Digital TV signal Distribution row
Just been reading this article, http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Nation++Royal+Media+lose+a..., and the print lacks the details but also a reflection is what is happening in developing countries. Did the local media group have the technical and financial capability to operate signal distribution platforms and roll out the services, yet got dropped out because of tender technicalities. How is this possible? Are we saying kenyans are totally incapable of understanding the requirements or commitments of such national projects? I hope the affected parties do an indepth review of why they lost out and share that information with kenyans. We need to know, because I'm sure the local media groups were also going to buy technology platforms and implement roll out so issues like delays due to internal manufacture or creation do not even arise. Some thoughts. Thank you.
When you see "technicality" card being brandished, it simply means no one spoke to any body! It will take generations before "we" learn to put our national interest above individualistic short-term gain interest. It is terrible, it is bad! Regards Philip On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:53 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
Just been reading this article, http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Nation++Royal+Media+lose+a..., and the print lacks the details but also a reflection is what is happening in developing countries.
Did the local media group have the technical and financial capability to operate signal distribution platforms and roll out the services, yet got dropped out because of tender technicalities. How is this possible? Are we saying kenyans are totally incapable of understanding the requirements or commitments of such national projects?
I hope the affected parties do an indepth review of why they lost out and share that information with kenyans. We need to know, because I'm sure the local media groups were also going to buy technology platforms and implement roll out so issues like delays due to internal manufacture or creation do not even arise.
Some thoughts.
Thank you.
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I saw the same on NTV news. And I think this is all because both NTV and RMS had tendered for the licence only for some Chinese firm to win it through some unclear means. I only wonder why this is so and why the government had to handpick the Chinese to do this. /me/ On 20/07/2011, Philip Adar <philip.adar@gmail.com> wrote:
When you see "technicality" card being brandished, it simply means no one spoke to any body!
It will take generations before "we" learn to put our national interest above individualistic short-term gain interest. It is terrible, it is bad!
Regards Philip
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:53 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
Just been reading this article, http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Nation++Royal+Media+lose+a..., and the print lacks the details but also a reflection is what is happening in developing countries.
Did the local media group have the technical and financial capability to operate signal distribution platforms and roll out the services, yet got dropped out because of tender technicalities. How is this possible? Are we saying kenyans are totally incapable of understanding the requirements or commitments of such national projects?
I hope the affected parties do an indepth review of why they lost out and share that information with kenyans. We need to know, because I'm sure the local media groups were also going to buy technology platforms and implement roll out so issues like delays due to internal manufacture or creation do not even arise.
Some thoughts.
Thank you.
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Yet in China there is limited freedom of press. On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
I saw the same on NTV news. And I think this is all because both NTV and RMS had tendered for the licence only for some Chinese firm to win it through some unclear means.
I only wonder why this is so and why the government had to handpick the Chinese to do this.
/me/
When you see "technicality" card being brandished, it simply means no one spoke to any body!
It will take generations before "we" learn to put our national interest above individualistic short-term gain interest. It is terrible, it is bad!
Regards Philip
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:53 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
Just been reading this article,
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Nation++Royal+Media+lose+a... ,
and the print lacks the details but also a reflection is what is happening in developing countries.
Did the local media group have the technical and financial capability to operate signal distribution platforms and roll out the services, yet got dropped out because of tender technicalities. How is this possible? Are we saying kenyans are totally incapable of understanding the requirements or commitments of such national projects?
I hope the affected parties do an indepth review of why they lost out and share that information with kenyans. We need to know, because I'm sure
On 20/07/2011, Philip Adar <philip.adar@gmail.com> wrote: the
local media groups were also going to buy technology platforms and implement roll out so issues like delays due to internal manufacture or creation do not even arise.
Some thoughts.
Thank you.
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I don’t think that China is the real issue. They can only come in if there is a vacuum and of course their clique pushing for them. Much as I sympathize with local appeal losers solely on the need to protect our sovereignity, and especially where the procurement process is above board to allow for competitiveness – whether local or international. The new Competition Act - 504, is a call to action for all – Govt (MOIC etc), parastatals, sector regulators including CCK to appreciate that a “big brother” Called Competition Authority will soon be watching over them and that it will have enough powers to enhance competition and protect consumers. It is not clear whether the Chinese firm and/or the local bidders are competitive and whether both parties would enhance consumer protection as relates to digital broadcasting. If I were the local bidders, I’d have not have bid especially if I doubted the authenticity of process and specs – I’d have contested then. Apart from diplomatic challenges, Kenya will appear as an anti-competitive market for international bidders should the Courts stop the Chinese firm. As a country, we need to take some lessons here. From: kictanet-bounces+stephen=cofek.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+stephen=cofek.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Joseph McDonald Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:29 AM To: stephen@cofek.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [!! SPAM] Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row Yet in China there is limited freedom of press. On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote: I saw the same on NTV news. And I think this is all because both NTV and RMS had tendered for the licence only for some Chinese firm to win it through some unclear means. I only wonder why this is so and why the government had to handpick the Chinese to do this. /me/ On 20/07/2011, Philip Adar <philip.adar@gmail.com> wrote:
When you see "technicality" card being brandished, it simply means no one spoke to any body!
It will take generations before "we" learn to put our national interest above individualistic short-term gain interest. It is terrible, it is bad!
Regards Philip
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:53 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
Just been reading this article, http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Nation++Royal+Media+lose+a..., and the print lacks the details but also a reflection is what is happening in developing countries.
Did the local media group have the technical and financial capability to operate signal distribution platforms and roll out the services, yet got dropped out because of tender technicalities. How is this possible? Are we saying kenyans are totally incapable of understanding the requirements or commitments of such national projects?
I hope the affected parties do an indepth review of why they lost out and share that information with kenyans. We need to know, because I'm sure the local media groups were also going to buy technology platforms and implement roll out so issues like delays due to internal manufacture or creation do not even arise.
Some thoughts.
Thank you.
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I don’t think that China is the real issue. They can only come in if there is a vacuum and of course their clique pushing for them. Much as I sympathize with local appeal losers solely on the need to protect our sovereignity, and especially where the procurement process is above board to allow for competitiveness – whether local or international. The new Competition Act - 504, is a call to action for all – Govt (MOIC etc),
Not sure if 20% "local ownership" is a legal requirement in this case but NTV pointed it as lacking in the firm that won the bid. At least local ownership such as "Mobitelea" is not evident yet. China would never allow this in their territories. They require that Chinese be strategically involved / positioned to acquire technical knowledge from any FDI in their nation.. We also know a few years the US (Congress) had issues with Arab shareholders in firms involved with their ports. National security before free trade... On Jul 20, 2011 3:23 PM, "Stephen Mutoro" <stephen@cofek.co.ke> wrote: parastatals, sector regulators including CCK to appreciate that a “big brother” Called Competition Authority will soon be watching over them and that it will have enough powers to enhance competition and protect consumers.
It is not clear whether the Chinese firm and/or the local bidders are
competitive and whether both parties would enhance consumer protection as relates to digital broadcasting. If I were the local bidders, I’d have not have bid especially if I doubted the authenticity of process and specs – I’d have contested then. Apart from diplomatic challenges, Kenya will appear as an anti-competitive market for international bidders should the Courts stop the Chinese firm. As a country, we need to take some lessons here.
From: kictanet-bounces+stephen=cofek.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:29 AM To: stephen@cofek.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [!! SPAM] Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row
Yet in China there is limited freedom of press.
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
I saw the same on NTV news. And I think this is all because both NTV and RMS had tendered for the licence only for some Chinese firm to win it through some unclear means.
I only wonder why this is so and why the government had to handpick the Chinese to do this.
/me/
On 20/07/2011, Philip Adar <philip.adar@gmail.com> wrote:
When you see "technicality" card being brandished, it simply means no one spoke to any body!
It will take generations before "we" learn to put our national interest above individualistic short-term gain interest. It is terrible, it is bad!
Regards Philip
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:53 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
Just been reading this article,
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Nation++Royal+Media+lose+a... ,
and the print lacks the details but also a reflection is what is happening in developing countries.
Did the local media group have the technical and financial capability to operate signal distribution platforms and roll out the services, yet got dropped out because of tender technicalities. How is this possible? Are we saying kenyans are totally incapable of understanding the requirements or commitments of such national projects?
I hope the affected parties do an indepth review of why they lost out and share that information with kenyans. We need to know, because I'm sure
kictanet-bounces+stephen=cofek.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Joseph McDonald the
local media groups were also going to buy technology platforms and implement roll out so issues like delays due to internal manufacture or creation do not even arise.
Some thoughts.
Thank you.
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That's the point exactly, Murigi. Why did the government settle for the Chinese firm at the expense of local ones which were in the bid for the tender. @ Wash, Without an equal participation, there will always be a discontent whether the 'brown envelope' danced from a table to the other. Generally ( I hope so), the PS in the Inforrmation Ministry should sattisfy our urge and curiosity. There is something fishy about this whole deal. And whether RMS and NMG are the limping egos or crying foul after a sealed deal from the word go 'materialized', we need some satisfactory truth. I'm of the opinion, apart from China Town in the States, Kenya will be a Chinese coountry outside China. My case. On 20/07/2011, S.Murigi Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com> wrote:
Not sure if 20% "local ownership" is a legal requirement in this case but NTV pointed it as lacking in the firm that won the bid.
At least local ownership such as "Mobitelea" is not evident yet.
China would never allow this in their territories. They require that Chinese be strategically involved / positioned to acquire technical knowledge from any FDI in their nation..
I don’t think that China is the real issue. They can only come in if there is a vacuum and of course their clique pushing for them. Much as I sympathize with local appeal losers solely on the need to protect our sovereignity, and especially where the procurement process is above board to allow for competitiveness – whether local or international. The new Competition Act - 504, is a call to action for all – Govt (MOIC etc),
We also know a few years the US (Congress) had issues with Arab shareholders in firms involved with their ports. National security before free trade... On Jul 20, 2011 3:23 PM, "Stephen Mutoro" <stephen@cofek.co.ke> wrote: parastatals, sector regulators including CCK to appreciate that a “big brother” Called Competition Authority will soon be watching over them and that it will have enough powers to enhance competition and protect consumers.
It is not clear whether the Chinese firm and/or the local bidders are
competitive and whether both parties would enhance consumer protection as relates to digital broadcasting. If I were the local bidders, I’d have not have bid especially if I doubted the authenticity of process and specs – I’d have contested then. Apart from diplomatic challenges, Kenya will appear as an anti-competitive market for international bidders should the Courts stop the Chinese firm. As a country, we need to take some lessons here.
From: kictanet-bounces+stephen=cofek.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:29 AM To: stephen@cofek.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [!! SPAM] Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row
Yet in China there is limited freedom of press.
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
I saw the same on NTV news. And I think this is all because both NTV and RMS had tendered for the licence only for some Chinese firm to win it through some unclear means.
I only wonder why this is so and why the government had to handpick the Chinese to do this.
/me/
On 20/07/2011, Philip Adar <philip.adar@gmail.com> wrote:
When you see "technicality" card being brandished, it simply means no one spoke to any body!
It will take generations before "we" learn to put our national interest above individualistic short-term gain interest. It is terrible, it is bad!
Regards Philip
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:53 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
Just been reading this article,
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Nation++Royal+Media+lose+a... ,
and the print lacks the details but also a reflection is what is happening in developing countries.
Did the local media group have the technical and financial capability to operate signal distribution platforms and roll out the services, yet got dropped out because of tender technicalities. How is this possible? Are we saying kenyans are totally incapable of understanding the requirements or commitments of such national projects?
I hope the affected parties do an indepth review of why they lost out and share that information with kenyans. We need to know, because I'm sure
kictanet-bounces+stephen=cofek.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Joseph McDonald the
local media groups were also going to buy technology platforms and implement roll out so issues like delays due to internal manufacture or creation do not even arise.
Some thoughts.
Thank you.
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@Solomon, Are you the only one who doesn't know how the Chinese operate? Haven't you heard of the "brown envelop" phenomena? There is nothing as "unclear means". It's the brown envelope, but no one admits it always. I can say for sure that is what has pissed off RMS and the others, because they have the means to run these operations. On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 09:25, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
I saw the same on NTV news. And I think this is all because both NTV and RMS had tendered for the licence only for some Chinese firm to win it through some unclear means.
I only wonder why this is so and why the government had to handpick the Chinese to do this.
/me/
When you see "technicality" card being brandished, it simply means no one spoke to any body!
It will take generations before "we" learn to put our national interest above individualistic short-term gain interest. It is terrible, it is bad!
Regards Philip
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:53 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
Just been reading this article,
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Nation++Royal+Media+lose+a... ,
and the print lacks the details but also a reflection is what is happening in developing countries.
Did the local media group have the technical and financial capability to operate signal distribution platforms and roll out the services, yet got dropped out because of tender technicalities. How is this possible? Are we saying kenyans are totally incapable of understanding the requirements or commitments of such national projects?
I hope the affected parties do an indepth review of why they lost out and share that information with kenyans. We need to know, because I'm sure
On 20/07/2011, Philip Adar <philip.adar@gmail.com> wrote: the
local media groups were also going to buy technology platforms and implement roll out so issues like delays due to internal manufacture or creation do not even arise.
Some thoughts.
Thank you.
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Greed and race for quick wealth among top Kenyan leaders has reached alarming proportions. It is as if they feel the end of the world is at hand and they must enrich themselves at whatever cost even if the sovereignty of the state will be compromised by their actions. --- On Tue, 7/19/11, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote: From: Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row To: tefitlum@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 11:25 PM I saw the same on NTV news. And I think this is all because both NTV and RMS had tendered for the licence only for some Chinese firm to win it through some unclear means. I only wonder why this is so and why the government had to handpick the Chinese to do this. /me/ On 20/07/2011, Philip Adar <philip.adar@gmail.com> wrote:
When you see "technicality" card being brandished, it simply means no one spoke to any body!
It will take generations before "we" learn to put our national interest above individualistic short-term gain interest. It is terrible, it is bad!
Regards Philip
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:53 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
Just been reading this article, http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Nation++Royal+Media+lose+a..., and the print lacks the details but also a reflection is what is happening in developing countries.
Did the local media group have the technical and financial capability to operate signal distribution platforms and roll out the services, yet got dropped out because of tender technicalities. How is this possible? Are we saying kenyans are totally incapable of understanding the requirements or commitments of such national projects?
I hope the affected parties do an indepth review of why they lost out and share that information with kenyans. We need to know, because I'm sure the local media groups were also going to buy technology platforms and implement roll out so issues like delays due to internal manufacture or creation do not even arise.
Some thoughts.
Thank you.
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Methinks we only have part of the story ... from the losers. I would wait for more information and a balanced story before making conclusions. Regards, Jotham --- On Tue, 7/19/11, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote: From: Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row To: jokilimo@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 11:25 PM I saw the same on NTV news. And I think this is all because both NTV and RMS had tendered for the licence only for some Chinese firm to win it through some unclear means. I only wonder why this is so and why the government had to handpick the Chinese to do this. /me/ On 20/07/2011, Philip Adar <philip.adar@gmail.com> wrote:
When you see "technicality" card being brandished, it simply means no one spoke to any body!
It will take generations before "we" learn to put our national interest above individualistic short-term gain interest. It is terrible, it is bad!
Regards Philip
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:53 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
Just been reading this article, http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Nation++Royal+Media+lose+a..., and the print lacks the details but also a reflection is what is happening in developing countries.
Did the local media group have the technical and financial capability to operate signal distribution platforms and roll out the services, yet got dropped out because of tender technicalities. How is this possible? Are we saying kenyans are totally incapable of understanding the requirements or commitments of such national projects?
I hope the affected parties do an indepth review of why they lost out and share that information with kenyans. We need to know, because I'm sure the local media groups were also going to buy technology platforms and implement roll out so issues like delays due to internal manufacture or creation do not even arise.
Some thoughts.
Thank you.
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I wish elective office was also competitive against the chinese.... Then we would see who would have the last laugh. On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Jotham Kilimo Mwale <jokilimo@yahoo.com>wrote:
Methinks we only have part of the story ... from the losers. I would wait for more information and a balanced story before making conclusions.
Regards, Jotham
--- On *Tue, 7/19/11, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com>* wrote:
From: Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row To: jokilimo@yahoo.com
Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 11:25 PM
I saw the same on NTV news. And I think this is all because both NTV and RMS had tendered for the licence only for some Chinese firm to win it through some unclear means.
I only wonder why this is so and why the government had to handpick the Chinese to do this.
/me/
When you see "technicality" card being brandished, it simply means no one spoke to any body!
It will take generations before "we" learn to put our national interest above individualistic short-term gain interest. It is terrible, it is bad!
Regards Philip
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:53 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=aki275@gmail.com>> wrote:
Just been reading this article,
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Nation++Royal+Media+lose+a... ,
and the print lacks the details but also a reflection is what is happening in developing countries.
Did the local media group have the technical and financial capability to operate signal distribution platforms and roll out the services, yet got dropped out because of tender technicalities. How is this possible? Are we saying kenyans are totally incapable of understanding the requirements or commitments of such national projects?
I hope the affected parties do an indepth review of why they lost out and share that information with kenyans. We need to know, because I'm sure
On 20/07/2011, Philip Adar <philip.adar@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=philip.adar@gmail.com>> wrote: the
local media groups were also going to buy technology platforms and implement roll out so issues like delays due to internal manufacture or creation do not even arise.
Some thoughts.
Thank you.
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Hi, The move to digital is similar to the fact that all marine cables terminate in one location at the coast, an opportunity to install a Kill switch. NMG & RMG have objected to working with Signet right from the beginning but have never put forth a convincing argument why they wanted a different distributor of the digital signal apart from that it needs to be an independent player. Who is more independent than a Chinese, they make up 1 out of every 5 human beings, a distributor owned by a section of the media houses is definitely not independent. The winning in this fight must be the consumer who currently only received KBC because the other media houses believe that it is not economically viable to put up a must in those far flung regions. Transmission infrastructure has ceased to be a competitive advantage and its time that the management of NMG & RMG accept the change in the status qua and spend their resources in purchasing local productions to the required 40% of programming and the rest on the Oga movies It is a basic human right for me to receive clear radio and TV signal wherever I am in the country so long as I have a TV set, be it a Great Wall (another great Chinese import) or a 72" LED 3D media device a situation that cannot be left to the whims of occupants of corporate board rooms whose mandate is to maximise profit. Regards Tuwache ujeuri, we cannot make bicycles so we import them from chine, we cannot make ploughs so we import them from China, we cannot make roads so we import them from China, so since we have been unable to cover the country with analog TV signal doesn't it follow that we should import them from China. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wed, 20 July, 2011 10:20:50 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row I wish elective office was also competitive against the chinese.... Then we would see who would have the last laugh. On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Jotham Kilimo Mwale <jokilimo@yahoo.com> wrote: Methinks we only have part of the story ... from the losers. I would wait for more information and a balanced story before making conclusions.
Regards, Jotham
--- On Tue, 7/19/11, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row To: jokilimo@yahoo.com
Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 11:25 PM
I saw the same on NTV news. And I think this is all because both NTV and RMS had tendered for the licence only for some Chinese firm to win it through some unclear means.
I only wonder why this is so and why the government had to handpick the Chinese to do this.
/me/
On 20/07/2011, Philip Adar <philip.adar@gmail.com> wrote:
When you see "technicality" card being brandished, it simply means no one spoke to any body!
It will take generations before "we" learn to put our national interest above individualistic short-term gain interest. It is terrible, it is bad!
Regards Philip
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:53 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
Just been reading this article, http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Nation++Royal+Media+lose+a..., , and the print lacks the details but also a reflection is what is happening in developing countries.
Did the local media group have the technical and financial capability to operate signal distribution platforms and roll out the services, yet got dropped out because of tender technicalities. How is this possible? Are we saying kenyans are totally incapable of understanding the requirements or commitments of such national projects?
I hope the affected parties do an indepth review of why they lost out and share that information with kenyans. We need to know, because I'm sure the local media groups were also going to buy technology platforms and implement roll out so issues like delays due to internal manufacture or creation do not even arise.
Some thoughts.
Thank you.
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Hi Robert, I'd like to add some comments inline below. :-) On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 1:10 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi,
The move to digital is similar to the fact that all marine cables terminate in one location at the coast, an opportunity to install a Kill switch.
NMG & RMG have objected to working with Signet right from the beginning but have never put forth a convincing argument why they wanted a different distributor of the digital signal apart from that it needs to be an independent player.
** *It makes perfect sense that broadcasters would also like the chance to choose and even own the distribution facilities. As long as they can hold it together and not affect national growth, where is the problem in this? * ** **
Who is more independent than a Chinese, they make up 1 out of every 5 human beings, a distributor owned by a section of the media houses is definitely not independent. The winning in this fight must be the consumer who currently only received KBC because the other media houses believe that it is not economically viable to put up a must in those far flung regions.
*I thought regulation exists and that also self regulation was the mode of broadcasters independence. Do we now need a third party to enforce independence? And the third party really seems like a referree who has no function in local regulation/de-regulation and can never contribute to the advancement of the sector.* **** *KBC used taxpayers money to fulfill national goals, this is the minimum we can expect from it. Asking private sector to use funds to broadcast nationally, what are the cost implications? At any given route out of nairobi, I think the traffic capacity is that of DS3 circuits, this costs are huge and probably charged per Kilometre. Does the Govt allow the private stations to use the National Fiber Optic capacities at very subsidized rates? I remember KBC in Timboroah, Eldoret as a powerful transmitter. How much did it cost to broadcast the signal from Nairobi, all the way to Eldoret, including satellite uplinking from Nairobi and downlinking in e.g. Eldoret. * ** *As part of national policies, was expansion included in the license requirements over a period say e.g. 5 years or so or left to market forces to determine?*
Tuwache ujeuri, we cannot make bicycles so we import them from chine, we cannot make ploughs so we import them from China, we cannot make roads so we import them from China, so since we have been unable to cover the country with analog TV signal doesn't it follow that we should import them from China.
*Welcome to the consumerism society that we have been made for many decades due to governments policies which also created private sectors that will only meet development until retail and as far as human reosurces are concerned. The basis is of __Import to retail. Because it seems goverments really do nothing much--except find external partners to initially fund and invest in their projects, collect taxes at importation, collect taxes through VAT such as goods and services etc. Then spend these amounts on what they think will make us even bigger markets of goods and services so that they can collect more taxes. I believe there are even books out there that predict Africa as a very large import market. Interestingly, I think we will pay the ultimate price in future for becoming brain-dead zombies who cannot even start a motor vehicle without an owners manual. There are no policies or incentives that encourage localization. Oil producing developing countries have fuel shortages at the domestic pumps, is just the tip of the whole story. My amatuer views on this.* Rgds.
Robert, Indeed the following is a very important observation, one which all of us should pause and take note of:- "We cannot make bicycles so we import them from China, we cannot make ploughs so we import them from China, we cannot make roads so we import them from China, so since we have been unable to cover the country with analog TV signal doesn't it follow that we should import them from China." And the following is a curious line, picked from some local commentary on this:- " Ching chung chin,dou ching chang hu" . Anyways, our friends from the East are doing a real good job esp on our roads, but hey, Can we strike a balance and place this country on a fast trajectory to be self reliant/dependant and avoid placing unnecessary bottlenecks on this path.....? Harry _____ From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of robert yawe Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 1:11 PM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row Hi, The move to digital is similar to the fact that all marine cables terminate in one location at the coast, an opportunity to install a Kill switch. NMG & RMG have objected to working with Signet right from the beginning but have never put forth a convincing argument why they wanted a different distributor of the digital signal apart from that it needs to be an independent player. Who is more independent than a Chinese, they make up 1 out of every 5 human beings, a distributor owned by a section of the media houses is definitely not independent. The winning in this fight must be the consumer who currently only received KBC because the other media houses believe that it is not economically viable to put up a must in those far flung regions. Transmission infrastructure has ceased to be a competitive advantage and its time that the management of NMG & RMG accept the change in the status qua and spend their resources in purchasing local productions to the required 40% of programming and the rest on the Oga movies It is a basic human right for me to receive clear radio and TV signal wherever I am in the country so long as I have a TV set, be it a Great Wall (another great Chinese import) or a 72" LED 3D media device a situation that cannot be left to the whims of occupants of corporate board rooms whose mandate is to maximise profit. Regards Tuwache ujeuri, we cannot make bicycles so we import them from chine, we cannot make ploughs so we import them from China, we cannot make roads so we import them from China, so since we have been unable to cover the country with analog TV signal doesn't it follow that we should import them from China. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 _____ From: [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wed, 20 July, 2011 10:20:50 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row I wish elective office was also competitive against the chinese.... Then we would see who would have the last laugh. On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Jotham Kilimo Mwale <jokilimo@yahoo.com> wrote: Methinks we only have part of the story ... from the losers. I would wait for more information and a balanced story before making conclusions. Regards, Jotham --- On Tue, 7/19/11, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote: From: Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row To: jokilimo@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 11:25 PM I saw the same on NTV news. And I think this is all because both NTV and RMS had tendered for the licence only for some Chinese firm to win it through some unclear means. I only wonder why this is so and why the government had to handpick the Chinese to do this. /me/ On 20/07/2011, Philip Adar <philip.adar@gmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=philip.adar@gmail.com> > wrote:
When you see "technicality" card being brandished, it simply means no one spoke to any body!
It will take generations before "we" learn to put our national interest above individualistic short-term gain interest. It is terrible, it is bad!
Regards Philip
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:53 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=aki275@gmail.com> > wrote:
Just been reading this article, http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Nation++Royal+Media+lose+a..., and the print lacks the details but also a reflection is what is happening in developing countries.
Did the local media group have the technical and financial capability to operate signal distribution platforms and roll out the services, yet got dropped out because of tender technicalities. How is this possible? Are we saying kenyans are totally incapable of understanding the requirements or commitments of such national projects?
I hope the affected parties do an indepth review of why they lost out and share that information with kenyans. We need to know, because I'm sure the local media groups were also going to buy technology platforms and implement roll out so issues like delays due to internal manufacture or creation do not even arise.
Some thoughts.
Thank you.
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Philip, I know there is corruption in this country but the conclusions you make are the ones that destroy this country. I wonder if you you tried to investigate and make an informed conclusion. The write up did not meet basic journalistic principles in a case where the writer is an interested party. Did it occur to you that there is a glaring conflict of interest in the matter? Indeed it will take generations before we learn not to make uninformed decisions. Regards Ndemo.
When you see "technicality" card being brandished, it simply means no one spoke to any body!
It will take generations before "we" learn to put our national interest above individualistic short-term gain interest. It is terrible, it is bad!
Regards Philip
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:53 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
Just been reading this article, http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Nation++Royal+Media+lose+a..., and the print lacks the details but also a reflection is what is happening in developing countries.
Did the local media group have the technical and financial capability to operate signal distribution platforms and roll out the services, yet got dropped out because of tender technicalities. How is this possible? Are we saying kenyans are totally incapable of understanding the requirements or commitments of such national projects?
I hope the affected parties do an indepth review of why they lost out and share that information with kenyans. We need to know, because I'm sure the local media groups were also going to buy technology platforms and implement roll out so issues like delays due to internal manufacture or creation do not even arise.
Some thoughts.
Thank you.
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Bwana PS, The intention is not to hit back, for there can never be any meaningful discussion in a situation of conflict. Good to notice that you agree that corruption is destroying our country. First step is to accept. Thank you! In 1961 when President Kennedy inaugurated an ambitious space exploration program in the US, he stated and I quote: *"I believe we possess all the resources and talents necessary. But the facts of the matter are that we have never made the national decisions or marshaled the national resources required for such leadership. We have never specified long-range goals on an urgent time schedule, or managed our resources and our time so as to insure their fulfillment".* No need to over-emphasize the power that comes from strong and determined state policy for grand achievements. It is to say, let us examine where we are strong and where we are not; and make a decision as a country (with government leadership) that some products, some services, some technologies, some knowledge, some expertise must be home-grown! For whichever considerations that make us "distribute local television signals" through a foreign firm; host public data in a foreign country.... If you were to resolve (your personal resolve and determination) that some of these things can be done here at home; would you not succeed? Would the Kenyan expertise fail you? What would be the ripple-effect of such an achievement to the local economy and know-how in the future? lastly, you are right. I did not investigate the "true story about what was published". I have no capacity to do so. But the main thing I noticed and resented, lack of resolve to nature local talent. Regards Philip On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:41 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Philip, I know there is corruption in this country but the conclusions you make are the ones that destroy this country. I wonder if you you tried to investigate and make an informed conclusion.
The write up did not meet basic journalistic principles in a case where the writer is an interested party. Did it occur to you that there is a glaring conflict of interest in the matter?
Indeed it will take generations before we learn not to make uninformed decisions.
Regards
Ndemo.
When you see "technicality" card being brandished, it simply means no one spoke to any body!
It will take generations before "we" learn to put our national interest above individualistic short-term gain interest. It is terrible, it is bad!
Regards Philip
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:53 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
Just been reading this article,
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Nation++Royal+Media+lose+a... ,
and the print lacks the details but also a reflection is what is happening in developing countries.
Did the local media group have the technical and financial capability to operate signal distribution platforms and roll out the services, yet got dropped out because of tender technicalities. How is this possible? Are we saying kenyans are totally incapable of understanding the requirements or commitments of such national projects?
I hope the affected parties do an indepth review of why they lost out and share that information with kenyans. We need to know, because I'm sure the local media groups were also going to buy technology platforms and implement roll out so issues like delays due to internal manufacture or creation do not even arise.
Some thoughts.
Thank you.
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This thread is interesting. It says a lot about our convictions, and work ethics, and research and development capabilities. Should we then conclude that we are dumb zombies who cannot do anything for ourselves? I remember reading "American students are number 27th in Mathematics in developed countries, but they are number one in confidence". Even if we are that bad, can we grow our confidence? Nation Media and Royal Media have shown glaring biases while taking on the Chinese! First, how local is NMG? Secondly, the local media has been awash with praise to the Chinese on the Thika road improvement project. Are they forgetting local contractors missed out to these Chinese? Thirdly, NMG, Royal Media, et-al have no problem importing and feeding us with Nigeria, Spanish, and European soaps and movies at the expense of local content, yet they have a problem with Chinese distributing signal. What do we really want? Remember "You simply cannot enslave or colonize people for centuries without internalizing the idea that they are different and inferior!" regards Mwendwa On 21/07/2011, Philip Adar <philip.adar@gmail.com> wrote:
Bwana PS, The intention is not to hit back, for there can never be any meaningful discussion in a situation of conflict.
Good to notice that you agree that corruption is destroying our country. First step is to accept. Thank you!
In 1961 when President Kennedy inaugurated an ambitious space exploration program in the US, he stated and I quote:
*"I believe we possess all the resources and talents necessary. But the facts of the matter are that we have never made the national decisions or marshaled the national resources required for such leadership. We have never specified long-range goals on an urgent time schedule, or managed our resources and our time so as to insure their fulfillment".* No need to over-emphasize the power that comes from strong and determined state policy for grand achievements. It is to say, let us examine where we are strong and where we are not; and make a decision as a country (with government leadership) that some products, some services, some technologies, some knowledge, some expertise must be home-grown!
For whichever considerations that make us "distribute local television signals" through a foreign firm; host public data in a foreign country....
If you were to resolve (your personal resolve and determination) that some of these things can be done here at home; would you not succeed? Would the Kenyan expertise fail you? What would be the ripple-effect of such an achievement to the local economy and know-how in the future?
lastly, you are right. I did not investigate the "true story about what was published". I have no capacity to do so. But the main thing I noticed and resented, lack of resolve to nature local talent.
Regards Philip
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:41 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Philip, I know there is corruption in this country but the conclusions you make are the ones that destroy this country. I wonder if you you tried to investigate and make an informed conclusion.
The write up did not meet basic journalistic principles in a case where the writer is an interested party. Did it occur to you that there is a glaring conflict of interest in the matter?
Indeed it will take generations before we learn not to make uninformed decisions.
Regards
Ndemo.
When you see "technicality" card being brandished, it simply means no one spoke to any body!
It will take generations before "we" learn to put our national interest above individualistic short-term gain interest. It is terrible, it is bad!
Regards Philip
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:53 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
Just been reading this article,
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Nation++Royal+Media+lose+a... ,
and the print lacks the details but also a reflection is what is happening in developing countries.
Did the local media group have the technical and financial capability to operate signal distribution platforms and roll out the services, yet got dropped out because of tender technicalities. How is this possible? Are we saying kenyans are totally incapable of understanding the requirements or commitments of such national projects?
I hope the affected parties do an indepth review of why they lost out and share that information with kenyans. We need to know, because I'm sure the local media groups were also going to buy technology platforms and implement roll out so issues like delays due to internal manufacture or creation do not even arise.
Some thoughts.
Thank you.
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Philip, TV signal distribution is a backbone service that can be done even by any telco. The issuance of channels is the preserve of CCK. There are regulations governing the sector where by the distributor cannot hold more than 20% of the channels. There is no room where any distributor can dominate the market. We now have the greatest opportunity to address the mistakes we made before with spectrum management by allowing as many Kenyans to own the channels as possible. This is the reason why we are giving 3 signal distributor licences. It will bring the necessary competion that will benefit the consumer. Our job is to balance consumer interests and those of the investor. There is no policy to dis=criminate against any country let alone China. If it was, then the entire telkom sector will have to be sold to locals. Whether we can afford it is another matter but it would not be a prudent policy in country that needs FDI. I had told the local broadcasters to make a case for a review considering the investment they have made in which case we shall give the third licence to them but it seems they had a nother agenda. You recall we have been at this before when another foreign enterprises tried to bring competition. Further the more channels we have, the more employment we create since any free to air channell must have at least 40% local content. Any one will understand this simple explanation of our intentions. It is unfortunate that some of you are used to advance an agenda that is contra to your long term needs. Ni Mungu tu atatusaidia. Regards Ndemo.
Bwana PS, The intention is not to hit back, for there can never be any meaningful discussion in a situation of conflict.
Good to notice that you agree that corruption is destroying our country. First step is to accept. Thank you!
In 1961 when President Kennedy inaugurated an ambitious space exploration program in the US, he stated and I quote:
*"I believe we possess all the resources and talents necessary. But the facts of the matter are that we have never made the national decisions or marshaled the national resources required for such leadership. We have never specified long-range goals on an urgent time schedule, or managed our resources and our time so as to insure their fulfillment".* No need to over-emphasize the power that comes from strong and determined state policy for grand achievements. It is to say, let us examine where we are strong and where we are not; and make a decision as a country (with government leadership) that some products, some services, some technologies, some knowledge, some expertise must be home-grown!
For whichever considerations that make us "distribute local television signals" through a foreign firm; host public data in a foreign country....
If you were to resolve (your personal resolve and determination) that some of these things can be done here at home; would you not succeed? Would the Kenyan expertise fail you? What would be the ripple-effect of such an achievement to the local economy and know-how in the future?
lastly, you are right. I did not investigate the "true story about what was published". I have no capacity to do so. But the main thing I noticed and resented, lack of resolve to nature local talent.
Regards Philip
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:41 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Philip, I know there is corruption in this country but the conclusions you make are the ones that destroy this country. I wonder if you you tried to investigate and make an informed conclusion.
The write up did not meet basic journalistic principles in a case where the writer is an interested party. Did it occur to you that there is a glaring conflict of interest in the matter?
Indeed it will take generations before we learn not to make uninformed decisions.
Regards
Ndemo.
When you see "technicality" card being brandished, it simply means no one spoke to any body!
It will take generations before "we" learn to put our national interest above individualistic short-term gain interest. It is terrible, it is bad!
Regards Philip
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:53 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
Just been reading this article,
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Nation++Royal+Media+lose+a... ,
and the print lacks the details but also a reflection is what is happening in developing countries.
Did the local media group have the technical and financial capability to operate signal distribution platforms and roll out the services, yet got dropped out because of tender technicalities. How is this possible? Are we saying kenyans are totally incapable of understanding the requirements or commitments of such national projects?
I hope the affected parties do an indepth review of why they lost out and share that information with kenyans. We need to know, because I'm sure the local media groups were also going to buy technology platforms and implement roll out so issues like delays due to internal manufacture or creation do not even arise.
Some thoughts.
Thank you.
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Dktr: This is one of the few occasions I agree and will stand by you especially when you speak of delicate yet a must balance between investor and consumer interests. Someone also asked a good question on this list - how "local" are some of our local companies? We must not play politics and double standards with this sensitive issue. Any deal cutting by GoK and investors against consumers will be firmly and competently resisted. We are keenly watching this test case. Stephen Mutoro (www.cofek.co.ke) Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: bitange@jambo.co.ke Sender: kictanet-bounces+stephen=cofek.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.keDate: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 19:11:42 To: <stephen@cofek.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row Philip, TV signal distribution is a backbone service that can be done even by any telco. The issuance of channels is the preserve of CCK. There are regulations governing the sector where by the distributor cannot hold more than 20% of the channels. There is no room where any distributor can dominate the market. We now have the greatest opportunity to address the mistakes we made before with spectrum management by allowing as many Kenyans to own the channels as possible. This is the reason why we are giving 3 signal distributor licences. It will bring the necessary competion that will benefit the consumer. Our job is to balance consumer interests and those of the investor. There is no policy to dis=criminate against any country let alone China. If it was, then the entire telkom sector will have to be sold to locals. Whether we can afford it is another matter but it would not be a prudent policy in country that needs FDI. I had told the local broadcasters to make a case for a review considering the investment they have made in which case we shall give the third licence to them but it seems they had a nother agenda. You recall we have been at this before when another foreign enterprises tried to bring competition. Further the more channels we have, the more employment we create since any free to air channell must have at least 40% local content. Any one will understand this simple explanation of our intentions. It is unfortunate that some of you are used to advance an agenda that is contra to your long term needs. Ni Mungu tu atatusaidia. Regards Ndemo.
Bwana PS, The intention is not to hit back, for there can never be any meaningful discussion in a situation of conflict.
Good to notice that you agree that corruption is destroying our country. First step is to accept. Thank you!
In 1961 when President Kennedy inaugurated an ambitious space exploration program in the US, he stated and I quote:
*"I believe we possess all the resources and talents necessary. But the facts of the matter are that we have never made the national decisions or marshaled the national resources required for such leadership. We have never specified long-range goals on an urgent time schedule, or managed our resources and our time so as to insure their fulfillment".* No need to over-emphasize the power that comes from strong and determined state policy for grand achievements. It is to say, let us examine where we are strong and where we are not; and make a decision as a country (with government leadership) that some products, some services, some technologies, some knowledge, some expertise must be home-grown!
For whichever considerations that make us "distribute local television signals" through a foreign firm; host public data in a foreign country....
If you were to resolve (your personal resolve and determination) that some of these things can be done here at home; would you not succeed? Would the Kenyan expertise fail you? What would be the ripple-effect of such an achievement to the local economy and know-how in the future?
lastly, you are right. I did not investigate the "true story about what was published". I have no capacity to do so. But the main thing I noticed and resented, lack of resolve to nature local talent.
Regards Philip
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:41 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Philip, I know there is corruption in this country but the conclusions you make are the ones that destroy this country. I wonder if you you tried to investigate and make an informed conclusion.
The write up did not meet basic journalistic principles in a case where the writer is an interested party. Did it occur to you that there is a glaring conflict of interest in the matter?
Indeed it will take generations before we learn not to make uninformed decisions.
Regards
Ndemo.
When you see "technicality" card being brandished, it simply means no one spoke to any body!
It will take generations before "we" learn to put our national interest above individualistic short-term gain interest. It is terrible, it is bad!
Regards Philip
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:53 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
Just been reading this article,
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Nation++Royal+Media+lose+a... ,
and the print lacks the details but also a reflection is what is happening in developing countries.
Did the local media group have the technical and financial capability to operate signal distribution platforms and roll out the services, yet got dropped out because of tender technicalities. How is this possible? Are we saying kenyans are totally incapable of understanding the requirements or commitments of such national projects?
I hope the affected parties do an indepth review of why they lost out and share that information with kenyans. We need to know, because I'm sure the local media groups were also going to buy technology platforms and implement roll out so issues like delays due to internal manufacture or creation do not even arise.
Some thoughts.
Thank you.
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I think arguing only the merits of the bids in the context of telcoms (a strategic/security issue) will only provide half the answers. The country is in political transition and headed into another election where the jury on peace is still out. In the last few weeks, I have noticed political bias starting to appear in TV coverage depending on the political affiliations of the owners. The media may forget itself again in the heat of the election competition and I would not be suprised if someone in govt. wants the power to switch stations off - the Chinese can do this but local media houses would find this unacceptable. Hopefully, if media demonstrate maturity next year, govt. may cease to be concerned about who controls the signals. Its not a nice picture for media freedoms or harnessing local capacity for that matter. But there may hard realities the govt. may need to be ready to deal with. On the other hand, I may be entirely wrong and it may well be that the Chinese bribe was the biggest!..(another of our hard realities) Wamuyu
Just got two interesting alternative views on the above at the ongoing Kenya IGF. 1. the Chair of the Parliamentary Group, Eng. Rege feels that giving out the National Digital Signal Distribution network to a foreigner exposes the nation to potential sabotage. What would happen if the Chinese decided to switch of the distribution when "the 2012 votes are being counted?" 2. the PS, Dr. Ndemo feels that that may really not arise for two reasons,(1) that there will be competition in that market, we shall have multiple national signal distributors and (2) Most of this signal distribution platforms will be over the Internet Cloud and hence the idea of switching off the channel may not be that simple (though it did happen in Egypt ;-) the debate continues... walu. --- On Fri, 7/22/11, Wamuyu Gatheru <wamuyu@soko-id.co.ke> wrote: From: Wamuyu Gatheru <wamuyu@soko-id.co.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, July 22, 2011, 10:31 AM I think arguing only the merits of the bids in the context of telcoms (a strategic/security issue) will only provide half the answers. The country is in political transition and headed into another election where the jury on peace is still out. In the last few weeks, I have noticed political bias starting to appear in TV coverage depending on the political affiliations of the owners. The media may forget itself again in the heat of the election competition and I would not be suprised if someone in govt. wants the power to switch stations off - the Chinese can do this but local media houses would find this unacceptable. Hopefully, if media demonstrate maturity next year, govt. may cease to be concerned about who controls the signals. Its not a nice picture for media freedoms or harnessing local capacity for that matter. But there may hard realities the govt. may need to be ready to deal with. On the other hand, I may be entirely wrong and it may well be that the Chinese bribe was the biggest!..(another of our hard realities) Wamuyu _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Why such strong defense for the Chinese? Why not have a national policy that signal distribution should be done by locals only? I'm a greenhorn in the area of signal distribution - can someone with expertise and experience in this area tell us the pros and cons? We need more insights. Edith From: kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 12:44 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row-@Kenya IGF Just got two interesting alternative views on the above at the ongoing Kenya IGF. 1. the Chair of the Parliamentary Group, Eng. Rege feels that giving out the National Digital Signal Distribution network to a foreigner exposes the nation to potential sabotage. What would happen if the Chinese decided to switch of the distribution when "the 2012 votes are being counted?" 2. the PS, Dr. Ndemo feels that that may really not arise for two reasons,(1) that there will be competition in that market, we shall have multiple national signal distributors and (2) Most of this signal distribution platforms will be over the Internet Cloud and hence the idea of switching off the channel may not be that simple (though it did happen in Egypt ;-) the debate continues... walu. --- On Fri, 7/22/11, Wamuyu Gatheru <wamuyu@soko-id.co.ke<mailto:wamuyu@soko-id.co.ke>> wrote: From: Wamuyu Gatheru <wamuyu@soko-id.co.ke<mailto:wamuyu@soko-id.co.ke>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row To: jwalu@yahoo.com<mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Date: Friday, July 22, 2011, 10:31 AM I think arguing only the merits of the bids in the context of telcoms (a strategic/security issue) will only provide half the answers. The country is in political transition and headed into another election where the jury on peace is still out. In the last few weeks, I have noticed political bias starting to appear in TV coverage depending on the political affiliations of the owners. The media may forget itself again in the heat of the election competition and I would not be suprised if someone in govt. wants the power to switch stations off - the Chinese can do this but local media houses would find this unacceptable. Hopefully, if media demonstrate maturity next year, govt. may cease to be concerned about who controls the signals. Its not a nice picture for media freedoms or harnessing local capacity for that matter. But there may hard realities the govt. may need to be ready to deal with. On the other hand, I may be entirely wrong and it may well be that the Chinese bribe was the biggest!..(another of our hard realities) Wamuyu _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
A signal distribution market involves building of multiplexing platforms and signal transmission infrastructure for the purpose of distributing multimedia signals (video, audio and data). in terms of digital migration, SD provider is a key player in the digital migration process. under a unified licensing framework at the CCK, this is an infrastructure market segment capable of providing services beyound broadcasting. it is important to remember that broadcasting subsector holds a host of other market segments rather than what we usually know as free to air or if you may wish call it "free through advertisement" (FTA). this particular market segment is just a diminishing market in the wake of new media platforms thanks to the rapid evolvement of ICT technologies. there are many emerging technologies arising from this market supporting tripple play that are are blurring the boundary between broadcasting and telecommunications and this may explain why players in the SD market should understand the dynamics surrounding the provision of services under this market segment. suffice to say, there are only about 3.5M TV sets in the country from the last censors report against an investment of close to Ksh.4Billion for each signal distribution network for the SD licences that are to be given in this market segment. Currently, SIGNET is the only licensed public signal distributor which the Government is funding inorder to roll-out throughout the country and to fulfill its public service obligations. the Licences that were advertised were for commercial SD and therefore are only necessary to give Kenyans alternatives and to spur the spin-offs of digital migration and was done inline with public procurement rules and regulations, the ICT sector policy, Information and Communications Act cap 411A and all players were accorded equal opportunity. there are enough safety nets in place ranging from competition to contructural obligations in the licence to offered in the unfortunate but rare circumstances should an investor who has poured a cool Ksh. 4Billion wishes to switch off his network simply because of an election. why therefore a hulabaloo about this transparent process? if you join a race and develop a muscle pull along the way, you cannot be carried on the stretcher to a finishing line and be declared a winner simply because the race is being held in your country. it is also important for us to call on our media houses to practice the principle of fair doctrine which demands that when reporting adversely against an entity then that entity is given an equal measure to respond inorder to enable listners/readers make fairand informed judgement about the story. ________________________________ From: kictanet-bounces+wangusi=cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke on behalf of Edith Adera Sent: Fri 7/22/2011 1:07 PM To: Wangusi, Francis Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row-@Kenya IGF Why such strong defense for the Chinese? Why not have a national policy that signal distribution should be done by locals only? I'm a greenhorn in the area of signal distribution - can someone with expertise and experience in this area tell us the pros and cons? We need more insights. Edith From: kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 12:44 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row-@Kenya IGF Just got two interesting alternative views on the above at the ongoing Kenya IGF. 1. the Chair of the Parliamentary Group, Eng. Rege feels that giving out the National Digital Signal Distribution network to a foreigner exposes the nation to potential sabotage. What would happen if the Chinese decided to switch of the distribution when "the 2012 votes are being counted?" 2. the PS, Dr. Ndemo feels that that may really not arise for two reasons,(1) that there will be competition in that market, we shall have multiple national signal distributors and (2) Most of this signal distribution platforms will be over the Internet Cloud and hence the idea of switching off the channel may not be that simple (though it did happen in Egypt ;-) the debate continues... walu. --- On Fri, 7/22/11, Wamuyu Gatheru <wamuyu@soko-id.co.ke> wrote: From: Wamuyu Gatheru <wamuyu@soko-id.co.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, July 22, 2011, 10:31 AM I think arguing only the merits of the bids in the context of telcoms (a strategic/security issue) will only provide half the answers. The country is in political transition and headed into another election where the jury on peace is still out. In the last few weeks, I have noticed political bias starting to appear in TV coverage depending on the political affiliations of the owners. The media may forget itself again in the heat of the election competition and I would not be suprised if someone in govt. wants the power to switch stations off - the Chinese can do this but local media houses would find this unacceptable. Hopefully, if media demonstrate maturity next year, govt. may cease to be concerned about who controls the signals. Its not a nice picture for media freedoms or harnessing local capacity for that matter. But there may hard realities the govt. may need to be ready to deal with. On the other hand, I may be entirely wrong and it may well be that the Chinese bribe was the biggest!..(another of our hard realities) Wamuyu _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Check out http://www.safaricom.co.ke/index.php?id=241 I have been subscribing to the 1,000Ksh (10$) a month for only 300MB of data. Which could disappear in 1day if I attempted to watch youtube/video on this. Now for the same price, I will gel 1,500MB i.e. 3times for data sizes. I think I like this and we are definitely moving in the right direction. Qtn however for the Operator is whether this is permanent or after 1mth, we might be told it was test...and another for the Regulator: How will you tell if the Operator is (not) is compromising on the speeds (technically: ensure contention ratios are fair and customers dont pay affordable speeds only to get congested - common with traditional fixed internet service providers). That said, we must agree that these are indeed interesting times to be in Kenya. walu.
@Wangusi, thanx for the detailed insight. I think media houses need to be more committed to a balanced reporting in future. Whatever happened to their mantra " there are two sides to every story" walu. --- On Fri, 7/22/11, Wangusi, Francis <Wangusi@cck.go.ke> wrote: From: Wangusi, Francis <Wangusi@cck.go.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row-@Kenya IGF To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, July 22, 2011, 3:48 PM A signal distribution market involves building of multiplexing platforms and signal transmission infrastructure for the purpose of distributing multimedia signals (video, audio and data). in terms of digital migration, SD provider is a key player in the digital migration process. under a unified licensing framework at the CCK, this is an infrastructure market segment capable of providing services beyound broadcasting. it is important to remember that broadcasting subsector holds a host of other market segments rather than what we usually know as free to air or if you may wish call it "free through advertisement" (FTA). this particular market segment is just a diminishing market in the wake of new media platforms thanks to the rapid evolvement of ICT technologies. there are many emerging technologies arising from this market supporting tripple play that are are blurring the boundary between broadcasting and telecommunications and this may explain why players in the SD market should understand the dynamics surrounding the provision of services under this market segment. suffice to say, there are only about 3.5M TV sets in the country from the last censors report against an investment of close to Ksh.4Billion for each signal distribution network for the SD licences that are to be given in this market segment. Currently, SIGNET is the only licensed public signal distributor which the Government is funding inorder to roll-out throughout the country and to fulfill its public service obligations. the Licences that were advertised were for commercial SD and therefore are only necessary to give Kenyans alternatives and to spur the spin-offs of digital migration and was done inline with public procurement rules and regulations, the ICT sector policy, Information and Communications Act cap 411A and all players were accorded equal opportunity. there are enough safety nets in place ranging from competition to contructural obligations in the licence to offered in the unfortunate but rare circumstances should an investor who has poured a cool Ksh. 4Billion wishes to switch off his network simply because of an election. why therefore a hulabaloo about this transparent process? if you join a race and develop a muscle pull along the way, you cannot be carried on the stretcher to a finishing line and be declared a winner simply because the race is being held in your country. it is also important for us to call on our media houses to practice the principle of fair doctrine which demands that when reporting adversely against an entity then that entity is given an equal measure to respond inorder to enable listners/readers make fairand informed judgement about the story. From: kictanet-bounces+wangusi=cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke on behalf of Edith Adera Sent: Fri 7/22/2011 1:07 PM To: Wangusi, Francis Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row-@Kenya IGF Why such strong defense for the Chinese? Why not have a national policy that signal distribution should be done by locals only? I’m a greenhorn in the area of signal distribution – can someone with expertise and experience in this area tell us the pros and cons? We need more insights. Edith From: kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 12:44 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row-@Kenya IGF Just got two interesting alternative views on the above at the ongoing Kenya IGF. 1. the Chair of the Parliamentary Group, Eng. Rege feels that giving out the National Digital Signal Distribution network to a foreigner exposes the nation to potential sabotage. What would happen if the Chinese decided to switch of the distribution when "the 2012 votes are being counted?" 2. the PS, Dr. Ndemo feels that that may really not arise for two reasons,(1) that there will be competition in that market, we shall have multiple national signal distributors and (2) Most of this signal distribution platforms will be over the Internet Cloud and hence the idea of switching off the channel may not be that simple (though it did happen in Egypt ;-) the debate continues... walu. --- On Fri, 7/22/11, Wamuyu Gatheru <wamuyu@soko-id.co.ke> wrote: From: Wamuyu Gatheru <wamuyu@soko-id.co.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, July 22, 2011, 10:31 AM I think arguing only the merits of the bids in the context of telcoms (a strategic/security issue) will only provide half the answers. The country is in political transition and headed into another election where the jury on peace is still out. In the last few weeks, I have noticed political bias starting to appear in TV coverage depending on the political affiliations of the owners. The media may forget itself again in the heat of the election competition and I would not be suprised if someone in govt. wants the power to switch stations off - the Chinese can do this but local media houses would find this unacceptable. Hopefully, if media demonstrate maturity next year, govt. may cease to be concerned about who controls the signals. Its not a nice picture for media freedoms or harnessing local capacity for that matter. But there may hard realities the govt. may need to be ready to deal with. On the other hand, I may be entirely wrong and it may well be that the Chinese bribe was the biggest!..(another of our hard realities) Wamuyu _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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Walu, The media in Kenya is competing thus the hiatus when it comes to balanced information. And again, it depends on who is controlling a media house, since he's got majority of shares & control. On 22/07/2011, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Wangusi,
thanx for the detailed insight. I think media houses need to be more committed to a balanced reporting in future. Whatever happened to their mantra " there are two sides to every story"
walu.
--- On Fri, 7/22/11, Wangusi, Francis <Wangusi@cck.go.ke> wrote:
From: Wangusi, Francis <Wangusi@cck.go.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row-@Kenya IGF To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, July 22, 2011, 3:48 PM
A signal distribution market involves building of multiplexing platforms and signal transmission infrastructure for the purpose of distributing multimedia signals (video, audio and data). in terms of digital migration, SD provider is a key player in the digital migration process. under a unified licensing framework at the CCK, this is an infrastructure market segment capable of providing services beyound broadcasting. it is important to remember that broadcasting subsector holds a host of other market segments rather than what we usually know as free to air or if you may wish call it "free through advertisement" (FTA). this particular market segment is just a diminishing market in the wake of new media platforms thanks to the rapid evolvement of ICT technologies. there are many emerging technologies arising from this market supporting tripple play that are are blurring the boundary between broadcasting and telecommunications and this may explain why players in the SD market should understand the dynamics surrounding the provision of services under this market segment.
suffice to say, there are only about 3.5M TV sets in the country from the last censors report against an investment of close to Ksh.4Billion for each signal distribution network for the SD licences that are to be given in this market segment. Currently, SIGNET is the only licensed public signal distributor which the Government is funding inorder to roll-out throughout the country and to fulfill its public service obligations. the Licences that were advertised were for commercial SD and therefore are only necessary to give Kenyans alternatives and to spur the spin-offs of digital migration and was done inline with public procurement rules and regulations, the ICT sector policy, Information and Communications Act cap 411A and all players were accorded equal opportunity. there are enough safety nets in place ranging from competition to contructural obligations in the licence to offered in the unfortunate but rare circumstances should an investor who has poured a cool Ksh. 4Billion wishes to switch off his network simply because of an election. why therefore a hulabaloo about this transparent process? if you join a race and develop a muscle pull along the way, you cannot be carried on the stretcher to a finishing line and be declared a winner simply because the race is being held in your country. it is also important for us to call on our media houses to practice the principle of fair doctrine which demands that when reporting adversely against an entity then that entity is given an equal measure to respond inorder to enable listners/readers make fairand informed judgement about the story.
From: kictanet-bounces+wangusi=cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke on behalf of Edith Adera Sent: Fri 7/22/2011 1:07 PM To: Wangusi, Francis Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row-@Kenya IGF
Why such strong defense for the Chinese? Why not have a national policy that signal distribution should be done by locals only? I’m a greenhorn in the area of signal distribution – can someone with expertise and experience in this area tell us the pros and cons? We need more insights.
Edith
From: kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 12:44 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row-@Kenya IGF
Just got two interesting alternative views on the above at the ongoing Kenya IGF.
1. the Chair of the Parliamentary Group, Eng. Rege feels that giving out the National Digital Signal Distribution network to a foreigner exposes the nation to potential sabotage. What would happen if the Chinese decided to switch of the distribution when "the 2012 votes are being counted?"
2. the PS, Dr. Ndemo feels that that may really not arise for two reasons,(1) that there will be competition in that market, we shall have multiple national signal distributors and (2) Most of this signal distribution platforms will be over the Internet Cloud and hence the idea of switching off the channel may not be that simple (though it did happen in Egypt ;-)
the debate continues... walu.
--- On Fri, 7/22/11, Wamuyu Gatheru <wamuyu@soko-id.co.ke> wrote:
From: Wamuyu Gatheru <wamuyu@soko-id.co.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, July 22, 2011, 10:31 AM
I think arguing only the merits of the bids in the context of telcoms (a strategic/security issue) will only provide half the answers. The country is in political transition and headed into another election where the jury on peace is still out. In the last few weeks, I have noticed political bias starting to appear in TV coverage depending on the political affiliations of the owners. The media may forget itself again in the heat of the election competition and I would not be suprised if someone in govt. wants the power to switch stations off - the Chinese can do this but local media houses would find this unacceptable.
Hopefully, if media demonstrate maturity next year, govt. may cease to be concerned about who controls the signals.
Its not a nice picture for media freedoms or harnessing local capacity for that matter. But there may hard realities the govt. may need to be ready to deal with.
On the other hand, I may be entirely wrong and it may well be that the Chinese bribe was the biggest!..(another of our hard realities)
Wamuyu
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*WHY THE DIGITAL TELEVISION SWITCHOVER IS IMPORTANT FOR KENYANS* *What is the Digital TV Switchover? * The digital television switchover simply means that the technology that enables you to view programs on your television set will change from analogue to digital. *What is the difference between analogue television and digital television?* In a nutshell, for every channel available on analogue television, digital television enables the viewer to get up to 20 times more channels. For the television industry, the core difference is in who does the distribution of content. In analogue, each TV broadcaster (e.g. Nation, Citizen, KTN, and Family TV) produced content *and then *builds a network to distribute their own content. In digital, all the current TV companies (KTN, NTV, Citizen, K24, Kiss) will become content producers and only a few will become signal distributors. *Why should Kenya switch from analogue to digital?* This is a global change that has been agreed by all countries that are members of the International Telecommunications Union. The global deadline for switch over is December 2015. *What was the CCK tender about?* To facilitate the digital switchover, the Communications Commission of Kenya decided to split the television broadcast market into two segments: signal distributors and content providers. With analogue technology, a TV broadcaster got 1 license that allowed them to both provide their own content and distribute it to viewers using analogue signal networks. With digital technology, there will be 2 new separate licenses – one for signal distribution and another for content distribution. Incumbent broadcasters are then required to apply afresh to CCK for the licenses that they want to continue with. Signal distributors are companies that build, own and manage television signal networks. The transmission networks comprise frequencies, satellite capacity, masts, towers, transmitters, antennae and other technology that make it possible to send television programs from the television studios over the airwaves to television sets to households across the country. *How do Kenyan TV broadcasters come in?* Many of the Kenyan TV broadcasters are actually already signal distributors. Nation Media Group and Royal Media Services - actually are already signal distributors, except that the technology they use is analogue. They own signal distribution networks that they have built for over 10 years and invested billions of shillings in. Given the new sector laws and regulations, they are compelled to apply afresh to the Communications Commission of Kenya to become digital signal distributors. If CCK locks them out of the sector, they stand to lose billions of shillings. Content providers are companies that develop, produce, buy and acquire television content. All television companies in Kenya today including KTN, K24, Family Media and Kiss FM are content providers. They will all have to surrender their frequencies to the CCK who will re-issue them to the signal distributors. They will then focus on providing content. Those that want to distribute signals are required to apply afresh for a signal distributor license. The signal distributors will therefore carry all the programs that the content providers submit to viewers on their television sets. What is important to note is that to enable efficient use, there will be only a few signal distributors. Content providers on the other hand can be as many as capacity allows. *CURRENT SITUATION* CCK decided to license a government corporation – the Kenya Broadcasting Corporation to become a digital signal distributor. In March 2011, the CCK advertised tenders for award of 2 licenses to operate a Broadcast Signal Distribution Network in Kenya purportedly to enable the media in Kenya to participate in the nationally critical area of signal distribution. Nation Media Group and Royal Media Services – the two largest broadcasters in Kenya formed a consortium – *National Signal Networks* - which bid for one of the licenses. In total six companies were pre-qualified. Kenyan broadcasters were represented by 2 consortia – National Signal Networks representing Nation Media Group Limited and Signal Distributors Limited representing Radio Africa, Standard Media Group, and Mediamax among others. Because Kenyan broadcasters were extremely concerned that the broadcasting industry in Kenya should be allocated at least 1 license, Signal Distributors Limited withdrew its bid and supported the National Signal Networks bid. By the submission deadline, only 4 companies submitted their tender. 3 were Kenyan and 1 was Chinese. The Communications Commission of Kenya then decided to disqualify all the Kenyan bidders on technicalities and awarded only 1 license instead of the advertised 2. The license was issued to a Chinese company Pan African Network Group Ltd, which is owned by Star Times Network of China. *WHAT IS THE IMPACT ON THE MEDIA AND BROADCASTING INDUSTRY?* *There are 2 core impact areas: Media Freedom and losses of investments made.* *MEDIA FREEDOM: * Under analogue, each broadcaster had full control of their own signals. This enables international levels of media freedom. The government could only control the media by brutal and coercive force. Under digital, control of signals will be surrendered to a few companies. Media owners will not be able to directly prevent censorship and muzzling. The government can muzzle, censor and control all broadcasters by simply intimidating the 1 or 2 signal distributors that it has licensed. To illustrate this, during the 2007 election crisis, with analogue television the government could only control the media at gun point. And it would have had to do this in up to 20 media houses. Under digital television, it only needs to threaten the 2 signal distributors. The reason the CCK decision is dangerous for media freedom and the functioning of a modern democracy is that the CCK has chosen to hand over control of the airwaves to a government parastatal (KBC) and a company from communist China. Kenyan media organizations will have absolutely no ability to ensure that news reaches the masses - however positive or negative of the government it might be and however critical the national issues might be. This will have the effect of making the media in Kenya impotent. *LOSSES OF INVESTMENT* Nation media Group and Royal Media Services *have already investments over a billion dollars in signal distribution*. Hundreds of Kenyans work hard every day to manage these complex and huge networks from Mombasa to Busia and Lodwar to Namanga. By locking out Kenyan broadcasters from this sector, CCK will cause massive losses to Kenyan broadcasters some of whom are publicly quoted companies with hundreds of thousands of shareholders. The Kenyans who manage these networks will be forced into unemployment in these tough economic times. On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Wangusi,
thanx for the detailed insight. I think media houses need to be more committed to a balanced reporting in future. Whatever happened to their mantra " there are two sides to every story"
walu.
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From: Wangusi, Francis <Wangusi@cck.go.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row-@Kenya IGF
To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, July 22, 2011, 3:48 PM
A signal distribution market involves building of multiplexing platforms and signal transmission infrastructure for the purpose of distributing multimedia signals (video, audio and data). in terms of digital migration, SD provider is a key player in the digital migration process. under a unified licensing framework at the CCK, this is an infrastructure market segment capable of providing services beyound broadcasting. it is important to remember that broadcasting subsector holds a host of other market segments rather than what we usually know as free to air or if you may wish call it "free through advertisement" (FTA). this particular market segment is just a diminishing market in the wake of new media platforms thanks to the rapid evolvement of ICT technologies. there are many emerging technologies arising from this market supporting tripple play that are are blurring the boundary between broadcasting and telecommunications and this may explain why players in the SD market should understand the dynamics surrounding the provision of services under this market segment.
suffice to say, there are only about 3.5M TV sets in the country from the last censors report against an investment of close to Ksh.4Billion for each signal distribution network for the SD licences that are to be given in this market segment. Currently, SIGNET is the only licensed public signal distributor which the Government is funding inorder to roll-out throughout the country and to fulfill its public service obligations. the Licences that were advertised were for commercial SD and therefore are only necessary to give Kenyans alternatives and to spur the spin-offs of digital migration and was done inline with public procurement rules and regulations, the ICT sector policy, Information and Communications Act cap 411A and all players were accorded equal opportunity. there are enough safety nets in place ranging from competition to contructural obligations in the licence to offered in the unfortunate but rare circumstances should an investor who has poured a cool Ksh. 4Billion wishes to switch off his network simply because of an election. why therefore a hulabaloo about this transparent process? if you join a race and develop a muscle pull along the way, you cannot be carried on the stretcher to a finishing line and be declared a winner simply because the race is being held in your country. it is also important for us to call on our media houses to practice the principle of fair doctrine which demands that when reporting adversely against an entity then that entity is given an equal measure to respond inorder to enable listners/readers make fairand informed judgement about the story.
------------------------------ *From:* kictanet-bounces+wangusi=cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke on behalf of Edith Adera *Sent:* Fri 7/22/2011 1:07 PM *To:* Wangusi, Francis *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row-@Kenya IGF
Why such strong defense for the Chinese? Why not have a national policy that signal distribution should be done by locals only? I’m a greenhorn in the area of signal distribution – can someone with expertise and experience in this area tell us the pros and cons? We need more insights.
Edith
*From:* kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto: kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Walubengo J *Sent:* Friday, July 22, 2011 12:44 PM *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row-@Kenya IGF
Just got two interesting alternative views on the above at the ongoing Kenya IGF.
1. the Chair of the Parliamentary Group, Eng. Rege feels that giving out the National Digital Signal Distribution network to a foreigner exposes the nation to potential sabotage. What would happen if the Chinese decided to switch of the distribution when "the 2012 votes are being counted?"
2. the PS, Dr. Ndemo feels that that may really not arise for two reasons,(1) that there will be competition in that market, we shall have multiple national signal distributors and (2) Most of this signal distribution platforms will be over the Internet Cloud and hence the idea of switching off the channel may not be that simple (though it did happen in Egypt ;-)
the debate continues... walu.
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From: Wamuyu Gatheru <wamuyu@soko-id.co.ke<http://mc/compose?to=wamuyu@soko-id.co.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row To: jwalu@yahoo.com <http://mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<http://mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Date: Friday, July 22, 2011, 10:31 AM
I think arguing only the merits of the bids in the context of telcoms (a strategic/security issue) will only provide half the answers. The country is in political transition and headed into another election where the jury on peace is still out. In the last few weeks, I have noticed political bias starting to appear in TV coverage depending on the political affiliations of the owners. The media may forget itself again in the heat of the election competition and I would not be suprised if someone in govt. wants the power to switch stations off - the Chinese can do this but local media houses would find this unacceptable.
Hopefully, if media demonstrate maturity next year, govt. may cease to be concerned about who controls the signals.
Its not a nice picture for media freedoms or harnessing local capacity for that matter. But there may hard realities the govt. may need to be ready to deal with.
On the other hand, I may be entirely wrong and it may well be that the Chinese bribe was the biggest!..(another of our hard realities)
Wamuyu
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Thank you very much Francis and Eng. Wainaina for the great insights. This signal business is turning out to be a matter of public, national, and sovereign issue. I wonder what was the conclusion at the IGF at AFRALTI! And will the third signal license be issued? And can these signal licenses be increased, say to five? This is the time point where Barrack and Walubengo calls for a TOWN HALL like meeting! Regards Mwendwa On 22/07/2011, Eng. Wainaina Mungai <wainaina.mungai@gmail.com> wrote:
*WHY THE DIGITAL TELEVISION SWITCHOVER IS IMPORTANT FOR KENYANS*
*What is the Digital TV Switchover? *
The digital television switchover simply means that the technology that enables you to view programs on your television set will change from analogue to digital.
*What is the difference between analogue television and digital television?*
In a nutshell, for every channel available on analogue television, digital television enables the viewer to get up to 20 times more channels.
For the television industry, the core difference is in who does the distribution of content. In analogue, each TV broadcaster (e.g. Nation, Citizen, KTN, and Family TV) produced content *and then *builds a network to distribute their own content. In digital, all the current TV companies (KTN, NTV, Citizen, K24, Kiss) will become content producers and only a few will become signal distributors.
*Why should Kenya switch from analogue to digital?*
This is a global change that has been agreed by all countries that are members of the International Telecommunications Union. The global deadline for switch over is December 2015.
*What was the CCK tender about?*
To facilitate the digital switchover, the Communications Commission of Kenya decided to split the television broadcast market into two segments: signal distributors and content providers. With analogue technology, a TV broadcaster got 1 license that allowed them to both provide their own content and distribute it to viewers using analogue signal networks. With digital technology, there will be 2 new separate licenses – one for signal distribution and another for content distribution. Incumbent broadcasters are then required to apply afresh to CCK for the licenses that they want to continue with.
Signal distributors are companies that build, own and manage television signal networks. The transmission networks comprise frequencies, satellite capacity, masts, towers, transmitters, antennae and other technology that make it possible to send television programs from the television studios over the airwaves to television sets to households across the country.
*How do Kenyan TV broadcasters come in?*
Many of the Kenyan TV broadcasters are actually already signal distributors. Nation Media Group and Royal Media Services - actually are already signal distributors, except that the technology they use is analogue. They own signal distribution networks that they have built for over 10 years and invested billions of shillings in. Given the new sector laws and regulations, they are compelled to apply afresh to the Communications Commission of Kenya to become digital signal distributors. If CCK locks them out of the sector, they stand to lose billions of shillings.
Content providers are companies that develop, produce, buy and acquire television content. All television companies in Kenya today including KTN, K24, Family Media and Kiss FM are content providers. They will all have to surrender their frequencies to the CCK who will re-issue them to the signal distributors. They will then focus on providing content. Those that want to distribute signals are required to apply afresh for a signal distributor license.
The signal distributors will therefore carry all the programs that the content providers submit to viewers on their television sets. What is important to note is that to enable efficient use, there will be only a few signal distributors. Content providers on the other hand can be as many as capacity allows.
*CURRENT SITUATION*
CCK decided to license a government corporation – the Kenya Broadcasting Corporation to become a digital signal distributor. In March 2011, the CCK advertised tenders for award of 2 licenses to operate a Broadcast Signal Distribution Network in Kenya purportedly to enable the media in Kenya to participate in the nationally critical area of signal distribution.
Nation Media Group and Royal Media Services – the two largest broadcasters in Kenya formed a consortium – *National Signal Networks* - which bid for one of the licenses. In total six companies were pre-qualified. Kenyan broadcasters were represented by 2 consortia – National Signal Networks representing Nation Media Group Limited and Signal Distributors Limited representing Radio Africa, Standard Media Group, and Mediamax among others. Because Kenyan broadcasters were extremely concerned that the broadcasting industry in Kenya should be allocated at least 1 license, Signal Distributors Limited withdrew its bid and supported the National Signal Networks bid. By the submission deadline, only 4 companies submitted their tender. 3 were Kenyan and 1 was Chinese.
The Communications Commission of Kenya then decided to disqualify all the Kenyan bidders on technicalities and awarded only 1 license instead of the advertised 2. The license was issued to a Chinese company Pan African Network Group Ltd, which is owned by Star Times Network of China.
*WHAT IS THE IMPACT ON THE MEDIA AND BROADCASTING INDUSTRY?*
*There are 2 core impact areas: Media Freedom and losses of investments made.*
*MEDIA FREEDOM: *
Under analogue, each broadcaster had full control of their own signals. This enables international levels of media freedom. The government could only control the media by brutal and coercive force. Under digital, control of signals will be surrendered to a few companies. Media owners will not be able to directly prevent censorship and muzzling. The government can muzzle, censor and control all broadcasters by simply intimidating the 1 or 2 signal distributors that it has licensed. To illustrate this, during the 2007 election crisis, with analogue television the government could only control the media at gun point. And it would have had to do this in up to 20 media houses. Under digital television, it only needs to threaten the 2 signal distributors.
The reason the CCK decision is dangerous for media freedom and the functioning of a modern democracy is that the CCK has chosen to hand over control of the airwaves to a government parastatal (KBC) and a company from communist China. Kenyan media organizations will have absolutely no ability to ensure that news reaches the masses - however positive or negative of the government it might be and however critical the national issues might be. This will have the effect of making the media in Kenya impotent.
*LOSSES OF INVESTMENT*
Nation media Group and Royal Media Services *have already investments over a billion dollars in signal distribution*. Hundreds of Kenyans work hard every day to manage these complex and huge networks from Mombasa to Busia and Lodwar to Namanga. By locking out Kenyan broadcasters from this sector, CCK will cause massive losses to Kenyan broadcasters some of whom are publicly quoted companies with hundreds of thousands of shareholders. The Kenyans who manage these networks will be forced into unemployment in these tough economic times.
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Wangusi,
thanx for the detailed insight. I think media houses need to be more committed to a balanced reporting in future. Whatever happened to their mantra " there are two sides to every story"
walu.
--- On *Fri, 7/22/11, Wangusi, Francis <Wangusi@cck.go.ke>* wrote:
From: Wangusi, Francis <Wangusi@cck.go.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row-@Kenya IGF
To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, July 22, 2011, 3:48 PM
A signal distribution market involves building of multiplexing platforms and signal transmission infrastructure for the purpose of distributing multimedia signals (video, audio and data). in terms of digital migration, SD provider is a key player in the digital migration process. under a unified licensing framework at the CCK, this is an infrastructure market segment capable of providing services beyound broadcasting. it is important to remember that broadcasting subsector holds a host of other market segments rather than what we usually know as free to air or if you may wish call it "free through advertisement" (FTA). this particular market segment is just a diminishing market in the wake of new media platforms thanks to the rapid evolvement of ICT technologies. there are many emerging technologies arising from this market supporting tripple play that are are blurring the boundary between broadcasting and telecommunications and this may explain why players in the SD market should understand the dynamics surrounding the provision of services under this market segment.
suffice to say, there are only about 3.5M TV sets in the country from the last censors report against an investment of close to Ksh.4Billion for each signal distribution network for the SD licences that are to be given in this market segment. Currently, SIGNET is the only licensed public signal distributor which the Government is funding inorder to roll-out throughout the country and to fulfill its public service obligations. the Licences that were advertised were for commercial SD and therefore are only necessary to give Kenyans alternatives and to spur the spin-offs of digital migration and was done inline with public procurement rules and regulations, the ICT sector policy, Information and Communications Act cap 411A and all players were accorded equal opportunity. there are enough safety nets in place ranging from competition to contructural obligations in the licence to offered in the unfortunate but rare circumstances should an investor who has poured a cool Ksh. 4Billion wishes to switch off his network simply because of an election. why therefore a hulabaloo about this transparent process? if you join a race and develop a muscle pull along the way, you cannot be carried on the stretcher to a finishing line and be declared a winner simply because the race is being held in your country. it is also important for us to call on our media houses to practice the principle of fair doctrine which demands that when reporting adversely against an entity then that entity is given an equal measure to respond inorder to enable listners/readers make fairand informed judgement about the story.
------------------------------ *From:* kictanet-bounces+wangusi=cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke on behalf of Edith Adera *Sent:* Fri 7/22/2011 1:07 PM *To:* Wangusi, Francis *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row-@Kenya IGF
Why such strong defense for the Chinese? Why not have a national policy that signal distribution should be done by locals only? I’m a greenhorn in the area of signal distribution – can someone with expertise and experience in this area tell us the pros and cons? We need more insights.
Edith
*From:* kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto: kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Walubengo J *Sent:* Friday, July 22, 2011 12:44 PM *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row-@Kenya IGF
Just got two interesting alternative views on the above at the ongoing Kenya IGF.
1. the Chair of the Parliamentary Group, Eng. Rege feels that giving out the National Digital Signal Distribution network to a foreigner exposes the nation to potential sabotage. What would happen if the Chinese decided to switch of the distribution when "the 2012 votes are being counted?"
2. the PS, Dr. Ndemo feels that that may really not arise for two reasons,(1) that there will be competition in that market, we shall have multiple national signal distributors and (2) Most of this signal distribution platforms will be over the Internet Cloud and hence the idea of switching off the channel may not be that simple (though it did happen in Egypt ;-)
the debate continues... walu.
--- On *Fri, 7/22/11, Wamuyu Gatheru <wamuyu@soko-id.co.ke<http://mc/compose?to=wamuyu@soko-id.co.ke>
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From: Wamuyu Gatheru <wamuyu@soko-id.co.ke<http://mc/compose?to=wamuyu@soko-id.co.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row To: jwalu@yahoo.com <http://mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<http://mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Date: Friday, July 22, 2011, 10:31 AM
I think arguing only the merits of the bids in the context of telcoms (a strategic/security issue) will only provide half the answers. The country is in political transition and headed into another election where the jury on peace is still out. In the last few weeks, I have noticed political bias starting to appear in TV coverage depending on the political affiliations of the owners. The media may forget itself again in the heat of the election competition and I would not be suprised if someone in govt. wants the power to switch stations off - the Chinese can do this but local media houses would find this unacceptable.
Hopefully, if media demonstrate maturity next year, govt. may cease to be concerned about who controls the signals.
Its not a nice picture for media freedoms or harnessing local capacity for that matter. But there may hard realities the govt. may need to be ready to deal with.
On the other hand, I may be entirely wrong and it may well be that the Chinese bribe was the biggest!..(another of our hard realities)
Wamuyu
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I,m tempted to further add my views on this subject in light of the assertion by Eng. Wainaina Mungai that actually the self provisioning of a network to distribute analog broadcast signals in areas broadcasters have been authorized to broadcast amounts to being signal distributors. first of all, I appreciate his explanation regarding part of the business of a signal distributor as to distribute broadcast programs on behalf of licensed broadcasters to areas authorized by the Regulator to provide the broadcasting service. However, Eng. is not coming clear that besides this segment of the signal distibutor market he highlighted, there is another important platform which he may have forgotten or conveniently left out and that is aggregating programmes from the licensed broadcasters in order to distribute them through a common distribution network (we do not need to concern ourselves with the various types of distribution technologies available). in the nutshell therefore non of the broadcasters even under the definition of a signal distributor in the analog sense fits this category. May I also take the liberty to state that under the broadcasting value chain in digital broadcasting as envisaged in Kenya, the signal distribution licensee builts the multiplex platform that is important to aggregate broadcasting signals, provide and manage billing information, facilitate subscriber mangement services as well as provide electronic program guide platform that can be self managed by the SD or sub let it to another entity depending on commercial arrangements. the SD further builts the transmission sites to distribute broadcasters content as well as built or lease distribution networks from licensed telecos for this purpose for distributing broadcasters content to the various designated broadcasting sites. this should therefore clearly discount Eng.'s allegation that broadcasters who have transmitting sites across the country are therefore defactor SDs. none of the investments thay have except land can be usable in the current signal distribution arrangement. even in the case of land, not all sites they are broadcasting from are designated digital broadcasting sites as per the CCK plan which is also registered with International Telecommunications Union (ITU). the masts they have if subjected to the new digital antenna weights they are expected to carry cannot pass the the desired tests. therefore anybody who secures a signal distribution licence may have to make completely new arrangements to meet the the requirements of the SD market either through co-location building completely new infrastructure. what I wish to say is that even if any of the companies, including Eng.'s company were to win the licence, they will have very little advantage from the current resources they have. As Eng. said, the local companies that submitted their bids may have missed the whole concept of the SD licensee or simply were complacent over the fact the since they are local, then everything to them is automatic. in any case if the regulator announced the two licences and three local firms or even more were competing for the same, there was no transparent criteria of choosing the winner, then what could the rest of the local losers have said and what could have been the reactions of the rest of Kenyans? ________________________________ From: kictanet-bounces+wangusi=cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke on behalf of Eng. Wainaina Mungai Sent: Fri 7/22/2011 7:22 PM To: Wangusi, Francis Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row-@Kenya IGF WHY THE DIGITAL TELEVISION SWITCHOVER IS IMPORTANT FOR KENYANS What is the Digital TV Switchover? The digital television switchover simply means that the technology that enables you to view programs on your television set will change from analogue to digital. What is the difference between analogue television and digital television? In a nutshell, for every channel available on analogue television, digital television enables the viewer to get up to 20 times more channels. For the television industry, the core difference is in who does the distribution of content. In analogue, each TV broadcaster (e.g. Nation, Citizen, KTN, and Family TV) produced content and then builds a network to distribute their own content. In digital, all the current TV companies (KTN, NTV, Citizen, K24, Kiss) will become content producers and only a few will become signal distributors. Why should Kenya switch from analogue to digital? This is a global change that has been agreed by all countries that are members of the International Telecommunications Union. The global deadline for switch over is December 2015. What was the CCK tender about? To facilitate the digital switchover, the Communications Commission of Kenya decided to split the television broadcast market into two segments: signal distributors and content providers. With analogue technology, a TV broadcaster got 1 license that allowed them to both provide their own content and distribute it to viewers using analogue signal networks. With digital technology, there will be 2 new separate licenses - one for signal distribution and another for content distribution. Incumbent broadcasters are then required to apply afresh to CCK for the licenses that they want to continue with. Signal distributors are companies that build, own and manage television signal networks. The transmission networks comprise frequencies, satellite capacity, masts, towers, transmitters, antennae and other technology that make it possible to send television programs from the television studios over the airwaves to television sets to households across the country. How do Kenyan TV broadcasters come in? Many of the Kenyan TV broadcasters are actually already signal distributors. Nation Media Group and Royal Media Services - actually are already signal distributors, except that the technology they use is analogue. They own signal distribution networks that they have built for over 10 years and invested billions of shillings in. Given the new sector laws and regulations, they are compelled to apply afresh to the Communications Commission of Kenya to become digital signal distributors. If CCK locks them out of the sector, they stand to lose billions of shillings. Content providers are companies that develop, produce, buy and acquire television content. All television companies in Kenya today including KTN, K24, Family Media and Kiss FM are content providers. They will all have to surrender their frequencies to the CCK who will re-issue them to the signal distributors. They will then focus on providing content. Those that want to distribute signals are required to apply afresh for a signal distributor license. The signal distributors will therefore carry all the programs that the content providers submit to viewers on their television sets. What is important to note is that to enable efficient use, there will be only a few signal distributors. Content providers on the other hand can be as many as capacity allows. CURRENT SITUATION CCK decided to license a government corporation - the Kenya Broadcasting Corporation to become a digital signal distributor. In March 2011, the CCK advertised tenders for award of 2 licenses to operate a Broadcast Signal Distribution Network in Kenya purportedly to enable the media in Kenya to participate in the nationally critical area of signal distribution. Nation Media Group and Royal Media Services - the two largest broadcasters in Kenya formed a consortium - National Signal Networks - which bid for one of the licenses. In total six companies were pre-qualified. Kenyan broadcasters were represented by 2 consortia - National Signal Networks representing Nation Media Group Limited and Signal Distributors Limited representing Radio Africa, Standard Media Group, and Mediamax among others. Because Kenyan broadcasters were extremely concerned that the broadcasting industry in Kenya should be allocated at least 1 license, Signal Distributors Limited withdrew its bid and supported the National Signal Networks bid. By the submission deadline, only 4 companies submitted their tender. 3 were Kenyan and 1 was Chinese. The Communications Commission of Kenya then decided to disqualify all the Kenyan bidders on technicalities and awarded only 1 license instead of the advertised 2. The license was issued to a Chinese company Pan African Network Group Ltd, which is owned by Star Times Network of China. WHAT IS THE IMPACT ON THE MEDIA AND BROADCASTING INDUSTRY? There are 2 core impact areas: Media Freedom and losses of investments made. MEDIA FREEDOM: Under analogue, each broadcaster had full control of their own signals. This enables international levels of media freedom. The government could only control the media by brutal and coercive force. Under digital, control of signals will be surrendered to a few companies. Media owners will not be able to directly prevent censorship and muzzling. The government can muzzle, censor and control all broadcasters by simply intimidating the 1 or 2 signal distributors that it has licensed. To illustrate this, during the 2007 election crisis, with analogue television the government could only control the media at gun point. And it would have had to do this in up to 20 media houses. Under digital television, it only needs to threaten the 2 signal distributors. The reason the CCK decision is dangerous for media freedom and the functioning of a modern democracy is that the CCK has chosen to hand over control of the airwaves to a government parastatal (KBC) and a company from communist China. Kenyan media organizations will have absolutely no ability to ensure that news reaches the masses - however positive or negative of the government it might be and however critical the national issues might be. This will have the effect of making the media in Kenya impotent. LOSSES OF INVESTMENT Nation media Group and Royal Media Services have already investments over a billion dollars in signal distribution. Hundreds of Kenyans work hard every day to manage these complex and huge networks from Mombasa to Busia and Lodwar to Namanga. By locking out Kenyan broadcasters from this sector, CCK will cause massive losses to Kenyan broadcasters some of whom are publicly quoted companies with hundreds of thousands of shareholders. The Kenyans who manage these networks will be forced into unemployment in these tough economic times. On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: @Wangusi, thanx for the detailed insight. I think media houses need to be more committed to a balanced reporting in future. Whatever happened to their mantra " there are two sides to every story" walu. --- On Fri, 7/22/11, Wangusi, Francis <Wangusi@cck.go.ke> wrote: From: Wangusi, Francis <Wangusi@cck.go.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row-@Kenya IGF To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, July 22, 2011, 3:48 PM A signal distribution market involves building of multiplexing platforms and signal transmission infrastructure for the purpose of distributing multimedia signals (video, audio and data). in terms of digital migration, SD provider is a key player in the digital migration process. under a unified licensing framework at the CCK, this is an infrastructure market segment capable of providing services beyound broadcasting. it is important to remember that broadcasting subsector holds a host of other market segments rather than what we usually know as free to air or if you may wish call it "free through advertisement" (FTA). this particular market segment is just a diminishing market in the wake of new media platforms thanks to the rapid evolvement of ICT technologies. there are many emerging technologies arising from this market supporting tripple play that are are blurring the boundary between broadcasting and telecommunications and this may explain why players in the SD market should understand the dynamics surrounding the provision of services under this market segment. suffice to say, there are only about 3.5M TV sets in the country from the last censors report against an investment of close to Ksh.4Billion for each signal distribution network for the SD licences that are to be given in this market segment. Currently, SIGNET is the only licensed public signal distributor which the Government is funding inorder to roll-out throughout the country and to fulfill its public service obligations. the Licences that were advertised were for commercial SD and therefore are only necessary to give Kenyans alternatives and to spur the spin-offs of digital migration and was done inline with public procurement rules and regulations, the ICT sector policy, Information and Communications Act cap 411A and all players were accorded equal opportunity. there are enough safety nets in place ranging from competition to contructural obligations in the licence to offered in the unfortunate but rare circumstances should an investor who has poured a cool Ksh. 4Billion wishes to switch off his network simply because of an election. why therefore a hulabaloo about this transparent process? if you join a race and develop a muscle pull along the way, you cannot be carried on the stretcher to a finishing line and be declared a winner simply because the race is being held in your country. it is also important for us to call on our media houses to practice the principle of fair doctrine which demands that when reporting adversely against an entity then that entity is given an equal measure to respond inorder to enable listners/readers make fairand informed judgement about the story. ________________________________ From: kictanet-bounces+wangusi=cck.go.ke <http://cck.go.ke/> @lists.kictanet.or.ke <http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/> on behalf of Edith Adera Sent: Fri 7/22/2011 1:07 PM To: Wangusi, Francis Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row-@Kenya IGF Why such strong defense for the Chinese? Why not have a national policy that signal distribution should be done by locals only? I'm a greenhorn in the area of signal distribution - can someone with expertise and experience in this area tell us the pros and cons? We need more insights. Edith From: kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke <http://idrc.or.ke/> @lists.kictanet.or.ke <http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Beadera> =idrc.or.ke <http://idrc.or.ke/> @lists.kictanet.or.ke <http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/> ] On Behalf Of Walubengo J Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 12:44 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row-@Kenya IGF Just got two interesting alternative views on the above at the ongoing Kenya IGF. 1. the Chair of the Parliamentary Group, Eng. Rege feels that giving out the National Digital Signal Distribution network to a foreigner exposes the nation to potential sabotage. What would happen if the Chinese decided to switch of the distribution when "the 2012 votes are being counted?" 2. the PS, Dr. Ndemo feels that that may really not arise for two reasons,(1) that there will be competition in that market, we shall have multiple national signal distributors and (2) Most of this signal distribution platforms will be over the Internet Cloud and hence the idea of switching off the channel may not be that simple (though it did happen in Egypt ;-) the debate continues... walu. --- On Fri, 7/22/11, Wamuyu Gatheru <wamuyu@soko-id.co.ke <http://mc/compose?to=wamuyu@soko-id.co.ke> > wrote: From: Wamuyu Gatheru <wamuyu@soko-id.co.ke <http://mc/compose?to=wamuyu@soko-id.co.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row To: jwalu@yahoo.com <http://mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <http://mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Date: Friday, July 22, 2011, 10:31 AM I think arguing only the merits of the bids in the context of telcoms (a strategic/security issue) will only provide half the answers. The country is in political transition and headed into another election where the jury on peace is still out. In the last few weeks, I have noticed political bias starting to appear in TV coverage depending on the political affiliations of the owners. The media may forget itself again in the heat of the election competition and I would not be suprised if someone in govt. wants the power to switch stations off - the Chinese can do this but local media houses would find this unacceptable. Hopefully, if media demonstrate maturity next year, govt. may cease to be concerned about who controls the signals. Its not a nice picture for media freedoms or harnessing local capacity for that matter. But there may hard realities the govt. may need to be ready to deal with. 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Allow me to add some comments on this thread. :-) Why is the ownership of the core signal distribution facilities of national importance ? I agree with Hon Eng Rege's assesment of potential sabotage and this alone is serious enough. Today we can openly discuss issues of such importance, who knows what will be the situation in another 20 years. All global governments have been known to back track or fast track. In 20 years time, we will have changed govt, policies to match back-tracking or fast-tracking at least 5 different times but two local companies will still be in existence i.e NMG/Royal Media and operating the national signal distribution without any effects whatsoever. We are also players in the global world and there is also the problem of global policies that affects us. If tomorrow China came under any sanctions internationally for whatever reason and that all developing nations have to follow the lead on showing how they support these sanctions, will the govt then shutdown the licensed facilities? Case of this is now Libya, which unfortunately developing countries are also being sucked into and told to choose sides between blocking assets and the rest . How would it work then? Anyone know what is happening to Laico Regency and Oil-Libya in Kenya, please share some details. The signal distribution network and facilities are as important as the signals of DOD. Will we also pass these signals and controls to external parties? I hope not. Nothing against China, as an investor it will be unfortunately get caught up with issues that arise from developing countries fast tracking shortcuts versus almost zero internal initiatives on core ownership development. In this case, I'd have to support the local media groups that can finance, operate and rollout ownership of facilities versus the argument that market competion will drive a diverse solutions. It seems that there aren't that many media stations which would be able to use more facilties even if they were available. My thoughts and corrections welcome. Thank you.
do not pretend, you are only safer knowing the asernal you opponent has than hiding what you have, please come out clear and if you are a prefessional, address the issue. Kenya is no longer a place for experimenaation. ________________________________ From: kictanet-bounces+wangusi=cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke on behalf of aki Sent: Sat 7/23/2011 10:55 AM To: Wangusi, Francis Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row-@Kenya IGF Allow me to add some comments on this thread. :-) Why is the ownership of the core signal distribution facilities of national importance ? I agree with Hon Eng Rege's assesment of potential sabotage and this alone is serious enough. Today we can openly discuss issues of such importance, who knows what will be the situation in another 20 years. All global governments have been known to back track or fast track. In 20 years time, we will have changed govt, policies to match back-tracking or fast-tracking at least 5 different times but two local companies will still be in existence i.e NMG/Royal Media and operating the national signal distribution without any effects whatsoever. We are also players in the global world and there is also the problem of global policies that affects us. If tomorrow China came under any sanctions internationally for whatever reason and that all developing nations have to follow the lead on showing how they support these sanctions, will the govt then shutdown the licensed facilities? Case of this is now Libya, which unfortunately developing countries are also being sucked into and told to choose sides between blocking assets and the rest . How would it work then? Anyone know what is happening to Laico Regency and Oil-Libya in Kenya, please share some details. The signal distribution network and facilities are as important as the signals of DOD. Will we also pass these signals and controls to external parties? I hope not. Nothing against China, as an investor it will be unfortunately get caught up with issues that arise from developing countries fast tracking shortcuts versus almost zero internal initiatives on core ownership development. In this case, I'd have to support the local media groups that can finance, operate and rollout ownership of facilities versus the argument that market competion will drive a diverse solutions. It seems that there aren't that many media stations which would be able to use more facilties even if they were available. My thoughts and corrections welcome. Thank you.
Not sure what you mean by pretence, however please re-read my comments and consider the aspects of continuity of core systems, whether 5-10 or even 15 years from now. I've provided my input in agreement with what Hon Eng Rege raised on the potential of problems. Thank you. On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Wangusi, Francis <Wangusi@cck.go.ke> wrote:
do not pretend, you are only safer knowing the asernal you opponent has than hiding what you have, please come out clear and if you are a prefessional, address the issue. Kenya is no longer a place for experimenaation.
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While I don't hold brief for Francis, I find Eng Rege's view populist if not alarmist and unrealistic - to the extent of trivializing such an important debate. Sovereignity is of course non-negotiable but for someone to say you will deny a foreign company such a license on the flimsy basis of potential of switching off signal during election announcement etc is to insult the worth of investment as well as the integrity and purpose of a public procurement process. My view going forward is that is important to re-tender the license issiance but not with a view to; (a) locking out foreign bidders and favour local ones but to address any integrity questions - real or perceived (b) redefine the ToRs to address some of the emerging speculative concerns. Contexts of what happened in Uganda and Rwanda could be totally different Bottom line, we must stop sideshows - political and otherwise and allow the rule of law - and more importantly public interest, and not trumped up emotions, to prevail in this matter Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: aki <aki275@gmail.com> Sender: kictanet-bounces+stephen=cofek.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.keDate: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 14:26:33 To: <stephen@cofek.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row-@Kenya IGF _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/stephen%40cofek.co.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Listers, Please step out of the box and understand this issue. There are about 30 companies with license to distribute Internet Protocol (IP) signinal. Of these just a handful are controlled by Kenyans. The licenses issued to Signet and PANG (Chinese)to distribute Broadcasting signal is actually the same given to other IP signal distributors. In essence any telco would have easily distributed the signal. This is because broadcast and telecommunications have converged. One would ask why we did not just give the existing IP signal distributors to roll out digital broadcast. Indeed we considered this and we knew broadcasters would resist the power that telcos would wield (read Banks). We then decided to create a special Broadcast IP signal license knowing very well that the development of Web TV is advancing fast. Indeed the technologies like DVBT, ISDBT etc would be eliminated once web tv takes over in another 5 years. This would mean that even CCK will not issue such IP licenses but only content license. We are simply in a development stage and check my words. There is no Broadcast Signal licensee (if their intention is to only distribute broadcast signal) who will recover the Ksh. 4 billion investment before the broadcast technology shifts to web broadcasting. We are already into Youtube and the like. Sometines follow ITU discussions, it is just a matter of time before all of us become broadcasters from our websites. All research is now focused on moving from Standard Definition to High Defition to 3D on the web. Just check TV manufacturers to understand the direction we are going. Already there is Internet TV with 1,500 free to air channels from Samsung. The smart TV which incorpotates today and tomorrow video requirements. We have been boxed into a small corner with lies. Indeed I have called my counterparts in Rwanda and Uganda and there is nothing with cancellation of licenses as reported. You can call and check. Prior to advertizing the tender, the Migration Committee had offered shares in Signet or better the license to all broadcasters owing to their investments in the sector that will go to waste. Instead they started fighting among themselves and agreed to a competitive bid but they did not report this. Under affirmative action, we shall proceed to issue the third license to the compainants on condition they incorporate others who already have infrastructure but only time will tell. (Mtoto akililia wembe, mpatie). It is not a wise decision for them if their intent is to protect our sovreinity through local entrepreneurship. The war in future will be in content and so Intellectual Property is where we must focus our energies. The last time I checked Ngurario in the net, it was a product of Intel and Microsoft. I do not know what is more important, our heritage or channels to which we distribute our creations. We shall benefit from this interaction if we think mostly out of the box and understand what is important to our future. The Government is devolving power to the citizens as evidenced with the launch of open government. But if the citizens continue with the old politically correct statements that have no evidence then we have a problem. These are some of the people who will be told of a revolution that happened during their time but were not able to see it because they were blinded with the past. Regards Ndemo.
Allow me to add some comments on this thread. :-)
Why is the ownership of the core signal distribution facilities of national importance ? I agree with Hon Eng Rege's assesment of potential sabotage and this alone is serious enough. Today we can openly discuss issues of such importance, who knows what will be the situation in another 20 years. All global governments have been known to back track or fast track. In 20 years time, we will have changed govt, policies to match back-tracking or fast-tracking at least 5 different times but two local companies will still be in existence i.e NMG/Royal Media and operating the national signal distribution without any effects whatsoever. We are also players in the global world and there is also the problem of global policies that affects us. If tomorrow China came under any sanctions internationally for whatever reason and that all developing nations have to follow the lead on showing how they support these sanctions, will the govt then shutdown the licensed facilities? Case of this is now Libya, which unfortunately developing countries are also being sucked into and told to choose sides between blocking assets and the rest . How would it work then? Anyone know what is happening to Laico Regency and Oil-Libya in Kenya, please share some details.
The signal distribution network and facilities are as important as the signals of DOD. Will we also pass these signals and controls to external parties? I hope not. Nothing against China, as an investor it will be unfortunately get caught up with issues that arise from developing countries fast tracking shortcuts versus almost zero internal initiatives on core ownership development. In this case, I'd have to support the local media groups that can finance, operate and rollout ownership of facilities versus the argument that market competion will drive a diverse solutions. It seems that there aren't that many media stations which would be able to use more facilties even if they were available.
My thoughts and corrections welcome.
Thank you.
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dear listers i have read most of the postings and it worries me if the media power houses can control the interpretation of important issues to the public like this, i may not be familiar with the whole licensing process in the government but all i know is that dispite the number of applicants there is only one firm that can be awarded in such a situation. if such an issue has been controlled by the media for there own benefit. then how much information has the media houses twisted and controlled for there own benefit in the past? thank you all --- On Sun, 7/24/11, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: From: bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row-@Kenya IGF To: memakunat@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Sunday, July 24, 2011, 9:49 AM Listers, Please step out of the box and understand this issue. There are about 30 companies with license to distribute Internet Protocol (IP) signinal. Of these just a handful are controlled by Kenyans. The licenses issued to Signet and PANG (Chinese)to distribute Broadcasting signal is actually the same given to other IP signal distributors. In essence any telco would have easily distributed the signal. This is because broadcast and telecommunications have converged. One would ask why we did not just give the existing IP signal distributors to roll out digital broadcast. Indeed we considered this and we knew broadcasters would resist the power that telcos would wield (read Banks). We then decided to create a special Broadcast IP signal license knowing very well that the development of Web TV is advancing fast. Indeed the technologies like DVBT, ISDBT etc would be eliminated once web tv takes over in another 5 years. This would mean that even CCK will not issue such IP licenses but only content license. We are simply in a development stage and check my words. There is no Broadcast Signal licensee (if their intention is to only distribute broadcast signal) who will recover the Ksh. 4 billion investment before the broadcast technology shifts to web broadcasting. We are already into Youtube and the like. Sometines follow ITU discussions, it is just a matter of time before all of us become broadcasters from our websites. All research is now focused on moving from Standard Definition to High Defition to 3D on the web. Just check TV manufacturers to understand the direction we are going. Already there is Internet TV with 1,500 free to air channels from Samsung. The smart TV which incorpotates today and tomorrow video requirements. We have been boxed into a small corner with lies. Indeed I have called my counterparts in Rwanda and Uganda and there is nothing with cancellation of licenses as reported. You can call and check. Prior to advertizing the tender, the Migration Committee had offered shares in Signet or better the license to all broadcasters owing to their investments in the sector that will go to waste. Instead they started fighting among themselves and agreed to a competitive bid but they did not report this. Under affirmative action, we shall proceed to issue the third license to the compainants on condition they incorporate others who already have infrastructure but only time will tell. (Mtoto akililia wembe, mpatie). It is not a wise decision for them if their intent is to protect our sovreinity through local entrepreneurship. The war in future will be in content and so Intellectual Property is where we must focus our energies. The last time I checked Ngurario in the net, it was a product of Intel and Microsoft. I do not know what is more important, our heritage or channels to which we distribute our creations. We shall benefit from this interaction if we think mostly out of the box and understand what is important to our future. The Government is devolving power to the citizens as evidenced with the launch of open government. But if the citizens continue with the old politically correct statements that have no evidence then we have a problem. These are some of the people who will be told of a revolution that happened during their time but were not able to see it because they were blinded with the past. Regards Ndemo.
Allow me to add some comments on this thread. :-)
Why is the ownership of the core signal distribution facilities of national importance ? I agree with Hon Eng Rege's assesment of potential sabotage and this alone is serious enough. Today we can openly discuss issues of such importance, who knows what will be the situation in another 20 years. All global governments have been known to back track or fast track. In 20 years time, we will have changed govt, policies to match back-tracking or fast-tracking at least 5 different times but two local companies will still be in existence i.e NMG/Royal Media and operating the national signal distribution without any effects whatsoever. We are also players in the global world and there is also the problem of global policies that affects us. If tomorrow China came under any sanctions internationally for whatever reason and that all developing nations have to follow the lead on showing how they support these sanctions, will the govt then shutdown the licensed facilities? Case of this is now Libya, which unfortunately developing countries are also being sucked into and told to choose sides between blocking assets and the rest . How would it work then? Anyone know what is happening to Laico Regency and Oil-Libya in Kenya, please share some details.
The signal distribution network and facilities are as important as the signals of DOD. Will we also pass these signals and controls to external parties? I hope not. Nothing against China, as an investor it will be unfortunately get caught up with issues that arise from developing countries fast tracking shortcuts versus almost zero internal initiatives on core ownership development. In this case, I'd have to support the local media groups that can finance, operate and rollout ownership of facilities versus the argument that market competion will drive a diverse solutions. It seems that there aren't that many media stations which would be able to use more facilties even if they were available.
My thoughts and corrections welcome.
Thank you.
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Meshack, The saddest thing is that Media the other day were on a Swedish company case. They mounted unnecessary war on Smart TV that had employed 100 Kenyans. Their sin was competition. Even after the High Court found that there was no irregularity, they kept fighting. The Company is now exiting the Kenyan Market. Imagine the message we send out their with respect to FDI in the sector. Three Multinationals that have been considring setting up local content development are reconsidering their decision. These were the same groups that were to set up animation studios at Sameer Park. This ia all about resistance to change. The people must resist this kind of propaganda. In my view we need a public debate on this. I am ready to say this in public not just in the New Media. Regards Ndemo.
dear listers
i have read most of the postings and it worries me if the media power houses can control the interpretation of important issues to the public like this, i may not be familiar with the whole licensing process in the government but all i know is that dispite the number of applicants there is only one firm that can be awarded in such a situation. if such an issue has been controlled by the media for there own benefit. then how much information has the media houses twisted and controlled for there own benefit in the past?
thank you all
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From: bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row-@Kenya IGF To: memakunat@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Sunday, July 24, 2011, 9:49 AM
Listers, Please step out of the box and understand this issue. There are about 30 companies with license to distribute Internet Protocol (IP) signinal. Of these just a handful are controlled by Kenyans. The licenses issued to Signet and PANG (Chinese)to distribute Broadcasting signal is actually the same given to other IP signal distributors. In essence any telco would have easily distributed the signal. This is because broadcast and telecommunications have converged.
One would ask why we did not just give the existing IP signal distributors to roll out digital broadcast. Indeed we considered this and we knew broadcasters would resist the power that telcos would wield (read Banks). We then decided to create a special Broadcast IP signal license knowing very well that the development of Web TV is advancing fast. Indeed the technologies like DVBT, ISDBT etc would be eliminated once web tv takes over in another 5 years. This would mean that even CCK will not issue such IP licenses but only content license.
We are simply in a development stage and check my words. There is no Broadcast Signal licensee (if their intention is to only distribute broadcast signal) who will recover the Ksh. 4 billion investment before the broadcast technology shifts to web broadcasting. We are already into Youtube and the like. Sometines follow ITU discussions, it is just a matter of time before all of us become broadcasters from our websites. All research is now focused on moving from Standard Definition to High Defition to 3D on the web. Just check TV manufacturers to understand the direction we are going. Already there is Internet TV with 1,500 free to air channels from Samsung. The smart TV which incorpotates today and tomorrow video requirements.
We have been boxed into a small corner with lies. Indeed I have called my counterparts in Rwanda and Uganda and there is nothing with cancellation of licenses as reported. You can call and check. Prior to advertizing the tender, the Migration Committee had offered shares in Signet or better the license to all broadcasters owing to their investments in the sector that will go to waste. Instead they started fighting among themselves and agreed to a competitive bid but they did not report this.
Under affirmative action, we shall proceed to issue the third license to the compainants on condition they incorporate others who already have infrastructure but only time will tell. (Mtoto akililia wembe, mpatie). It is not a wise decision for them if their intent is to protect our sovreinity through local entrepreneurship. The war in future will be in content and so Intellectual Property is where we must focus our energies. The last time I checked Ngurario in the net, it was a product of Intel and Microsoft. I do not know what is more important, our heritage or channels to which we distribute our creations.
We shall benefit from this interaction if we think mostly out of the box and understand what is important to our future. The Government is devolving power to the citizens as evidenced with the launch of open government. But if the citizens continue with the old politically correct statements that have no evidence then we have a problem. These are some of the people who will be told of a revolution that happened during their time but were not able to see it because they were blinded with the past.
Regards
Ndemo.
Allow me to add some comments on this thread. :-)
Why is the ownership of the core signal distribution facilities of national importance ? I agree with Hon Eng Rege's assesment of potential sabotage and this alone is serious enough. Today we can openly discuss issues of such importance, who knows what will be the situation in another 20 years. All global governments have been known to back track or fast track. In 20 years time, we will have changed govt, policies to match back-tracking or fast-tracking at least 5 different times but two local companies will still be in existence i.e NMG/Royal Media and operating the national signal distribution without any effects whatsoever. We are also players in the global world and there is also the problem of global policies that affects us. If tomorrow China came under any sanctions internationally for whatever reason and that all developing nations have to follow the lead on showing how they support these sanctions, will the govt then shutdown the licensed facilities? Case of this is now Libya, which unfortunately developing countries are also being sucked into and told to choose sides between blocking assets and the rest . How would it work then? Anyone know what is happening to Laico Regency and Oil-Libya in Kenya, please share some details.
The signal distribution network and facilities are as important as the signals of DOD. Will we also pass these signals and controls to external parties? I hope not. Nothing against China, as an investor it will be unfortunately get caught up with issues that arise from developing countries fast tracking shortcuts versus almost zero internal initiatives on core ownership development. In this case, I'd have to support the local media groups that can finance, operate and rollout ownership of facilities versus the argument that market competion will drive a diverse solutions. It seems that there aren't that many media stations which would be able to use more facilties even if they were available.
My thoughts and corrections welcome.
Thank you.
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Daktari, I rarely agree with the governments stand on certain issues but on this one I say move forward with all guns blazing, I need an opportunity to broadcast my ideas but this will never happen with a few profit centred organisations owning the airwaves. After we have created out youtube http://www.youtube.com/robertyawe (this is a chance for many of you to put a face to the text) type content the next step will be how to broadcast the same to a larger audience. As with youtube, where I did not need to invest in the distribution network, the independence of the digital signal distributor will allow me to only invest in the content part of the business thus reducing my capital expenditure. However much we bury our heads in the sand, kill switches are a must have if you are to prevent mass murder as happened in Rwanda, Sierra Leone, Serbia, Germany and many others. Yesterday I realised that my searches on Google are being localised which means all traffic to and from a particular country will soon be easily identifiable which will therefore allow for remote disconnection. So before you start throwing stones at the Chinese, because of our inability to think even within the box, watch the global space and realise that big brother is increasing the reigns of control to the level of each individual world citizen. I ask again, if the phone of a Prime Minister can be hacked what about yours and mine, lets get the digital signal and broadcast cultural shows to those who want to watch. It is my expectation that by the end of 2012 I will have 100 channels to choose from ranging in content from recipes for roasting grasshoppers to brain surgery for dummies all from a single antennae irrespective of where I am in the country. Twende Kazi Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Sun, 24 July, 2011 19:49:29 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row-@Kenya IGF Listers, Please step out of the box and understand this issue. There are about 30 companies with license to distribute Internet Protocol (IP) signinal. Of these just a handful are controlled by Kenyans. The licenses issued to Signet and PANG (Chinese)to distribute Broadcasting signal is actually the same given to other IP signal distributors. In essence any telco would have easily distributed the signal. This is because broadcast and telecommunications have converged. One would ask why we did not just give the existing IP signal distributors to roll out digital broadcast. Indeed we considered this and we knew broadcasters would resist the power that telcos would wield (read Banks). We then decided to create a special Broadcast IP signal license knowing very well that the development of Web TV is advancing fast. Indeed the technologies like DVBT, ISDBT etc would be eliminated once web tv takes over in another 5 years. This would mean that even CCK will not issue such IP licenses but only content license. We are simply in a development stage and check my words. There is no Broadcast Signal licensee (if their intention is to only distribute broadcast signal) who will recover the Ksh. 4 billion investment before the broadcast technology shifts to web broadcasting. We are already into Youtube and the like. Sometines follow ITU discussions, it is just a matter of time before all of us become broadcasters from our websites. All research is now focused on moving from Standard Definition to High Defition to 3D on the web. Just check TV manufacturers to understand the direction we are going. Already there is Internet TV with 1,500 free to air channels from Samsung. The smart TV which incorpotates today and tomorrow video requirements. We have been boxed into a small corner with lies. Indeed I have called my counterparts in Rwanda and Uganda and there is nothing with cancellation of licenses as reported. You can call and check. Prior to advertizing the tender, the Migration Committee had offered shares in Signet or better the license to all broadcasters owing to their investments in the sector that will go to waste. Instead they started fighting among themselves and agreed to a competitive bid but they did not report this. Under affirmative action, we shall proceed to issue the third license to the compainants on condition they incorporate others who already have infrastructure but only time will tell. (Mtoto akililia wembe, mpatie). It is not a wise decision for them if their intent is to protect our sovreinity through local entrepreneurship. The war in future will be in content and so Intellectual Property is where we must focus our energies. The last time I checked Ngurario in the net, it was a product of Intel and Microsoft. I do not know what is more important, our heritage or channels to which we distribute our creations. We shall benefit from this interaction if we think mostly out of the box and understand what is important to our future. The Government is devolving power to the citizens as evidenced with the launch of open government. But if the citizens continue with the old politically correct statements that have no evidence then we have a problem. These are some of the people who will be told of a revolution that happened during their time but were not able to see it because they were blinded with the past. Regards Ndemo.
Allow me to add some comments on this thread. :-)
Why is the ownership of the core signal distribution facilities of national importance ? I agree with Hon Eng Rege's assesment of potential sabotage and this alone is serious enough. Today we can openly discuss issues of such importance, who knows what will be the situation in another 20 years. All global governments have been known to back track or fast track. In 20 years time, we will have changed govt, policies to match back-tracking or fast-tracking at least 5 different times but two local companies will still be in existence i.e NMG/Royal Media and operating the national signal distribution without any effects whatsoever. We are also players in the global world and there is also the problem of global policies that affects us. If tomorrow China came under any sanctions internationally for whatever reason and that all developing nations have to follow the lead on showing how they support these sanctions, will the govt then shutdown the licensed facilities? Case of this is now Libya, which unfortunately developing countries are also being sucked into and told to choose sides between blocking assets and the rest . How would it work then? Anyone know what is happening to Laico Regency and Oil-Libya in Kenya, please share some details.
The signal distribution network and facilities are as important as the signals of DOD. Will we also pass these signals and controls to external parties? I hope not. Nothing against China, as an investor it will be unfortunately get caught up with issues that arise from developing countries fast tracking shortcuts versus almost zero internal initiatives on core ownership development. In this case, I'd have to support the local media groups that can finance, operate and rollout ownership of facilities versus the argument that market competion will drive a diverse solutions. It seems that there aren't that many media stations which would be able to use more facilties even if they were available.
My thoughts and corrections welcome.
Thank you.
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Listers A different view of the story. http://www.eastafricapress.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=612:a-different-coverage&catid=69&Itemid=138 A Chinese invasion? It was not only Okiya Omtata who went bananas last week. On Tuesday, it was reported that a Chinese firm had been illegally awarded a tender to distribute TV content in Kenya as the country migrates from analogue to digital broadcasting. NTV and Citizen TV threw a major tantrum. The two stations had formed a consortium and applied for the job. They felt they had been treated unfairly by the Communications Commission of Kenya, which awarded the Chinese firm. On Tuesday, the NTV went hysterical in its first news item. Kenya’s freedom of press was on auction because China, which does not respect press freedom, had been awarded the right to control content of Kenyan media. A gloomy Wallace Kantai was almost hyperventilating instead of objectively reporting story. The incoherent story was clearly forced from the Nation Group’s top dogs to be the first news item lest anyone misses it. Come Wednesday, Nation published an angry front-page story on the issue. It was a tirade, really. Not only did Nation raise questions about how the contract was awarded but also went hammer and tongs at the Chinese. It announced a Chinese invasion of Kenya: “The company has got the licence to distribute digital broadcast signals, giving it control of key strategic infrastructure and role in Kenya’s transition to digital broadcasting. “China does not have a free press and is notorious for censoring the media, including over the Internet and restricting civil liberties.” What was the story about, again? A government contract or China’s human rights record? Who had been given the licence: the government of China or a company from China? How come we do plenty of other businesses with China? Radio China broadcasts in Kiswahili in Kenya. Our newspapers use articles published by Xinhua, the official Chinese news agency. Have we not read or watched stories on Kenyan media about the mighty Asian giant? Do we not consume their products with gusto? “The profile of Chinese companies in Kenya has been on the rise, with Chinese contractors winning large contracts in road construction, building of new pipelines, airports, ports, telecommunications and energy sector jobs”, Nation wailed. We do know the details of how the tender ended up in the hands of the Chinese firm and there is every likelihood the government, or some well connected individuals, are privy to a sweetheart deal (a top Chinese government official was in the country not so long ago, and the President and Prime Minister have been wooing the Chinese). But does that constitute “control of key strategic infrastructure”? What is more strategic than the government giving away its oil refinery and pipeline to a foreign government? According to CCK, there will be three distributors of digital content. The same day, Citizen TV reported, but in a milder way, the loss of its joint bid with the Nation Group for the digital distribution licence. On Friday, Radio Citizen’s Waweru Mburu took up the war against the invading Chinese. His programme ‘Yaliyotendeka’ included a huge chunk of the Nation story, sometimes word for word. Waweru warned Kenyans of a Chinese attempt to colonize us. Their substandard products have swamped the local market. Their construction jobs are shoddy. Soon, expect the Chinese to own kiosks around Kenya… Hello, has anyone forced Kenyans to take the hands of the Chinese? To consume their services or goods? That was shamefully excessive; totally unprofessional. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you have the strength to survive, you have the power to succeed. Life is all about choices we make depending upon the situation we are in. Go forth and rule the World!
Am certain we have media represented on this list, pse respond and set the record straight. Especially, "Were you invited to take up ownership in Signet, then you declined?" I suppose we run the risk of upcoming news items being treated with a pinch of salt unless fully substantiated, to avoid whipping up emotions unnecessarily. Maybe as suggested, a townhall "forum" would be a welcome idea. Robert, pse send the recipe for roasting grasshoppers.. Harry _____ From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of robert yawe Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 10:12 AM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row-@Kenya IGF Daktari, I rarely agree with the governments stand on certain issues but on this one I say move forward with all guns blazing, I need an opportunity to broadcast my ideas but this will never happen with a few profit centred organisations owning the airwaves. After we have created out youtube http://www.youtube.com/robertyawe (this is a chance for many of you to put a face to the text) type content the next step will be how to broadcast the same to a larger audience. As with youtube, where I did not need to invest in the distribution network, the independence of the digital signal distributor will allow me to only invest in the content part of the business thus reducing my capital expenditure. However much we bury our heads in the sand, kill switches are a must have if you are to prevent mass murder as happened in Rwanda, Sierra Leone, Serbia, Germany and many others. Yesterday I realised that my searches on Google are being localised which means all traffic to and from a particular country will soon be easily identifiable which will therefore allow for remote disconnection. So before you start throwing stones at the Chinese, because of our inability to think even within the box, watch the global space and realise that big brother is increasing the reigns of control to the level of each individual world citizen. I ask again, if the phone of a Prime Minister can be hacked what about yours and mine, lets get the digital signal and broadcast cultural shows to those who want to watch. It is my expectation that by the end of 2012 I will have 100 channels to choose from ranging in content from recipes for roasting grasshoppers to brain surgery for dummies all from a single antennae irrespective of where I am in the country. Twende Kazi Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 _____ From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Sun, 24 July, 2011 19:49:29 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row-@Kenya IGF Listers, Please step out of the box and understand this issue. There are about 30 companies with license to distribute Internet Protocol (IP) signinal. Of these just a handful are controlled by Kenyans. The licenses issued to Signet and PANG (Chinese)to distribute Broadcasting signal is actually the same given to other IP signal distributors. In essence any telco would have easily distributed the signal. This is because broadcast and telecommunications have converged. One would ask why we did not just give the existing IP signal distributors to roll out digital broadcast. Indeed we considered this and we knew broadcasters would resist the power that telcos would wield (read Banks). We then decided to create a special Broadcast IP signal license knowing very well that the development of Web TV is advancing fast. Indeed the technologies like DVBT, ISDBT etc would be eliminated once web tv takes over in another 5 years. This would mean that even CCK will not issue such IP licenses but only content license. We are simply in a development stage and check my words. There is no Broadcast Signal licensee (if their intention is to only distribute broadcast signal) who will recover the Ksh. 4 billion investment before the broadcast technology shifts to web broadcasting. We are already into Youtube and the like. Sometines follow ITU discussions, it is just a matter of time before all of us become broadcasters from our websites. All research is now focused on moving from Standard Definition to High Defition to 3D on the web. Just check TV manufacturers to understand the direction we are going. Already there is Internet TV with 1,500 free to air channels from Samsung. The smart TV which incorpotates today and tomorrow video requirements. We have been boxed into a small corner with lies. Indeed I have called my counterparts in Rwanda and Uganda and there is nothing with cancellation of licenses as reported. You can call and check. Prior to advertizing the tender, the Migration Committee had offered shares in Signet or better the license to all broadcasters owing to their investments in the sector that will go to waste. Instead they started fighting among themselves and agreed to a competitive bid but they did not report this. Under affirmative action, we shall proceed to issue the third license to the compainants on condition they incorporate others who already have infrastructure but only time will tell. (Mtoto akililia wembe, mpatie). It is not a wise decision for them if their intent is to protect our sovreinity through local entrepreneurship. The war in future will be in content and so Intellectual Property is where we must focus our energies. The last time I checked Ngurario in the net, it was a product of Intel and Microsoft. I do not know what is more important, our heritage or channels to which we distribute our creations. We shall benefit from this interaction if we think mostly out of the box and understand what is important to our future. The Government is devolving power to the citizens as evidenced with the launch of open government. But if the citizens continue with the old politically correct statements that have no evidence then we have a problem. These are some of the people who will be told of a revolution that happened during their time but were not able to see it because they were blinded with the past. Regards Ndemo.
Allow me to add some comments on this thread. :-)
Why is the ownership of the core signal distribution facilities of national importance ? I agree with Hon Eng Rege's assesment of potential sabotage and this alone is serious enough. Today we can openly discuss issues of such importance, who knows what will be the situation in another 20 years. All global governments have been known to back track or fast track. In 20 years time, we will have changed govt, policies to match back-tracking or fast-tracking at least 5 different times but two local companies will still be in existence i.e NMG/Royal Media and operating the national signal distribution without any effects whatsoever. We are also players in the global world and there is also the problem of global policies that affects us. If tomorrow China came under any sanctions internationally for whatever reason and that all developing nations have to follow the lead on showing how they support these sanctions, will the govt then shutdown the licensed facilities? Case of this is now Libya, which unfortunately developing countries are also being sucked into and told to choose sides between blocking assets and the rest . How would it work then? Anyone know what is happening to Laico Regency and Oil-Libya in Kenya, please share some details.
The signal distribution network and facilities are as important as the signals of DOD. Will we also pass these signals and controls to external parties? I hope not. Nothing against China, as an investor it will be unfortunately get caught up with issues that arise from developing countries fast tracking shortcuts versus almost zero internal initiatives on core ownership development. In this case, I'd have to support the local media groups that can finance, operate and rollout ownership of facilities versus the argument that market competion will drive a diverse solutions. It seems that there aren't that many media stations which would be able to use more facilties even if they were available.
My thoughts and corrections welcome.
Thank you.
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This issue does bring back memories of the KCA amendment act and missing the point. I do like bloggers, here's Wanjiku's take. http://www.wanjiku.co.ke/2011/07/digital-signal-distribution-who-missed-the-... "Digital Signal Distribution; who missed the point? Posted on 26/07/2011 <http://www.wanjiku.co.ke/2011/07/digital-signal-distribution-who-missed-the-point/> by admin <http://www.wanjiku.co.ke/author/admin/> Last week, there was a huge debate over digital signal distribution contract given to a Chinese firm- Pan African Network Group. The main dispute came to the fore after Nation Media Group and Royal Media Services lost a procurement appeal. I remember the tender and the whole digital broadcasting debate, but when I saw S.K macharia and Linus Gitahi being interviewed, I knew the big guns were blazing. Terms like media freedom were being fronted around and how it could be interfered with during next year's elections. One conspicuous issue was that no one from government was interviewed to counter the accusations, so to the public, it seemed like the government had ignored local consortium in favor of a Chinese company, that did not have existing infrastructure. There is no contest that those are the two biggest media in Kenya and you have to agree, they had a point, at that time. Because there was no much info as to why the Communications Commission of Kenya awarded the contract, it always pays to wait and hear the other side; and the rejoinder from CCK came, and their first point was to raise an issue of how the media ignored the principle of fair doctrine- I think there is no contest about that, it was thrown out of the door :) From the rejoinder, it emerged that the investments made by the media houses do not count as much because they will have to build new infrastructure as per the CCK guidelines submitted to the International Telecommunications Union. The only usable investment is land, and even then, that land will have to be in the areas designated for digital broadcasting. Hmmmm..... so now, the extensive infrastructure card is out. And I didn't hear them say that they has shs. 4 billion ready for investment, maybe they will get a loan, just like the Chinese probably will. Besides, being Kenyan doesn't mean you are the best, what happened to competition. From the arguments, not many people could tell that the license was for commercial digital distribution, KBC has the government funded one, so if you don't like the commercial one, I think KBC gives another alternative. As it has now been explained, one of the reasons for the tender is to separate signal and content distribution. I think this is the point where the unified licensing regime will start making sense. All license holders will have to be licensed afresh under content or signal distribution. Right now, TV stations do both. I wonder if it would be better if the policy says if you are in signal distribution, then you have to buy content from content providers and can not do both, like it happens in South Africa. This is also going to be a sticky point because media houses will have to pay more to content providers if the 30 percent local content quota is enforced, which will mean better business to content providers. There is no doubt that the whole digital migration is going to have far more greater implications that we probably think. Investors will have to fine new things to do with their extensive infrastructure now that the content will be distributed through someone else's infrastructure. Maybe companies will sell off the masts, towers, etc or they will start selling internet capacity if its possible but innovation is needed fast...forget media freedom, think what you will do with the infrastructure once we switch from analogue to digital. The two sides argued their cases but I think the real debate will come out once CCK advertises for license application and gives guidelines. We will probably see court cases that will explain all about those broadcasting stakeholder forums that I see advertised in the papers and am not sure if the bigwigs in the media houses attend. Remember the debate about the ICT Act? The issue was also about media freedom and it turned out the clause in question was a decade old :) and the media did not have a clue, they thought it was in the amendment Act. So, the debate may have just began, let us now discuss what happens with the analogue spectrum that media owners will give back. Will it be fairly redistributed, auctioned or will be allocated like the current spectrum was? Will we see some set aside for rural Wi-fi projects? Maybe am jumping the gun and will soon start digressing :)" On 7/26/11 12:28 PM, Harry Delano wrote:
Am certain we have media represented on this list, pse respond and set the record straight. Especially, "Were you invited to take up ownership in Signet, then you declined?" I suppose we run the risk of upcoming news items being treated with a pinch of salt unless fully substantiated, to avoid whipping up emotions unnecessarily. Maybe as suggested, a townhall "forum" would be a welcome idea. Robert, pse send the recipe for roasting grasshoppers.. Harry ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *robert yawe *Sent:* Monday, July 25, 2011 10:12 AM *To:* harry@comtelsys.co.ke *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row-@Kenya IGF
Daktari,
I rarely agree with the governments stand on certain issues but on this one I say move forward with all guns blazing, I need an opportunity to broadcast my ideas but this will never happen with a few profit centred organisations owning the airwaves.
After we have created out youtube http://www.youtube.com/robertyawe (this is a chance for many of you to put a face to the text) type content the next step will be how to broadcast the same to a larger audience.
As with youtube, where I did not need to invest in the distribution network, the independence of the digital signal distributor will allow me to only invest in the content part of the business thus reducing my capital expenditure.
However much we bury our heads in the sand, kill switches are a must have if you are to prevent mass murder as happened in Rwanda, Sierra Leone, Serbia, Germany and many others. Yesterday I realised that my searches on Google are being localised which means all traffic to and from a particular country will soon be easily identifiable which will therefore allow for remote disconnection.
So before you start throwing stones at the Chinese, because of our inability to think even within the box, watch the global space and realise that big brother is increasing the reigns of control to the level of each individual world citizen.
I ask again, if the phone of a Prime Minister can be hacked what about yours and mine, lets get the digital signal and broadcast cultural shows to those who want to watch. It is my expectation that by the end of 2012 I will have 100 channels to choose from ranging in content from recipes for roasting grasshoppers to brain surgery for dummies all from a single antennae irrespective of where I am in the country.
Twende Kazi Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> *To:* robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Sun, 24 July, 2011 19:49:29 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Digital TV signal Distribution row-@Kenya IGF
Listers, Please step out of the box and understand this issue. There are about 30 companies with license to distribute Internet Protocol (IP) signinal. Of these just a handful are controlled by Kenyans. The licenses issued to Signet and PANG (Chinese)to distribute Broadcasting signal is actually the same given to other IP signal distributors. In essence any telco would have easily distributed the signal. This is because broadcast and telecommunications have converged.
One would ask why we did not just give the existing IP signal distributors to roll out digital broadcast. Indeed we considered this and we knew broadcasters would resist the power that telcos would wield (read Banks). We then decided to create a special Broadcast IP signal license knowing very well that the development of Web TV is advancing fast. Indeed the technologies like DVBT, ISDBT etc would be eliminated once web tv takes over in another 5 years. This would mean that even CCK will not issue such IP licenses but only content license.
We are simply in a development stage and check my words. There is no Broadcast Signal licensee (if their intention is to only distribute broadcast signal) who will recover the Ksh. 4 billion investment before the broadcast technology shifts to web broadcasting. We are already into Youtube and the like. Sometines follow ITU discussions, it is just a matter of time before all of us become broadcasters from our websites. All research is now focused on moving from Standard Definition to High Defition to 3D on the web. Just check TV manufacturers to understand the direction we are going. Already there is Internet TV with 1,500 free to air channels from Samsung. The smart TV which incorpotates today and tomorrow video requirements.
We have been boxed into a small corner with lies. Indeed I have called my counterparts in Rwanda and Uganda and there is nothing with cancellation of licenses as reported. You can call and check. Prior to advertizing the tender, the Migration Committee had offered shares in Signet or better the license to all broadcasters owing to their investments in the sector that will go to waste. Instead they started fighting among themselves and agreed to a competitive bid but they did not report this.
Under affirmative action, we shall proceed to issue the third license to the compainants on condition they incorporate others who already have infrastructure but only time will tell. (Mtoto akililia wembe, mpatie). It is not a wise decision for them if their intent is to protect our sovreinity through local entrepreneurship. The war in future will be in content and so Intellectual Property is where we must focus our energies. The last time I checked Ngurario in the net, it was a product of Intel and Microsoft. I do not know what is more important, our heritage or channels to which we distribute our creations.
We shall benefit from this interaction if we think mostly out of the box and understand what is important to our future. The Government is devolving power to the citizens as evidenced with the launch of open government. But if the citizens continue with the old politically correct statements that have no evidence then we have a problem. These are some of the people who will be told of a revolution that happened during their time but were not able to see it because they were blinded with the past.
Regards
Ndemo.
Allow me to add some comments on this thread. :-)
Why is the ownership of the core signal distribution facilities of national importance ? I agree with Hon Eng Rege's assesment of potential sabotage and this alone is serious enough. Today we can openly discuss issues of such importance, who knows what will be the situation in another 20 years. All global governments have been known to back track or fast track. In 20 years time, we will have changed govt, policies to match back-tracking or fast-tracking at least 5 different times but two local companies will still be in existence i.e NMG/Royal Media and operating the national signal distribution without any effects whatsoever. We are also players in the global world and there is also the problem of global policies that affects us. If tomorrow China came under any sanctions internationally for whatever reason and that all developing nations have to follow the lead on showing how they support these sanctions, will the govt then shutdown the licensed facilities? Case of this is now Libya, which unfortunately developing countries are also being sucked into and told to choose sides between blocking assets and the rest . How would it work then? Anyone know what is happening to Laico Regency and Oil-Libya in Kenya, please share some details.
The signal distribution network and facilities are as important as the signals of DOD. Will we also pass these signals and controls to external parties? I hope not. Nothing against China, as an investor it will be unfortunately get caught up with issues that arise from developing countries fast tracking shortcuts versus almost zero internal initiatives on core ownership development. In this case, I'd have to support the local media groups that can finance, operate and rollout ownership of facilities versus the argument that market competion will drive a diverse solutions. It seems that there aren't that many media stations which would be able to use more facilties even if they were available.
My thoughts and corrections welcome.
Thank you.
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I'd like to share some comments, am not a broadcaster, nor economist but as someone in technology.... :-) It is great to see that portions of govt is looking at the future, and the efforts are appreciated quite much. I think that IPTV exceeding DVBT in developing countries may not happen for a long time because am not sure how many or if any at all xDSL networks we are rolling out. Telkom/Orange would have been leaders in web content over adsl but we are not seeing that yet. IPTV will become a success in urban cities where the infrastructure can sustain such technologies but rural areas will be left out. There are emerging trends within DVBT towards interactive TV, internet access and return via wifi-3g-gsm-cable but these are so far not well established. DVBT a growing industry, and I believe IPTV success is over copper/fiber at around 24Mbits. However, I'm not sure why for example zukuTV have not started using the DVBT Signet platform or a hybrid to push paytv content and utilize the platform for future ip enabled applications. Cable infrastruture is an expensive network to support, maintain. I believe DVBT is just the beginning of what one single set-top box will bring to many houses in terms of services. For developing countries, I'd definately put DVBT as the future. On FDI, and this is why I believe that developing govts or those within govt are not the problem but the system is. Whether this govt or the next or the one after, they will still have to make the system work. When we start getting rated with FDI at 100% international ownership and this becomes the standard across developing countries, then we are definately loosing out as far as FDI goes and foreign investors may not see kenya as a viable choice if we don't accept the standard. FDI brings its large benefits too to the economy ( direct employment, newer technologies, competition and diversity ) but the problem is that we learnt what the cold war did with diverse interests, including creating civil wars that aimlessly left many developing countries in shambles and extremely poor too. We will need to try and find a balance for future generations between the system and our long term goals. We need to ensure that while we have not done the things we should have to be on par with many countries, we also look at addressing the potential growth in kenyans hands. However, and I can understand Bwana Ndemo's frustration on the FDI issue, the same can be said about an article that I read in the dailies when Safaricom share value was going downwards a few months ago, most of the those who invested at that time were international investors. Kenyans should have used the opportunity to own more but did not. This seems is a reflection of what polices and the system over many decades has done to the confidence of kenyans owning Kenya. Possibly an economist will be able to better share their view on how a balance between FDI and an internal growth can change minds. Thank you, corrections are very welcome. Rgds.
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