Private data for jobs
Hello A colleague of mine has just been given several consent forms to sign from HR. They pertain to allowing a company called Peleza to investigate her background. Question: - Is this morally right that two companies can trade information (Private) for jobs? - Does it mean that this company literally buying private information about its employees to guarantee their retention?
Meshack This is nothing new. Background checks have been happening for many years. It's now coming to light because of the Data Privacy Act. Regards *Ali Hussein* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 9:48 AM meshack emakunat via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hello
A colleague of mine has just been given several consent forms to sign from HR. They pertain to allowing a company called Peleza to investigate her background.
Question:
1. Is this morally right that two companies can trade information (Private) for jobs? 2. Does it mean that this company literally buying private information about its employees to guarantee their retention?
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Meshack: I agree with Ali! It’s been happening and yes the Data Privacy Act is forcing employers to disclose and obtain consent! This isn’t a bad thing. In the US my second home even to get a tenancy agreement, background and CRB checks are mandatory, leave alone employment! Baraka, Maria On Friday, January 17, 2020, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Meshack
This is nothing new. Background checks have been happening for many years. It's now coming to light because of the Data Privacy Act.
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On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 9:48 AM meshack emakunat via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hello
A colleague of mine has just been given several consent forms to sign from HR. They pertain to allowing a company called Peleza to investigate her background.
Question:
1. Is this morally right that two companies can trade information (Private) for jobs? 2. Does it mean that this company literally buying private information about its employees to guarantee their retention?
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Hi Meshack, My feeling is that at least they have the decency to ask her consent. This is because these kinds of investigations are happening whether we have been told they will or not. And the other perspective is that upon employment, we give out as much information as possible obviously because well, we need the job and we don't at that point hold back any information. So I wouldn't perceive it as the Company buying information... On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 at 09:48, meshack emakunat via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hello
A colleague of mine has just been given several consent forms to sign from HR. They pertain to allowing a company called Peleza to investigate her background.
Question:
1. Is this morally right that two companies can trade information (Private) for jobs? 2. Does it mean that this company literally buying private information about its employees to guarantee their retention?
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[image: WhatsApp Image 2020-01-16 at 07.03.08.jpeg] Interesting Question Meshack and great Discussion points by Ali and Kathy. On that note, I think it would be paramount for In house counsels of such Companies to get a training on Data Protection and the GDPR. Lawyers Hub <https://lawyershub.org/> presents a CPD Accredited lecture on Wednesday the 22nd of January at 6pm. Topic: Data Protection Act & GDPR - Opportunities for Kenyan Lawyers. Evening Event at the Lawyers Hub next Wednesday 1 CPD point will be awarded. Costs is 2000/- Payment details on the poster. For inquiries call 0794739001 / 0794739003 Email: trainings@lawyershub.ke Looking forward to hearing to seeing and engaging KICTAnet Community on Wednesday! On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 10:30 AM Kathy Mwai via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Meshack,
My feeling is that at least they have the decency to ask her consent. This is because these kinds of investigations are happening whether we have been told they will or not. And the other perspective is that upon employment, we give out as much information as possible obviously because well, we need the job and we don't at that point hold back any information. So I wouldn't perceive it as the Company buying information...
On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 at 09:48, meshack emakunat via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hello
A colleague of mine has just been given several consent forms to sign from HR. They pertain to allowing a company called Peleza to investigate her background.
Question:
1. Is this morally right that two companies can trade information (Private) for jobs? 2. Does it mean that this company literally buying private information about its employees to guarantee their retention?
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This is a can of worms that the data protection act opened. On Friday, January 17, 2020, 10:29:09 AM GMT+3, Kathy Mwai <kathymwai@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Meshack, My feeling is that at least they have the decency to ask her consent. This is because these kinds of investigations are happening whether we have been told they will or not. And the other perspective is that upon employment, we give out as much information as possible obviously because well, we need the job and we don't at that point hold back any information. So I wouldn't perceive it as the Company buying information... On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 at 09:48, meshack emakunat via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Hello A colleague of mine has just been given several consent forms to sign from HR. They pertain to allowing a company called Peleza to investigate her background. Question: - Is this morally right that two companies can trade information (Private) for jobs? - Does it mean that this company literally buying private information about its employees to guarantee their retention? _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kathymwai%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Dream and Your Dreams Will Fall Short.....
The key thing is 'purpose'. Is the request for private data fit for purpose? If the answer is yes, then the request for consent is in order. With regard to employment, I want to believe the prospective employer has a right to check out your background. That's why CVs used to ask for 3 Referees (not sure if they still do ;-) Additionally, depending on the sensitivity of the post, you will be asked for CID Clearance, Credit Check, Anti-Corruption Reports, Tax Returns, Birth Cert, ID na kadhalika. If its a supermarket or a hospital or university asking for this data, you can sue them and win. But if its a prospective employer asking for this private data and you sue them, you are unlikely to win the case since their right to do due diligence to protect the company from hiring suspicious employees supersedes your right to hide your data. + you retain your right NOT to apply if you feel the data request is an overkill. walu. On Sunday, January 19, 2020, 04:13:13 PM GMT+3, meshack emakunat via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: This is a can of worms that the data protection act opened. On Friday, January 17, 2020, 10:29:09 AM GMT+3, Kathy Mwai <kathymwai@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Meshack, My feeling is that at least they have the decency to ask her consent. This is because these kinds of investigations are happening whether we have been told they will or not. And the other perspective is that upon employment, we give out as much information as possible obviously because well, we need the job and we don't at that point hold back any information. So I wouldn't perceive it as the Company buying information... On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 at 09:48, meshack emakunat via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Hello A colleague of mine has just been given several consent forms to sign from HR. They pertain to allowing a company called Peleza to investigate her background. Question: - Is this morally right that two companies can trade information (Private) for jobs? - Does it mean that this company literally buying private information about its employees to guarantee their retention? _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kathymwai%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Dream and Your Dreams Will Fall Short..... _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Meshack, Can you share the copies of the forms we peruse and advice ? Regards , Alvin On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 at 09:48, meshack emakunat via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hello
A colleague of mine has just been given several consent forms to sign from HR. They pertain to allowing a company called Peleza to investigate her background.
Question:
1. Is this morally right that two companies can trade information (Private) for jobs? 2. Does it mean that this company literally buying private information about its employees to guarantee their retention?
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