Hi David, Many thanks. Considering the fact that most links are 'shared' i bet the pressure is too much as the number of online users keeps soaring. Interestingly most of the comments are coming from locations beyond Nairobi. I am on Safaricom Fibre as well. Been on a couple of Webinars and Conference calls with varying levels of success. Regards On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 1:38 PM David Indeje via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Barrack, So far, I have not had any issues with Safaricom Home Fibre. They are also responsive in case of any inquiry. Maybe it is working where the infrastructure is ok. I spoke to some of the staff helping to connect, they said the requests being made are high within the Kinoo, Muthiga, Regen area. (Some of the initial areas that the fibre network was laid.)

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On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 at 13:08, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

Listers,

It seems the quality of our Infrastructure is taking a hit as more people are working from home. Talking to friends from different corners of the countries across different Networks, there seems to be a challenge. I hope the Communications Authority is paying attention. The Internet and Infrastructure service providers should not just focus on free Internet and double speeds, quality of the connection is critical.

Best

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This is very true Barrack, I have been teaching a live online class on a Huawei Certification in the past week using Zoom and some of my students, who are on different parts of the country, have really had issues keeping up because of poor internet connections and regular disconnections. Thank God Zoom has a feature to record the classes but for sure this is something that we need to look into. PS: All my students are using Safaricom as Huawei Kenya offered them with credit cards to buy internet bundles in order to be able to learn online. The training I'm doing is Huawei Certified ICT Associate (Routing & Switching) On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 11:14 AM Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Barrack

You got that right. Both Safaricom and Zuku have been intermittent over the past few days. Let's not even start with Kenya Power...

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On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 1:07 PM Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

Listers,

It seems the quality of our Infrastructure is taking a hit as more people are working from home. Talking to friends from different corners of the countries across different Networks, there seems to be a challenge. I hope the Communications Authority is paying attention. The Internet and Infrastructure service providers should not just focus on free Internet and double speeds, quality of the connection is critical.

Best

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Dear Listers, I trust you are all well and keeping safe. The senate is resuming its sessions next week on Tuesday and I am not certain what if any, the Parliamentary Service Commission has put in place for our physical attendance. We will of course attend and do what we have to do but..... As ICT Comitee leadership, I am grappling with a few questions which I will throw at you for brainstorm and perhaps solutions. I have been asking myself aloud if it is/not possible to have legislative sessions that meet remotely? What secure commercial software and teleconferencing tools can we use for our legislative and oversight work.? If we worked on and made the necessary amendments to our standing orders to allow for a remote Senate, would anyone of your companies be willing to help run a pilot of this for us? What goes into such a plot? costs and other? Your ideas, are most welcome. Kind regards, Senator Abshiro. On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 14:22 Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Interesting feedback teacher Karis and Ali,

I also got some feedback from local ISP's that are trying to ensure they provide quality services. While at that @ Teacher Karis, you raised the issue of training, could this issue be attributed to network misconfiguration or simply inadequate bandwidth?, i hope our friends from Safaricom will weigh in as well to share the challenges they are facing in the spirit of right of reply.

Regards

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 11:28 AM Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

This is very true Barrack, I have been teaching a live online class on a Huawei Certification in the past week using Zoom and some of my students, who are on different parts of the country, have really had issues keeping up because of poor internet connections and regular disconnections. Thank God Zoom has a feature to record the classes but for sure this is something that we need to look into.

PS: All my students are using Safaricom as Huawei Kenya offered them with credit cards to buy internet bundles in order to be able to learn online. The training I'm doing is Huawei Certified ICT Associate (Routing & Switching)

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 11:14 AM Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

Barrack

You got that right. Both Safaricom and Zuku have been intermittent over the past few days. Let's not even start with Kenya Power...

Regards

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On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 1:07 PM Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

Listers,

It seems the quality of our Infrastructure is taking a hit as more people are working from home. Talking to friends from different corners of the countries across different Networks, there seems to be a challenge. I hope the Communications Authority is paying attention. The Internet and Infrastructure service providers should not just focus on free Internet and double speeds, quality of the connection is critical.

Best

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If short of budget and cant afford expensive vendor solutions. Please consider open source tools for video conferencing like; - JITSI video conferencing tools. - OBS Project live video and voice streaming tool. Needs a streaming server and you are good to go. - Apps like Signal or Telegram for individual voice and video could come in handy. 1 and 2 will need your ICT team to setup and once its done, decent bandwidth connectivity should be enough to remotely run meetings. Embrace the power of free open source software. Noah On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 20:09 Walubengo J via kictanet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

@Senator,

Am sure the vendors on this list may already have hit you with so many emails ;-)

But what I can say is that there are many remote-working, collaborative solutions and some of the common ones include Zoom, WebEx, Teams, Skype4Business, etc.

The list is endless.

HOWEVER, you probably need to ensure that whichever solution you select can be integrated into the overall VPN (virtual private network) framework for Senate or Parliament as a whole.

So that brings up the discussion of which VPN solution to get (IF parliament doesn't already have one at the moment).

It may also be useful to cross-check with parliament ICT division for such details.

Otherwise its great to see your ICT committee is proactive and thinking ahead in terms of how to stay active and productive - despite the current circumstances.

walu.

On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 07:24:38 PM GMT+3, Abshiro Halake via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Dear Listers,

I trust you are all well and keeping safe. The senate is resuming its sessions next week on Tuesday and I am not certain what if any, the Parliamentary Service Commission has put in place for our physical attendance. We will of course attend and do what we have to do but.....

As ICT Comitee leadership, I am grappling with a few questions which I will throw at you for brainstorm and perhaps solutions.

I have been asking myself aloud if it is/not possible to have legislative sessions that meet remotely?

What secure commercial software and teleconferencing tools can we use for our legislative and oversight work.?

If we worked on and made the necessary amendments to our standing orders to allow for a remote Senate, would anyone of your companies be willing to help run a pilot of this for us? What goes into such a plot? costs and other?

Your ideas, are most welcome.

Kind regards,

Senator Abshiro.

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 14:22 Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Interesting feedback teacher Karis and Ali,

I also got some feedback from local ISP's that are trying to ensure they provide quality services. While at that @ Teacher Karis, you raised the issue of training, could this issue be attributed to network misconfiguration or simply inadequate bandwidth?, i hope our friends from Safaricom will weigh in as well to share the challenges they are facing in the spirit of right of reply.

Regards

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 11:28 AM Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

This is very true Barrack, I have been teaching a live online class on a Huawei Certification in the past week using Zoom and some of my students, who are on different parts of the country, have really had issues keeping up because of poor internet connections and regular disconnections. Thank God Zoom has a feature to record the classes but for sure this is something that we need to look into.

PS: All my students are using Safaricom as Huawei Kenya offered them with credit cards to buy internet bundles in order to be able to learn online. The training I'm doing is Huawei Certified ICT Associate (Routing & Switching)

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 11:14 AM Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Barrack

You got that right. Both Safaricom and Zuku have been intermittent over the past few days. Let's not even start with Kenya Power...

Regards

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On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 1:07 PM Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Listers,

It seems the quality of our Infrastructure is taking a hit as more people are working from home. Talking to friends from different corners of the countries across different Networks, there seems to be a challenge. I hope the Communications Authority is paying attention. The Internet and Infrastructure service providers should not just focus on free Internet and double speeds, quality of the connection is critical.

Best

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Hi Mheshimiwa Abshiro, Other than the Cyber glitches pointed out by GG yesterday which might require further investigation, i think Zoom has proven to be a secure platform. In the recent Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers Virtual meeting, more than 1500 participants from all corners of the world attended over 66 Virtual sessions without a glitch. There were two public fora with more than 200 remote participants. Zoom appears to be tolerant to poor quality of survive which i hope your team will also look into. About a year or two ago, the use of ADOBE Connect which is another good platform was abruptly stopped in ICANN because of a security flaw which has since been fixed. However to answe your question, ZOOM might be a good option for Bunge based on how you conduct your business and issues of public participation. Have a great week. On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 8:42 pm Abshiro Halake via kictanet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Thanks Noah. As you can imagine, government budgets DONOT have much flexibility, ( even with a pandemic I suspect), let's say as it stands, short of budget is the default. Thanks for the pointers I will share all these inputs with the ICT team to explore what is possible especially after Tuesday's sitting.

Cheers.

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 20:33 Noah via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

If short of budget and cant afford expensive vendor solutions.

Please consider open source tools for video conferencing like;

- JITSI video conferencing tools.

- OBS Project live video and voice streaming tool. Needs a streaming server and you are good to go.

- Apps like Signal or Telegram for individual voice and video could come in handy.

1 and 2 will need your ICT team to setup and once its done, decent bandwidth connectivity should be enough to remotely run meetings.

Embrace the power of free open source software.

Noah

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 20:09 Walubengo J via kictanet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

@Senator,

Am sure the vendors on this list may already have hit you with so many emails ;-)

But what I can say is that there are many remote-working, collaborative solutions and some of the common ones include Zoom, WebEx, Teams, Skype4Business, etc.

The list is endless.

HOWEVER, you probably need to ensure that whichever solution you select can be integrated into the overall VPN (virtual private network) framework for Senate or Parliament as a whole.

So that brings up the discussion of which VPN solution to get (IF parliament doesn't already have one at the moment).

It may also be useful to cross-check with parliament ICT division for such details.

Otherwise its great to see your ICT committee is proactive and thinking ahead in terms of how to stay active and productive - despite the current circumstances.

walu.

On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 07:24:38 PM GMT+3, Abshiro Halake via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Dear Listers,

I trust you are all well and keeping safe. The senate is resuming its sessions next week on Tuesday and I am not certain what if any, the Parliamentary Service Commission has put in place for our physical attendance. We will of course attend and do what we have to do but.....

As ICT Comitee leadership, I am grappling with a few questions which I will throw at you for brainstorm and perhaps solutions.

I have been asking myself aloud if it is/not possible to have legislative sessions that meet remotely?

What secure commercial software and teleconferencing tools can we use for our legislative and oversight work.?

If we worked on and made the necessary amendments to our standing orders to allow for a remote Senate, would anyone of your companies be willing to help run a pilot of this for us? What goes into such a plot? costs and other?

Your ideas, are most welcome.

Kind regards,

Senator Abshiro.

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 14:22 Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Interesting feedback teacher Karis and Ali,

I also got some feedback from local ISP's that are trying to ensure they provide quality services. While at that @ Teacher Karis, you raised the issue of training, could this issue be attributed to network misconfiguration or simply inadequate bandwidth?, i hope our friends from Safaricom will weigh in as well to share the challenges they are facing in the spirit of right of reply.

Regards

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 11:28 AM Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

This is very true Barrack, I have been teaching a live online class on a Huawei Certification in the past week using Zoom and some of my students, who are on different parts of the country, have really had issues keeping up because of poor internet connections and regular disconnections. Thank God Zoom has a feature to record the classes but for sure this is something that we need to look into.

PS: All my students are using Safaricom as Huawei Kenya offered them with credit cards to buy internet bundles in order to be able to learn online. The training I'm doing is Huawei Certified ICT Associate (Routing & Switching)

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 11:14 AM Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Barrack

You got that right. Both Safaricom and Zuku have been intermittent over the past few days. Let's not even start with Kenya Power...

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On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 1:07 PM Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Listers,

It seems the quality of our Infrastructure is taking a hit as more people are working from home. Talking to friends from different corners of the countries across different Networks, there seems to be a challenge. I hope the Communications Authority is paying attention. The Internet and Infrastructure service providers should not just focus on free Internet and double speeds, quality of the connection is critical.

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The intermittent ip networks and grid-power aside. Am curious to know why in this day and time and day, we are still focusing on vendor specific trainings. During earlier 2000's we focused so much on the Cisco's, then somehow the Junipers and today we are seeing the Huawei syntax. Shouldn't we be focusing in todays Africa on teaching standard protocols even at a fundamental level and cocktail of vendors sythax rather than continually pushing some specific vendors technology which indirectly markets their kit as defacto to those we keep imbibing the skills too. Just my thoughts.... Noah On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 11:28 Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

This is very true Barrack, I have been teaching a live online class on a Huawei Certification in the past week using Zoom and some of my students, who are on different parts of the country, have really had issues keeping up because of poor internet connections and regular disconnections. Thank God Zoom has a feature to record the classes but for sure this is something that we need to look into.

PS: All my students are using Safaricom as Huawei Kenya offered them with credit cards to buy internet bundles in order to be able to learn online. The training I'm doing is Huawei Certified ICT Associate (Routing & Switching)

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 11:14 AM Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

Barrack

You got that right. Both Safaricom and Zuku have been intermittent over the past few days. Let's not even start with Kenya Power...

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On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 1:07 PM Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

Listers,

It seems the quality of our Infrastructure is taking a hit as more people are working from home. Talking to friends from different corners of the countries across different Networks, there seems to be a challenge. I hope the Communications Authority is paying attention. The Internet and Infrastructure service providers should not just focus on free Internet and double speeds, quality of the connection is critical.

Best

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@Walu I agree that a cocktail of standard principles and *mutlivendor* sythax should be the approach that can go on to see us provide better skills transfer. I only caution us from repeating the old and outdated approach of only focusing training on one vendor since this only goes to help promote the vendors products in our markets rather provide true knowledge. Employers should careless about Cisco or Juniper or Huawei but rather seek knowledgeable candidates who understand technology rather than people who have crammed how to implement a specific vendor sythax. Noah On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 19:26 Walubengo J, <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:

@Noah,

Maybe we can do both. Teach the principles as well as offer exposure to one or several of the vendor technologies (whichever that maybe). I always find such an approach much more enriching and complimentary in my classes.

Teaching 'principles' without offering some practical vendor sessions is like teaching Wordprocessing - without using MS-Word/OpenOffice/etc because you are trying too hard to be vendor-agnostic ;-)

In short, I do appreciate the need to teach principles but also appreciate the need to use vendor specific examples/labs to drive the point home.

walu.

On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 07:03:16 PM GMT+3, Noah via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

The intermittent ip networks and grid-power aside.

Am curious to know why in this day and time and day, we are still focusing on vendor specific trainings.

During earlier 2000's we focused so much on the Cisco's, then somehow the Junipers and today we are seeing the Huawei syntax.

Shouldn't we be focusing in todays Africa on teaching standard protocols even at a fundamental level and cocktail of vendors sythax rather than continually pushing some specific vendors technology which indirectly markets their kit as defacto to those we keep imbibing the skills too.

Just my thoughts....

Noah

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 11:28 Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

This is very true Barrack, I have been teaching a live online class on a Huawei Certification in the past week using Zoom and some of my students, who are on different parts of the country, have really had issues keeping up because of poor internet connections and regular disconnections. Thank God Zoom has a feature to record the classes but for sure this is something that we need to look into.

PS: All my students are using Safaricom as Huawei Kenya offered them with credit cards to buy internet bundles in order to be able to learn online. The training I'm doing is Huawei Certified ICT Associate (Routing & Switching)

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 11:14 AM Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Barrack

You got that right. Both Safaricom and Zuku have been intermittent over the past few days. Let's not even start with Kenya Power...

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On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 1:07 PM Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Listers,

It seems the quality of our Infrastructure is taking a hit as more people are working from home. Talking to friends from different corners of the countries across different Networks, there seems to be a challenge. I hope the Communications Authority is paying attention. The Internet and Infrastructure service providers should not just focus on free Internet and double speeds, quality of the connection is critical.

Best

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I totally agree with you @Walu and I believe we are on the same page but my only caution was for us not to focus so much on vendor sythax (which can be crammed to aid implementation) but rather principles. Back to the main topic, Internet infrastructure across East Africa more than just Kenya needs robust upgrades and improving. Bloody Covid19 is already a game changer and I believe we are all taking lessons from it especially within our space with the ICT infrastructure which politicians used to think was some luxury for a few elites proving to be a necessity in such a time. *ICT could emerge stronger post COVID-19* Some foresee an increase in demand for cloud computing platforms with enterprise applications proving to be inaccessible during lockdowns and #karantini. Increasing usage of remote and collaboration tools. This requires bandwidth like serious bandwidth. Increase in traffic to video streaming sites and social media platforms (Isolation is tough hey, humans are not wild beasts or gods, they must continue socializing) Increased usage of apps from grocery delivery apps to essential goods apps. Most importantly the future of education in the face of another future pendamic [1] with online education becoming defacto especially when schools in future could possibly be closed beyond just one moon. #ICT infrastructure is #critical infrastructure. Cheers, Noah [1] Hellooooo....., there was the Spanish Flu, then the Influenza, then the SARS, then the Swine Flu, the Ebola and you guessed it right COVID-19. On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 19:52 Walubengo J, <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:

True, BUT assume I am Safaricom with maybe 70% of my infrastructure on Huawei and want to hire a Telco Engineer.

I prolly would get a candidate who has the Telco degree (the principles) and the Huawei Certification as the added advantage.

The other way around it would be that I hire then send the candidate back to finishing school for some hands on training.

Universities providing both principles and skills will have an advantage.

On a light note, Imagine teaching Blockchain Technologies using only Satoshi's Paper (the principles) <https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf> and not having access to say IBM Blockchain platforms <https://www.ibm.com/blockchain/what-is-blockchain> to provide students with some Lab exposure. The ones with Lab exposure will often stand out.

Having said that, there are those who 'cram' and pass vendor-certificate exams without really learning the principles. That is also a major risk to employers.

walu.

On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 07:37:26 PM GMT+3, Noah <noah@neo.co.tz> wrote:

@Walu

I agree that a cocktail of standard principles and *mutlivendor* sythax should be the approach that can go on to see us provide better skills transfer.

I only caution us from repeating the old and outdated approach of only focusing training on one vendor since this only goes to help promote the vendors products in our markets rather provide true knowledge.

Employers should careless about Cisco or Juniper or Huawei but rather seek knowledgeable candidates who understand technology rather than people who have crammed how to implement a specific vendor sythax.

Noah

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 19:26 Walubengo J, <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:

@Noah,

Maybe we can do both. Teach the principles as well as offer exposure to one or several of the vendor technologies (whichever that maybe). I always find such an approach much more enriching and complimentary in my classes.

Teaching 'principles' without offering some practical vendor sessions is like teaching Wordprocessing - without using MS-Word/OpenOffice/etc because you are trying too hard to be vendor-agnostic ;-)

In short, I do appreciate the need to teach principles but also appreciate the need to use vendor specific examples/labs to drive the point home.

walu.

On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 07:03:16 PM GMT+3, Noah via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

The intermittent ip networks and grid-power aside.

Am curious to know why in this day and time and day, we are still focusing on vendor specific trainings.

During earlier 2000's we focused so much on the Cisco's, then somehow the Junipers and today we are seeing the Huawei syntax.

Shouldn't we be focusing in todays Africa on teaching standard protocols even at a fundamental level and cocktail of vendors sythax rather than continually pushing some specific vendors technology which indirectly markets their kit as defacto to those we keep imbibing the skills too.

Just my thoughts....

Noah

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 11:28 Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

This is very true Barrack, I have been teaching a live online class on a Huawei Certification in the past week using Zoom and some of my students, who are on different parts of the country, have really had issues keeping up because of poor internet connections and regular disconnections. Thank God Zoom has a feature to record the classes but for sure this is something that we need to look into.

PS: All my students are using Safaricom as Huawei Kenya offered them with credit cards to buy internet bundles in order to be able to learn online. The training I'm doing is Huawei Certified ICT Associate (Routing & Switching)

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 11:14 AM Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Barrack

You got that right. Both Safaricom and Zuku have been intermittent over the past few days. Let's not even start with Kenya Power...

Regards

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On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 1:07 PM Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Listers,

It seems the quality of our Infrastructure is taking a hit as more people are working from home. Talking to friends from different corners of the countries across different Networks, there seems to be a challenge. I hope the Communications Authority is paying attention. The Internet and Infrastructure service providers should not just focus on free Internet and double speeds, quality of the connection is critical.

Best

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Kaka As a proud East African, I agree with you totally and indeed trust is key but most importantly the collective improvement of ICT critical infrastructure through deregulation from the regulatory point of view in some aspects. If laying fiber optics infrastructure becomes an expensive exercise in some members states due to local regulations then the dream of seeing a more vibrant digital economy in East Africa will be impossible in the long run. Each member state seems to have its share burden of regulatory issues and lack of a more robust unified ICT policies. So while it might be easier to develop the infrastructure in Kenya more robustly and easily, the same is not true in other members states. Some of the members states stated manufacturing smart phones recently with assembly plants developed locally and I assume the products will be affordable to Mwanainchi wa kawaida. Political leaders on the list who seat in ICT related committees of the East African parliament should look into this issues. Noah On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 21:31 Barrack Otieno, <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:

Kaka,

You raise very interesting points. I actually think the East African Community should also take up the matter. For Citizens to properly embrace the Internet in the Region, Trust is key. Quality of service, reliability and security of the Networks is a key consideration. We need more investment in connectivity within the EAC Countries and within the region. We also need affordable smart devices. What is the use of connectivity if citizens cannot afford devices that will enable them to make good use of the links. If it means zero rating so be it.

Mheshimiwa Abshiro we need the equivalent of the High Perfomance Computing Act aka the Gore bill to move our country forwad in ICT issues.

Regards

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 8:14 pm Noah via kictanet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

I totally agree with you @Walu and I believe we are on the same page but my only caution was for us not to focus so much on vendor sythax (which can be crammed to aid implementation) but rather principles.

Back to the main topic, Internet infrastructure across East Africa more than just Kenya needs robust upgrades and improving.

Bloody Covid19 is already a game changer and I believe we are all taking lessons from it especially within our space with the ICT infrastructure which politicians used to think was some luxury for a few elites proving to be a necessity in such a time.

*ICT could emerge stronger post COVID-19*

Some foresee an increase in demand for cloud computing platforms with enterprise applications proving to be inaccessible during lockdowns and #karantini.

Increasing usage of remote and collaboration tools. This requires bandwidth like serious bandwidth.

Increase in traffic to video streaming sites and social media platforms (Isolation is tough hey, humans are not wild beasts or gods, they must continue socializing)

Increased usage of apps from grocery delivery apps to essential goods apps.

Most importantly the future of education in the face of another future pendamic [1] with online education becoming defacto especially when schools in future could possibly be closed beyond just one moon.

#ICT infrastructure is #critical infrastructure.

Cheers, Noah

[1] Hellooooo....., there was the Spanish Flu, then the Influenza, then the SARS, then the Swine Flu, the Ebola and you guessed it right COVID-19.

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 19:52 Walubengo J, <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:

...

True, BUT assume I am Safaricom with maybe 70% of my infrastructure on Huawei and want to hire a Telco Engineer.

I prolly would get a candidate who has the Telco degree (the principles) and the Huawei Certification as the added advantage.

The other way around it would be that I hire then send the candidate back to finishing school for some hands on training.

Universities providing both principles and skills will have an advantage.

On a light note, Imagine teaching Blockchain Technologies using only Satoshi's Paper (the principles) <https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf> and not having access to say IBM Blockchain platforms <https://www.ibm.com/blockchain/what-is-blockchain> to provide students with some Lab exposure. The ones with Lab exposure will often stand out.

Having said that, there are those who 'cram' and pass vendor-certificate exams without really learning the principles. That is also a major risk to employers.

walu.

On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 07:37:26 PM GMT+3, Noah <noah@neo.co.tz> wrote:

@Walu

I agree that a cocktail of standard principles and *mutlivendor* sythax should be the approach that can go on to see us provide better skills transfer.

I only caution us from repeating the old and outdated approach of only focusing training on one vendor since this only goes to help promote the vendors products in our markets rather provide true knowledge.

Employers should careless about Cisco or Juniper or Huawei but rather seek knowledgeable candidates who understand technology rather than people who have crammed how to implement a specific vendor sythax.

Noah

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 19:26 Walubengo J, <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:

@Noah,

Maybe we can do both. Teach the principles as well as offer exposure to one or several of the vendor technologies (whichever that maybe). I always find such an approach much more enriching and complimentary in my classes.

Teaching 'principles' without offering some practical vendor sessions is like teaching Wordprocessing - without using MS-Word/OpenOffice/etc because you are trying too hard to be vendor-agnostic ;-)

In short, I do appreciate the need to teach principles but also appreciate the need to use vendor specific examples/labs to drive the point home.

walu.

On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 07:03:16 PM GMT+3, Noah via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

The intermittent ip networks and grid-power aside.

Am curious to know why in this day and time and day, we are still focusing on vendor specific trainings.

During earlier 2000's we focused so much on the Cisco's, then somehow the Junipers and today we are seeing the Huawei syntax.

Shouldn't we be focusing in todays Africa on teaching standard protocols even at a fundamental level and cocktail of vendors sythax rather than continually pushing some specific vendors technology which indirectly markets their kit as defacto to those we keep imbibing the skills too.

Just my thoughts....

Noah

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 11:28 Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

This is very true Barrack, I have been teaching a live online class on a Huawei Certification in the past week using Zoom and some of my students, who are on different parts of the country, have really had issues keeping up because of poor internet connections and regular disconnections. Thank God Zoom has a feature to record the classes but for sure this is something that we need to look into.

PS: All my students are using Safaricom as Huawei Kenya offered them with credit cards to buy internet bundles in order to be able to learn online. The training I'm doing is Huawei Certified ICT Associate (Routing & Switching)

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 11:14 AM Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Barrack

You got that right. Both Safaricom and Zuku have been intermittent over the past few days. Let's not even start with Kenya Power...

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On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 1:07 PM Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Listers,

It seems the quality of our Infrastructure is taking a hit as more people are working from home. Talking to friends from different corners of the countries across different Networks, there seems to be a challenge. I hope the Communications Authority is paying attention. The Internet and Infrastructure service providers should not just focus on free Internet and double speeds, quality of the connection is critical.

Best

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Hi Hon Abshiro and listers, I have done some homework and the challenge with zoom is the end user not the application itself especially when many users are sharing screens and files. Kindly listen to this resource https://internetgovernancehub.blog/2020/03/27/holding-class-on-zoom-beware-o... The Gore bill i made reference to is the High Perfomance Computing Act of 1991 that recognized some critical aspects of Internet Development in Law. Regards On Mon, 30 Mar 2020, 12:47 am Abshiro Halake, <abshiro.halake@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you Kaka, Noah, Barrack,

I will look out for the Gire bill and see what in our context is the equivalent. I may need your help with providing the appropriate content. We don't have much time so time is of the essence.

Barrack thanks for the recommendation/suggestion of use of Zoom. I am a fun but Grace' insights yesterday opened my eyes to the fact that it may not be very secure. That said, what is, these days. Will add it to the list of apps to consider for sure.

Thanks you all once again.

Cheers,

Abshiro.

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 21:31 Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

Kaka,

You raise very interesting points. I actually think the East African Community should also take up the matter. For Citizens to properly embrace the Internet in the Region, Trust is key. Quality of service, reliability and security of the Networks is a key consideration. We need more investment in connectivity within the EAC Countries and within the region. We also need affordable smart devices. What is the use of connectivity if citizens cannot afford devices that will enable them to make good use of the links. If it means zero rating so be it.

Mheshimiwa Abshiro we need the equivalent of the High Perfomance Computing Act aka the Gore bill to move our country forwad in ICT issues.

Regards

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 8:14 pm Noah via kictanet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

I totally agree with you @Walu and I believe we are on the same page but my only caution was for us not to focus so much on vendor sythax (which can be crammed to aid implementation) but rather principles.

Back to the main topic, Internet infrastructure across East Africa more than just Kenya needs robust upgrades and improving.

Bloody Covid19 is already a game changer and I believe we are all taking lessons from it especially within our space with the ICT infrastructure which politicians used to think was some luxury for a few elites proving to be a necessity in such a time.

*ICT could emerge stronger post COVID-19*

Some foresee an increase in demand for cloud computing platforms with enterprise applications proving to be inaccessible during lockdowns and #karantini.

Increasing usage of remote and collaboration tools. This requires bandwidth like serious bandwidth.

Increase in traffic to video streaming sites and social media platforms (Isolation is tough hey, humans are not wild beasts or gods, they must continue socializing)

Increased usage of apps from grocery delivery apps to essential goods apps.

Most importantly the future of education in the face of another future pendamic [1] with online education becoming defacto especially when schools in future could possibly be closed beyond just one moon.

#ICT infrastructure is #critical infrastructure.

Cheers, Noah

[1] Hellooooo....., there was the Spanish Flu, then the Influenza, then the SARS, then the Swine Flu, the Ebola and you guessed it right COVID-19.

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 19:52 Walubengo J, <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:

...

True, BUT assume I am Safaricom with maybe 70% of my infrastructure on Huawei and want to hire a Telco Engineer.

I prolly would get a candidate who has the Telco degree (the principles) and the Huawei Certification as the added advantage.

The other way around it would be that I hire then send the candidate back to finishing school for some hands on training.

Universities providing both principles and skills will have an advantage.

On a light note, Imagine teaching Blockchain Technologies using only Satoshi's Paper (the principles) <https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf> and not having access to say IBM Blockchain platforms <https://www.ibm.com/blockchain/what-is-blockchain> to provide students with some Lab exposure. The ones with Lab exposure will often stand out.

Having said that, there are those who 'cram' and pass vendor-certificate exams without really learning the principles. That is also a major risk to employers.

walu.

On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 07:37:26 PM GMT+3, Noah <noah@neo.co.tz> wrote:

@Walu

I agree that a cocktail of standard principles and *mutlivendor* sythax should be the approach that can go on to see us provide better skills transfer.

I only caution us from repeating the old and outdated approach of only focusing training on one vendor since this only goes to help promote the vendors products in our markets rather provide true knowledge.

Employers should careless about Cisco or Juniper or Huawei but rather seek knowledgeable candidates who understand technology rather than people who have crammed how to implement a specific vendor sythax.

Noah

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 19:26 Walubengo J, <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:

@Noah,

Maybe we can do both. Teach the principles as well as offer exposure to one or several of the vendor technologies (whichever that maybe). I always find such an approach much more enriching and complimentary in my classes.

Teaching 'principles' without offering some practical vendor sessions is like teaching Wordprocessing - without using MS-Word/OpenOffice/etc because you are trying too hard to be vendor-agnostic ;-)

In short, I do appreciate the need to teach principles but also appreciate the need to use vendor specific examples/labs to drive the point home.

walu.

On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 07:03:16 PM GMT+3, Noah via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

The intermittent ip networks and grid-power aside.

Am curious to know why in this day and time and day, we are still focusing on vendor specific trainings.

During earlier 2000's we focused so much on the Cisco's, then somehow the Junipers and today we are seeing the Huawei syntax.

Shouldn't we be focusing in todays Africa on teaching standard protocols even at a fundamental level and cocktail of vendors sythax rather than continually pushing some specific vendors technology which indirectly markets their kit as defacto to those we keep imbibing the skills too.

Just my thoughts....

Noah

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 11:28 Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

This is very true Barrack, I have been teaching a live online class on a Huawei Certification in the past week using Zoom and some of my students, who are on different parts of the country, have really had issues keeping up because of poor internet connections and regular disconnections. Thank God Zoom has a feature to record the classes but for sure this is something that we need to look into.

PS: All my students are using Safaricom as Huawei Kenya offered them with credit cards to buy internet bundles in order to be able to learn online. The training I'm doing is Huawei Certified ICT Associate (Routing & Switching)

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 11:14 AM Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Barrack

You got that right. Both Safaricom and Zuku have been intermittent over the past few days. Let's not even start with Kenya Power...

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On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 1:07 PM Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Listers,

It seems the quality of our Infrastructure is taking a hit as more people are working from home. Talking to friends from different corners of the countries across different Networks, there seems to be a challenge. I hope the Communications Authority is paying attention. The Internet and Infrastructure service providers should not just focus on free Internet and double speeds, quality of the connection is critical.

Best

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Hon Abshiro, Even the G20 has gone virtual. Here they were discussing their countries contributions to the fund researching on a vaccine. Just 2 days before the UK Prime Minister was taken ill. Kathy On Mon, Mar 30, 2020, 00:48 Abshiro Halake via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Thank you Kaka, Noah, Barrack,

I will look out for the Gire bill and see what in our context is the equivalent. I may need your help with providing the appropriate content. We don't have much time so time is of the essence.

Barrack thanks for the recommendation/suggestion of use of Zoom. I am a fun but Grace' insights yesterday opened my eyes to the fact that it may not be very secure. That said, what is, these days. Will add it to the list of apps to consider for sure.

Thanks you all once again.

Cheers,

Abshiro.

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 21:31 Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

Kaka,

You raise very interesting points. I actually think the East African Community should also take up the matter. For Citizens to properly embrace the Internet in the Region, Trust is key. Quality of service, reliability and security of the Networks is a key consideration. We need more investment in connectivity within the EAC Countries and within the region. We also need affordable smart devices. What is the use of connectivity if citizens cannot afford devices that will enable them to make good use of the links. If it means zero rating so be it.

Mheshimiwa Abshiro we need the equivalent of the High Perfomance Computing Act aka the Gore bill to move our country forwad in ICT issues.

Regards

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 8:14 pm Noah via kictanet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

I totally agree with you @Walu and I believe we are on the same page but my only caution was for us not to focus so much on vendor sythax (which can be crammed to aid implementation) but rather principles.

Back to the main topic, Internet infrastructure across East Africa more than just Kenya needs robust upgrades and improving.

Bloody Covid19 is already a game changer and I believe we are all taking lessons from it especially within our space with the ICT infrastructure which politicians used to think was some luxury for a few elites proving to be a necessity in such a time.

*ICT could emerge stronger post COVID-19*

Some foresee an increase in demand for cloud computing platforms with enterprise applications proving to be inaccessible during lockdowns and #karantini.

Increasing usage of remote and collaboration tools. This requires bandwidth like serious bandwidth.

Increase in traffic to video streaming sites and social media platforms (Isolation is tough hey, humans are not wild beasts or gods, they must continue socializing)

Increased usage of apps from grocery delivery apps to essential goods apps.

Most importantly the future of education in the face of another future pendamic [1] with online education becoming defacto especially when schools in future could possibly be closed beyond just one moon.

#ICT infrastructure is #critical infrastructure.

Cheers, Noah

[1] Hellooooo....., there was the Spanish Flu, then the Influenza, then the SARS, then the Swine Flu, the Ebola and you guessed it right COVID-19.

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 19:52 Walubengo J, <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:

...

True, BUT assume I am Safaricom with maybe 70% of my infrastructure on Huawei and want to hire a Telco Engineer.

I prolly would get a candidate who has the Telco degree (the principles) and the Huawei Certification as the added advantage.

The other way around it would be that I hire then send the candidate back to finishing school for some hands on training.

Universities providing both principles and skills will have an advantage.

On a light note, Imagine teaching Blockchain Technologies using only Satoshi's Paper (the principles) <https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf> and not having access to say IBM Blockchain platforms <https://www.ibm.com/blockchain/what-is-blockchain> to provide students with some Lab exposure. The ones with Lab exposure will often stand out.

Having said that, there are those who 'cram' and pass vendor-certificate exams without really learning the principles. That is also a major risk to employers.

walu.

On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 07:37:26 PM GMT+3, Noah <noah@neo.co.tz> wrote:

@Walu

I agree that a cocktail of standard principles and *mutlivendor* sythax should be the approach that can go on to see us provide better skills transfer.

I only caution us from repeating the old and outdated approach of only focusing training on one vendor since this only goes to help promote the vendors products in our markets rather provide true knowledge.

Employers should careless about Cisco or Juniper or Huawei but rather seek knowledgeable candidates who understand technology rather than people who have crammed how to implement a specific vendor sythax.

Noah

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 19:26 Walubengo J, <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:

@Noah,

Maybe we can do both. Teach the principles as well as offer exposure to one or several of the vendor technologies (whichever that maybe). I always find such an approach much more enriching and complimentary in my classes.

Teaching 'principles' without offering some practical vendor sessions is like teaching Wordprocessing - without using MS-Word/OpenOffice/etc because you are trying too hard to be vendor-agnostic ;-)

In short, I do appreciate the need to teach principles but also appreciate the need to use vendor specific examples/labs to drive the point home.

walu.

On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 07:03:16 PM GMT+3, Noah via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

The intermittent ip networks and grid-power aside.

Am curious to know why in this day and time and day, we are still focusing on vendor specific trainings.

During earlier 2000's we focused so much on the Cisco's, then somehow the Junipers and today we are seeing the Huawei syntax.

Shouldn't we be focusing in todays Africa on teaching standard protocols even at a fundamental level and cocktail of vendors sythax rather than continually pushing some specific vendors technology which indirectly markets their kit as defacto to those we keep imbibing the skills too.

Just my thoughts....

Noah

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 11:28 Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

This is very true Barrack, I have been teaching a live online class on a Huawei Certification in the past week using Zoom and some of my students, who are on different parts of the country, have really had issues keeping up because of poor internet connections and regular disconnections. Thank God Zoom has a feature to record the classes but for sure this is something that we need to look into.

PS: All my students are using Safaricom as Huawei Kenya offered them with credit cards to buy internet bundles in order to be able to learn online. The training I'm doing is Huawei Certified ICT Associate (Routing & Switching)

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 11:14 AM Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Barrack

You got that right. Both Safaricom and Zuku have been intermittent over the past few days. Let's not even start with Kenya Power...

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On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 1:07 PM Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Listers,

It seems the quality of our Infrastructure is taking a hit as more people are working from home. Talking to friends from different corners of the countries across different Networks, there seems to be a challenge. I hope the Communications Authority is paying attention. The Internet and Infrastructure service providers should not just focus on free Internet and double speeds, quality of the connection is critical.

Best

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Hi Erick, Honourable Abshiro was asking for an online solution that the Legislators can use during this Covid -19 season. That said Zoom proved itself during the recent ICANN 67 Virtual meeting without any security glitches. It appears the security glitches are coming from configurations as many people are trying to deploy the solution very fast without fully understanding it. The issues are: 1. Can the solution support low bandwidth connectivity?. Can our Senators connect from the Counties where connectivity is not as stable as in the Cities? 2. Can it support masses?, remember parliamentary sessions are broadcast and Wananchi can pop in to observe. That said i pray that if this scenario will ever recur , we will have a home grown solution for engagement. Best Regards On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:49 AM Erick Mwangi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Thanks GG. Zoom is a mine field.

I would advise folks to stay off zoom for any 'serious' discourse ( its ideally for social interactions).

There are a ton of options depending on industry (Skype for Business will be obsolete very soon) TEAMS is one suggestion in terms of ease and setting up.

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On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:17 AM Kathy Mwai via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

Hon Abshiro,

Even the G20 has gone virtual. Here they were discussing their countries contributions to the fund researching on a vaccine. Just 2 days before the UK Prime Minister was taken ill.

Kathy

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020, 00:48 Abshiro Halake via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

Thank you Kaka, Noah, Barrack,

I will look out for the Gire bill and see what in our context is the equivalent. I may need your help with providing the appropriate content. We don't have much time so time is of the essence.

Barrack thanks for the recommendation/suggestion of use of Zoom. I am a fun but Grace' insights yesterday opened my eyes to the fact that it may not be very secure. That said, what is, these days. Will add it to the list of apps to consider for sure.

Thanks you all once again.

Cheers,

Abshiro.

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 21:31 Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

Kaka,

You raise very interesting points. I actually think the East African Community should also take up the matter. For Citizens to properly embrace the Internet in the Region, Trust is key. Quality of service, reliability and security of the Networks is a key consideration. We need more investment in connectivity within the EAC Countries and within the region. We also need affordable smart devices. What is the use of connectivity if citizens cannot afford devices that will enable them to make good use of the links. If it means zero rating so be it.

Mheshimiwa Abshiro we need the equivalent of the High Perfomance Computing Act aka the Gore bill to move our country forwad in ICT issues.

Regards

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 8:14 pm Noah via kictanet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

I totally agree with you @Walu and I believe we are on the same page but my only caution was for us not to focus so much on vendor sythax (which can be crammed to aid implementation) but rather principles.

Back to the main topic, Internet infrastructure across East Africa more than just Kenya needs robust upgrades and improving.

Bloody Covid19 is already a game changer and I believe we are all taking lessons from it especially within our space with the ICT infrastructure which politicians used to think was some luxury for a few elites proving to be a necessity in such a time.

*ICT could emerge stronger post COVID-19*

Some foresee an increase in demand for cloud computing platforms with enterprise applications proving to be inaccessible during lockdowns and #karantini.

Increasing usage of remote and collaboration tools. This requires bandwidth like serious bandwidth.

Increase in traffic to video streaming sites and social media platforms (Isolation is tough hey, humans are not wild beasts or gods, they must continue socializing)

Increased usage of apps from grocery delivery apps to essential goods apps.

Most importantly the future of education in the face of another future pendamic [1] with online education becoming defacto especially when schools in future could possibly be closed beyond just one moon.

#ICT infrastructure is #critical infrastructure.

Cheers, Noah

[1] Hellooooo....., there was the Spanish Flu, then the Influenza, then the SARS, then the Swine Flu, the Ebola and you guessed it right COVID-19.

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 19:52 Walubengo J, <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:

...

True, BUT assume I am Safaricom with maybe 70% of my infrastructure on Huawei and want to hire a Telco Engineer.

I prolly would get a candidate who has the Telco degree (the principles) and the Huawei Certification as the added advantage.

The other way around it would be that I hire then send the candidate back to finishing school for some hands on training.

Universities providing both principles and skills will have an advantage.

On a light note, Imagine teaching Blockchain Technologies using only Satoshi's Paper (the principles) <https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf> and not having access to say IBM Blockchain platforms <https://www.ibm.com/blockchain/what-is-blockchain> to provide students with some Lab exposure. The ones with Lab exposure will often stand out.

Having said that, there are those who 'cram' and pass vendor-certificate exams without really learning the principles. That is also a major risk to employers.

walu.

On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 07:37:26 PM GMT+3, Noah <noah@neo.co.tz> wrote:

@Walu

I agree that a cocktail of standard principles and *mutlivendor* sythax should be the approach that can go on to see us provide better skills transfer.

I only caution us from repeating the old and outdated approach of only focusing training on one vendor since this only goes to help promote the vendors products in our markets rather provide true knowledge.

Employers should careless about Cisco or Juniper or Huawei but rather seek knowledgeable candidates who understand technology rather than people who have crammed how to implement a specific vendor sythax.

Noah

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 19:26 Walubengo J, <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:

@Noah,

Maybe we can do both. Teach the principles as well as offer exposure to one or several of the vendor technologies (whichever that maybe). I always find such an approach much more enriching and complimentary in my classes.

Teaching 'principles' without offering some practical vendor sessions is like teaching Wordprocessing - without using MS-Word/OpenOffice/etc because you are trying too hard to be vendor-agnostic ;-)

In short, I do appreciate the need to teach principles but also appreciate the need to use vendor specific examples/labs to drive the point home.

walu.

On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 07:03:16 PM GMT+3, Noah via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

The intermittent ip networks and grid-power aside.

Am curious to know why in this day and time and day, we are still focusing on vendor specific trainings.

During earlier 2000's we focused so much on the Cisco's, then somehow the Junipers and today we are seeing the Huawei syntax.

Shouldn't we be focusing in todays Africa on teaching standard protocols even at a fundamental level and cocktail of vendors sythax rather than continually pushing some specific vendors technology which indirectly markets their kit as defacto to those we keep imbibing the skills too.

Just my thoughts....

Noah

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 11:28 Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

This is very true Barrack, I have been teaching a live online class on a Huawei Certification in the past week using Zoom and some of my students, who are on different parts of the country, have really had issues keeping up because of poor internet connections and regular disconnections. Thank God Zoom has a feature to record the classes but for sure this is something that we need to look into.

PS: All my students are using Safaricom as Huawei Kenya offered them with credit cards to buy internet bundles in order to be able to learn online. The training I'm doing is Huawei Certified ICT Associate (Routing & Switching)

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 11:14 AM Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Barrack

You got that right. Both Safaricom and Zuku have been intermittent over the past few days. Let's not even start with Kenya Power...

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On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 1:07 PM Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Listers,

It seems the quality of our Infrastructure is taking a hit as more people are working from home. Talking to friends from different corners of the countries across different Networks, there seems to be a challenge. I hope the Communications Authority is paying attention. The Internet and Infrastructure service providers should not just focus on free Internet and double speeds, quality of the connection is critical.

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I would hesitate to write-off any product based on security concerns. Security is as good as you configure it to be.  TEAMS can be as less secure as the alleged insecurity of ZOOM depending on how it was implemented and configured. In short, security is one independent conversation that cannot be collapsed into a singly product name.  Otherwise you create a false sense of security....e.g, I use TEAMS so I am safer than those who use alternatives eg. ZOOM. When I was growing up, I used to have similar thinking.  .. since I used LINUX, I always had this false sense of being more secure than those who used WINDOWS platforms ;-).  Security is more about the hardening, updating, configuring, maintaining, etc of your digital assets as opposed to the product itself. walu. nb: ofcourse some products are outrightly nefarious and would still be unsafe even if you spend hours hardening them to be safe.  On Monday, March 30, 2020, 12:11:53 PM GMT+3, Erick Mwangi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Thanks GG. Zoom is a mine field. I would advise folks to stay off zoom for any 'serious' discourse ( its ideally for social interactions).  There are a ton of options depending on industry (Skype for Business will be obsolete very soon) TEAMS is one suggestion in terms of ease and setting up. Eric  E Njoroge MwangiTechnology| FINTECH | Big Data Cell +44 7539372742Skype: Erick.mwangi On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:17 AM Kathy Mwai via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Hon Abshiro,  Even the G20 has gone virtual. Here they were discussing their countries contributions to the fund researching on a vaccine. Just 2 days before the UK Prime Minister was taken ill.  Kathy On Mon, Mar 30, 2020, 00:48 Abshiro Halake via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Thank you Kaka, Noah, Barrack, I will look out for the  Gire bill and see what in our context is the equivalent. I may need your help with providing the appropriate content. We don't have much time so time is of the essence.   Barrack thanks for the recommendation/suggestion of use of Zoom. I am a fun but Grace' insights yesterday opened my eyes to the fact that it may not be very secure. That said, what is, these days. Will add it to the list of apps to consider for sure.  Thanks you all once again.  Cheers,  Abshiro.  On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 21:31 Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Kaka, You raise very interesting points. I actually think the East African Community should also take up the matter. For Citizens to properly embrace the Internet in the Region, Trust is key. Quality of service, reliability and security of the Networks is a key consideration. We need more investment in connectivity within the EAC Countries and within the region. We also need affordable smart devices. What is the use of connectivity if citizens cannot afford devices that will enable them to make good use of the links. If it means zero rating so be it.  Mheshimiwa Abshiro we need the equivalent of the High Perfomance Computing Act aka the Gore bill to move our country forwad in ICT issues. Regards On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 8:14 pm Noah via kictanet, <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: I totally agree with you @Walu and I believe we are on the same page but my only caution was for us not to focus so much on vendor sythax (which can be crammed to aid implementation) but rather principles. Back to the main topic, Internet infrastructure across East Africa more than just Kenya needs robust upgrades and improving. Bloody Covid19 is already a game changer and I believe we are all taking lessons from it especially within our space with the ICT infrastructure which politicians used to think was some luxury for a few elites proving to be a necessity in such a time.  *ICT could emerge stronger post COVID-19* Some foresee an increase in demand for cloud computing platforms with enterprise applications proving to be inaccessible during lockdowns and #karantini.  Increasing usage of remote and collaboration tools. This requires bandwidth like serious bandwidth. Increase in traffic to video streaming sites and social media platforms (Isolation is tough hey, humans are not wild beasts or gods, they must continue socializing) Increased usage of apps from grocery delivery apps to essential goods apps.  Most importantly the future of education in the face of another future pendamic [1] with online education becoming defacto especially when schools in future could possibly be closed beyond just one moon. #ICT infrastructure is #critical infrastructure. Cheers,Noah [1] Hellooooo....., there was the Spanish Flu, then the Influenza, then the SARS, then the Swine Flu, the Ebola and you guessed it right COVID-19. On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 19:52 Walubengo J, <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: True, BUT assume I am Safaricom with maybe 70% of my infrastructure on Huawei and want to hire a Telco Engineer. I prolly would get a candidate who has the Telco degree (the principles) and the Huawei Certification as the added advantage. The other way around it would be that I hire then send the candidate back to finishing school for some hands on training.  Universities providing both principles and skills will have an advantage. On a light note, Imagine teaching Blockchain Technologies using only Satoshi's Paper (the principles) and not having access to say IBM Blockchain platforms to provide students with some  Lab exposure. The ones with Lab exposure will often stand out. Having said that, there are those who 'cram' and pass vendor-certificate exams without really learning the principles. That is also a major risk to employers. walu. On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 07:37:26 PM GMT+3, Noah <noah@neo.co.tz> wrote: @Walu I agree that a cocktail of standard principles and *mutlivendor* sythax should be the approach that can go on to see us provide better skills transfer. I only caution us from repeating the old and outdated approach of only focusing training on one vendor since this only goes to help promote the vendors products in our markets rather provide true knowledge. Employers should careless about Cisco or Juniper or Huawei but rather seek knowledgeable candidates who understand technology rather than people who have  crammed how to implement a specific vendor sythax. Noah On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 19:26 Walubengo J, <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: @Noah, Maybe we can do both.  Teach the principles as well as offer exposure to one or several of the vendor technologies (whichever that maybe).  I always find such an approach much more enriching and complimentary in my classes. Teaching 'principles' without offering some practical vendor sessions is like teaching Wordprocessing - without using MS-Word/OpenOffice/etc because you are trying too hard to be vendor-agnostic ;-) In short, I do appreciate the need to teach principles but also appreciate the need to use vendor specific examples/labs to drive the point home.  walu. On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 07:03:16 PM GMT+3, Noah via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: The intermittent ip networks and grid-power aside. Am curious to know why in this day and time and day, we are still focusing on vendor specific trainings. During earlier 2000's we focused so much on the Cisco's, then somehow the Junipers and today we are seeing the Huawei syntax. Shouldn't we be focusing in todays Africa on teaching standard protocols even at a fundamental level and cocktail of vendors sythax rather than continually pushing some specific vendors technology which indirectly markets their kit as defacto to those we keep imbibing the skills too. Just my thoughts.... Noah On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 11:28 Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet, <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: This is very true Barrack, I have been teaching a live online class on a Huawei Certification in the past weekusing Zoom and some of my students, who are on different parts of the country, have really had issues keeping up because of poor internet connections and regular disconnections. Thank God Zoom has a feature to record the classes but for sure this is something that we need to look into.  PS: All my students are using Safaricom as Huawei Kenya offered them with credit cards to buy internet bundles in order to be able to learn online. The trainingI'm doing is Huawei Certified ICT Associate (Routing & Switching) On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 11:14 AM Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Barrack You got that right. Both Safaricom and Zuku have been intermittent over the past few days. Let's not even start with Kenya Power... Regards AliHussein Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 1:07 PM Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Listers, It seems the quality of our Infrastructure is taking a hit as more people are working from home. Talking to friends from different corners of the countries across different Networks, there seems to be a challenge. I hope the Communications Authority is paying attention. 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Listers, Interesting perspectives on what we can do to improve the resilience of the Internet in this season. You can access the blog here <https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2020/02/is-the-internet-resilient-enough-to-withstand-coronavirus/> . Best Regards On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:48 PM Abshiro Halake via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Thank you all for the flow of information. Much appreciated indeed.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020, 13:14 Walubengo J via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

I would hesitate to write-off any product based on security concerns.

Security is as good as you configure it to be. TEAMS can be as less secure as the alleged insecurity of ZOOM depending on how it was implemented and configured.

In short, security is one independent conversation that cannot be collapsed into a singly product name.

Otherwise you create a false sense of security....e.g, I use TEAMS so I am safer than those who use alternatives eg. ZOOM.

When I was growing up, I used to have similar thinking. .. since I used LINUX, I always had this false sense of being more secure than those who used WINDOWS platforms ;-).

Security is more about the hardening, updating, configuring, maintaining, etc of your digital assets as opposed to the product itself.

walu. nb: ofcourse some products are outrightly nefarious and would still be unsafe even if you spend hours hardening them to be safe.

On Monday, March 30, 2020, 12:11:53 PM GMT+3, Erick Mwangi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Thanks GG. Zoom is a mine field.

I would advise folks to stay off zoom for any 'serious' discourse ( its ideally for social interactions).

There are a ton of options depending on industry (Skype for Business will be obsolete very soon) TEAMS is one suggestion in terms of ease and setting up.

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On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:17 AM Kathy Mwai via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Hon Abshiro,

Even the G20 has gone virtual. Here they were discussing their countries contributions to the fund researching on a vaccine. Just 2 days before the UK Prime Minister was taken ill.

Kathy

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020, 00:48 Abshiro Halake via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Thank you Kaka, Noah, Barrack,

I will look out for the Gire bill and see what in our context is the equivalent. I may need your help with providing the appropriate content. We don't have much time so time is of the essence.

Barrack thanks for the recommendation/suggestion of use of Zoom. I am a fun but Grace' insights yesterday opened my eyes to the fact that it may not be very secure. That said, what is, these days. Will add it to the list of apps to consider for sure.

Thanks you all once again.

Cheers,

Abshiro.

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 21:31 Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Kaka,

You raise very interesting points. I actually think the East African Community should also take up the matter. For Citizens to properly embrace the Internet in the Region, Trust is key. Quality of service, reliability and security of the Networks is a key consideration. We need more investment in connectivity within the EAC Countries and within the region. We also need affordable smart devices. What is the use of connectivity if citizens cannot afford devices that will enable them to make good use of the links. If it means zero rating so be it.

Mheshimiwa Abshiro we need the equivalent of the High Perfomance Computing Act aka the Gore bill to move our country forwad in ICT issues.

Regards

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 8:14 pm Noah via kictanet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

I totally agree with you @Walu and I believe we are on the same page but my only caution was for us not to focus so much on vendor sythax (which can be crammed to aid implementation) but rather principles.

Back to the main topic, Internet infrastructure across East Africa more than just Kenya needs robust upgrades and improving.

Bloody Covid19 is already a game changer and I believe we are all taking lessons from it especially within our space with the ICT infrastructure which politicians used to think was some luxury for a few elites proving to be a necessity in such a time.

*ICT could emerge stronger post COVID-19*

Some foresee an increase in demand for cloud computing platforms with enterprise applications proving to be inaccessible during lockdowns and #karantini.

Increasing usage of remote and collaboration tools. This requires bandwidth like serious bandwidth.

Increase in traffic to video streaming sites and social media platforms (Isolation is tough hey, humans are not wild beasts or gods, they must continue socializing)

Increased usage of apps from grocery delivery apps to essential goods apps.

Most importantly the future of education in the face of another future pendamic [1] with online education becoming defacto especially when schools in future could possibly be closed beyond just one moon.

#ICT infrastructure is #critical infrastructure.

Cheers, Noah

[1] Hellooooo....., there was the Spanish Flu, then the Influenza, then the SARS, then the Swine Flu, the Ebola and you guessed it right COVID-19.

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 19:52 Walubengo J, <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:

True, BUT assume I am Safaricom with maybe 70% of my infrastructure on Huawei and want to hire a Telco Engineer.

I prolly would get a candidate who has the Telco degree (the principles) and the Huawei Certification as the added advantage.

The other way around it would be that I hire then send the candidate back to finishing school for some hands on training.

Universities providing both principles and skills will have an advantage.

On a light note, Imagine teaching Blockchain Technologies using only Satoshi's Paper (the principles) <https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf> and not having access to say IBM Blockchain platforms <https://www.ibm.com/blockchain/what-is-blockchain> to provide students with some Lab exposure. The ones with Lab exposure will often stand out.

Having said that, there are those who 'cram' and pass vendor-certificate exams without really learning the principles. That is also a major risk to employers.

walu.

On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 07:37:26 PM GMT+3, Noah <noah@neo.co.tz> wrote:

@Walu

I agree that a cocktail of standard principles and *mutlivendor* sythax should be the approach that can go on to see us provide better skills transfer.

I only caution us from repeating the old and outdated approach of only focusing training on one vendor since this only goes to help promote the vendors products in our markets rather provide true knowledge.

Employers should careless about Cisco or Juniper or Huawei but rather seek knowledgeable candidates who understand technology rather than people who have crammed how to implement a specific vendor sythax.

Noah

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 19:26 Walubengo J, <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:

@Noah,

Maybe we can do both. Teach the principles as well as offer exposure to one or several of the vendor technologies (whichever that maybe). I always find such an approach much more enriching and complimentary in my classes.

Teaching 'principles' without offering some practical vendor sessions is like teaching Wordprocessing - without using MS-Word/OpenOffice/etc because you are trying too hard to be vendor-agnostic ;-)

In short, I do appreciate the need to teach principles but also appreciate the need to use vendor specific examples/labs to drive the point home.

walu.

On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 07:03:16 PM GMT+3, Noah via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

The intermittent ip networks and grid-power aside.

Am curious to know why in this day and time and day, we are still focusing on vendor specific trainings.

During earlier 2000's we focused so much on the Cisco's, then somehow the Junipers and today we are seeing the Huawei syntax.

Shouldn't we be focusing in todays Africa on teaching standard protocols even at a fundamental level and cocktail of vendors sythax rather than continually pushing some specific vendors technology which indirectly markets their kit as defacto to those we keep imbibing the skills too.

Just my thoughts....

Noah

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 11:28 Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

This is very true Barrack, I have been teaching a live online class on a Huawei Certification in the past week using Zoom and some of my students, who are on different parts of the country, have really had issues keeping up because of poor internet connections and regular disconnections. Thank God Zoom has a feature to record the classes but for sure this is something that we need to look into.

PS: All my students are using Safaricom as Huawei Kenya offered them with credit cards to buy internet bundles in order to be able to learn online. The training I'm doing is Huawei Certified ICT Associate (Routing & Switching)

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 11:14 AM Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Barrack

You got that right. Both Safaricom and Zuku have been intermittent over the past few days. Let's not even start with Kenya Power...

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On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 1:07 PM Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Listers,

It seems the quality of our Infrastructure is taking a hit as more people are working from home. Talking to friends from different corners of the countries across different Networks, there seems to be a challenge. I hope the Communications Authority is paying attention. The Internet and Infrastructure service providers should not just focus on free Internet and double speeds, quality of the connection is critical.

Best

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@ John great points. Been following the Technology Service Providers of Kenya Tweeter Handle and i came across the following: In January 2020, regular Internet data traffic on the Kenya Internet Exchange Point was in the region of 7.50 Gbps, before jumping to 22.6 Gbps in early March 2020. This then jumped to 27 Gbps recently and they have seen spikes as high 57.80 Gbps ~ Just from a call in which i heard that de-cix ixp is exchanging 9.1 TBS of Traffic, seems we have some work to do. Regards On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 5:20 PM John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:

One often overlooked factor in the internet ecosystem is hosting (including CDN's , caches and peering points).

I bet more than 70% of the conferencing traffic (zoom,webex, skype, microsoft) and e-learning that has an audio visual component; a huge chunk of that traffic is exchanged outside the country - mainly in Europe. Which means depending on the vendors architecture peer to peer traffic flows out of KE first.

This has huge cost implications for ISP's, a huge impact on quality but even better food for thought; if a single cable cut was to happen around this corona time, all work from home probably grinds to a halt or slows down.We need a good scalable local solution for commonly used services like conferencing.

JG

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 4:48 PM Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

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Listers,

Interesting perspectives on what we can do to improve the resilience of the Internet in this season. You can access the blog here <https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2020/02/is-the-internet-resilient-enough-to-withstand-coronavirus/> .

Best Regards

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:48 PM Abshiro Halake via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

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Thank you all for the flow of information. Much appreciated indeed.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020, 13:14 Walubengo J via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

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I would hesitate to write-off any product based on security concerns.

Security is as good as you configure it to be. TEAMS can be as less secure as the alleged insecurity of ZOOM depending on how it was implemented and configured.

In short, security is one independent conversation that cannot be collapsed into a singly product name.

Otherwise you create a false sense of security....e.g, I use TEAMS so I am safer than those who use alternatives eg. ZOOM.

When I was growing up, I used to have similar thinking. .. since I used LINUX, I always had this false sense of being more secure than those who used WINDOWS platforms ;-).

Security is more about the hardening, updating, configuring, maintaining, etc of your digital assets as opposed to the product itself.

walu. nb: ofcourse some products are outrightly nefarious and would still be unsafe even if you spend hours hardening them to be safe.

On Monday, March 30, 2020, 12:11:53 PM GMT+3, Erick Mwangi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Thanks GG. Zoom is a mine field.

I would advise folks to stay off zoom for any 'serious' discourse ( its ideally for social interactions).

There are a ton of options depending on industry (Skype for Business will be obsolete very soon) TEAMS is one suggestion in terms of ease and setting up.

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On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:17 AM Kathy Mwai via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Hon Abshiro,

Even the G20 has gone virtual. Here they were discussing their countries contributions to the fund researching on a vaccine. Just 2 days before the UK Prime Minister was taken ill.

Kathy

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020, 00:48 Abshiro Halake via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Thank you Kaka, Noah, Barrack,

I will look out for the Gire bill and see what in our context is the equivalent. I may need your help with providing the appropriate content. We don't have much time so time is of the essence.

Barrack thanks for the recommendation/suggestion of use of Zoom. I am a fun but Grace' insights yesterday opened my eyes to the fact that it may not be very secure. That said, what is, these days. Will add it to the list of apps to consider for sure.

Thanks you all once again.

Cheers,

Abshiro.

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 21:31 Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Kaka,

You raise very interesting points. I actually think the East African Community should also take up the matter. For Citizens to properly embrace the Internet in the Region, Trust is key. Quality of service, reliability and security of the Networks is a key consideration. We need more investment in connectivity within the EAC Countries and within the region. We also need affordable smart devices. What is the use of connectivity if citizens cannot afford devices that will enable them to make good use of the links. If it means zero rating so be it.

Mheshimiwa Abshiro we need the equivalent of the High Perfomance Computing Act aka the Gore bill to move our country forwad in ICT issues.

Regards

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 8:14 pm Noah via kictanet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

I totally agree with you @Walu and I believe we are on the same page but my only caution was for us not to focus so much on vendor sythax (which can be crammed to aid implementation) but rather principles.

Back to the main topic, Internet infrastructure across East Africa more than just Kenya needs robust upgrades and improving.

Bloody Covid19 is already a game changer and I believe we are all taking lessons from it especially within our space with the ICT infrastructure which politicians used to think was some luxury for a few elites proving to be a necessity in such a time.

*ICT could emerge stronger post COVID-19*

Some foresee an increase in demand for cloud computing platforms with enterprise applications proving to be inaccessible during lockdowns and #karantini.

Increasing usage of remote and collaboration tools. This requires bandwidth like serious bandwidth.

Increase in traffic to video streaming sites and social media platforms (Isolation is tough hey, humans are not wild beasts or gods, they must continue socializing)

Increased usage of apps from grocery delivery apps to essential goods apps.

Most importantly the future of education in the face of another future pendamic [1] with online education becoming defacto especially when schools in future could possibly be closed beyond just one moon.

#ICT infrastructure is #critical infrastructure.

Cheers, Noah

[1] Hellooooo....., there was the Spanish Flu, then the Influenza, then the SARS, then the Swine Flu, the Ebola and you guessed it right COVID-19.

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 19:52 Walubengo J, <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:

True, BUT assume I am Safaricom with maybe 70% of my infrastructure on Huawei and want to hire a Telco Engineer.

I prolly would get a candidate who has the Telco degree (the principles) and the Huawei Certification as the added advantage.

The other way around it would be that I hire then send the candidate back to finishing school for some hands on training.

Universities providing both principles and skills will have an advantage.

On a light note, Imagine teaching Blockchain Technologies using only Satoshi's Paper (the principles) <https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf> and not having access to say IBM Blockchain platforms <https://www.ibm.com/blockchain/what-is-blockchain> to provide students with some Lab exposure. The ones with Lab exposure will often stand out.

Having said that, there are those who 'cram' and pass vendor-certificate exams without really learning the principles. That is also a major risk to employers.

walu.

On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 07:37:26 PM GMT+3, Noah <noah@neo.co.tz> wrote:

@Walu

I agree that a cocktail of standard principles and *mutlivendor* sythax should be the approach that can go on to see us provide better skills transfer.

I only caution us from repeating the old and outdated approach of only focusing training on one vendor since this only goes to help promote the vendors products in our markets rather provide true knowledge.

Employers should careless about Cisco or Juniper or Huawei but rather seek knowledgeable candidates who understand technology rather than people who have crammed how to implement a specific vendor sythax.

Noah

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 19:26 Walubengo J, <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:

@Noah,

Maybe we can do both. Teach the principles as well as offer exposure to one or several of the vendor technologies (whichever that maybe). I always find such an approach much more enriching and complimentary in my classes.

Teaching 'principles' without offering some practical vendor sessions is like teaching Wordprocessing - without using MS-Word/OpenOffice/etc because you are trying too hard to be vendor-agnostic ;-)

In short, I do appreciate the need to teach principles but also appreciate the need to use vendor specific examples/labs to drive the point home.

walu.

On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 07:03:16 PM GMT+3, Noah via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

The intermittent ip networks and grid-power aside.

Am curious to know why in this day and time and day, we are still focusing on vendor specific trainings.

During earlier 2000's we focused so much on the Cisco's, then somehow the Junipers and today we are seeing the Huawei syntax.

Shouldn't we be focusing in todays Africa on teaching standard protocols even at a fundamental level and cocktail of vendors sythax rather than continually pushing some specific vendors technology which indirectly markets their kit as defacto to those we keep imbibing the skills too.

Just my thoughts....

Noah

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 11:28 Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

This is very true Barrack, I have been teaching a live online class on a Huawei Certification in the past week using Zoom and some of my students, who are on different parts of the country, have really had issues keeping up because of poor internet connections and regular disconnections. Thank God Zoom has a feature to record the classes but for sure this is something that we need to look into.

PS: All my students are using Safaricom as Huawei Kenya offered them with credit cards to buy internet bundles in order to be able to learn online. The training I'm doing is Huawei Certified ICT Associate (Routing & Switching)

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 11:14 AM Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Barrack

You got that right. Both Safaricom and Zuku have been intermittent over the past few days. Let's not even start with Kenya Power...

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On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 1:07 PM Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Listers,

It seems the quality of our Infrastructure is taking a hit as more people are working from home. Talking to friends from different corners of the countries across different Networks, there seems to be a challenge. I hope the Communications Authority is paying attention. The Internet and Infrastructure service providers should not just focus on free Internet and double speeds, quality of the connection is critical.

Best

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