Re: [kictanet] Cybercrime and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014
James, , Listers I hope that the policy document which informed the drafting of the Bill will also be made available so that the public can participate meaningfully while discussing the Bill. Does any lister recall public consultation on such a policy? John Kariuki Sent from Samsung Mobile -------- Original message -------- From: James Kulubi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: To: ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cybercrime and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014 Although I have not read this Bill, I believe that there is something fundamentally wrong with the procedure followed during its development. Law enforcement agencies, the judiciary and the prosecutor should ordinarily not be allowed to initiate laws. They are likely to trample on the citizen's rights by making laws that make their job easier. How come that government agencies have a legal mandate to develop policy and its implementing instruments (legislation and regulations) are silent on this matter? Where are these bodies Law Reform Commission, National Communication Secretariat, ICT Authority,KIPPRA, etc. Prof. James Kulubi -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 20/6/14, Gideon via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Subject: [kictanet] Cybercrime and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014 To: jkulubi@yahoo.co.uk Date: Friday, 20 June, 2014, 8:51 Thanks Victor, The Nation article says that, Courts in the country will soon have jurisdiction to try any Kenyan citizen who commits an offence anywhere in the world if the Cybercrime and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014 becomes law. A copy of the bill will be helpful for all those interested. Anyone with that bill kindly avail it. Regards Gideon Rop There was a story in the Nation - Tough law on cybercrime targets all Kenyans - http://www.nation.co.ke/news/cybercrime-Bill-Kenyans-around-the-world-prosec... Can someone share a copy of the bill? Victor Kapiyo, LL.B ==================================================== *"Your attitude, not your aptitude, will determine your altitude" Zig Ziglar*
Just wondering, which Information Risks / Information Security consultants, were the stakeholders when this bill was getting prepared. On 6/24/14, ngethe.kariuki2007 via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
James, , Listers I hope that the policy document which informed the drafting of the Bill will also be made available so that the public can participate meaningfully while discussing the Bill. Does any lister recall public consultation on such a policy?
John Kariuki
Sent from Samsung Mobile
-------- Original message -------- From: James Kulubi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: To: ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cybercrime and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014
Although I have not read this Bill, I believe that there is something fundamentally wrong with the procedure followed during its development. Law enforcement agencies, the judiciary and the prosecutor should ordinarily not be allowed to initiate laws. They are likely to trample on the citizen's rights by making laws that make their job easier. How come that government agencies have a legal mandate to develop policy and its implementing instruments (legislation and regulations) are silent on this matter? Where are these bodies Law Reform Commission, National Communication Secretariat, ICT Authority,KIPPRA, etc. Prof. James Kulubi
-------------------------------------------- On Fri, 20/6/14, Gideon via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Subject: [kictanet] Cybercrime and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014 To: jkulubi@yahoo.co.uk Date: Friday, 20 June, 2014, 8:51
Thanks Victor,
The Nation article says that, Courts in the country will soon have jurisdiction to try any Kenyan citizen who commits an offence anywhere in the world if the Cybercrime and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014 becomes law.
A copy of the bill will be helpful for all those interested. Anyone with that bill kindly avail it.
Regards
Gideon Rop
There was a story in the Nation - Tough law on cybercrime targets all
Kenyans -
http://www.nation.co.ke/news/cybercrime-Bill-Kenyans-around-the-world-prosec...
Can someone share a copy of the bill?
Victor Kapiyo, LL.B
====================================================
*"Your attitude, not your aptitude, will determine your altitude" Zig
Ziglar*
True that @Chuksjonia, Am not sure if one of the leading global Info-Security organisations www.ISACA.org with a Kenyan chapter @ www.isaca.or.ke having over 1,000 registered IS professionals was involved. If not, what a wasted opportunity to harvest local knowledge to address local challenges. walu. -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 6/25/14, Gichuki John Chuksjonia via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cybercrime and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014 To: jwalu@yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2014, 10:38 AM Just wondering, which Information Risks / Information Security consultants, were the stakeholders when this bill was getting prepared. On 6/24/14, ngethe.kariuki2007 via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
James, ,
Listers
I hope that the policy document which informed the drafting of the Bill will also be made available so that the public can participate meaningfully while
discussing the Bill.
Does any lister recall public consultation on such a policy?
John Kariuki
Sent from Samsung Mobile
-------- Original message -------- From: James Kulubi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: To: ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cybercrime and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014
Although I have not read this Bill, I believe that there is something
enforcement agencies,
be allowed to initiate laws. They are
fundamentally wrong with the procedure followed during its development. Law the judiciary and the prosecutor should ordinarily not likely to trample on the citizen's
rights by making laws that make their job easier. How come that government
agencies have a legal mandate to develop policy and its implementing instruments (legislation and regulations) are silent on this matter? Where are these bodies Law Reform Commission, National Communication Secretariat, ICT Authority,KIPPRA, etc. Prof. James Kulubi
On Fri, 20/6/14, Gideon via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Subject: [kictanet] Cybercrime and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014 To: jkulubi@yahoo.co.uk Date: Friday, 20 June, 2014, 8:51
Thanks Victor,
The Nation article says that, Courts in
-------------------------------------------- the country will
soon have jurisdiction to try any Kenyan citizen who commits an offence anywhere in the world if the
Cybercrime
and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014 becomes law.
A copy of the
bill will be helpful for all those interested. Anyone with that bill kindly avail it.
Regards
Gideon Rop
There was a story in
the Nation - Tough law on cybercrime
targets all
Kenyans -
http://www.nation.co.ke/news/cybercrime-Bill-Kenyans-around-the-world-prosec...
Can someone share a
copy of the bill?
Victor Kapiyo, LL.B
====================================================
*"Your attitude, not your aptitude, will
altitude" Zig
Ziglar*
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Walu, No pun intended, but maybe Isaca.or.ke should ask for or organize a seminar for the public officials behind the bill. Per diems for a local event may be less than those for attending International seminars but may win some goodwill around the same. On Jun 25, 2014 12:18 PM, "Walubengo J via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
True that @Chuksjonia,
Am not sure if one of the leading global Info-Security organisations www.ISACA.org with a Kenyan chapter @ www.isaca.or.ke having over 1,000 registered IS professionals was involved.
If not, what a wasted opportunity to harvest local knowledge to address local challenges.
walu.
-------------------------------------------- On Wed, 6/25/14, Gichuki John Chuksjonia via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cybercrime and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014 To: jwalu@yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2014, 10:38 AM
Just wondering, which Information Risks / Information Security consultants, were the stakeholders when this bill was getting prepared.
On 6/24/14, ngethe.kariuki2007 via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
James, ,
Listers
I hope that the policy document which informed the drafting of the Bill will also be made available so that the public can participate meaningfully while
discussing the Bill.
Does any lister recall public consultation on such a policy?
John Kariuki
Sent from Samsung Mobile
-------- Original message -------- From: James Kulubi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: To: ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cybercrime and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014
Although I have not read this Bill, I believe that there is something
enforcement agencies,
be allowed to initiate laws. They are
fundamentally wrong with the procedure followed during its development. Law the judiciary and the prosecutor should ordinarily not likely to trample on the citizen's
rights by making laws that make their job easier. How come that government
agencies have a legal mandate to develop policy and its implementing instruments (legislation and regulations) are silent on this matter? Where are these bodies Law Reform Commission, National Communication Secretariat, ICT Authority,KIPPRA, etc. Prof. James Kulubi
On Fri, 20/6/14, Gideon via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Subject: [kictanet] Cybercrime and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014 To: jkulubi@yahoo.co.uk Date: Friday, 20 June, 2014, 8:51
Thanks Victor,
The Nation article says that, Courts in
-------------------------------------------- the country will
soon have jurisdiction to try any Kenyan citizen who commits an offence anywhere in the world if the
Cybercrime
and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014 becomes law.
A copy of the
bill will be helpful for all those interested. Anyone with that bill kindly avail it.
Regards
Gideon Rop
There was a story in
the Nation - Tough law on cybercrime
targets all
Kenyans -
http://www.nation.co.ke/news/cybercrime-Bill-Kenyans-around-the-world-prosec...
Can someone share a
copy of the bill?
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Not just isaca, we have other security professionals groups, like the techinical Hackers group called AfricaHackon and soo many others, who can shed light on so much about Risks that organization face, in a practical manner. On 6/25/14, S.M. Muraya via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Walu,
No pun intended, but maybe Isaca.or.ke should ask for or organize a seminar for the public officials behind the bill.
Per diems for a local event may be less than those for attending International seminars but may win some goodwill around the same. On Jun 25, 2014 12:18 PM, "Walubengo J via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
True that @Chuksjonia,
Am not sure if one of the leading global Info-Security organisations www.ISACA.org with a Kenyan chapter @ www.isaca.or.ke having over 1,000 registered IS professionals was involved.
If not, what a wasted opportunity to harvest local knowledge to address local challenges.
walu.
-------------------------------------------- On Wed, 6/25/14, Gichuki John Chuksjonia via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cybercrime and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014 To: jwalu@yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2014, 10:38 AM
Just wondering, which Information Risks / Information Security consultants, were the stakeholders when this bill was getting prepared.
On 6/24/14, ngethe.kariuki2007 via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
James, ,
Listers
I hope that the policy document which informed the drafting of the Bill will also be made available so that the public can participate meaningfully while
discussing the Bill.
Does any lister recall public consultation on such a policy?
John Kariuki
Sent from Samsung Mobile
-------- Original message -------- From: James Kulubi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: To: ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cybercrime and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014
Although I have not read this Bill, I believe that there is something
enforcement agencies,
be allowed to initiate laws. They are
fundamentally wrong with the procedure followed during its development. Law the judiciary and the prosecutor should ordinarily not likely to trample on the citizen's
rights by making laws that make their job easier. How come that government
agencies have a legal mandate to develop policy and its implementing instruments (legislation and regulations) are silent on this matter? Where are these bodies Law Reform Commission, National Communication Secretariat, ICT Authority,KIPPRA, etc. Prof. James Kulubi
On Fri, 20/6/14, Gideon via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Subject: [kictanet] Cybercrime and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014 To: jkulubi@yahoo.co.uk Date: Friday, 20 June, 2014, 8:51
Thanks Victor,
The Nation article says that, Courts in
-------------------------------------------- the country will
soon have jurisdiction to try any Kenyan citizen who commits an offence anywhere in the world if the
Cybercrime
and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014 becomes law.
A copy of the
bill will be helpful for all those interested. Anyone with that bill kindly avail it.
Regards
Gideon Rop
There was a story in
the Nation - Tough law on cybercrime
targets all
Kenyans -
http://www.nation.co.ke/news/cybercrime-Bill-Kenyans-around-the-world-prosec...
Can someone share a
copy of the bill?
Victor Kapiyo, LL.B
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+2 @ Muraya. This is our number one problem - too much knowledge going to waste because nobody wants to leave their comfort zone. Instead of waiting for the government to call for proposals and always complaining about not having been consulted, the various professional bodies could work on proposals through their own initiative and work them into the political system. Hats off to those that I have seen do this already. *./Kamonye* On 25 June 2014 13:10, Gichuki John Chuksjonia via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Not just isaca, we have other security professionals groups, like the techinical Hackers group called AfricaHackon and soo many others, who can shed light on so much about Risks that organization face, in a practical manner.
On 6/25/14, S.M. Muraya via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Walu,
No pun intended, but maybe Isaca.or.ke should ask for or organize a seminar for the public officials behind the bill.
Per diems for a local event may be less than those for attending International seminars but may win some goodwill around the same. On Jun 25, 2014 12:18 PM, "Walubengo J via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
True that @Chuksjonia,
Am not sure if one of the leading global Info-Security organisations www.ISACA.org with a Kenyan chapter @ www.isaca.or.ke having over 1,000 registered IS professionals was involved.
If not, what a wasted opportunity to harvest local knowledge to address local challenges.
walu.
-------------------------------------------- On Wed, 6/25/14, Gichuki John Chuksjonia via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cybercrime and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014 To: jwalu@yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2014, 10:38 AM
Just wondering, which Information Risks / Information Security consultants, were the stakeholders when this bill was getting prepared.
On 6/24/14, ngethe.kariuki2007 via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
James, ,
Listers
I hope that the policy document which informed the drafting of the Bill will also be made available so that the public can participate meaningfully while
discussing the Bill.
Does any lister recall public consultation on such a policy?
John Kariuki
Sent from Samsung Mobile
-------- Original message -------- From: James Kulubi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: To: ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cybercrime and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014
Although I have not read this Bill, I believe that there is something
enforcement agencies,
be allowed to initiate laws. They are
fundamentally wrong with the procedure followed during its development. Law the judiciary and the prosecutor should ordinarily not likely to trample on the citizen's
rights by making laws that make their job easier. How come that government
agencies have a legal mandate to develop policy and its implementing instruments (legislation and regulations) are silent on this matter? Where are these bodies Law Reform Commission, National Communication Secretariat, ICT Authority,KIPPRA, etc. Prof. James Kulubi
On Fri, 20/6/14, Gideon via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Subject: [kictanet] Cybercrime and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014 To: jkulubi@yahoo.co.uk Date: Friday, 20 June, 2014, 8:51
Thanks Victor,
The Nation article says that, Courts in
-------------------------------------------- the country will
soon have jurisdiction to try any Kenyan citizen who commits an offence anywhere in the world if the
Cybercrime
and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014 becomes law.
A copy of the
bill will be helpful for all those interested. Anyone with that bill kindly avail it.
Regards
Gideon Rop
There was a story in
the Nation - Tough law on cybercrime
targets all
Kenyans -
http://www.nation.co.ke/news/cybercrime-Bill-Kenyans-around-the-world-prosec...
Can someone share a
copy of the bill?
Victor Kapiyo, LL.B
====================================================
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altitude" Zig
Ziglar*
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@Murigi, Agreed. ISACA-Kenya or any other organisation may wish to contribute. But government must first avail the working (draft?) documents. Anyone with the Policy and/or proposed Cyvercrime bill? I only managed to see the draft Cybecrime strategy that was shared @ ConnectedKenya. walu. nb: problem with working on something without a formal invitation is that you face a high-risk of rejection. I.e your contribution may join a list of other neatly filed and frozen strategies that never see the light of day :-) -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 6/25/14, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cybercrime and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014 To: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2014, 12:46 PM Walu, No pun intended, but maybe Isaca.or.ke should ask for or organize a seminar for the public officials behind the bill. Per diems for a local event may be less than those for attending International seminars but may win some goodwill around the same. On Jun 25, 2014 12:18 PM, "Walubengo J via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: True that @Chuksjonia, Am not sure if one of the leading global Info-Security organisations www.ISACA.org with a Kenyan chapter @ www.isaca.or.ke having over 1,000 registered IS professionals was involved. If not, what a wasted opportunity to harvest local knowledge to address local challenges. walu. -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 6/25/14, Gichuki John Chuksjonia via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cybercrime and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014 To: jwalu@yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2014, 10:38 AM Just wondering, which Information Risks / Information Security consultants, were the stakeholders when this bill was getting prepared. On 6/24/14, ngethe.kariuki2007 via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > James, , Listers > I hope that the policy document which informed the drafting of the Bill will > also be made available so that the public can participate meaningfully while > discussing the Bill. > Does any lister recall public consultation on such a policy? > > John Kariuki > > Sent from Samsung Mobile > > -------- Original message -------- > From: James Kulubi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Date: > To: ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cybercrime and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014 > > Although I have not read this Bill, I believe that there is something > fundamentally wrong with the procedure followed during its development. Law > enforcement agencies, the judiciary and the prosecutor should ordinarily not > be allowed to initiate laws. They are likely to trample on the citizen's > rights by making laws that make their job easier. How come that government > agencies have a legal mandate to develop policy and its implementing > instruments (legislation and regulations) are silent on this matter? Where > are these bodies Law Reform Commission, National Communication Secretariat, > ICT Authority,KIPPRA, etc. > Prof. James Kulubi > > > -------------------------------------------- > On Fri, 20/6/14, Gideon via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > Subject: [kictanet] Cybercrime and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014 > To: jkulubi@yahoo.co.uk > Date: Friday, 20 June, 2014, 8:51 > > Thanks > Victor, > > The Nation article says that, Courts in the country will > soon have jurisdiction to try any Kenyan > citizen who commits an offence anywhere in the world if the > Cybercrime > and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014 becomes law. > > A copy of the > bill will be helpful for all those interested. Anyone with > that bill kindly avail it. > > > > Regards > > > Gideon Rop > > > > > > > > > There was a story in the Nation - Tough law on cybercrime > targets all > > Kenyans - > > > > > > http://www.nation.co.ke/news/cybercrime-Bill-Kenyans-around-the-world-prosec... > > > > Can someone share a copy of the bill? > > > > > > > > Victor Kapiyo, LL.B > > > > ==================================================== > > *"Your > attitude, not your aptitude, will determine your > altitude" Zig > > Ziglar* > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: > <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20140620/fa908678/attachment.html> > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > _______________________________________________ > > kictanet mailing list > > kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of kictanet Digest, Vol 85, Issue 60 > > **************************************** > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jkulubi%40yahoo.co.uk > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a > multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions > interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- -- Gichuki John Ndirangu, C.E.H , C.P.T.P, O.S.C.P I.T Security Analyst and Penetration Tester jgichuki at inbox d0t com {FORUM}http://lists.my.co.ke/pipermail/security/ http://chuksjonia.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/murigi.muraya%40gmail.... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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Gichuki John Chuksjonia -
Kevin K. Kamonye -
ngethe.kariuki2007 -
S.M. Muraya -
Walubengo J