks.
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 KEnya
Tel: +254722511225
----- Original Message ---- From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: bitange@jambo.co.ke; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, 23 November, 2007 11:20:03 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier in TransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
Dear Yawe, Welcome to KICTAnet. Just wanted to know how you got to know that Ministry of Information, CCK and ICT Board did not act on the Safaricom/TKL sms issue? Do you know the mandate of
friend, in the past one year did you not come across
On these "bodies"? My the mention of the
ICT Bill? I really want to be of help to you but first I want to understand where you are coming from.
Regards
Bitange Ndemo.
Hi All,
I am new to this mailing list and would like to start by saying something about myself.
I am an Information Technology specialist with over 15 years experience which means I know how to use DOS, UNIX and other OS's that exist only on 5.25" floppy disks. My area of specialisation is in design & implementation of local and wide area networks.
On the issue of mGovernment I do agree that this is the next frontier but it is shocking, as usual, that we are not embracing the technology or even working to develop the necessary legislation to make it flourish. AS many web site designers about WAP and they are lost, we are designing heavy sites that have no intelligence to identify the type of device accessing
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Actually the agreement has been reached by both parties. We are just waiting for some outstanding items to be concluded. Michael CEO Safaricom Limited -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of John Walubengo Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 12:14 PM To: Michael Joseph Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The NewFrontierinTransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007 my quick two cents. 1. On high-costs: 'High-cost' is actually NOT relative- having been defined by UN/ITU as the cost of service as a % of the Gross National Income per Capita. (ITU Digital Access Indices ( ITU News, 2003). In simpler times, are the citizens continuously faced with the 'difficult' choice between communicating and buying their next meal? i.e if the cost of communication results in their missing their next meal then the service is quite expensive. 2. On Commercial Agreements between Operators: I believe the operators have the 1st privilege to reach an agreement. However, the Regulator reserves the right to interven in the event that the agreement is not being reached soon enought. walu. --- Alex Gakuru <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
all networks interconnection are subject to CCK thus it has everything to do with them in fulfilling their legal mandate to protect consumers especially where outcry are so loud it break many high glass offices blocks. Further, TKL has been on the press stating otherwise. "In its letter to Mr John Waweru, the Communications Commission of Kenya director general, Telkom Kenya is accusing Safaricom of practising anti-competitive behaviour in the market -especially in the Short Messages Services (SMS) segment of the business."
http://www.bdafrica.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3703&I temid=5810
High costs are relative so allow me to pass that questions
On Nov 26, 2007 8:23 AM, Michael Joseph <MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke> wrote:
It has got nothing to do with the CCK but is a commercial issue with TKL Kenya. Both parties are well aware of what has to be done and it is a matter of getting this concluded. Both mobile operators have the same issue.
I do not know what high costs you are referring to.
Michael
CEO Safaricom Limited
-----Original Message----- From:
kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke]
On Behalf Of Alex Gakuru
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 8:16 AM To: Michael Joseph Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New FrontierinTransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
Hope is not a bad thing to have but just its just a wish. Until you finally "finalise" the agreement completely then let high costs bite deeper and deeper into our pockets.
If we had a CCK that protected consumers this would have happened 2 months ago.
Alex
On Nov 26, 2007 8:06 AM, Michael Joseph <MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke> wrote:
There is no blocking as such. Simply stated the
agreements to open up the
SMS interconnectivity have not been completed. We hope that this will be done soon.
Regards,
Michael
CEO
Safaricom Limited
________________________________
From:
kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke]
Behalf Of robert yawe Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:50 AM To: Michael Joseph
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier inTransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
Hi,
I am unable to send an SMS from my safaricom line to CDMA numbers. Who is responsible for making sure that we are not blocked from sending messages across networks.
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 KEnya
Tel: +254722511225
----- Original Message ---- From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: bitange@jambo.co.ke; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, 23 November, 2007 11:20:03 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier in TransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
Dear Yawe, Welcome to KICTAnet. Just wanted to know how you got to know that Ministry of Information, CCK and ICT Board did not act on the Safaricom/TKL sms issue? Do you know the mandate of
friend, in the past one year did you not come across
On these "bodies"? My the mention of the
ICT Bill? I really want to be of help to you but first I want to understand where you are coming from.
Regards
Bitange Ndemo.
Hi All,
I am new to this mailing list and would like to start by saying something about myself.
I am an Information Technology specialist with over 15 years experience which means I know how to use DOS, UNIX and other OS's that exist only on 5.25" floppy disks. My area of specialisation is in design & implementation of local and wide area networks.
On the issue of mGovernment I do agree that this is the next frontier but it is shocking, as usual, that we are not embracing the technology or even working to develop the necessary legislation to make it flourish. AS many web site designers about WAP and they are lost, we are designing heavy sites that have no intelligence to identify the type of device accessing
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