There are couple of things we need to bear in mind with the Digital Migration . It will improve the quality of broadcast to the public as new players will enter the market. This will also bring more choice to the public and increasing competition will bring affordability to the market. Hence, it is a technology for the masses, yes in the early days the effort will be fragmented and the early adopter will be buying into the technology. . There will be opportunities for new value added services to be available, like providing good quality Electronic Programme Guide information to the STB/Mux operators, opportunities in helping companies to build new business models around advertising, the service and repair of the boxes, the installation of the boxes etc etc. . The available spectrum could be used for alternative data services, or more bandwidth for certain other applications. Therefore, let us not restrict our thinking that the end customer will be short changed in fact from a social perspective it will improve the quality as did mobile phones, please take time to look at how the introduction of mobile data services has impacted the socio - economic structure of the well-being of our people e.g. there is a who social-economic eco-system around services like m-pesa, there could be if we wanted another social TV experience built upon this on having various interactive services. There is my 2 cents worth. Best Regards, Baiju From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+baiju=tele2media.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Mark Mwangi Sent: 07 December 2012 12:24 To: Baiju Shah Cc: Kictanet Mail list Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance The statements by Linus and the like championing for the mwananchi are retrogressive. Its like blocking the implementation of 3G technology because most users have mulika mwizis. Its an assumption that high technology is for the elite and the 'sufferers' have no use for better, more efficient and progressive technology. Its hubris and elitism if anything. TV is not a necessity. It is a luxury. As such this debate should not be about whether to switch off it should be what happens to the free spectrum in January 2013. On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 9:59 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Hi, This is where we are going wrong, the digital migration has nothing to do with digital TV sets its about how the signal will be transmitted, please try and see the bigger picture here. When we moved from analogue internet connectivity where you needed a modem to the digital transmission where you needed a DTU/ADSL/Dongle why didn't you please with the government to stop the importation of Pentium processor based computers or 14" monitors or AT keyboards so that users could transition? If you remember the ISPs never even gave us a transition period and some never even implemented analogue connectivity. This is the same case with the digital TV migration, you do not need a digital TV to benefit from the new method of transmission all that you are changing is the equivalent of your analogue modem with a digital receiver and nothing more, also remember that this transition is a world wide project and it would be foolhardy to try and stop the oncoming train. As Kenyans, we have proven time and time again that we are resilient and innovative, we turned off "fake" phones and on the following day they where getting reactivated thanks to the power of google, turn off the analogue signal tomorrow and we shall have 500/- decoders available for sale along the streets of Nairobi, keep postponing the switchoff and there will be no meaning uptake of the digital devices, have you registered for election yet? All this noise from the entrenched media houses that we are propagating has nothing to do with if Kenyans with black and white TVs can afford to buy the decoder but more on trying to delay the shift of broadcasting power to a more open platform, so before you come to the defense of Linus and his ilk find out whose agenda you are promoting, instead of coming forward and responding to the discussion going on here of which I am sure they are listening, they send mercenaries . Dr. Ndemo, I again say kudos and tell you keep the course and do what is right for the Nation and avoid being distracted by those with selfish agendas, deliver on this and Konza has a better chance of seeing the light of day. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225 <tel:%2B254722511225> , +254202010696 <tel:%2B254202010696> _____ From: meshack emakunat <memakunat@yahoo.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Meshack <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, 5 December 2012, 16:48 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance Dear list I read this thread and all i see is the "the cart before the horse". I believe Mr gitahi was referring to affordability rather compatibility and adaptability. @Robert, don't you think Kenyans should be given enough time to migrate rather than have a paradigm shift in tech use. I think that we should ban the importation of analog TV as somebody suggested earlier then will have a gradual change till 2015 Sent from Yahoo! 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Not to forget, more primary and high school education channels + text services for the same :) On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Baiju Shah <baiju@tele2media.com> wrote:

There are couple of things we need to bear in mind with the Digital Migration****

**· **It will improve the quality of broadcast to the public as new players will enter the market. This will also bring more choice to the public and increasing competition will bring affordability to the market. Hence, it is a technology for the masses, yes in the early days the effort will be fragmented and the early adopter will be buying into the technology. ****

**· **There will be opportunities for new value added services to be available, like providing good quality Electronic Programme Guide information to the STB/Mux operators, opportunities in helping companies to build new business models around advertising, the service and repair of the boxes, the installation of the boxes etc etc.****

**· **The available spectrum could be used for alternative data services, or more bandwidth for certain other applications.****

** **

Therefore, let us not restrict our thinking that the end customer will be short changed in fact from a social perspective it will improve the quality as did mobile phones, please take time to look at how the introduction of mobile data services has impacted the socio – economic structure of the well-being of our people e.g. there is a who social-economic eco-system around services like m-pesa, there could be if we wanted another social TV experience built upon this on having various interactive services.****

** **

There is my 2 cents worth.****

** **

Best Regards,****

Baiju****

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*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+baiju= tele2media.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Mark Mwangi *Sent:* 07 December 2012 12:24 *To:* Baiju Shah *Cc:* Kictanet Mail list

*Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance****

** **

The statements by Linus and the like championing for the mwananchi are retrogressive. Its like blocking the implementation of 3G technology because most users have mulika mwizis. Its an assumption that high technology is for the elite and the 'sufferers' have no use for better, more efficient and progressive technology. Its hubris and elitism if anything. TV is not a necessity. It is a luxury. As such this debate should not be about whether to switch off it should be what happens to the free spectrum in January 2013. ****

** **

On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 9:59 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:****

Hi,****

** **

This is where we are going wrong, the digital migration has nothing to do with digital TV sets its about how the signal will be transmitted, please try and see the bigger picture here.****

** **

When we moved from analogue internet connectivity where you needed a modem to the digital transmission where you needed a DTU/ADSL/Dongle why didn't you please with the government to stop the importation of Pentium processor based computers or 14" monitors or AT keyboards so that users could transition? If you remember the ISPs never even gave us a transition period and some never even implemented analogue connectivity. ****

** **

This is the same case with the digital TV migration, you do not need a digital TV to benefit from the new method of transmission all that you are changing is the equivalent of your analogue modem with a digital receiver and nothing more, also remember that this transition is a world wide project and it would be foolhardy to try and stop the oncoming train. *** *

** **

As Kenyans, we have proven time and time again that we are resilient and innovative, we turned off "fake" phones and on the following day they where getting reactivated thanks to the power of google, turn off the analogue signal tomorrow and we shall have 500/- decoders available for sale along the streets of Nairobi, keep postponing the switchoff and there will be no meaning uptake of the digital devices, have you registered for election yet? ****

** **

All this noise from the entrenched media houses that we are propagating has nothing to do with if Kenyans with black and white TVs can afford to buy the decoder but more on trying to delay the shift of broadcasting power to a more open platform, so before you come to the defense of Linus and his ilk find out whose agenda you are promoting, instead of coming forward and responding to the discussion going on here of which I am sure they are listening, they send mercenaries .****

** **

Dr. Ndemo, I again say kudos and tell you keep the course and do what is right for the Nation and avoid being distracted by those with selfish agendas, deliver on this and Konza has a better chance of seeing the light of day.****

** **

Regards****

****

Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya****

Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696**** ------------------------------

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Dear list I read this thread and all i see is the "the cart before the horse". I believe Mr gitahi was referring to affordability rather compatibility and adaptability. @Robert, don't you think Kenyans should be given enough time to migrate rather than have a paradigm shift in tech use. I think that we should ban the importation of analog TV as somebody suggested earlier then will have a gradual change till 2015****

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From what I gather, (and my experience so far) Digital TV appears to be of poorer quality than Analogue broadcast. In some countries though, the switch has seen people enjoy higher quality as the switch sees existing stations broadcast in High Definition rather than Standard Definition.

In Kenya, it appears some transmitters have so many stations that broadcasting is below Standard Definition to accommodate all. Is this the case, and is there quality assurance on the shift? If the government wants to add more broadcasters, shouldn't more spectrum be allocated to accommodate them?

Listers, Consumer Federation of Kenya (COFEK) has gone to court to stop the planned Digital Switchover in Nairobi at the end of this month. This is most unfortunate considering the fact that the current analogue broadcast has been the most discriminating. Majority of Kenyans have not seen the level of communication that Digital offers (this is what the constitution demands). In the new platform we have seen more vernacular channels delivering news in a language that people understand and relate to. It therefore surprises me when an organization such as COFEK moves to court to protect an elitist broadcast platform. Further every one new channel creates more than thirty new jobs. There are more than one hundred and fifty new applications awaiting clearance to start digital broadcast. Twenty of these are already on air. If we get two hundred new broadcasters, we shall have achieved our quest for having a pluralistic and diversified broadcast environment. In whose interest is COFEK advancing the agenda of maintaining monopolistic practices in Kenyan Media? Does COFEK really understands the seriousness of unemployment in Kenya? The cost of not migrating is far too great than biting the bullet now and enable frequency spectrum to be used in more productive and inclusive manner. The benefits of mobile operators moving from 2G to 3G are glaring. We need to scale up to 4G and create a robust last mile that will reduce the rural urban digital divide; that will create an enabling playing field when we start delivering new local content to schools country-wide. Most of the world has migrated and they fully understand why we need to free up spectrum. EAC member states agreed on the December 31st deadline and Tanzania for example has committed itself to this agreed deadline despite not having a completed the national roll-out of the digital signal. In Kenya we have adopted a phased plan starting from Nairobi. Technology changes every six months and Kenya must remain at the technological edge in order to remain the true hub of Africa. We seem to be exercising freedom without any responsibility. Ndemo.

Hi,

This is where we are going wrong, the digital migration has nothing to do with digital TV sets its about how the signal will be transmitted, please try and see the bigger picture here.

When we moved from analogue internet connectivity where you needed a modem to the digital transmission where you needed a DTU/ADSL/Dongle why didn't you please with the government to stop the importation of Pentium processor based computers or 14" monitors or AT keyboards so that users could transition?  If you remember the ISPs never even gave us a transition period and some never even implemented analogue connectivity. 

This is the same case with the digital TV migration, you do not need a digital TV to benefit from the new method of transmission all that you are changing is the equivalent of your analogue modem with a digital receiver and nothing more, also remember that this transition is a world wide project and it would be foolhardy to try and stop the oncoming train. 

As Kenyans, we have proven time and time again that we are resilient and innovative, we turned off "fake" phones and on the following day they where getting reactivated thanks to the power of google, turn off the analogue signal tomorrow and we shall have 500/- decoders available for sale along the streets of Nairobi, keep postponing the switchoff and there will be no meaning uptake of the digital devices, have you registered for election yet?

All this noise from the entrenched media houses that we are propagating has nothing to do with if Kenyans with black and white TVs can afford to buy the decoder but more on trying to delay the shift of broadcasting power to a more open platform, so before you come to the defense of Linus and his ilk find out whose agenda you are promoting, instead of coming forward and responding to the discussion going on here of which I am sure they are listening, they send mercenaries .

Dr. Ndemo, I again say kudos and tell you keep the course and do what is right for the Nation and avoid being distracted by those with selfish agendas, deliver on this and Konza has a better chance of seeing the light of day.

Regards

  Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya

Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

________________________________ From: meshack emakunat <memakunat@yahoo.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Meshack <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, 5 December 2012, 16:48 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance

Dear list I read this thread and all i see is the "the cart before the horse". I believe Mr gitahi was referring to affordability rather compatibility and adaptability. @Robert, don't you think Kenyans should be given enough time to migrate rather than have a paradigm shift in tech use. I think that we should ban the importation of analog TV as somebody suggested earlier then will have a gradual change till 2015 Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet

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Much as I am for technological advancement and progress, I am with Kivuva on this. Why not close the tap as opposed to stuffing the faucet with expensive designer rags to stop the flow of analogue equipment/demand for such? Is it impossible to ban import of analogue TV sets or pervasive consumer education on not buying any TV sets that are not accompanied by a set-top box? I am sure studies can be done to determine a ball park figure of the no. of TVs in the country and thus able to source a similar no. of settop boxes from a chinese manufacturer. A subsidized settop box should go for an affordable price and we will have killed several birds with one stone. Expecting the private sector to solve a social problem is rather reckless on the governments part no? We rarely finish what we start. There was a plan to assemble the settop boxes locally. That evidently didn't fly. We also cant ignore that its election season and any move by the government will be inspected through political eyepieces. How will switching off the TV signal of a large swath of the population be interpreted? On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com>wrote:

Digital broadcast is great, no doubt about that, and the benefits are boundless. But let us not be elitist in the way we conduct the exercise.

You can free the airwaves, and create thousands of digital channels and jobs, but if I in Kibera and Mathare, I cannot afford to buy a setbox in the next year, I will be forced to use by TVbox as a stool.

Let those with money migrate, and let the poor enjoy the poor quality analog signal in peace until set boxes are dirt cheap.

On the other hand, to reach a consensus, give us cheap subsidized digital set boxes, say at 500bob, marked GoK, and give us adequate time to buy them.

Remember, 2000bob is my dinner for a month.

You switched off my phone, which I bought with hard earned cash, then you switch of my TV! Next you will switch of my radio, then ...

...

Listers, Consumer Federation of Kenya (COFEK) has gone to court to stop the

...

Digital Switchover in Nairobi at the end of this month. This is most unfortunate considering the fact that the current analogue broadcast has been the most discriminating. Majority of Kenyans have not seen the level of communication that Digital offers (this is what the constitution demands). In the new platform we have seen more vernacular channels delivering news in a language that people understand and relate to. It therefore surprises me when an organization such as COFEK moves to court to protect an elitist broadcast platform.

Further every one new channel creates more than thirty new jobs. There are more than one hundred and fifty new applications awaiting clearance to start digital broadcast. Twenty of these are already on air. If we get two hundred new broadcasters, we shall have achieved our quest for having a pluralistic and diversified broadcast environment. In whose interest is COFEK advancing the agenda of maintaining monopolistic practices in Kenyan Media? Does COFEK really understands the seriousness of unemployment in Kenya?

The cost of not migrating is far too great than biting the bullet now and enable frequency spectrum to be used in more productive and inclusive manner. The benefits of mobile operators moving from 2G to 3G are glaring. We need to scale up to 4G and create a robust last mile that will reduce the rural urban digital divide; that will create an enabling playing field when we start delivering new local content to schools country-wide.

Most of the world has migrated and they fully understand why we need to free up spectrum. EAC member states agreed on the December 31st deadline and Tanzania for example has committed itself to this agreed deadline despite not having a completed the national roll-out of the digital signal. In Kenya we have adopted a phased plan starting from Nairobi. Technology changes every six months and Kenya must remain at the technological edge in order to remain the true hub of Africa. We seem to be exercising freedom without any responsibility.

Ndemo.

...

Hi,

This is where we are going wrong, the digital migration has nothing to do with digital TV sets its about how the signal will be transmitted,

On 12/12/2012, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: planned please

...

...

try and see the bigger picture here.

When we moved from analogue internet connectivity where you needed a modem to the digital transmission where you needed a DTU/ADSL/Dongle why didn't you please with the government to stop the importation of Pentium processor based computers or 14" monitors or AT keyboards so that users could transition? If you remember the ISPs never even gave us a transition period and some never even implemented analogue connectivity.

This is the same case with the digital TV migration, you do not need a digital TV to benefit from the new method of transmission all that you are changing is the equivalent of your analogue modem with a digital receiver and nothing more, also remember that this transition is a world wide project and it would be foolhardy to try and stop the oncoming train.

As Kenyans, we have proven time and time again that we are resilient and innovative, we turned off "fake" phones and on the following day they where getting reactivated thanks to the power of google, turn off the analogue signal tomorrow and we shall have 500/- decoders available for sale along the streets of Nairobi, keep postponing the switchoff and there will be no meaning uptake of the digital devices, have you registered for election yet?

All this noise from the entrenched media houses that we are propagating has nothing to do with if Kenyans with black and white TVs can afford to buy the decoder but more on trying to delay the shift of broadcasting power to a more open platform, so before you come to the defense of Linus and his ilk find out whose agenda you are promoting, instead of coming forward and responding to the discussion going on here of which I am sure they are listening, they send mercenaries .

Dr. Ndemo, I again say kudos and tell you keep the course and do what is right for the Nation and avoid being distracted by those with selfish agendas, deliver on this and Konza has a better chance of seeing the light of day.

Regards

Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya

Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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Dear list I read this thread and all i see is the "the cart before the horse". I believe Mr gitahi was referring to affordability rather compatibility and adaptability. @Robert, don't you think Kenyans should be given enough time to migrate rather than have a paradigm shift in tech use. I think that we should ban the importation of analog TV as somebody suggested earlier then will have a gradual change till 2015 Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet

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Listers, Why are we so concerned about the cost, if the freeing up of the spectrum will avail space for a variety of areas like data, if we are able to reduce our V-Sat bill as a country As this cash from being a payment for import becomes an enabler for Everybody to have access. Thanks, Baiju Shah Tele2media Ltd Telemedia Africa Ltd Tel. +44 7887691570 email: baiju@tele2media.com On 19 Dec 2012, at 21:20, Stephen Mutoro <smutoro@yahoo.com> wrote:

Thanks for thinking for consumers in a more broad and realistic spectrum (including rural proletariats) beyond the minority but noisy middle to higher income Nairobi CBD/Upper Hill techies who are obsessed about 4+G when millions of others can't access 2-G. There is nothing like "mass ignorance" or "mass intelligence" on a matter of human/consumer rights as ably articulated within Consumer Protection Act, 2012 (which took effect on December 13).

Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke

On Dec 12, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:

...

Digital broadcast is great, no doubt about that, and the benefits are boundless. But let us not be elitist in the way we conduct the exercise.

You can free the airwaves, and create thousands of digital channels and jobs, but if I in Kibera and Mathare, I cannot afford to buy a setbox in the next year, I will be forced to use by TVbox as a stool.

Let those with money migrate, and let the poor enjoy the poor quality analog signal in peace until set boxes are dirt cheap.

On the other hand, to reach a consensus, give us cheap subsidized digital set boxes, say at 500bob, marked GoK, and give us adequate time to buy them.

Remember, 2000bob is my dinner for a month.

You switched off my phone, which I bought with hard earned cash, then you switch of my TV! Next you will switch of my radio, then ...

On 12/12/2012, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:

...

Listers, Consumer Federation of Kenya (COFEK) has gone to court to stop the planned Digital Switchover in Nairobi at the end of this month. This is most unfortunate considering the fact that the current analogue broadcast has been the most discriminating. Majority of Kenyans have not seen the level of communication that Digital offers (this is what the constitution demands). In the new platform we have seen more vernacular channels delivering news in a language that people understand and relate to. It therefore surprises me when an organization such as COFEK moves to court to protect an elitist broadcast platform.

Further every one new channel creates more than thirty new jobs. There are more than one hundred and fifty new applications awaiting clearance to start digital broadcast. Twenty of these are already on air. If we get two hundred new broadcasters, we shall have achieved our quest for having a pluralistic and diversified broadcast environment. In whose interest is COFEK advancing the agenda of maintaining monopolistic practices in Kenyan Media? Does COFEK really understands the seriousness of unemployment in Kenya?

The cost of not migrating is far too great than biting the bullet now and enable frequency spectrum to be used in more productive and inclusive manner. The benefits of mobile operators moving from 2G to 3G are glaring. We need to scale up to 4G and create a robust last mile that will reduce the rural urban digital divide; that will create an enabling playing field when we start delivering new local content to schools country-wide.

Most of the world has migrated and they fully understand why we need to free up spectrum. EAC member states agreed on the December 31st deadline and Tanzania for example has committed itself to this agreed deadline despite not having a completed the national roll-out of the digital signal. In Kenya we have adopted a phased plan starting from Nairobi. Technology changes every six months and Kenya must remain at the technological edge in order to remain the true hub of Africa. We seem to be exercising freedom without any responsibility.

Ndemo.

...

Hi,

This is where we are going wrong, the digital migration has nothing to do with digital TV sets its about how the signal will be transmitted, please try and see the bigger picture here.

When we moved from analogue internet connectivity where you needed a modem to the digital transmission where you needed a DTU/ADSL/Dongle why didn't you please with the government to stop the importation of Pentium processor based computers or 14" monitors or AT keyboards so that users could transition? If you remember the ISPs never even gave us a transition period and some never even implemented analogue connectivity.

This is the same case with the digital TV migration, you do not need a digital TV to benefit from the new method of transmission all that you are changing is the equivalent of your analogue modem with a digital receiver and nothing more, also remember that this transition is a world wide project and it would be foolhardy to try and stop the oncoming train.

As Kenyans, we have proven time and time again that we are resilient and innovative, we turned off "fake" phones and on the following day they where getting reactivated thanks to the power of google, turn off the analogue signal tomorrow and we shall have 500/- decoders available for sale along the streets of Nairobi, keep postponing the switchoff and there will be no meaning uptake of the digital devices, have you registered for election yet?

All this noise from the entrenched media houses that we are propagating has nothing to do with if Kenyans with black and white TVs can afford to buy the decoder but more on trying to delay the shift of broadcasting power to a more open platform, so before you come to the defense of Linus and his ilk find out whose agenda you are promoting, instead of coming forward and responding to the discussion going on here of which I am sure they are listening, they send mercenaries .

Dr. Ndemo, I again say kudos and tell you keep the course and do what is right for the Nation and avoid being distracted by those with selfish agendas, deliver on this and Konza has a better chance of seeing the light of day.

Regards

Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya

Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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Dear list I read this thread and all i see is the "the cart before the horse". I believe Mr gitahi was referring to affordability rather compatibility and adaptability. @Robert, don't you think Kenyans should be given enough time to migrate rather than have a paradigm shift in tech use. I think that we should ban the importation of analog TV as somebody suggested earlier then will have a gradual change till 2015 Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet

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Hi Mr. Mutoro, I do feel you on the issue of the consumer unfortunately you sound like an advocate for big and entrenched business, a situation you might not even be aware of, just like a soldier who goes to war without understanding the underlying issues of the war/battle. The issue here is not about 1G or 10G it is about leveling the broadcast plain field so as to meet the basic human rights enshrined in the new constitution such as the freedom for me to watch the news in my mother tongue or to watch news content that is relevant to me and not be held hostage watching a polo item. You might love soccer but I love ajua so why force me to watch what I do not want.  With 120 channels airing I will definitely have a better opportunity of watching what I need, so please keep in mind when you are responding to this post, if you dare, that the discussion on the table is not about internet but about giving me the consumer greater choice. As an advocate for the consumer your mandate is to make sure that we are provided with services in an equitable manner, on the issue of digital migration the current providers have been depriving consumers of the freedom of choice, today we are no better off than the early days of state run media and what you are advocating is for the status quo to be maintained. Today all stations air news at the same time which denies me, the consumer, with the basic human right of watching the news at my convenience or comparing the content presented by the various stations, allowing the current media houses to get additional channels for cheaper than their current transmission power bills will mean that they can offer news reruns at different times. Today COFEK is unable to run consumer awareness programs on radio & TV because of the exorbitant costs an issue that will promptly be remedied once we holistically embrace digital broadcast, COFEK will be able to get their own channels for a fraction of your current advertising budget that you can then use to provide an alternative to the consumers.  Your lower operating cost and vast reach will mean that small scale manufacturers will be able to advertise their products therefore giving the consumer the freedom of choice. Be reminded that the battle you are currently waging is for the maintenance of the status quo where me, the consumer, is being held hostage to content provided by a few with vested interests, you are defending the establishment while standing on my back, the consumer, in truth you do not speak for me you speak for my enemies. Regards PS.  The typical Kenyan, you and I included, wait for the rain to start pouring before we start planting or buy an umbrella that is how we the consumers are and by you forcing us to to plan and prepare in advance is denying us our basic human rights as Kenyans, so please do not stop the rain from pouring as you will delay my planting.   Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Stephen Mutoro <smutoro@yahoo.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Kictanet Mail list <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2012, 21:20 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance Thanks for thinking for consumers in a more broad and realistic spectrum (including rural proletariats) beyond the minority but noisy middle to higher income Nairobi CBD/Upper Hill techies  who are obsessed about 4+G when millions of others can't access 2-G. There is nothing like "mass ignorance" or "mass intelligence" on a matter of human/consumer rights as ably articulated within Consumer Protection Act, 2012 (which took effect on December 13). Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke On Dec 12, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:

Digital broadcast is great, no doubt about that, and the benefits are boundless. But let us not be elitist in the way we conduct the exercise.

You can free the airwaves, and create thousands of digital channels and jobs, but if I in Kibera and Mathare, I cannot afford to buy a setbox in the next year, I will be forced to use by TVbox as a stool.

Let those with money migrate, and let the poor enjoy the poor quality analog signal in peace until set boxes are dirt cheap.

On the other hand, to reach a consensus, give us cheap subsidized digital set boxes, say at 500bob, marked GoK, and give us adequate time to buy them.

Remember, 2000bob is my dinner for a month.

You switched off my phone, which I bought with hard earned cash, then you switch of my TV! Next you will switch of my radio, then ...

On 12/12/2012, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:

...

Listers, Consumer Federation of Kenya (COFEK) has gone to court to stop the planned Digital Switchover in Nairobi at the end of this month.  This is most unfortunate considering the fact that the current analogue broadcast has been the most discriminating.  Majority of Kenyans have not seen the level of communication that Digital offers (this is what the constitution demands).  In the new platform we have seen more vernacular channels delivering news in a language that people understand and relate to.  It therefore surprises me when an organization such as COFEK moves to court to protect an elitist broadcast platform.

Further every one new channel creates more than thirty new jobs.  There are more than one hundred and fifty new applications awaiting clearance to start digital broadcast.  Twenty of these are already on air.  If we get two hundred new broadcasters, we shall have achieved our quest for having a pluralistic and diversified broadcast environment.  In whose interest is COFEK advancing the agenda of maintaining monopolistic practices in Kenyan Media? Does COFEK really understands the seriousness of unemployment in Kenya?

The cost of not migrating is far too great than biting the bullet now and enable frequency spectrum to be used in more productive and inclusive manner.  The benefits of mobile operators moving from 2G to 3G are glaring.  We need to scale up to 4G and create a robust last mile that will reduce the rural urban digital divide; that will create an enabling playing field when we start delivering new local content to schools country-wide.

Most of the world has migrated and they fully understand why we need to free up spectrum. EAC member states agreed on the December 31st deadline and Tanzania for example has committed itself to this agreed deadline despite not having a completed the national roll-out of the digital signal. In Kenya we have adopted a phased plan starting from Nairobi. Technology changes every six months and Kenya must remain at the technological edge in order to remain the true hub of Africa.  We seem to be exercising freedom without any responsibility.

Ndemo.

...

Hi,

This is where we are going wrong, the digital migration has nothing to do with digital TV sets its about how the signal will be transmitted, please try and see the bigger picture here.

When we moved from analogue internet connectivity where you needed a modem to the digital transmission where you needed a DTU/ADSL/Dongle why didn't you please with the government to stop the importation of Pentium processor based computers or 14" monitors or AT keyboards so that users could transition?  If you remember the ISPs never even gave us a transition period and some never even implemented analogue connectivity.

This is the same case with the digital TV migration, you do not need a digital TV to benefit from the new method of transmission all that you are changing is the equivalent of your analogue modem with a digital receiver and nothing more, also remember that this transition is a world wide project and it would be foolhardy to try and stop the oncoming train.

As Kenyans, we have proven time and time again that we are resilient and innovative, we turned off "fake" phones and on the following day they where getting reactivated thanks to the power of google, turn off the analogue signal tomorrow and we shall have 500/- decoders available for sale along the streets of Nairobi, keep postponing the switchoff and there will be no meaning uptake of the digital devices, have you registered for election yet?

All this noise from the entrenched media houses that we are propagating has nothing to do with if Kenyans with black and white TVs can afford to buy the decoder but more on trying to delay the shift of broadcasting power to a more open platform, so before you come to the defense of Linus and his ilk find out whose agenda you are promoting, instead of coming forward and responding to the discussion going on here of which I am sure they are listening, they send mercenaries .

Dr. Ndemo, I again say kudos and tell you keep the course and do what is right for the Nation and avoid being distracted by those with selfish agendas, deliver on this and Konza has a better chance of seeing the light of day.

Regards

Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya

Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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Dear list I read this thread and all i see is the "the cart before the horse". I believe Mr gitahi was referring to affordability rather compatibility and adaptability. @Robert, don't you think Kenyans should be given enough time to migrate rather than have a paradigm shift in tech use. I think that we should ban the importation of analog TV as somebody suggested earlier then will have a gradual change till 2015 Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet

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In the end, a frustrated government will enter into a deal with Huawei to mass produce and import low cost or subsidised FTA decoders, and Huawei will make millions in profit and Kenyans will have won the battle and lost the war. Somehow related, voter registration took 30 days. On day 30, huge queues were seen at centres at 8 pm, way past the 6 pm closing time for the exercise. For the other 29 days, clerks were idle, Facebooking and soaking in sun at the registration centres as few bothered registering. Meanwhile, I shall laminate this epic piece and hang it on a wall, to remind me that millions in the country have no access to 2G, despite 2G been the base of all GSM networks.

Thanks for thinking for consumers in a more broad and realistic spectrum (including rural proletariats) beyond the minority but noisy middle to higher income Nairobi CBD/Upper Hill techies who are obsessed about 4+G when millions of others can't access 2-G. There is nothing like "mass ignorance" or "mass intelligence" on a matter of human/consumer rights as ably articulated within Consumer Protection Act, 2012 (which took effect on December 13).

Hi Kivuva, Please note that for the government to subsidize the STBs they will need money which they will raise through taxes which means that at the end the same people who did not have the money to buy the unsubsidized decoders will pay through additional taxes, therefore which is the lesser evil? Regards   Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Kictanet Mail list <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, 20 December 2012, 12:16 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance Round1. The bell rings. The court has stopped the switch over pending hearing and determination of the case. When we switched to 2G, 3G, and future LTE, did we force all mobile users to migrate to high end phones? Did we switch off mulika mwizis? If the government cannot subsidize the set boxes, give Kenyans ample time save for the gadgets. At the pace some people at CCK and the ministry are moving, I would not be surprised to learn they have tonnes of containers of setboxes at Kilindini waiting to pounce on poor man's pockets. On 20/12/2012, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:

In the end, a frustrated government will enter into a deal with Huawei to mass produce and import low cost or subsidised FTA decoders, and Huawei will make millions in profit and Kenyans will have won the battle and lost the war.

Somehow related, voter registration took 30 days. On day 30, huge queues were seen at centres at  8 pm, way past the 6 pm closing time for the exercise. For the other 29 days, clerks were idle, Facebooking and soaking in sun at the registration centres as few bothered registering.

Meanwhile, I shall laminate this epic piece and hang it on a wall, to remind me that millions in the country have no access to 2G, despite 2G been the base of all GSM networks.

...

Thanks for thinking for consumers in a more broad and realistic spectrum (including rural proletariats) beyond the minority but noisy middle to higher income Nairobi CBD/Upper Hill techies  who are obsessed about 4+G when millions of others can't access 2-G. There is nothing like "mass ignorance" or "mass intelligence" on a matter of human/consumer rights as ably articulated within Consumer Protection Act, 2012 (which took effect on December 13).

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We really can't all be expected to gravitate towards the lowest common denominator so everyone can be happy. Consumers willing and able to buy set top boxes have rights too, so do investors in the technologies to deliver digital tv and other infrastructure. Technical progress will happen, we are not isolated ({digression} this goes for any service provider not in tune with ipv6 too) these transitions are better handled alongside the global migrations, it is easier, cheaper and allow us to be a part of the change and not guys forced to it later because suddenly there is no analog content, at which point we/they will still complain. Jgitau Sent from my iPad On 20 Dec 2012, at 22:38, "Song, Stephen" <stephen.song@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Robert,

Your argument would hold true if everyone paid the same taxes or if all taxes came from the same source. Would it not be reasonable to subsidise the STBs through revenue earned from the auction of the mobile spectrum that is freed up as a result? If the mobile operators are benefiting from the freed spectrum, this seems like a reasonable quid pro quo.

-Steve Song

On 20 December 2012 12:04, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

...

Hi Kivuva,

Please note that for the government to subsidize the STBs they will need money which they will raise through taxes which means that at the end the same people who did not have the money to buy the unsubsidized decoders will pay through additional taxes, therefore which is the lesser evil?

Regards

Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya

Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 From: Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com>

To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Kictanet Mail list <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, 20 December 2012, 12:16

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Round1. The bell rings. The court has stopped the switch over pending hearing and determination of the case.

When we switched to 2G, 3G, and future LTE, did we force all mobile users to migrate to high end phones? Did we switch off mulika mwizis?

If the government cannot subsidize the set boxes, give Kenyans ample time save for the gadgets.

At the pace some people at CCK and the ministry are moving, I would not be surprised to learn they have tonnes of containers of setboxes at Kilindini waiting to pounce on poor man's pockets.

On 20/12/2012, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:

...

In the end, a frustrated government will enter into a deal with Huawei to mass produce and import low cost or subsidised FTA decoders, and Huawei will make millions in profit and Kenyans will have won the battle and lost the war.

Somehow related, voter registration took 30 days. On day 30, huge queues were seen at centres at 8 pm, way past the 6 pm closing time for the exercise. For the other 29 days, clerks were idle, Facebooking and soaking in sun at the registration centres as few bothered registering.

Meanwhile, I shall laminate this epic piece and hang it on a wall, to remind me that millions in the country have no access to 2G, despite 2G been the base of all GSM networks.

...

Thanks for thinking for consumers in a more broad and realistic spectrum (including rural proletariats) beyond the minority but noisy middle to higher income Nairobi CBD/Upper Hill techies who are obsessed about 4+G when millions of others can't access 2-G. There is nothing like "mass ignorance" or "mass intelligence" on a matter of human/consumer rights as ably articulated within Consumer Protection Act, 2012 (which took effect on December 13).

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It seems the GoK is bowing to pressure and going towards the direction of subsidized the set boxes. Dennis, you should not give the government such ideas. They are on this list. Your email should have read "in the end, a frustrated government will enter into a multi-billion contract with University of Nairobi and JKUAT to mass produce low cost subsidized FTA decoders, and Kenyans would have won the battle, won the war, created thousands of employment, and tilted the balance of trade". I have been a fun of Dr. Ndemo's thesis for long, but this time round, he's gone off-course. If Dr. Ndemo was genuine and was playing for the best interest of Kenya, this is the path he should have advised the government to take. We still have time to be producers, till 2015. The revenue generated from such ventures would even fund the several projects the government is running like JKIA expansion, power stations, roads, e.t.c. I have had the privilege of touring several Chinese manufacturing companies, and I can assure you these factories littering our country with fake gadgets are not grand, and the initial capital is just several millions. Fellow Kenyans, let me give you unsolicited advice. Seeking foreign help to build roads, bridges, airports, harbours, and buildings is a sign of mental retardation, yet we have perfected the art. Thank you @song.stephen, we at BoP don't even know if we pay taxes. Whenever major infrastructure projects are being undertaken, we see EU, World Bank, USAID, DFID, e.t.c. Regards On 20/12/2012, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:

In the end, a frustrated government will enter into a deal with Huawei to mass produce and import low cost or subsidised FTA decoders, and Huawei will make millions in profit and Kenyans will have won the battle and lost the war.

Somehow related, voter registration took 30 days. On day 30, huge queues were seen at centres at 8 pm, way past the 6 pm closing time for the exercise. For the other 29 days, clerks were idle, Facebooking and soaking in sun at the registration centres as few bothered registering.

Meanwhile, I shall laminate this epic piece and hang it on a wall, to remind me that millions in the country have no access to 2G, despite 2G been the base of all GSM networks.

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Thanks for thinking for consumers in a more broad and realistic spectrum (including rural proletariats) beyond the minority but noisy middle to higher income Nairobi CBD/Upper Hill techies who are obsessed about 4+G when millions of others can't access 2-G. There is nothing like "mass ignorance" or "mass intelligence" on a matter of human/consumer rights as ably articulated within Consumer Protection Act, 2012 (which took effect on December 13).

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Stephen, I wanted to stay out of this till the ruling in court but I cannot keep quiet when you tell the whole world lies on mobile penetration in Kenya. Virtually every adult Kenyan has access to mobile in 2G. The fastest growing market is broadband because of the growing needs by the poor to get their produce to market or get the best pricing. This is what the many applications that are being developed in Kenya will do. Rural schools need the broadband most since education too is going e. While mobile coverage in Kenya is at 90% (mostly 2G coverage), land mass coverage stands at 40% with 80% mobile penetration. Mpesa is not for the rich like Mutoro but the poor and is accessible to 90% of the poor. The need to migrate to 4G is critical in planning our broadband needs in the next one year. For us to meet the projected demand we must get to the last mile. This means that getting to the poor since mot of the rich have fibre connevtivity to their homes. I take great exception with your statements. My Key Performance Index (KPI)is how many people in Kenya rich and poor have access to internet. This is significantly different from your KPI of counting how many cases you have taken to court over the perceived infringement of consumer rights. While you can criticise me as a public servant, I am not able to even know your funding sources and the motives for funding. I do not question but this is what Kenyans are talking in low tones. What we can do for now is to rephrase John F. Kennedy's quote to read "ask not what the poor may be wanting; ask what you have done to remove poverty". Going to court purpoting to represent the poor is a bouguasie cover up. Let us stand up for the poor and help eliminate poverty by teaching them to navigate the high seas of technology and fish for their sustainable living. I am in India for some family medical case but I must report that Delhi whose per capita income is lower than Nairobi, has fully migrated to Digital. The poor are now enjoying watching TV in the languages they understand (this is a requirement in our constitution). Three hundred new channels have come up including one helping consumers understand what is in the market and how it compares with other competitors. Perhaps you need to upgrade your approach to consumerism. Only technology will help be more effective. Merry Christmas and a Prosperous New Year my brother. Ndemo.

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Kivuva, I am really having a terrible time with internet connectivity here in India. It cost more than Ksh. 2,000 per an hour for a 512K link. By the time I read a two page attachment, the time is over with no warning. I want to thank you for reviving the local manufacturing issue. As Mwale states, this where I started anticipating migration by 2012. We could not get support in spite of Dr. Gachigi's effort to develop a prototype. I personally went round talking to our industrialists. They wanted numbers. I could not provide attractive numbers since this is a stop gap measure. Instead I went round talking how we can leverage 3D printing to start elevating Jua Kali Industries into local manufacturing without necessarily getting into the economies of scale trap. The good news is that Dr. Gachigi is still determined. Just recently I wrote that he needed Ksh. 15 million to start local manufacturing of hand sets. I went further and talked to two chip makers who have gracefully accepted to give us their mobile handset platform. We have no investors (risk takers) yet but it is going to work and we propel our country into light electronic manufacturing. It needs the commitment of Kenyans to buy local. Every 10 vehicles I count here in India, seven are local. Actually even the foreign brands are manufactured locally. This not a government problem but a serious cultural dilemma. Ndemo.

Dear Dr. Ndemo, wishing you a safe flight back home, and a quick recovery to your loved one.

Merry Christmas and a happy new year to you too

On 21/12/2012, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:

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Stephen, I wanted to stay out of this till the ruling in court but I cannot keep quiet when you tell the whole world lies on mobile penetration in Kenya. Virtually every adult Kenyan has access to mobile in 2G. The fastest growing market is broadband because of the growing needs by the poor to get their produce to market or get the best pricing. This is what the many applications that are being developed in Kenya will do. Rural schools need the broadband most since education too is going e. While mobile coverage in Kenya is at 90% (mostly 2G coverage), land mass coverage stands at 40% with 80% mobile penetration. Mpesa is not for the rich like Mutoro but the poor and is accessible to 90% of the poor.

The need to migrate to 4G is critical in planning our broadband needs in the next one year. For us to meet the projected demand we must get to the last mile. This means that getting to the poor since mot of the rich have fibre connevtivity to their homes.

I take great exception with your statements. My Key Performance Index (KPI)is how many people in Kenya rich and poor have access to internet. This is significantly different from your KPI of counting how many cases you have taken to court over the perceived infringement of consumer rights. While you can criticise me as a public servant, I am not able to even know your funding sources and the motives for funding. I do not question but this is what Kenyans are talking in low tones.

What we can do for now is to rephrase John F. Kennedy's quote to read "ask not what the poor may be wanting; ask what you have done to remove poverty". Going to court purpoting to represent the poor is a bouguasie cover up. Let us stand up for the poor and help eliminate poverty by teaching them to navigate the high seas of technology and fish for their sustainable living.

I am in India for some family medical case but I must report that Delhi whose per capita income is lower than Nairobi, has fully migrated to Digital. The poor are now enjoying watching TV in the languages they understand (this is a requirement in our constitution). Three hundred new channels have come up including one helping consumers understand what is in the market and how it compares with other competitors. Perhaps you need to upgrade your approach to consumerism. Only technology will help be more effective.

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous New Year my brother.

Ndemo.

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If we need to focus on manufacturing, shouldn't we then, be building more polytechniques and less universities? http://www.africanexecutive.com/modules/magazine/articles.php?article=6985&magazine=418last section of the article. Vocational training is needed. On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:

Thank you Dr. Ndemo for spotting the elephant in the room.

Mahatma Gandhi did his country good for preaching self sustainability. With proper implementation of brand Kenya initiative, we might use more local products and follow India's footsteps. Just remember, "the cowards never started, the weak died in the way, only the strong arrived. They were the pioneers."

Francois-Marie Arouet de Voltaire Said, "No problem can withstand the assault of sustained thinking." I think Daktari you are thinking in the right direction.

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Kivuva, I am really having a terrible time with internet connectivity here in India. It cost more than Ksh. 2,000 per an hour for a 512K link. By the time I read a two page attachment, the time is over with no warning.

I want to thank you for reviving the local manufacturing issue. As Mwale states, this where I started anticipating migration by 2012. We could not get support in spite of Dr. Gachigi's effort to develop a prototype. I personally went round talking to our industrialists. They wanted numbers. I could not provide attractive numbers since this is a stop gap measure. Instead I went round talking how we can leverage 3D printing to start elevating Jua Kali Industries into local manufacturing without necessarily getting into the economies of scale trap.

The good news is that Dr. Gachigi is still determined. Just recently I wrote that he needed Ksh. 15 million to start local manufacturing of hand sets. I went further and talked to two chip makers who have gracefully accepted to give us their mobile handset platform. We have no investors (risk takers) yet but it is going to work and we propel our country into light electronic manufacturing. It needs the commitment of Kenyans to buy local. Every 10 vehicles I count here in India, seven are local. Actually even the foreign brands are manufactured locally. This not a government problem but a serious cultural dilemma.

Ndemo.

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Dear Dr. Ndemo, wishing you a safe flight back home, and a quick recovery to your loved one.

Merry Christmas and a happy new year to you too

On 21/12/2012, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:

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Stephen, I wanted to stay out of this till the ruling in court but I cannot keep quiet when you tell the whole world lies on mobile penetration in Kenya. Virtually every adult Kenyan has access to mobile in 2G. The fastest growing market is broadband because of the growing needs by the poor to get their produce to market or get the best pricing. This is what the many applications that are being developed in Kenya will do. Rural schools need the broadband most since education too is going e. While mobile coverage in Kenya is at 90% (mostly 2G coverage), land mass coverage stands at 40% with 80% mobile penetration. Mpesa is not for the rich like Mutoro but the poor and is accessible to 90% of the poor.

The need to migrate to 4G is critical in planning our broadband needs in the next one year. For us to meet the projected demand we must get to the last mile. This means that getting to the poor since mot of the rich have fibre connevtivity to their homes.

I take great exception with your statements. My Key Performance Index (KPI)is how many people in Kenya rich and poor have access to internet. This is significantly different from your KPI of counting how many cases you have taken to court over the perceived infringement of consumer rights. While you can criticise me as a public servant, I am not able to even know your funding sources and the motives for funding. I do not question but this is what Kenyans are talking in low tones.

What we can do for now is to rephrase John F. Kennedy's quote to read "ask not what the poor may be wanting; ask what you have done to remove poverty". Going to court purpoting to represent the poor is a bouguasie cover up. Let us stand up for the poor and help eliminate poverty by teaching them to navigate the high seas of technology and fish for

On 24/12/2012, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: their

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sustainable living.

I am in India for some family medical case but I must report that Delhi whose per capita income is lower than Nairobi, has fully migrated to Digital. The poor are now enjoying watching TV in the languages they understand (this is a requirement in our constitution). Three hundred new channels have come up including one helping consumers understand what is in the market and how it compares with other competitors. Perhaps you need to upgrade your approach to consumerism. Only technology will help be more effective.

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous New Year my brother.

Ndemo.

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Thank you Dr. Ndemo for spotting the elephant in the room.

Mahatma Gandhi did his country good for preaching self sustainability. With proper implementation of brand Kenya initiative, we might use more local products and follow India's footsteps. Just remember, "the cowards never started, the weak died in the way, only the strong arrived. They were the pioneers."

Francois-Marie Arouet de Voltaire Said, "No problem can withstand the assault of sustained thinking." I think Daktari you are thinking in the right direction.

On 24/12/2012, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:

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Kivuva, I am really having a terrible time with internet connectivity here in India. It cost more than Ksh. 2,000 per an hour for a 512K link. By the time I read a two page attachment, the time is over with no warning.

I want to thank you for reviving the local manufacturing issue. As Mwale states, this where I started anticipating migration by 2012. We could not get support in spite of Dr. Gachigi's effort to develop a prototype. I personally went round talking to our industrialists. They wanted numbers. I could not provide attractive numbers since this is a stop gap measure. Instead I went round talking how we can leverage 3D printing to start elevating Jua Kali Industries into local manufacturing without necessarily getting into the economies of scale trap.

The good news is that Dr. Gachigi is still determined. Just recently I wrote that he needed Ksh. 15 million to start local manufacturing of hand sets. I went further and talked to two chip makers who have gracefully accepted to give us their mobile handset platform. We have no investors (risk takers) yet but it is going to work and we propel our country into light electronic manufacturing. It needs the commitment of Kenyans to buy local. Every 10 vehicles I count here in India, seven are local. Actually even the foreign brands are manufactured locally. This not a government problem but a serious cultural dilemma.

Ndemo.

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Dear Dr. Ndemo, wishing you a safe flight back home, and a quick recovery to your loved one.

Merry Christmas and a happy new year to you too

On 21/12/2012, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:

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> Stephen, > I wanted to stay out of this till the ruling in court but I cannot keep > quiet when you tell the whole world lies on mobile penetration in Kenya. > Virtually every adult Kenyan has access to mobile in 2G. The fastest > growing market is broadband because of the growing needs by the poor to > get their produce to market or get the best pricing. This is what the > many applications that are being developed in Kenya will do. Rural > schools need the broadband most since education too is going e. While > mobile coverage in Kenya is at 90% (mostly 2G coverage), land mass > coverage stands at 40% with 80% mobile penetration. Mpesa is not for > the > rich like Mutoro but the poor and is accessible to 90% of the poor. > > > The need to migrate to 4G is critical in planning our broadband needs in > the next one year. For us to meet the projected demand we must get to > the > last mile. This means that getting to the poor since mot of the rich > have > fibre connevtivity to their homes. > > > I take great exception with your statements. My Key Performance Index > (KPI)is how many people in Kenya rich and poor have access to internet. > This is significantly different from your KPI of counting how many >>>> cases > you have taken to court over the perceived infringement of consumer > rights. While you can criticise me as a public servant, I am not able to > even know your funding sources and the motives for funding. I do not > question but this is what Kenyans are talking in low tones. > > What we can do for now is to rephrase John F. Kennedy's quote to read > "ask > not what the poor may be wanting; ask what you have done to remove > poverty". Going to court purpoting to represent the poor is a bouguasie > cover up. Let us stand up for the poor and help eliminate poverty by > teaching them to navigate the high seas of technology and fish for >>>>

Finally I am glad this subject has come up. For a while now I have watched with horror and utter amazement at the gradual obliteration of polytechnics as they migrate to offer degree courses. These institutions were the foundation of manufacturing. Today you can hardly find a graduate who can open up an electronic device to repair it or design a circuit chip. Majority of the workforce being churned out of the universities are "white collar" managers but there is no one to manage at the factories. Kenya must seriously think about changing the current education system to return the polytechnics or build new ones if we are to achieve the manufacturing goals of an industrialized country. Regards Sammy Buruchara From: Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> Date: Monday, December 24, 2012 6:15 PM To: <buruchara@mac.com> Cc: Kictanet Mail list <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and local manufacturing If we need to focus on manufacturing, shouldn't we then, be building more polytechniques and less universities? http://www.africanexecutive.com/modules/magazine/articles.php?article=6985&m agazine=418 last section of the article. Vocational training is needed. On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote: their

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> sustainable living. > > I am in India for some family medical case but I must report that Delhi > whose per capita income is lower than Nairobi, has fully migrated to > Digital. The poor are now enjoying watching TV in the languages they > understand (this is a requirement in our constitution). Three hundred > new > channels have come up including one helping consumers understand what is > in the market and how it compares with other competitors. Perhaps you > need to upgrade your approach to consumerism. Only technology will help > be more effective. > > Merry Christmas and a Prosperous New Year my brother. > > > Ndemo. > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kivuva%40transworldaf rica.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for > people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and > development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and > bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, > do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >

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Dr. Ndemo, Amen!!! Amen!!! I wish this can be an Op Ed in our daily papers. Education of the mind, and I mean the mindset is what we in Kenya are starving of. Kenyans need to be educated on how to think bigger, appreciate the small gains but not be obscured by them. We must be able to think in abstract terms. That's how inventions are made, apps are written, content is generated etc. This is one the most precious assets the developed world has passed on from generation over and over. Happy and Safe Holidays everyone! Mwaniki Njoroge, PMP CEO, EDF Mwaniki@edf.co.ke Sent from my iPhone On Dec 25, 2012, at 3:27 AM, bitange@jambo.co.ke wrote:

Kivuva, This time let us not stop here. Somehow let us make this a campaign issue. We need someone to start talking about educational reforms. I do not mean changing the system but trying inclusiveness and find a solution to the majority who do not get admission to college.

For a start, we must have a polytechnic in every county to offer hands on training in many thematic areas. It is absurd that we have unemployed Kenyans when we hire technicians to repair an X-ray machine. We have only four trained per-fusionists in a country of 40 million. Even in nursing we only focus in very few areas. In Engineering the situation is pathetic forty nine years after independence. Numerical Machining Complex lies virtually idle as we keep on importing every item the machine can make.

Our greatest dilemma is in dealing with the supply-side of labour, without thinking about the the demand-side of it. This is the only thing we want our politicians to remember to avoid past mistakes. Let me elaborate. After Independence Kenya had the best educational system which absorbed many high school graduates into middle level colleges such as the Kenya Science Teachers College, Egerton and all other agricultural institutes, Medical training institutions, water engineering in South C, Utalii College etc. We never had issues to do with food security as agricultural extension officers dotted the country. The surplus of our labour went to neighbouring countries.

Botswana's beef industry was built by Kenyans. The road networks in Swaziland was done by Kenyans. Our Utalii college graduates are in every hotel in Dubai today. All these countries have done well. Take for example, Dubai. By comparison, Dubai receives seven million visitors a month. Why? because they have balanced demand and supply for labour by building a world class transport hub, building world class hotels and ensured security. To do this they had to free their mind from a minimalist approach to broad thinking. In Kenya we build a four lane Highway we call it a super highway and almost want to take a break to admire it. There is no drive replicate the same throughout the country.

In Tourism we failed and that is why our labour is glob trotting in search of greener pastures and maintain a competitive advantage for their adopted countries. Kenya needs more than 200 new hotels and superior airports in order to scale up our tourism to levels where we can become a major player. I mean like receiving 2 million visitors a month. We cannot attain this with our selfish approach to development. Where individuals build hopeless structures they call hotels instead of aggregating resources with others to build proper and aesthetically built hotels that can attract better returns (in other words we have the resources but because we have not been schooled to embrace aesthetics, we keep on wasting our resources and getting poorer even those who should not be). If you want to know more visit our peri urban centers like (Ngong, Kiserian, Kiambu, Kitengela, Ruiru, Thika) and see the amount waste that has gone into these structures. We have done the same since independence building shops in market center that are never put into any economic use. In my earlier studies, we have put in excess of $15 billion into such waste and people ask why Africans get poorer as they get older.

In the proposed education reforms we must cover such courses such as investments formats, resource mobilization, entrepreneurship, patriotism etc. This is what Kivuva referred to in Mahatma Gandhi. Indians did not revere Gandhi for his non violence call but because he successfully managed to decolonize the minds of Indians by asking them to burn any imported clothes and embracing their own; in leaning his people to salt mines to make their own salt. In Kenya only Ngugi wa Thiongo tried but failed because he was too academic in approach. We needed simpler methods of decolonizing the mind. To date we continue to create a rift among our people by allowing two educational systems, that is, the Kenyan and the British. When shall we begin to build a harmonious Nation? Tell your preferred candidate to make this a priority.

Ndemo.

...

Thank you Dr. Ndemo for spotting the elephant in the room.

Mahatma Gandhi did his country good for preaching self sustainability. With proper implementation of brand Kenya initiative, we might use more local products and follow India's footsteps. Just remember, "the cowards never started, the weak died in the way, only the strong arrived. They were the pioneers."

Francois-Marie Arouet de Voltaire Said, "No problem can withstand the assault of sustained thinking." I think Daktari you are thinking in the right direction.

On 24/12/2012, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:

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Kivuva, I am really having a terrible time with internet connectivity here in India. It cost more than Ksh. 2,000 per an hour for a 512K link. By the time I read a two page attachment, the time is over with no warning.

I want to thank you for reviving the local manufacturing issue. As Mwale states, this where I started anticipating migration by 2012. We could not get support in spite of Dr. Gachigi's effort to develop a prototype. I personally went round talking to our industrialists. They wanted numbers. I could not provide attractive numbers since this is a stop gap measure. Instead I went round talking how we can leverage 3D printing to start elevating Jua Kali Industries into local manufacturing without necessarily getting into the economies of scale trap.

The good news is that Dr. Gachigi is still determined. Just recently I wrote that he needed Ksh. 15 million to start local manufacturing of hand sets. I went further and talked to two chip makers who have gracefully accepted to give us their mobile handset platform. We have no investors (risk takers) yet but it is going to work and we propel our country into light electronic manufacturing. It needs the commitment of Kenyans to buy local. Every 10 vehicles I count here in India, seven are local. Actually even the foreign brands are manufactured locally. This not a government problem but a serious cultural dilemma.

Ndemo.

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Dear Dr. Ndemo, wishing you a safe flight back home, and a quick recovery to your loved one.

Merry Christmas and a happy new year to you too

On 21/12/2012, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:

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Stephen, I wanted to stay out of this till the ruling in court but I cannot keep quiet when you tell the whole world lies on mobile penetration in Kenya. Virtually every adult Kenyan has access to mobile in 2G. The fastest growing market is broadband because of the growing needs by the poor to get their produce to market or get the best pricing. This is what the many applications that are being developed in Kenya will do. Rural schools need the broadband most since education too is going e. While mobile coverage in Kenya is at 90% (mostly 2G coverage), land mass coverage stands at 40% with 80% mobile penetration. Mpesa is not for the rich like Mutoro but the poor and is accessible to 90% of the poor.

The need to migrate to 4G is critical in planning our broadband needs in the next one year. For us to meet the projected demand we must get to the last mile. This means that getting to the poor since mot of the rich have fibre connevtivity to their homes.

I take great exception with your statements. My Key Performance Index (KPI)is how many people in Kenya rich and poor have access to internet. This is significantly different from your KPI of counting how many cases you have taken to court over the perceived infringement of consumer rights. While you can criticise me as a public servant, I am not able to even know your funding sources and the motives for funding. I do not question but this is what Kenyans are talking in low tones.

What we can do for now is to rephrase John F. Kennedy's quote to read "ask not what the poor may be wanting; ask what you have done to remove poverty". Going to court purpoting to represent the poor is a bouguasie cover up. Let us stand up for the poor and help eliminate poverty by teaching them to navigate the high seas of technology and fish for their sustainable living.

I am in India for some family medical case but I must report that Delhi whose per capita income is lower than Nairobi, has fully migrated to Digital. The poor are now enjoying watching TV in the languages they understand (this is a requirement in our constitution). Three hundred new channels have come up including one helping consumers understand what is in the market and how it compares with other competitors. Perhaps you need to upgrade your approach to consumerism. Only technology will help be more effective.

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous New Year my brother.

Ndemo.

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Maybe Bw. Mtoro should sue ITU at the Hague calling upon the world to stop http://www.itu.int/newsroom/press_releases/2006/11.html and force the US to reverse its now completed digital television migration, e.g.  http://www.examiner.com/article/comcast-takes-digital-upgrade-to-all-channel.... His outfit should definately receive global attention! Whatever that would be....   ________________________________ From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: ict.researcher@yahoo.com Cc: Kictanet Mail list <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance Stephen, I wanted to stay out of this till the ruling in court but I cannot keep quiet when you tell the whole world lies on mobile penetration in Kenya. Virtually every adult Kenyan has access to mobile in 2G.  The fastest growing market is broadband because of the growing needs by the poor to get their produce to market or get the best pricing.  This is what the many applications that are being developed in Kenya will do.  Rural schools need the broadband most since education too is going e. While mobile coverage in Kenya is at 90% (mostly 2G coverage), land mass coverage stands at 40% with 80% mobile penetration.  Mpesa is not for the rich like Mutoro but the poor and is accessible to 90% of the poor. The need to migrate to 4G is critical in planning our broadband needs in the next one year.  For us to meet the projected demand we must get to the last mile.  This means that getting to the poor since mot of the rich have fibre connevtivity to their homes. I take great exception with your statements.  My Key Performance Index (KPI)is how many people in Kenya rich and poor have access to internet. This is significantly different from your KPI of counting how many cases you have taken to court over the perceived infringement of consumer rights. While you can criticise me as a public servant, I am not able to even know your funding sources and the motives for funding.  I do not question but this is what Kenyans are talking in low tones. What we can do for now is to rephrase John F. Kennedy's quote to read "ask not what the poor may be wanting; ask what you have done to remove poverty".  Going to court purpoting to represent the poor is a bouguasie cover up.  Let us stand up for the poor and help eliminate poverty by teaching them to navigate the high seas of technology and fish for their sustainable living. I am in India for some family medical case but I must report that Delhi whose per capita income is lower than Nairobi, has fully migrated to Digital.  The poor are now enjoying watching TV in the languages they understand (this is a requirement in our constitution).  Three hundred new channels have come up including one helping consumers understand what is in the market and how it compares with other competitors.  Perhaps you need to upgrade your approach to consumerism.  Only technology will help be more effective. Merry Christmas and a Prosperous New Year my brother. Ndemo.

Kivuva, We shall be grossly be discriminating against those living in Kibera and Mathare if we do not give them last mile broadband. I visit these places practically every month and I know what I am talking about. Please find out by yourselves. There is much more broadband consumed in those places than in Lavington. We are deceiving ourselves in an attempt to represent the poor. My work is such that I know the needs of the people. We shall be making a far greater impact by freeing up the 700/800 Mhtz from broadcasters. I bet my life on this. Ndemo.

Thanks for thinking for consumers in a more broad and realistic spectrum (including rural proletariats) beyond the minority but noisy middle to higher income Nairobi CBD/Upper Hill techies who are obsessed about 4+G when millions of others can't access 2-G. There is nothing like "mass ignorance" or "mass intelligence" on a matter of human/consumer rights as ably articulated within Consumer Protection Act, 2012 (which took effect on December 13).

Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke

On Dec 12, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:

...

Digital broadcast is great, no doubt about that, and the benefits are boundless. But let us not be elitist in the way we conduct the exercise.

You can free the airwaves, and create thousands of digital channels and jobs, but if I in Kibera and Mathare, I cannot afford to buy a setbox in the next year, I will be forced to use by TVbox as a stool.

Let those with money migrate, and let the poor enjoy the poor quality analog signal in peace until set boxes are dirt cheap.

On the other hand, to reach a consensus, give us cheap subsidized digital set boxes, say at 500bob, marked GoK, and give us adequate time to buy them.

Remember, 2000bob is my dinner for a month.

You switched off my phone, which I bought with hard earned cash, then you switch of my TV! Next you will switch of my radio, then ...

On 12/12/2012, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:

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Listers, Consumer Federation of Kenya (COFEK) has gone to court to stop the planned Digital Switchover in Nairobi at the end of this month. This is most unfortunate considering the fact that the current analogue broadcast has been the most discriminating. Majority of Kenyans have not seen the level of communication that Digital offers (this is what the constitution demands). In the new platform we have seen more vernacular channels delivering news in a language that people understand and relate to. It therefore surprises me when an organization such as COFEK moves to court to protect an elitist broadcast platform.

Further every one new channel creates more than thirty new jobs. There are more than one hundred and fifty new applications awaiting clearance to start digital broadcast. Twenty of these are already on air. If we get two hundred new broadcasters, we shall have achieved our quest for having a pluralistic and diversified broadcast environment. In whose interest is COFEK advancing the agenda of maintaining monopolistic practices in Kenyan Media? Does COFEK really understands the seriousness of unemployment in Kenya?

The cost of not migrating is far too great than biting the bullet now and enable frequency spectrum to be used in more productive and inclusive manner. The benefits of mobile operators moving from 2G to 3G are glaring. We need to scale up to 4G and create a robust last mile that will reduce the rural urban digital divide; that will create an enabling playing field when we start delivering new local content to schools country-wide.

Most of the world has migrated and they fully understand why we need to free up spectrum. EAC member states agreed on the December 31st deadline and Tanzania for example has committed itself to this agreed deadline despite not having a completed the national roll-out of the digital signal. In Kenya we have adopted a phased plan starting from Nairobi. Technology changes every six months and Kenya must remain at the technological edge in order to remain the true hub of Africa. We seem to be exercising freedom without any responsibility.

Ndemo.

...

Hi,

This is where we are going wrong, the digital migration has nothing to do with digital TV sets its about how the signal will be transmitted, please try and see the bigger picture here.

When we moved from analogue internet connectivity where you needed a modem to the digital transmission where you needed a DTU/ADSL/Dongle why didn't you please with the government to stop the importation of Pentium processor based computers or 14" monitors or AT keyboards so that users could transition? If you remember the ISPs never even gave us a transition period and some never even implemented analogue connectivity.

This is the same case with the digital TV migration, you do not need a digital TV to benefit from the new method of transmission all that you are changing is the equivalent of your analogue modem with a digital receiver and nothing more, also remember that this transition is a world wide project and it would be foolhardy to try and stop the oncoming train.

As Kenyans, we have proven time and time again that we are resilient and innovative, we turned off "fake" phones and on the following day they where getting reactivated thanks to the power of google, turn off the analogue signal tomorrow and we shall have 500/- decoders available for sale along the streets of Nairobi, keep postponing the switchoff and there will be no meaning uptake of the digital devices, have you registered for election yet?

All this noise from the entrenched media houses that we are propagating has nothing to do with if Kenyans with black and white TVs can afford to buy the decoder but more on trying to delay the shift of broadcasting power to a more open platform, so before you come to the defense of Linus and his ilk find out whose agenda you are promoting, instead of coming forward and responding to the discussion going on here of which I am sure they are listening, they send mercenaries .

Dr. Ndemo, I again say kudos and tell you keep the course and do what is right for the Nation and avoid being distracted by those with selfish agendas, deliver on this and Konza has a better chance of seeing the light of day.

Regards

Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya

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Dear list I read this thread and all i see is the "the cart before the horse". I believe Mr gitahi was referring to affordability rather compatibility and adaptability. @Robert, don't you think Kenyans should be given enough time to migrate rather than have a paradigm shift in tech use. I think that we should ban the importation of analog TV as somebody suggested earlier then will have a gradual change till 2015 Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet

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IN SUMMARY - The five members states had agreed to go digital three years ahead of global schedule to ensure that they have ample time to fix any unforeseen glitches and enable them comply with 2015 global deadline. - However, only Tanzania adhered to the deadline by moving Dar-es-Salaam to the new system. - Policy makers say the move will give Tanzania an advantage in correcting technical hurdles that the country may encounter along the way as it migrates other part of the country. A survey by *Xinhua* in Tanzania reveals that five out of 20 people they interviewed in Arusha cannot access their favourite free-to- air channels since the dealers of the gadgets mostly pay television providers who are asking for a monthly fee Tsh9000(Sh489). Only five out of 20 people interviewed in Dar es Salaam by *Xinhua* said they have access to television broadcasts. “We only have useless boxes in our living rooms for we cannot access any stations without a decoder,” George Kaniki of Mbezi Louis, Dar es Salaam, said in an interview. According to a programme by the Tanzania Communications Regulatory Authority (TCRA), regions set to follow in the switch- off will be Dodoma and Tanga, whose analogue signals will be deactivated by the end of this month. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Dar-offers-hard-lessons-on-switch-to-digi... On 11 January 2013 13:26, Henry Maina <henry@article19.org> wrote:

Dear All,

Find some quick and raw thoughts after the decision of the Court today on the phased digital switchover.

ARTICLE 19 believes in the promise of digital switchover but also clearly understands that we must develop proper measures to mitigate any results of the transition that may undermine diversity, openness and access.

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________________________________________ From: kictanet [kictanet-bounces+henry=article19.org@lists.kictanet.or.ke] on behalf of Stephen Mutoro [smutoro@yahoo.com] Sent: 19 December 2012 09:20 PM To: Henry Maina Cc: Kictanet Mail list Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance

Thanks for thinking for consumers in a more broad and realistic spectrum (including rural proletariats) beyond the minority but noisy middle to higher income Nairobi CBD/Upper Hill techies who are obsessed about 4+G when millions of others can't access 2-G. There is nothing like "mass ignorance" or "mass intelligence" on a matter of human/consumer rights as ably articulated within Consumer Protection Act, 2012 (which took effect on December 13).

Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke

On Dec 12, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:

...

Digital broadcast is great, no doubt about that, and the benefits are boundless. But let us not be elitist in the way we conduct the exercise.

You can free the airwaves, and create thousands of digital channels and jobs, but if I in Kibera and Mathare, I cannot afford to buy a setbox in the next year, I will be forced to use by TVbox as a stool.

Let those with money migrate, and let the poor enjoy the poor quality analog signal in peace until set boxes are dirt cheap.

On the other hand, to reach a consensus, give us cheap subsidized digital set boxes, say at 500bob, marked GoK, and give us adequate time to buy them.

Remember, 2000bob is my dinner for a month.

You switched off my phone, which I bought with hard earned cash, then you switch of my TV! Next you will switch of my radio, then ...

...

Listers, Consumer Federation of Kenya (COFEK) has gone to court to stop the

...

Digital Switchover in Nairobi at the end of this month. This is most unfortunate considering the fact that the current analogue broadcast has been the most discriminating. Majority of Kenyans have not seen the level of communication that Digital offers (this is what the constitution demands). In the new platform we have seen more vernacular channels delivering news in a language that people understand and relate to. It therefore surprises me when an organization such as COFEK moves to court to protect an elitist broadcast platform.

Further every one new channel creates more than thirty new jobs. There are more than one hundred and fifty new applications awaiting clearance to start digital broadcast. Twenty of these are already on air. If we get two hundred new broadcasters, we shall have achieved our quest for having a pluralistic and diversified broadcast environment. In whose interest is COFEK advancing the agenda of maintaining monopolistic practices in Kenyan Media? Does COFEK really understands the seriousness of unemployment in Kenya?

The cost of not migrating is far too great than biting the bullet now and enable frequency spectrum to be used in more productive and inclusive manner. The benefits of mobile operators moving from 2G to 3G are glaring. We need to scale up to 4G and create a robust last mile that will reduce the rural urban digital divide; that will create an enabling playing field when we start delivering new local content to schools country-wide.

Most of the world has migrated and they fully understand why we need to free up spectrum. EAC member states agreed on the December 31st deadline and Tanzania for example has committed itself to this agreed deadline despite not having a completed the national roll-out of the digital signal. In Kenya we have adopted a phased plan starting from Nairobi. Technology changes every six months and Kenya must remain at the technological edge in order to remain the true hub of Africa. We seem to be exercising freedom without any responsibility.

Ndemo.

...

Hi,

This is where we are going wrong, the digital migration has nothing to do with digital TV sets its about how the signal will be transmitted,

On 12/12/2012, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: planned please

...

...

try and see the bigger picture here.

When we moved from analogue internet connectivity where you needed a modem to the digital transmission where you needed a DTU/ADSL/Dongle why didn't you please with the government to stop the importation of Pentium processor based computers or 14" monitors or AT keyboards so that users could transition? If you remember the ISPs never even gave us a transition period and some never even implemented analogue connectivity.

This is the same case with the digital TV migration, you do not need a digital TV to benefit from the new method of transmission all that you are changing is the equivalent of your analogue modem with a digital receiver and nothing more, also remember that this transition is a world wide project and it would be foolhardy to try and stop the oncoming train.

As Kenyans, we have proven time and time again that we are resilient and innovative, we turned off "fake" phones and on the following day they where getting reactivated thanks to the power of google, turn off the analogue signal tomorrow and we shall have 500/- decoders available for sale along the streets of Nairobi, keep postponing the switchoff and there will be no meaning uptake of the digital devices, have you registered for election yet?

All this noise from the entrenched media houses that we are propagating has nothing to do with if Kenyans with black and white TVs can afford to buy the decoder but more on trying to delay the shift of broadcasting power to a more open platform, so before you come to the defense of Linus and his ilk find out whose agenda you are promoting, instead of coming forward and responding to the discussion going on here of which I am sure they are listening, they send mercenaries .

Dr. Ndemo, I again say kudos and tell you keep the course and do what is right for the Nation and avoid being distracted by those with selfish agendas, deliver on this and Konza has a better chance of seeing the light of day.

Regards

Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya

Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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Dear list I read this thread and all i see is the "the cart before the horse". I believe Mr gitahi was referring to affordability rather compatibility and adaptability. @Robert, don't you think Kenyans should be given enough time to migrate rather than have a paradigm shift in tech use. I think that we should ban the importation of analog TV as somebody suggested earlier then will have a gradual change till 2015 Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet

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I don't see the link between digital migration (to which Kenya is totally committed to), and industrialization (To which Tanzanians are lagging behind), unless Tanzanians are keen on local manufacturing, to which Kenya is a leader in the region. IN SUMMARY - The data prepared by the Kenya National Bureau of Statistics shows that Tanzania and the UK each accounted for Sh30 billion that Kenya exported to various destinations of the world by the end of September, narrowing Uganda’s lead of Sh44 billion. Tanzania looked set to start the year as the second largest destination for Kenyan goods after Uganda even as Chinese and Indian products flooded its market. Official data shows that Tanzania’s consumption of Kenya’s exports went up by 3.4 per cent at the end of third quarter of last year, catching up with the United Kingdom which has been second. It is only South Africa-— which due to its strong and efficient manufacturing base produces a wide range of products — that has penetrated and defended its market in Kenya over the years. “It is not possible for landlocked neighbours or even Tanzania to import raw materials, produce products already available in Kenya and transport them back here for sale,” said Mr Shah. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Tanzania-set-to-become-top-buyer-of-Kenya... On 11 January 2013 17:53, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Tanzania is definitely a progress nation that will definitely beat us to the industrialization finish line, now you understand why they are avoiding total market integration as this do not want regressive & litigious Kenyans going there to complicate a system in motion

Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya

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IN SUMMARY

- The five members states had agreed to go digital three years ahead of global schedule to ensure that they have ample time to fix any unforeseen glitches and enable them comply with 2015 global deadline. - However, only Tanzania adhered to the deadline by moving Dar-es-Salaam to the new system. - Policy makers say the move will give Tanzania an advantage in correcting technical hurdles that the country may encounter along the way as it migrates other part of the country.

A survey by *Xinhua* in Tanzania reveals that five out of 20 people they interviewed in Arusha cannot access their favourite free-to- air channels since the dealers of the gadgets mostly pay television providers who are asking for a monthly fee Tsh9000(Sh489). Only five out of 20 people interviewed in Dar es Salaam by *Xinhua* said they have access to television broadcasts. “We only have useless boxes in our living rooms for we cannot access any stations without a decoder,” George Kaniki of Mbezi Louis, Dar es Salaam, said in an interview. According to a programme by the Tanzania Communications Regulatory Authority (TCRA), regions set to follow in the switch- off will be Dodoma and Tanga, whose analogue signals will be deactivated by the end of this month.

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On 11 January 2013 13:26, Henry Maina <henry@article19.org> wrote:

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Find some quick and raw thoughts after the decision of the Court today on the phased digital switchover.

ARTICLE 19 believes in the promise of digital switchover but also clearly understands that we must develop proper measures to mitigate any results of the transition that may undermine diversity, openness and access.

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________________________________________ From: kictanet [kictanet-bounces+henry=article19.org@lists.kictanet.or.ke] on behalf of Stephen Mutoro [smutoro@yahoo.com] Sent: 19 December 2012 09:20 PM To: Henry Maina Cc: Kictanet Mail list Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance

Thanks for thinking for consumers in a more broad and realistic spectrum (including rural proletariats) beyond the minority but noisy middle to higher income Nairobi CBD/Upper Hill techies who are obsessed about 4+G when millions of others can't access 2-G. There is nothing like "mass ignorance" or "mass intelligence" on a matter of human/consumer rights as ably articulated within Consumer Protection Act, 2012 (which took effect on December 13).

Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke

On Dec 12, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:

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Digital broadcast is great, no doubt about that, and the benefits are boundless. But let us not be elitist in the way we conduct the exercise.

You can free the airwaves, and create thousands of digital channels and jobs, but if I in Kibera and Mathare, I cannot afford to buy a setbox in the next year, I will be forced to use by TVbox as a stool.

Let those with money migrate, and let the poor enjoy the poor quality analog signal in peace until set boxes are dirt cheap.

On the other hand, to reach a consensus, give us cheap subsidized digital set boxes, say at 500bob, marked GoK, and give us adequate time to buy them.

Remember, 2000bob is my dinner for a month.

You switched off my phone, which I bought with hard earned cash, then you switch of my TV! Next you will switch of my radio, then ...

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Listers, Consumer Federation of Kenya (COFEK) has gone to court to stop the

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Digital Switchover in Nairobi at the end of this month. This is most unfortunate considering the fact that the current analogue broadcast has been the most discriminating. Majority of Kenyans have not seen the level of communication that Digital offers (this is what the constitution demands). In the new platform we have seen more vernacular channels delivering news in a language that people understand and relate to. It therefore surprises me when an organization such as COFEK moves to court to protect an elitist broadcast platform.

Further every one new channel creates more than thirty new jobs. There are more than one hundred and fifty new applications awaiting clearance to start digital broadcast. Twenty of these are already on air. If we get two hundred new broadcasters, we shall have achieved our quest for having a pluralistic and diversified broadcast environment. In whose interest is COFEK advancing the agenda of maintaining monopolistic practices in Kenyan Media? Does COFEK really understands the seriousness of unemployment in Kenya?

The cost of not migrating is far too great than biting the bullet now and enable frequency spectrum to be used in more productive and inclusive manner. The benefits of mobile operators moving from 2G to 3G are glaring. We need to scale up to 4G and create a robust last mile that will reduce the rural urban digital divide; that will create an enabling playing field when we start delivering new local content to schools country-wide.

Most of the world has migrated and they fully understand why we need to free up spectrum. EAC member states agreed on the December 31st deadline and Tanzania for example has committed itself to this agreed deadline despite not having a completed the national roll-out of the digital signal. In Kenya we have adopted a phased plan starting from Nairobi. Technology changes every six months and Kenya must remain at the technological edge in order to remain the true hub of Africa. We seem to be exercising freedom without any responsibility.

Ndemo.

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Hi,

This is where we are going wrong, the digital migration has nothing to do with digital TV sets its about how the signal will be transmitted,

On 12/12/2012, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: planned please

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try and see the bigger picture here.

When we moved from analogue internet connectivity where you needed a modem to the digital transmission where you needed a DTU/ADSL/Dongle why didn't you please with the government to stop the importation of Pentium processor based computers or 14" monitors or AT keyboards so that users could transition? If you remember the ISPs never even gave us a transition period and some never even implemented analogue connectivity.

This is the same case with the digital TV migration, you do not need a digital TV to benefit from the new method of transmission all that you are changing is the equivalent of your analogue modem with a digital receiver and nothing more, also remember that this transition is a world wide project and it would be foolhardy to try and stop the oncoming train.

As Kenyans, we have proven time and time again that we are resilient and innovative, we turned off "fake" phones and on the following day they where getting reactivated thanks to the power of google, turn off the analogue signal tomorrow and we shall have 500/- decoders available for sale along the streets of Nairobi, keep postponing the switchoff and there will be no meaning uptake of the digital devices, have you registered for election yet?

All this noise from the entrenched media houses that we are propagating has nothing to do with if Kenyans with black and white TVs can afford to buy the decoder but more on trying to delay the shift of broadcasting power to a more open platform, so before you come to the defense of Linus and his ilk find out whose agenda you are promoting, instead of coming forward and responding to the discussion going on here of which I am sure they are listening, they send mercenaries .

Dr. Ndemo, I again say kudos and tell you keep the course and do what is right for the Nation and avoid being distracted by those with selfish agendas, deliver on this and Konza has a better chance of seeing the light of day.

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Dear list I read this thread and all i see is the "the cart before the horse". I believe Mr gitahi was referring to affordability rather compatibility and adaptability. @Robert, don't you think Kenyans should be given enough time to migrate rather than have a paradigm shift in tech use. I think that we should ban the importation of analog TV as somebody suggested earlier then will have a gradual change till 2015 Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet

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Can someone please explain to me if there are FTA channels and if they are encrypted or not. Think the way Tanzania has implemented there role out is not the model we should use. Make FTA for the masses who can access them without having to pass through any content provider, then if they do want they could subscribe for premium content. That way everyone wins. Unless am being naive in my thinking finally we could have use for all those channels in the Tv, seriously though I think initially there will be many channels but after a while with competition for advertising there those that will merge and disappear.

Bw. Ndemo, It is good that it is law that each MUX operator must enable FTA. There are so many loopholes in that regulation. Knowing Kenyans to be arduous businessmen they will simply reduce to even 1 the # of FTA channels and demand a small ( almost negligible fee) for additional channels. It begs the question; Do we have minimum set number of FTA channels that must be provided? Best Regards. Neville Wattanga, PMP, CISSP -----Original Message----- From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+neville=adwest.co.ug@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of bitange@jambo.co.ke Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 10:45 PM To: neville@adwest.co.ug Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance By law each Multiplex operator must enable Free to Air channels whether you are a subsriber of conditional access or not. CCK is supposed to ensure that consumers do not unnecessarily be forced to subscribe. There are more than 20 FTAs channels that you need not pay for. If Raph Nader were to be Kenyan, he would have fought to see that consumers are not exploited when new technologies are introduced. We shall take up that position and ensure you get the correct set top box that gives you only FTAs that do not require monthly subscription. Further, the law requires that a neutral set top box must access FTAs in all platforms such that one does not need to buy a set to box for Signet then for Pan Africa. Ndemo.

Can someone please explain to me if there are FTA channels and if they are encrypted or not.

Think the way Tanzania has implemented there role out is not the model we should use. Make FTA for the masses who can access them without having to pass through any content provider, then if they do want they could subscribe for premium content. That way everyone wins.

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Robert, We are setting a bad precendence here that most people did not bother to ask why the entire world is migrating to Digital. No one seems to understand that we are behind schedule already. It took Britain and US eight years to fully migrate. Indeed the minimum time you need to fully migrate is five years. We have three years remaining before ITU switches off. Why does Africa always seek for extensions even where we do not need any. India whose per capita income is similar to ours is moving without law suits. I am worried about us that even if God were to give us Jesus time table of his second coming, we shall see people asking that we get extra time. To be a competitive nation we must move with the rest. This hopeless agenda by cofek will delay our LTE initiatives and make Kenya a laggard in matters ICT when we have become the envy of many nations. Ndemo.

Tanzania is definitely a progress nation that will definitely beat us to the industrialization finish line, now you understand why they are avoiding total market integration as this do not want regressive & litigious Kenyans going there to complicate  a system in motion

  Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya

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________________________________ From: Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Kictanet Mail list <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, 11 January 2013, 14:46 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance

IN SUMMARY * The five members states had agreed to go digital three years ahead of global schedule to ensure that they have ample time to fix any unforeseen glitches and enable them comply with 2015 global deadline. * However, only Tanzania adhered to the deadline by moving Dar-es-Salaam to the new system. * Policy makers say the move will give Tanzania an advantage in correcting technical hurdles that the country may encounter along the way as it migrates other part of the country.

A survey by Xinhua in Tanzania reveals that five out of 20 people they interviewed in Arusha cannot access their favourite free-to- air channels since the dealers of the gadgets mostly pay television providers who are asking for a monthly fee Tsh9000(Sh489). Only five out of 20 people interviewed in Dar es Salaam by Xinhua said they have access to television broadcasts. “We only have useless boxes in our living rooms for we cannot access any stations without a decoder,” George Kaniki of Mbezi Louis, Dar es Salaam, said in an interview. According to a programme by the Tanzania Communications Regulatory Authority (TCRA), regions set to follow in the switch- off will be Dodoma and Tanga, whose analogue signals will be deactivated by the end of this month. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Dar-offers-hard-lessons-on-switch-to-digi...

On 11 January 2013 13:26, Henry Maina <henry@article19.org> wrote:

Dear All,

...

Find some quick and raw thoughts after the decision of the Court today on the phased digital switchover.

ARTICLE 19 believes in the promise of digital switchover but also clearly understands that we must develop proper measures to mitigate any results of the transition that may undermine  diversity, openness and access.

Regards

HENRY O. MAINA DIRECTOR ARTICLE 19 KENYA/EASTERN AFRICA P O BOX 2653,00100 NAIROBI TEL:+254 (20) 3862230/2 FAX:+254 (20) 3862231 EMAIL: henry@article19.org

________________________________________ From: kictanet [kictanet-bounces+henry=article19.org@lists.kictanet.or.ke] on behalf of Stephen Mutoro [smutoro@yahoo.com] Sent: 19 December 2012 09:20 PM To: Henry Maina Cc: Kictanet Mail list Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance

Thanks for thinking for consumers in a more broad and realistic spectrum (including rural proletariats) beyond the minority but noisy middle to higher income Nairobi CBD/Upper Hill techies  who are obsessed about 4+G when millions of others can't access 2-G. There is nothing like "mass ignorance" or "mass intelligence" on a matter of human/consumer rights as ably articulated within Consumer Protection Act, 2012 (which took effect on December 13).

Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke

On Dec 12, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:

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Digital broadcast is great, no doubt about that, and the benefits are boundless. But let us not be elitist in the way we conduct the exercise.

You can free the airwaves, and create thousands of digital channels and jobs, but if I in Kibera and Mathare, I cannot afford to buy a setbox in the next year, I will be forced to use by TVbox as a stool.

Let those with money migrate, and let the poor enjoy the poor quality analog signal in peace until set boxes are dirt cheap.

On the other hand, to reach a consensus, give us cheap subsidized digital set boxes, say at 500bob, marked GoK, and give us adequate time to buy them.

Remember, 2000bob is my dinner for a month.

You switched off my phone, which I bought with hard earned cash, then you switch of my TV! Next you will switch of my radio, then ...

On 12/12/2012, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:

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Listers, Consumer Federation of Kenya (COFEK) has gone to court to stop the planned Digital Switchover in Nairobi at the end of this month.  This is most unfortunate considering the fact that the current analogue broadcast has been the most discriminating.  Majority of Kenyans have not seen the level of communication that Digital offers (this is what the constitution demands).  In the new platform we have seen more vernacular channels delivering news in a language that people understand and relate to.  It therefore surprises me when an organization such as COFEK moves to court to protect an elitist broadcast platform.

Further every one new channel creates more than thirty new jobs.  There are more than one hundred and fifty new applications awaiting clearance to start digital broadcast.  Twenty of these are already on air.  If we get two hundred new broadcasters, we shall have achieved our quest for having a pluralistic and diversified broadcast environment.  In whose interest is COFEK advancing the agenda of maintaining monopolistic practices in Kenyan Media? Does COFEK really understands the seriousness of unemployment in Kenya?

The cost of not migrating is far too great than biting the bullet now and enable frequency spectrum to be used in more productive and inclusive manner.  The benefits of mobile operators moving from 2G to 3G are glaring.  We need to scale up to 4G and create a robust last mile that will reduce the rural urban digital divide; that will create an enabling playing field when we start delivering new local content to schools country-wide.

Most of the world has migrated and they fully understand why we need to free up spectrum. EAC member states agreed on the December 31st deadline and Tanzania for example has committed itself to this agreed deadline despite not having a completed the national roll-out of the digital signal. In Kenya we have adopted a phased plan starting from Nairobi. Technology changes every six months and Kenya must remain at the technological edge in order to remain the true hub of Africa.  We seem to be exercising freedom without any responsibility.

Ndemo.

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Hi,

This is where we are going wrong, the digital migration has nothing to do with digital TV sets its about how the signal will be transmitted, please try and see the bigger picture here.

When we moved from analogue internet connectivity where you needed a modem to the digital transmission where you needed a DTU/ADSL/Dongle why didn't you please with the government to stop the importation of Pentium processor based computers or 14" monitors or AT keyboards so that users could transition?  If you remember the ISPs never even gave us a transition period and some never even implemented analogue connectivity.

This is the same case with the digital TV migration, you do not need a digital TV to benefit from the new method of transmission all that you are changing is the equivalent of your analogue modem with a digital receiver and nothing more, also remember that this transition is a world wide project and it would be foolhardy to try and stop the oncoming train.

As Kenyans, we have proven time and time again that we are resilient and innovative, we turned off "fake" phones and on the following day they where getting reactivated thanks to the power of google, turn off the analogue signal tomorrow and we shall have 500/- decoders available for sale along the streets of Nairobi, keep postponing the switchoff and there will be no meaning uptake of the digital devices, have you registered for election yet?

All this noise from the entrenched media houses that we are propagating has nothing to do with if Kenyans with black and white TVs can afford to buy the decoder but more on trying to delay the shift of broadcasting power to a more open platform, so before you come to the defense of Linus and his ilk find out whose agenda you are promoting, instead of coming forward and responding to the discussion going on here of which I am sure they are listening, they send mercenaries .

Dr. Ndemo, I again say kudos and tell you keep the course and do what is right for the Nation and avoid being distracted by those with selfish agendas, deliver on this and Konza has a better chance of seeing the light of day.

Regards

Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya

Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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Dear list I read this thread and all i see is the "the cart before the horse". I believe Mr gitahi was referring to affordability rather compatibility and adaptability. @Robert, don't you think Kenyans should be given enough time to migrate rather than have a paradigm shift in tech use. I think that we should ban the importation of analog TV as somebody suggested earlier then will have a gradual change till 2015 Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet

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Arbitration works where two parties that had an agreement disagree. In this matter, COFEK has cooked up grievances and created a problem where there wasnt one. How will an arbitrator help? Maybe a psychiatrist is what is needed... Mblayo cell: +254715964281 #*****TRON LIVES*****# On Jan 13, 2013 4:40 PM, "Lucy Kimani" <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:

Question is Arbitration an option?

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On Jan 13, 2013, at 12:57 AM, bitange@jambo.co.ke wrote:

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Robert, We are setting a bad precendence here that most people did not bother to ask why the entire world is migrating to Digital. No one seems to understand that we are behind schedule already. It took Britain and US eight years to fully migrate. Indeed the minimum time you need to fully migrate is five years. We have three years remaining before ITU switches off. Why does Africa always seek for extensions even where we do not need any. India whose per capita income is similar to ours is moving without law suits. I am worried about us that even if God were to give us Jesus time table of his second coming, we shall see people asking that we get extra time. To be a competitive nation we must move with the rest.

This hopeless agenda by cofek will delay our LTE initiatives and make Kenya a laggard in matters ICT when we have become the envy of many nations.

Ndemo.

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Tanzania is definitely a progress nation that will definitely beat us to the industrialization finish line, now you understand why they are avoiding total market integration as this do not want regressive & litigious Kenyans going there to complicate a system in motion

Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya

Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

________________________________ From: Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Kictanet Mail list <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, 11 January 2013, 14:46 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance

IN SUMMARY * The five members states had agreed to go digital three years ahead of global schedule to ensure that they have ample time to fix any unforeseen glitches and enable them comply with 2015 global deadline. * However, only Tanzania adhered to the deadline by moving Dar-es-Salaam to the new system. * Policy makers say the move will give Tanzania an advantage in correcting technical hurdles that the country may encounter along the way as it migrates other part of the country.

A survey by Xinhua in Tanzania reveals that five out of 20 people they interviewed in Arusha cannot access their favourite free-to- air channels since the dealers of the gadgets mostly pay television providers who are asking for a monthly fee Tsh9000(Sh489). Only five out of 20 people interviewed in Dar es Salaam by Xinhua said they have access to television broadcasts. “We only have useless boxes in our living rooms for we cannot access any stations without a decoder,” George Kaniki of Mbezi Louis, Dar es Salaam, said in an interview. According to a programme by the Tanzania Communications Regulatory Authority (TCRA), regions set to follow in the switch- off will be Dodoma and Tanga, whose analogue signals will be deactivated by the end of this month.

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On 11 January 2013 13:26, Henry Maina <henry@article19.org> wrote:

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Find some quick and raw thoughts after the decision of the Court today

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the phased digital switchover.

ARTICLE 19 believes in the promise of digital switchover but also clearly understands that we must develop proper measures to mitigate any results of the transition that may undermine diversity, openness and access.

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________________________________________ From: kictanet [kictanet-bounces+henry=article19.org@lists.kictanet.or.ke] on behalf of Stephen Mutoro [smutoro@yahoo.com] Sent: 19 December 2012 09:20 PM To: Henry Maina Cc: Kictanet Mail list Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance

Thanks for thinking for consumers in a more broad and realistic spectrum (including rural proletariats) beyond the minority but noisy middle to higher income Nairobi CBD/Upper Hill techies who are obsessed about 4+G when millions of others can't access 2-G. There is nothing like "mass ignorance" or "mass intelligence" on a matter of human/consumer rights as ably articulated within Consumer Protection Act, 2012 (which took effect on December 13).

Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke

On Dec 12, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:

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Digital broadcast is great, no doubt about that, and the benefits are boundless. But let us not be elitist in the way we conduct the exercise.

You can free the airwaves, and create thousands of digital channels and jobs, but if I in Kibera and Mathare, I cannot afford to buy a setbox in the next year, I will be forced to use by TVbox as a stool.

Let those with money migrate, and let the poor enjoy the poor quality analog signal in peace until set boxes are dirt cheap.

On the other hand, to reach a consensus, give us cheap subsidized digital set boxes, say at 500bob, marked GoK, and give us adequate time to buy them.

Remember, 2000bob is my dinner for a month.

You switched off my phone, which I bought with hard earned cash, then you switch of my TV! Next you will switch of my radio, then ...

On 12/12/2012, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:

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Listers, Consumer Federation of Kenya (COFEK) has gone to court to stop the planned Digital Switchover in Nairobi at the end of this month. This is most unfortunate considering the fact that the current analogue broadcast has been the most discriminating. Majority of Kenyans have not seen the level of communication that Digital offers (this is what the constitution demands). In the new platform we have seen more vernacular channels delivering news in a language that people understand and relate to. It therefore surprises me when an organization such as COFEK moves to court to protect an elitist broadcast platform.

Further every one new channel creates more than thirty new jobs. There are more than one hundred and fifty new applications awaiting clearance to start digital broadcast. Twenty of these are already on air. If we get two hundred new broadcasters, we shall have achieved our quest for having a pluralistic and diversified broadcast environment. In whose interest is COFEK advancing the agenda of maintaining monopolistic practices in Kenyan Media? Does COFEK really understands the seriousness of unemployment in Kenya?

The cost of not migrating is far too great than biting the bullet now and enable frequency spectrum to be used in more productive and inclusive manner. The benefits of mobile operators moving from 2G to 3G are glaring. We need to scale up to 4G and create a robust last mile that will reduce the rural urban digital divide; that will create an enabling playing field when we start delivering new local content to schools country-wide.

Most of the world has migrated and they fully understand why we need to free up spectrum. EAC member states agreed on the December 31st deadline and Tanzania for example has committed itself to this agreed deadline despite not having a completed the national roll-out of the digital signal. In Kenya we have adopted a phased plan starting from Nairobi. Technology changes every six months and Kenya must remain at the technological edge in order to remain the true hub of Africa. We seem to be exercising freedom without any responsibility.

Ndemo.

> Hi, > > This is where we are going wrong, the digital migration has nothing > to do > with digital TV sets its about how the signal will be transmitted, > please > try and see the bigger picture here. > > > When we moved from analogue internet connectivity where you needed a > modem > to the digital transmission where you needed a DTU/ADSL/Dongle why > didn't > you please with the government to stop the importation of Pentium > processor based computers or 14" monitors or AT keyboards so that > users > could transition? If you remember the ISPs never even gave us a > transition period and some never even implemented analogue > connectivity. > > > This is the same case with the digital TV migration, you do not need > a > digital TV to benefit from the new method of transmission all that > you > are > changing is the equivalent of your analogue modem with a digital > receiver > and nothing more, also remember that this transition is a world wide > project and it would be foolhardy to try and stop the oncoming

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> > > As Kenyans, we have proven time and time again that we are resilient > and > innovative, we turned off "fake" phones and on the following day

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> analogue signal tomorrow and we shall have 500/- decoders available > for > sale along the streets of Nairobi, keep postponing the switchoff and > there > will be no meaning uptake of the digital devices, have you registered > for > election yet? > > > All this noise from the entrenched media houses that we are > propagating > has nothing to do with if Kenyans with black and white TVs can afford > to > buy the decoder but more on trying to delay the shift of broadcasting > power to a more open platform, so before you come to the defense of > Linus > and his ilk find out whose agenda you are promoting, instead of > coming > forward and responding to the discussion going on here of which I am > sure > they are listening, they send mercenaries . > > Dr. Ndemo, I again say kudos and tell you keep the course and do what > is > right for the Nation and avoid being distracted by those with selfish > agendas, deliver on this and Konza has a better chance of seeing the > light > of day. > > Regards > > > Robert Yawe > KAY System Technologies Ltd > Phoenix House, 6th Floor > P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 > Kenya > > > Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 > > > ________________________________ > From: meshack emakunat <memakunat@yahoo.com> > To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk > Cc: Meshack <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Sent: Wednesday, 5 December 2012, 16:48 > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance > > > Dear list > I read this thread and all i see is the "the cart before the horse". > I > believe Mr gitahi was referring to affordability rather compatibility > and > adaptability. @Robert, don't you think Kenyans should be given enough > time > to migrate rather than have a paradigm shift in tech use. I think > that we > should ban the importation of analog TV as somebody suggested earlier > then > will have a gradual change till 2015 > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40yahoo.co.... > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder > platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the > ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and > development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable > behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and > bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect > privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or > qualifications._______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder > platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the > ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and > development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable > behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and > bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect > privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

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At times you wonder whether making "noise" is just a matter of being relevant, I highly doubt Cofek represents me as a consumer... Not that i am biased, but on what basis / agreement with the consumer does Cofek portend to be the rep? On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:

Arbitration works where two parties that had an agreement disagree.

In this matter, COFEK has cooked up grievances and created a problem where there wasnt one. How will an arbitrator help? Maybe a psychiatrist is what is needed...

Mblayo

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Robert, We are setting a bad precendence here that most people did not bother to ask why the entire world is migrating to Digital. No one seems to understand that we are behind schedule already. It took Britain and US eight years to fully migrate. Indeed the minimum time you need to fully migrate is five years. We have three years remaining before ITU switches off. Why does Africa always seek for extensions even where we do not need any. India whose per capita income is similar to ours is moving without law suits. I am worried about us that even if God were to give us Jesus time table of his second coming, we shall see people asking that we get extra time. To be a competitive nation we must move with the rest.

This hopeless agenda by cofek will delay our LTE initiatives and make Kenya a laggard in matters ICT when we have become the envy of many nations.

Ndemo.

...

Tanzania is definitely a progress nation that will definitely beat us to the industrialization finish line, now you understand why they are avoiding total market integration as this do not want regressive & litigious Kenyans going there to complicate a system in motion

Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya

Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

________________________________ From: Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Kictanet Mail list <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, 11 January 2013, 14:46 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance

IN SUMMARY * The five members states had agreed to go digital three years ahead of global schedule to ensure that they have ample time to fix any unforeseen glitches and enable them comply with 2015 global deadline. * However, only Tanzania adhered to the deadline by moving Dar-es-Salaam to the new system. * Policy makers say the move will give Tanzania an advantage in correcting technical hurdles that the country may encounter along the way as it migrates other part of the country.

A survey by Xinhua in Tanzania reveals that five out of 20 people they interviewed in Arusha cannot access their favourite free-to- air channels since the dealers of the gadgets mostly pay television providers who are asking for a monthly fee Tsh9000(Sh489). Only five out of 20 people interviewed in Dar es Salaam by Xinhua said they have access to television broadcasts. “We only have useless boxes in our living rooms for we cannot access any stations without a decoder,” George Kaniki of Mbezi Louis, Dar es Salaam, said in an interview. According to a programme by the Tanzania Communications Regulatory Authority (TCRA), regions set to follow in the switch- off will be Dodoma and Tanga, whose analogue signals will be deactivated by the end of this month.

http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Dar-offers-hard-lessons-on-switch-to-digi...

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On 11 January 2013 13:26, Henry Maina <henry@article19.org> wrote:

Dear All,

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Find some quick and raw thoughts after the decision of the Court

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the phased digital switchover.

ARTICLE 19 believes in the promise of digital switchover but also clearly understands that we must develop proper measures to mitigate any results of the transition that may undermine diversity, openness and access.

Regards

HENRY O. MAINA DIRECTOR ARTICLE 19 KENYA/EASTERN AFRICA P O BOX 2653,00100 NAIROBI TEL:+254 (20) 3862230/2 FAX:+254 (20) 3862231 EMAIL: henry@article19.org

________________________________________ From: kictanet [kictanet-bounces+henry=article19.org@lists.kictanet.or.ke] on behalf of Stephen Mutoro [smutoro@yahoo.com] Sent: 19 December 2012 09:20 PM To: Henry Maina Cc: Kictanet Mail list Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance

Thanks for thinking for consumers in a more broad and realistic spectrum (including rural proletariats) beyond the minority but noisy middle to higher income Nairobi CBD/Upper Hill techies who are obsessed about 4+G when millions of others can't access 2-G. There is nothing like "mass ignorance" or "mass intelligence" on a matter of human/consumer rights as ably articulated within Consumer Protection Act, 2012 (which took effect on December 13).

Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke

On Dec 12, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:

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Digital broadcast is great, no doubt about that, and the benefits are boundless. But let us not be elitist in the way we conduct the exercise.

You can free the airwaves, and create thousands of digital channels and jobs, but if I in Kibera and Mathare, I cannot afford to buy a setbox in the next year, I will be forced to use by TVbox as a stool.

Let those with money migrate, and let the poor enjoy the poor quality analog signal in peace until set boxes are dirt cheap.

On the other hand, to reach a consensus, give us cheap subsidized digital set boxes, say at 500bob, marked GoK, and give us adequate time to buy them.

Remember, 2000bob is my dinner for a month.

You switched off my phone, which I bought with hard earned cash, then you switch of my TV! Next you will switch of my radio, then ...

On 12/12/2012, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: > Listers, > Consumer Federation of Kenya (COFEK) has gone to court to stop the > planned > Digital Switchover in Nairobi at the end of this month. This is most > unfortunate considering the fact that the current analogue broadcast > has > been the most discriminating. Majority of Kenyans have not seen the > level > of communication that Digital offers (this is what the constitution > demands). In the new platform we have seen more vernacular channels > delivering news in a language that people understand and relate to. > It > therefore surprises me when an organization such as COFEK moves to > court > to protect an elitist broadcast platform. > > Further every one new channel creates more than thirty new jobs. > There > are more than one hundred and fifty new applications awaiting > clearance to > start digital broadcast. Twenty of these are already on air. If we > get > two hundred new broadcasters, we shall have achieved our quest for > having > a pluralistic and diversified broadcast environment. In whose > interest is > COFEK advancing the agenda of maintaining monopolistic practices in > Kenyan > Media? Does COFEK really understands the seriousness of unemployment > in > Kenya? > > The cost of not migrating is far too great than biting the bullet now > and > enable frequency spectrum to be used in more productive and inclusive > manner. The benefits of mobile operators moving from 2G to 3G are > glaring. We need to scale up to 4G and create a robust last mile > that > will reduce the rural urban digital divide; that will create an > enabling > playing field when we start delivering new local content to schools > country-wide. > > Most of the world has migrated and they fully understand why we need > to > free up spectrum. EAC member states agreed on the December 31st > deadline > and Tanzania for example has committed itself to this agreed deadline > despite not having a completed the national roll-out of the digital > signal. In Kenya we have adopted a phased plan starting from Nairobi. > Technology changes every six months and Kenya must remain at the > technological edge in order to remain the true hub of Africa. We > seem to > be exercising freedom without any responsibility. > > Ndemo. > > >> Hi, >> >> This is where we are going wrong, the digital migration has nothing >> to do >> with digital TV sets its about how the signal will be transmitted, >> please >> try and see the bigger picture here. >> >> >> When we moved from analogue internet connectivity where you needed a >> modem >> to the digital transmission where you needed a DTU/ADSL/Dongle why >> didn't >> you please with the government to stop the importation of Pentium >> processor based computers or 14" monitors or AT keyboards so that >> users >> could transition? If you remember the ISPs never even gave us a >> transition period and some never even implemented analogue >> connectivity. >> >> >> This is the same case with the digital TV migration, you do not need >> a >> digital TV to benefit from the new method of transmission all that >> you >> are >> changing is the equivalent of your analogue modem with a digital >> receiver >> and nothing more, also remember that this transition is a world wide >> project and it would be foolhardy to try and stop the oncoming

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Hi, However much we might not like what cofek is doing do not forget that we created this monster when we applauded them for the CCK DG issue. What I give him credit for is that he does not just seat back and tweet issues but gets funding so that he can take action on issues he feels passionate about, we can not even raise funds to hold a coffee brain storming session. We should be able to present our case the the larger public but this cannot be done through social media. Regards   Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Andy G <andy.gesora@gmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Sunday, 13 January 2013, 18:09 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance At times you wonder whether making "noise" is just a matter of being relevant, I highly doubt Cofek represents me as a consumer... Not that i am biased, but on what basis / agreement with the consumer does Cofek portend to be the rep? On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote: Arbitration works where two parties that had an agreement disagree.

In this matter, COFEK has cooked up grievances and created a problem where there wasnt one. How will an arbitrator help? Maybe a psychiatrist is what is needed... Mblayo     cell: +254715964281 #*****TRON LIVES*****# On Jan 13, 2013 4:40 PM, "Lucy Kimani" <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:

Question is Arbitration an option?

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Robert, We are setting a bad precendence here that most people did not bother to ask why the entire world is migrating to Digital.  No one seems to understand that we are behind schedule already.  It took Britain and US eight years to fully migrate.  Indeed the minimum time you need to fully migrate is five years.  We have three years remaining before ITU switches off.  Why does Africa always seek for extensions even where we do not need any.  India whose per capita income is similar to ours is moving without law suits.  I am worried about us that even if God were to give us Jesus time table of his second coming, we shall see people asking that we get extra time.  To be a competitive nation we must move with the rest.

This hopeless agenda by cofek will delay our LTE initiatives and make Kenya a laggard in matters ICT when we have become the envy of many nations.

Ndemo.

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Tanzania is definitely a progress nation that will definitely beat us to the industrialization finish line, now you understand why they are avoiding total market integration as this do not want regressive & litigious Kenyans going there to complicate  a system in motion

Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya

Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

________________________________ From: Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Kictanet Mail list <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, 11 January 2013, 14:46 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance

IN SUMMARY    * The five members states had agreed to go digital three years ahead of global schedule to ensure that they have ample time to fix any unforeseen glitches and enable them comply with 2015 global deadline.    * However, only Tanzania adhered to the deadline by moving Dar-es-Salaam to the new system.    * Policy makers say the move will give Tanzania an advantage in correcting technical hurdles that the country may encounter along the way as it migrates other part of the country.

A survey by Xinhua in Tanzania reveals that five out of 20 people they interviewed in Arusha cannot access their favourite free-to- air channels since the dealers of the gadgets mostly pay television providers who are asking for a monthly fee Tsh9000(Sh489). Only five out of 20 people interviewed in Dar es Salaam by Xinhua said they have access to television broadcasts. “We only have useless boxes in our living rooms for we cannot access any stations without a decoder,” George Kaniki of Mbezi Louis, Dar es Salaam, said in an interview. According to a programme by the Tanzania Communications Regulatory Authority (TCRA), regions set to follow in the switch- off will be Dodoma and Tanga, whose analogue signals will be deactivated by the end of this month. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Dar-offers-hard-lessons-on-switch-to-digi...

On 11 January 2013 13:26, Henry Maina <henry@article19.org> wrote:

Dear All,

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Find some quick and raw thoughts after the decision of the Court today on the phased digital switchover.

ARTICLE 19 believes in the promise of digital switchover but also clearly understands that we must develop proper measures to mitigate any results of the transition that may undermine  diversity, openness and access.

Regards

HENRY O. MAINA DIRECTOR ARTICLE 19 KENYA/EASTERN AFRICA P O BOX 2653,00100 NAIROBI TEL:+254 (20) 3862230/2 FAX:+254 (20) 3862231 EMAIL: henry@article19.org

________________________________________ From: kictanet [kictanet-bounces+henry=article19.org@lists.kictanet.or.ke] on behalf of Stephen Mutoro [smutoro@yahoo.com] Sent: 19 December 2012 09:20 PM To: Henry Maina Cc: Kictanet Mail list Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance

Thanks for thinking for consumers in a more broad and realistic spectrum (including rural proletariats) beyond the minority but noisy middle to higher income Nairobi CBD/Upper Hill techies  who are obsessed about 4+G when millions of others can't access 2-G. There is nothing like "mass ignorance" or "mass intelligence" on a matter of human/consumer rights as ably articulated within Consumer Protection Act, 2012 (which took effect on December 13).

Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke

On Dec 12, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:

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Digital broadcast is great, no doubt about that, and the benefits are boundless. But let us not be elitist in the way we conduct the exercise.

You can free the airwaves, and create thousands of digital channels and jobs, but if I in Kibera and Mathare, I cannot afford to buy a setbox in the next year, I will be forced to use by TVbox as a stool.

Let those with money migrate, and let the poor enjoy the poor quality analog signal in peace until set boxes are dirt cheap.

On the other hand, to reach a consensus, give us cheap subsidized digital set boxes, say at 500bob, marked GoK, and give us adequate time to buy them.

Remember, 2000bob is my dinner for a month.

You switched off my phone, which I bought with hard earned cash, then you switch of my TV! Next you will switch of my radio, then ...

On 12/12/2012, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: > Listers, > Consumer Federation of Kenya (COFEK) has gone to court to stop the > planned > Digital Switchover in Nairobi at the end of this month.  This is most > unfortunate considering the fact that the current analogue broadcast > has > been the most discriminating.  Majority of Kenyans have not seen the > level > of communication that Digital offers (this is what the constitution > demands).  In the new platform we have seen more vernacular channels > delivering news in a language that people understand and relate to. >  It > therefore surprises me when an organization such as COFEK moves to > court > to protect an elitist broadcast platform. > > Further every one new channel creates more than thirty new jobs. >  There > are more than one hundred and fifty new applications awaiting > clearance to > start digital broadcast.  Twenty of these are already on air.  If we > get > two hundred new broadcasters, we shall have achieved our quest for > having > a pluralistic and diversified broadcast environment.  In whose > interest is > COFEK advancing the agenda of maintaining monopolistic practices in > Kenyan > Media? Does COFEK really understands the seriousness of unemployment > in > Kenya? > > The cost of not migrating is far too great than biting the bullet now > and > enable frequency spectrum to be used in more productive and inclusive > manner.  The benefits of mobile operators moving from 2G to 3G are > glaring.  We need to scale up to 4G and create a robust last mile > that > will reduce the rural urban digital divide; that will create an > enabling > playing field when we start delivering new local content to schools > country-wide. > > Most of the world has migrated and they fully understand why we need > to > free up spectrum. EAC member states agreed on the December 31st > deadline > and Tanzania for example has committed itself to this agreed deadline > despite not having a completed the national roll-out of the digital > signal. In Kenya we have adopted a phased plan starting from Nairobi. > Technology changes every six months and Kenya must remain at the > technological edge in order to remain the true hub of Africa.  We > seem to > be exercising freedom without any responsibility. > > Ndemo. > > >> Hi, >> >> This is where we are going wrong, the digital migration has nothing >> to do >> with digital TV sets its about how the signal will be transmitted, >> please >> try and see the bigger picture here. >> >> >> When we moved from analogue internet connectivity where you needed a >> modem >> to the digital transmission where you needed a DTU/ADSL/Dongle why >> didn't >> you please with the government to stop the importation of Pentium >> processor based computers or 14" monitors or AT keyboards so that >> users >> could transition?  If you remember the ISPs never even gave us a >> transition period and some never even implemented analogue >> connectivity. >> >> >> This is the same case with the digital TV migration, you do not need >> a >> digital TV to benefit from the new method of transmission all that >> you >> are >> changing is the equivalent of your analogue modem with a digital >> receiver >> and nothing more, also remember that this transition is a world wide >> project and it would be foolhardy to try and stop the oncoming train. >> >> >> As Kenyans, we have proven time and time again that we are resilient >> and >> innovative, we turned off "fake" phones and on the following day they >> where getting reactivated thanks to the power of google, turn off the >> analogue signal tomorrow and we shall have 500/- decoders available >> for >> sale along the streets of Nairobi, keep postponing the switchoff and >> there >> will be no meaning uptake of the digital devices, have you registered >> for >> election yet? >> >> >> All this noise from the entrenched media houses that we are >> propagating >> has nothing to do with if Kenyans with black and white TVs can afford >> to >> buy the decoder but more on trying to delay the shift of broadcasting >> power to a more open platform, so before you come to the defense of >> Linus >> and his ilk find out whose agenda you are promoting, instead of >> coming >> forward and responding to the discussion going on here of which I am >> sure >> they are listening, they send mercenaries . >> >> Dr. Ndemo, I again say kudos and tell you keep the course and do what >> is >> right for the Nation and avoid being distracted by those with selfish >> agendas, deliver on this and Konza has a better chance of seeing the >> light >> of day. >> >> Regards >> >> >> Robert Yawe >> KAY System Technologies Ltd >> Phoenix House, 6th Floor >> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 >> Kenya >> >> >> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: meshack emakunat <memakunat@yahoo.com> >> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk >> Cc: Meshack <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> Sent: Wednesday, 5 December 2012, 16:48 >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance >> >> >> Dear list >> I read this thread and all i see is the "the cart before the horse". >> I >> believe Mr gitahi was referring to affordability rather compatibility >> and >> adaptability. @Robert, don't you think Kenyans should be given enough >> time >> to migrate rather than have a paradigm shift in tech use. 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Make me understand, Is COFEK against switching on of Digital signal, or is it against switching of Analog signal? Can we separate the two issuesl? On 13 January 2013 08:57, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:

Robert, We are setting a bad precendence here that most people did not bother to ask why the entire world is migrating to Digital. No one seems to understand that we are behind schedule already. It took Britain and US eight years to fully migrate. Indeed the minimum time you need to fully migrate is five years. We have three years remaining before ITU switches off. Why does Africa always seek for extensions even where we do not need any. India whose per capita income is similar to ours is moving without law suits. I am worried about us that even if God were to give us Jesus time table of his second coming, we shall see people asking that we get extra time. To be a competitive nation we must move with the rest.

This hopeless agenda by cofek will delay our LTE initiatives and make Kenya a laggard in matters ICT when we have become the envy of many nations.

Ndemo.

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Tanzania is definitely a progress nation that will definitely beat us to the industrialization finish line, now you understand why they are avoiding total market integration as this do not want regressive & litigious Kenyans going there to complicate a system in motion

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________________________________ From: Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Kictanet Mail list <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, 11 January 2013, 14:46 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance

IN SUMMARY * The five members states had agreed to go digital three years ahead of global schedule to ensure that they have ample time to fix any unforeseen glitches and enable them comply with 2015 global deadline. * However, only Tanzania adhered to the deadline by moving Dar-es-Salaam to the new system. * Policy makers say the move will give Tanzania an advantage in correcting technical hurdles that the country may encounter along the way as it migrates other part of the country.

A survey by Xinhua in Tanzania reveals that five out of 20 people they interviewed in Arusha cannot access their favourite free-to- air channels since the dealers of the gadgets mostly pay television providers who are asking for a monthly fee Tsh9000(Sh489). Only five out of 20 people interviewed in Dar es Salaam by Xinhua said they have access to television broadcasts. “We only have useless boxes in our living rooms for we cannot access any stations without a decoder,†George Kaniki of Mbezi Louis, Dar es Salaam, said in an interview. According to a programme by the Tanzania Communications Regulatory Authority (TCRA), regions set to follow in the switch- off will be Dodoma and Tanga, whose analogue signals will be deactivated by the end of this month.

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On 11 January 2013 13:26, Henry Maina <henry@article19.org> wrote:

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Find some quick and raw thoughts after the decision of the Court today on the phased digital switchover.

ARTICLE 19 believes in the promise of digital switchover but also clearly understands that we must develop proper measures to mitigate any results of the transition that may undermine  diversity, openness and access.

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Stephen Mutoro [smutoro@yahoo.com] Sent: 19 December 2012 09:20 PM To: Henry Maina Cc: Kictanet Mail list Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance

Thanks for thinking for consumers in a more broad and realistic spectrum (including rural proletariats) beyond the minority but noisy middle to higher income Nairobi CBD/Upper Hill techies  who are obsessed about 4+G when millions of others can't access 2-G. There is nothing like "mass ignorance" or "mass intelligence" on a matter of human/consumer rights as ably articulated within Consumer Protection Act, 2012 (which took effect on December 13).

Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke

On Dec 12, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:

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Digital broadcast is great, no doubt about that, and the benefits are boundless. But let us not be elitist in the way we conduct the exercise.

You can free the airwaves, and create thousands of digital channels and jobs, but if I in Kibera and Mathare, I cannot afford to buy a setbox in the next year, I will be forced to use by TVbox as a stool.

Let those with money migrate, and let the poor enjoy the poor quality analog signal in peace until set boxes are dirt cheap.

On the other hand, to reach a consensus, give us cheap subsidized digital set boxes, say at 500bob, marked GoK, and give us adequate time to buy them.

Remember, 2000bob is my dinner for a month.

You switched off my phone, which I bought with hard earned cash, then you switch of my TV! Next you will switch of my radio, then ...

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Listers, Consumer Federation of Kenya (COFEK) has gone to court to stop the planned Digital Switchover in Nairobi at the end of this month. Â This is most unfortunate considering the fact that the current analogue broadcast has been the most discriminating. Â Majority of Kenyans have not seen the level of communication that Digital offers (this is what the constitution demands). Â In the new platform we have seen more vernacular channels delivering news in a language that people understand and relate to. Â It therefore surprises me when an organization such as COFEK moves to court to protect an elitist broadcast platform.

Further every one new channel creates more than thirty new jobs. Â There are more than one hundred and fifty new applications awaiting clearance to start digital broadcast. Â Twenty of these are already on air. Â If we get two hundred new broadcasters, we shall have achieved our quest for having a pluralistic and diversified broadcast environment. Â In whose interest is COFEK advancing the agenda of maintaining monopolistic practices in Kenyan Media? Does COFEK really understands the seriousness of unemployment in Kenya?

The cost of not migrating is far too great than biting the bullet now and enable frequency spectrum to be used in more productive and inclusive manner. Â The benefits of mobile operators moving from 2G to 3G are glaring. Â We need to scale up to 4G and create a robust last mile that will reduce the rural urban digital divide; that will create an enabling playing field when we start delivering new local content to schools country-wide.

Most of the world has migrated and they fully understand why we need to free up spectrum. EAC member states agreed on the December 31st deadline and Tanzania for example has committed itself to this agreed deadline despite not having a completed the national roll-out of the digital signal. In Kenya we have adopted a phased plan starting from Nairobi. Technology changes every six months and Kenya must remain at the technological edge in order to remain the true hub of Africa. Â We seem to be exercising freedom without any responsibility.

Ndemo.

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Hi,

This is where we are going wrong, the digital migration has nothing to do with digital TV sets its about how the signal will be transmitted, please try and see the bigger picture here.

When we moved from analogue internet connectivity where you needed a modem to the digital transmission where you needed a DTU/ADSL/Dongle why didn't you please with the government to stop the importation of Pentium processor based computers or 14" monitors or AT keyboards so that users could transition? Â If you remember the ISPs never even gave us a transition period and some never even implemented analogue connectivity.

This is the same case with the digital TV migration, you do not need a digital TV to benefit from the new method of transmission all that you are changing is the equivalent of your analogue modem with a digital receiver and nothing more, also remember that this transition is a world wide project and it would be foolhardy to try and stop the oncoming train.

As Kenyans, we have proven time and time again that we are resilient and innovative, we turned off "fake" phones and on the following day they where getting reactivated thanks to the power of google, turn off the analogue signal tomorrow and we shall have 500/- decoders available for sale along the streets of Nairobi, keep postponing the switchoff and there will be no meaning uptake of the digital devices, have you registered for election yet?

All this noise from the entrenched media houses that we are propagating has nothing to do with if Kenyans with black and white TVs can afford to buy the decoder but more on trying to delay the shift of broadcasting power to a more open platform, so before you come to the defense of Linus and his ilk find out whose agenda you are promoting, instead of coming forward and responding to the discussion going on here of which I am sure they are listening, they send mercenaries .

Dr. Ndemo, I again say kudos and tell you keep the course and do what is right for the Nation and avoid being distracted by those with selfish agendas, deliver on this and Konza has a better chance of seeing the light of day.

Regards

Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya

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Dear list I read this thread and all i see is the "the cart before the horse". I believe Mr gitahi was referring to affordability rather compatibility and adaptability. @Robert, don't you think Kenyans should be given enough time to migrate rather than have a paradigm shift in tech use. I think that we should ban the importation of analog TV as somebody suggested earlier then will have a gradual change till 2015 Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet

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Grace Thanks. Do you have a copy of the plan. Does it make clear which frequencies are going to be set aside for TV and radio (public, private and community), security, aviation? Please share. HENRY O. MAINA DIRECTOR ARTICLE 19 KENYA/EASTERN AFRICA P O BOX 2653,00100 NAIROBI TEL:+254 (20) 3862230/2 FAX:+254 (20) 3862231 EMAIL: henry@article19.org ________________________________________ From: Grace Githaiga [ggithaiga@hotmail.com] Sent: 11 January 2013 02:53 PM To: Henry Maina Cc: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: RE: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance Thanks Henry. I thought the simulcast period is over? Cant quite remember but there was a plan that had been released and CCK may have been following it considering the switch off was meant to happen last year. Rgds GG From: henry@article19.org Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 10:26:16 +0000 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com Dear All, Find some quick and raw thoughts after the decision of the Court today on the phased digital switchover. ARTICLE 19 believes in the promise of digital switchover but also clearly understands that we must develop proper measures to mitigate any results of the transition that may undermine diversity, openness and access. Regards HENRY O. MAINA DIRECTOR ARTICLE 19 KENYA/EASTERN AFRICA P O BOX 2653,00100 NAIROBI TEL:+254 (20) 3862230/2 FAX:+254 (20) 3862231 EMAIL: henry@article19.org ________________________________________ From: kictanet [kictanet-bounces+henry=article19.org@lists.kictanet.or.ke] on behalf of Stephen Mutoro [smutoro@yahoo.com] Sent: 19 December 2012 09:20 PM To: Henry Maina Cc: Kictanet Mail list Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance Thanks for thinking for consumers in a more broad and realistic spectrum (including rural proletariats) beyond the minority but noisy middle to higher income Nairobi CBD/Upper Hill techies who are obsessed about 4+G when millions of others can't access 2-G. There is nothing like "mass ignorance" or "mass intelligence" on a matter of human/consumer rights as ably articulated within Consumer Protection Act, 2012 (which took effect on December 13). Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke On Dec 12, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:

Digital broadcast is great, no doubt about that, and the benefits are boundless. But let us not be elitist in the way we conduct the exercise.

You can free the airwaves, and create thousands of digital channels and jobs, but if I in Kibera and Mathare, I cannot afford to buy a setbox in the next year, I will be forced to use by TVbox as a stool.

Let those with money migrate, and let the poor enjoy the poor quality analog signal in peace until set boxes are dirt cheap.

On the other hand, to reach a consensus, give us cheap subsidized digital set boxes, say at 500bob, marked GoK, and give us adequate time to buy them.

Remember, 2000bob is my dinner for a month.

You switched off my phone, which I bought with hard earned cash, then you switch of my TV! Next you will switch of my radio, then ...

On 12/12/2012, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:

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Listers, Consumer Federation of Kenya (COFEK) has gone to court to stop the planned Digital Switchover in Nairobi at the end of this month. This is most unfortunate considering the fact that the current analogue broadcast has been the most discriminating. Majority of Kenyans have not seen the level of communication that Digital offers (this is what the constitution demands). In the new platform we have seen more vernacular channels delivering news in a language that people understand and relate to. It therefore surprises me when an organization such as COFEK moves to court to protect an elitist broadcast platform.

Further every one new channel creates more than thirty new jobs. There are more than one hundred and fifty new applications awaiting clearance to start digital broadcast. Twenty of these are already on air. If we get two hundred new broadcasters, we shall have achieved our quest for having a pluralistic and diversified broadcast environment. In whose interest is COFEK advancing the agenda of maintaining monopolistic practices in Kenyan Media? Does COFEK really understands the seriousness of unemployment in Kenya?

The cost of not migrating is far too great than biting the bullet now and enable frequency spectrum to be used in more productive and inclusive manner. The benefits of mobile operators moving from 2G to 3G are glaring. We need to scale up to 4G and create a robust last mile that will reduce the rural urban digital divide; that will create an enabling playing field when we start delivering new local content to schools country-wide.

Most of the world has migrated and they fully understand why we need to free up spectrum. EAC member states agreed on the December 31st deadline and Tanzania for example has committed itself to this agreed deadline despite not having a completed the national roll-out of the digital signal. In Kenya we have adopted a phased plan starting from Nairobi. Technology changes every six months and Kenya must remain at the technological edge in order to remain the true hub of Africa. We seem to be exercising freedom without any responsibility.

Ndemo.

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Hi,

This is where we are going wrong, the digital migration has nothing to do with digital TV sets its about how the signal will be transmitted, please try and see the bigger picture here.

When we moved from analogue internet connectivity where you needed a modem to the digital transmission where you needed a DTU/ADSL/Dongle why didn't you please with the government to stop the importation of Pentium processor based computers or 14" monitors or AT keyboards so that users could transition? If you remember the ISPs never even gave us a transition period and some never even implemented analogue connectivity.

This is the same case with the digital TV migration, you do not need a digital TV to benefit from the new method of transmission all that you are changing is the equivalent of your analogue modem with a digital receiver and nothing more, also remember that this transition is a world wide project and it would be foolhardy to try and stop the oncoming train.

As Kenyans, we have proven time and time again that we are resilient and innovative, we turned off "fake" phones and on the following day they where getting reactivated thanks to the power of google, turn off the analogue signal tomorrow and we shall have 500/- decoders available for sale along the streets of Nairobi, keep postponing the switchoff and there will be no meaning uptake of the digital devices, have you registered for election yet?

All this noise from the entrenched media houses that we are propagating has nothing to do with if Kenyans with black and white TVs can afford to buy the decoder but more on trying to delay the shift of broadcasting power to a more open platform, so before you come to the defense of Linus and his ilk find out whose agenda you are promoting, instead of coming forward and responding to the discussion going on here of which I am sure they are listening, they send mercenaries .

Dr. Ndemo, I again say kudos and tell you keep the course and do what is right for the Nation and avoid being distracted by those with selfish agendas, deliver on this and Konza has a better chance of seeing the light of day.

Regards

Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya

Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

________________________________ From: meshack emakunat <memakunat@yahoo.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Meshack <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, 5 December 2012, 16:48 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance

Dear list I read this thread and all i see is the "the cart before the horse". I believe Mr gitahi was referring to affordability rather compatibility and adaptability. @Robert, don't you think Kenyans should be given enough time to migrate rather than have a paradigm shift in tech use. I think that we should ban the importation of analog TV as somebody suggested earlier then will have a gradual change till 2015 Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet

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Grace/Listers, Unless I am wrong, the report that you are referring to is available on our website at http://www.cck.go.ke/about/downloads/Transition_2007.pdf Initially, the simulcast period was envisaged to end in June 2012. However due to delays in the deployment of signal distribution infrastructure and unavailability of set top boxes in adequate quantities in the local market, the simulcast period was extended to December 31st, 2012. Best regards, Christopher Wambua Manager/Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Division Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448, NAIROBI 00800 KENYA From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Grace Githaiga Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 3:17 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance Henry No, I do not have the plan. However, I remember reading about the end of the simulcast period either in the first report done by the committee appointed to look into the matter, or there must have been some information in the press advertised by the digital migration secretariat. Further, the report had talked of how the frequencies would be handled. There was clearly a plan in place. Maybe CCK could share it. Rgds GG

From: henry@article19.org To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: RE: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 12:07:57 +0000

Grace

Thanks. Do you have a copy of the plan. Does it make clear which frequencies are going to be set aside for TV and radio (public, private and community), security, aviation? Please share.

HENRY O. MAINA DIRECTOR ARTICLE 19 KENYA/EASTERN AFRICA P O BOX 2653,00100 NAIROBI TEL:+254 (20) 3862230/2 FAX:+254 (20) 3862231 EMAIL: henry@article19.org

________________________________________ From: Grace Githaiga [ggithaiga@hotmail.com] Sent: 11 January 2013 02:53 PM To: Henry Maina Cc: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: RE: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance

Thanks Henry.

I thought the simulcast period is over? Cant quite remember but there was a plan that had been released and CCK may have been following it considering the switch off was meant to happen last year.

Rgds GG

From: henry@article19.org Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 10:26:16 +0000 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com

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Hi Christopher, Thanks for the report. Why are your reports set in standard-issue government style? The typography is awful: sans font, 12pt or larger, which makes continuous reading quite difficult, especially online; the tables with vertical lines; inconsistent bibliography styles; and so on. Almost every serious rule of effective communication in print is violated here. It's one thing to find this sort of thing from the Central Bank (or some other equally staid part of government) but one would expect you guys to put out reports that have a passing acquaintance with the canons of effective communication in print: with Tufte ( http://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/books_vdqi) or Bringhurst ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elements_of_Typographic_Style) or Butterick (http://www.typographyforlawyers.com/?page_id=1300) or, indeed, with the sort of thing you can pick up by reading a LATEX manual. For excellent recent government typography, the reports of New Zealand's Waitangi tribunal stand out, and I've attached one of them to this email. I'm sorry to pick on you --- and I have a spare copy of Bringhurst, if you'd like one -- but I read the report; my eyes bled; and it occurred to me that there was no real reason for you not to do better than this. Regards, Daniel Waweru, 26 Hai Phen, Bodoni, Caissa Superiore, Republic of San Serriffe On 11 January 2013 16:33, Wambua, Christopher <Wambua@cck.go.ke> wrote:

Grace/Listers,****

** **

Unless I am wrong, the report that you are referring to is available on our website at http://www.cck.go.ke/about/downloads/Transition_2007.pdf ** **

** **

Initially, the simulcast period was envisaged to end in June 2012. However due to delays in the deployment of signal distribution infrastructure and unavailability of set top boxes in adequate quantities in the local market, the simulcast period was extended to December 31st, 2012. ****

** **

Best regards,****

** **

*Christopher Wambua*

*Manager/Communications*

*Consumer and Public Affairs Division *

*Communications Commission of Kenya*

*P.O. Box 14448, NAIROBI 00800*

*KENYA*

** **

** **

** **

*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua= cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Grace Githaiga *Sent:* Friday, January 11, 2013 3:17 PM *To:* Wambua, Christopher *Cc:* kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke

*Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance****

** **

Henry****

No, I do not have the plan. However, I remember reading about the end of the simulcast period either in the first report done by the committee appointed to look into the matter, or there must have been some information in the press advertised by the digital migration secretariat. Further, the report had talked of how the frequencies would be handled. There was clearly a plan in place. Maybe CCK could share it. ****

Rgds****

GG****

...

From: henry@article19.org To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: RE: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 12:07:57 +0000

Grace

Thanks. Do you have a copy of the plan. Does it make clear which frequencies are going to be set aside for TV and radio (public, private and community), security, aviation? Please share.

HENRY O. MAINA DIRECTOR ARTICLE 19 KENYA/EASTERN AFRICA P O BOX 2653,00100 NAIROBI TEL:+254 (20) 3862230/2 FAX:+254 (20) 3862231 EMAIL: henry@article19.org

________________________________________ From: Grace Githaiga [ggithaiga@hotmail.com] Sent: 11 January 2013 02:53 PM To: Henry Maina Cc: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: RE: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance

Thanks Henry.

I thought the simulcast period is over? Cant quite remember but there was a plan that had been released and CCK may have been following it considering the switch off was meant to happen last year.

Rgds GG

From: henry@article19.org Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 10:26:16 +0000 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com

D****

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Daniel On a light note...some may think or label you Pedantic but I completely feel you.. We must continuously strive to slay mediocrity in all aspects of our lives. Only then can we aspire to greatness. I also applaud my brother Wambua for being positive towards criticism for none of us is perfect. Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd +254 773/713 601113 "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb Sent from my iPad On Jan 15, 2013, at 8:50 AM, "Wambua, Christopher" <Wambua@cck.go.ke> wrote:

Daniel

Many thanks for taking your time to give us feedback on the typography, presentation and bibliography styles of our reports.

I shall share your comments, which you have made in good faith, with my colleagues at the Commission with a view to ensuring continual improvement.

Best regards

From: Daniel Waweru [mailto:daniel.waweru@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 2:26 AM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance

Hi Christopher,

Thanks for the report.

Why are your reports set in standard-issue government style? The typography is awful: sans font, 12pt or larger, which makes continuous reading quite difficult, especially online; the tables with vertical lines; inconsistent bibliography styles; and so on. Almost every serious rule of effective communication in print is violated here.

It's one thing to find this sort of thing from the Central Bank (or some other equally staid part of government) but one would expect you guys to put out reports that have a passing acquaintance with the canons of effective communication in print: with Tufte (http://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/books_vdqi) or Bringhurst (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elements_of_Typographic_Style) or Butterick (http://www.typographyforlawyers.com/?page_id=1300) or, indeed, with the sort of thing you can pick up by reading a LATEX manual.

For excellent recent government typography, the reports of New Zealand's Waitangi tribunal stand out, and I've attached one of them to this email. I'm sorry to pick on you --- and I have a spare copy of Bringhurst, if you'd like one -- but I read the report; my eyes bled; and it occurred to me that there was no real reason for you not to do better than this.

Regards,

Daniel Waweru, 26 Hai Phen, Bodoni, Caissa Superiore, Republic of San Serriffe

On 11 January 2013 16:33, Wambua, Christopher <Wambua@cck.go.ke> wrote: Grace/Listers,

Unless I am wrong, the report that you are referring to is available on our website at http://www.cck.go.ke/about/downloads/Transition_2007.pdf

Initially, the simulcast period was envisaged to end in June 2012. However due to delays in the deployment of signal distribution infrastructure and unavailability of set top boxes in adequate quantities in the local market, the simulcast period was extended to December 31st, 2012.

Best regards,

Christopher Wambua Manager/Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Division Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448, NAIROBI 00800 KENYA

From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Grace Githaiga Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 3:17 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke

Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance

Henry No, I do not have the plan. However, I remember reading about the end of the simulcast period either in the first report done by the committee appointed to look into the matter, or there must have been some information in the press advertised by the digital migration secretariat. Further, the report had talked of how the frequencies would be handled. There was clearly a plan in place. Maybe CCK could share it. Rgds GG

...

From: henry@article19.org To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: RE: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 12:07:57 +0000

Grace

Thanks. Do you have a copy of the plan. Does it make clear which frequencies are going to be set aside for TV and radio (public, private and community), security, aviation? Please share.

HENRY O. MAINA DIRECTOR ARTICLE 19 KENYA/EASTERN AFRICA P O BOX 2653,00100 NAIROBI TEL:+254 (20) 3862230/2 FAX:+254 (20) 3862231 EMAIL: henry@article19.org

________________________________________ From: Grace Githaiga [ggithaiga@hotmail.com] Sent: 11 January 2013 02:53 PM To: Henry Maina Cc: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: RE: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance

Thanks Henry.

I thought the simulcast period is over? Cant quite remember but there was a plan that had been released and CCK may have been following it considering the switch off was meant to happen last year.

Rgds GG

From: henry@article19.org Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 10:26:16 +0000 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com

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