@Walu

I agree that a cocktail of standard principles and *mutlivendor* sythax should be the approach that can go on to see us provide better skills transfer.

I only caution us from repeating the old and outdated approach of only focusing training on one vendor since this only goes to help promote the vendors products in our markets rather provide true knowledge.

Employers should careless about Cisco or Juniper or Huawei but rather seek knowledgeable candidates who understand technology rather than people who have  crammed how to implement a specific vendor sythax.


Noah


On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 19:26 Walubengo J, <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Noah,

Maybe we can do both.  Teach the principles as well as offer exposure to one or several of the vendor technologies (whichever that maybe).  I always find such an approach much more enriching and complimentary in my classes.

Teaching 'principles' without offering some practical vendor sessions is like teaching Wordprocessing - without using MS-Word/OpenOffice/etc because you are trying too hard to be vendor-agnostic ;-)

In short, I do appreciate the need to teach principles but also appreciate the need to use vendor specific examples/labs to drive the point home. 

walu.

On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 07:03:16 PM GMT+3, Noah via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:


The intermittent ip networks and grid-power aside.

Am curious to know why in this day and time and day, we are still focusing on vendor specific trainings.

During earlier 2000's we focused so much on the Cisco's, then somehow the Junipers and today we are seeing the Huawei syntax.

Shouldn't we be focusing in todays Africa on teaching standard protocols even at a fundamental level and cocktail of vendors sythax rather than continually pushing some specific vendors technology which indirectly markets their kit as defacto to those we keep imbibing the skills too.

Just my thoughts....

Noah


On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 11:28 Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet, <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
This is very true Barrack, 
I have been teaching a live online class on a Huawei Certification in the past week
using Zoom and some of my students, who are on different parts of the country, 
have really had issues keeping up because of poor internet connections and 
regular disconnections. Thank God Zoom has a feature to record the classes 
but for sure this is something that we need to look into. 

PS: All my students are using Safaricom as Huawei Kenya offered them with 
credit cards to buy internet bundles in order to be able to learn online. The training
I'm doing is Huawei Certified ICT Associate (Routing & Switching)

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 11:14 AM Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Barrack

You got that right. Both Safaricom and Zuku have been intermittent over the past few days. Let's not even start with Kenya Power...

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On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 1:07 PM Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers,

It seems the quality of our Infrastructure is taking a hit as more people are working from home. Talking to friends from different corners of the countries across different Networks, there seems to be a challenge. I hope the Communications Authority is paying attention. The Internet and Infrastructure service providers should not just focus on free Internet and double speeds, quality of the connection is critical.

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