Press Statement By CA on DMS - rev 1.doc
Hello Listers. Please see the statement from CA regarding the Device Management System that is under deployment. We hope listers shall objectively engage and seek to understand what the regulator is doing in the interest of the public. Media reports on this were misleading, but be rest assured we shall continue to engage all stakeholders so that they can be in full picture. Regards, Rachel
Dear Rachel, Thank you for your revert. I however note that the statement in mentioning the mischief that the gadgets were meant to remedy i.e counterfeit phones failed to mention the absolute capability of the said device. The Authoritiy has not expressly stated that the device is incapable of performing the alleged actions. The only way to ease the state of panic over the whole affair is for a technical audit to be carried to determine what the said gadgets are capable of so that rest easy that our privacy is guaranteed! I'm sure we have the technological expertise in this mailing list to spearhead this. Kind regards, Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu Advocate-Fintech and ICT Policy On Fri, 17 Feb 2017 at 19:43 Alwala, Rachel via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hello Listers.
Please see the statement from CA regarding the Device Management System that is under deployment. We hope listers shall objectively engage and seek to understand what the regulator is doing in the interest of the public. Media reports on this were misleading, but be rest assured we shall continue to engage all stakeholders so that they can be in full picture.
Regards,
Rachel
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Thank you Rachel, In addition to the questions raised, it is most interesting that the regulator wants to whitelist devices. Could it not have blacklisted instead? Would this not have been more proportionate? 2017-02-17 14:31 GMT+03:00 Alwala, Rachel via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>:
Hello Listers.
Please see the statement from CA regarding the Device Management System that is under deployment. We hope listers shall objectively engage and seek to understand what the regulator is doing in the interest of the public. Media reports on this were misleading, but be rest assured we shall continue to engage all stakeholders so that they can be in full picture.
Regards,
Rachel
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Thanks Rachael for sharing this statement. The statement notes that _"All mobile operators will be required to connect to the DMS and ensure that blacklisted devices do not access mobile services. This process was initiated with the understanding of the operators through a consultative process from the conceptualization stage." _Is there more than meets the eye? Why would operators then not support a process that commenced with their understanding and in which they participated? We need honestly here. Further, in an article carried by the Daily Nation today, CA seems to be taking a hard line stance or should I say showing some intolerance/ impatience? See below an excerpt: Monitoring of mobile phone networks to take effect - agency says _"Defending the Device Management System (DMS), Communication Authority Director-General Francis Wangusi said he would not stop its implementation, not even for public consultation._ _Mr Wangusi said the DMS had been in the works for almost a year and that consultation with mobile operators was sufficient."_ Kenya's 2010 Constitution provides for public participation but this article seems to be suggesting that according to CA, selective participation makes things right? This issue of monitoring will involve the public and therefore is of public interest. Operators are meant to facilitate the process. This system therefore need some form of vetting and CA which has been known to engage needs to uphold this value and continue consulting. http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Agency-to-proceed-with-communication-surveillan... Best regards Githaiga, Grace On Friday, 17-02-2017 at 14:31 Alwala, Rachel via kictanet wrote: Hello Listers. Please see the statement from CA regarding the Device Management System that is under deployment. We hope listers shall objectively engage and seek to understand what the regulator is doing in the interest of the public. Media reports on this were misleading, but be rest assured we shall continue to engage all stakeholders so that they can be in full picture. Regards, Rachel _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ggithaiga%40kictanet.o... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. Co-Convenor Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) Twitter:@ggithaiga Tel: 254722701495 Skype: gracegithaiga Alternate email: ggithaiga@hotmail.com Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gracegithaiga www.kictanet.or.ke "Change only happens when ordinary people get involved, get engaged and come together to demand it. I am asking you to believe. Not in my ability to bring about change – but in yours"---Barrack Obama.
"13) The Authority has been consulting and has engaged industry stakeholders and relevant Government Agencies in an effort to manage the proliferation of illegal mobile communications devices. The said Agencies include the Anti-Counterfeit Agency (ACA), Kenya Revenue Authority (KRA), National Police Service (NPS) and Kenya Bureau of Standards (KEBS). All mobile network operators and equipment vendors have also been engaged since the conceptualisation of the initiative. " Is it just me, but I am trying to understand how KRA (the taxman who has been eyeing our Mpesa for a while now) is involved in blacklisting devices. Won't that be ultravires in its part? Or do they have an interest that CAK doesn't want to mention? On 17/02/2017, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Thanks Rachael for sharing this statement.
The statement notes that _"All mobile operators will be required to connect to the DMS and ensure that blacklisted devices do not access mobile services. This process was initiated with the understanding of the operators through a consultative process from the conceptualization stage." _Is there more than meets the eye? Why would operators then not support a process that commenced with their understanding and in which they participated? We need honestly here.
Further, in an article carried by the Daily Nation today, CA seems to be taking a hard line stance or should I say showing some intolerance/ impatience? See below an excerpt:
Monitoring of mobile phone networks to take effect - agency says
_"Defending the Device Management System (DMS), Communication Authority Director-General Francis Wangusi said he would not stop its implementation, not even for public consultation._
_Mr Wangusi said the DMS had been in the works for almost a year and that consultation with mobile operators was sufficient."_
Kenya's 2010 Constitution provides for public participation but this article seems to be suggesting that according to CA, selective participation makes things right? This issue of monitoring will involve the public and therefore is of public interest. Operators are meant to facilitate the process. This system therefore need some form of vetting and CA which has been known to engage needs to uphold this value and continue consulting.
http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Agency-to-proceed-with-communication-surveillan...
Best regards
Githaiga, Grace
On Friday, 17-02-2017 at 14:31 Alwala, Rachel via kictanet wrote:
Hello Listers.
Please see the statement from CA regarding the Device Management System that is under deployment. We hope listers shall objectively engage and seek to understand what the regulator is doing in the interest of the public. Media reports on this were misleading, but be rest assured we shall continue to engage all stakeholders so that they can be in full picture.
Regards,
Rachel
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On 17 February 2017 at 14:31, Alwala, Rachel via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hello Listers.
Please see the statement from CA regarding the Device Management System that is under deployment. We hope listers shall objectively engage and seek to understand what the regulator is doing in the interest of the public. Media reports on this were misleading, but be rest assured we shall continue to engage all stakeholders so that they can be in full picture.
Regards,
Rachel
Okiya Omtata will save us from this CA mischief. It's mischief whichever way you look at it. See, between blacklisting unregistered numbers used on the networks and 'counterfeit' devices, which one is more urgent? Counterfeit devices use SIM cards, but it's the SIM cards that can be registered to citizens and be traced. Why not just ask the MNOs to effect the regulation barring unregistered SIM cards and let Kenyans be? Counterfeits come in through the borders (Port, Airports) where KRA and Police are complicit in 'eating' an letting them pass! Another thing, CA should have notified Kenyans that this was in the works, and should have been transparent enough to publish its capabilities. It did not. So, the force with which the DG is going about this only reeks of an (quiet) executive order that he and his board can't brush off, especially when it's tagged with 'national security' label. This device will be used to spy on people, block their devices, block mobile communications the way M7 and others did. Let's sit and watch, but I still hope Omtatah and the Judiciary will save Kenyans. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft."
You can't fool all of the people all of the time. On 18 Feb 2017 11:10, "Odhiambo Washington via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
On 17 February 2017 at 14:31, Alwala, Rachel via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hello Listers.
Please see the statement from CA regarding the Device Management System that is under deployment. We hope listers shall objectively engage and seek to understand what the regulator is doing in the interest of the public. Media reports on this were misleading, but be rest assured we shall continue to engage all stakeholders so that they can be in full picture.
Regards,
Rachel
Okiya Omtata will save us from this CA mischief.
It's mischief whichever way you look at it.
See, between blacklisting unregistered numbers used on the networks and 'counterfeit' devices, which one is more urgent? Counterfeit devices use SIM cards, but it's the SIM cards that can be registered to citizens and be traced. Why not just ask the MNOs to effect the regulation barring unregistered SIM cards and let Kenyans be? Counterfeits come in through the borders (Port, Airports) where KRA and Police are complicit in 'eating' an letting them pass!
Another thing, CA should have notified Kenyans that this was in the works, and should have been transparent enough to publish its capabilities. It did not. So, the force with which the DG is going about this only reeks of an (quiet) executive order that he and his board can't brush off, especially when it's tagged with 'national security' label.
This device will be used to spy on people, block their devices, block mobile communications the way M7 and others did. Let's sit and watch, but I still hope Omtatah and the Judiciary will save Kenyans.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft."
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Listers, CA has no interested in snooping on your private communication. What would we gain from that! We are not a law enforcement agency in the strict sense of the word. The system is a central database containing models of all type approved (by CA) and genuine mobile devices (GSMA), and handsets imported legally into the Country (KRA) and a blacklist of stolen handsets. The mobile networks will query this database before providing service in microseconds. Phones and devices that do not meet the cut will be denied service. In brief that's how the system works. In respect to privacy, CA has imposed a licence condition on all service providers to respect the privacy of users as one of the mechanisms of promoting consumer welfare. Listers should therefore rest assured that privacy of services users at the heart of our regulatory work. Sent from my iPhone On 18 Feb 2017, at 11:48, Anderson Levi <anderson.levi@gmail.com<mailto:anderson.levi@gmail.com>> wrote: You can't fool all of the people all of the time. On 18 Feb 2017 11:10, "Odhiambo Washington via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: On 17 February 2017 at 14:31, Alwala, Rachel via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Hello Listers. Please see the statement from CA regarding the Device Management System that is under deployment. We hope listers shall objectively engage and seek to understand what the regulator is doing in the interest of the public. Media reports on this were misleading, but be rest assured we shall continue to engage all stakeholders so that they can be in full picture. Regards, Rachel Okiya Omtata will save us from this CA mischief. It's mischief whichever way you look at it. See, between blacklisting unregistered numbers used on the networks and 'counterfeit' devices, which one is more urgent? Counterfeit devices use SIM cards, but it's the SIM cards that can be registered to citizens and be traced. Why not just ask the MNOs to effect the regulation barring unregistered SIM cards and let Kenyans be? Counterfeits come in through the borders (Port, Airports) where KRA and Police are complicit in 'eating' an letting them pass! Another thing, CA should have notified Kenyans that this was in the works, and should have been transparent enough to publish its capabilities. It did not. So, the force with which the DG is going about this only reeks of an (quiet) executive order that he and his board can't brush off, especially when it's tagged with 'national security' label. This device will be used to spy on people, block their devices, block mobile communications the way M7 and others did. Let's sit and watch, but I still hope Omtatah and the Judiciary will save Kenyans. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft." _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/anderson.levi%40gmail.... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
On 18 February 2017 at 12:56, Wambua, Christopher <Wambua@ca.go.ke> wrote:
Listers,
CA has no interested in snooping on your private communication. What would we gain from that! We are not a law enforcement agency in the strict sense of the word.
The system is a central database containing models of all type approved (by CA) and genuine mobile devices (GSMA), and handsets imported legally into the Country (KRA) and a blacklist of stolen handsets.
I doubt CA has a way of having a database of all handsets imported legally into the country. That can only be achieved by asking all importers to avail each box for scanning (to get the IMEI) which I doubt happens, or does it? There are also Kenyans who travel, buy a phone out there and come with it for personal use. There are also foreigners who come with their phones and end up selling to someone as 2nd hand (or just pass me down). CA cannot pretend to have a database of these. I have IMEIs of 4 phones which have been stolen from me, reported to the Police, but never recovered. Does it mean that now CA's system will help recover my stolen handsets? How?? Oh, and I hasten to ask: There are millions of CDMA handsets/headsets junk lying around in KE, whose IMEIs can be used on other handsets by those River Road engineers who write IMEIs to handsets. How is CA able to deal with this? Will CA be giving regular (weekly/monthly) reports of the millions of "fake" devices detected by this system and hence blocked, or this is a responsibility handed down to the MNOs who perhaps will be the ones receiving the complaints from those affected? In the overall, how does this system benefit Wanjiku?? Remember Wanjiku was not consulted when this system idea was conceived, planned and implemented so hajui! We do accept that CA is a law-abiding Independent entity, but there are other CAs allover Africa who have proven that that is not usually the case! The truth, like pregnancy, is not easy to hide. Ultimately it comes out :-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft."
Washington KRA will be entering EMEI data of all imported devices at customs into the system at the point of entry. Regarding Kenyans who buy phones abroad, there will be no problem as long as the EMEIs of the handsets are in the GSMA whitelist. On stolen phones, any phone reported as stolen will be denied service on all the networks. Sent from my iPhone On 18 Feb 2017, at 13:11, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com<mailto:odhiambo@gmail.com>> wrote: On 18 February 2017 at 12:56, Wambua, Christopher <Wambua@ca.go.ke<mailto:Wambua@ca.go.ke>> wrote: Listers, CA has no interested in snooping on your private communication. What would we gain from that! We are not a law enforcement agency in the strict sense of the word. The system is a central database containing models of all type approved (by CA) and genuine mobile devices (GSMA), and handsets imported legally into the Country (KRA) and a blacklist of stolen handsets. I doubt CA has a way of having a database of all handsets imported legally into the country. That can only be achieved by asking all importers to avail each box for scanning (to get the IMEI) which I doubt happens, or does it? There are also Kenyans who travel, buy a phone out there and come with it for personal use. There are also foreigners who come with their phones and end up selling to someone as 2nd hand (or just pass me down). CA cannot pretend to have a database of these. I have IMEIs of 4 phones which have been stolen from me, reported to the Police, but never recovered. Does it mean that now CA's system will help recover my stolen handsets? How?? Oh, and I hasten to ask: There are millions of CDMA handsets/headsets junk lying around in KE, whose IMEIs can be used on other handsets by those River Road engineers who write IMEIs to handsets. How is CA able to deal with this? Will CA be giving regular (weekly/monthly) reports of the millions of "fake" devices detected by this system and hence blocked, or this is a responsibility handed down to the MNOs who perhaps will be the ones receiving the complaints from those affected? In the overall, how does this system benefit Wanjiku?? Remember Wanjiku was not consulted when this system idea was conceived, planned and implemented so hajui! We do accept that CA is a law-abiding Independent entity, but there are other CAs allover Africa who have proven that that is not usually the case! The truth, like pregnancy, is not easy to hide. Ultimately it comes out :-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft."
Hi Christopher, Before this DMS, the MNOs had the capacity to block any phones reported as stolen. However, this seems to have only been left to Safaricom (not sure they still blocked them, because these days one can only recover their phones if they follow the cops 'closely') as Airtel seems to be uncertain (last time I checked they were not easy to deal with). My main point though is that the MNOs already had a similar system as CA is trying to push down their throat (interpreting the DGs words!) That then can only mean one thing: The system CA is pushing is different, has got much more features, and it's these features that are very important now - and those features are the ones we're (Wanjiku and me) raising our voices about. Those features are likely to be abused by KRA, Police, NIS (aka govt). The fact that CA is independent is neither here nor there when it comes to a time when 'security' is cited from certain quarters. On 18 February 2017 at 13:32, Wambua, Christopher <Wambua@ca.go.ke> wrote:
Washington
KRA will be entering EMEI data of all imported devices at customs into the system at the point of entry.
Regarding Kenyans who buy phones abroad, there will be no problem as long as the EMEIs of the handsets are in the GSMA whitelist.
On stolen phones, any phone reported as stolen will be denied service on all the networks.
Sent from my iPhone
On 18 Feb 2017, at 13:11, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On 18 February 2017 at 12:56, Wambua, Christopher <Wambua@ca.go.ke> wrote:
Listers,
CA has no interested in snooping on your private communication. What would we gain from that! We are not a law enforcement agency in the strict sense of the word.
The system is a central database containing models of all type approved (by CA) and genuine mobile devices (GSMA), and handsets imported legally into the Country (KRA) and a blacklist of stolen handsets.
I doubt CA has a way of having a database of all handsets imported legally into the country. That can only be achieved by asking all importers to avail each box for scanning (to get the IMEI) which I doubt happens, or does it?
There are also Kenyans who travel, buy a phone out there and come with it for personal use. There are also foreigners who come with their phones and end up selling to someone as 2nd hand (or just pass me down). CA cannot pretend to have a database of these.
I have IMEIs of 4 phones which have been stolen from me, reported to the Police, but never recovered. Does it mean that now CA's system will help recover my stolen handsets? How??
Oh, and I hasten to ask: There are millions of CDMA handsets/headsets junk lying around in KE, whose IMEIs can be used on other handsets by those River Road engineers who write IMEIs to handsets. How is CA able to deal with this?
Will CA be giving regular (weekly/monthly) reports of the millions of "fake" devices detected by this system and hence blocked, or this is a responsibility handed down to the MNOs who perhaps will be the ones receiving the complaints from those affected?
In the overall, how does this system benefit Wanjiku?? Remember Wanjiku was not consulted when this system idea was conceived, planned and implemented so hajui!
We do accept that CA is a law-abiding Independent entity, but there are other CAs allover Africa who have proven that that is not usually the case!
The truth, like pregnancy, is not easy to hide. Ultimately it comes out :-)
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft."
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft."
Wambua, It's not that I don't trust the CA, I don't trust that these devices will not be misused to block phones in certain regions particularly as the elections roll around. These devices could be used by entities that aren't CA. I'd like some assurances that this won't happen. One way to do this would be go further in explaining how these devices will be installed, used, who has power to edit this whitelist, how it'll be secured and how quickly it can be altered. On 18 Feb 2017 12:59, "Wambua, Christopher via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers,
CA has no interested in snooping on your private communication. What would we gain from that! We are not a law enforcement agency in the strict sense of the word.
The system is a central database containing models of all type approved (by CA) and genuine mobile devices (GSMA), and handsets imported legally into the Country (KRA) and a blacklist of stolen handsets.
The mobile networks will query this database before providing service in microseconds. Phones and devices that do not meet the cut will be denied service.
In brief that's how the system works.
In respect to privacy, CA has imposed a licence condition on all service providers to respect the privacy of users as one of the mechanisms of promoting consumer welfare. Listers should therefore rest assured that privacy of services users at the heart of our regulatory work.
Sent from my iPhone
On 18 Feb 2017, at 11:48, Anderson Levi <anderson.levi@gmail.com> wrote:
You can't fool all of the people all of the time.
On 18 Feb 2017 11:10, "Odhiambo Washington via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
On 17 February 2017 at 14:31, Alwala, Rachel via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hello Listers.
Please see the statement from CA regarding the Device Management System that is under deployment. We hope listers shall objectively engage and seek to understand what the regulator is doing in the interest of the public. Media reports on this were misleading, but be rest assured we shall continue to engage all stakeholders so that they can be in full picture.
Regards,
Rachel
Okiya Omtata will save us from this CA mischief.
It's mischief whichever way you look at it.
See, between blacklisting unregistered numbers used on the networks and 'counterfeit' devices, which one is more urgent? Counterfeit devices use SIM cards, but it's the SIM cards that can be registered to citizens and be traced. Why not just ask the MNOs to effect the regulation barring unregistered SIM cards and let Kenyans be? Counterfeits come in through the borders (Port, Airports) where KRA and Police are complicit in 'eating' an letting them pass!
Another thing, CA should have notified Kenyans that this was in the works, and should have been transparent enough to publish its capabilities. It did not. So, the force with which the DG is going about this only reeks of an (quiet) executive order that he and his board can't brush off, especially when it's tagged with 'national security' label.
This device will be used to spy on people, block their devices, block mobile communications the way M7 and others did. Let's sit and watch, but I still hope Omtatah and the Judiciary will save Kenyans.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft."
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Sidney The system has no capacity to snoop. Sent from my iPhone On 18 Feb 2017, at 13:58, Sidney Ochieng <sidney.ochieng@gmail.com<mailto:sidney.ochieng@gmail.com>> wrote: Wambua, It's not that I don't trust the CA, I don't trust that these devices will not be misused to block phones in certain regions particularly as the elections roll around. These devices could be used by entities that aren't CA. I'd like some assurances that this won't happen. One way to do this would be go further in explaining how these devices will be installed, used, who has power to edit this whitelist, how it'll be secured and how quickly it can be altered. On 18 Feb 2017 12:59, "Wambua, Christopher via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Listers, CA has no interested in snooping on your private communication. What would we gain from that! We are not a law enforcement agency in the strict sense of the word. The system is a central database containing models of all type approved (by CA) and genuine mobile devices (GSMA), and handsets imported legally into the Country (KRA) and a blacklist of stolen handsets. The mobile networks will query this database before providing service in microseconds. Phones and devices that do not meet the cut will be denied service. In brief that's how the system works. In respect to privacy, CA has imposed a licence condition on all service providers to respect the privacy of users as one of the mechanisms of promoting consumer welfare. Listers should therefore rest assured that privacy of services users at the heart of our regulatory work. Sent from my iPhone On 18 Feb 2017, at 11:48, Anderson Levi <anderson.levi@gmail.com<mailto:anderson.levi@gmail.com>> wrote: You can't fool all of the people all of the time. On 18 Feb 2017 11:10, "Odhiambo Washington via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: On 17 February 2017 at 14:31, Alwala, Rachel via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Hello Listers. Please see the statement from CA regarding the Device Management System that is under deployment. We hope listers shall objectively engage and seek to understand what the regulator is doing in the interest of the public. Media reports on this were misleading, but be rest assured we shall continue to engage all stakeholders so that they can be in full picture. Regards, Rachel Okiya Omtata will save us from this CA mischief. It's mischief whichever way you look at it. See, between blacklisting unregistered numbers used on the networks and 'counterfeit' devices, which one is more urgent? Counterfeit devices use SIM cards, but it's the SIM cards that can be registered to citizens and be traced. Why not just ask the MNOs to effect the regulation barring unregistered SIM cards and let Kenyans be? Counterfeits come in through the borders (Port, Airports) where KRA and Police are complicit in 'eating' an letting them pass! Another thing, CA should have notified Kenyans that this was in the works, and should have been transparent enough to publish its capabilities. It did not. So, the force with which the DG is going about this only reeks of an (quiet) executive order that he and his board can't brush off, especially when it's tagged with 'national security' label. This device will be used to spy on people, block their devices, block mobile communications the way M7 and others did. Let's sit and watch, but I still hope Omtatah and the Judiciary will save Kenyans. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft." _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/anderson.levi%40gmail.... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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Wambua Can you dispel the rumors that there are CID officers stationed at CA HQ on Waiyaki Way? And if there are CID officers stationed there then in the current scenario of mistrust maybe you could spell to us their mandate there? Ali Hussein Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad
On 18 Feb 2017, at 2:20 PM, Wambua, Christopher via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Sidney
The system has no capacity to snoop.
Sent from my iPhone
On 18 Feb 2017, at 13:58, Sidney Ochieng <sidney.ochieng@gmail.com> wrote:
Wambua, It's not that I don't trust the CA, I don't trust that these devices will not be misused to block phones in certain regions particularly as the elections roll around. These devices could be used by entities that aren't CA. I'd like some assurances that this won't happen. One way to do this would be go further in explaining how these devices will be installed, used, who has power to edit this whitelist, how it'll be secured and how quickly it can be altered.
On 18 Feb 2017 12:59, "Wambua, Christopher via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Listers,
CA has no interested in snooping on your private communication. What would we gain from that! We are not a law enforcement agency in the strict sense of the word.
The system is a central database containing models of all type approved (by CA) and genuine mobile devices (GSMA), and handsets imported legally into the Country (KRA) and a blacklist of stolen handsets.
The mobile networks will query this database before providing service in microseconds. Phones and devices that do not meet the cut will be denied service.
In brief that's how the system works.
In respect to privacy, CA has imposed a licence condition on all service providers to respect the privacy of users as one of the mechanisms of promoting consumer welfare. Listers should therefore rest assured that privacy of services users at the heart of our regulatory work.
Sent from my iPhone
On 18 Feb 2017, at 11:48, Anderson Levi <anderson.levi@gmail.com> wrote:
You can't fool all of the people all of the time.
On 18 Feb 2017 11:10, "Odhiambo Washington via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
On 17 February 2017 at 14:31, Alwala, Rachel via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Hello Listers.
Please see the statement from CA regarding the Device Management System that is under deployment. We hope listers shall objectively engage and seek to understand what the regulator is doing in the interest of the public. Media reports on this were misleading, but be rest assured we shall continue to engage all stakeholders so that they can be in full picture.
Regards,
Rachel
Okiya Omtata will save us from this CA mischief.
It's mischief whichever way you look at it.
See, between blacklisting unregistered numbers used on the networks and 'counterfeit' devices, which one is more urgent? Counterfeit devices use SIM cards, but it's the SIM cards that can be registered to citizens and be traced. Why not just ask the MNOs to effect the regulation barring unregistered SIM cards and let Kenyans be? Counterfeits come in through the borders (Port, Airports) where KRA and Police are complicit in 'eating' an letting them pass!
Another thing, CA should have notified Kenyans that this was in the works, and should have been transparent enough to publish its capabilities. It did not. So, the force with which the DG is going about this only reeks of an (quiet) executive order that he and his board can't brush off, especially when it's tagged with 'national security' label.
This device will be used to spy on people, block their devices, block mobile communications the way M7 and others did. Let's sit and watch, but I still hope Omtatah and the Judiciary will save Kenyans.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft."
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Sidney, Be assured that the system will not be misused. CA will have in and out access to the DMS. Nobody will have powers to edit the whitelist. As we indicated earlier, the whitelist will be created from three sources: * New handsets that have been imported into Kenya and declared to KRA * New handsets that have been type approved by CA * IMEI list from GSMA IMEIs of handsets that have met these criteria, will be captured on the DMS. When the handset is purchased and switched on, the DMS will transfer the information or data to the whitelist. Any IMEI in the whitelist cannot be edited out. CA will use the out access for statistical purposes only. I hope this clears the air on this matter. Regards Wambua From: Sidney Ochieng <sidney.ochieng@gmail.com<mailto:sidney.ochieng@gmail.com>> Date: Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 1:59 PM To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Cc: Christoper Wambua <wambua@ca.go.ke<mailto:wambua@ca.go.ke>>, "CPA@ca.go.ke<mailto:CPA@ca.go.ke>" <CPA@ca.go.ke<mailto:CPA@ca.go.ke>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Press Statement By CA on DMS - rev 1.doc Wambua, It's not that I don't trust the CA, I don't trust that these devices will not be misused to block phones in certain regions particularly as the elections roll around. These devices could be used by entities that aren't CA. I'd like some assurances that this won't happen. One way to do this would be go further in explaining how these devices will be installed, used, who has power to edit this whitelist, how it'll be secured and how quickly it can be altered. On 18 Feb 2017 12:59, "Wambua, Christopher via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Listers, CA has no interested in snooping on your private communication. What would we gain from that! We are not a law enforcement agency in the strict sense of the word. The system is a central database containing models of all type approved (by CA) and genuine mobile devices (GSMA), and handsets imported legally into the Country (KRA) and a blacklist of stolen handsets. The mobile networks will query this database before providing service in microseconds. Phones and devices that do not meet the cut will be denied service. In brief that's how the system works. In respect to privacy, CA has imposed a licence condition on all service providers to respect the privacy of users as one of the mechanisms of promoting consumer welfare. Listers should therefore rest assured that privacy of services users at the heart of our regulatory work. Sent from my iPhone On 18 Feb 2017, at 11:48, Anderson Levi <anderson.levi@gmail.com<mailto:anderson.levi@gmail.com>> wrote: You can't fool all of the people all of the time. On 18 Feb 2017 11:10, "Odhiambo Washington via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: On 17 February 2017 at 14:31, Alwala, Rachel via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Hello Listers. Please see the statement from CA regarding the Device Management System that is under deployment. We hope listers shall objectively engage and seek to understand what the regulator is doing in the interest of the public. Media reports on this were misleading, but be rest assured we shall continue to engage all stakeholders so that they can be in full picture. Regards, Rachel Okiya Omtata will save us from this CA mischief. It's mischief whichever way you look at it. See, between blacklisting unregistered numbers used on the networks and 'counterfeit' devices, which one is more urgent? Counterfeit devices use SIM cards, but it's the SIM cards that can be registered to citizens and be traced. Why not just ask the MNOs to effect the regulation barring unregistered SIM cards and let Kenyans be? Counterfeits come in through the borders (Port, Airports) where KRA and Police are complicit in 'eating' an letting them pass! Another thing, CA should have notified Kenyans that this was in the works, and should have been transparent enough to publish its capabilities. It did not. So, the force with which the DG is going about this only reeks of an (quiet) executive order that he and his board can't brush off, especially when it's tagged with 'national security' label. This device will be used to spy on people, block their devices, block mobile communications the way M7 and others did. Let's sit and watch, but I still hope Omtatah and the Judiciary will save Kenyans. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft." _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/anderson.levi%40gmail.... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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Excuse the ignorance - because I don't know much about the tech - so if these are stupid questions feel free to educate me What happens to foreigners and expats who come into the country with roaming phones to do business as regards to this system? What happens to people who move here to work and have phones they have brought from outside that they are now using on airtel or safaricom networks? (and I'm not talking about dodgy phones, I'm talking about genuine phones made by Samsung, apple, Huawei, etc) After all - the sim cards are registered to a particular person - so if they choose to use that sim card in a legitimate phone that they legitimately acquired before they arrived - why shouldn't they be able to? Andrew From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+andrew.alston=liquidtelecom.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher via kictanet Sent: 18 February 2017 17:46 To: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com> Cc: Wambua, Christopher <Wambua@ca.go.ke>; CPA <CPA@ca.go.ke>; Karungu, P J <karungu@ca.go.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Press Statement By CA on DMS - rev 1.doc Importance: High Sidney, Be assured that the system will not be misused. CA will have in and out access to the DMS. Nobody will have powers to edit the whitelist. As we indicated earlier, the whitelist will be created from three sources: * New handsets that have been imported into Kenya and declared to KRA * New handsets that have been type approved by CA * IMEI list from GSMA IMEIs of handsets that have met these criteria, will be captured on the DMS. When the handset is purchased and switched on, the DMS will transfer the information or data to the whitelist. Any IMEI in the whitelist cannot be edited out. CA will use the out access for statistical purposes only. I hope this clears the air on this matter. Regards Wambua From: Sidney Ochieng <sidney.ochieng@gmail.com<mailto:sidney.ochieng@gmail.com>> Date: Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 1:59 PM To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Cc: Christoper Wambua <wambua@ca.go.ke<mailto:wambua@ca.go.ke>>, "CPA@ca.go.ke<mailto:CPA@ca.go.ke>" <CPA@ca.go.ke<mailto:CPA@ca.go.ke>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Press Statement By CA on DMS - rev 1.doc Wambua, It's not that I don't trust the CA, I don't trust that these devices will not be misused to block phones in certain regions particularly as the elections roll around. These devices could be used by entities that aren't CA. I'd like some assurances that this won't happen. One way to do this would be go further in explaining how these devices will be installed, used, who has power to edit this whitelist, how it'll be secured and how quickly it can be altered. On 18 Feb 2017 12:59, "Wambua, Christopher via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Listers, CA has no interested in snooping on your private communication. What would we gain from that! We are not a law enforcement agency in the strict sense of the word. The system is a central database containing models of all type approved (by CA) and genuine mobile devices (GSMA), and handsets imported legally into the Country (KRA) and a blacklist of stolen handsets. The mobile networks will query this database before providing service in microseconds. Phones and devices that do not meet the cut will be denied service. In brief that's how the system works. In respect to privacy, CA has imposed a licence condition on all service providers to respect the privacy of users as one of the mechanisms of promoting consumer welfare. Listers should therefore rest assured that privacy of services users at the heart of our regulatory work. Sent from my iPhone On 18 Feb 2017, at 11:48, Anderson Levi <anderson.levi@gmail.com<mailto:anderson.levi@gmail.com>> wrote: You can't fool all of the people all of the time. On 18 Feb 2017 11:10, "Odhiambo Washington via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: On 17 February 2017 at 14:31, Alwala, Rachel via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Hello Listers. Please see the statement from CA regarding the Device Management System that is under deployment. We hope listers shall objectively engage and seek to understand what the regulator is doing in the interest of the public. Media reports on this were misleading, but be rest assured we shall continue to engage all stakeholders so that they can be in full picture. Regards, Rachel Okiya Omtata will save us from this CA mischief. It's mischief whichever way you look at it. See, between blacklisting unregistered numbers used on the networks and 'counterfeit' devices, which one is more urgent? Counterfeit devices use SIM cards, but it's the SIM cards that can be registered to citizens and be traced. Why not just ask the MNOs to effect the regulation barring unregistered SIM cards and let Kenyans be? Counterfeits come in through the borders (Port, Airports) where KRA and Police are complicit in 'eating' an letting them pass! Another thing, CA should have notified Kenyans that this was in the works, and should have been transparent enough to publish its capabilities. It did not. So, the force with which the DG is going about this only reeks of an (quiet) executive order that he and his board can't brush off, especially when it's tagged with 'national security' label. This device will be used to spy on people, block their devices, block mobile communications the way M7 and others did. Let's sit and watch, but I still hope Omtatah and the Judiciary will save Kenyans. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft." _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/anderson.levi%40gmail.... 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Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu -
Sidney Ochieng -
Wambua, Christopher