Re: [kictanet] New Dates for the Stakeholder Forum to discuss the Laptop Project 4th July 2013 9 am to 5 pm Strathmore University Auditorium
Barrack and team Thanks for this initiative. This matter has come up at our meetings at the Kenya Publishers Association (KPA) and the most effective way members can provide content. I would like to share this with the KPA leadership (if you haven't contacted them yet) for purposes of participation. Do you have a formal communique or some other such communication I can share with them? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manage your ICT risks! We are the experts you need! The trusted partners you deserve! Call: +1-888-587-1150 (Canada) +254-20-267-0743 (Kenya) or info@aganoconsulting.com In Kenya - Licensed by Communications Commission of Kenya (CCK) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The best revenge is massive success" - Frank Sinatra----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you. ________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:10:21 +0300 From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>, "isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke>, Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] New Dates for the Stakeholder Forum to discuss the Laptop Project 4th July 2013 9 am to 5 pm Strathmore University Auditorium Message-ID: <CAKX6dsGHMiTh=ihST9xB4KO6ghNv0yp_Sv7KTvT-e6SdF4ausw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear Lister's, We would like to apologize to listers for the belated response on the above mentioned meeting. Due to increased interest from different stakeholder groups , the planning committee has decided to hold the first stakeholder meeting on 4 th July 2013 at the Strathmore University Auditorium from 9 am to 5 pm. This is to allow different stakeholders to come up with position papers in addition to the online discussions we held last week. This will then be collated and presented to the government at a separate event on 19th July 2013. Thank you Best Regards -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 14:36:36 +0300 From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> To: WANGARI KABIRU <wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>, KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>, "isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke>, John Wali <jwali@jakenya.org> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ISOC_KE] New Dates for the Stakeholder Forum to discuss the Laptop Project 4th July 2013 9 am to 5 pm Strathmore University Auditorium Message-ID: <CAKX6dsFJ42N=tnTLBkUr6RnNUO83ex_AOfS9QGozocSX6VBQQw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear Wangari, colleagues So far we don't have any implementation plan, ours is a response as a sector to a Presidential directive to ensure it is well implemented since the project will be funded by tax payers. We will prepare a report based on the week long discussions on the lists. In addition all stakeholders are invited to come up with position papers that will be included in the final document to be handed over to concerned parties in the government. I hope this helps. Best Regards On 6/17/13, WANGARI KABIRU <wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Happy Monday Chair,
Thank you for the update on the date on the Thursday, July 04 2013 for the Stakeholders Forum.
Prior to July 04th, may we receive the Ministry of Education and related agencies implementation plan-I have not been able to trace this as yet and certainly there is a lot already happening to make the project a success.
Even as views are shared and called on, Please let us not shoot too much in the dark. This would also enable valuable contributions to be made to the well researched and informed plan, demystify and enhance the goodwill that has built up for the project.
Have a pleasant day.
Regards/Wangari
--- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth".
----- Original Message ----- From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; "isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke>; Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Cc: Sent: Monday, 17 June 2013, 12:10 Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] New Dates for the Stakeholder Forum to discuss the Laptop Project 4th July 2013 9 am to 5 pm Strathmore University Auditorium
Dear Lister's,
We would like to apologize to listers for the belated response on the above mentioned meeting. Due to increased interest from different stakeholder groups , the planning committee has decided to hold the first stakeholder meeting on? 4 th July 2013 at the Strathmore University Auditorium? from 9 am to 5 pm. This is to allow different stakeholders to come up with position papers in addition to the online discussions we held last week. This will then be collated and presented to the government at a separate event on 19th July 2013.
Thank you
Best Regards
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@orion.my.co.ke http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:42:10 +0100 (BST) From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> To: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Self censorship and the need for a village mad man Message-ID: <1371472930.10496.YahooMailNeo@web171705.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi Ali, The article indicates that those who contribute are those from the middle class but I disagree based on my experiences on this forum which I believe consists of members of the middle and upper classes. Regards ? Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2013, 10:33 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Self censorship and the need for a village mad man Robert I fundamentally disagree with that assertion. Our offline behaviors usually mirror our online ones. The issue remains one of connectivity. Our fellow Kenyans at the bottom of the pyramid may want as much as anyone to access and be part of the online community. The fact of the matter is that the majority of Kenyans are not online. Universal Access MUST?be the most urgent issue of the day. Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd +254 713 601113 "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb Sent from my iPad On Jun 13, 2013, at 8:05 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Hi all and the rest,
I came across the following article and noted that the writer was likely not a member of this forum otherwise he would have realised that the problem transcends economic and social class;
There?s little content from low income earning communities in Kenya on
the Internet due to self censorship, rather than due to lack of access to connectivity.
This has been revealed by Chris Orwa, who works with
iHub Research On a piece on the iHub blog, Orwa says that the iHub, in following up on incidents reported on Ushahidi?s Uchaguzi election monitoring tool, found that much more happened in Mathare slums than was reported online.
In addition, the team had
observed that most of the reports on the platform were made from middle income neighbourhoods in Nairobi.
In a visit to Mathare, Orwa and
his team were told that the community there was tight knit - with people tending to know each other. There were a few people with access to the Internet, who also knew each other. The community tends to shun those who post negative information about the community, with indication that the community may in addition clamp down on those posting such information.
Additionally, those who came from such areas did not
want to be associated with the neighbourhood. This resulted in little information about such neighbourhoods being posted online. In addition, if any info was posted, it was rarely negative.
Please only respond if you disagree with my interpretation
? Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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Matunda, Indeed KPA is one of the interested stakeholders and some of your members on list have participated, we encourage every stakeholder at this time to come up with position papers, feel free to relay them to me so that i can forward to the concerned parties. Best Regards On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 5:56 AM, Matunda Nyanchama < mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> wrote:
Barrack and team
Thanks for this initiative.
This matter has come up at our meetings at the Kenya Publishers Association (KPA) and the most effective way members can provide content.
I would like to share this with the KPA leadership (if you haven't contacted them yet) for purposes of participation.
Do you have a formal communique or some other such communication I can share with them?
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda; <http://twitter.com/#%21/nmatunda>Skype: okiambe
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---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The best revenge is massive success" - Frank Sinatra
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Message: 1 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:10:21 +0300 From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>, "isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke>, Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] New Dates for the Stakeholder Forum to discuss
the Laptop Project 4th July 2013 9 am to 5 pm Strathmore University Auditorium Message-ID: <CAKX6dsGHMiTh=ihST9xB4KO6ghNv0yp_Sv7KTvT-e6SdF4ausw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Dear Lister's,
We would like to apologize to listers for the belated response on the above mentioned meeting. Due to increased interest from different stakeholder groups , the planning committee has decided to hold the first stakeholder meeting on 4 th July 2013 at the Strathmore University Auditorium from 9 am to 5 pm. This is to allow different stakeholders to come up with position papers in addition to the online discussions we held last week. This will then be collated and presented to the government at a separate event on 19th July 2013.
Thank you
Best Regards
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/
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Message: 2 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 14:36:36 +0300 From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> To: WANGARI KABIRU <wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>, KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>, "isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke>, John Wali <jwali@jakenya.org> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ISOC_KE] New Dates for the Stakeholder Forum
to discuss the Laptop Project 4th July 2013 9 am to 5 pm Strathmore University Auditorium Message-ID: <CAKX6dsFJ42N=tnTLBkUr6RnNUO83ex_AOfS9QGozocSX6VBQQw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Dear Wangari, colleagues
So far we don't have any implementation plan, ours is a response as a sector to a Presidential directive to ensure it is well implemented since the project will be funded by tax payers. We will prepare a report based on the week long discussions on the lists. In addition all stakeholders are invited to come up with position papers that will be included in the final document to be handed over to concerned parties in the government. I hope this helps.
Best Regards
Happy Monday Chair,
Thank you for the update on the date on the Thursday, July 04 2013 for
Stakeholders Forum.
Prior to July 04th, may we receive the Ministry of Education and related agencies implementation plan-I have not been able to trace this as yet and certainly there is a lot already happening to make the project a success.
Even as views are shared and called on, Please let us not shoot too much in the dark. This would also enable valuable contributions to be made to the well researched and informed plan, demystify and enhance the goodwill
On 6/17/13, WANGARI KABIRU <wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: the that
has built up for the project.
Have a pleasant day.
Regards/Wangari
--- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth".
----- Original Message ----- From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; "isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke>; Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Cc: Sent: Monday, 17 June 2013, 12:10 Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] New Dates for the Stakeholder Forum to discuss the Laptop Project 4th July 2013 9 am to 5 pm Strathmore University Auditorium
Dear Lister's,
We would like to apologize to listers for the belated response on the above mentioned meeting. Due to increased interest from different stakeholder groups , the planning committee has decided to hold the first stakeholder meeting on? 4 th July 2013 at the Strathmore University Auditorium? from 9 am to 5 pm. This is to allow different
stakeholders to come up with position papers in addition to the online discussions we held last week. This will then be collated and presented to the government at a separate event on 19th July 2013.
Thank you
Best Regards
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@orion.my.co.ke http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/
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Message: 3 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:42:10 +0100 (BST) From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> To: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Self censorship and the need for a village mad man Message-ID: <1371472930.10496.YahooMailNeo@web171705.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi Ali,
The article indicates that those who contribute are those from the middle class but I disagree based on my experiences on this forum which I believe consists of members of the middle and upper classes.
Regards
? Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2013, 10:33 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Self censorship and the need for a village mad man
Robert
I fundamentally disagree with that assertion. Our offline behaviors usually mirror our online ones. The issue remains one of connectivity. Our fellow Kenyans at the bottom of the pyramid may want as much as anyone to access and be part of the online community.
The fact of the matter is that the majority of Kenyans are not online. Universal Access MUST?be the most urgent issue of the day.
Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
+254 713 601113
"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb Sent from my iPad
On Jun 13, 2013, at 8:05 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi all and the rest,
I came across the following article and noted that the writer was likely
not a member of this forum otherwise he would have realised that the problem transcends economic and social class;
There?s little content from low income earning communities in Kenya on
the Internet due to self censorship, rather than due to lack of access to connectivity.
This has been revealed by Chris Orwa, who works with
iHub Research On a piece on the iHub blog, Orwa says that the iHub, in following up on incidents reported on Ushahidi?s Uchaguzi election monitoring tool, found that much more happened in Mathare slums than was reported online.
In addition, the team had
observed that most of the reports on the platform were made from middle income neighbourhoods in Nairobi.
In a visit to Mathare, Orwa and
his team were told that the community there was tight knit - with people tending to know each other. There were a few people with access to the Internet, who also knew each other. The community tends to shun those who post negative information about the community, with indication that the community may in addition clamp down on those posting such information.
Additionally, those who came from such areas did not
want to be associated with the neighbourhood. This resulted in little information about such neighbourhoods being posted online. In addition, if any info was posted, it was rarely negative.
Please only respond if you disagree with my interpretation
? Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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Tx, back to circulation after 2 years blackout. Hope to participate in today's forum in Strathmore. Kind regards B. K. Sang From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bsang=education.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Matunda Nyanchama Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:56 AM To: Barnabas K. Sang Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] New Dates for the Stakeholder Forum to discuss the Laptop Project 4th July 2013 9 am to 5 pm Strathmore University Auditorium Barrack and team Thanks for this initiative. This matter has come up at our meetings at the Kenya Publishers Association (KPA) and the most effective way members can provide content. I would like to share this with the KPA leadership (if you haven't contacted them yet) for purposes of participation. Do you have a formal communique or some other such communication I can share with them? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com<mailto:mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com> Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com<http://www.aganoconsulting.com/>; Twitter: nmatunda; <http://twitter.com/#%21/nmatunda> Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manage your ICT risks! We are the experts you need! The trusted partners you deserve! Call: +1-888-587-1150 (Canada) +254-20-267-0743 (Kenya) or info@aganoconsulting.com In Kenya - Licensed by Communications Commission of Kenya (CCK) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:10:21 +0300 From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com<mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com>> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>>, "isoc@orion.my.co.ke<mailto:isoc@orion.my.co.ke>" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke<mailto:isoc@orion.my.co.ke>>, Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke<mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] New Dates for the Stakeholder Forum to discuss the Laptop Project 4th July 2013 9 am to 5 pm Strathmore University Auditorium Message-ID: <CAKX6dsGHMiTh=ihST9xB4KO6ghNv0yp_Sv7KTvT-e6SdF4ausw@mail.gmail.com<mailto:ihST9xB4KO6ghNv0yp_Sv7KTvT-e6SdF4ausw@mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear Lister's, We would like to apologize to listers for the belated response on the above mentioned meeting. Due to increased interest from different stakeholder groups , the planning committee has decided to hold the first stakeholder meeting on 4 th July 2013 at the Strathmore University Auditorium from 9 am to 5 pm. This is to allow different stakeholders to come up with position papers in addition to the online discussions we held last week. This will then be collated and presented to the government at a separate event on 19th July 2013. Thank you Best Regards -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 14:36:36 +0300 From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com<mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com>> To: WANGARI KABIRU <wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk>> Cc: Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke<mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>>, KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>>, "isoc@orion.my.co.ke<mailto:isoc@orion.my.co.ke>" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke<mailto:isoc@orion.my.co.ke>>, John Wali <jwali@jakenya.org<mailto:jwali@jakenya.org>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ISOC_KE] New Dates for the Stakeholder Forum to discuss the Laptop Project 4th July 2013 9 am to 5 pm Strathmore University Auditorium Message-ID: <CAKX6dsFJ42N=tnTLBkUr6RnNUO83ex_AOfS9QGozocSX6VBQQw@mail.gmail.com<mailto:tnTLBkUr6RnNUO83ex_AOfS9QGozocSX6VBQQw@mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear Wangari, colleagues So far we don't have any implementation plan, ours is a response as a sector to a Presidential directive to ensure it is well implemented since the project will be funded by tax payers. We will prepare a report based on the week long discussions on the lists. In addition all stakeholders are invited to come up with position papers that will be included in the final document to be handed over to concerned parties in the government. I hope this helps. Best Regards On 6/17/13, WANGARI KABIRU <wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:
Happy Monday Chair,
Thank you for the update on the date on the Thursday, July 04 2013 for the Stakeholders Forum.
Prior to July 04th, may we receive the Ministry of Education and related agencies implementation plan-I have not been able to trace this as yet and certainly there is a lot already happening to make the project a success.
Even as views are shared and called on, Please let us not shoot too much in the dark. This would also enable valuable contributions to be made to the well researched and informed plan, demystify and enhance the goodwill that has built up for the project.
Have a pleasant day.
Regards/Wangari
--- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth".
----- Original Message ----- From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com<mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com>> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>>; "isoc@orion.my.co.ke<mailto:isoc@orion.my.co.ke>" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke<mailto:isoc@orion.my.co.ke>>; Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke<mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>> Cc: Sent: Monday, 17 June 2013, 12:10 Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] New Dates for the Stakeholder Forum to discuss the Laptop Project 4th July 2013 9 am to 5 pm Strathmore University Auditorium
Dear Lister's,
We would like to apologize to listers for the belated response on the above mentioned meeting. Due to increased interest from different stakeholder groups , the planning committee has decided to hold the first stakeholder meeting on? 4 th July 2013 at the Strathmore University Auditorium? from 9 am to 5 pm. This is to allow different stakeholders to come up with position papers in addition to the online discussions we held last week. This will then be collated and presented to the government at a separate event on 19th July 2013.
Thank you
Best Regards
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-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:42:10 +0100 (BST) From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>> To: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Self censorship and the need for a village mad man Message-ID: <1371472930.10496.YahooMailNeo@web171705.mail.ir2.yahoo.com<mailto:1371472930.10496.YahooMailNeo@web171705.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi Ali, The article indicates that those who contribute are those from the middle class but I disagree based on my experiences on this forum which I believe consists of members of the middle and upper classes. Regards ? Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2013, 10:33 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Self censorship and the need for a village mad man Robert I fundamentally disagree with that assertion. Our offline behaviors usually mirror our online ones. The issue remains one of connectivity. Our fellow Kenyans at the bottom of the pyramid may want as much as anyone to access and be part of the online community. The fact of the matter is that the majority of Kenyans are not online. Universal Access MUST?be the most urgent issue of the day. Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd +254 713 601113 "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb Sent from my iPad On Jun 13, 2013, at 8:05 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>> wrote: Hi all and the rest,
I came across the following article and noted that the writer was likely not a member of this forum otherwise he would have realised that the problem transcends economic and social class;
There?s little content from low income earning communities in Kenya on
the Internet due to self censorship, rather than due to lack of access to connectivity.
This has been revealed by Chris Orwa, who works with
iHub Research On a piece on the iHub blog, Orwa says that the iHub, in following up on incidents reported on Ushahidi?s Uchaguzi election monitoring tool, found that much more happened in Mathare slums than was reported online.
In addition, the team had
observed that most of the reports on the platform were made from middle income neighbourhoods in Nairobi.
In a visit to Mathare, Orwa and
his team were told that the community there was tight knit - with people tending to know each other. There were a few people with access to the Internet, who also knew each other. The community tends to shun those who post negative information about the community, with indication that the community may in addition clamp down on those posting such information.
Additionally, those who came from such areas did not
want to be associated with the neighbourhood. This resulted in little information about such neighbourhoods being posted online. In addition, if any info was posted, it was rarely negative.
Please only respond if you disagree with my interpretation
? Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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Hello Mr. Sang, To bring you up to speed, last week we held online discussions on most list serves. We are compiling the responses from members. Due to the interest from various stakeholders, we changed the approach so that we could accommodate position papers from different stakeholder groups in the ICT sector, as such the new dates for the Face to Face meeting are 4th July 2013 at the Strathmore University Auditorium. The Final report will then be handed over to concerned decision makers in governmnet on 19th July at a separate event. Thank you Best Regards On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Barnabas K. Sang <bsang@education.go.ke>wrote:
Tx, back to circulation after 2 years blackout.****
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Hope to participate in today’s forum in Strathmore.****
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Kind regards****
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B. K. Sang****
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Thanks for this initiative.****
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This matter has come up at our meetings at the Kenya Publishers Association (KPA) and the most effective way members can provide content.* ***
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I would like to share this with the KPA leadership (if you haven't contacted them yet) for purposes of participation.****
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Do you have a formal communique or some other such communication I can share with them?****
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Message: 1 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:10:21 +0300 From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>, "isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke>, Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] New Dates for the Stakeholder Forum to discuss the Laptop Project 4th July 2013 9 am to 5 pm Strathmore University Auditorium Message-ID: <CAKX6dsGHMiTh=ihST9xB4KO6ghNv0yp_Sv7KTvT-e6SdF4ausw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Dear Lister's,
We would like to apologize to listers for the belated response on the above mentioned meeting. Due to increased interest from different stakeholder groups , the planning committee has decided to hold the first stakeholder meeting on 4 th July 2013 at the Strathmore University Auditorium from 9 am to 5 pm. This is to allow different stakeholders to come up with position papers in addition to the online discussions we held last week. This will then be collated and presented to the government at a separate event on 19th July 2013.
Thank you
Best Regards
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/
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Message: 2 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 14:36:36 +0300 From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> To: WANGARI KABIRU <wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>, KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>, "isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke>, John Wali <jwali@jakenya.org> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ISOC_KE] New Dates for the Stakeholder Forum to discuss the Laptop Project 4th July 2013 9 am to 5 pm Strathmore University Auditorium Message-ID: <CAKX6dsFJ42N=tnTLBkUr6RnNUO83ex_AOfS9QGozocSX6VBQQw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Dear Wangari, colleagues
So far we don't have any implementation plan, ours is a response as a sector to a Presidential directive to ensure it is well implemented since the project will be funded by tax payers. We will prepare a report based on the week long discussions on the lists. In addition all stakeholders are invited to come up with position papers that will be included in the final document to be handed over to concerned parties in the government. I hope this helps.
Best Regards
Happy Monday Chair,
Thank you for the update on the date on the Thursday, July 04 2013 for
Stakeholders Forum.
Prior to July 04th, may we receive the Ministry of Education and related agencies implementation plan-I have not been able to trace this as yet and certainly there is a lot already happening to make the project a success.
Even as views are shared and called on, Please let us not shoot too much in the dark. This would also enable valuable contributions to be made to the well researched and informed plan, demystify and enhance the goodwill
On 6/17/13, WANGARI KABIRU <wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: the that
has built up for the project.
Have a pleasant day.
Regards/Wangari
--- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth".
----- Original Message ----- From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; "isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke>; Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Cc: Sent: Monday, 17 June 2013, 12:10 Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] New Dates for the Stakeholder Forum to discuss the Laptop Project 4th July 2013 9 am to 5 pm Strathmore University Auditorium
Dear Lister's,
We would like to apologize to listers for the belated response on the above mentioned meeting. Due to increased interest from different stakeholder groups , the planning committee has decided to hold the first stakeholder meeting on? 4 th July 2013 at the Strathmore University Auditorium? from 9 am to 5 pm. This is to allow different stakeholders to come up with position papers in addition to the online discussions we held last week. This will then be collated and presented to the government at a separate event on 19th July 2013.
Thank you
Best Regards
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Message: 3 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:42:10 +0100 (BST) From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> To: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Self censorship and the need for a village mad man Message-ID: <1371472930.10496.YahooMailNeo@web171705.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi Ali,
The article indicates that those who contribute are those from the middle class but I disagree based on my experiences on this forum which I believe consists of members of the middle and upper classes.
Regards
? Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2013, 10:33 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Self censorship and the need for a village mad man
Robert
I fundamentally disagree with that assertion. Our offline behaviors usually mirror our online ones. The issue remains one of connectivity. Our fellow Kenyans at the bottom of the pyramid may want as much as anyone to access and be part of the online community.
The fact of the matter is that the majority of Kenyans are not online. Universal Access MUST?be the most urgent issue of the day.
Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
+254 713 601113
"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb Sent from my iPad
On Jun 13, 2013, at 8:05 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi all and the rest,
I came across the following article and noted that the writer was likely
not a member of this forum otherwise he would have realised that the problem transcends economic and social class;
There?s little content from low income earning communities in Kenya on
the Internet due to self censorship, rather than due to lack of access to connectivity.
This has been revealed by Chris Orwa, who works with
iHub Research On a piece on the iHub blog, Orwa says that the iHub, in following up on incidents reported on Ushahidi?s Uchaguzi election monitoring tool, found that much more happened in Mathare slums than was reported online.
In addition, the team had
observed that most of the reports on the platform were made from middle income neighbourhoods in Nairobi.
In a visit to Mathare, Orwa and
his team were told that the community there was tight knit - with people tending to know each other. There were a few people with access to the Internet, who also knew each other. The community tends to shun those who post negative information about the community, with indication that the community may in addition clamp down on those posting such information.
Additionally, those who came from such areas did not
want to be associated with the neighbourhood. This resulted in little information about such neighbourhoods being posted online. In addition, if any info was posted, it was rarely negative.
Please only respond if you disagree with my interpretation
? Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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