Three candidates shortlisted in race for top CCK post
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com>wrote:
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I don't get it. One engineer pitted against two lawyers. <quote> “CCK is a highly technical institution and it requires somebody who has a good understanding of the sector,” said Dr Ndemo. </quote> Well... as they say, wonders shall never cease. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
Hi, Regulation is about laws so lawyers are the best placed to deal with the issues without getting bogged down in the tech issues. Might you be interested in a wager on who will be selected and how soon after the decision will be challenged in court? Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Monday, 20 August 2012, 23:05 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Three candidates shortlisted in race for top CCK post On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> wrote: http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Three+candidates+shortlist...
I don't get it. One engineer pitted against two lawyers. <quote> “CCK is a highly technical institution and it requires somebody who has a good understanding of the sector,” said Dr Ndemo. </quote> Well... as they say, wonders shall never cease. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40yahoo.co.... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Hi, Tech people also have the capacity to understand regulatory issues. Most of the organizations that CCK will have to regulate are not run by lawyers but people with technical backgrounds (in the case of telkos and ISPs) and journalists (in the case of media houses) Regards, Alex Watila ICT Manager Kenya School of Law Langata-South Road, Karen P.O. Box 30369 00100 Nairobi skype: awatila Telkom Wireless +254(020) 2699581,2699582, 2699583, 2699584, 2699585, 2699586 Tel +254 20 8890 044/94, 8891 399, 8891 200 Fax +254 20 8891 722 “You can visit KSL on the internet at www.ksl.ac.ke” From: robert yawe Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:18 AM To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Three candidates shortlisted in race for top CCK post Hi, Regulation is about laws so lawyers are the best placed to deal with the issues without getting bogged down in the tech issues. Might you be interested in a wager on who will be selected and how soon after the decision will be challenged in court? Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Monday, 20 August 2012, 23:05 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Three candidates shortlisted in race for top CCK post On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> wrote: http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Three+candidates+shortlist... I don't get it. One engineer pitted against two lawyers. <quote> “CCK is a highly technical institution and it requires somebody who has a good understanding of the sector,” said Dr Ndemo. </quote> Well... as they say, wonders shall never cease. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40yahoo.co.... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/awatila%40yahoo.co.uk The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
I think it is a done deal. Wangusi will get it. He has already been acting and is better at navigating the stormy politics of telcos and media houses than Njoroge was. I don't know much about Omo but it is telling that he was not picked to be acting when Njoroge was shown the door. Njoroge himself was not bad, only he would not fraternize with telco bosses that Waweru was chummy with (and probably did business with). Kiptiness is a straight forward guy who would probably make the best DG among them but he has been away for sometime when he worked for Telkom Kenya. Wangusi it is. JG On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 7:01 AM, <awatila@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi, Tech people also have the capacity to understand regulatory issues.
Most of the organizations that CCK will have to regulate are not run by lawyers but people with technical backgrounds (in the case of telkos and ISPs) and journalists (in the case of media houses)
Regards,
Alex Watila ICT Manager Kenya School of Law Langata-South Road, Karen P.O. Box 30369 00100 Nairobi skype: awatila Telkom Wireless +254(020) 2699581,2699582, 2699583, 2699584, 2699585, 2699586 Tel +254 20 8890 044/94, 8891 399, 8891 200 Fax +254 20 8891 722 “You can visit KSL on the internet at www.ksl.ac.ke”
From: robert yawe Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:18 AM To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Three candidates shortlisted in race for top CCK post
Hi,
Regulation is about laws so lawyers are the best placed to deal with the issues without getting bogged down in the tech issues.
Might you be interested in a wager on who will be selected and how soon after the decision will be challenged in court?
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Monday, 20 August 2012, 23:05 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Three candidates shortlisted in race for top CCK post
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Three+candidates+shortlist...
I don't get it. One engineer pitted against two lawyers.
<quote> “CCK is a highly technical institution and it requires somebody who has a good understanding of the sector,” said Dr Ndemo. </quote>
Well... as they say, wonders shall never cease.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
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Wangusi is a good hands on guy... who has done alot especially on staff motivation for the short time he has been in the acting capacity. Wangusi it is! On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:33 AM, James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
I think it is a done deal. Wangusi will get it.
He has already been acting and is better at navigating the stormy politics of telcos and media houses than Njoroge was.
I don't know much about Omo but it is telling that he was not picked to be acting when Njoroge was shown the door.
Njoroge himself was not bad, only he would not fraternize with telco bosses that Waweru was chummy with (and probably did business with).
Kiptiness is a straight forward guy who would probably make the best DG among them but he has been away for sometime when he worked for Telkom Kenya.
Wangusi it is.
JG
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 7:01 AM, <awatila@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi, Tech people also have the capacity to understand regulatory issues.
Most of the organizations that CCK will have to regulate are not run by lawyers but people with technical backgrounds (in the case of telkos and ISPs) and journalists (in the case of media houses)
Regards,
Alex Watila ICT Manager Kenya School of Law Langata-South Road, Karen P.O. Box 30369 00100 Nairobi skype: awatila Telkom Wireless +254(020) 2699581,2699582, 2699583, 2699584, 2699585, 2699586 Tel +254 20 8890 044/94, 8891 399, 8891 200 Fax +254 20 8891 722 “You can visit KSL on the internet at www.ksl.ac.ke”
From: robert yawe Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:18 AM To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Three candidates shortlisted in race for top CCK post
Hi,
Regulation is about laws so lawyers are the best placed to deal with the issues without getting bogged down in the tech issues.
Might you be interested in a wager on who will be selected and how soon after the decision will be challenged in court?
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Monday, 20 August 2012, 23:05 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Three candidates shortlisted in race for top CCK post
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Three+candidates+shortlist...
I don't get it. One engineer pitted against two lawyers.
<quote> “CCK is a highly technical institution and it requires somebody who has a good understanding of the sector,” said Dr Ndemo. </quote>
Well... as they say, wonders shall never cease.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
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Hahaa, Robert. I do think the lawyers are best used as legal officers within the organization. However, CCK is better headed by a technical fellow. Technical people will get the lawyers to address the legalese. Having a lawyer to head, say, Safaricom, wouldn't wash, for sure. Having a lawyer to head an organization that will oversee the likes of Safaricom, etc will only serve to make technical issues take a political direction. Lawyers argue too much:-) About challenging that decision in court, that is a nice one! Kenyans have now started getting accustomed to a constitution that allows them to challenge any decision. Since the Presidency changed from being "above the law", to being under it, the sky is the limit. On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:18 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi,
Regulation is about laws so lawyers are the best placed to deal with the issues without getting bogged down in the tech issues.
Might you be interested in a wager on who will be selected and how soon after the decision will be challenged in court?
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ------------------------------ *From:* Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> *To:* robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Monday, 20 August 2012, 23:05 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Three candidates shortlisted in race for top CCK post
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com>wrote:
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Three+candidates+shortlist...
I don't get it. One engineer pitted against two lawyers.
<quote> “CCK is a highly technical institution and it requires somebody who has a good understanding of the sector,” said Dr Ndemo. </quote>
Well... as they say, wonders shall never cease.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
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Hi Washington, CCK is a regulator so how exactly does a techie add value to such a process? It is the technical people who are employed to churn through standards and technologies the CG is supposed to be an interface. A techie will not last, we are intolerant and like people to respond like code which means we are not people people which is clearly seen from how issues are handled on this list. Like Muchiri I feel Kiptinness is the more ideal candidate and I like the fact that he listens. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, 21 August 2012, 10:09 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Three candidates shortlisted in race for top CCK post Hahaa, Robert. I do think the lawyers are best used as legal officers within the organization. However, CCK is better headed by a technical fellow. Technical people will get the lawyers to address the legalese. Having a lawyer to head, say, Safaricom, wouldn't wash, for sure. Having a lawyer to head an organization that will oversee the likes of Safaricom, etc will only serve to make technical issues take a political direction. Lawyers argue too much:-) About challenging that decision in court, that is a nice one! Kenyans have now started getting accustomed to a constitution that allows them to challenge any decision. Since the Presidency changed from being "above the law", to being under it, the sky is the limit. On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:18 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Hi,
Regulation is about laws so lawyers are the best placed to deal with the issues without getting bogged down in the tech issues.
Might you be interested in a wager on who will be selected and how soon after the decision will be challenged in court?
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Monday, 20 August 2012, 23:05 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Three candidates shortlisted in race for top CCK post
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Three+candidates+shortlist...
I don't get it. One engineer pitted against two lawyers.
<quote> “CCK is a highly technical institution and it requires somebody who has a good understanding of the sector,” said Dr Ndemo. </quote>
Well... as they say, wonders shall never cease.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
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poor lawyers! so misunderstood! But at the end of the day, it is more about personality than profession. there are (layer 8) techies who know how to interface with non techies just as there are lawyers who speak layman. May the best man take the lead. 2012/8/21 robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
Hi Washington,
CCK is a regulator so how exactly does a techie add value to such a process? It is the technical people who are employed to churn through standards and technologies the CG is supposed to be an interface.
A techie will not last, we are intolerant and like people to respond like code which means we are not people people which is clearly seen from how issues are handled on this list.
Like Muchiri I feel Kiptinness is the more ideal candidate and I like the fact that he listens.
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ------------------------------ *From:* Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> *To:* robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Tuesday, 21 August 2012, 10:09
*Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Three candidates shortlisted in race for top CCK post
Hahaa, Robert. I do think the lawyers are best used as legal officers within the organization. However, CCK is better headed by a technical fellow. Technical people will get the lawyers to address the legalese. Having a lawyer to head, say, Safaricom, wouldn't wash, for sure. Having a lawyer to head an organization that will oversee the likes of Safaricom, etc will only serve to make technical issues take a political direction. Lawyers argue too much:-)
About challenging that decision in court, that is a nice one! Kenyans have now started getting accustomed to a constitution that allows them to challenge any decision. Since the Presidency changed from being "above the law", to being under it, the sky is the limit.
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:18 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
Hi,
Regulation is about laws so lawyers are the best placed to deal with the issues without getting bogged down in the tech issues.
Might you be interested in a wager on who will be selected and how soon after the decision will be challenged in court?
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ------------------------------ *From:* Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> *To:* robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Monday, 20 August 2012, 23:05 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Three candidates shortlisted in race for top CCK post
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com>wrote:
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Three+candidates+shortlist...
I don't get it. One engineer pitted against two lawyers.
<quote> “CCK is a highly technical institution and it requires somebody who has a good understanding of the sector,” said Dr Ndemo. </quote>
Well... as they say, wonders shall never cease.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
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Robert, It may have been prudent to call for an AGM before such drastic decisions are made. The constitution accords evrybody a right to fair process. We have the opportunity to show what really multistakeholderism means. This where we must be torlerant of every individual no matter what their idea may be. The report has to be approved by the AGM before the Board implements. This is basic governance even in rigid organizations. Ndemo.
Daktari, I believe you responded to the wrong threat. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: bitange@jambo.co.ke; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, 21 August 2012, 14:47 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Three candidates shortlisted in race for top CCK post Robert, It may have been prudent to call for an AGM before such drastic decisions are made. The constitution accords evrybody a right to fair process. We have the opportunity to show what really multistakeholderism means. This where we must be torlerant of every individual no matter what their idea may be. The report has to be approved by the AGM before the Board implements. This is basic governance even in rigid organizations. Ndemo.
Very true. I meant to respond to Kenic. Ndemo.
Daktari,
I believe you responded to the wrong threat.
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: bitange@jambo.co.ke; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, 21 August 2012, 14:47 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Three candidates shortlisted in race for top CCK post
Robert, It may have been prudent to call for an AGM before such drastic decisions are made. The constitution accords evrybody a right to fair process. We have the opportunity to show what really multistakeholderism means. This where we must be torlerant of every individual no matter what their idea may be. The report has to be approved by the AGM before the Board implements. This is basic governance even in rigid organizations.
Ndemo.
Interesting!! This 'campaign' here reminds me of how 'we want to see our own (professionally) making it to the DG post. As a 'mwananchi wa kawaida' my views would be more of a pedestrian, literary. Just as Grace Bomu has said, what matters most is not who, but professionalism - someone who will crack the whip against the errant radio stations, put service providers to task and above all, follow the law to the letter. Sometimes when you look at retired (and very tired) political appointee declaring an interest in governorship, because the fellow thinks of nothing save the title, forgetting that all positions - women representative, county leader, Senator, Governor, MP and even Presidency - are all about service delivery. About the common man interrogating the law, I think there is nothing like that, because a few civil society organizations have assumed the role of the 'unofficial opposition', in the absence of one in the Parliament. The local mwanachi has not yet understood the constitutional implementation process, because politicians have hijacked the whole process - and their silence, means they are likely to disappear into the oblivion. My mwananchi thoughts. :-) On 21/08/2012, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Very true. I meant to respond to Kenic.
Ndemo.
Daktari,
I believe you responded to the wrong threat.
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: bitange@jambo.co.ke; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, 21 August 2012, 14:47 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Three candidates shortlisted in race for top CCK post
Robert, It may have been prudent to call for an AGM before such drastic decisions are made. The constitution accords evrybody a right to fair process. We have the opportunity to show what really multistakeholderism means. This where we must be torlerant of every individual no matter what their idea may be. The report has to be approved by the AGM before the Board implements. This is basic governance even in rigid organizations.
Ndemo.
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And there it goes. Wangusi is the new DG of CCK! Congratulations to him on the appointment. We hope he can make CCK a bull-terrier to bite the SPs - when they don't deliver as promised:-) On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
Interesting!!
This 'campaign' here reminds me of how 'we want to see our own (professionally) making it to the DG post. As a 'mwananchi wa kawaida' my views would be more of a pedestrian, literary. Just as Grace Bomu has said, what matters most is not who, but professionalism - someone who will crack the whip against the errant radio stations, put service providers to task and above all, follow the law to the letter.
Sometimes when you look at retired (and very tired) political appointee declaring an interest in governorship, because the fellow thinks of nothing save the title, forgetting that all positions - women representative, county leader, Senator, Governor, MP and even Presidency - are all about service delivery.
About the common man interrogating the law, I think there is nothing like that, because a few civil society organizations have assumed the role of the 'unofficial opposition', in the absence of one in the Parliament. The local mwanachi has not yet understood the constitutional implementation process, because politicians have hijacked the whole process - and their silence, means they are likely to disappear into the oblivion.
My mwananchi thoughts.
:-)
On 21/08/2012, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Very true. I meant to respond to Kenic.
Ndemo.
Daktari,
I believe you responded to the wrong threat.
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: bitange@jambo.co.ke; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, 21 August 2012, 14:47 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Three candidates shortlisted in race for top CCK post
Robert, It may have been prudent to call for an AGM before such drastic decisions are made. The constitution accords evrybody a right to fair process. We have the opportunity to show what really multistakeholderism means. This where we must be torlerant of every individual no matter what their idea may be. The report has to be approved by the AGM before the Board implements. This is basic governance even in rigid organizations.
Ndemo.
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Poghisio picks new CCK, Posta headshttp://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Poghisio+picks+new+CCK++Po... From: odhiambo@gmail.com Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:45:43 +0300 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Three candidates shortlisted in race for top CCK post CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com And there it goes. Wangusi is the new DG of CCK! Congratulations to him on the appointment. We hope he can make CCK a bull-terrier to bite the SPs - when they don't deliver as promised:-) On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote: Interesting!! This 'campaign' here reminds me of how 'we want to see our own (professionally) making it to the DG post. As a 'mwananchi wa kawaida' my views would be more of a pedestrian, literary. Just as Grace Bomu has said, what matters most is not who, but professionalism - someone who will crack the whip against the errant radio stations, put service providers to task and above all, follow the law to the letter. Sometimes when you look at retired (and very tired) political appointee declaring an interest in governorship, because the fellow thinks of nothing save the title, forgetting that all positions - women representative, county leader, Senator, Governor, MP and even Presidency - are all about service delivery. About the common man interrogating the law, I think there is nothing like that, because a few civil society organizations have assumed the role of the 'unofficial opposition', in the absence of one in the Parliament. The local mwanachi has not yet understood the constitutional implementation process, because politicians have hijacked the whole process - and their silence, means they are likely to disappear into the oblivion. My mwananchi thoughts. :-) On 21/08/2012, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Very true. I meant to respond to Kenic.
Ndemo.
Daktari,
I believe you responded to the wrong threat.
Regards
Robert Yawe
KAY System Technologies Ltd
Phoenix House, 6th Floor
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________
From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke>
To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: bitange@jambo.co.ke; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Sent: Tuesday, 21 August 2012, 14:47
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Robert,
It may have been prudent to call for an AGM before such drastic decisions
are made. The constitution accords evrybody a right to fair process. We
have the opportunity to show what really multistakeholderism means. This
where we must be torlerant of every individual no matter what their idea
may be. The report has to be approved by the AGM before the Board
implements. This is basic governance even in rigid organizations.
Ndemo.
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Congratulations to the new DG. He is very able and up to the task, as he has demonstrated while acting. I wish him all the best! Gilda Odera On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:00:31 +0000, Grace Githaiga wrote:
POGHISIO PICKS NEW CCK, POSTA HEADS
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Poghisio+picks+new+CCK++Po... [14]
------------------------- From: odhiambo@gmail.com Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:45:43 +0300 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Three candidates shortlisted in race for top CCK post CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com
And there it goes. Wangusi is the new DG of CCK!
Congratulations to him on the appointment. We hope he can make CCK a bull-terrier to bite the SPs - when they don't deliver as pro mised:-)
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau wrote:
Interesting!!
This 'campaign' here reminds me of how 'we want to see our own (professionally) making it to the DG post. As a 'mwananchi wa kawaida' my views would be more of a pedestrian, literary. Just as Grace Bomu has said, what matters most is not who, but professionalism - someone who will crack the whip against the errant radio stations, put service providers to task and above all, follow the law to the letter.
Sometimes when you look at retired (and very tired) political appointee declaring an interest in governorship, because the fellow thinks of nothing save the title, forgetting that all positions - women representative, county leader, Senator, Governor, MP and even Presidency - are all about service delivery.
About the common man interrogating the law, I think there is nothing like that, because a few civil society organizations have assumed the role of the 'unofficial opposition', in the absence of one in the Parliament. The local mwanachi has not yet understood the constitutional implementation process, because politicians have hijacked the whole process - and their silence, means they are likely to disappear into the oblivion.
My mwananchi thoughts.
:-)
Very true. I meant to respond to Kenic.
Ndemo.
Daktari,
I believe you responded to the wrong threat.
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) -
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Odhiambo Washington -
robert yawe -
Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau