Re: [kictanet] CCK Denies being involved in Telkom Kenya/France
<A href=3D"mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com">Dennis Kioko Mbuvi</A></SPAN><BR><SPAN=
Telecom saga MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1942899757==" --===============1942899757== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8ff25178edaeec04e50f2353 --e89a8ff25178edaeec04e50f2353 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I feel it's time Orange ate the humble pie. This wars with government are just distracting the company and they now also look like the company is fighting with patriotism by extension. Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet talk GoK for tax and other incentives rather than arm twist it? Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ali Hussein Sent: =E2=80=8E29/=E2=80=8E08/=E2=80=8E2013 08:12 To: Dennis Kioko Mbuvi Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] CCK Denies being involved in Telkom Kenya/France Telecom saga Listers In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning and threat of punitive action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what it calls 'unprocedural' transfer of shares. In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right thing. Lets go one step further:- The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed experiment and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' back to the Kenyan People. http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost= ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html * * *Ali Hussein* *CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd* *Partner, Telemedia Africa Ltd * Tel: +254713601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/al= ihkassim> Blog: www.alyhussein.com Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. --e89a8ff25178edaeec04e50f2353 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" http-equiv=3DContent-Type></HE= AD> <BODY> <DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif">I feel it's= time Orange ate the humble pie. This wars with government are just distrac= ting the company and they now also look like the company is fighting with p= atriotism by extension. <BR><BR>Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet talk Go= K for tax and other incentives rather than arm twist it? <BR><BR>Sent from = my Windows Phone</DIV></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr> <HR> <SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGH= T: bold">From: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,= sans-serif"><A href=3D"mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">Ali Hussein</A></SPAN><BR>= <SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGH= T: bold">Sent: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,= sans-serif">=E2=80=8E29/=E2=80=8E08/=E2=80=8E2013 08:12</SPAN><BR><SPAN sty= le=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">= To: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif"= style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: bo= ld">Cc: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-se= rif"><A href=3D"mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">KICTAnet ICT Policy D= iscussions</A></SPAN><BR><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calib= ri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE:= 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif">[kictanet] CCK Denies being involve= d in Telkom Kenya/France Telecom saga</SPAN><BR><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML><di= v dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:georgia,ser= if">Listers<br><br>In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning and thr= eat of punitive action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what it calls= 'unprocedural' transfer of shares.<br> <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif">= In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right thing. Lets= go one step further:-<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f= ont-family:georgia,serif"> The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed experiment= and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' back to th= e Kenyan People.<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa= mily:georgia,serif"> <br><a href=3D"http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+pen= alties+for+costly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html">http://w= ww.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+costly+share= +deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html</a><br clear=3D"all"> </div><div><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font><b><span style=3D"fon= t-family:"Baskerville Old Face","serif""><br></span></b=
</font></p><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font><b><span style=3D"fo= nt-family:"Baskerville Old Face","serif"">Ali Hussein</span></b></font></p><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font><b>= <span style=3D"font-family:"Baskerville Old Face","serif&quo= t;">CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd</span></b></font></p><p style=3D"margi= n:0in 0in 0.0001pt"> <font><b><span style=3D"font-family:"Baskerville Old Face","= serif""><b><span style=3D"font-family:"Baskerville Old Face"= ,"serif"">Partner, </span></b>Telemedia Africa Ltd<br></span></b>= </font></p> <font>
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Since when was a landline company a 'crown jewel'. It's 2013 and that company should just be left to fall apart on its own. In the US, only 1 in 4 households will have a traditional landline by the end of the year: http://www.salon.com/2013/07/09/telephone_companies_abandon_copper_phone_lin... I presume the Kenyan rate is far below that but it seems like the focus should be on fiber and LTE and not worrying about dinosaurs like Kenya Telekom -Adam -- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
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I feel it's time Orange ate the humble pie. This wars with government are just distracting the company and they now also look like the company is fighting with patriotism by extension.
Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet talk GoK for tax and other incentives rather than arm twist it?
Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ali Hussein Sent: =E2=80=8E29/=E2=80=8E08/=E2=80=8E2013 08:12 To: Dennis Kioko Mbuvi Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] CCK Denies being involved in Telkom Kenya/France Telecom saga Listers
In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning and threat of punitive action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what it calls 'unprocedural' transfer of shares.
In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right thing. Lets go one step further:-
The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed experiment and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' back to the Kenyan People.
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost= ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html
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*Ali Hussein*
*CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd*
*Partner, Telemedia Africa Ltd *
Tel: +254713601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<; http://ke.linkedin.com/in/al= ihkassim>
Blog: www.alyhussein.com
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
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<A href=3D"mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com">Dennis Kioko Mbuvi</A></SPAN><BR><SPAN=
<HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" http-equiv=3DContent-Type></HE= AD> <BODY> <DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif">I feel it's= time Orange ate the humble pie. This wars with government are just distrac= ting the company and they now also look like the company is fighting with p= atriotism by extension. <BR><BR>Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet talk Go= K for tax and other incentives rather than arm twist it? <BR><BR>Sent from = my Windows Phone</DIV></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr> <HR> <SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGH= T: bold">From: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,= sans-serif"><A href=3D"mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">Ali Hussein</A></SPAN><BR>= <SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGH= T: bold">Sent: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,= sans-serif">=E2=80=8E29/=E2=80=8E08/=E2=80=8E2013 08:12</SPAN><BR><SPAN sty= le=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">= To: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif"= style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: bo= ld">Cc: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-se= rif"><A href=3D"mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">KICTAnet ICT Policy D= iscussions</A></SPAN><BR><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calib= ri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE:= 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif">[kictanet] CCK Denies being involve= d in Telkom Kenya/France Telecom saga</SPAN><BR><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML><di= v dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:georgia,ser= if">Listers<br><br>In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning and thr= eat of punitive action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what it calls= 'unprocedural' transfer of shares.<br> <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif">= In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right thing. Lets= go one step further:-<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f= ont-family:georgia,serif"> The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed experiment= and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' back to th= e Kenyan People.<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa= mily:georgia,serif"> <br><a href=3D" http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+pen= alties+for+costly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html"> http://w=
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</span></font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font><span style=3D"fon= t-family:georgia,serif"><span>Skype: abu-jomo</span></span></font></p><p st= yle=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font><span style=3D"font-family:georgia,se= rif"><span>LinkedIn: <a href=3D"http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" targe= t=3D"_blank">http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim</a></span><a href=3D"http= ://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:wi= ndowtext;text-decoration:none"></span></a></span></font></p> <font><span style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif"></span></font><p style=3D"m= argin:0in 0in 0.0001pt">
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Adam Indeed. Tongue in cheek..:) Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd +254 713 601113/ 0770 906375 "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb Sent from my iPad On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:39 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Since when was a landline company a 'crown jewel'. It's 2013 and that company should just be left to fall apart on its own.
In the US, only 1 in 4 households will have a traditional landline by the end of the year:
http://www.salon.com/2013/07/09/telephone_companies_abandon_copper_phone_lin...
I presume the Kenyan rate is far below that but it seems like the focus should be on fiber and LTE and not worrying about dinosaurs like Kenya Telekom
-Adam -- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
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I feel it's time Orange ate the humble pie. This wars with government are just distracting the company and they now also look like the company is fighting with patriotism by extension.
Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet talk GoK for tax and other incentives rather than arm twist it?
Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ali Hussein Sent: =E2=80=8E29/=E2=80=8E08/=E2=80=8E2013 08:12 To: Dennis Kioko Mbuvi Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] CCK Denies being involved in Telkom Kenya/France Telecom saga Listers
In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning and threat of punitive action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what it calls 'unprocedural' transfer of shares.
In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right thing. Lets go one step further:-
The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed experiment and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' back to the Kenyan People.
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost= ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html
* *
*Ali Hussein*
*CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd*
*Partner, Telemedia Africa Ltd *
Tel: +254713601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/al= ihkassim>
Blog: www.alyhussein.com
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
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<HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" http-equiv=3DContent-Type></HE= AD> <BODY> <DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif">I feel it's= time Orange ate the humble pie. This wars with government are just distrac= ting the company and they now also look like the company is fighting with p= atriotism by extension. <BR><BR>Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet talk Go= K for tax and other incentives rather than arm twist it? <BR><BR>Sent from = my Windows Phone</DIV></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr> <HR> <SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGH= T: bold">From: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,= sans-serif"><A href=3D"mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">Ali Hussein</A></SPAN><BR>= <SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGH= T: bold">Sent: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,= sans-serif">=E2=80=8E29/=E2=80=8E08/=E2=80=8E2013 08:12</SPAN><BR><SPAN sty= le=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">= To: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif"= style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: bo= ld">Cc: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-se= rif"><A href=3D"mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">KICTAnet ICT Policy D= iscussions</A></SPAN><BR><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calib= ri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE:= 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif">[kictanet] CCK Denies being involve= d in Telkom Kenya/France Telecom saga</SPAN><BR><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML><di= v dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:georgia,ser= if">Listers<br><br>In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning and thr= eat of punitive action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what it calls= 'unprocedural' transfer of shares.<br> <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif">= In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right thing. Lets= go one step further:-<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f= ont-family:georgia,serif"> The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed experiment= and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' back to th= e Kenyan People.<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa= mily:georgia,serif"> <br><a href=3D"http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+pen= alties+for+costly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html">http://w= ww.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+costly+share= +deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html</a><br clear=3D"all"> </div><div><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font><b><span style=3D"fon= t-family:"Baskerville Old Face","serif""><br></span></b=
</font></p><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font><b><span style=3D"fo= nt-family:"Baskerville Old Face","serif"">Ali Hussein</span></b></font></p><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font><b>= <span style=3D"font-family:"Baskerville Old Face","serif&quo= t;">CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd</span></b></font></p><p style=3D"margi= n:0in 0in 0.0001pt"> <font><b><span style=3D"font-family:"Baskerville Old Face","= serif""><b><span style=3D"font-family:"Baskerville Old Face"= ,"serif"">Partner, </span></b>Telemedia Africa Ltd<br></span></b>= </font></p> <font>
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@Adam Is there a western country that has allowed its original carrier to collapse on its own? Infact has any of them allowed a foreign company to come do the honours for it? The notion that governments cannot run successful businesses is refuted by France Telecom Better known as Orange and DHL which are still wholly government owned by their respective companies. Is AT&T collapsing? The 30 billion shillings that France telecom has effectively been awarded is still ot translating to profits. Next they will want to sell prime real estate because they don't have money. This is not a business issue but manipulation for control. France telecom wants total control of Telecom Kenya possibly for nefarious reasons. I fail to see how they are not able to turn a profit with all the resources at their disposal. On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Adam
Indeed. Tongue in cheek..:)
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On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:39 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Since when was a landline company a 'crown jewel'. It's 2013 and that company should just be left to fall apart on its own.
In the US, only 1 in 4 households will have a traditional landline by the end of the year:
http://www.salon.com/2013/07/09/telephone_companies_abandon_copper_phone_lin...
I presume the Kenyan rate is far below that but it seems like the focus should be on fiber and LTE and not worrying about dinosaurs like Kenya Telekom
-Adam -- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
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I feel it's time Orange ate the humble pie. This wars with government are just distracting the company and they now also look like the company is fighting with patriotism by extension.
Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet talk GoK for tax and other incentives rather than arm twist it?
Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ali Hussein Sent: =E2=80=8E29/=E2=80=8E08/=E2=80=8E2013 08:12 To: Dennis Kioko Mbuvi Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] CCK Denies being involved in Telkom Kenya/France Telecom saga Listers
In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning and threat of punitive action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what it calls 'unprocedural' transfer of shares.
In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right thing. Lets go one step further:-
The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed experiment and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' back to the Kenyan People.
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost= ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html<http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost=ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html>
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<A href=3D"mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com">Dennis Kioko Mbuvi</A></SPAN><BR><SPAN=
<HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" http-equiv=3DContent-Type></HE= AD> <BODY> <DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif">I feel it's= time Orange ate the humble pie. This wars with government are just distrac= ting the company and they now also look like the company is fighting with p= atriotism by extension. <BR><BR>Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet talk Go= K for tax and other incentives rather than arm twist it? <BR><BR>Sent from = my Windows Phone</DIV></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr> <HR> <SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGH= T: bold">From: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,= sans-serif"><A href=3D"mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">Ali Hussein</A></SPAN><BR>= <SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGH= T: bold">Sent: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,= sans-serif">=E2=80=8E29/=E2=80=8E08/=E2=80=8E2013 08:12</SPAN><BR><SPAN sty= le=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">= To: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif"= style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: bo= ld">Cc: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-se= rif"><A href=3D"mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">KICTAnet ICT Policy D= iscussions</A></SPAN><BR><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calib= ri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE:= 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif">[kictanet] CCK Denies being involve= d in Telkom Kenya/France Telecom saga</SPAN><BR><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML><di= v dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:georgia,ser= if">Listers<br><br>In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning and thr= eat of punitive action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what it calls= 'unprocedural' transfer of shares.<br> <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif">= In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right thing. Lets= go one step further:-<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f= ont-family:georgia,serif"> The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed experiment= and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' back to th= e Kenyan People.<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa= mily:georgia,serif"> <br><a href=3D" http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+pen= alties+for+costly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html<http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+pen=alties+for+costly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html> ">http://w=
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Those are valid points but the facts aren't all there. 1. At&t was never government owned although they did enjoy a monopoly until 1982 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_AT%26T) when the federal government broke it up. 2. DHL was not majority controlled by Deutsche Post (the national mail carrier of Germany) until 2002 (http://wap.dhl.com/info/history.html) by which point Deutsche Post had already been an independent corporation for 2 years (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Post) 3. Orange S.A. (formerly France Telecom) is minority owned by the French government (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_S.A.#Shareholders) but the majority of shares have been public since 2004 - three years before the Telkom investment. -- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
@Adam Is there a western country that has allowed its original carrier to collapse on its own? Infact has any of them allowed a foreign company to come do the honours for it? The notion that governments cannot run successful businesses is refuted by France Telecom Better known as Orange and DHL which are still wholly government owned by their respective companies. Is AT&T collapsing?
The 30 billion shillings that France telecom has effectively been awarded is still ot translating to profits. Next they will want to sell prime real estate because they don't have money.
This is not a business issue but manipulation for control. France telecom wants total control of Telecom Kenya possibly for nefarious reasons. I fail to see how they are not able to turn a profit with all the resources at their disposal.
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Adam
Indeed. Tongue in cheek..:)
Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
+254 713 601113/ 0770 906375
"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb
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On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:39 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Since when was a landline company a 'crown jewel'. It's 2013 and that company should just be left to fall apart on its own.
In the US, only 1 in 4 households will have a traditional landline by the end of the year:
http://www.salon.com/2013/07/09/telephone_companies_abandon_copper_phone_lin...
I presume the Kenyan rate is far below that but it seems like the focus should be on fiber and LTE and not worrying about dinosaurs like Kenya Telekom
-Adam -- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
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I feel it's time Orange ate the humble pie. This wars with government are just distracting the company and they now also look like the company is fighting with patriotism by extension.
Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet talk GoK for tax and other incentives rather than arm twist it?
Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ali Hussein Sent: =E2=80=8E29/=E2=80=8E08/=E2=80=8E2013 08:12 To: Dennis Kioko Mbuvi Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] CCK Denies being involved in Telkom Kenya/France Telecom saga Listers
In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning and threat of punitive action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what it calls 'unprocedural' transfer of shares.
In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right thing. Lets go one step further:-
The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed experiment and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' back to the Kenyan People.
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost= ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html<http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost=ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html>
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*Ali Hussein*
*CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd*
*Partner, Telemedia Africa Ltd *
Tel: +254713601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
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<HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" http-equiv=3DContent-Type></HE= AD> <BODY> <DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif">I feel it's= time Orange ate the humble pie. This wars with government are just distrac= ting the company and they now also look like the company is fighting with p= atriotism by extension. <BR><BR>Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet talk Go= K for tax and other incentives rather than arm twist it? <BR><BR>Sent from = my Windows Phone</DIV></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr> <HR> <SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGH= T: bold">From: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,= sans-serif"><A href=3D"mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">Ali Hussein</A></SPAN><BR>= <SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGH= T: bold">Sent: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,= sans-serif">=E2=80=8E29/=E2=80=8E08/=E2=80=8E2013 08:12</SPAN><BR><SPAN sty= le=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">= To: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif"= style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: bo= ld">Cc: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-se= rif"><A href=3D"mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">KICTAnet ICT Policy D= iscussions</A></SPAN><BR><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calib= ri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE:= 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif">[kictanet] CCK Denies being involve= d in Telkom Kenya/France Telecom saga</SPAN><BR><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML><di= v dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:georgia,ser= if">Listers<br><br>In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning and thr= eat of punitive action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what it calls= 'unprocedural' transfer of shares.<br> <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif">= In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right thing. Lets= go one step further:-<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f= ont-family:georgia,serif"> The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed experiment= and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' back to th= e Kenyan People.<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa= mily:georgia,serif"> <br><a href=3D" http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+pen= alties+for+costly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html<http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+pen=alties+for+costly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html> ">http://w=
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Sorry Adam but I beg to differ. 1) You cannot compare the US copper plant with the Kenyan copper plant 2) One of the most valuable components of a copper plant is the right of way (wayleave) 3) TKL also owns/controls 40% of the TEAMS fiber optic cable 4) TKL has management rights for the National fibre backbone - NOFBI 5) TKL owns real estate in every county, district and sub-location in the country (it's branches and exchanges) 6) TKL holds a "basket" of licenses,along with frequencies that would arouse any telco in the world Best regards, Brian On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Since when was a landline company a 'crown jewel'. It's 2013 and that company should just be left to fall apart on its own.
In the US, only 1 in 4 households will have a traditional landline by the end of the year:
http://www.salon.com/2013/07/09/telephone_companies_abandon_copper_phone_lin...
I presume the Kenyan rate is far below that but it seems like the focus should be on fiber and LTE and not worrying about dinosaurs like Kenya Telekom
-Adam -- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
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I feel it's time Orange ate the humble pie. This wars with government are just distracting the company and they now also look like the company is fighting with patriotism by extension.
Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet talk GoK for tax and other incentives rather than arm twist it?
Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ali Hussein Sent: =E2=80=8E29/=E2=80=8E08/=E2=80=8E2013 08:12 To: Dennis Kioko Mbuvi Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] CCK Denies being involved in Telkom Kenya/France Telecom saga Listers
In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning and threat of punitive action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what it calls 'unprocedural' transfer of shares.
In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right thing. Lets go one step further:-
The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed experiment and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' back to the Kenyan People.
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost= ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html<http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost=ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html>
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*Ali Hussein*
*CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd*
*Partner, Telemedia Africa Ltd *
Tel: +254713601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<; http://ke.linkedin.com/in/al= ihkassim>
Blog: www.alyhussein.com
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
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<HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" http-equiv=3DContent-Type></HE= AD> <BODY> <DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif">I feel it's= time Orange ate the humble pie. This wars with government are just distrac= ting the company and they now also look like the company is fighting with p= atriotism by extension. <BR><BR>Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet talk Go= K for tax and other incentives rather than arm twist it? <BR><BR>Sent from = my Windows Phone</DIV></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr> <HR> <SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGH= T: bold">From: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,= sans-serif"><A href=3D"mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">Ali Hussein</A></SPAN><BR>= <SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGH= T: bold">Sent: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,= sans-serif">=E2=80=8E29/=E2=80=8E08/=E2=80=8E2013 08:12</SPAN><BR><SPAN sty= le=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">= To: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif"= style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: bo= ld">Cc: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-se= rif"><A href=3D"mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">KICTAnet ICT Policy D= iscussions</A></SPAN><BR><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calib= ri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE:= 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif">[kictanet] CCK Denies being involve= d in Telkom Kenya/France Telecom saga</SPAN><BR><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML><di= v dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:georgia,ser= if">Listers<br><br>In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning and thr= eat of punitive action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what it calls= 'unprocedural' transfer of shares.<br> <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif">= In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right thing. Lets= go one step further:-<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f= ont-family:georgia,serif"> The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed experiment= and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' back to th= e Kenyan People.<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa= mily:georgia,serif"> <br><a href=3D" http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+pen= alties+for+costly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html<http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+pen=alties+for+costly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html> ">http://w=
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@Adam thanks for the correction. I need to do my homework better. It appears most of the companies are not wholly govt controlled. They are however still vibrant maybe due to Govt. influence such as the monopoly afforded to AT&T. As Brian says, the sheer infrastructure so strategically placed is a gold mine. No reason they shouldn't be the most profitable institution this side of the Congo Forest. And I do not believe it is inept management. I believe it is legitimate shareholder dilution. On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
Sorry Adam but I beg to differ.
1) You cannot compare the US copper plant with the Kenyan copper plant 2) One of the most valuable components of a copper plant is the right of way (wayleave) 3) TKL also owns/controls 40% of the TEAMS fiber optic cable 4) TKL has management rights for the National fibre backbone - NOFBI 5) TKL owns real estate in every county, district and sub-location in the country (it's branches and exchanges) 6) TKL holds a "basket" of licenses,along with frequencies that would arouse any telco in the world
Best regards,
Brian
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Since when was a landline company a 'crown jewel'. It's 2013 and that company should just be left to fall apart on its own.
In the US, only 1 in 4 households will have a traditional landline by the end of the year:
http://www.salon.com/2013/07/09/telephone_companies_abandon_copper_phone_lin...
I presume the Kenyan rate is far below that but it seems like the focus should be on fiber and LTE and not worrying about dinosaurs like Kenya Telekom
-Adam -- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
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I feel it's time Orange ate the humble pie. This wars with government are just distracting the company and they now also look like the company is fighting with patriotism by extension.
Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet talk GoK for tax and other incentives rather than arm twist it?
Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ali Hussein Sent: =E2=80=8E29/=E2=80=8E08/=E2=80=8E2013 08:12 To: Dennis Kioko Mbuvi Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] CCK Denies being involved in Telkom Kenya/France Telecom saga Listers
In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning and threat of punitive action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what it calls 'unprocedural' transfer of shares.
In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right thing. Lets go one step further:-
The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed experiment and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' back to the Kenyan People.
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost= ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html<http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost=ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html>
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Hmm, answers inline: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
Sorry Adam but I beg to differ.
1) You cannot compare the US copper plant with the Kenyan copper plant
True ... but if the US one is waning to the point where they're not laying anymore than that's a good signal that it's a dying technology
2) One of the most valuable components of a copper plant is the right of way (wayleave)
Agreed.
3) TKL also owns/controls 40% of the TEAMS fiber optic cable
That's worth some but that cable is not nearly as valuable as EASSy or SEACOM and the ownership is 17% according to this article which may be dated (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TEAMS_(cable_system)
4) TKL has management rights for the National fibre backbone - NOFBI
That seems more like a duty than a right. If they make too much money from it, CCK or GoK will reassign the right to another company. How long is that contract for?
5) TKL owns real estate in every county, district and sub-location in the country (it's branches and exchanges)
Agreed
6) TKL holds a "basket" of licenses,along with frequencies that would arouse any telco in the world
I presume those licenses can be reassigned by CCK but of course they're valuable if the spectrum is usable by the mobile operators ... but they're not really valuable since a fifth mobile operator license has been denied by GoK ...
Best regards,
Brian
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Since when was a landline company a 'crown jewel'. It's 2013 and that company should just be left to fall apart on its own.
In the US, only 1 in 4 households will have a traditional landline by the end of the year:
http://www.salon.com/2013/07/09/telephone_companies_abandon_copper_phone_lin...
I presume the Kenyan rate is far below that but it seems like the focus should be on fiber and LTE and not worrying about dinosaurs like Kenya Telekom
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On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
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I feel it's time Orange ate the humble pie. This wars with government are just distracting the company and they now also look like the company is fighting with patriotism by extension.
Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet talk GoK for tax and other incentives rather than arm twist it?
Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ali Hussein Sent: =E2=80=8E29/=E2=80=8E08/=E2=80=8E2013 08:12 To: Dennis Kioko Mbuvi Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] CCK Denies being involved in Telkom Kenya/France Telecom saga Listers
In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning and threat of punitive action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what it calls 'unprocedural' transfer of shares.
In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right thing. Lets go one step further:-
The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed experiment and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' back to the Kenyan People.
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost= ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html<http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost=ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html>
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*CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd*
*Partner, Telemedia Africa Ltd *
Tel: +254713601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<; http://ke.linkedin.com/in/al= ihkassim>
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Well noted Brian, though as Adam notes, fiber is the future. Orange is laying a good amount of Fiber now. We need Orange Leadership to offer (Shared) Business Internet @ 5K (5Mbs) to 10K (10Mbs) Caps if they must exist - 200GB for the 5K offer..... 500GB for the 10K offer. Of course they need prompt to respond, precise/accurate customer service. Blessings Murigi / Stanley Muraya *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32* On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
Sorry Adam but I beg to differ.
1) You cannot compare the US copper plant with the Kenyan copper plant 2) One of the most valuable components of a copper plant is the right of way (wayleave) 3) TKL also owns/controls 40% of the TEAMS fiber optic cable 4) TKL has management rights for the National fibre backbone - NOFBI 5) TKL owns real estate in every county, district and sub-location in the country (it's branches and exchanges) 6) TKL holds a "basket" of licenses,along with frequencies that would arouse any telco in the world
Best regards,
Brian
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Since when was a landline company a 'crown jewel'. It's 2013 and that company should just be left to fall apart on its own.
In the US, only 1 in 4 households will have a traditional landline by the end of the year:
http://www.salon.com/2013/07/09/telephone_companies_abandon_copper_phone_lin...
I presume the Kenyan rate is far below that but it seems like the focus should be on fiber and LTE and not worrying about dinosaurs like Kenya Telekom
-Adam -- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
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I feel it's time Orange ate the humble pie. This wars with government are just distracting the company and they now also look like the company is fighting with patriotism by extension.
Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet talk GoK for tax and other incentives rather than arm twist it?
Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ali Hussein Sent: =E2=80=8E29/=E2=80=8E08/=E2=80=8E2013 08:12 To: Dennis Kioko Mbuvi Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] CCK Denies being involved in Telkom Kenya/France Telecom saga Listers
In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning and threat of punitive action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what it calls 'unprocedural' transfer of shares.
In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right thing. Lets go one step further:-
The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed experiment and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' back to the Kenyan People.
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost= ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html<http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost=ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html>
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Bottom line is the current TKL management (read France Telecom) blindly believe that they can compete with Safaricom as a mobile operator, thereby neglecting all other potential assets/revenue opportunities. Maybe take away everything else and leave them with the mobile license (there is a precedent for this in Tanzania). As for the total potential that TKL has - my list only scratched the surface.... Brian On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:00 PM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com>wrote:
Well noted Brian, though as Adam notes, fiber is the future. Orange is laying a good amount of Fiber now.
We need Orange Leadership to offer (Shared) Business Internet @ 5K (5Mbs) to 10K (10Mbs)
Caps if they must exist - 200GB for the 5K offer..... 500GB for the 10K offer.
Of course they need prompt to respond, precise/accurate customer service.
Blessings
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
Sorry Adam but I beg to differ.
1) You cannot compare the US copper plant with the Kenyan copper plant 2) One of the most valuable components of a copper plant is the right of way (wayleave) 3) TKL also owns/controls 40% of the TEAMS fiber optic cable 4) TKL has management rights for the National fibre backbone - NOFBI 5) TKL owns real estate in every county, district and sub-location in the country (it's branches and exchanges) 6) TKL holds a "basket" of licenses,along with frequencies that would arouse any telco in the world
Best regards,
Brian
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Since when was a landline company a 'crown jewel'. It's 2013 and that company should just be left to fall apart on its own.
In the US, only 1 in 4 households will have a traditional landline by the end of the year:
http://www.salon.com/2013/07/09/telephone_companies_abandon_copper_phone_lin...
I presume the Kenyan rate is far below that but it seems like the focus should be on fiber and LTE and not worrying about dinosaurs like Kenya Telekom
-Adam -- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
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I feel it's time Orange ate the humble pie. This wars with government are just distracting the company and they now also look like the company is fighting with patriotism by extension.
Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet talk GoK for tax and other incentives rather than arm twist it?
Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ali Hussein Sent: =E2=80=8E29/=E2=80=8E08/=E2=80=8E2013 08:12 To: Dennis Kioko Mbuvi Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] CCK Denies being involved in Telkom Kenya/France Telecom saga Listers
In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning and threat of punitive action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what it calls 'unprocedural' transfer of shares.
In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right thing. Lets go one step further:-
The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed experiment and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' back to the Kenyan People.
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost= ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html<http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost=ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html>
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*Ali Hussein*
*CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd*
*Partner, Telemedia Africa Ltd *
Tel: +254713601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<; http://ke.linkedin.com/in/al= ihkassim>
Blog: www.alyhussein.com
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
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<HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" http-equiv=3DContent-Type></HE= AD> <BODY> <DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif">I feel it's= time Orange ate the humble pie. This wars with government are just distrac= ting the company and they now also look like the company is fighting with p= atriotism by extension. <BR><BR>Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet talk Go= K for tax and other incentives rather than arm twist it? <BR><BR>Sent from = my Windows Phone</DIV></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr> <HR> <SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGH= T: bold">From: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,= sans-serif"><A href=3D"mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">Ali Hussein</A></SPAN><BR>= <SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGH= T: bold">Sent: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,= sans-serif">=E2=80=8E29/=E2=80=8E08/=E2=80=8E2013 08:12</SPAN><BR><SPAN sty= le=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">= To: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif"= style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: bo= ld">Cc: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-se= rif"><A href=3D"mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">KICTAnet ICT Policy D= iscussions</A></SPAN><BR><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calib= ri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE:= 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif">[kictanet] CCK Denies being involve= d in Telkom Kenya/France Telecom saga</SPAN><BR><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML><di= v dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:georgia,ser= if">Listers<br><br>In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning and thr= eat of punitive action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what it calls= 'unprocedural' transfer of shares.<br> <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif">= In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right thing. Lets= go one step further:-<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f= ont-family:georgia,serif"> The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed experiment= and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' back to th= e Kenyan People.<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa= mily:georgia,serif"> <br><a href=3D" http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+pen= alties+for+costly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html<http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+pen=alties+for+costly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html> ">http://w=
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Safaricom is laying fiber too... bet in the near future, they will beat totally beat Orange by making this kind offer. Blessings Murigi / Stanley Muraya *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32* On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
Bottom line is the current TKL management (read France Telecom) blindly believe that they can compete with Safaricom as a mobile operator, thereby neglecting all other potential assets/revenue opportunities. Maybe take away everything else and leave them with the mobile license (there is a precedent for this in Tanzania).
As for the total potential that TKL has - my list only scratched the surface....
Brian
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:00 PM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com>wrote:
Well noted Brian, though as Adam notes, fiber is the future. Orange is laying a good amount of Fiber now.
We need Orange Leadership to offer (Shared) Business Internet @ 5K (5Mbs) to 10K (10Mbs)
Caps if they must exist - 200GB for the 5K offer..... 500GB for the 10K offer.
Of course they need prompt to respond, precise/accurate customer service.
Blessings
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
Sorry Adam but I beg to differ.
1) You cannot compare the US copper plant with the Kenyan copper plant 2) One of the most valuable components of a copper plant is the right of way (wayleave) 3) TKL also owns/controls 40% of the TEAMS fiber optic cable 4) TKL has management rights for the National fibre backbone - NOFBI 5) TKL owns real estate in every county, district and sub-location in the country (it's branches and exchanges) 6) TKL holds a "basket" of licenses,along with frequencies that would arouse any telco in the world
Best regards,
Brian
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Since when was a landline company a 'crown jewel'. It's 2013 and that company should just be left to fall apart on its own.
In the US, only 1 in 4 households will have a traditional landline by the end of the year:
http://www.salon.com/2013/07/09/telephone_companies_abandon_copper_phone_lin...
I presume the Kenyan rate is far below that but it seems like the focus should be on fiber and LTE and not worrying about dinosaurs like Kenya Telekom
-Adam -- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com>wrote:
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I feel it's time Orange ate the humble pie. This wars with government are just distracting the company and they now also look like the company is fighting with patriotism by extension.
Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet talk GoK for tax and other incentives rather than arm twist it?
Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ali Hussein Sent: =E2=80=8E29/=E2=80=8E08/=E2=80=8E2013 08:12 To: Dennis Kioko Mbuvi Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] CCK Denies being involved in Telkom Kenya/France Telecom saga Listers
In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning and threat of punitive action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what it calls 'unprocedural' transfer of shares.
In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right thing. Lets go one step further:-
The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed experiment and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' back to the Kenyan People.
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost= ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html<http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost=ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html>
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*CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd*
*Partner, Telemedia Africa Ltd *
Tel: +254713601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
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My sentiments exactly. High quality fiber is the foundation of the Internet economy in Kenya and 1K per Mb is fine by global standards - there just needs to be more availability: * This solution won't help everybody * This solution won't help the poor * This solution won't help the rural * This solution will empower the 1% of serious technology people in the main cities to create businesses and develop global-calibre skills ... and those businesses will be the bedrock that supports the three points above. BTW, JTL Faiba offers fiber for those prices and it's very high quality with no caps as far as I can tell. -- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:00 PM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com>wrote:
Well noted Brian, though as Adam notes, fiber is the future. Orange is laying a good amount of Fiber now.
We need Orange Leadership to offer (Shared) Business Internet @ 5K (5Mbs) to 10K (10Mbs)
Caps if they must exist - 200GB for the 5K offer..... 500GB for the 10K offer.
Of course they need prompt to respond, precise/accurate customer service.
Blessings
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
Sorry Adam but I beg to differ.
1) You cannot compare the US copper plant with the Kenyan copper plant 2) One of the most valuable components of a copper plant is the right of way (wayleave) 3) TKL also owns/controls 40% of the TEAMS fiber optic cable 4) TKL has management rights for the National fibre backbone - NOFBI 5) TKL owns real estate in every county, district and sub-location in the country (it's branches and exchanges) 6) TKL holds a "basket" of licenses,along with frequencies that would arouse any telco in the world
Best regards,
Brian
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Since when was a landline company a 'crown jewel'. It's 2013 and that company should just be left to fall apart on its own.
In the US, only 1 in 4 households will have a traditional landline by the end of the year:
http://www.salon.com/2013/07/09/telephone_companies_abandon_copper_phone_lin...
I presume the Kenyan rate is far below that but it seems like the focus should be on fiber and LTE and not worrying about dinosaurs like Kenya Telekom
-Adam -- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
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I feel it's time Orange ate the humble pie. This wars with government are just distracting the company and they now also look like the company is fighting with patriotism by extension.
Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet talk GoK for tax and other incentives rather than arm twist it?
Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ali Hussein Sent: =E2=80=8E29/=E2=80=8E08/=E2=80=8E2013 08:12 To: Dennis Kioko Mbuvi Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] CCK Denies being involved in Telkom Kenya/France Telecom saga Listers
In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning and threat of punitive action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what it calls 'unprocedural' transfer of shares.
In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right thing. Lets go one step further:-
The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed experiment and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' back to the Kenyan People.
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost= ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html<http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost=ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html>
* *
*Ali Hussein*
*CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd*
*Partner, Telemedia Africa Ltd *
Tel: +254713601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<; http://ke.linkedin.com/in/al= ihkassim>
Blog: www.alyhussein.com
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
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<HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" http-equiv=3DContent-Type></HE= AD> <BODY> <DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif">I feel it's= time Orange ate the humble pie. This wars with government are just distrac= ting the company and they now also look like the company is fighting with p= atriotism by extension. <BR><BR>Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet talk Go= K for tax and other incentives rather than arm twist it? <BR><BR>Sent from = my Windows Phone</DIV></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr> <HR> <SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGH= T: bold">From: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,= sans-serif"><A href=3D"mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">Ali Hussein</A></SPAN><BR>= <SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGH= T: bold">Sent: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,= sans-serif">=E2=80=8E29/=E2=80=8E08/=E2=80=8E2013 08:12</SPAN><BR><SPAN sty= le=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">= To: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif"= style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: bo= ld">Cc: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-se= rif"><A href=3D"mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">KICTAnet ICT Policy D= iscussions</A></SPAN><BR><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calib= ri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE:= 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif">[kictanet] CCK Denies being involve= d in Telkom Kenya/France Telecom saga</SPAN><BR><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML><di= v dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:georgia,ser= if">Listers<br><br>In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning and thr= eat of punitive action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what it calls= 'unprocedural' transfer of shares.<br> <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif">= In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right thing. Lets= go one step further:-<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f= ont-family:georgia,serif"> The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed experiment= and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' back to th= e Kenyan People.<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa= mily:georgia,serif"> <br><a href=3D" http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+pen= alties+for+costly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html<http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+pen=alties+for+costly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html> ">http://w=
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JTL Faiba does not have the 5K offer -- that is where the competition will beat them + it is a domestic service -- not offered to commercial buildings/premises - from what a sales/service rep told me early this year. Blessings Murigi / Stanley Muraya *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32* On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
My sentiments exactly. High quality fiber is the foundation of the Internet economy in Kenya and 1K per Mb is fine by global standards - there just needs to be more availability:
* This solution won't help everybody * This solution won't help the poor * This solution won't help the rural * This solution will empower the 1% of serious technology people in the main cities to create businesses and develop global-calibre skills ... and those businesses will be the bedrock that supports the three points above.
BTW, JTL Faiba offers fiber for those prices and it's very high quality with no caps as far as I can tell.
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:00 PM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com>wrote:
Well noted Brian, though as Adam notes, fiber is the future. Orange is laying a good amount of Fiber now.
We need Orange Leadership to offer (Shared) Business Internet @ 5K (5Mbs) to 10K (10Mbs)
Caps if they must exist - 200GB for the 5K offer..... 500GB for the 10K offer.
Of course they need prompt to respond, precise/accurate customer service.
Blessings
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
Sorry Adam but I beg to differ.
1) You cannot compare the US copper plant with the Kenyan copper plant 2) One of the most valuable components of a copper plant is the right of way (wayleave) 3) TKL also owns/controls 40% of the TEAMS fiber optic cable 4) TKL has management rights for the National fibre backbone - NOFBI 5) TKL owns real estate in every county, district and sub-location in the country (it's branches and exchanges) 6) TKL holds a "basket" of licenses,along with frequencies that would arouse any telco in the world
Best regards,
Brian
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Since when was a landline company a 'crown jewel'. It's 2013 and that company should just be left to fall apart on its own.
In the US, only 1 in 4 households will have a traditional landline by the end of the year:
http://www.salon.com/2013/07/09/telephone_companies_abandon_copper_phone_lin...
I presume the Kenyan rate is far below that but it seems like the focus should be on fiber and LTE and not worrying about dinosaurs like Kenya Telekom
-Adam -- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
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I feel it's time Orange ate the humble pie. This wars with government are just distracting the company and they now also look like the company is fighting with patriotism by extension.
Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet talk GoK for tax and other incentives rather than arm twist it?
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In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning and threat of punitive action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what it calls 'unprocedural' transfer of shares.
In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right thing. Lets go one step further:-
The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed experiment and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' back to the Kenyan People.
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Somebody told me that if you call them up, they'll give you the 5k for 5Mb rate as long as you still pay the setup cost. It's annoying that they won't connect to commercial premises though. -- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:17 PM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com>wrote:
JTL Faiba does not have the 5K offer -- that is where the competition will beat them + it is a domestic service -- not offered to commercial buildings/premises - from what a sales/service rep told me early this year.
Blessings
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
My sentiments exactly. High quality fiber is the foundation of the Internet economy in Kenya and 1K per Mb is fine by global standards - there just needs to be more availability:
* This solution won't help everybody * This solution won't help the poor * This solution won't help the rural * This solution will empower the 1% of serious technology people in the main cities to create businesses and develop global-calibre skills ... and those businesses will be the bedrock that supports the three points above.
BTW, JTL Faiba offers fiber for those prices and it's very high quality with no caps as far as I can tell.
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:00 PM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com>wrote:
Well noted Brian, though as Adam notes, fiber is the future. Orange is laying a good amount of Fiber now.
We need Orange Leadership to offer (Shared) Business Internet @ 5K (5Mbs) to 10K (10Mbs)
Caps if they must exist - 200GB for the 5K offer..... 500GB for the 10K offer.
Of course they need prompt to respond, precise/accurate customer service.
Blessings
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com
wrote:
Sorry Adam but I beg to differ.
1) You cannot compare the US copper plant with the Kenyan copper plant 2) One of the most valuable components of a copper plant is the right of way (wayleave) 3) TKL also owns/controls 40% of the TEAMS fiber optic cable 4) TKL has management rights for the National fibre backbone - NOFBI 5) TKL owns real estate in every county, district and sub-location in the country (it's branches and exchanges) 6) TKL holds a "basket" of licenses,along with frequencies that would arouse any telco in the world
Best regards,
Brian
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Since when was a landline company a 'crown jewel'. It's 2013 and that company should just be left to fall apart on its own.
In the US, only 1 in 4 households will have a traditional landline by the end of the year:
http://www.salon.com/2013/07/09/telephone_companies_abandon_copper_phone_lin...
I presume the Kenyan rate is far below that but it seems like the focus should be on fiber and LTE and not worrying about dinosaurs like Kenya Telekom
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On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com>wrote:
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I feel it's time Orange ate the humble pie. This wars with government are just distracting the company and they now also look like the company is fighting with patriotism by extension.
Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet talk GoK for tax and other incentives rather than arm twist it?
Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ali Hussein Sent: =E2=80=8E29/=E2=80=8E08/=E2=80=8E2013 08:12 To: Dennis Kioko Mbuvi Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] CCK Denies being involved in Telkom Kenya/France Telecom saga Listers
In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning and threat of punitive action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what it calls 'unprocedural' transfer of shares.
In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right thing. Lets go one step further:-
The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed experiment and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' back to the Kenyan People.
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost= ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html<http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost=ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html>
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Yes, they have. I know several pple using the 5K for 5Mbps. On 29 August 2013 10:17, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com> wrote:
JTL Faiba does not have the 5K offer -- that is where the competition will beat them + it is a domestic service -- not offered to commercial buildings/premises - from what a sales/service rep told me early this year.
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On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
My sentiments exactly. High quality fiber is the foundation of the Internet economy in Kenya and 1K per Mb is fine by global standards - there just needs to be more availability:
* This solution won't help everybody * This solution won't help the poor * This solution won't help the rural * This solution will empower the 1% of serious technology people in the main cities to create businesses and develop global-calibre skills ... and those businesses will be the bedrock that supports the three points above.
BTW, JTL Faiba offers fiber for those prices and it's very high quality with no caps as far as I can tell.
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On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:00 PM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com>wrote:
Well noted Brian, though as Adam notes, fiber is the future. Orange is laying a good amount of Fiber now.
We need Orange Leadership to offer (Shared) Business Internet @ 5K (5Mbs) to 10K (10Mbs)
Caps if they must exist - 200GB for the 5K offer..... 500GB for the 10K offer.
Of course they need prompt to respond, precise/accurate customer service.
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On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com
wrote:
Sorry Adam but I beg to differ.
1) You cannot compare the US copper plant with the Kenyan copper plant 2) One of the most valuable components of a copper plant is the right of way (wayleave) 3) TKL also owns/controls 40% of the TEAMS fiber optic cable 4) TKL has management rights for the National fibre backbone - NOFBI 5) TKL owns real estate in every county, district and sub-location in the country (it's branches and exchanges) 6) TKL holds a "basket" of licenses,along with frequencies that would arouse any telco in the world
Best regards,
Brian
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Since when was a landline company a 'crown jewel'. It's 2013 and that company should just be left to fall apart on its own.
In the US, only 1 in 4 households will have a traditional landline by the end of the year:
http://www.salon.com/2013/07/09/telephone_companies_abandon_copper_phone_lin...
I presume the Kenyan rate is far below that but it seems like the focus should be on fiber and LTE and not worrying about dinosaurs like Kenya Telekom
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On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com>wrote:
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I feel it's time Orange ate the humble pie. This wars with government are just distracting the company and they now also look like the company is fighting with patriotism by extension.
Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet talk GoK for tax and other incentives rather than arm twist it?
Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ali Hussein Sent: =E2=80=8E29/=E2=80=8E08/=E2=80=8E2013 08:12 To: Dennis Kioko Mbuvi Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] CCK Denies being involved in Telkom Kenya/France Telecom saga Listers
In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning and threat of punitive action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what it calls 'unprocedural' transfer of shares.
In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right thing. Lets go one step further:-
The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed experiment and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' back to the Kenyan People.
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost= ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html<http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost=ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html>
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-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
Also, for future reference, France Telecom no longer exists: http://www.orange.com/en/group/France-Telecom-becomes-Orange I guess the newspapers need to catch up with these press releases :-) -- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Yes, they have.
I know several pple using the 5K for 5Mbps.
On 29 August 2013 10:17, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com> wrote:
JTL Faiba does not have the 5K offer -- that is where the competition will beat them + it is a domestic service -- not offered to commercial buildings/premises - from what a sales/service rep told me early this year.
Blessings
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
My sentiments exactly. High quality fiber is the foundation of the Internet economy in Kenya and 1K per Mb is fine by global standards - there just needs to be more availability:
* This solution won't help everybody * This solution won't help the poor * This solution won't help the rural * This solution will empower the 1% of serious technology people in the main cities to create businesses and develop global-calibre skills ... and those businesses will be the bedrock that supports the three points above.
BTW, JTL Faiba offers fiber for those prices and it's very high quality with no caps as far as I can tell.
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:00 PM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com>wrote:
Well noted Brian, though as Adam notes, fiber is the future. Orange is laying a good amount of Fiber now.
We need Orange Leadership to offer (Shared) Business Internet @ 5K (5Mbs) to 10K (10Mbs)
Caps if they must exist - 200GB for the 5K offer..... 500GB for the 10K offer.
Of course they need prompt to respond, precise/accurate customer service.
Blessings
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe < blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry Adam but I beg to differ.
1) You cannot compare the US copper plant with the Kenyan copper plant 2) One of the most valuable components of a copper plant is the right of way (wayleave) 3) TKL also owns/controls 40% of the TEAMS fiber optic cable 4) TKL has management rights for the National fibre backbone - NOFBI 5) TKL owns real estate in every county, district and sub-location in the country (it's branches and exchanges) 6) TKL holds a "basket" of licenses,along with frequencies that would arouse any telco in the world
Best regards,
Brian
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Since when was a landline company a 'crown jewel'. It's 2013 and that company should just be left to fall apart on its own.
In the US, only 1 in 4 households will have a traditional landline by the end of the year:
http://www.salon.com/2013/07/09/telephone_companies_abandon_copper_phone_lin...
I presume the Kenyan rate is far below that but it seems like the focus should be on fiber and LTE and not worrying about dinosaurs like Kenya Telekom
-Adam -- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com>wrote:
> Telecom saga > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1942899757==" > > --===============1942899757== > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary=e89a8ff25178edaeec04e50f2353 > > --e89a8ff25178edaeec04e50f2353 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > I feel it's time Orange ate the humble pie. This wars with government > are just distracting the company and they now also look like the > company is fighting with patriotism by extension. > > Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet talk GoK for tax and other > incentives rather than arm twist it? > > Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ali Hussein > Sent: =E2=80=8E29/=E2=80=8E08/=E2=80=8E2013 08:12 > To: Dennis Kioko Mbuvi > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Subject: [kictanet] CCK Denies being involved in Telkom Kenya/France > Telecom saga > Listers > > In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning and threat of > punitive > action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what it calls > 'unprocedural' > transfer of shares. > > In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right > thing. Lets > go one step further:- > > The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed > experiment > and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' back to the > Kenyan > People. > > > > http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost= > ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html<http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost=ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html> > > * > * > > *Ali Hussein* > > *CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd* > > *Partner, Telemedia Africa Ltd > * > > > > Tel: +254713601113 > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > Skype: abu-jomo > > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<; > http://ke.linkedin.com/in/al= > ihkassim> > > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > > Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are > purely > mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the > organizations that I work with. > > --e89a8ff25178edaeec04e50f2353 > Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > <HTML><HEAD> > <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" > http-equiv=3DContent-Type></HE= > AD> > <BODY> > <DIV> > <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif">I > feel it's= > time Orange ate the humble pie. This wars with government are just > distrac= > ting the company and they now also look like the company is fighting > with p= > atriotism by extension. <BR><BR>Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet > talk Go= > K for tax and other incentives rather than arm twist it? > <BR><BR>Sent from = > my Windows Phone</DIV></DIV> > <DIV dir=3Dltr> > <HR> > <SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; > FONT-WEIGH= > T: bold">From: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: > Calibri,= > sans-serif"><A href=3D"mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">Ali > Hussein</A></SPAN><BR>= > <SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; > FONT-WEIGH= > T: bold">Sent: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: > Calibri,= > sans-serif">=E2=80=8E29/=E2=80=8E08/=E2=80=8E2013 > 08:12</SPAN><BR><SPAN sty= > le=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: > bold">= > To: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: > Calibri,sans-serif"= > ><A href=3D"mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com">Dennis Kioko > Mbuvi</A></SPAN><BR><SPAN= > style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; > FONT-WEIGHT: bo= > ld">Cc: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: > Calibri,sans-se= > rif"><A href=3D"mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">KICTAnet ICT > Policy D= > iscussions</A></SPAN><BR><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; > FONT-FAMILY: Calib= > ri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: </SPAN><SPAN > style=3D"FONT-SIZE:= > 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif">[kictanet] CCK Denies being > involve= > d in Telkom Kenya/France Telecom > saga</SPAN><BR><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML><di= > v dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" > style=3D"font-family:georgia,ser= > if">Listers<br><br>In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning > and thr= > eat of punitive action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what > it calls= > 'unprocedural' transfer of shares.<br> > <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" > style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif">= > In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right > thing. Lets= > go one step further:-<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" > style=3D"f= > ont-family:georgia,serif"> > The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed > experiment= > and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' > back to th= > e Kenyan People.<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" > style=3D"font-fa= > mily:georgia,serif"> > <br><a href=3D" > http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+pen= > alties+for+costly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html<http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+pen=alties+for+costly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html> > ">http://w= > > ww.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+costly+share= > +deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html<http://ww.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+costly+share=+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html></a><br > clear=3D"all"> > </div><div><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font><b><span > style=3D"fon= > t-family:"Baskerville Old > Face","serif""><br></span></b= > ></font></p><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font><b><span > style=3D"fo= > nt-family:"Baskerville Old Face","serif"">Ali > Hussein</span></b></font></p><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in > 0.0001pt"><font><b>= > <span style=3D"font-family:"Baskerville Old > Face","serif&quo= > t;">CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd</span></b></font></p><p > style=3D"margi= > n:0in 0in 0.0001pt"> > <font><b><span style=3D"font-family:"Baskerville Old > Face","= > serif""><b><span style=3D"font-family:"Baskerville Old > Face"= > ,"serif"">Partner, </span></b>Telemedia Africa > Ltd<br></span></b>= > </font></p> > <font> > > </font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in > 0.0001pt"><font>=C2=A0</font></p><p style= > =3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font><span > style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif= > "><span>T<font>el: > +25471360<font>1113</font></font><br></span></span></fon= > t></p> > <p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font><span > style=3D"font-family:georg= > ia,serif"><span>Twitter: > @AliHKassim</span><span></span></span></font></p><= > font><span style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif"> > > </span></font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font><span > style=3D"fon= > t-family:georgia,serif"><span>Skype: > abu-jomo</span></span></font></p><p st= > yle=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font><span > style=3D"font-family:georgia,se= > rif"><span>LinkedIn: <a href=3D"http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" > targe= > t=3D"_blank">http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim</a></span><a > href=3D"http= > ://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target=3D"_blank"><span > style=3D"color:wi= > ndowtext;text-decoration:none"></span></a></span></font></p> > <font><span style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif"></span></font><p > style=3D"m= > argin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"> > > </p><font><span style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif"><span>Blog: <a > href=3D"= > http://www.alyhussein.com" target=3D"_blank">www.alyhussein.com > </a><br><br>= > <br><font size=3D"1">Any information of a personal nature expressed > in this= > email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official > position= > s of the organizations that I work > with.</font></span></span></font><span s= > tyle=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old > Face","s= > erif""></span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"></span> > > <span style=3D"font-family:"Baskerville Old > Face","serif&quo= > t;"></span></div> > </div> > > --e89a8ff25178edaeec04e50f2353-- > > --===============1942899757== > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmbuvi%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder > platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT > policy and regulation. 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Adam Nelson -
Ali Hussein -
Brian Munyao Longwe -
Dennis Kioko -
Mark Mwangi -
Odhiambo Washington -
S.M. Muraya