Walu,

No pun intended, but maybe Isaca.or.ke should ask for or organize a seminar for the public officials behind the bill.

Per diems for a local event may be less than those for attending International seminars but may win some goodwill around the same.

On Jun 25, 2014 12:18 PM, "Walubengo J via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
True that @Chuksjonia,

Am not sure if one of the leading global Info-Security organisations www.ISACA.org with a Kenyan chapter @   www.isaca.or.ke  having over 1,000 registered IS professionals was involved.

If not, what a wasted opportunity to harvest local knowledge to address local challenges.

walu.

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On Wed, 6/25/14, Gichuki John Chuksjonia via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cybercrime and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014
 To: jwalu@yahoo.com
 Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2014, 10:38 AM

 Just wondering, which
 Information Risks / Information Security
 consultants, were the stakeholders when this
 bill was getting
 prepared.




 On 6/24/14, ngethe.kariuki2007
 via kictanet
 <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
 wrote:
 >
 > James, ,
 Listers
 > I hope that the policy document
 which informed the drafting of the Bill will
 > also be made available so that the public
 can participate meaningfully while
 >
 discussing the Bill.
 > Does any lister
 recall public consultation on such a policy?
 >
 > John Kariuki
 >
 > Sent from Samsung
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 > From: James
 Kulubi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
 > Date:
 > To: ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk
 > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cybercrime and
 Computer Crimes Bill, 2014
 >
 > Although I have not read this Bill, I
 believe that there is something
 >
 fundamentally wrong with the procedure followed during its
 development. Law
 > enforcement agencies,
 the judiciary and the prosecutor should ordinarily not
 > be allowed to initiate laws. They are
 likely to trample on the citizen's
 >
 rights by making laws that make their job  easier. How come
 that government
 > agencies have a legal
 mandate to develop policy and  its implementing
 > instruments (legislation and
 regulations)  are silent on this matter? Where
 > are these bodies  Law Reform Commission,
 National Communication Secretariat,
 > ICT
 Authority,KIPPRA, etc.
 > Prof. James
 Kulubi
 >
 >
 >
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 > On Fri, 20/6/14, Gideon via kictanet
 <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
 wrote:
 >
 > Subject:
 [kictanet] Cybercrime and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014
 > To: jkulubi@yahoo.co.uk
 > Date: Friday, 20 June, 2014, 8:51
 >
 > Thanks
 > Victor,
 >
 > The Nation article says that, Courts in
 the country will
 > soon have jurisdiction
 to try any Kenyan
 > citizen who commits
 an offence anywhere in the world if the
 >
 Cybercrime
 > and Computer Crimes Bill,
 2014 becomes law.
 >
 >
 A copy of the
 > bill will be helpful for
 all those interested. Anyone with
 > that
 bill kindly avail it.
 >
 >
 >
 >
 Regards
 >
 >
 > Gideon Rop
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > There was a story in
 the Nation - Tough law on cybercrime
 >
 targets all
 >
 >
 Kenyans -
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > http://www.nation.co.ke/news/cybercrime-Bill-Kenyans-around-the-world-prosecution/-/1056/2352702/-/9djlz/-/index.html
 >
 >
 >
 > Can someone share a
 copy of the bill?
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 Victor Kapiyo, LL.B
 >
 >
 >
 >
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