Mheshimiwa Thanks for your personal attention on this matter. My two cents:- 1. First to answer your two issues. a) *T**hat government jobs are so temporary especially for a certain cadre of peopl*e - For as long as one is in Government employment everything that person does on behalf of the people of Kenya remains the property of the people of Kenya. I think the confusion starts when government employees mix personal business with government business. There's a possibility here that there is a requirement for some sensitivity training. We do take a lot for granted but we shouldn't. Bottomline. ALL OFFICIAL BUSINESS SHOULD BE DONE OFFICIALLY. ON GOVT COMMUNICATION CHANNELS. Which means official .go.ke emails. b) *Tech maintenance and support is so bad* - I will not be surprised if this is the case. However, this should not be an excuse for not using official Govt Email. To be honest, Mheshimiwa, its super embarrassing for a country that is kicking ass (forgive the slang) in the technology space worldwide to have a conversation with colleagues in say Nigeria, and one sentence about Government Ministers using gmail/yahoo/hotmail deflates the conversation. Isn't the ICT Authority supposed to sort of act as Government CIO (Chief Information Officer). May be its time for a substantive Government Chief Information Officer responsible for all ICT issues in Government? including Data Centres, ICT Strategy etc? Do we need to revisit ICTA's mandate? 2. In today's world, we cannot afford sensitive government documents all over the world wide web on servers that we have zero control of. My sense is that we need to have some basic **musts** that need to be engrained in government employees. This could actually be an act of parliament on how govt operates ICT Infrastructure for its day to day operations. Here's an example of how the U.K Government deals with this email issue <chrome-extension://ohfgljdgelakfkefopgklcohadegdpjf/https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/207131/Private_Email_guidance.pdf> . 3. Lastly Mheshimiwa, this issue of government email use has been discussed for years on this list and others. I don't honestly think (with all due respect to all responsible) that it has been taken seriously enough. Time to take it a notch higher. Could it possibly be something that the Senate ICT Committee can take up and see it to its logical conclusion? I mean if the National Government is in such a rut when it comes to basic email communication can you imagine what is happening in the counties? I think that should be enough to keep you busy on this issue. :-) *Ali Hussein* Digital Transformation Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 11:33 PM Abshiro Halake via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Ali, Twahir, team,

Great idea to enlighten the government and its agencies on this. The ICT Ministry should actually take the lead. We could put a parliamentary question to the ICT Ministry as to why the government continues to use personal emails. That being said, I was once told that there are two reasons why this is the case - 1. that government jobs are so temporary especially for certain cadre of people and 2. tech maintenance and support is so bad. Not sure if these are just excuses but it may be worth it to still put the questions. Can someone send me a few pointers to include in the question/statement? Perhaps why it is important to change this and also reassurance on security etc.....

Thanks and kind regards,

Sen. Abshiro

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 8:26 PM Twahir Hussein Kassim via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

On these lines, the central government, county governments, parastatals, constituencies etc need to take the lead.

As Ali earlier in the week shared, it's very unfortunate to see government department letterheads with a PERSONAL yahoo / gmail / hotmail address. Is it that the government is unable to host a mail server or procure a cloud service? Bottom line again you will note is the ignorance towards basic IT security.

KENIC should seek to enlighten the powers that be!

My 2 cents!

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020, 12:55 PM Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

Team KeNIC

As we celebrate the 100k milestone we need to take cognisant of the issues raised in the last AGM. We still await a comprehensive follow-through by KeNIC. I suspect with better corporate governance the next milestone of 100k names will be much easier to reach.

Regards

*Ali Hussein*

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On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 11:21 PM Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

Listers,

Finally we have over 100,000 <http://registry.kenic.or.ke/statistics.jsp> .Ke names, what a milestone. Next should be the 1 Million Mark.

Kudos to the KeNIC team.

Regards

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Senator, With due respect to matters infront of the senate, I again reiterate that matters IT are not given the import they deserve. We only need to reflect on the fracas around the hosting of the election servers to realise how important ICT personnel and infrastructure are to this government and any other organisation that needs to prosper. I can relate to the guy being fired for not getting an email that was from a bwana kubwa. Again, boils down to ICT being relegated to junior with no voice. If proper infrastructure and training is put in place, this would be a thing of the past. Senator, you need to SHOUT to get this HEARD like in the next seating; this is how important ICT should be looked at. On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 2:36 PM Abshiro Halake via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Thanks very much Ali, these are great pointers. And yes Senate ICT committee will take it up. Will it be concluded in the 12th parliament's term? Please don't hold me to it but we shall try our very best.

With regards to the excuse that tech support is so bad that government employees resort to personal mail, they actually have a point there. A tale is told of employees fired becuase they were not responsive yet the mail to which the urgent request from a "very important person" went was down for days. I have heard that employees resorting to personal mail is out of desperation and willingness to serve in the face of non-existent infrastructure and support. Either way, we must deal with this. This is definitely noted and we will take it up.

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020, 08:55 Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:

...

Mheshimiwa

Thanks for your personal attention on this matter. My two cents:-

1. First to answer your two issues.

a) *T**hat government jobs are so temporary especially for a certain cadre of peopl*e - For as long as one is in Government employment everything that person does on behalf of the people of Kenya remains the property of the people of Kenya. I think the confusion starts when government employees mix personal business with government business. There's a possibility here that there is a requirement for some sensitivity training. We do take a lot for granted but we shouldn't. Bottomline. ALL OFFICIAL BUSINESS SHOULD BE DONE OFFICIALLY. ON GOVT COMMUNICATION CHANNELS. Which means official .go.ke emails. b) *Tech maintenance and support is so bad* - I will not be surprised if this is the case. However, this should not be an excuse for not using official Govt Email. To be honest, Mheshimiwa, its super embarrassing for a country that is kicking ass (forgive the slang) in the technology space worldwide to have a conversation with colleagues in say Nigeria, and one sentence about Government Ministers using gmail/yahoo/hotmail deflates the conversation. Isn't the ICT Authority supposed to sort of act as Government CIO (Chief Information Officer). May be its time for a substantive Government Chief Information Officer responsible for all ICT issues in Government? including Data Centres, ICT Strategy etc? Do we need to revisit ICTA's mandate?

2. In today's world, we cannot afford sensitive government documents all over the world wide web on servers that we have zero control of. My sense is that we need to have some basic **musts** that need to be engrained in government employees. This could actually be an act of parliament on how govt operates ICT Infrastructure for its day to day operations. Here's an example of how the U.K Government deals with this email issue.

3. Lastly Mheshimiwa, this issue of government email use has been discussed for years on this list and others. I don't honestly think (with all due respect to all responsible) that it has been taken seriously enough. Time to take it a notch higher. Could it possibly be something that the Senate ICT Committee can take up and see it to its logical conclusion? I mean if the National Government is in such a rut when it comes to basic email communication can you imagine what is happening in the counties?

I think that should be enough to keep you busy on this issue. :-)

*Ali Hussein*

Digital Transformation

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On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 11:33 PM Abshiro Halake via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

Ali, Twahir, team,

Great idea to enlighten the government and its agencies on this. The ICT Ministry should actually take the lead. We could put a parliamentary question to the ICT Ministry as to why the government continues to use personal emails. That being said, I was once told that there are two reasons why this is the case - 1. that government jobs are so temporary especially for certain cadre of people and 2. tech maintenance and support is so bad. Not sure if these are just excuses but it may be worth it to still put the questions. Can someone send me a few pointers to include in the question/statement? Perhaps why it is important to change this and also reassurance on security etc.....

Thanks and kind regards,

Sen. Abshiro

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 8:26 PM Twahir Hussein Kassim via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

On these lines, the central government, county governments, parastatals, constituencies etc need to take the lead.

As Ali earlier in the week shared, it's very unfortunate to see government department letterheads with a PERSONAL yahoo / gmail / hotmail address. Is it that the government is unable to host a mail server or procure a cloud service? Bottom line again you will note is the ignorance towards basic IT security.

KENIC should seek to enlighten the powers that be!

My 2 cents!

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020, 12:55 PM Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

Team KeNIC

As we celebrate the 100k milestone we need to take cognisant of the issues raised in the last AGM. We still await a comprehensive follow-through by KeNIC. I suspect with better corporate governance the next milestone of 100k names will be much easier to reach.

Regards

*Ali Hussein*

Tel: +254 713 601113

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Skype: abu-jomo

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On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 11:21 PM Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

Listers,

Finally we have over 100,000 <http://registry.kenic.or.ke/statistics.jsp> .Ke names, what a milestone. Next should be the 1 Million Mark.

Kudos to the KeNIC team.

Regards

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Senator, We cannot over emphasise what Ali has so ably jotted down. To expound on this further... a) *T**hat government jobs are so temporary especially for a certain cadre of peopl*e - the job might be temporary but the government isn't whatever is done within the government should remain. Having said that, I would also say that that is not a valid excuse. Take an example of a CeC, a Chief Officer or Director in a county government using a personal mail for official communications. The position they hold might be politically connected and be replaced immediately there is a change of guard, however whatever they touch whilst in that position has a lot of impact on the ground. b) *Tech maintenance and support is so bad* - agreed and I go back to point (a) above; seriously this should not even be an argument. What comes to light is the utter disregard for ICT to regard it as the OLDEN day copy typist who would type and file the copy which might never be sourced for again. What we forget is that whatever is saved online now can be retrieved in a nano-second and were it to be released to the public might create a pandora effect. For as long as we don't treat IT seriously tech-support would be left to interns or anyone who can hold a screwdriver! I would equate tech support to the BANK VAULT KEY HOLDER, would the key be left to an intern? *Remedy* Mandatory ICT Literacy which should include a session on ICT Security and Cyber Crime. Kwa hayo machache... :-) asanteni On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 8:58 AM Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Mheshimiwa

Thanks for your personal attention on this matter. My two cents:-

1. First to answer your two issues.

a) *T**hat government jobs are so temporary especially for a certain cadre of peopl*e - For as long as one is in Government employment everything that person does on behalf of the people of Kenya remains the property of the people of Kenya. I think the confusion starts when government employees mix personal business with government business. There's a possibility here that there is a requirement for some sensitivity training. We do take a lot for granted but we shouldn't. Bottomline. ALL OFFICIAL BUSINESS SHOULD BE DONE OFFICIALLY. ON GOVT COMMUNICATION CHANNELS. Which means official .go.ke emails. b) *Tech maintenance and support is so bad* - I will not be surprised if this is the case. However, this should not be an excuse for not using official Govt Email. To be honest, Mheshimiwa, its super embarrassing for a country that is kicking ass (forgive the slang) in the technology space worldwide to have a conversation with colleagues in say Nigeria, and one sentence about Government Ministers using gmail/yahoo/hotmail deflates the conversation. Isn't the ICT Authority supposed to sort of act as Government CIO (Chief Information Officer). May be its time for a substantive Government Chief Information Officer responsible for all ICT issues in Government? including Data Centres, ICT Strategy etc? Do we need to revisit ICTA's mandate?

2. In today's world, we cannot afford sensitive government documents all over the world wide web on servers that we have zero control of. My sense is that we need to have some basic **musts** that need to be engrained in government employees. This could actually be an act of parliament on how govt operates ICT Infrastructure for its day to day operations. Here's an example of how the U.K Government deals with this email issue.

3. Lastly Mheshimiwa, this issue of government email use has been discussed for years on this list and others. I don't honestly think (with all due respect to all responsible) that it has been taken seriously enough. Time to take it a notch higher. Could it possibly be something that the Senate ICT Committee can take up and see it to its logical conclusion? I mean if the National Government is in such a rut when it comes to basic email communication can you imagine what is happening in the counties?

I think that should be enough to keep you busy on this issue. :-)

*Ali Hussein*

Digital Transformation

Tel: +254 713 601113

Twitter: @AliHKassim

Skype: abu-jomo

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On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 11:33 PM Abshiro Halake via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

Ali, Twahir, team,

Great idea to enlighten the government and its agencies on this. The ICT Ministry should actually take the lead. We could put a parliamentary question to the ICT Ministry as to why the government continues to use personal emails. That being said, I was once told that there are two reasons why this is the case - 1. that government jobs are so temporary especially for certain cadre of people and 2. tech maintenance and support is so bad. Not sure if these are just excuses but it may be worth it to still put the questions. Can someone send me a few pointers to include in the question/statement? Perhaps why it is important to change this and also reassurance on security etc.....

Thanks and kind regards,

Sen. Abshiro

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 8:26 PM Twahir Hussein Kassim via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

On these lines, the central government, county governments, parastatals, constituencies etc need to take the lead.

As Ali earlier in the week shared, it's very unfortunate to see government department letterheads with a PERSONAL yahoo / gmail / hotmail address. Is it that the government is unable to host a mail server or procure a cloud service? Bottom line again you will note is the ignorance towards basic IT security.

KENIC should seek to enlighten the powers that be!

My 2 cents!

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020, 12:55 PM Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

Team KeNIC

As we celebrate the 100k milestone we need to take cognisant of the issues raised in the last AGM. We still await a comprehensive follow-through by KeNIC. I suspect with better corporate governance the next milestone of 100k names will be much easier to reach.

Regards

*Ali Hussein*

Tel: +254 713 601113

Twitter: @AliHKassim

Skype: abu-jomo

LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>

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On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 11:21 PM Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

Listers,

Finally we have over 100,000 <http://registry.kenic.or.ke/statistics.jsp> .Ke names, what a milestone. Next should be the 1 Million Mark.

Kudos to the KeNIC team.

Regards

-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A

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Abshiro, Look at NMS.. it reveals how things work when public officers are not fighting (stealing from) the civilized public When insiders fight the public (society/state) there are blockages (as you have well described it). Public officers slow things down to squeeze (extort) the public for illegal fees (to buy/build their own commercial properties), public service delivery becomes almost non existent. Kenyans were pushing for fibre in the mid 90' but KPTC had been looted. Fibre arrived in 2010. There are patriots on this list who could brief you on this saga. https://www.kictanet.or.ke/bitange-to-head-taskforce-on-blockchain/ Online societies are easier to serve (govern). Time tracking of employees becomes easier. Progress or delays of projects & processes (say NEMA closing a factory emitting toxic fumes killing children) is easier to query/audit. These are good points for your brief to the Senate ;) Once upon a time a former lands CS visited his home county.. https://citizentv.co.ke/news/cs-kaimenyi-storms-leaking-maua-lands-office-16... Kaimenyi said he also sought to find out the state of internet connectivity from the land registry but was informed that the offices have not had access to internet for the past two years. He challenged land registrars in different parts of the country to communicate to the Ministry whenever they have resource challenges terming it as their right.. On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 12:51 AM Abshiro Halake via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Team,

I hear you all loud and clear. I also know that the importance of ICT is well known understood in government. But like most things important there seems to be a blockage. We will try our best to shout and ask questions but reeaaly looong responses will be provided and we go round in circles. We will soldier on though. Let me draft some statements for someone (Senator) to ask me these questions as leadership of ICT Comittee so that we trigger debate and use that to seek answers from all concerned. Lately I am having to do this a lot - did that with connectivity concerns, taxation etc...

Thanks again y'all.

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020, 14:54 Twahir Hussein Kassim via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

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Senator,

We cannot over emphasise what Ali has so ably jotted down. To expound on this further... a) *T**hat government jobs are so temporary especially for a certain cadre of peopl*e - the job might be temporary but the government isn't whatever is done within the government should remain. Having said that, I would also say that that is not a valid excuse. Take an example of a CeC, a Chief Officer or Director in a county government using a personal mail for official communications. The position they hold might be politically connected and be replaced immediately there is a change of guard, however whatever they touch whilst in that position has a lot of impact on the ground. b) *Tech maintenance and support is so bad* - agreed and I go back to point (a) above; seriously this should not even be an argument. What comes to light is the utter disregard for ICT to regard it as the OLDEN day copy typist who would type and file the copy which might never be sourced for again. What we forget is that whatever is saved online now can be retrieved in a nano-second and were it to be released to the public might create a pandora effect. For as long as we don't treat IT seriously tech-support would be left to interns or anyone who can hold a screwdriver! I would equate tech support to the BANK VAULT KEY HOLDER, would the key be left to an intern?

*Remedy* Mandatory ICT Literacy which should include a session on ICT Security and Cyber Crime.

Kwa hayo machache... :-) asanteni

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 8:58 AM Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

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Mheshimiwa

Thanks for your personal attention on this matter. My two cents:-

1. First to answer your two issues.

a) *T**hat government jobs are so temporary especially for a certain cadre of peopl*e - For as long as one is in Government employment everything that person does on behalf of the people of Kenya remains the property of the people of Kenya. I think the confusion starts when government employees mix personal business with government business. There's a possibility here that there is a requirement for some sensitivity training. We do take a lot for granted but we shouldn't. Bottomline. ALL OFFICIAL BUSINESS SHOULD BE DONE OFFICIALLY. ON GOVT COMMUNICATION CHANNELS. Which means official .go.ke emails. b) *Tech maintenance and support is so bad* - I will not be surprised if this is the case. However, this should not be an excuse for not using official Govt Email. To be honest, Mheshimiwa, its super embarrassing for a country that is kicking ass (forgive the slang) in the technology space worldwide to have a conversation with colleagues in say Nigeria, and one sentence about Government Ministers using gmail/yahoo/hotmail deflates the conversation. Isn't the ICT Authority supposed to sort of act as Government CIO (Chief Information Officer). May be its time for a substantive Government Chief Information Officer responsible for all ICT issues in Government? including Data Centres, ICT Strategy etc? Do we need to revisit ICTA's mandate?

2. In today's world, we cannot afford sensitive government documents all over the world wide web on servers that we have zero control of. My sense is that we need to have some basic **musts** that need to be engrained in government employees. This could actually be an act of parliament on how govt operates ICT Infrastructure for its day to day operations. Here's an example of how the U.K Government deals with this email issue.

3. Lastly Mheshimiwa, this issue of government email use has been discussed for years on this list and others. I don't honestly think (with all due respect to all responsible) that it has been taken seriously enough. Time to take it a notch higher. Could it possibly be something that the Senate ICT Committee can take up and see it to its logical conclusion? I mean if the National Government is in such a rut when it comes to basic email communication can you imagine what is happening in the counties?

I think that should be enough to keep you busy on this issue. :-)

*Ali Hussein*

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On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 11:33 PM Abshiro Halake via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

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Ali, Twahir, team,

Great idea to enlighten the government and its agencies on this. The ICT Ministry should actually take the lead. We could put a parliamentary question to the ICT Ministry as to why the government continues to use personal emails. That being said, I was once told that there are two reasons why this is the case - 1. that government jobs are so temporary especially for certain cadre of people and 2. tech maintenance and support is so bad. Not sure if these are just excuses but it may be worth it to still put the questions. Can someone send me a few pointers to include in the question/statement? Perhaps why it is important to change this and also reassurance on security etc.....

Thanks and kind regards,

Sen. Abshiro

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 8:26 PM Twahir Hussein Kassim via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

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On these lines, the central government, county governments, parastatals, constituencies etc need to take the lead.

As Ali earlier in the week shared, it's very unfortunate to see government department letterheads with a PERSONAL yahoo / gmail / hotmail address. Is it that the government is unable to host a mail server or procure a cloud service? Bottom line again you will note is the ignorance towards basic IT security.

KENIC should seek to enlighten the powers that be!

My 2 cents!

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020, 12:55 PM Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

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Team KeNIC

As we celebrate the 100k milestone we need to take cognisant of the issues raised in the last AGM. We still await a comprehensive follow-through by KeNIC. I suspect with better corporate governance the next milestone of 100k names will be much easier to reach.

Regards

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Great points Muraya. We will compile all these and put the question to the Ministry. Thank you all for your great inputs, very helpful indeed. Kind regards, Abshiro On Mon, Jul 6, 2020, 11:16 S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com> wrote:

Abshiro,

In 2015, we made references to this malpractice on the list (KICTANET - links are offline:)

http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/2015-March/025361.html - reference was to transparency (accessibility) levels required in the USA.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-31806907

Public info/data is privatized and made inaccessible (to the State and the public) via the use of private e-mail addresses. If the email domain used is private (gmail, outlook, yahoo, co.ke, etc), it does not belong to the Government of Kenya. It is also unlikely to have been (legally) procured via http://ppra.go.ke/ processes. This includes domain management (a technical issue which Walu can explain in simple terms :)

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 11:33 PM Abshiro Halake via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

Ali, Twahir, team,

Great idea to enlighten the government and its agencies on this. The ICT Ministry should actually take the lead. We could put a parliamentary question to the ICT Ministry as to why the government continues to use personal emails. That being said, I was once told that there are two reasons why this is the case - 1. that government jobs are so temporary especially for certain cadre of people and 2. tech maintenance and support is so bad. Not sure if these are just excuses but it may be worth it to still put the questions. Can someone send me a few pointers to include in the question/statement? Perhaps why it is important to change this and also reassurance on security etc.....

Thanks and kind regards,

Sen. Abshiro

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 8:26 PM Twahir Hussein Kassim via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

On these lines, the central government, county governments, parastatals, constituencies etc need to take the lead.

As Ali earlier in the week shared, it's very unfortunate to see government department letterheads with a PERSONAL yahoo / gmail / hotmail address. Is it that the government is unable to host a mail server or procure a cloud service? Bottom line again you will note is the ignorance towards basic IT security.

KENIC should seek to enlighten the powers that be!

My 2 cents!

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020, 12:55 PM Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

...

Team KeNIC

As we celebrate the 100k milestone we need to take cognisant of the issues raised in the last AGM. We still await a comprehensive follow-through by KeNIC. I suspect with better corporate governance the next milestone of 100k names will be much easier to reach.

Regards

*Ali Hussein*

Tel: +254 713 601113

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Skype: abu-jomo

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On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 11:21 PM Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

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Listers,

Finally we have over 100,000 <http://registry.kenic.or.ke/statistics.jsp> .Ke names, what a milestone. Next should be the 1 Million Mark.

Kudos to the KeNIC team.

Regards

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Bw. Joel, Thanks for your prompt response. I shall do the needful. Twahir On Mon, Jul 6, 2020, 6:08 PM Kenic CEO <ceo@kenic.or.ke> wrote:

Good afternoon Twahir

In response to your challenge on applications, i believe we addressing the fact that we ask to receive a duly filled application form.

This has been the case due to an internal process that we go through to assess the suitability to become a registrar, this is also in line with our licensing conditions and obligations with CA.

Obviously with the Covid situation, we have also had to adapt and interested parties have been sending duly filled forms scanned with the necessary information for consideration.

Our internal team is working on an online registration form which should also be available soon.

We are open to accepting different options of submission as long as we still adhere to the necessary requirements.

I am happy to discuss further on how we can assist you get accredited.

regards ---------------------------------- Joel Karubiu Chief Executive Officer ceo@kenic.or.ke

------------------------------ *From: *"Twahir Hussein Kassim via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *To: *ceo@kenic.or.ke *Cc: *"Twahir Hussein Kassim" <twahir@hussein.me.ke> *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2020 4:57:22 PM *Subject: *[kictanet] .ke Registrar Applications

Listers,

I am currently engaged with schools in Kilifi and the County Government. To make matters easier for me, I thought it would be good to apply to become a .ke registrar. I was both amused and enraged to see an organisation that should be drumming up support to digitalisation enforce draconian way. The registrar application page reads: -

Those organizations interested in becoming registrars should: 1) Formally apply to KeNIC. The formal application letter should be sent by post (or delivered by hand) to KENIC, attention the Chief Executive Officer. Please note that the application letter should also be accompanied by your Company's Profile detailing your company's operations, location and abilities.

Source: https://kenic.or.ke/registrars/

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