Who has any idea what's happening. The List is too silent, or are we affected by the connectivity break-down.? Seems Safaricom and Orange, are the only ones still standing on their feet as per the last check.. Anyone..? Harry
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:52, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
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Who has any idea what’s happening. The List is too silent, or are we affected****
by the connectivity break-down…?****
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Seems Safaricom and Orange, are the only ones still standing on their feet as****
per the last check..****
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Anyone..?
Acess Kenya have a nice message on the IVR (3600200) about the(ir) downtime:-) I guess anyone relying on KDN's and KPLC's Fiber links to MSA is affected. Slowly coming back up though - I mean Access Kenya seems up (somehow) from about 5 minutes ago (from the timestamp on this e-mail). Safaricom has been up ...... And just to add one more angle - When is the Nairobi-Garissa-MSA Fiber gonna be completed? Oh, maybe Al-Shabab cut the cable(s) to MSA. Taking it through Garissa as long as they've still declared war on KE could be another misnomer...sorry, mistake. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email.
I thought KDN had completed the Nbi-Garissa-Msa line, the one that was the subject of a dispute over payments between itself and Soliton Telmec? Mbuguss On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:52, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
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Who has any idea what’s happening. The List is too silent, or are we affected****
by the connectivity break-down…?****
** **
Seems Safaricom and Orange, are the only ones still standing on their feet as****
per the last check..****
** **
Anyone..?
Acess Kenya have a nice message on the IVR (3600200) about the(ir) downtime:-) I guess anyone relying on KDN's and KPLC's Fiber links to MSA is affected.
Slowly coming back up though - I mean Access Kenya seems up (somehow) from about 5 minutes ago (from the timestamp on this e-mail). Safaricom has been up ......
And just to add one more angle - When is the Nairobi-Garissa-MSA Fiber gonna be completed?
Oh, maybe Al-Shabab cut the cable(s) to MSA. Taking it through Garissa as long as they've still declared war on KE could be another misnomer...sorry, mistake.
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Orange is up and down too. On Mar 14, 2012 11:40 AM, "Harry Delano" <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
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Who has any idea what’s happening. The List is too silent, or are we affected****
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per the last check..****
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Harry Safaricom is far from standing on its feet! Last weekend their outgoing server was down for more than 48 hours, came back up and went down in a matter of hours! Internet has also been adversely affected since late last week with Safaricom. In fact Safaricom has been trailing in its data service from the rest even before the cable was cut. Suraj Shah On 3/14/12 10:52 AM, "Harry Delano" <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
Who has any idea what¹s happening. The List is too silent, or are we affected by the connectivity break-down?
Seems Safaricom and Orange, are the only ones still standing on their feet as per the last check..
Anyone..?
Harry
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@Harry, I have been using Safaricom WiMAX for VoIP in the office all these days, except yesterday when I had the worst of it and had to temporariy switch the service to AK, but I was back to it this morning when AK went down flat. I've also been using 3G from my dongle all these days, and it's been better than AK. Sorry, I can only compare Access Kenya (AK) and Safaricom because they are the ones I use, and I must say Safaricom has been better than AK! It's not been trailing! On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:08, Suraj Shah <suraj@surajshah.co.ke> wrote:
Harry
Safaricom is far from standing on its feet! Last weekend their outgoing server was down for more than 48 hours, came back up and went down in a matter of hours! Internet has also been adversely affected since late last week with Safaricom. In fact Safaricom has been trailing in its data service from the rest even before the cable was cut.
Suraj Shah
On 3/14/12 10:52 AM, "Harry Delano" <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
Who has any idea what’s happening. The List is too silent, or are we affected by the connectivity break-down…?
Seems Safaricom and Orange, are the only ones still standing on their feet as per the last check..
Anyone..?
Harry
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I have been blacked out for a good 2 days now, I have clients that have simply expressed reservations in doing business with my organization and I am sure many in this forum are equally affected..this needs to be addressed once and for all. Best Regards, Edwin From: kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Suraj Shah Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:08 PM To: Edwin Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] ISP Mayhem Harry Safaricom is far from standing on its feet! Last weekend their outgoing server was down for more than 48 hours, came back up and went down in a matter of hours! Internet has also been adversely affected since late last week with Safaricom. In fact Safaricom has been trailing in its data service from the rest even before the cable was cut. Suraj Shah On 3/14/12 10:52 AM, "Harry Delano" <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote: Who has any idea what's happening. The List is too silent, or are we affected by the connectivity break-down.? Seems Safaricom and Orange, are the only ones still standing on their feet as per the last check.. Anyone..? Harry _____ _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/suraj%40surajshah.co.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4868 - Release Date: 03/13/12
Zuku, TKL and Airtel too were down and seem partially restored - word from Zuku is that a link between NBO and MSA was affected. On 14 March 2012 10:52, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
Who has any idea what’s happening. The List is too silent, or are we affected
by the connectivity break-down…?
Seems Safaricom and Orange, are the only ones still standing on their feet as
per the last check..
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And I think we need more diversity and more redundancy on the terrestrial back bone - if two backhaul links between NBO and MSA go down, its probably worse than one submarine cable cut. On 14 March 2012 12:28, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com> wrote:
Zuku, TKL and Airtel too were down and seem partially restored - word from Zuku is that a link between NBO and MSA was affected.
On 14 March 2012 10:52, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
Who has any idea what’s happening. The List is too silent, or are we affected
by the connectivity break-down…?
Seems Safaricom and Orange, are the only ones still standing on their feet as
per the last check..
Anyone..?
Harry
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KDN, TELKOM KENYA, KPLC CABLE CUTS DOWN INTERNET IN KENYA http://nairobitech.blogspot.com/2012/03/kdn-telkom-kenya-kplc-cable-cuts-dow... On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com> wrote:
And I think we need more diversity and more redundancy on the terrestrial back bone - if two backhaul links between NBO and MSA go down, its probably worse than one submarine cable cut.
On 14 March 2012 12:28, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com> wrote:
Zuku, TKL and Airtel too were down and seem partially restored - word from Zuku is that a link between NBO and MSA was affected.
On 14 March 2012 10:52, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
Who has any idea what’s happening. The List is too silent, or are we affected
by the connectivity break-down…?
Seems Safaricom and Orange, are the only ones still standing on their feet as
per the last check..
Anyone..?
Harry
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I think having a bill to impose penalties on contractors would only offer redress to the infrastructure owners and only treat the symptoms rather than the causes. If anything the buck should stop with authorities in charge of urban planning and not the contractor who, IMHO might be working in very unclear conditions or lacking guidance or a framework. Lets think back to the demolition (and wastage) of Nakumatt on Thika Road, the demolition of newly built units for the police near Moi Avenue, Syokimau, etc - none of those structures should have been put up in the first place. As long as these underlying planning issues are not sorted out, ICT development will continue to suffer. Conversely this is why Konza is a good idea - start a city from scratch - sewers, power lines, water, fibre, etc - with everything in its place and taking into account modern urban planning. Otherwise all we are doing is putting new wine in old wine skins. On 14 March 2012 12:53, James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
KDN, TELKOM KENYA, KPLC CABLE CUTS DOWN INTERNET IN KENYA
http://nairobitech.blogspot.com/2012/03/kdn-telkom-kenya-kplc-cable-cuts-dow...
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com> wrote:
And I think we need more diversity and more redundancy on the terrestrial back bone - if two backhaul links between NBO and MSA go down, its probably worse than one submarine cable cut.
On 14 March 2012 12:28, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com> wrote:
Zuku, TKL and Airtel too were down and seem partially restored - word from Zuku is that a link between NBO and MSA was affected.
On 14 March 2012 10:52, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
Who has any idea what’s happening. The List is too silent, or are we affected
by the connectivity break-down…?
Seems Safaricom and Orange, are the only ones still standing on their feet as
per the last check..
Anyone..?
Harry
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pple opught to take this cable cuts seriously, company i work for pays million per week to access kenya for bandwidth to stream video and more millions to orange to call international for about two hours every evening. we have been down for the last two weeks, having to minimize use of bandwidth so eery one else can have a slice.... its not only irritating, but even the tax man will be shocked at how the revenue numbers at the two companies dip for that one month period (last two weeks and two next till they sought out the mess.) Meanwhile some of the worlds deepest pockets (yes right here in kenya) get to keep their dollars rather than give our economy that much needed infusion. seriously. Now there is talk of getting dedicated satellite rather than going through local ISP( we are quasi govt). This would mean some local guyz will lose out big time. Plus where is damage control PR, all that jazz? Then to cap it all, the terrsetrial cable cuts jana and the conmtinued outage today. puhliz/////
First of all,let me give credit where it is due.As I have said before on this list,Safaricom has people who know what they are doing!If you ask me,they are the true Pride of Kenya!Do you see all the complaints you've had with your ISPs since yesterday?Well,let us just say they are rumours to me - I have only heard about them but I've not seen any of them - the only time I was down is when I switched off my devices to take a nap! :) Isn't it funny that we could describe ISPs by the negative things we've come to experience about them?Quickly,fill in the answers to the questions below to see what I'm talking about. 1.0 Which ISP has a customer care that never picks up calls and rarely resolves issues? ___________________ 2.0 Which ISP is known to over-promise and under-deliver? _____________________ 3.0 ISP x launches products into the market and pulls them off even before you know it.The name of this ISP is? _______________ Do not even think about the Government,if there is only one ISP/MNO who is familiar with such a term as 'redundancy' then the problem is bigger than we thought initially!Every time you bring this up they will give you long theories based on Cost/Benefit analyses and ROI.Then how come someone else is doing it?Is it that these companies do not understand the effects they have on people's businesses and organisations or are they just being careless? If you and I know of these problems then it is safe to assume the ISPs are aware as well.I keep dreaming of those days when ISPs will not just be interested in making profits but also in giving good services! On 14 March 2012 13:18, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com> wrote:
I think having a bill to impose penalties on contractors would only offer redress to the infrastructure owners and only treat the symptoms rather than the causes. If anything the buck should stop with authorities in charge of urban planning and not the contractor who, IMHO might be working in very unclear conditions or lacking guidance or a framework.
Lets think back to the demolition (and wastage) of Nakumatt on Thika Road, the demolition of newly built units for the police near Moi Avenue, Syokimau, etc - none of those structures should have been put up in the first place.
As long as these underlying planning issues are not sorted out, ICT development will continue to suffer. Conversely this is why Konza is a good idea - start a city from scratch - sewers, power lines, water, fibre, etc - with everything in its place and taking into account modern urban planning. Otherwise all we are doing is putting new wine in old wine skins.
On 14 March 2012 12:53, James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
KDN, TELKOM KENYA, KPLC CABLE CUTS DOWN INTERNET IN KENYA
http://nairobitech.blogspot.com/2012/03/kdn-telkom-kenya-kplc-cable-cuts-dow...
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com>
And I think we need more diversity and more redundancy on the terrestrial back bone - if two backhaul links between NBO and MSA go down, its probably worse than one submarine cable cut.
On 14 March 2012 12:28, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com> wrote:
Zuku, TKL and Airtel too were down and seem partially restored - word from Zuku is that a link between NBO and MSA was affected.
On 14 March 2012 10:52, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
Who has any idea what’s happening. The List is too silent, or are we affected
by the connectivity break-down…?
Seems Safaricom and Orange, are the only ones still standing on their
feet
as
per the last check..
Anyone..?
Harry
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granted u r right on many counts, but one of my worst experiences was last year when my then employer switch from access kenya to safcom allegedly for more bandwidth. we had such down time for months we actually called up the CEO himself one day to ask him for some dedication from his staff towards sorting out the issue, well they were sorted out but after all that teeth gnashing....
That must have been a very nasty experience!In their defense,judging by the ratio of such complaints to their number of clients,I would call this an isolated case which cannot be compared to the many I've heard(and keep hearing) about other smaller ISPs! Nonetheless,the issue is not the number of complaints but rather the resilience of these ISP's networks.We are increasingly becoming a nation that is dependent on the internet,think KRA and KNEC.The question remains whether we can trust these companies to maintain access at all times to these services that we need. On 14 March 2012 15:10, peter wakaba <peterwakaba@gmail.com> wrote:
granted u r right on many counts, but one of my worst experiences was last year when my then employer switch from access kenya to safcom allegedly for more bandwidth. we had such down time for months we actually called up the CEO himself one day to ask him for some dedication from his staff towards sorting out the issue, well they were sorted out but after all that teeth gnashing....
-- Kind Regards, Moses Muya.
Hi Moses, Like you, I went green long ago and thus I have no grounds for throwing a tantrum about my ISP. Safaricom listens and acts unlike those who spend their resources justifying why they cannot provide reliable services. Regards PS. If you pay peanuts you will definitely will get monkeys. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Moses Muya <mouzmuyer@gmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, 14 March 2012, 15:00 Subject: Re: [kictanet] ISP Mayhem First of all,let me give credit where it is due.As I have said before on this list,Safaricom has people who know what they are doing!If you ask me,they are the true Pride of Kenya!Do you see all the complaints you've had with your ISPs since yesterday?Well,let us just say they are rumours to me - I have only heard about them but I've not seen any of them - the only time I was down is when I switched off my devices to take a nap! :) Isn't it funny that we could describe ISPs by the negative things we've come to experience about them?Quickly,fill in the answers to the questions below to see what I'm talking about. 1.0 Which ISP has a customer care that never picks up calls and rarely resolves issues? ___________________ 2.0 Which ISP is known to over-promise and under-deliver? _____________________ 3.0 ISP x launches products into the market and pulls them off even before you know it.The name of this ISP is? _______________ Do not even think about the Government,if there is only one ISP/MNO who is familiar with such a term as 'redundancy' then the problem is bigger than we thought initially!Every time you bring this up they will give you long theories based on Cost/Benefit analyses and ROI.Then how come someone else is doing it?Is it that these companies do not understand the effects they have on people's businesses and organisations or are they just being careless? If you and I know of these problems then it is safe to assume the ISPs are aware as well.I keep dreaming of those days when ISPs will not just be interested in making profits but also in giving good services! On 14 March 2012 13:18, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com> wrote: I think having a bill to impose penalties on contractors would only
offer redress to the infrastructure owners and only treat the symptoms rather than the causes. If anything the buck should stop with authorities in charge of urban planning and not the contractor who, IMHO might be working in very unclear conditions or lacking guidance or a framework.
Lets think back to the demolition (and wastage) of Nakumatt on Thika Road, the demolition of newly built units for the police near Moi Avenue, Syokimau, etc - none of those structures should have been put up in the first place.
As long as these underlying planning issues are not sorted out, ICT development will continue to suffer. Conversely this is why Konza is a good idea - start a city from scratch - sewers, power lines, water, fibre, etc - with everything in its place and taking into account modern urban planning. Otherwise all we are doing is putting new wine in old wine skins.
On 14 March 2012 12:53, James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
KDN, TELKOM KENYA, KPLC CABLE CUTS DOWN INTERNET IN KENYA
http://nairobitech.blogspot.com/2012/03/kdn-telkom-kenya-kplc-cable-cuts-dow...
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com> wrote:
And I think we need more diversity and more redundancy on the terrestrial back bone - if two backhaul links between NBO and MSA go down, its probably worse than one submarine cable cut.
On 14 March 2012 12:28, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com> wrote:
Zuku, TKL and Airtel too were down and seem partially restored - word from Zuku is that a link between NBO and MSA was affected.
On 14 March 2012 10:52, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
Who has any idea what’s happening. The List is too silent, or are we affected
by the connectivity break-down…?
Seems Safaricom and Orange, are the only ones still standing on their feet as
per the last check..
Anyone..?
Harry
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I'm leaning on the other side. If I were running a business reliant on connectivity between Nairobi and Mombasa, I'd insist on an sla with clear penalties. This is a network design issue too and as far as my business would be concerned I'd get a rebate. However: Most customers DO NOT WANT to PAY for this level of service. The ones who pay are most likely up at least as far as one of the service providers I know is concerned. The other issue to look at is for instance your services like DNS. Users in Mombasa should never be affected by a finer cut between NBI and Msa. But most dns servers are in NBI. Downtime!. Same goes for mail servers etc. My point is this is a design issue, product development issue, clients not asking the right questions issue etc as much as it is a policy issue. Gitau Sent from my iPad On 14 Mar 2012, at 13:18, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com> wrote:
I think having a bill to impose penalties on contractors would only offer redress to the infrastructure owners and only treat the symptoms rather than the causes. If anything the buck should stop with authorities in charge of urban planning and not the contractor who, IMHO might be working in very unclear conditions or lacking guidance or a framework.
Lets think back to the demolition (and wastage) of Nakumatt on Thika Road, the demolition of newly built units for the police near Moi Avenue, Syokimau, etc - none of those structures should have been put up in the first place.
As long as these underlying planning issues are not sorted out, ICT development will continue to suffer. Conversely this is why Konza is a good idea - start a city from scratch - sewers, power lines, water, fibre, etc - with everything in its place and taking into account modern urban planning. Otherwise all we are doing is putting new wine in old wine skins.
On 14 March 2012 12:53, James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
KDN, TELKOM KENYA, KPLC CABLE CUTS DOWN INTERNET IN KENYA
http://nairobitech.blogspot.com/2012/03/kdn-telkom-kenya-kplc-cable-cuts-dow...
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com> wrote:
And I think we need more diversity and more redundancy on the terrestrial back bone - if two backhaul links between NBO and MSA go down, its probably worse than one submarine cable cut.
On 14 March 2012 12:28, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com> wrote:
Zuku, TKL and Airtel too were down and seem partially restored - word from Zuku is that a link between NBO and MSA was affected.
On 14 March 2012 10:52, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
Who has any idea what’s happening. The List is too silent, or are we affected
by the connectivity break-down…?
Seems Safaricom and Orange, are the only ones still standing on their feet as
per the last check..
Anyone..?
Harry
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Many thanks, all.. Looks we all crippled now.., right..? Time to consider some of this infrastructure as strategic to National security.. Bw. PS...? Harry -----Original Message----- From: Francis Hook [mailto:francis.hook@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:31 PM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] ISP Mayhem And I think we need more diversity and more redundancy on the terrestrial back bone - if two backhaul links between NBO and MSA go down, its probably worse than one submarine cable cut. On 14 March 2012 12:28, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com> wrote:
Zuku, TKL and Airtel too were down and seem partially restored - word from Zuku is that a link between NBO and MSA was affected.
On 14 March 2012 10:52, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
Who has any idea whats happening. The List is too silent, or are we affected
by the connectivity break-down ?
Seems Safaricom and Orange, are the only ones still standing on their
feet
as
per the last check..
Anyone..?
Harry
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mine was orange 3G+ going down, their DNS however was what was at fault, so when i set google,s 8.8.8.8 it worked like a charm. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
Many thanks, all..
Looks we all crippled now.., right..? Time to consider some of this infrastructure as strategic to National security..
Bw. PS...?
Harry
-----Original Message----- From: Francis Hook [mailto:francis.hook@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:31 PM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] ISP Mayhem
And I think we need more diversity and more redundancy on the terrestrial back bone - if two backhaul links between NBO and MSA go down, its probably worse than one submarine cable cut.
On 14 March 2012 12:28, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com> wrote:
Zuku, TKL and Airtel too were down and seem partially restored - word from Zuku is that a link between NBO and MSA was affected.
On 14 March 2012 10:52, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
Who has any idea what’s happening. The List is too silent, or are we affected
by the connectivity break-down…?
Seems Safaricom and Orange, are the only ones still standing on their
feet
as
per the last check..
Anyone..?
Harry
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......i would be slow to make this a public policy challenge and rather beg the question, "what happened to redundancy in network planning?" Eric here On 14 Mar 2012, at 10:00, Harry Delano wrote:
Many thanks, all..
Looks we all crippled now.., right..? Time to consider some of this infrastructure as strategic to National security..
Bw. PS...?
Harry
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And I think we need more diversity and more redundancy on the terrestrial back bone - if two backhaul links between NBO and MSA go down, its probably worse than one submarine cable cut.
On 14 March 2012 12:28, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com> wrote:
Zuku, TKL and Airtel too were down and seem partially restored - word from Zuku is that a link between NBO and MSA was affected.
On 14 March 2012 10:52, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
Who has any idea what’s happening. The List is too silent, or are we affected
by the connectivity break-down…?
Seems Safaricom and Orange, are the only ones still standing on their
feet
as
per the last check..
Anyone..?
Harry
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Definitely a design issue. That and something that should be discussed between customers and their service providers. Gitau Sent from my iPad On 14 Mar 2012, at 18:31, "Eric M.K Osiakwan" <emko@internetresearch.com.gh> wrote:
......i would be slow to make this a public policy challenge and rather beg the question, "what happened to redundancy in network planning?"
Eric here
On 14 Mar 2012, at 10:00, Harry Delano wrote:
Many thanks, all..
Looks we all crippled now.., right..? Time to consider some of this infrastructure as strategic to National security..
Bw. PS...?
Harry
-----Original Message----- From: Francis Hook [mailto:francis.hook@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:31 PM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] ISP Mayhem
And I think we need more diversity and more redundancy on the terrestrial back bone - if two backhaul links between NBO and MSA go down, its probably worse than one submarine cable cut.
On 14 March 2012 12:28, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com> wrote:
Zuku, TKL and Airtel too were down and seem partially restored - word from Zuku is that a link between NBO and MSA was affected.
On 14 March 2012 10:52, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
Who has any idea what’s happening. The List is too silent, or are we affected
by the connectivity break-down…?
Seems Safaricom and Orange, are the only ones still standing on their
feet
as
per the last check..
Anyone..?
Harry
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Eric, I concur on one hand, but disagree on the other. In all practicality none of the providers will willingly implement costly redundancy while considerations such as cost outlay, ROI, etc heavily weigh in on decisions. Your guess could be as good as mine,- that unless something gives, we will be down this road again.. It is also possible for providers to work out prior inter-party agreements among themselves, to build redundancy across their networks. For instance, when provider A is down, and provider B is up, a prior agreement already in place should allow provider A to transit through B's N/w at short notice without much haggling. They need to sit down and talk. The regulator must step in here and make it a public policy that makes it mandatory for service providers to build redundancy into their networks. This is for the simple reason that, as a critical "Economic" lifeline for the country, and at the same time a "service delivery" vehicle for crucial services on which an entire nation depends, this infrastructure is of strategic importance and we cannot afford such outages in future. I insist that nationwide internet connectivity is strategic to our national security at this point, and must be treated as such. It's time to get back to the drawing table and come up with relevant guidelines. We need to wake up and realize the internet of a decade ago, when most of the ISP's sprang up has transformed into something more monumental that cannot be handled casually. We better work on this, as we deal with the upcoming project at Konza, lest it becomes self-contained. Over to the policy makers.. Harry From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Eric M.K Osiakwan Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 6:31 PM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] ISP Mayhem ......i would be slow to make this a public policy challenge and rather beg the question, "what happened to redundancy in network planning?" Eric here On 14 Mar 2012, at 10:00, Harry Delano wrote: Many thanks, all.. Looks we all crippled now.., right..? Time to consider some of this infrastructure as strategic to National security.. Bw. PS...? Harry -----Original Message----- From: Francis Hook [mailto:francis.hook@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:31 PM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] ISP Mayhem And I think we need more diversity and more redundancy on the terrestrial back bone - if two backhaul links between NBO and MSA go down, its probably worse than one submarine cable cut. On 14 March 2012 12:28, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com> wrote: Zuku, TKL and Airtel too were down and seem partially restored - word from Zuku is that a link between NBO and MSA was affected. On 14 March 2012 10:52, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote: Who has any idea what's happening. The List is too silent, or are we affected by the connectivity break-down.? Seems Safaricom and Orange, are the only ones still standing on their feet as per the last check.. Anyone..? 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Hi, Safaricom is up and running with a few expected hiccups, why don't we just ask them how they have been able to keep their clients operational even with the cutting of all fibre cables. Redundancy is a cost and needs to be met by someone, so Eric the question should be "how much redundancy are you willing to pay for?" Why hasn't anyone asked where exactly is this point where all the cables from Nairobi to Mombasa converge? The Teams & EASSy cables where cut by an anchor because they run parallel and next to each other, assuming they are not one and the same cable. Regards PS. Just incase my intentions are misunderstood I would like to make it clear that this is not a paid post but even if it was would I really confirm it, hmmmm. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Eric M.K Osiakwan <emko@internetresearch.com.gh> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, 14 March 2012, 18:31 Subject: Re: [kictanet] ISP Mayhem ......i would be slow to make this a public policy challenge and rather beg the question, "what happened to redundancy in network planning?" Eric here On 14 Mar 2012, at 10:00, Harry Delano wrote: Many thanks, all..
Looks we all crippled now.., right..? Time to consider some of this infrastructure as strategic to National security..
Bw. PS...?
Harry
-----Original Message----- From: Francis Hook [mailto:francis.hook@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:31 PM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] ISP Mayhem
And I think we need more diversity and more redundancy on the terrestrial back bone - if two backhaul links between NBO and MSA go down, its probably worse than one submarine cable cut.
On 14 March 2012 12:28, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com> wrote:
Zuku, TKL and Airtel too were down and seem partially restored - word
from Zuku is that a link between NBO and MSA was affected.
On 14 March 2012 10:52, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
Who has any idea what’s happening. The List is too silent, or are we
affected
by the connectivity break-down…?
Seems Safaricom and Orange, are the only ones still standing on their
feet
as
per the last check..
Anyone..?
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Yawe, Paid or not, Safaricom has not been an exception in this mess…my organization and several others in the BPO/ITES industry whose lion’s share of clients are foreign, will find it a an uphill task in the foreseeable future convincing our clients that we are a safe bet for their business. We had just overcome this issue when the fiber landed ( I remember endless meetings to explain why we had latencies of over 2-3000ms just a couple of years ago), and now this!. The vandalism bill is long overdue and should be enacted asap among other measures to sort this out once and for all. Best Regards, Edwin From: kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of robert yawe Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:26 AM To: Edwin Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] ISP Mayhem Hi, Safaricom is up and running with a few expected hiccups, why don't we just ask them how they have been able to keep their clients operational even with the cutting of all fibre cables. Redundancy is a cost and needs to be met by someone, so Eric the question should be "how much redundancy are you willing to pay for?" Why hasn't anyone asked where exactly is this point where all the cables from Nairobi to Mombasa converge? The Teams & EASSy cables where cut by an anchor because they run parallel and next to each other, assuming they are not one and the same cable. Regards PS. Just incase my intentions are misunderstood I would like to make it clear that this is not a paid post but even if it was would I really confirm it, hmmmm. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 _____ From: Eric M.K Osiakwan <emko@internetresearch.com.gh> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, 14 March 2012, 18:31 Subject: Re: [kictanet] ISP Mayhem ......i would be slow to make this a public policy challenge and rather beg the question, "what happened to redundancy in network planning?" Eric here On 14 Mar 2012, at 10:00, Harry Delano wrote: Many thanks, all.. Looks we all crippled now.., right..? Time to consider some of this infrastructure as strategic to National security.. Bw. PS...? Harry -----Original Message----- From: Francis Hook [mailto:francis.hook@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:31 PM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] ISP Mayhem And I think we need more diversity and more redundancy on the terrestrial back bone - if two backhaul links between NBO and MSA go down, its probably worse than one submarine cable cut. On 14 March 2012 12:28, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com> wrote: Zuku, TKL and Airtel too were down and seem partially restored - word from Zuku is that a link between NBO and MSA was affected. On 14 March 2012 10:52, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote: Who has any idea what’s happening. The List is too silent, or are we affected by the connectivity break-down…? Seems Safaricom and Orange, are the only ones still standing on their feet as per the last check.. Anyone..? 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It looks like we are just about to turn this discussion into whether Safaricom is good or not.If we do that,we will most definitely miss the point of it.My allegiance,and I believe that of Yawe,is NOT to Safaricom but to services that work.If Safaricom is the company giving these services at the moment,we will be happy to subscribe to their services! Yesterday when everyone was complaining about being offline ,the organisations using their services were up and running! Do they suffer outages?Of course they do!As somebody said ,they do not run equipment from heaven! The 'vandalism bill' is long overdue if you ask me and so is good network design from these service providers! Policies alone will not make companies great,their commitment to providing good services will. If a company is willing to invest billions in developing infrastructure but is not willing to spend a couple of millions in safeguarding the same,they have their priorities/policies wrong! N.B : This is not a paid post,just a post by a happy client. On 15 March 2012 11:33, Edwin Onchari <eonchari@lynxbits.com> wrote:
Yawe,****
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Paid or not, Safaricom has not been an exception in this mess…my organization and several others in the BPO/ITES industry whose lion’s share of clients are foreign, will find it a an uphill task in the foreseeable future convincing our clients that we are a safe bet for their business. We had just overcome this issue when the fiber landed ( I remember endless meetings to explain why we had latencies of over 2-3000ms just a couple of years ago), and now this!. The vandalism bill is long overdue and should be enacted asap among other measures to sort this out once and for all.****
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Best Regards,****
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*From:* kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke[mailto: kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *robert yawe *Sent:* Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:26 AM *To:* Edwin
*Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] ISP Mayhem****
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Hi,****
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Safaricom is up and running with a few expected hiccups, why don't we just ask them how they have been able to keep their clients operational even with the cutting of all fibre cables.****
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Redundancy is a cost and needs to be met by someone, so Eric the question should be "how much redundancy are you willing to pay for?"****
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Why hasn't anyone asked where exactly is this point where all the cables from Nairobi to Mombasa converge? The Teams & EASSy cables where cut by an anchor because they run parallel and next to each other, assuming they are not one and the same cable.****
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Regards****
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PS. Just incase my intentions are misunderstood I would like to make it clear that this is not a paid post but even if it was would I really confirm it, hmmmm.****
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Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696**** ------------------------------
*From:* Eric M.K Osiakwan <emko@internetresearch.com.gh> *To:* robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Wednesday, 14 March 2012, 18:31 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] ISP Mayhem****
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......i would be slow to make this a public policy challenge and rather beg the question, "what happened to redundancy in network planning?"****
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Eric here****
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On 14 Mar 2012, at 10:00, Harry Delano wrote:****
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Many thanks, all..
Looks we all crippled now.., right..? Time to consider some of this infrastructure as strategic to National security..
Bw. PS...?
Harry
-----Original Message----- From: Francis Hook [mailto:francis.hook@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:31 PM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] ISP Mayhem
And I think we need more diversity and more redundancy on the terrestrial back bone - if two backhaul links between NBO and MSA go down, its probably worse than one submarine cable cut.
On 14 March 2012 12:28, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com> wrote:
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Zuku, TKL and Airtel too were down and seem partially restored - word****
from Zuku is that a link between NBO and MSA was affected.****
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Who has any idea what’s happening. The List is too silent, or are we****
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Seems Safaricom and Orange, are the only ones still standing on their****
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Edwin, As I asked how much extra are you willing to pay for redundancy? You where laughing all the way to the bank from the large profits you where making by having cheap connectivity now its time to pay the price. If you where on a life support system would you want it connected directly to the KPLC supply for a price X or to a N+2 supply for a price of 1.2of X? We need to learn how to concentrate on how strengths and outsource your non-core activities, your business is largely dependent on Internet connectivity then make sure that you hand over the responsibility for someone who can deliver 99.9% uptime. 140Friday kept saying how we need to give local businesses large projects yet this outages have literally separated the "boys from the men", the price game has and will never be sustainable. If I was you I would cancel the contract with your current provider and move to someone who understands and appreciates your needs and also has the muscle to deliver on an SLA and if they cannot they should be big enough to be sued. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Edwin Onchari <eonchari@lynxbits.com> To: 'robert yawe' <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, 15 March 2012, 11:33 Subject: RE: [kictanet] ISP Mayhem Yawe, Paid or not, Safaricom has not been an exception in this mess…my organization and several others in the BPO/ITES industry whose lion’s share of clients are foreign, will find it a an uphill task in the foreseeable future convincing our clients that we are a safe bet for their business. We had just overcome this issue when the fiber landed ( I remember endless meetings to explain why we had latencies of over 2-3000ms just a couple of years ago), and now this!. The vandalism bill is long overdue and should be enacted asap among other measures to sort this out once and for all. Best Regards, Edwin From:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of robert yawe Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:26 AM To: Edwin Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] ISP Mayhem Hi, Safaricom is up and running with a few expected hiccups, why don't we just ask them how they have been able to keep their clients operational even with the cutting of all fibre cables. Redundancy is a cost and needs to be met by someone, so Eric the question should be "how much redundancy are you willing to pay for?" Why hasn't anyone asked where exactly is this point where all the cables from Nairobi to Mombasa converge? The Teams & EASSy cables where cut by an anchor because they run parallel and next to each other, assuming they are not one and the same cable. Regards PS. Just incase my intentions are misunderstood I would like to make it clear that this is not a paid post but even if it was would I really confirm it, hmmmm. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From:Eric M.K Osiakwan <emko@internetresearch.com.gh> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, 14 March 2012, 18:31 Subject: Re: [kictanet] ISP Mayhem ......i would be slow to make this a public policy challenge and rather beg the question, "what happened to redundancy in network planning?" Eric here On 14 Mar 2012, at 10:00, Harry Delano wrote: Many thanks, all.. Looks we all crippled now.., right..? Time to consider some of this infrastructure as strategic to National security.. Bw. PS...? Harry -----Original Message----- From: Francis Hook [mailto:francis.hook@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:31 PM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] ISP Mayhem And I think we need more diversity and more redundancy on the terrestrial back bone - if two backhaul links between NBO and MSA go down, its probably worse than one submarine cable cut. On 14 March 2012 12:28, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com> wrote: Zuku, TKL and Airtel too were down and seem partially restored - word from Zuku is that a link between NBO and MSA was affected. On 14 March 2012 10:52, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote: Who has any idea what’s happening. The List is too silent, or are we affected by the connectivity break-down…? Seems Safaricom and Orange, are the only ones still standing on their feet as per the last check.. Anyone..? Harry _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/francis.hook%40gmail.co m The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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Yawe, I am a strong believer in outsourcing non-core services…heck that is why I am in business! Redundancy should not always come with an insanely high price tag; and NO…that does not always translate to profits, there are other variables that come into play such as employee appraisals to keep the best in the organization with higher pay and benefits, transferring the cost savings to your clients (this has been the selling point since the cables landed), business growth, investment in newer technologies, etc. On the issue of being bigger and sue-able; all service providers that I know of in Kenya, Safaricom & KPLC included, never embed in their SLAs any clause or semblance thereof for revenue loss compensation, therefore, that would be an undertaking in futility. I am non-the-less a die hard, strong supporter of small businesses being given equal business (in government and private sector) commensurate with their demonstrated capacity to deliver! Best Regards, Edwin From: kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of robert yawe Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 12:30 PM To: Edwin Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: Re: [kictanet] ISP Mayhem Edwin, As I asked how much extra are you willing to pay for redundancy? You where laughing all the way to the bank from the large profits you where making by having cheap connectivity now its time to pay the price. If you where on a life support system would you want it connected directly to the KPLC supply for a price X or to a N+2 supply for a price of 1.2of X? We need to learn how to concentrate on how strengths and outsource your non-core activities, your business is largely dependent on Internet connectivity then make sure that you hand over the responsibility for someone who can deliver 99.9% uptime. 140Friday kept saying how we need to give local businesses large projects yet this outages have literally separated the "boys from the men", the price game has and will never be sustainable. If I was you I would cancel the contract with your current provider and move to someone who understands and appreciates your needs and also has the muscle to deliver on an SLA and if they cannot they should be big enough to be sued. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 _____ From: Edwin Onchari <eonchari@lynxbits.com> To: 'robert yawe' <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, 15 March 2012, 11:33 Subject: RE: [kictanet] ISP Mayhem Yawe, Paid or not, Safaricom has not been an exception in this mess…my organization and several others in the BPO/ITES industry whose lion’s share of clients are foreign, will find it a an uphill task in the foreseeable future convincing our clients that we are a safe bet for their business. We had just overcome this issue when the fiber landed ( I remember endless meetings to explain why we had latencies of over 2-3000ms just a couple of years ago), and now this!. The vandalism bill is long overdue and should be enacted asap among other measures to sort this out once and for all. Best Regards, Edwin From: kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of robert yawe Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:26 AM To: Edwin Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] ISP Mayhem Hi, Safaricom is up and running with a few expected hiccups, why don't we just ask them how they have been able to keep their clients operational even with the cutting of all fibre cables. Redundancy is a cost and needs to be met by someone, so Eric the question should be "how much redundancy are you willing to pay for?" Why hasn't anyone asked where exactly is this point where all the cables from Nairobi to Mombasa converge? The Teams & EASSy cables where cut by an anchor because they run parallel and next to each other, assuming they are not one and the same cable. Regards PS. Just incase my intentions are misunderstood I would like to make it clear that this is not a paid post but even if it was would I really confirm it, hmmmm. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 _____ From: Eric M.K Osiakwan <emko@internetresearch.com.gh> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, 14 March 2012, 18:31 Subject: Re: [kictanet] ISP Mayhem ......i would be slow to make this a public policy challenge and rather beg the question, "what happened to redundancy in network planning?" Eric here On 14 Mar 2012, at 10:00, Harry Delano wrote: Many thanks, all.. Looks we all crippled now.., right..? Time to consider some of this infrastructure as strategic to National security.. Bw. PS...? Harry -----Original Message----- From: Francis Hook [mailto:francis.hook@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:31 PM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] ISP Mayhem And I think we need more diversity and more redundancy on the terrestrial back bone - if two backhaul links between NBO and MSA go down, its probably worse than one submarine cable cut. On 14 March 2012 12:28, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com> wrote: Zuku, TKL and Airtel too were down and seem partially restored - word from Zuku is that a link between NBO and MSA was affected. On 14 March 2012 10:52, Harry Delano <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote: Who has any idea what’s happening. The List is too silent, or are we affected by the connectivity break-down…? Seems Safaricom and Orange, are the only ones still standing on their feet as per the last check.. Anyone..? Harry _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/francis.hook%40gmail.co m The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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participants (13)
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Collins Areba -
Edwin Onchari -
Eric M.K Osiakwan -
Francis Hook -
Harry Delano -
James Mbugua -
John Gitau -
Moses Muya -
Odhiambo Washington -
peter wakaba -
robert yawe -
S.M. Muraya -
Suraj Shah