Day 3 of Talk to the Senate (2017-2022 Priorities)
Dear Listers, Welome to the third and final day of the Talk to the Senate series. We have discussed at length the challenges facing the counties and made exciting proposals for a brighter future. We will culminate this discussion with an earnest look at how we can foster engagements between the ICT community and the legislature (think, effective public participation). The proposals we come up with could very easily be adopted into a Public Participation Bill that would dictate how counties are to conduct public participation, talk about killing two birds with one stone. Please indulge me in answering the following questions– (a) What constitutes effective public participation? (b) How can we leverage on ICT to achieve effective public participation? (c) Please give proposals on engagements you would like to see between the ICT community and the Senate ICT Committee. Let us finish strong!
Good morning Kanini, There is need for a proper framework that defines meaningful public participation which should be adhered to by the National and County government. KICTAnet developed a tool kit that should be considered by the Senate. At the very minimum the Senate should be providing feedback whenever it calls the public as it did last year during the elections amendment debate, honestly the wahehimiwas earn sitting allowances while the public spends their precious time to contribute to their work yet no feedback is provided. We need urgent feedback on the ICT policy, we also need feedback on the public participation exercise that culminated in the elections amendment act. I would also like to take this opportunity to applaud senator Halake for engaging stakeholders electronically through the KICTAnet mailing list, i think the senate can take advantage of mailing lists and Social Media to engage the public provided the engagement is well structured and based on a public participation framework. Best On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 9:10 AM, kanini mutemi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Listers,
Welome to the third and final day of the Talk to the Senate series. We have discussed at length the challenges facing the counties and made exciting proposals for a brighter future. We will culminate this discussion with an earnest look at how we can foster engagements between the ICT community and the legislature (think, effective public participation). The proposals we come up with could very easily be adopted into a Public Participation Bill that would dictate how counties are to conduct public participation, talk about killing two birds with one stone.
Please indulge me in answering the following questions–
(a) What constitutes effective public participation?
(b) How can we leverage on ICT to achieve effective public participation?
(c) Please give proposals on engagements you would like to see between the ICT community and the Senate ICT Committee.
Let us finish strong!
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Dear Kanini, I second Barack and extend his sentiments by alluding to my immediate comments on the Jadili platform. The public participation framework should include a component on how to use developments in legal informatics in guaranteeing public participation by the citizenry on decisions affecting them. If we can annotate bills at such granular levels as section/subsection/paragraph etc, a ready use case would be to crowdsource for comments and show which sections/amendments are most favoured and which aren't. That helps to hold legislators accountable and also to confront amendments that are sneaked into bills last minute. We have related case studies to avail while doing this - Kenya leads the continent and has one of the most progressive law reporting portals owing to joint efforts by the AG's office, the Kenya Law Reform Commission, the Africa i-Parliaments Action Plan, UN/DESA and Lexis Nexis. What that means is for instance that eKLR now incorporate the latest Legislative XML standards such as Akoma Ntoso which makes their open data way more beneficial to those harnessing and adding value to it e.g. in my research work. Kind regards, Robert On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 9:36 AM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Good morning Kanini,
There is need for a proper framework that defines meaningful public participation which should be adhered to by the National and County government. KICTAnet developed a tool kit that should be considered by the Senate. At the very minimum the Senate should be providing feedback whenever it calls the public as it did last year during the elections amendment debate, honestly the wahehimiwas earn sitting allowances while the public spends their precious time to contribute to their work yet no feedback is provided. We need urgent feedback on the ICT policy, we also need feedback on the public participation exercise that culminated in the elections amendment act.
I would also like to take this opportunity to applaud senator Halake for engaging stakeholders electronically through the KICTAnet mailing list, i think the senate can take advantage of mailing lists and Social Media to engage the public provided the engagement is well structured and based on a public participation framework.
Best
On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 9:10 AM, kanini mutemi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Listers,
Welome to the third and final day of the Talk to the Senate series. We have discussed at length the challenges facing the counties and made exciting proposals for a brighter future. We will culminate this discussion with an earnest look at how we can foster engagements between the ICT community and the legislature (think, effective public participation). The proposals we come up with could very easily be adopted into a Public Participation Bill that would dictate how counties are to conduct public participation, talk about killing two birds with one stone.
Please indulge me in answering the following questions–
(a) What constitutes effective public participation?
(b) How can we leverage on ICT to achieve effective public participation?
(c) Please give proposals on engagements you would like to see between the ICT community and the Senate ICT Committee.
Let us finish strong!
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@Robert, I have taken a look at Jadili and I must say this is impressive. http://jadili.ictpolicy.org/docs/the-computer-and-cybercrimes-bill,-2017 <http://jadili.ictpolicy.org/docs/the-computer-and-cybercrimes-bill,-2017> I see how this could even reduce the paper work involved in collecting public comment, collating these and preparing a public participation Memorandum. Live feedback and an indication of how many people support/oppose a Bill makes it even more useful.
On 7 Feb 2018, at 10:19, Robert Muthuri via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Kanini,
I second Barack and extend his sentiments by alluding to my immediate comments on the Jadili platform. The public participation framework should include a component on how to use developments in legal informatics in guaranteeing public participation by the citizenry on decisions affecting them. If we can annotate bills at such granular levels as section/subsection/paragraph etc, a ready use case would be to crowdsource for comments and show which sections/amendments are most favoured and which aren't. That helps to hold legislators accountable and also to confront amendments that are sneaked into bills last minute.
We have related case studies to avail while doing this - Kenya leads the continent and has one of the most progressive law reporting portals owing to joint efforts by the AG's office, the Kenya Law Reform Commission, the Africa i-Parliaments Action Plan, UN/DESA and Lexis Nexis. What that means is for instance that eKLR now incorporate the latest Legislative XML standards such as Akoma Ntoso which makes their open data way more beneficial to those harnessing and adding value to it e.g. in my research work.
Kind regards, Robert
On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 9:36 AM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Good morning Kanini,
There is need for a proper framework that defines meaningful public participation which should be adhered to by the National and County government. KICTAnet developed a tool kit that should be considered by the Senate. At the very minimum the Senate should be providing feedback whenever it calls the public as it did last year during the elections amendment debate, honestly the wahehimiwas earn sitting allowances while the public spends their precious time to contribute to their work yet no feedback is provided. We need urgent feedback on the ICT policy, we also need feedback on the public participation exercise that culminated in the elections amendment act.
I would also like to take this opportunity to applaud senator Halake for engaging stakeholders electronically through the KICTAnet mailing list, i think the senate can take advantage of mailing lists and Social Media to engage the public provided the engagement is well structured and based on a public participation framework.
Best
On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 9:10 AM, kanini mutemi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Dear Listers,
Welome to the third and final day of the Talk to the Senate series. We have discussed at length the challenges facing the counties and made exciting proposals for a brighter future. We will culminate this discussion with an earnest look at how we can foster engagements between the ICT community and the legislature (think, effective public participation). The proposals we come up with could very easily be adopted into a Public Participation Bill that would dictate how counties are to conduct public participation, talk about killing two birds with one stone.
Please indulge me in answering the following questions–
(a) What constitutes effective public participation?
(b) How can we leverage on ICT to achieve effective public participation?
(c) Please give proposals on engagements you would like to see between the ICT community and the Senate ICT Committee.
Let us finish strong!
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Kanini, FYI- The Kenya Association of Manufacturers has been helping some counties to try this (via a website etc) but there's need to boost these efforts: Integrate public participation into county procedures: https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/eblog/2015/04/02/integrate-public-participation-... -- Best Regards, Ephraim Percy Kenyanito Legal Researcher/ Policy Analyst Website: https://ephraimkenyanito.com/ Twitter: @ekenyanito <https://twitter.com/ekenyanito> PGP Fingerprint: B0FA394AF73DEB7AA1FDC7360CFED26DE6BA8DC1 On 07/02/18 09:36, Barrack Otieno via kictanet wrote:
Good morning Kanini,
There is need for a proper framework that defines meaningful public participation which should be adhered to by the National and County government. KICTAnet developed a tool kit that should be considered by the Senate. At the very minimum the Senate should be providing feedback whenever it calls the public as it did last year during the elections amendment debate, honestly the wahehimiwas earn sitting allowances while the public spends their precious time to contribute to their work yet no feedback is provided. We need urgent feedback on the ICT policy, we also need feedback on the public participation exercise that culminated in the elections amendment act.
I would also like to take this opportunity to applaud senator Halake for engaging stakeholders electronically through the KICTAnet mailing list, i think the senate can take advantage of mailing lists and Social Media to engage the public provided the engagement is well structured and based on a public participation framework.
Best
On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 9:10 AM, kanini mutemi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
Dear Listers,
Welome to the third and final day of the Talk to the Senate series. We have discussed at length the challenges facing the counties and made exciting proposals for a brighter future. We will culminate this discussion with an earnest look at how we can foster engagements between the ICT community and the legislature (think, effective public participation). The proposals we come up with could very easily be adopted into a Public Participation Bill that would dictate how counties are to conduct public participation, talk about killing two birds with one stone.
Please indulge me in answering the following questions–
(a) What constitutes effective public participation?
(b) How can we leverage on ICT to achieve effective public participation?
(c) Please give proposals on engagements you would like to see between the ICT community and the Senate ICT Committee.
Let us finish strong!
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Kanini,
FYI- The Kenya Association of Manufacturers has been helping some counties to try this (via a website etc) but there's need to boost these efforts: Integrate public participation into county procedures: https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/eblog/2015/04/02/integrate-public-participation-...
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Best Regards,
Ephraim Percy Kenyanito Legal Researcher/ Policy Analyst Website: https://ephraimkenyanito.com/ Twitter: @ekenyanito PGP Fingerprint: B0FA394AF73DEB7AA1FDC7360CFED26DE6BA8DC1 On 07/02/18 09:36, Barrack Otieno via kictanet wrote:
Good morning Kanini,
There is need for a proper framework that defines meaningful public
Public Participation in Practice (Ward level to National level) Jadili, County CRMs are great ways and go ahead of policy. Let us work with how participation has been put into practice by FixMyWard.org WARD LEVEL Residents engaged with relevant departments and official or organised for advocacy - http://www.fixmyward.org/blog/2015/09/23/public-participation-takes-shape-in... COUNTY LEVEL Making contributions via Memoranda to the Assembly on the "Nairobi City County Community and Neigbourhood Associations Engagement Bill, 2015" Read the report here: http://nairobiassembly.go.ke/reports/planning/COMMUNITY%2520AND%2520NEIGHBOU... NATIONAL LEVEL ICT as platforms for participation as recommended in the National ICT Policy https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=925519514226405&substory_index=0&id=682443918533967 On Wednesday, February 7, 2018, Ephraim Percy Kenyanito via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: participation which should be adhered to by the National and County government. KICTAnet developed a tool kit that should be considered by the Senate. At the very minimum the Senate should be providing feedback whenever it calls the public as it did last year during the elections amendment debate, honestly the wahehimiwas earn sitting allowances while the public spends their precious time to contribute to their work yet no feedback is provided. We need urgent feedback on the ICT policy, we also need feedback on the public participation exercise that culminated in the elections amendment act.
I would also like to take this opportunity to applaud senator Halake for
engaging stakeholders electronically through the KICTAnet mailing list, i think the senate can take advantage of mailing lists and Social Media to engage the public provided the engagement is well structured and based on a public participation framework.
Best
On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 9:10 AM, kanini mutemi via kictanet <
Dear Listers, Welome to the third and final day of the Talk to the Senate series. We
have discussed at length the challenges facing the counties and made exciting proposals for a brighter future. We will culminate this discussion with an earnest look at how we can foster engagements between the ICT community and the legislature (think, effective public participation). The
Please indulge me in answering the following questions–
(a) What constitutes effective public participation? (b) How can we leverage on ICT to achieve effective public participation? (c) Please give proposals on engagements you would like to see between
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: proposals we come up with could very easily be adopted into a Public Participation Bill that would dictate how counties are to conduct public participation, talk about killing two birds with one stone. the ICT community and the Senate ICT Committee.
Let us finish strong!
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@Ephraim would you have details on how far KAM has come on this- would make for a good case study. @Walu you are not yet late to the party. Your comments will be added to the Day 1 discussion.
On 7 Feb 2018, at 12:37, Ephraim Percy Kenyanito via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Kanini,
FYI- The Kenya Association of Manufacturers has been helping some counties to try this (via a website etc) but there's need to boost these efforts: Integrate public participation into county procedures: https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/eblog/2015/04/02/integrate-public-participation-... <https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/eblog/2015/04/02/integrate-public-participation-into-county-procedures/>
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Best Regards,
Ephraim Percy Kenyanito Legal Researcher/ Policy Analyst Website: https://ephraimkenyanito.com/ <https://ephraimkenyanito.com/> Twitter: @ekenyanito <https://twitter.com/ekenyanito>PGP Fingerprint: B0FA394AF73DEB7AA1FDC7360CFED26DE6BA8DC1 On 07/02/18 09:36, Barrack Otieno via kictanet wrote:
Good morning Kanini,
There is need for a proper framework that defines meaningful public participation which should be adhered to by the National and County government. KICTAnet developed a tool kit that should be considered by the Senate. At the very minimum the Senate should be providing feedback whenever it calls the public as it did last year during the elections amendment debate, honestly the wahehimiwas earn sitting allowances while the public spends their precious time to contribute to their work yet no feedback is provided. We need urgent feedback on the ICT policy, we also need feedback on the public participation exercise that culminated in the elections amendment act.
I would also like to take this opportunity to applaud senator Halake for engaging stakeholders electronically through the KICTAnet mailing list, i think the senate can take advantage of mailing lists and Social Media to engage the public provided the engagement is well structured and based on a public participation framework.
Best
On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 9:10 AM, kanini mutemi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Dear Listers,
Welome to the third and final day of the Talk to the Senate series. We have discussed at length the challenges facing the counties and made exciting proposals for a brighter future. We will culminate this discussion with an earnest look at how we can foster engagements between the ICT community and the legislature (think, effective public participation). The proposals we come up with could very easily be adopted into a Public Participation Bill that would dictate how counties are to conduct public participation, talk about killing two birds with one stone.
Please indulge me in answering the following questions–
(a) What constitutes effective public participation?
(b) How can we leverage on ICT to achieve effective public participation?
(c) Please give proposals on engagements you would like to see between the ICT community and the Senate ICT Committee.
Let us finish strong!
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Kanini, On top of the great suggestions for counties, Senate ICT Committee should champion use of ICTs for public participation even at Parliament. I noticed that for example, most of the time we are discussing a Bill, we are never sure of the version and Bunge does not post the same Bill/links on its site. Going beyond participation is feedback. We contribute our input but never know whether it was of any use. Why cant committee reports be uploaded regularly? Why can't our submissions be published so that anyone who ever wants to learn about the issue can see the issues behind the issue? Would it be possible to let the public follow the life of a Bill they have interest in online as it moves through the House? Do committees have public communication channels? It would be nice to follow the ICT Committee on social media to learn its agenda etc. Such information would somehow trickle to radio, newspapers and other media and hopefully contribute to diversifying local content. On public information, I notice that both Houses have a tv channel. But the channels go blank when Houses are not in session? Can Senate use the non live broadcasting time to show committee sessions or educate the public on the many aspects of the legislature? Wishing the committee all the best, On 7 Feb 2018 06:00, "kanini mutemi via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Ephraim would you have details on how far KAM has come on this- would make for a good case study.
@Walu you are not yet late to the party. Your comments will be added to the Day 1 discussion.
On 7 Feb 2018, at 12:37, Ephraim Percy Kenyanito via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Kanini,
FYI- The Kenya Association of Manufacturers has been helping some counties to try this (via a website etc) but there's need to boost these efforts: Integrate public participation into county procedures: https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/eblog/2015/04/02/integrate- public-participation-into-county-procedures/
--
Best Regards, Ephraim Percy Kenyanito Legal Researcher/ Policy Analyst Website: https://ephraimkenyanito.com/ Twitter: @ekenyanito <https://twitter.com/ekenyanito> PGP Fingerprint: B0FA394AF73DEB7AA1FDC7360CFED26DE6BA8DC1 On 07/02/18 09:36, Barrack Otieno via kictanet wrote:
Good morning Kanini,
There is need for a proper framework that defines meaningful public participation which should be adhered to by the National and County government. KICTAnet developed a tool kit that should be considered by the Senate. At the very minimum the Senate should be providing feedback whenever it calls the public as it did last year during the elections amendment debate, honestly the wahehimiwas earn sitting allowances while the public spends their precious time to contribute to their work yet no feedback is provided. We need urgent feedback on the ICT policy, we also need feedback on the public participation exercise that culminated in the elections amendment act.
I would also like to take this opportunity to applaud senator Halake for engaging stakeholders electronically through the KICTAnet mailing list, i think the senate can take advantage of mailing lists and Social Media to engage the public provided the engagement is well structured and based on a public participation framework.
Best
On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 9:10 AM, kanini mutemi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Listers,
Welome to the third and final day of the Talk to the Senate series. We have discussed at length the challenges facing the counties and made exciting proposals for a brighter future. We will culminate this discussion with an earnest look at how we can foster engagements between the ICT community and the legislature (think, effective public participation). The proposals we come up with could very easily be adopted into a Public Participation Bill that would dictate how counties are to conduct public participation, talk about killing two birds with one stone.
Please indulge me in answering the following questions–
(a) What constitutes effective public participation?
(b) How can we leverage on ICT to achieve effective public participation?
(c) Please give proposals on engagements you would like to see between the ICT community and the Senate ICT Committee.
Let us finish strong!
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I agree with Grace that there should be a tracking tool for bills, programs and projects. Is there a mechanism for the recording of the public participation sessions? Could be uploaded on relevant You Tube channels and websites. A good feature could also be the introduction of a feature to allow upvoting of items /engagement without necessarily having everyone attend the town halls. Kenyans are engaged in civic affairs as long as it is not participation vs their other activities ....an E-participation platform across different governance levels could enhance the participation of youths and locals who have moved from the area. On Feb 7, 2018 2:49 PM, "Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Kanini, On top of the great suggestions for counties, Senate ICT Committee should champion use of ICTs for public participation even at Parliament. I noticed that for example, most of the time we are discussing a Bill, we are never sure of the version and Bunge does not post the same Bill/links on its site. Going beyond participation is feedback. We contribute our input but never know whether it was of any use. Why cant committee reports be uploaded regularly? Why can't our submissions be published so that anyone who ever wants to learn about the issue can see the issues behind the issue? Would it be possible to let the public follow the life of a Bill they have interest in online as it moves through the House? Do committees have public communication channels? It would be nice to follow the ICT Committee on social media to learn its agenda etc. Such information would somehow trickle to radio, newspapers and other media and hopefully contribute to diversifying local content. On public information, I notice that both Houses have a tv channel. But the channels go blank when Houses are not in session? Can Senate use the non live broadcasting time to show committee sessions or educate the public on the many aspects of the legislature?
Wishing the committee all the best,
On 7 Feb 2018 06:00, "kanini mutemi via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Ephraim would you have details on how far KAM has come on this- would make for a good case study.
@Walu you are not yet late to the party. Your comments will be added to the Day 1 discussion.
On 7 Feb 2018, at 12:37, Ephraim Percy Kenyanito via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Kanini,
FYI- The Kenya Association of Manufacturers has been helping some counties to try this (via a website etc) but there's need to boost these efforts: Integrate public participation into county procedures: https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/eblog/2015/04/02/integrate-publi c-participation-into-county-procedures/
--
Best Regards, Ephraim Percy Kenyanito Legal Researcher/ Policy Analyst Website: https://ephraimkenyanito.com/ Twitter: @ekenyanito <https://twitter.com/ekenyanito> PGP Fingerprint: B0FA394AF73DEB7AA1FDC7360CFED26DE6BA8DC1 On 07/02/18 09:36, Barrack Otieno via kictanet wrote:
Good morning Kanini,
There is need for a proper framework that defines meaningful public participation which should be adhered to by the National and County government. KICTAnet developed a tool kit that should be considered by the Senate. At the very minimum the Senate should be providing feedback whenever it calls the public as it did last year during the elections amendment debate, honestly the wahehimiwas earn sitting allowances while the public spends their precious time to contribute to their work yet no feedback is provided. We need urgent feedback on the ICT policy, we also need feedback on the public participation exercise that culminated in the elections amendment act.
I would also like to take this opportunity to applaud senator Halake for engaging stakeholders electronically through the KICTAnet mailing list, i think the senate can take advantage of mailing lists and Social Media to engage the public provided the engagement is well structured and based on a public participation framework.
Best
On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 9:10 AM, kanini mutemi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Listers,
Welome to the third and final day of the Talk to the Senate series. We have discussed at length the challenges facing the counties and made exciting proposals for a brighter future. We will culminate this discussion with an earnest look at how we can foster engagements between the ICT community and the legislature (think, effective public participation). The proposals we come up with could very easily be adopted into a Public Participation Bill that would dictate how counties are to conduct public participation, talk about killing two birds with one stone.
Please indulge me in answering the following questions–
(a) What constitutes effective public participation?
(b) How can we leverage on ICT to achieve effective public participation?
(c) Please give proposals on engagements you would like to see between the ICT community and the Senate ICT Committee.
Let us finish strong!
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Grace, This is my final contribution. It is about getting procurement right. Dealing with insider trading. Almost 20 years ago, a Senior technologist at Parliament sought competencies at the company I coordinated training for. Being smart (a general trait of a good CIO) he had assessed our team as possessing the competencies his team required. He was ignored and over 5 years later, a company associated with an MP got the work. It was not assessed us well done. Over the past 20 years our Transparency International rankings have not improved much. If we persist in transparency, over the next 20 years (a generational change), Kenya will end up on the better side, top 30, Transparency International rankings :) On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Kanini, On top of the great suggestions for counties, Senate ICT Committee should champion use of ICTs for public participation even at Parliament. I noticed that for example, most of the time we are discussing a Bill, we are never sure of the version and Bunge does not post the same Bill/links on its site. Going beyond participation is feedback. We contribute our input but never know whether it was of any use. Why cant committee reports be uploaded regularly? Why can't our submissions be published so that anyone who ever wants to learn about the issue can see the issues behind the issue? Would it be possible to let the public follow the life of a Bill they have interest in online as it moves through the House? Do committees have public communication channels? It would be nice to follow the ICT Committee on social media to learn its agenda etc. Such information would somehow trickle to radio, newspapers and other media and hopefully contribute to diversifying local content. On public information, I notice that both Houses have a tv channel. But the channels go blank when Houses are not in session? Can Senate use the non live broadcasting time to show committee sessions or educate the public on the many aspects of the legislature?
Wishing the committee all the best,
On 7 Feb 2018 06:00, "kanini mutemi via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Ephraim would you have details on how far KAM has come on this- would make for a good case study.
@Walu you are not yet late to the party. Your comments will be added to the Day 1 discussion.
On 7 Feb 2018, at 12:37, Ephraim Percy Kenyanito via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Kanini,
FYI- The Kenya Association of Manufacturers has been helping some counties to try this (via a website etc) but there's need to boost these efforts: Integrate public participation into county procedures: https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/eblog/2015/04/02/integrate-publi c-participation-into-county-procedures/
--
Best Regards, Ephraim Percy Kenyanito Legal Researcher/ Policy Analyst Website: https://ephraimkenyanito.com/ Twitter: @ekenyanito <https://twitter.com/ekenyanito> PGP Fingerprint: B0FA394AF73DEB7AA1FDC7360CFED26DE6BA8DC1 On 07/02/18 09:36, Barrack Otieno via kictanet wrote:
Good morning Kanini,
There is need for a proper framework that defines meaningful public participation which should be adhered to by the National and County government. KICTAnet developed a tool kit that should be considered by the Senate. At the very minimum the Senate should be providing feedback whenever it calls the public as it did last year during the elections amendment debate, honestly the wahehimiwas earn sitting allowances while the public spends their precious time to contribute to their work yet no feedback is provided. We need urgent feedback on the ICT policy, we also need feedback on the public participation exercise that culminated in the elections amendment act.
I would also like to take this opportunity to applaud senator Halake for engaging stakeholders electronically through the KICTAnet mailing list, i think the senate can take advantage of mailing lists and Social Media to engage the public provided the engagement is well structured and based on a public participation framework.
Best
On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 9:10 AM, kanini mutemi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Listers,
Welome to the third and final day of the Talk to the Senate series. We have discussed at length the challenges facing the counties and made exciting proposals for a brighter future. We will culminate this discussion with an earnest look at how we can foster engagements between the ICT community and the legislature (think, effective public participation). The proposals we come up with could very easily be adopted into a Public Participation Bill that would dictate how counties are to conduct public participation, talk about killing two birds with one stone.
Please indulge me in answering the following questions–
(a) What constitutes effective public participation?
(b) How can we leverage on ICT to achieve effective public participation?
(c) Please give proposals on engagements you would like to see between the ICT community and the Senate ICT Committee.
Let us finish strong!
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-- SMM *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
Asante @Muraya. Fix procurement. Foster transparency. Could it really be that simple? I believe so. @Bomu and @Jefferson I like that you throw back the challenge to the ICT Committee to lead by example! Any thoughts on question (c):
(c) Please give proposals on engagements you would like to see between the ICT community and the Senate ICT Committee.
On 7 Feb 2018, at 15:30, S.M. Muraya via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Grace,
This is my final contribution. It is about getting procurement right. Dealing with insider trading.
Almost 20 years ago, a Senior technologist at Parliament sought competencies at the company I coordinated training for. Being smart (a general trait of a good CIO) he had assessed our team as possessing the competencies his team required. He was ignored and over 5 years later, a company associated with an MP got the work. It was not assessed us well done.
Over the past 20 years our Transparency International rankings have not improved much.
If we persist in transparency, over the next 20 years (a generational change), Kenya will end up on the better side, top 30, Transparency International rankings :)
On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Kanini, On top of the great suggestions for counties, Senate ICT Committee should champion use of ICTs for public participation even at Parliament. I noticed that for example, most of the time we are discussing a Bill, we are never sure of the version and Bunge does not post the same Bill/links on its site. Going beyond participation is feedback. We contribute our input but never know whether it was of any use. Why cant committee reports be uploaded regularly? Why can't our submissions be published so that anyone who ever wants to learn about the issue can see the issues behind the issue? Would it be possible to let the public follow the life of a Bill they have interest in online as it moves through the House? Do committees have public communication channels? It would be nice to follow the ICT Committee on social media to learn its agenda etc. Such information would somehow trickle to radio, newspapers and other media and hopefully contribute to diversifying local content. On public information, I notice that both Houses have a tv channel. But the channels go blank when Houses are not in session? Can Senate use the non live broadcasting time to show committee sessions or educate the public on the many aspects of the legislature?
Wishing the committee all the best,
On 7 Feb 2018 06:00, "kanini mutemi via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: @Ephraim would you have details on how far KAM has come on this- would make for a good case study.
@Walu you are not yet late to the party. Your comments will be added to the Day 1 discussion.
On 7 Feb 2018, at 12:37, Ephraim Percy Kenyanito via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
Kanini,
FYI- The Kenya Association of Manufacturers has been helping some counties to try this (via a website etc) but there's need to boost these efforts: Integrate public participation into county procedures: https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/eblog/2015/04/02/integrate-public-participation-... <https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/eblog/2015/04/02/integrate-public-participation-into-county-procedures/>
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Ephraim Percy Kenyanito Legal Researcher/ Policy Analyst Website: https://ephraimkenyanito.com/ <https://ephraimkenyanito.com/> Twitter: @ekenyanito <https://twitter.com/ekenyanito>PGP Fingerprint: B0FA394AF73DEB7AA1FDC7360CFED26DE6BA8DC1 On 07/02/18 09:36, Barrack Otieno via kictanet wrote:
Good morning Kanini,
There is need for a proper framework that defines meaningful public participation which should be adhered to by the National and County government. KICTAnet developed a tool kit that should be considered by the Senate. At the very minimum the Senate should be providing feedback whenever it calls the public as it did last year during the elections amendment debate, honestly the wahehimiwas earn sitting allowances while the public spends their precious time to contribute to their work yet no feedback is provided. We need urgent feedback on the ICT policy, we also need feedback on the public participation exercise that culminated in the elections amendment act.
I would also like to take this opportunity to applaud senator Halake for engaging stakeholders electronically through the KICTAnet mailing list, i think the senate can take advantage of mailing lists and Social Media to engage the public provided the engagement is well structured and based on a public participation framework.
Best
On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 9:10 AM, kanini mutemi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Dear Listers,
Welome to the third and final day of the Talk to the Senate series. We have discussed at length the challenges facing the counties and made exciting proposals for a brighter future. We will culminate this discussion with an earnest look at how we can foster engagements between the ICT community and the legislature (think, effective public participation). The proposals we come up with could very easily be adopted into a Public Participation Bill that would dictate how counties are to conduct public participation, talk about killing two birds with one stone.
Please indulge me in answering the following questions–
(a) What constitutes effective public participation?
(b) How can we leverage on ICT to achieve effective public participation?
(c) Please give proposals on engagements you would like to see between the ICT community and the Senate ICT Committee.
Let us finish strong!
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On transparency, if this is not too much off-topic, there should be a portal detailing every single project expense for each county, with a breakdown of who the vendor is, how much they paid, project progress, project results etc. I am not aware of such a portal for Kenya yet I do not know why it has not been created yet. It is easy. The World Bank has this: http://projects.worldbank.org/P152394?lang=en , e.g. who won the tender to provide IT equipment for a health project in Kenya? Have a look here: http://projects.worldbank.org/procurement/noticeoverview?lang=en&id=OP00045294 Financial audits from each project, procurement notices etc This would not be hard to do (presumably linked with IFMIS) and with APIs it would also bring huge amounts of open data that can be analyzed and compared across counties. Senior Director, Public Affairs Huawei Southern Africa Mobile: +254-7909-85886 From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+adam.lane=huawei.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of kanini mutemi via kictanet Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 3:38 PM To: Adam Lane <adam.lane@huawei.com> Cc: kanini mutemi <kaninimutemi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 3 of Talk to the Senate (2017-2022 Priorities) Asante @Muraya. Fix procurement. Foster transparency. Could it really be that simple? I believe so. @Bomu and @Jefferson I like that you throw back the challenge to the ICT Committee to lead by example! Any thoughts on question (c): (c) Please give proposals on engagements you would like to see between the ICT community and the Senate ICT Committee. On 7 Feb 2018, at 15:30, S.M. Muraya via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Grace, This is my final contribution. It is about getting procurement right. Dealing with insider trading. Almost 20 years ago, a Senior technologist at Parliament sought competencies at the company I coordinated training for. Being smart (a general trait of a good CIO) he had assessed our team as possessing the competencies his team required. He was ignored and over 5 years later, a company associated with an MP got the work. It was not assessed us well done. Over the past 20 years our Transparency International rankings have not improved much. If we persist in transparency, over the next 20 years (a generational change), Kenya will end up on the better side, top 30, Transparency International rankings :) On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Kanini, On top of the great suggestions for counties, Senate ICT Committee should champion use of ICTs for public participation even at Parliament. I noticed that for example, most of the time we are discussing a Bill, we are never sure of the version and Bunge does not post the same Bill/links on its site. Going beyond participation is feedback. We contribute our input but never know whether it was of any use. Why cant committee reports be uploaded regularly? Why can't our submissions be published so that anyone who ever wants to learn about the issue can see the issues behind the issue? Would it be possible to let the public follow the life of a Bill they have interest in online as it moves through the House? Do committees have public communication channels? It would be nice to follow the ICT Committee on social media to learn its agenda etc. Such information would somehow trickle to radio, newspapers and other media and hopefully contribute to diversifying local content. On public information, I notice that both Houses have a tv channel. But the channels go blank when Houses are not in session? Can Senate use the non live broadcasting time to show committee sessions or educate the public on the many aspects of the legislature? Wishing the committee all the best, On 7 Feb 2018 06:00, "kanini mutemi via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: @Ephraim would you have details on how far KAM has come on this- would make for a good case study. @Walu you are not yet late to the party. Your comments will be added to the Day 1 discussion. On 7 Feb 2018, at 12:37, Ephraim Percy Kenyanito via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Kanini, FYI- The Kenya Association of Manufacturers has been helping some counties to try this (via a website etc) but there's need to boost these efforts: Integrate public participation into county procedures: https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/eblog/2015/04/02/integrate-public-participation-... -- Best Regards, Ephraim Percy Kenyanito Legal Researcher/ Policy Analyst Website: https://ephraimkenyanito.com/ Twitter: @ekenyanito<https://twitter.com/ekenyanito> PGP Fingerprint: B0FA394AF73DEB7AA1FDC7360CFED26DE6BA8DC1 On 07/02/18 09:36, Barrack Otieno via kictanet wrote: Good morning Kanini, There is need for a proper framework that defines meaningful public participation which should be adhered to by the National and County government. KICTAnet developed a tool kit that should be considered by the Senate. At the very minimum the Senate should be providing feedback whenever it calls the public as it did last year during the elections amendment debate, honestly the wahehimiwas earn sitting allowances while the public spends their precious time to contribute to their work yet no feedback is provided. We need urgent feedback on the ICT policy, we also need feedback on the public participation exercise that culminated in the elections amendment act. I would also like to take this opportunity to applaud senator Halake for engaging stakeholders electronically through the KICTAnet mailing list, i think the senate can take advantage of mailing lists and Social Media to engage the public provided the engagement is well structured and based on a public participation framework. Best On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 9:10 AM, kanini mutemi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Dear Listers, Welome to the third and final day of the Talk to the Senate series. We have discussed at length the challenges facing the counties and made exciting proposals for a brighter future. We will culminate this discussion with an earnest look at how we can foster engagements between the ICT community and the legislature (think, effective public participation). The proposals we come up with could very easily be adopted into a Public Participation Bill that would dictate how counties are to conduct public participation, talk about killing two birds with one stone. Please indulge me in answering the following questions– (a) What constitutes effective public participation? (b) How can we leverage on ICT to achieve effective public participation? (c) Please give proposals on engagements you would like to see between the ICT community and the Senate ICT Committee. Let us finish strong! _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barrack%40gmail... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Barrack O. 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Good Morning, Kanini, et al, (b) How can we leverage on ICT to achieve effective public participation? CRMs must be deployed within every county. The data centers can/should be centralized, backed up, elsewhere in Kenya, but mini data centers (fitting in 2 or 3 different containers) should be within county premises. County residents should be able to locally access and provide information, not just via the web, but via physical, digital displays or dashboards in county offices. ERP (Enterprise Resource Planning) are *internal* tools to manage/track internal resources (assets). CRMs' on the other hand are designed to enable more engagement with " *outsiders*", that is citizens/customers, to track service delivery matters such as workflows, case management, etc. For example, through a County CRM, a citizen/resident may be able to electronically report a leaking sewer pipe/waste causing cholera at the market eatery it passes through. Google searches.. (i) "CRM go.ke" Sadly, ERP (revenue collection not service delivery requirements or results) links show up. (ii) Google "CRM gov.za" ..including page 2 of the results, come up for one of the best managed cities in South Africa. Cape Town is still ahead of Nairobi even if they have a major water problem due to miscalculated policies. How can we begin to find "CRM go.ke" results online? (i) Create via legislation, Chief Customer Officer and Chief Information Officer positions. Role of these two officers will include charting the way forward in their counties in procuring CRMs' (which help provide feedback on service delivery, after County executives have collected, allocated revenues). (ii) CRM tenders should be advertised online, 90 days prior, to the selection of interested local firms. Local firms which understand the culture of locals in those particular counties. In one county, the CRM needs to help track illegal breweries, in another, cattle rustling, in the other, blowing up of telco masts (destruction of public utilities). These are not the kind of tenders to be dished out at night clubs or hotels. On Feb 7, 2018 9:12 AM, "kanini mutemi via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Listers,
Welome to the third and final day of the Talk to the Senate series. We have discussed at length the challenges facing the counties and made exciting proposals for a brighter future. We will culminate this discussion with an earnest look at how we can foster engagements between the ICT community and the legislature (think, effective public participation). The proposals we come up with could very easily be adopted into a Public Participation Bill that would dictate how counties are to conduct public participation, talk about killing two birds with one stone.
Please indulge me in answering the following questions–
(a) What constitutes effective public participation?
(b) How can we leverage on ICT to achieve effective public participation?
(c) Please give proposals on engagements you would like to see between the ICT community and the Senate ICT Committee.
Let us finish strong!
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@Muraya, These are really good proposals. I even see a legislative opportunity for the Senate to entrench the CCO and CIO positions in counties. What you describe paints such a glorious dawn in accountability and transparency in governance and actual involvement of the people. Thank you.
On 7 Feb 2018, at 10:41, S.M. Muraya via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Good Morning, Kanini, et al,
(b) How can we leverage on ICT to achieve effective public participation?
CRMs must be deployed within every county. The data centers can/should be centralized, backed up, elsewhere in Kenya, but mini data centers (fitting in 2 or 3 different containers) should be within county premises.
County residents should be able to locally access and provide information, not just via the web, but via physical, digital displays or dashboards in county offices.
ERP (Enterprise Resource Planning) are internal tools to manage/track internal resources (assets).
CRMs' on the other hand are designed to enable more engagement with "outsiders", that is citizens/customers, to track service delivery matters such as workflows, case management, etc.
For example, through a County CRM, a citizen/resident may be able to electronically report a leaking sewer pipe/waste causing cholera at the market eatery it passes through.
Google searches..
(i) "CRM go.ke <http://go.ke/>" Sadly, ERP (revenue collection not service delivery requirements or results) links show up.
(ii) Google "CRM gov.za <http://gov.za/>" ..including page 2 of the results, come up for one of the best managed cities in South Africa.
Cape Town is still ahead of Nairobi even if they have a major water problem due to miscalculated policies.
How can we begin to find "CRM go.ke <http://go.ke/>" results online?
(i) Create via legislation, Chief Customer Officer and Chief Information Officer positions.
Role of these two officers will include charting the way forward in their counties in procuring CRMs' (which help provide feedback on service delivery, after County executives have collected, allocated revenues).
(ii) CRM tenders should be advertised online, 90 days prior, to the selection of interested local firms. Local firms which understand the culture of locals in those particular counties.
In one county, the CRM needs to help track illegal breweries, in another, cattle rustling, in the other, blowing up of telco masts (destruction of public utilities).
These are not the kind of tenders to be dished out at night clubs or hotels.
On Feb 7, 2018 9:12 AM, "kanini mutemi via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Dear Listers,
Welome to the third and final day of the Talk to the Senate series. We have discussed at length the challenges facing the counties and made exciting proposals for a brighter future. We will culminate this discussion with an earnest look at how we can foster engagements between the ICT community and the legislature (think, effective public participation). The proposals we come up with could very easily be adopted into a Public Participation Bill that would dictate how counties are to conduct public participation, talk about killing two birds with one stone.
Please indulge me in answering the following questions–
(a) What constitutes effective public participation?
(b) How can we leverage on ICT to achieve effective public participation?
(c) Please give proposals on engagements you would like to see between the ICT community and the Senate ICT Committee.
Let us finish strong!
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Kanini, Executives are likely to fire a CIO who gets in their way, depending on if their agendas align. So much still depends on CEOs in Counties and State Depts/Corporations. If a CIO is not into foul politics, they will deliver efficiency + online accessibility while the CCO will deliver on premise hospitality + online responses. On Feb 7, 2018 10:50 AM, "kanini mutemi via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: @Muraya, These are really good proposals. I even see a legislative opportunity for the Senate to entrench the CCO and CIO positions in counties. What you describe paints such a glorious dawn in accountability and transparency in governance and actual involvement of the people. Thank you. On 7 Feb 2018, at 10:41, S.M. Muraya via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Good Morning, Kanini, et al, (b) How can we leverage on ICT to achieve effective public participation? CRMs must be deployed within every county. The data centers can/should be centralized, backed up, elsewhere in Kenya, but mini data centers (fitting in 2 or 3 different containers) should be within county premises. County residents should be able to locally access and provide information, not just via the web, but via physical, digital displays or dashboards in county offices. ERP (Enterprise Resource Planning) are *internal* tools to manage/track internal resources (assets). CRMs' on the other hand are designed to enable more engagement with " *outsiders*", that is citizens/customers, to track service delivery matters such as workflows, case management, etc. For example, through a County CRM, a citizen/resident may be able to electronically report a leaking sewer pipe/waste causing cholera at the market eatery it passes through. Google searches.. (i) "CRM go.ke" Sadly, ERP (revenue collection not service delivery requirements or results) links show up. (ii) Google "CRM gov.za" ..including page 2 of the results, come up for one of the best managed cities in South Africa. Cape Town is still ahead of Nairobi even if they have a major water problem due to miscalculated policies. How can we begin to find "CRM go.ke" results online? (i) Create via legislation, Chief Customer Officer and Chief Information Officer positions. Role of these two officers will include charting the way forward in their counties in procuring CRMs' (which help provide feedback on service delivery, after County executives have collected, allocated revenues). (ii) CRM tenders should be advertised online, 90 days prior, to the selection of interested local firms. Local firms which understand the culture of locals in those particular counties. In one county, the CRM needs to help track illegal breweries, in another, cattle rustling, in the other, blowing up of telco masts (destruction of public utilities). These are not the kind of tenders to be dished out at night clubs or hotels. On Feb 7, 2018 9:12 AM, "kanini mutemi via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Listers,
Welome to the third and final day of the Talk to the Senate series. We have discussed at length the challenges facing the counties and made exciting proposals for a brighter future. We will culminate this discussion with an earnest look at how we can foster engagements between the ICT community and the legislature (think, effective public participation). The proposals we come up with could very easily be adopted into a Public Participation Bill that would dictate how counties are to conduct public participation, talk about killing two birds with one stone.
Please indulge me in answering the following questions–
(a) What constitutes effective public participation?
(b) How can we leverage on ICT to achieve effective public participation?
(c) Please give proposals on engagements you would like to see between the ICT community and the Senate ICT Committee.
Let us finish strong!
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@Kanini, I got busy and forgot to share...so the following may perhaps fit in the previous days discussions but you decide. I was involved with Counties a while back while developing some of their County ICT roadmaps which most have not bothered to implement. One thing we observed was that very few counties had a substantive ICT ministry at county levels. Many had lumped ICTs under Youth ministries, or education ministries. One if am not wrong even had put ICT under health or housing ministry ;-) So anyway, what this means is that when it comes to budgeting, ICT issues would be last on the queue or put differently, no budgets for ICTs. That was problem no 1. Problem no 2. was the county assemblies, the folks who approve county budgets had little understanding of ICT budgets, so when push comes to shove, even progressive 'ICT' counties like Uasin Gishu would have their ICT budgets chopped off viciously. Problem no3. I observed was that most counties needed the same 'ICT' services eg. Health info systems, Revenue Collection (parking fees, licensing fees, rates, etc) and so they would benefit from coming together and purchasing Cloud services as opposed to each individually buying the same system (H/ware & S/Ware) from perhaps the same supplier who charges them x47 times for separate installations. But most Counties prefer to operate in isolation since it gives them leeway on deciding who gets the ICT tenders (read between the lines ;-) Maybe going forward, Senate Committee on ICT could increase its focus County ICT budgets (or their lack thereof). Further they would demand more accountability on how these budgets are spent..tendered..etc. Essentially provide deeper ICT oversight and performance indicators for counties. walu. On Wednesday, February 7, 2018, 9:13:51 AM GMT+3, kanini mutemi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Dear Listers, Welome to the third and final day of the Talk to the Senate series. We have discussed at length the challenges facing the counties and made exciting proposals for a brighter future. We will culminate this discussion with an earnest look at how we can foster engagements between the ICT community and the legislature (think, effective public participation). The proposals we come up with could very easily be adopted into a Public Participation Bill that would dictate how counties are to conduct public participation, talk about killing two birds with one stone. Please indulge me in answering the following questions– (a) What constitutes effective public participation? (b) How can we leverage on ICT to achieve effective public participation? (c) Please give proposals on engagements you would like to see between the ICT community and the Senate ICT Committee. Let us finish strong! _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Rant >> Legal fees should never exceed budgets allocated for projects increasing service delivery and access to information. https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/City-Hall-to-pay-lawyer- Ojienda-Sh262-million/539546-4161134-1mwtbe/index.html @Walu Your comments sum up why we need to Legislate principles and then, within that Legislation require IT Procurement and Management Regulations to be *gazetted* + updated by the *Kenya ICT Authority* every 36 or so months. The KICTA needs to allow for public participation. Public being the IT industry - individuals, companies and associations who avail themselves for public forums, whether in body or online. County residents may sue their executives if these regulations are ignored and information concerning resident welfare is not readily accessible. * Best practice will distribute instances (installations) of service applications. Even if there is a centralized service for all counties, each county should have their own information backed up at their premises and in other localities or counties. Each and every citizen/resident unable to access the Internet should be able to access data within county premises - including paper notifications stuck on notice boards and digital dash boards. At County premises, you should be able to enter your ID or Passport number on some digital appliance (dashboard) and access workflow information - where your case/matter has reached and who is handling it at each stage and how to contact them. There should be a complaint/feedback mechanism at your finger tips if service is not forthcoming.* On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Walubengo J via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Kanini,
I got busy and forgot to share...so the following may perhaps fit in the previous days discussions but you decide.
I was involved with Counties a while back while developing some of their County ICT roadmaps <http://icta.go.ke/county-ict-roadmaps/> which most have not bothered to implement. One thing we observed was that very few counties had a substantive ICT ministry at county levels. Many had lumped ICTs under Youth ministries, or education ministries. One if am not wrong even had put ICT under health or housing ministry ;-)
So anyway, what this means is that when it comes to budgeting, ICT issues would be last on the queue or put differently, no budgets for ICTs. That was problem no 1.
Problem no 2. was the county assemblies, the folks who approve county budgets had little understanding of ICT budgets, so when push comes to shove, even progressive 'ICT' counties like Uasin Gishu would have their ICT budgets chopped off viciously.
Problem no3. I observed was that most counties needed the same 'ICT' services eg. Health info systems, Revenue Collection (parking fees, licensing fees, rates, etc) and so they would benefit from coming together and purchasing Cloud services as opposed to each individually buying the same system (H/ware & S/Ware) from perhaps the same supplier who charges them x47 times for separate installations.
But most Counties prefer to operate in isolation since it gives them leeway on deciding who gets the ICT tenders (read between the lines ;-)
Maybe going forward, Senate Committee on ICT could increase its focus County ICT budgets (or their lack thereof). Further they would demand more accountability on how these budgets are spent..tendered..etc. Essentially provide deeper ICT oversight and performance indicators for counties.
walu.
On Wednesday, February 7, 2018, 9:13:51 AM GMT+3, kanini mutemi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Listers,
Welome to the third and final day of the Talk to the Senate series. We have discussed at length the challenges facing the counties and made exciting proposals for a brighter future. We will culminate this discussion with an earnest look at how we can foster engagements between the ICT community and the legislature (think, effective public participation). The proposals we come up with could very easily be adopted into a Public Participation Bill that would dictate how counties are to conduct public participation, talk about killing two birds with one stone.
Please indulge me in answering the following questions–
(a) What constitutes effective public participation?
(b) How can we leverage on ICT to achieve effective public participation?
(c) Please give proposals on engagements you would like to see between the ICT community and the Senate ICT Committee.
Let us finish strong!
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-- SMM *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
participants (10)
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Adam Lane -
anyega jefferson -
Barrack Otieno -
Ephraim Percy Kenyanito -
Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) -
kanini mutemi -
Robert Muthuri -
S.M. Muraya -
Wainaina Mungai -
Walubengo J