Wambua

Can you dispel the rumors that there are CID officers stationed at CA HQ on Waiyaki Way? 

And if there are CID officers stationed there then in the current scenario of mistrust maybe you could spell to us their mandate there?  

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On 18 Feb 2017, at 2:20 PM, Wambua, Christopher via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Sidney

The system has no capacity to snoop. 

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On 18 Feb 2017, at 13:58, Sidney Ochieng <sidney.ochieng@gmail.com> wrote:

Wambua, 
It's not that I don't trust the CA, I  don't trust that these devices will not be misused to block phones in certain regions particularly as the elections roll around.
These devices could be used by entities that aren't CA. 
I'd like some assurances that this won't happen. One way to do this would be go further in explaining how these devices will be installed, used, who has power to edit this whitelist, how it'll be secured and how quickly it can be altered. 


On 18 Feb 2017 12:59, "Wambua, Christopher via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers,

CA has no interested in snooping on your private communication. What would we gain from that!  We are not a law enforcement agency in the strict sense of the word. 

The system is a central database containing models of all type approved  (by CA) and genuine mobile devices (GSMA), and handsets imported legally into the Country (KRA) and a blacklist of stolen handsets.

The mobile networks will query this database before providing service in microseconds. Phones and devices  that do not meet the cut will be denied service. 

In brief that's how the system works. 

In respect to privacy, CA has imposed a licence condition on all service providers to respect the privacy of users as one of the mechanisms of promoting consumer welfare. Listers should therefore rest assured that privacy of services users at the heart of our regulatory work.

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On 18 Feb 2017, at 11:48, Anderson Levi <anderson.levi@gmail.com> wrote:

You can't fool all of the people all of the time.


On 18 Feb 2017 11:10, "Odhiambo Washington via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:


On 17 February 2017 at 14:31, Alwala, Rachel via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hello Listers.

Please see the statement from CA regarding the Device Management System that is under deployment. We hope listers shall objectively engage and seek to understand what the regulator is doing in the interest of the public. Media reports on this were misleading, but be rest assured we shall continue to engage all stakeholders so that they can be in full picture.

Regards,

Rachel

Okiya Omtata will save us from this CA mischief.

It's mischief whichever way you look at it.

See, between blacklisting unregistered numbers used on the networks and 'counterfeit' devices, which one is more urgent? Counterfeit devices use SIM cards, but it's the SIM cards that can be registered to citizens and be traced. Why not just ask the MNOs to effect the regulation barring unregistered SIM cards and let Kenyans be? Counterfeits come in through the borders (Port, Airports) where KRA and Police are complicit in 'eating' an letting them pass!

Another thing, CA should have notified Kenyans that this was in the works, and should have been transparent enough to publish its capabilities. It did not. So, the force with which the DG is going about this only reeks of an (quiet) executive order that he and his board can't brush off, especially when it's tagged with 'national security' label.

This device will be used to spy on people, block their devices, block mobile communications the way M7 and others did. Let's sit and watch, but I still hope Omtatah and the Judiciary will save Kenyans.


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