Procedure for appointment?
I think in future it may prudent to direct questions to the source on issues such as Board Appointment. In the past, it was purely the prerogative of the President and the Minister to appoint even the MD. This has since changed and we want it to change even further to enable stakeholders to nominate potential candidates. If you carefully scrutinize the ICT Board and Management appointment, you will see our rationale. The CEO went through a vetting process by Delloite. The Minister only confirmed the outcome. We needed both the CEO and the Chairperson to be both marketers and have some knowledge of ICT to market our country as an outsource destination. The Board appointments were made in such a way to accomodate most of the stakeholders and also takes into account on such issues as Gender, diversity (age, race, religion, public/private etc). With all these variables, it is not difficult to annoy a few in the process. What needs to be done is to have a legal requirement as we have done with the Film Commission that the stakeholders nominate. But even in this case some stakeholders are not permanent entities or are not recognized by all. In my view Kicktanet is a wonderful organization but it has remained a virtual club. We need to move its agenda a notch higher to create interface between policy making and the citizenry. I have given my views on this to the consultant but we should one day have an holds barred seminar to reform this noble organization. Regards Bitange Ndemo.
I believe the board members have terms and more people will have an opportunity to serve in future.
The board is new and it is not necessarily that membership is on reward basis. Its about work! We shall be definitely challenging. Thats how i see it.
Muthoni
On 8/13/07, Lizette Kraft <lfkraft@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Walu,
No one ever had the thought that there wasn't other talent out there, but considering she was a founder of the organisation or whatever it is known as, should have at least given it some consideration don't you think. As I said, we don't know how the board was put together, whether through nomination or whatever, (some of us didn't see this at all to even comment on), but besides that what other factors where there that overrode the
The question still remains, how was this done???? When I brought up the question about Dr. Florence Etta, it was on the basis of her experience and being the key founder of this noble organisation. Also that she was involved in the marketing of this organisation and one or more of the donors to KICTANET have been achieved through her connections and skills in bring them on board. All in all my question hasn't been answered todate. thanks and appreciate the input of comments people have made and agree with them but we still need answers. On 8/14/07, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
I think in future it may prudent to direct questions to the source on issues such as Board Appointment. In the past, it was purely the prerogative of the President and the Minister to appoint even the MD.
This has since changed and we want it to change even further to enable stakeholders to nominate potential candidates. If you carefully scrutinize the ICT Board and Management appointment, you will see our rationale. The CEO went through a vetting process by Delloite. The Minister only confirmed the outcome. We needed both the CEO and the Chairperson to be both marketers and have some knowledge of ICT to market our country as an outsource destination.
The Board appointments were made in such a way to accomodate most of the stakeholders and also takes into account on such issues as Gender, diversity (age, race, religion, public/private etc). With all these variables, it is not difficult to annoy a few in the process. What needs to be done is to have a legal requirement as we have done with the Film Commission that the stakeholders nominate. But even in this case some stakeholders are not permanent entities or are not recognized by all.
In my view Kicktanet is a wonderful organization but it has remained a virtual club. We need to move its agenda a notch higher to create interface between policy making and the citizenry. I have given my views on this to the consultant but we should one day have an holds barred seminar to reform this noble organization.
Regards
Bitange Ndemo.
I believe the board members have terms and more people will have an opportunity to serve in future.
The board is new and it is not necessarily that membership is on reward basis. Its about work! We shall be definitely challenging. Thats how i see it.
Muthoni
On 8/13/07, Lizette Kraft <lfkraft@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Walu,
No one ever had the thought that there wasn't other talent out there, but considering she was a founder of the organisation or whatever it is known as, should have at least given it some consideration don't you think.
As
I said, we don't know how the board was put together, whether through nomination or whatever, (some of us didn't see this at all to even comment on), but besides that what other factors where there that overrode the
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Lizette I take this opportunity to respond to your concerns . At time a prophet is known in their vicinity. i happened to work as a Project assistant of Dr Etta in the Kenya ICT policy project, and with you too , set up Kiplist but this was all based on TOR for the project under IDRC and i dont beleive that this tricles down to other operation based on countrys ways of operations. The nominations are all in the domain of the country concerned. Support received from active participants who were employess of a donor doesnt qualify them to be part and parcel of what they inciated..Assuming we were all non Kenyan? Could u have raised then concens? and more so country based developed has to be effected by the countrymen and women whom takes the responsibility and accountability of the same......not to say others should not be involved any way !!! In simple terms, i guess the nomination is in order . Lizette Kraft <lfkraft@gmail.com> wrote: The question still remains, how was this done???? When I brought up the question about Dr. Florence Etta, it was on the basis of her experience and being the key founder of this noble organisation. Also that she was involved in the marketing of this organisation and one or more of the donors to KICTANET have been achieved through her connections and skills in bring them on board. All in all my question hasn't been answered todate. thanks and appreciate the input of comments people have made and agree with them but we still need answers. On 8/14/07, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: I think in future it may prudent to direct questions to the source on issues such as Board Appointment. In the past, it was purely the prerogative of the President and the Minister to appoint even the MD. This has since changed and we want it to change even further to enable stakeholders to nominate potential candidates. If you carefully scrutinize the ICT Board and Management appointment, you will see our rationale. The CEO went through a vetting process by Delloite. The Minister only confirmed the outcome. We needed both the CEO and the Chairperson to be both marketers and have some knowledge of ICT to market our country as an outsource destination. The Board appointments were made in such a way to accomodate most of the stakeholders and also takes into account on such issues as Gender, diversity (age, race, religion, public/private etc). With all these variables, it is not difficult to annoy a few in the process. What needs to be done is to have a legal requirement as we have done with the Film Commission that the stakeholders nominate. But even in this case some stakeholders are not permanent entities or are not recognized by all. In my view Kicktanet is a wonderful organization but it has remained a virtual club. We need to move its agenda a notch higher to create interface between policy making and the citizenry. I have given my views on this to the consultant but we should one day have an holds barred seminar to reform this noble organization. Regards Bitange Ndemo.
I believe the board members have terms and more people will have an opportunity to serve in future.
The board is new and it is not necessarily that membership is on reward basis. Its about work! We shall be definitely challenging. Thats how i see it.
Muthoni
On 8/13/07, Lizette Kraft <lfkraft@gmail.com > wrote:
Hi Walu,
No one ever had the thought that there wasn't other talent out there, but considering she was a founder of the organisation or whatever it is known as, should have at least given it some consideration don't you think. As I said, we don't know how the board was put together, whether through nomination or whatever, (some of us didn't see this at all to even comment on), but besides that what other factors where there that overrode the
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Thank you P.S. Ndemo for raising the issue of KICTANet's role etc KICTANet is currently conducting an institutional assessment exercise supported by the IDRC. This exercise will respond/answer some of the issues presented by the P.S. among others. The objective of the assessment will be to establish KICTANet’s organizational strengths and weaknesses, and to develop specific recommendations of areas that will require institutional strengthening. This will help ensure that the network continues to provide effective mechanisms for cooperation and collaboration between stakeholders in support of ICT-led growth and development in Kenya. We do need to understand the network's present capacity, identify gaps and look for ways of addressing them. We certainly need a one/two day forum to strategise on reforming,/strengthening KICTANet. best alice
In my view Kicktanet is a wonderful organization but it has remained a virtual club. We need to move its agenda a notch higher to create interface between policy making and the citizenry. I have given my views on this to the consultant but we should one day have an holds barred seminar to reform this noble organization.
pursuant to the email below, KICTANet wishes to invite five members on the mailing list to join a team that will be deliberating for two days at a venue out of town, on August 29 to September 1 2007 for the sake of accountability, the criteria will be first come first served... please confirm with me directly, regards becky alice <alice@apc.org> wrote: Thank you P.S. Ndemo for raising the issue of KICTANet's role etc KICTANet is currently conducting an institutional assessment exercise supported by the IDRC. This exercise will respond/answer some of the issues presented by the P.S. among others. The objective of the assessment will be to establish KICTANets organizational strengths and weaknesses, and to develop specific recommendations of areas that will require institutional strengthening. This will help ensure that the network continues to provide effective mechanisms for cooperation and collaboration between stakeholders in support of ICT-led growth and development in Kenya. We do need to understand the network's present capacity, identify gaps and look for ways of addressing them. We certainly need a one/two day forum to strategise on reforming,/strengthening KICTANet. best alice
In my view Kicktanet is a wonderful organization but it has remained a virtual club. We need to move its agenda a notch higher to create interface between policy making and the citizenry. I have given my views on this to the consultant but we should one day have an holds barred seminar to reform this noble organization.
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Alice As kictanet tries to be appraised and at the same time appraise itself, i believe the following is vital 1, is kicanet a project or progrmme of various project activities ? in any case what is the := (a) scope and how well is this stipulated and communicated to the stakeholders? (b)Maturity model status based on years of operation ( initial, repeatable,defined, managed and optimized status).what does the list pride itself of? (c)Governance model in realization of scope and model all together, maturity in relation to various aspects and phases of the same ? (d) Relationship to other displines ( skills and capacity building, general management, ICT environment knowledge and prractice and relevance to the indursty situation) (e) Ramification in relation to the current ICT best practices and ICT environmnet in Kenya generally I beleive the list has been very necesssary to the ICT sector in kenya and has contributed alot in relaization of the the open space we are experiencing today Else...i beleive at one point the legality of the list was brought to the open...if i can still recollect well..Else it all abought how the objectives of the initiative have been aligned to the general view and welbeing of iCt environment in Kenya and how applicable it has been to the stakeholkers which is undistubutable.. Regards alice <alice@apc.org> wrote: Thank you P.S. Ndemo for raising the issue of KICTANet's role etc KICTANet is currently conducting an institutional assessment exercise supported by the IDRC. This exercise will respond/answer some of the issues presented by the P.S. among others. The objective of the assessment will be to establish KICTANets organizational strengths and weaknesses, and to develop specific recommendations of areas that will require institutional strengthening. This will help ensure that the network continues to provide effective mechanisms for cooperation and collaboration between stakeholders in support of ICT-led growth and development in Kenya. We do need to understand the network's present capacity, identify gaps and look for ways of addressing them. We certainly need a one/two day forum to strategise on reforming,/strengthening KICTANet. best alice
In my view Kicktanet is a wonderful organization but it has remained a virtual club. We need to move its agenda a notch higher to create interface between policy making and the citizenry. I have given my views on this to the consultant but we should one day have an holds barred seminar to reform this noble organization.
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