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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:10:21 +0300
From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>,
    "isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke>, Skunkworks forum
    <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] New Dates for the Stakeholder Forum to discuss
    the Laptop Project 4th July 2013 9 am to 5 pm Strathmore University
    Auditorium
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Dear Lister's,

We would like to apologize to listers for the belated response on the
above mentioned meeting. Due to increased interest from different
stakeholder groups , the planning committee has decided to hold the
first stakeholder meeting on  4 th July 2013 at the Strathmore
University Auditorium  from 9 am to 5 pm. This is to allow different
stakeholders to come up with position papers in addition to the online
discussions we held last week. This will then be collated and
presented to the government at a separate event on 19th July 2013.

Thank you

Best Regards

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 14:36:36 +0300
From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
To: WANGARI KABIRU <wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>, KICTAnet ICT Policy
    Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>, "isoc@orion.my.co.ke"
    <isoc@orion.my.co.ke>, John Wali <jwali@jakenya.org>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ISOC_KE] New Dates for the Stakeholder Forum
    to discuss the Laptop Project 4th July 2013 9 am to 5 pm Strathmore
    University Auditorium
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Dear Wangari, colleagues

So far we don't have any implementation plan,  ours is a response as a
sector to a Presidential directive to ensure it is well implemented
since the project will be funded by tax payers. We will prepare a
report based on the week long discussions on the lists. In addition
all stakeholders are invited to come up with position papers that will
be included in the final document to be handed over to concerned
parties in the government. I hope this helps.

Best Regards

On 6/17/13, WANGARI KABIRU <wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Happy Monday Chair,
>
> Thank you for the update on the date on the Thursday, July 04 2013 for the
> Stakeholders Forum.
>
> Prior to July 04th, may we receive the Ministry of Education and related
> agencies implementation plan-I have not been able to trace this as yet and
> certainly there is a lot already happening to make the project a success.
>
> Even as views are shared and called on, Please let us not shoot too much in
> the dark. This would also enable valuable contributions to be made to the
> well researched and informed plan, demystify and enhance the goodwill that
> has built up for the project.
>
> Have a pleasant day.
>
> Regards/Wangari
>
>
>
> ---
> Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored
> Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on
> Earth".
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>;
> "isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke>; Skunkworks forum
> <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
> Cc:
> Sent: Monday, 17 June 2013, 12:10
> Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] New Dates for the Stakeholder Forum to discuss the
> Laptop Project 4th July 2013 9 am to 5 pm Strathmore University Auditorium
>
> Dear Lister's,
>
> We would like to apologize to listers for the belated response on the
> above mentioned meeting. Due to increased interest from different
> stakeholder groups , the planning committee has decided to hold the
> first stakeholder meeting on? 4 th July 2013 at the Strathmore
> University Auditorium? from 9 am to 5 pm. This is to allow different
> stakeholders to come up with position papers in addition to the online
> discussions we held last week. This will then be collated and
> presented to the government at a separate event on 19th July 2013.
>
> Thank you
>
> Best Regards
>
> --
> Barrack O. Otieno
> +254721325277
> +254-20-2498789
> Skype: barrack.otieno
> http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:42:10 +0100 (BST)
From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
To: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke>
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Self censorship and the need for a village mad
    man
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Hi Ali,

The article indicates that those who contribute are those from the middle class but I disagree based on my experiences on this forum which I believe consists of members of the middle and upper classes.


Regards

?
Robert Yawe
KAY System Technologies Ltd
Phoenix House, 6th Floor
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
Kenya


Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696


________________________________
From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke>
To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2013, 10:33
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Self censorship and the need for a village mad man



Robert

I fundamentally disagree with that assertion. Our offline behaviors usually mirror our online ones. The issue remains one of connectivity. Our fellow Kenyans at the bottom of the pyramid may want as much as anyone to access and be part of the online community.

The fact of the matter is that the majority of Kenyans are not online. Universal Access MUST?be the most urgent issue of the day.


Ali Hussein
CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd
Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd

+254 713 601113

"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb
Sent from my iPad

On Jun 13, 2013, at 8:05 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


Hi all and the rest,
>
>
>I came across the following article and noted that the writer was likely not a member of this forum otherwise he would have realised that the problem transcends economic and social class;
>
>
>There?s little content from low income earning communities in Kenya on
the Internet due to self censorship, rather than due to lack of access
to connectivity.
>
>
>
>This has been revealed by Chris Orwa, who works with
iHub Research On a piece on the iHub blog, Orwa says that the iHub, in following up on incidents reported on Ushahidi?s
Uchaguzi election monitoring tool, found that much more happened in
Mathare slums than was reported online.
>
>
>
>In addition, the team had
observed that most of the reports on the platform were made from middle
income neighbourhoods in Nairobi.
>
>
>In a visit to Mathare, Orwa and
his team were told that the community there was tight knit - with people tending to know each other. There were a few people with access to the
Internet, who also knew each other. The community tends to shun those
who post negative information about the community, with indication that
the community may in addition clamp down on those posting such
information.
>
>
>Additionally, those who came from such areas did not
want to be associated with the neighbourhood. This resulted in little
information about such neighbourhoods being posted online. In addition,
if any info was posted, it was rarely negative.
>
>
>Please only respond if you disagree with my interpretation
>
>?
>Regards
>
>
>Robert Yawe
>KAY System Technologies Ltd
>Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>Kenya
>
>
>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 14:23:04 +0100 (BST)
From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
To: Warigia Bowman <warigia@gmail.com>
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 5 : Ensuring Effective Implementation of
    the    Laptop Project - The Key Variables (Day 5:Wrap up and Way    Forward
    (Key declarations, what next)
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Wairigia,

All things are not linear, we cannot apply a time line to the development of a generation that is IT savvy.? For many years it was believed that mobile phones would only be appreciated by the middle class and above today many people pay more for airtime per month than on rent which means it has become a basic need.

The President has indirectly tasked us by his directive to find a way to implement a new approach to learning and we need to give our professional input to how this can be done and leave the politics to those who are experts in the field, ours should be to give direction on how it can be implemented.

The acquisition of
basic computing skills by any set of children can be achieved through
incidental learning provided the learners are given access to a suitable computing facility, with entertaining and motivating content and some minimal (human) guidance. --

Dr. Sugata Mitra, Chief Scientist at NIIT

This explains why India is an ICT giant and we are not.

Regards

https://www.google.com/search?q=hole+in+the+wall+experiment&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a


?
Robert Yawe
KAY System Technologies Ltd
Phoenix House, 6th Floor
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
Kenya


Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696


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From: Warigia Bowman <warigia@gmail.com>
To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Sent: Friday, 14 June 2013, 9:49
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 5 : Ensuring Effective Implementation of the Laptop Project - The Key Variables (Day 5:Wrap up and Way Forward (Key declarations, what next)



For the laptop program to truly be effective, we must ensure first, that all primary school supplements are disbursed by the government in a timely manner, so that children can start learning, irrespective of socio-economic status. ?

Let me reiterate my concern that until we get the basics right, laptops wont improve matters.?


Second, we must ensure that students are learning in appropriate surroundings. Are buildings present, clean and safe? Is some kind of rudimentary library available??

Third, we must ensure that teacher training is at adequate levels in basic topics. ?

Fourth, without electricity, all of this laptop mania is pointless. Are steady streams of electricity available at implementation sites??

Fifth, is Internet freely available at implementation sites? Who is paying for the Internet??

Sixth, is there a clear curriculum??

Seventh, are teachers and students being trained on the proper care, and maintenance of equipment??

Finally, is there an environmentally appropriate means of disposal, refurbishment, and recycling when laptops reach the end of their life cycle.?



On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Victor Gathara <vgathara@vimak.co.ke> wrote:

Barack,
>
>
>I think its fair to say that most IT projects that fail really do so as a result of project management failure so a strong project (or programme?) management function needs to be built into this project.?
>
>
>As an example there is the question of quality assurance. How will we ensure that the project delivers a quality 'product'? Also how will success (or failure) of the project will be measured? I think its important that an objective quality assessment be done at regular points in the project life-cycle to monitor progress and introduce changes if required.?
>
>
>If it is rolled out as a project then it really must have an end (when the project closed down and hands over to the operational regime where laptops are just as essential in classroom as textbooks)...It would be important to work out what that regime would be...
>
>
>
>Victor
>
>
>
>On 13 June 2013 23:46, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Listers,
>>
>>Many thanks to all who have contributed to this weeks discussion the threads are still open, today we discuss any issues that are significant to the project and that may have been overlooked, the discussion is open.
>>
>>
>>Best Regards
>>
>>
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>>+254721325277
>>+254-20-2498789
>>Skype: barrack.otieno
>>http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/
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