Warigia Better still how about CCK and ICT Board use opendata to map this out? Still..I find it abit disconcerting that CCK has been awfully quiet on the issue of Universal Access... Anyone at CCK? Regards Ali Hussein On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Warigia Bowman <[email protected]> wrote:

It would be nice to see an accounting of the Pasha funds. I would also like to see which pashas are getting what, and see a map of pashas established, funded, and proposed, but not yet funded. That being said, I can make us that map, if I can extract the data out of the relevant players.

Yours, Rigia

On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Ali Hussein <[email protected]> wrote:

...

Grace & all

During the online discussions that preceded the Kenya IGF we raised the issue of Transparency in the allocation and usage of funds on Universal Access by the CCK.

Having read the story on the challenges facing Pasha Centres is there a case for Partnership between CCK and the ICT Board? Or am I being naive?

Ali Hussein

+254 773/713 601113

Sent from my iPhone®

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Crystal At today's EAIGF I raised the issue of Universal Access and the linkages that may be created with the Pasha Centres. The Good Doctor (Ndemo) was very forthcoming in elaborating on this point and raised another issue that we all must address. The issue of content.Local Content. In my humble opinion there must be a mix of private and public partnership for this noble project to work. As much as I am a business person and driven by the profit motive we must also appreciate at all times the role Government and NGOs play. On the issue of the Universal Access Fund I wasnt really satisfied with the answer I got from Dr.Ndemo..Unless I missed a part of the answer? Ali Hussein On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Crystal Watley Kigoni < [email protected]> wrote:

It is concerning that this has been a topic of discussion since 2010 and no resolution has come.

If these are loans that have been taken from Family Bank, a private institution, and the government has been given World Bank funds to complete it, why are the digital village operators still being given the entire loan debt? Are they not providing a public service?

Secondly, if those selected for the enterprise are not able to repay their debts we are creating failing rather than successful ventures. Something should be done immediately to support those unable to raise the local capital.

Lastly, the CCK should be vocal in insuring these facilities are available and functioning for the utilization by the rural population.

Otherwise, we stand the risk of rural connectivity becoming a long running promise which is never fulfilled. A sad state of affairs.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 4:16 AM, Ali Hussein <[email protected]> wrote:

...

Warigia

Better still how about CCK and ICT Board use opendata to map this out?

Still..I find it abit disconcerting that CCK has been awfully quiet on the issue of Universal Access...

Anyone at CCK?

Regards

Ali Hussein

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Warigia Bowman <[email protected]>wrote:

...

It would be nice to see an accounting of the Pasha funds. I would also like to see which pashas are getting what, and see a map of pashas established, funded, and proposed, but not yet funded. That being said, I can make us that map, if I can extract the data out of the relevant players.

Yours, Rigia

On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Ali Hussein <[email protected]> wrote:

...

Grace & all

During the online discussions that preceded the Kenya IGF we raised the issue of Transparency in the allocation and usage of funds on Universal Access by the CCK.

Having read the story on the challenges facing Pasha Centres is there a case for Partnership between CCK and the ICT Board? Or am I being naive?

Ali Hussein

+254 773/713 601113

Sent from my iPhone®

On Jul 16, 2012, at 10:47 PM, Grace Githaiga <[email protected]> wrote:

http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/-/1006/1455772/-/item/1/-/68vsrnz/-/in...

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Warigia, USF Board will be in place at the end of the month. There are many variables nowadays when you put up such a Board. The include: diversity, gender, qualification, etc. We discussed how to utilise the funds but never quite concluded. We may revisit this since I many organisations including Posta are looking up to this. Ndemo. Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Warigia Bowman <[email protected]> Sender: "kictanet" <[email protected]>Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 10:56:58 To: <[email protected]> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<[email protected]> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Insufficient resources, training mar Sh320m digital villages plan _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list [email protected] https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

Warigia Great. Thanks for that prompt. Daktari, thank you. At least we now know where we are at. Regards Ali Hussein +254 773/713 601113 Sent from my iPhone® On Jul 17, 2012, at 7:20 PM, Warigia Bowman <[email protected]> wrote:

Mheshimiwa

This is great news.

Yours, Rigia

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 11:17 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: Warigia, USF Board will be in place at the end of the month. There are many variables nowadays when you put up such a Board. The include: diversity, gender, qualification, etc.

We discussed how to utilise the funds but never quite concluded. We may revisit this since I many organisations including Posta are looking up to this.

Ndemo.

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From what Yawe has posted (although I've not dissected through the links by Yawe), is local content having a .ke domain or having information related to our local diversities? For example, having content that supports our communities through online presence? Someone educate me on this 'illiteracy'.

On 18/07/2012, robert yawe <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi All,

You and I are responsible for generating local content, and since I am not one to just participate in rhetoric here is my contribution to local content

www.quadrantshift.co.ke www.live.mystocks.co.ke www.youtube.com/coachyawe www.propertykenya.com www.interiors.co.ke http://www.360views.quadrantshift.co.ke/  (work in progress)

What is your contribution to local content?

Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya

Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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Dear Hussein

I was there too, and you did not miss part of the answer because there is no answer. The sad fact is that we have not yet implemented our universal access fund, although Rwanda and Uganda have. Not only are we not taxing operators to promote universal access, we are subsidizing them, and what do we have to show for it?

Local content is great, but how do we encourage its production?  It will take access, training, and support. It is a good idea, but we need a specific detailed plan.

PS Ndemo is the best PS in Kenya, but he can't do everything by himself. We still need to hold the (entire) government, and operators, accountable for ensuring universal access. I want to hear more about what Ndemo has to say about NOFBI.

yours, Warigia

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Ali Hussein <[email protected]> wrote:

Crystal

...

At today's EAIGF I raised the issue of Universal Access and the linkages that may be created with the Pasha Centres.

The Good Doctor (Ndemo) was very forthcoming in elaborating on this point and raised another issue that we all must address. The issue of content.Local Content.

In my humble opinion there must be a mix of private and public partnership for this noble project to work. As much as I am a business person and driven by the profit motive we must also appreciate at all times the role Government and NGOs play.

On the issue of the Universal Access Fund I wasnt really satisfied with the answer I got from Dr.Ndemo..Unless I missed a part of the answer?

Ali Hussein

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Crystal Watley Kigoni <[email protected]> wrote:

It is concerning that this has been a topic of discussion since 2010 and no resolution has come.

...

If these are loans that have been taken from Family Bank, a private institution, and the government has been given World Bank funds to complete it, why are the digital village operators still being given the entire loan debt? Are they not providing a public service?

Secondly, if those selected for the enterprise are not able to repay their debts we are creating failing rather than successful ventures. Something should be done immediately to support those unable to raise the local capital.

Lastly, the CCK should be vocal in insuring these facilities are available and functioning for the utilization by the rural population.

Otherwise, we stand the risk of rural connectivity becoming a long running promise which is never fulfilled. A sad state of affairs.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 4:16 AM, Ali Hussein <[email protected]> wrote:

Warigia

...

Better still how about CCK and ICT Board use opendata to map this out?

Still..I find it abit disconcerting that CCK has been awfully quiet on the issue of Universal Access...

Anyone at CCK?

Regards

Ali Hussein

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Warigia Bowman <[email protected]> wrote:

It would be nice to see an accounting of the Pasha funds. I would also like to see which pashas are getting what, and see a map of pashas established, funded, and proposed, but not yet funded. That being said, I can make us that map, if I can extract the data out of the relevant players.

...

Yours, Rigia

On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Ali Hussein <[email protected]> wrote:

Grace & all

...

During the online discussions that preceded the Kenya IGF we raised the issue of Transparency in the allocation and usage of funds on Universal Access by the CCK.

Having read the story on the challenges facing Pasha Centres is there a case for Partnership between CCK and the ICT Board? Or am I being naive?

Ali Hussein

+254 773/713 601113

Sent from my iPhone®

On Jul 16, 2012, at 10:47 PM, Grace Githaiga <[email protected]> wrote:

http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/-/1006/1455772/-/item/1/-/68vsrnz/-/in...

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Dear colleagues, You might be interested in a recent publication on the Relationship between Local Content, Internet Development and Access Prices" that was published by ISOC, OECD and UNESCO, see www.unesco.org/new/fileadmin/MULTIMEDIA/.../local_content_study.pdf. The first findings of the research were presented at the sixth annual meeting of the Internet Governance Forum (IGF) that was held here in Nairobi, Kenya on 27-30 September 2011. There is also a case study on Kenya Jaco ------------------------------------------------- Jaco DU TOIT Adviser for Communication & Information UNESCO Regional Office for Eastern Africa United Nations Avenue, UNON, Gigiri (Room C-104) P.O. Box 30592-00100, Nairobi, Kenya Tel: +254 (0)20 762 2346/2566 Fax +254 (0)20 762 2750 Mobile: +254 (0)728 610 912 Email:[email protected], Website: http://www.unesco-nairobi.org -----Original Message----- From: kictanet [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ali Hussein Sent: Wednesday, 18 July, 2012 10:50 AM To: Du Toit, Jaco Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Local content Solomon Local content is what is relevant to a local audience. In this case Kenya. In my humble opinion if you write about Jay Z and you are a Kenyan that doesn't pass muster as local content. As for the domain extension - that is just where you host the content. So that content on Jay Z if it goes on a site with the domain hiphop.co.ke that doesn't qualify as local content... For more context. Yawe's quadrantshift.co.ke is a good example of taking a global phenomenon (in this case Richdad PoorDad) and applying it to a local context. Well done Yawe. I hope I have helped. Ali Hussein +254 773/713 601113 Sent from my iPhone® On Jul 18, 2012, at 10:37 AM, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <[email protected]> wrote:

From what Yawe has posted (although I've not dissected through the links by Yawe), is local content having a .ke domain or having information related to our local diversities? For example, having content that supports our communities through online presence? Someone educate me on this 'illiteracy'.

On 18/07/2012, robert yawe <[email protected]> wrote:

...

Hi All,

You and I are responsible for generating local content, and since I am not one to just participate in rhetoric here is my contribution to local content

www.quadrantshift.co.ke www.live.mystocks.co.ke www.youtube.com/coachyawe www.propertykenya.com www.interiors.co.ke http://www.360views.quadrantshift.co.ke/ (work in progress)

What is your contribution to local content?

Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya

Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

________________________________ From: Warigia Bowman <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2012, 18:56 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Insufficient resources, training mar Sh320m digital villages plan

Dear Hussein

I was there too, and you did not miss part of the answer because there is no answer. The sad fact is that we have not yet implemented our universal access fund, although Rwanda and Uganda have. Not only are we not taxing operators to promote universal access, we are subsidizing them, and what do we have to show for it?

Local content is great, but how do we encourage its production? It will take access, training, and support. It is a good idea, but we need a specific detailed plan.

PS Ndemo is the best PS in Kenya, but he can't do everything by himself. We still need to hold the (entire) government, and operators, accountable for ensuring universal access. I want to hear more about what Ndemo has to say about NOFBI.

yours, Warigia

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Ali Hussein <[email protected]> wrote:

Crystal

...

At today's EAIGF I raised the issue of Universal Access and the linkages that may be created with the Pasha Centres.

The Good Doctor (Ndemo) was very forthcoming in elaborating on this point and raised another issue that we all must address. The issue of content.Local Content.

In my humble opinion there must be a mix of private and public partnership for this noble project to work. As much as I am a business person and driven by the profit motive we must also appreciate at all times the role Government and NGOs play.

On the issue of the Universal Access Fund I wasnt really satisfied with the answer I got from Dr.Ndemo..Unless I missed a part of the answer?

Ali Hussein

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Crystal Watley Kigoni <[email protected]> wrote:

It is concerning that this has been a topic of discussion since 2010 and no resolution has come.

...

If these are loans that have been taken from Family Bank, a private institution, and the government has been given World Bank funds to complete it, why are the digital village operators still being given the entire loan debt? Are they not providing a public service?

Secondly, if those selected for the enterprise are not able to repay their debts we are creating failing rather than successful ventures. Something should be done immediately to support those unable to raise the local capital.

Lastly, the CCK should be vocal in insuring these facilities are available and functioning for the utilization by the rural population.

Otherwise, we stand the risk of rural connectivity becoming a long running promise which is never fulfilled. A sad state of affairs.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 4:16 AM, Ali Hussein <[email protected]> wrote:

Warigia

...

Better still how about CCK and ICT Board use opendata to map this out?

Still..I find it abit disconcerting that CCK has been awfully quiet on the issue of Universal Access...

Anyone at CCK?

Regards

Ali Hussein

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Warigia Bowman <[email protected]> wrote:

It would be nice to see an accounting of the Pasha funds. I would also like to see which pashas are getting what, and see a map of pashas established, funded, and proposed, but not yet funded. That being said, I can make us that map, if I can extract the data out of the relevant players.

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Yours, Rigia

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when it comes to what is local i'd say it depends. - where is the content hosted. From 'a guy that designs networks' perspective, this has the biggest impact. So google and Akamai by caching traffic at a local exchange point is local, nation media's site hosted abroad is not local by this definition. This has the biggest impact on cost and éye ball' perception of a good service mainly due to the latency imposed on the traffic by long round trips. - Content created for and by local people. this immediately puts the nation media content from above in the 'local content' category. I however find this too broad. Kenyan videos on you tube are local, but google can physically host them anywhere in the world. obviously it makes sense to host content as close to its consumers as possible. So nation might not see sense in hosting their site here if their biggest online consumers are in North america. but the ;content as far as we're concenrned is still local. other things impact the definitions eg if you have local content but your ISP has a DNS service hosted abroad, then in my books they are doing something wrong and it affects localization. the same could be said of someone offering offshore billing services, or using salesforce but they are a kenyan company. is the content they put in there local? by whose definition? gitau On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Tomslin Samme-Nlar <[email protected]>wrote:

Thanks Jaco.

That'll help some of us who are trying to understand what local content really means.

Tomslin www.onelifeconsult.com

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Du Toit, Jaco <[email protected]>wrote:

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Dear colleagues,

You might be interested in a recent publication on the Relationship between Local Content, Internet Development and Access Prices" that was published by ISOC, OECD and UNESCO, see www.unesco.org/new/fileadmin/MULTIMEDIA/.../local_content_study.pdf. The first findings of the research were presented at the sixth annual meeting of the Internet Governance Forum (IGF) that was held here in Nairobi, Kenya on 27-30 September 2011. There is also a case study on Kenya

Jaco

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-----Original Message----- From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+j.dutoit= [email protected]] On Behalf Of Ali Hussein Sent: Wednesday, 18 July, 2012 10:50 AM To: Du Toit, Jaco Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Local content

Solomon

Local content is what is relevant to a local audience. In this case Kenya. In my humble opinion if you write about Jay Z and you are a Kenyan that doesn't pass muster as local content.

As for the domain extension - that is just where you host the content. So that content on Jay Z if it goes on a site with the domain hiphop.co.kethat doesn't qualify as local content...

For more context. Yawe's quadrantshift.co.ke is a good example of taking a global phenomenon (in this case Richdad PoorDad) and applying it to a local context. Well done Yawe.

I hope I have helped.

Ali Hussein

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From what Yawe has posted (although I've not dissected through the links by Yawe), is local content having a .ke domain or having information related to our local diversities? For example, having content that supports our communities through online presence? Someone educate me on this 'illiteracy'.

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Hi All,

You and I are responsible for generating local content, and since I am not one to just participate in rhetoric here is my contribution to local content

www.quadrantshift.co.ke www.live.mystocks.co.ke www.youtube.com/coachyawe www.propertykenya.com www.interiors.co.ke http://www.360views.quadrantshift.co.ke/ (work in progress)

What is your contribution to local content?

Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya

Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

________________________________ From: Warigia Bowman <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2012, 18:56 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Insufficient resources, training mar Sh320m digital villages plan

Dear Hussein

I was there too, and you did not miss part of the answer because there is no answer. The sad fact is that we have not yet implemented our universal access fund, although Rwanda and Uganda have. Not only are we not taxing operators to promote universal access, we are subsidizing them, and what do we have to show for it?

Local content is great, but how do we encourage its production? It will take access, training, and support. It is a good idea, but we need a specific detailed plan.

PS Ndemo is the best PS in Kenya, but he can't do everything by himself. We still need to hold the (entire) government, and operators, accountable for ensuring universal access. I want to hear more about what Ndemo has to say about NOFBI.

yours, Warigia

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Ali Hussein <[email protected]> wrote:

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At today's EAIGF I raised the issue of Universal Access and the linkages that may be created with the Pasha Centres.

The Good Doctor (Ndemo) was very forthcoming in elaborating on this point and raised another issue that we all must address. The issue of content.Local Content.

In my humble opinion there must be a mix of private and public partnership for this noble project to work. As much as I am a business person and driven by the profit motive we must also appreciate at all times the role Government and NGOs play.

On the issue of the Universal Access Fund I wasnt really satisfied with the answer I got from Dr.Ndemo..Unless I missed a part of the

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Ali Hussein

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Crystal Watley Kigoni <[email protected]> wrote:

It is concerning that this has been a topic of discussion since 2010 and no resolution has come.

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If these are loans that have been taken from Family Bank, a private institution, and the government has been given World Bank funds to complete it, why are the digital village operators still being given the entire loan debt? Are they not providing a public service?

Secondly, if those selected for the enterprise are not able to repay their debts we are creating failing rather than successful ventures. Something should be done immediately to support those unable to raise the local capital.

Lastly, the CCK should be vocal in insuring these facilities are available and functioning for the utilization by the rural

On 18/07/2012, robert yawe <[email protected]> wrote: population.

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Otherwise, we stand the risk of rural connectivity becoming a long running promise which is never fulfilled. A sad state of affairs.

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Dear colleagues, According to the UNESCO Suite of indicators on Culture and Development, local content is generally defined as material that is both predominantly made in A country and reflects the countries identity and culture. Best regards Jaco ------------------------------------------------- Jaco DU TOIT Adviser for Communication & Information UNESCO Regional Office for Eastern Africa United Nations Avenue, UNON, Gigiri (Room C-104) P.O. Box 30592-00100, Nairobi, Kenya Tel: +254 (0)20 762 2346/2566 Fax +254 (0)20 762 2750 Mobile: +254 (0)728 610 912 Email:[email protected], Website: http://www.unesco-nairobi.org From: Dennis Kioko [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 18 July, 2012 12:24 PM To: Du Toit, Jaco Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Local content What Is The True Definition Of "Local Content"? http://tommakau.com/2012/07/04/what-is-the-true-definition-of-local-cont ent/