Security and Data Protection
Dear listers, Please receive my regards for the new year. I am interested in you views regarding the attached letter from the government vis a vis privacy and Data protection. Warm regards, Mutemi wa Kiama Co-Chair, Africans Rising Movement Coordinating Collective Team Captain, This Is Africa: https://thisisafrica.me Thoughts become things... choose the good ones! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Public Intellectual, Social Justice & Social Accountability Entrepreneur, Strategic Planning & Organizational Development Facilitator, Strategic Communications, Movement Building Coach, Human Rights Defender, #DevolutionIsRevolution Champion. Mzalendo Halisi Foundation (MHF) https://mzalendohalisi.org https://www.linkedin.com/in/edwin-mutemi-wa-kiama-1aa51615/ https://twitter.com/WanjikuRevolt Ordinary, fearless Kenyans https://twitter.com/MutemiWaKiama http://www.scribd.com/wmkenya "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." ~Margaret Mead
Greetings, I hope you are well. I am of the opinion that the letter is within the confines of the law as per section 48 of the Private Security Regulation Act 2016. The directive to retain identification documents is for a lawful purpose . On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 9:45 PM Mutemi wa Kiama via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear listers,
Please receive my regards for the new year.
I am interested in you views regarding the attached letter from the government vis a vis privacy and Data protection.
Warm regards,
Mutemi wa Kiama
Co-Chair, Africans Rising Movement Coordinating Collective
Team Captain, This Is Africa: https://thisisafrica.me
Thoughts become things... choose the good ones!
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Retaining identity documents might not directly solve the problem though. So that’s a data protection issue. Most ID pictures were taken when subjects were teenagers. Holding that ID for a week will not help with identification if I submitted a wring one. Perhaps the businesses should ensure that the name of the person who books the property online should match with the ID. Best regards. Liz. PGP ID: 0x1F3488BF On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 at 08:07, Karuga Mugo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Greetings, I hope you are well.
I am of the opinion that the letter is within the confines of the law as per section 48 of the Private Security Regulation Act 2016. The directive to retain identification documents is for a lawful purpose .
On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 9:45 PM Mutemi wa Kiama via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear listers,
Please receive my regards for the new year.
I am interested in you views regarding the attached letter from the government vis a vis privacy and Data protection.
Warm regards,
Mutemi wa Kiama
Co-Chair, Africans Rising Movement Coordinating Collective
Team Captain, This Is Africa: https://thisisafrica.me
Thoughts become things... choose the good ones!
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Public Intellectual, Social Justice & Social Accountability Entrepreneur, Strategic Planning & Organizational Development Facilitator, Strategic Communications, Movement Building Coach, Human Rights Defender,
#DevolutionIsRevolution Champion.
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The said section 48 was made before enactment of the Data Protection Act. Is it not time that it was revised to align with data protection? For example, most security guards are not aware of data protection and will sometimes expose personal information when writing in the books. Sometimes there are better and more practical ways to keep security information without exposing people's telephone and ID numbers. Regards, On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 at 08:16, Liz Orembo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Retaining identity documents might not directly solve the problem though. So that’s a data protection issue. Most ID pictures were taken when subjects were teenagers. Holding that ID for a week will not help with identification if I submitted a wring one.
Perhaps the businesses should ensure that the name of the person who books the property online should match with the ID.
Best regards. Liz.
PGP ID: 0x1F3488BF
On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 at 08:07, Karuga Mugo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Greetings, I hope you are well.
I am of the opinion that the letter is within the confines of the law as per section 48 of the Private Security Regulation Act 2016. The directive to retain identification documents is for a lawful purpose .
On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 9:45 PM Mutemi wa Kiama via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear listers,
Please receive my regards for the new year.
I am interested in you views regarding the attached letter from the government vis a vis privacy and Data protection.
Warm regards,
Mutemi wa Kiama
Co-Chair, Africans Rising Movement Coordinating Collective
Team Captain, This Is Africa: https://thisisafrica.me
Thoughts become things... choose the good ones!
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Public Intellectual, Social Justice & Social Accountability Entrepreneur, Strategic Planning & Organizational Development Facilitator, Strategic Communications, Movement Building Coach, Human Rights Defender,
#DevolutionIsRevolution Champion.
Mzalendo Halisi Foundation (MHF) https://mzalendohalisi.org
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What defect is this policy trying to remedy? In the cases that have been highlighted so far the (suspected) perpetrators have been identified quickly. In many cases the perpetrators paid through platforms that would link them to the bookings, eg/ mobile money. It seems that the possibility of being identified is not a deterrent to the hideous crimes. I am not convinced that this new policy will make anyone safer. On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 at 21:45, Mutemi wa Kiama via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear listers,
Please receive my regards for the new year.
I am interested in you views regarding the attached letter from the government vis a vis privacy and Data protection.
Warm regards,
Mutemi wa Kiama
Co-Chair, Africans Rising Movement Coordinating Collective
Team Captain, This Is Africa: https://thisisafrica.me
Thoughts become things... choose the good ones!
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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#DevolutionIsRevolution Champion.
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Good day, Under the Data Protection Act, the letter and the Private Security Regulation Act could fall under section 30(1)(b)(ii). The section provides for data processing necessary 'for compliance with any legal obligation to which the controller is subject' . Operationalising section 48 of the Private Security Regulation Act is compliance with a legal obligation. However, in my view the issue is whether these private security companies have put in place privacy programmes, measures to comply with data protection principles and data subject rights. That is, what data policies do they have? What information is in their privacy notices? Have they trained these guards in information security, rights of data subjects etc? How do they store the data? Without proof of concrete information privacy compliance processes, operationalising section 48 will violate Article 31 on the right to privacy. Best, Laibuta Best On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 at 21:53, Mutemi wa Kiama via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear listers,
Please receive my regards for the new year.
I am interested in you views regarding the attached letter from the government vis a vis privacy and Data protection.
Warm regards,
Mutemi wa Kiama
Co-Chair, Africans Rising Movement Coordinating Collective
Team Captain, This Is Africa: https://thisisafrica.me
Thoughts become things... choose the good ones!
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Public Intellectual, Social Justice & Social Accountability Entrepreneur, Strategic Planning & Organizational Development Facilitator, Strategic Communications, Movement Building Coach, Human Rights Defender,
#DevolutionIsRevolution Champion.
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Good Morning Blanket and blind operalization of Section 48 will definitely be in incongruous with the Data Protection Act considering most private security firms are not compliant with the latter. Regards *Hadassah Rimunya* *Advocate * *P.O BOX 48049 - 00100* *Nairobi.* Email: hadirimunya@gmail.com _____________________________________________________________________ Litigation l Arbitration l Real Estate l Consultancy l Company Registration On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 at 09:40, Mugambi Laibuta via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Good day,
Under the Data Protection Act, the letter and the Private Security Regulation Act could fall under section 30(1)(b)(ii). The section provides for data processing necessary 'for compliance with any legal obligation to which the controller is subject' .
Operationalising section 48 of the Private Security Regulation Act is compliance with a legal obligation. However, in my view the issue is whether these private security companies have put in place privacy programmes, measures to comply with data protection principles and data subject rights. That is, what data policies do they have? What information is in their privacy notices? Have they trained these guards in information security, rights of data subjects etc? How do they store the data?
Without proof of concrete information privacy compliance processes, operationalising section 48 will violate Article 31 on the right to privacy.
Best,
Laibuta
Best
On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 at 21:53, Mutemi wa Kiama via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear listers,
Please receive my regards for the new year.
I am interested in you views regarding the attached letter from the government vis a vis privacy and Data protection.
Warm regards,
Mutemi wa Kiama
Co-Chair, Africans Rising Movement Coordinating Collective
Team Captain, This Is Africa: https://thisisafrica.me
Thoughts become things... choose the good ones!
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Public Intellectual, Social Justice & Social Accountability Entrepreneur, Strategic Planning & Organizational Development Facilitator, Strategic Communications, Movement Building Coach, Human Rights Defender,
#DevolutionIsRevolution Champion.
Mzalendo Halisi Foundation (MHF) https://mzalendohalisi.org
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Daudi Were -
Grace Mutung'u -
Hadi Rimunya -
Karuga Mugo -
Liz Orembo -
Mugambi Laibuta -
Mutemi wa Kiama