For VoD services, it is easy to add local content to their portfolio - nobody has to actually watch it! (if they don't want to!) - so they can easily achieve any target % they have to meet. It's very different for broadcasters, though. Any initiative which will improve and broaden our local content is welcome. I would like to see some local SciFi, sit-coms, thrillers etc. instead of a steadily increasing stream of boring soaps! Cheers, Tony On 26/05/2016, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Not to mention:-

1. Mother in Law 2. Tahidi High 3. Tushauriane 4. And others..

:-)

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On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 10:22 AM, Waithaka Ngigi <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:

...

Lots of sense. Can you imagine if Vioja, Vitimbi, Tahamaki All Episodes were‎ on Netflix?

Waithaka Ngigi

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Ahmed

Makes sense for us too..

#JustSaying..

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On 26 May 2016, at 8:09 AM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy < ultimateprogramer@gmail.com> wrote:

Well.. they not only have but also actively encourage and develop local capacity to rival such products. For them I suppose it makes sense.

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 6:15 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

The EU announced plans to free internet shopping and ban geo-fencing. Netflix and Amazon are to adhere to a 20% local content requirement (Seems like these guys are case studying Kenya). :-)

Read on:-

http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/2016/05/eu-plans-free-internet-shopping-...

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Quotas is one thing what about free trade and demand from customers, have the regulators checked the consumer demand. We work with a triple play provider in the Middle East and they have a 1,000 channels and n-VOD / VOD services. We found that some of the channels would have been watched by 1 person may be once a month, some of the VOD assets never watched. Therefore, the measure here is customer demand and organisations like Netflix are focused on the customer and have experts who evaluate your viewing habits to push content that you might like to watch and further work a away out to keep the customer loyal. Not too sure what the Europeans are trying to promote in terms of local content that is poor, why doesn't European Union spend on marketing local content under a scheme of some sort. This will create demand not imposing a restriction on commercial organisations, think this is the wrong approach to begin with. May be they need to justify to the public they are doing something! Thanks, Best Regards, Baiju

On 26 May 2016, at 11:58, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Why are they not on Netflix ? :)

...

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Tony White via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: For VoD services, it is easy to add local content to their portfolio - nobody has to actually watch it! (if they don't want to!) - so they can easily achieve any target % they have to meet. It's very different for broadcasters, though.

Any initiative which will improve and broaden our local content is welcome. I would like to see some local SciFi, sit-coms, thrillers etc. instead of a steadily increasing stream of boring soaps!

Cheers, Tony

On 26/05/2016, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

Not to mention:-

1. Mother in Law 2. Tahidi High 3. Tushauriane 4. And others..

:-)

Regards

*Ali Hussein*

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On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 10:22 AM, Waithaka Ngigi <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:

...

Lots of sense. Can you imagine if Vioja, Vitimbi, Tahamaki All Episodes were‎ on Netflix?

Waithaka Ngigi

Alliance Technologies www.at.co.ke *From: *Ali Hussein via kictanet *Sent: *Thursday, May 26, 2016 9:52 AM *To: *Ngigi Waithaka *Reply To: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Cc: *Ali Hussein; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] EU PLANS TO LIFT BARRIERS ON INTERNET SHOPPING AND IMPOSE QUOTAS ON NETFLIX

Ahmed

Makes sense for us too..

#JustSaying..

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On 26 May 2016, at 8:09 AM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy < ultimateprogramer@gmail.com> wrote:

Well.. they not only have but also actively encourage and develop local capacity to rival such products. For them I suppose it makes sense.

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 6:15 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

The EU announced plans to free internet shopping and ban geo-fencing. Netflix and Amazon are to adhere to a 20% local content requirement (Seems like these guys are case studying Kenya). :-)

Read on:-

http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/2016/05/eu-plans-free-internet-shopping-...

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Absolutely On May 27, 2016 1:31 PM, "Sean Moroney via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

These are issues we need to discuss at the 7th annual Broadcast, Film & Music Africa conference (BFMA) at KICC over 18-19 October.

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*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+seanm= aitecafrica.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Baiju Shah via kictanet *Sent:* Friday, May 27, 2016 7:31 AM *To:* seanm@aitecafrica.com *Cc:* Baiju Shah <baiju@telemedia.co.ke> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] EU PLANS TO LIFT BARRIERS ON INTERNET SHOPPING AND IMPOSE QUOTAS ON NETFLIX

Quotas is one thing what about free trade and demand from customers, have the regulators checked the consumer demand.

We work with a triple play provider in the Middle East and they have a 1,000 channels and n-VOD / VOD services.

We found that some of the channels would have been watched by 1 person may be once a month, some of the VOD assets never watched.

Therefore, the measure here is customer demand and organisations like Netflix are focused on the customer and have experts who evaluate your viewing habits to push content that you might like to watch and further work a away out to keep the customer loyal.

Not too sure what the Europeans are trying to promote in terms of local content that is poor, why doesn't European Union spend on marketing local content under a scheme of some sort. This will create demand not imposing a restriction on commercial organisations, think this is the wrong approach to begin with. May be they need to justify to the public they are doing something!

Thanks,

Best Regards,

Baiju

On 26 May 2016, at 11:58, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Why are they not on Netflix ? :)

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Tony White via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

For VoD services, it is easy to add local content to their portfolio - nobody has to actually watch it! (if they don't want to!) - so they can easily achieve any target % they have to meet. It's very different for broadcasters, though.

Any initiative which will improve and broaden our local content is welcome. I would like to see some local SciFi, sit-coms, thrillers etc. instead of a steadily increasing stream of boring soaps!

Cheers, Tony

On 26/05/2016, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

Not to mention:-

1. Mother in Law 2. Tahidi High 3. Tushauriane 4. And others..

:-)

Regards

*Ali Hussein*

*Principal*

*Hussein & Associates*

Tel: +254 713 601113

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On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 10:22 AM, Waithaka Ngigi <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:

...

Lots of sense. Can you imagine if Vioja, Vitimbi, Tahamaki All Episodes were‎ on Netflix?

Waithaka Ngigi

Alliance Technologies www.at.co.ke *From: *Ali Hussein via kictanet *Sent: *Thursday, May 26, 2016 9:52 AM *To: *Ngigi Waithaka *Reply To: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Cc: *Ali Hussein; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] EU PLANS TO LIFT BARRIERS ON INTERNET SHOPPING AND IMPOSE QUOTAS ON NETFLIX

Ahmed

Makes sense for us too..

#JustSaying..

*Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates*

...

...

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On 26 May 2016, at 8:09 AM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy < ultimateprogramer@gmail.com> wrote:

Well.. they not only have but also actively encourage and develop local capacity to rival such products. For them I suppose it makes sense.

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 6:15 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

The EU announced plans to free internet shopping and ban geo-fencing. Netflix and Amazon are to adhere to a 20% local content requirement (Seems like these guys are case studying Kenya). :-)

Read on:-

http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/2016/05/eu-plans-free-internet-shopping-...

...

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+ 1 Waithaka. And this should have been or still should be what we should negotiate with Netflix as opposed to insisting on subjecting them to our rules. Netflix should also carry a certain percentage of our local content. RgdsG Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 10:22:29 +0300 Subject: Re: [kictanet] EU PLANS TO LIFT BARRIERS ON INTERNET SHOPPING AND IMPOSE QUOTAS ON NETFLIX From: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke CC: ngigi@at.co.ke; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com Lots of sense. Can you imagine if Vioja, Vitimbi, Tahamaki All Episodes were‎ on Netflix? Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies www.at.co.ke From: Ali Hussein via kictanetSent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 9:52 AMTo: Ngigi WaithakaReply To: KICTAnet ICT Policy DiscussionsCc: Ali Hussein; KICTAnet ICT Policy DiscussionsSubject: Re: [kictanet] EU PLANS TO LIFT BARRIERS ON INTERNET SHOPPING AND IMPOSE QUOTAS ON NETFLIX Ahmed Makes sense for us too.. #JustSaying.. Ali HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates+254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad On 26 May 2016, at 8:09 AM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy <ultimateprogramer@gmail.com> wrote: Well.. they not only have but also actively encourage and develop local capacity to rival such products. For them I suppose it makes sense. On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 6:15 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: The EU announced plans to free internet shopping and ban geo-fencing. Netflix and Amazon are to adhere to a 20% local content requirement (Seems like these guys are case studying Kenya). :-) Read on:- http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/2016/05/eu-plans-free-internet-shopping-... Ali Hussein Tel: +254 713 601113 _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ultimateprogramer%40gm... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Ahmed Maawy Executive Director - SwahiliBox / M-Power (CBO) Ambassador - Open Knowledge Director - Startup Grind Mombasa Software Developer - AJ+ / EveryLayer (KE) +254 714 960 627 Skype: ultimateprogramer swahilibox.co.ke www.okfn.org startupgrind.com ajplus.net www.everylayer.com _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ggithaiga%40hotmail.co... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

Ahmed Actually you are wrong there. The top viewed programme in the country are not foreign. They are local. Papa Shirandula, Mother in Law, Tahidi High etc top the billing. It just makes commercial sense to have them on.. Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad

On 27 May 2016, at 8:52 PM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

I do agree with the notion Grace. I feel though the proposal to do so is not going to sell. Simply because you can not sell something that the local audience is not keen to watch any way. If the market can not show concrete local viewership in a place like Nairobi (to people who own a credit card - who are mostly on DSTV) then its going to be a tough sale.

...

On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: + 1 Waithaka. And this should have been or still should be what we should negotiate with Netflix as opposed to insisting on subjecting them to our rules. Netflix should also carry a certain percentage of our local content.

Rgds G

Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 10:22:29 +0300 Subject: Re: [kictanet] EU PLANS TO LIFT BARRIERS ON INTERNET SHOPPING AND IMPOSE QUOTAS ON NETFLIX From: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke CC: ngigi@at.co.ke; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com

Lots of sense. Can you imagine if Vioja, Vitimbi, Tahamaki All Episodes were‎ on Netflix?

Waithaka Ngigi

Alliance Technologies www.at.co.ke From: Ali Hussein via kictanet Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 9:52 AM To: Ngigi Waithaka Reply To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Cc: Ali Hussein; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] EU PLANS TO LIFT BARRIERS ON INTERNET SHOPPING AND IMPOSE QUOTAS ON NETFLIX

Ahmed

Makes sense for us too..

#JustSaying..

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On 26 May 2016, at 8:09 AM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy <ultimateprogramer@gmail.com> wrote:

Well.. they not only have but also actively encourage and develop local capacity to rival such products. For them I suppose it makes sense.

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 6:15 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: The EU announced plans to free internet shopping and ban geo-fencing. Netflix and Amazon are to adhere to a 20% local content requirement (Seems like these guys are case studying Kenya). :-)

Read on:-

http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/2016/05/eu-plans-free-internet-shopping-...

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Let it be not be understood that the content is not interesting. What I am pointing to here is the fact that we need to really put in a lot more effort to even make this content appealing for people who can go out and pay for it, right here in Kenya. Nairobi Half Life is a case study for the movie and content industry for content that has worked out. We need to follow the Nairobi Half Life case study keenly. Then Netflix follows. On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy < ultimateprogramer@gmail.com> wrote:

Well Ali I think we are differentiating here between an aired for free content and content people will need to pay for. And I can say this for free that the only content we have pirated for that as Kenyans is Nairobi Half Life. But we eagerly pirate Nollywood content. I think that says something already. Nollywood is already available on channels that are paid TV content and people actually watch.

I understand you are talking about Citizen TV aired content? Which has the best coverage countrywide? Lets analyze paid content - DSTV, Zuku, etc. These are demographics NetFlix will need to see. What is the habit of such people?

On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:

...

Ahmed

Actually you are wrong there. The top viewed programme in the country are not foreign. They are local.

Papa Shirandula, Mother in Law, Tahidi High etc top the billing. It just makes commercial sense to have them on..

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On 27 May 2016, at 8:52 PM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

I do agree with the notion Grace. I feel though the proposal to do so is not going to sell. Simply because you can not sell something that the local audience is not keen to watch any way. If the market can not show concrete local viewership in a place like Nairobi (to people who own a credit card - who are mostly on DSTV) then its going to be a tough sale.

On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

+ 1 Waithaka. And this should have been or still should be what we should negotiate with Netflix as opposed to insisting on subjecting them to our rules. Netflix should also carry a certain percentage of our local content.

Rgds G

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Lots of sense. Can you imagine if Vioja, Vitimbi, Tahamaki All Episodes were‎ on Netflix?

Waithaka Ngigi

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Ahmed

Makes sense for us too..

#JustSaying..

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On 26 May 2016, at 8:09 AM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy < ultimateprogramer@gmail.com> wrote:

Well.. they not only have but also actively encourage and develop local capacity to rival such products. For them I suppose it makes sense.

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 6:15 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

The EU announced plans to free internet shopping and ban geo-fencing. Netflix and Amazon are to adhere to a 20% local content requirement (Seems like these guys are case studying Kenya). :-)

Read on:-

http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/2016/05/eu-plans-free-internet-shopping-...

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That is an interesting way of looking at it (in terms of audience abroad). But then we still need to sell that concept to NetFlix. So some work to be done there :) On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 12:14 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:

Ahmed

As the people on this list who watch:-

1. House of Cards 2. Game of Thrones 3. Person of interest Etc

If they pay for them..

The point is there are many people beyond Kenya who amy be interested but may not know where to find them.

There is huge demand for local content. We just don't have enough of it and lack of platforms too..

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On 28 May 2016, at 11:26 AM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy < ultimateprogramer@gmail.com> wrote:

Well Ali I think we are differentiating here between an aired for free content and content people will need to pay for. And I can say this for free that the only content we have pirated for that as Kenyans is Nairobi Half Life. But we eagerly pirate Nollywood content. I think that says something already. Nollywood is already available on channels that are paid TV content and people actually watch.

I understand you are talking about Citizen TV aired content? Which has the best coverage countrywide? Lets analyze paid content - DSTV, Zuku, etc. These are demographics NetFlix will need to see. What is the habit of such people?

On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:

...

Ahmed

Actually you are wrong there. The top viewed programme in the country are not foreign. They are local.

Papa Shirandula, Mother in Law, Tahidi High etc top the billing. It just makes commercial sense to have them on..

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On 27 May 2016, at 8:52 PM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

I do agree with the notion Grace. I feel though the proposal to do so is not going to sell. Simply because you can not sell something that the local audience is not keen to watch any way. If the market can not show concrete local viewership in a place like Nairobi (to people who own a credit card - who are mostly on DSTV) then its going to be a tough sale.

On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

+ 1 Waithaka. And this should have been or still should be what we should negotiate with Netflix as opposed to insisting on subjecting them to our rules. Netflix should also carry a certain percentage of our local content.

Rgds G

------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 10:22:29 +0300 Subject: Re: [kictanet] EU PLANS TO LIFT BARRIERS ON INTERNET SHOPPING AND IMPOSE QUOTAS ON NETFLIX From: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke CC: ngigi@at.co.ke; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com

Lots of sense. Can you imagine if Vioja, Vitimbi, Tahamaki All Episodes were‎ on Netflix?

Waithaka Ngigi

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Ahmed

Makes sense for us too..

#JustSaying..

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On 26 May 2016, at 8:09 AM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy < ultimateprogramer@gmail.com> wrote:

Well.. they not only have but also actively encourage and develop local capacity to rival such products. For them I suppose it makes sense.

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 6:15 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

The EU announced plans to free internet shopping and ban geo-fencing. Netflix and Amazon are to adhere to a 20% local content requirement (Seems like these guys are case studying Kenya). :-)

Read on:-

http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/2016/05/eu-plans-free-internet-shopping-...

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I attended the European Film Festival, which just ended today, at Alliance Francoise. Though the festival shows films from different European countries, they had space for one or two Kenyan films. I watched 'Watatu', a film shot by Kenyans here in Kenya. Exploring the problem of radicalisation of youth... Mostly in Swahili. Nicely done plot. Very authentic. We already have lots of great local content to showcase. Regulators ought to visit art spaces more often and we all must continue to assist to get creative solutions. Tarehe 28 Mei 2016 13:09, "DigitalTVAfrica via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> aliandika:

Interesting views on content quotas, commercial case and local content production.

Quota systems do not grow local content; but incentives to production houses and broadcasters will spur growth. Production requires investment, therefore broadcasters/video production houses will invest where there is a business case - whether in the EU or here in Kenya. The Citizen TV success story is a case in point - http://www.cto.int/media/events/pst-ev/2014/DBSF/Wainaina%20Mungai.pdf . It worked for them because they gave Kenyans what the audience asked for - it was not even about the "quality" of local content. It was "local", "relevant" and "general exhibition" or mass market; meaning something your grandmother and your grandson can sit and watch together.

Ali says, *"**The point is there are many people beyond Kenya who may be interested but may not know where to find them."* But all that local content is available on http://www.kenyamoja.com/tv/ live and on the websites of each TV stations. However, broadcasters/producers need to explore the case for distributing and monetizing their archived local content as VoD on Netflix or similar platforms - which can be justified using *diaspora demand* for the Kenyamoja-style free live streaming.

Before analogue switch-off, the local content stations succeeded because they had much better terrestrial coverage - so local content & good distribution delivered the stellar results. However, digital migration took away that distribution/coverage advantage. They now have to find new distribution channels that may demand better production quality. They also have to make a decision on how to comply with regulation as they mix their PayTV and Free-to-Air business models.

Regards, Wainaina

Digital Television policy, regulation and technology in Africa on issues relating to Consumers, Content and Coverage.

On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

That is an interesting way of looking at it (in terms of audience abroad). But then we still need to sell that concept to NetFlix. So some work to be done there :)

On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 12:14 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:

...

Ahmed

As the people on this list who watch:-

1. House of Cards 2. Game of Thrones 3. Person of interest Etc

If they pay for them..

The point is there are many people beyond Kenya who amy be interested but may not know where to find them.

There is huge demand for local content. We just don't have enough of it and lack of platforms too..

*Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* +254 0713 601113

Twitter: @AliHKassim

Skype: abu-jomo

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On 28 May 2016, at 11:26 AM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy < ultimateprogramer@gmail.com> wrote:

Well Ali I think we are differentiating here between an aired for free content and content people will need to pay for. And I can say this for free that the only content we have pirated for that as Kenyans is Nairobi Half Life. But we eagerly pirate Nollywood content. I think that says something already. Nollywood is already available on channels that are paid TV content and people actually watch.

I understand you are talking about Citizen TV aired content? Which has the best coverage countrywide? Lets analyze paid content - DSTV, Zuku, etc. These are demographics NetFlix will need to see. What is the habit of such people?

On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:

...

Ahmed

Actually you are wrong there. The top viewed programme in the country are not foreign. They are local.

Papa Shirandula, Mother in Law, Tahidi High etc top the billing. It just makes commercial sense to have them on..

*Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* +254 0713 601113

Twitter: @AliHKassim

Skype: abu-jomo

LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim

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Sent from my iPad

On 27 May 2016, at 8:52 PM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

I do agree with the notion Grace. I feel though the proposal to do so is not going to sell. Simply because you can not sell something that the local audience is not keen to watch any way. If the market can not show concrete local viewership in a place like Nairobi (to people who own a credit card - who are mostly on DSTV) then its going to be a tough sale.

On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

+ 1 Waithaka. And this should have been or still should be what we should negotiate with Netflix as opposed to insisting on subjecting them to our rules. Netflix should also carry a certain percentage of our local content.

Rgds G

------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 10:22:29 +0300 Subject: Re: [kictanet] EU PLANS TO LIFT BARRIERS ON INTERNET SHOPPING AND IMPOSE QUOTAS ON NETFLIX From: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke CC: ngigi@at.co.ke; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com

Lots of sense. Can you imagine if Vioja, Vitimbi, Tahamaki All Episodes were‎ on Netflix?

Waithaka Ngigi

Alliance Technologies www.at.co.ke *From: *Ali Hussein via kictanet *Sent: *Thursday, May 26, 2016 9:52 AM *To: *Ngigi Waithaka *Reply To: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Cc: *Ali Hussein; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] EU PLANS TO LIFT BARRIERS ON INTERNET SHOPPING AND IMPOSE QUOTAS ON NETFLIX

Ahmed

Makes sense for us too..

#JustSaying..

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On 26 May 2016, at 8:09 AM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy < ultimateprogramer@gmail.com> wrote:

Well.. they not only have but also actively encourage and develop local capacity to rival such products. For them I suppose it makes sense.

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 6:15 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

The EU announced plans to free internet shopping and ban geo-fencing. Netflix and Amazon are to adhere to a 20% local content requirement (Seems like these guys are case studying Kenya). :-)

Read on:-

http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/2016/05/eu-plans-free-internet-shopping-...

Ali Hussein Tel: +254 713 601113

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KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

-- *Ahmed Maawy* Executive Director - SwahiliBox / M-Power (CBO) Ambassador - Open Knowledge Director - Startup Grind Mombasa Software Developer - AJ+ / EveryLayer (KE) +254 714 960 627 Skype: ultimateprogramer

swahilibox.co.ke www.okfn.org <http://okfn.org/> startupgrind.com ajplus.net www.everylayer.com

-- *Ahmed Maawy* Executive Director - SwahiliBox / M-Power (CBO) Ambassador - Open Knowledge Director - Startup Grind Mombasa Software Developer - AJ+ / EveryLayer (KE) +254 714 960 627 Skype: ultimateprogramer

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KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.