Crowd Sourced Citizen Report Cards + strategic inefficiency is what creates a large number jobs
This is what I think about the two issues. We need Citizen Report Cards. We need to find a way to do this by crowd sourcing not just the information, but the funding as well. At some point, Kenyans who are wealthy enough to offer patronage to citizen worthy causes and projects. This is the same for the seed funding required to develop local, indigenous ideas that have a potential to benefit all of us. The first obstacle we must get rid of is the “get rich quick” mentality in the “startup" fad. Sadly, we are mostly suspicious of one another in this country so few are willing to give money to a visibly worthy cause because the said startup entrepreneurs will probably line their pockets and not succeed in fulfilling the “social contract”. But if we went past these small issues, we can build web portals that visualise a lot of public data such as the KNBS census and household data. I did some work with Mzalendo Trust where a report was done on the Women representatives in the 11th Parliament. It was released as an infographic that really was a score card - http://info.mzalendo.com/media_root/file_archive/WP-Contributions_11th_Parli... <http://info.mzalendo.com/media_root/file_archive/WP-Contributions_11th_Parliament.pdf>. We did some research on what the baseline issues should be in the counties these women represent. We found the Kenya Socio-economic Atlas invaluable - https://www.kenya-atlas.org/ <https://www.kenya-atlas.org/>. We were able to see that Kenya should really be divided around its climatic predispositions and state funding should flow with these conditions in mind. I asked myself, why can’t the Kenya Atlas be made interactive and up-to-date? As it is, it is a fantastic source of data for socio-economic policy development. After talking to the program manager at CETRAD and remembering some conversations with a commissioner at the Commission on Revenue Allocation, I think that this is a worthwhile thing to pursue. This then informs and frames the issue of strategic inefficiency. Just by looking at the Kenya Atlas, one could quickly understand why sugar cane growing in Kenya will never be sustainable compared to the COMESA region. The inefficiencies in the sugar sector do keep a lot of farmers busy but these jobs are not sustainable. We have a lot of the information and most of the tools that we can use to make Kenya strategically efficient in this region for our benefit. If sugar from Sudan and maize from Malawi are cheaper to buy than to grow and the fact that we have a larger source of educated human resource and are leading in financial services means we have things we can trade in with our neighbours, to our benefit. The cheap and unnecessary political animosity we seem to encourage with our COMESA exemptions would be dissipated. These types of information can be disseminated as Citizen Report Cards with the added benefit of civic education that would result from discussions around the reports. After the Women Representatives report card, Parliamentarians began using the Mzalendo score cards in their re-election material. Best Regards, Jimmy Gitonga Web Software Design and Development LinkedIn: Jimmy Gitonga | Twitter: @Afrowave ______________________________________ Web: afroshok.com <http://afroshok.com/>
Indeed, Crowd Sourced Citizen Report Cards could lead to increased public sector accountability. Currently this gap is being filled by Twitter, in a crude way, but the potential is clear.?
How do you see the PPP arrangement with MSMEs looking like conceptually? Hopefully not to be financially sustained by Government, keeping in mind the reality of cartels / MNC lobbyists / tenderpreneurs who will quickly hijack it, establish themselves as gatekeepers and turn it into a rent seeking charade? I am of the view that the data should be provided for free to anyone (e.g. via secure government APIs) and MSMEs should find their own ways of "monetizing" it by creating innovative value-add propositions e.g. unique methods of analysis to yield forensic or predictive insights, independent content publishing or journalism.
Crowd funding via voluntary donations could also come into play to provide additional financial sustenance and maximize public ownership/goodwill around the initiative.
The open model will keep cartels away because there is real work and real value creation involved with no "assured income" and no gatekeepers to collect rent. Incidentally, these difficulties will attract real entrepreneurs, so it's a great way of screening.
I think the idea (or different flavors of it) is worth piloting e.g. at a progressive County or Ministry (perhaps in partnership with a local University or TVET institution). Let's see what happens, now that the idea is in the public domain. Great potential for creating new jobs and for inspiring an R&D culture that focuses on solving real-world problems.
Have a great evening!
Brgds,Patrick.
Patrick A. M. Maina[Cross-domain Innovator | Public Policy Analyst - Indigenous Innovations]
On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 5:13 PM Patrick A. M. Maina <pmaina2000@yahoo.com <mailto:pmaina2000@yahoo.com>> wrote:
Noted Muraya & thanks for clarifying. True. Public projects should have public oversight unless there are clear compelling reasons, in public interest, to the contrary. So, if I understand you correctly, the role of MSMEs would be to: 1. Create public information web portals and keep them updated regularly. 2. Collect accurate updates on government projects (e.g. go to project sites take photos and conduct contractor interviews every month; also collect data from relevant agencies) and update the data to the portal. 3. Conduct analyses on data and publish fairly objective scorecard/dashboard reports for all eligible government projects.? Is that similar to what you had in mind?? What would the SME business model look like to avoid a rent-seeking type arrangement that in itself would be subject to corruption (which would turn the whole idea into a big mess)? Though I support the idea of initial seed capital from gov, I think the SMEs would have to sustain themselves independently afterwards for it to make sense e.g. through ads or some indirect synergies where the portal adds value to their core business. New Media businesses (independent publishers) for example might use this to boost their traffic/engagement (and advertising revenues). Govenment could spice it up by creating a whistleblower bounty program where people who help identify corruption are paid x% of funds recovered (a graduated scale can be used, with hard capping). There would of course be need for smart rules to ensure the bounty program itself is not turned by cartels into a racket to fleece the gov. I think you're on to something... Brgds,Patrick.
Thanks for your thoughts Jimmy, and for the useful resources, Agreed, economic planning needs to be data driven and strategic. Just to add that if indeed the data shows that we don't have comparative advantage in the sugar/maize sector, the study should also suggest what we can do as an alternative, so that we don't leave people worse off in pursuit of strategic (in)efficiency. Perhaps Kenya can earn higher quality revenue as a value-add processing destination for, say, Sudan and Malawi, if the data says so, and in that case reciprocal trade treaties would be made (if AfCFTA doesn't remove the need for such) and County governments would organize the villagers to form import-process-export Cooperatives to transform the raw product, and export it within the region or internationally in processed form. That would be a good complement mix of strategic efficiency on one side balanced by strategic inefficiency on another side. Motivations are at the heart of everything: If the goal behind every strategic economic decision is to leave the bottom-of pyramid majority better off as much as possible, our country will rapidly rise from poverty and enjoy the resultant benefits (e.g. a predictable political climate which attracts more prosperity... a positive feedback loop). On get rich quick startups, I would disagree with your views because a get rich quick mentality is a key trait for entrepreneurship - if it comes from a value creation perspective. It is about recognizing that resources are scarce and therefore looking for the most productive way to allocate capital by generating compelling high value propositions for society. Even investors want to get rich quick from their investments.. because they trade in capital (and have many lower-risk options e.g. bond markets)... and that's why the less sophisticated ones ask for outrageous equity for minimal investment (literally sabotaging themselves) and push to exit with multiples in less than 5-7 years which leads to a lot of craziness (and often guaranteed failure / loss). "It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest." - Adam Smith - Wealth of Nations (https://www.investopedia.com/updates/adam-smith-wealth-of-nations/) Get rich quick becomes a problem when it is linked to extraction (deception / theft / plunder) instead of real value creation. But that is mitigated by rules (regulations), oversight (e.g. board representation) and checks/balances (e.g. investor appointed counter-signatories like CFOs). Systems fix these things. Competent investors understand risk and would give credible reasons like high transaction costs (heterogeneous markets / low disposable incomes - which works against population size, political uncertainty, arbitrary rules, corruption which lowers rust in redress institutions like courts, lack of credible exit paths, liquidity challenges, inflation and fragile currency). On financial services, beside the fact that it would displace jobs geographically (which would leave the now jobless farmers worse off), I don't think its a sustainable path for mass jobs creation (or growth). That sector is already being massively disrupted by tech - and things will get worse as Fintech AI becomes more reliable, accessible and affordable. Have a great day! Brgds,Patrick. Patrick A. M. Maina[Cross-domain Innovator | Public Policy Analyst - Indigenous Innovations] On Saturday, May 4, 2019, 11:47:14 AM GMT+3, Jimmy Gitonga <jimmygitts@gmail.com> wrote: This is what I think about the two issues. We need Citizen Report Cards. We need to find a way to do this by crowd sourcing not just the information, but the funding as well. At some point, Kenyans who are wealthy enough to offer patronage to citizen worthy causes and projects. This is the same for the seed funding required to develop local, indigenous ideas that have a potential to benefit all of us. The first obstacle we must get rid of is the “get rich quick” mentality in the “startup" fad. Sadly, we are mostly suspicious of one another in this country so few are willing to give money to a visibly worthy cause because the said startup entrepreneurs will probably line their pockets and not succeed in fulfilling the “social contract”. But if we went past these small issues, we can build web portals that visualise a lot of public data such as the KNBS census and household data. I did some work with Mzalendo Trust where a report was done on the Women representatives in the 11th Parliament. It was released as an infographic that really was a score card - http://info.mzalendo.com/media_root/file_archive/WP-Contributions_11th_Parli.... We did some research on what the baseline issues should be in the counties these women represent. We found the Kenya Socio-economic Atlas invaluable - https://www.kenya-atlas.org/. We were able to see that Kenya should really be divided around its climatic predispositions and state funding should flow with these conditions in mind. I asked myself, why can’t the Kenya Atlas be made interactive and up-to-date? As it is, it is a fantastic source of data for socio-economic policy development. After talking to the program manager at CETRAD and remembering some conversations with a commissioner at the Commission on Revenue Allocation, I think that this is a worthwhile thing to pursue. This then informs and frames the issue of strategic inefficiency. Just by looking at the Kenya Atlas, one could quickly understand why sugar cane growing in Kenya will never be sustainable compared to the COMESA region. The inefficiencies in the sugar sector do keep a lot of farmers busy but these jobs are not sustainable. We have a lot of the information and most of the tools that we can use to make Kenya strategically efficient in this region for our benefit. If sugar from Sudan and maize from Malawi are cheaper to buy than to grow and the fact that we have a larger source of educated human resource and are leading in financial services means we have things we can trade in with our neighbours, to our benefit. The cheap and unnecessary political animosity we seem to encourage with our COMESA exemptions would be dissipated. These types of information can be disseminated as Citizen Report Cards with the added benefit of civic education that would result from discussions around the reports. After the Women Representatives report card, Parliamentarians began using the Mzalendo score cards in their re-election material. Best Regards,Jimmy Gitonga Web Software Design and Development LinkedIn: Jimmy Gitonga | Twitter: @Afrowave______________________________________ Web: afroshok.com Indeed, Crowd Sourced Citizen Report Cards could lead to increased public sector accountability. Currently this gap is being filled by Twitter, in a crude way, but the potential is clear.? How do you see the PPP arrangement with MSMEs looking like conceptually? Hopefully not to be financially sustained by Government, keeping in mind the reality of cartels / MNC lobbyists / tenderpreneurs who will quickly hijack it, establish themselves as gatekeepers and turn it into a rent seeking charade? I am of the view that the data should be provided for free to anyone (e.g. via secure government APIs) and MSMEs should find their own ways of "monetizing" it by creating innovative value-add propositions e.g. unique methods of analysis to yield forensic or predictive insights, independent content publishing or journalism. Crowd funding via voluntary donations could also come into play to provide additional financial sustenance and maximize public ownership/goodwill around the initiative. The open model will keep cartels away because there is real work and real value creation involved with no "assured income" and no gatekeepers to collect rent. Incidentally, these difficulties will attract real entrepreneurs, so it's a great way of screening. I think the idea (or different flavors of it) is worth piloting e.g. at a progressive County or Ministry (perhaps in partnership with a local University or TVET institution). Let's see what happens, now that the idea is in the public domain. Great potential for creating new jobs and for inspiring an R&D culture that focuses on solving real-world problems. Have a great evening! Brgds,Patrick. Patrick A. M. Maina[Cross-domain Innovator | Public Policy Analyst - Indigenous Innovations] On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 5:13 PM Patrick A. M. Maina <pmaina2000@yahoo.com> wrote: Noted Muraya & thanks for clarifying. True. Public projects should have public oversight unless there are clear compelling reasons, in public interest, to the contrary. So, if I understand you correctly, the role of MSMEs would be to: 1. Create public information web portals and keep them updated regularly. 2. Collect accurate updates on government projects (e.g. go to project sites take photos and conduct contractor interviews every month; also collect data from relevant agencies) and update the data to the portal. 3. Conduct analyses on data and publish fairly objective scorecard/dashboard reports for all eligible government projects.? Is that similar to what you had in mind?? What would the SME business model look like to avoid a rent-seeking type arrangement that in itself would be subject to corruption (which would turn the whole idea into a big mess)? Though I support the idea of initial seed capital from gov, I think the SMEs would have to sustain themselves independently afterwards for it to make sense e.g. through ads or some indirect synergies where the portal adds value to their core business. New Media businesses (independent publishers) for example might use this to boost their traffic/engagement (and advertising revenues). Govenment could spice it up by creating a whistleblower bounty program where people who help identify corruption are paid x% of funds recovered (a graduated scale can be used, with hard capping). There would of course be need for smart rules to ensure the bounty program itself is not turned by cartels into a racket to fleece the gov. I think you're on to something... Brgds,Patrick.
Thanks Patrick for the thorough reply. Your sentiment on the traits of an entrepreneur on get rich quick mentality is true. It is in creation of value and thus revenue received for offering a valuable product of service. Kweli kabisa and like you said, it is also true that "Get rich quick" becomes are problem when linked to “extractive” economies. But all the institutions offering oversight, rules or social contracts that are meant to counter “extraction" are not working yet here in this country. Working in the civil service in Kenya is an avenue to "get rich quick”. This is a mentality that has now permeated the “youth” and coming generations to the extent that renumeration is not viewed in a way as to be commensurate to work or that most businesses are into cutting costs and corners and not in creating value. The hard work is to reverse that mentality in the spaces we occupy and that work is going to be done with and through data. We have a demographic “youth bulge” that, depending on how you look at it, it is either a future source of labour and a future market or a socio-political time-bomb. My problem is how the global elite have hijacked “entrepreneurship” and are now selling it as a solution to social ills, many developed by the said elite. As Ory once said, "You can’t entrepreneur around bad leadership, we can’t entrepreneur around bad policy,” Okolloh said this while criticising what she called the “fetishisation” of entrepreneurship and neglect of fundamental problems hampering African countries. We need to work towards a market based on true demand-driven value. Education, based on information harnessed from data, is our ticket to establishing good policy at every level to establishing fair markets. Then we can entrepreneur and disrupt to our hearts’ content. Best Regards, Jimmy Gitonga Web Software Design and Development LinkedIn: Jimmy Gitonga | Twitter: @Afrowave ______________________________________ Web: afroshok.com <http://afroshok.com/>
On 7 May 2019, at 3:21 AM, Patrick A. M. Maina <pmaina2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
On get rich quick startups, I would disagree with your views because a get rich quick mentality is a key trait for entrepreneurship - if it comes from a value creation perspective. It is about recognising that resources are scarce and therefore looking for the most productive way to allocate capital by generating compelling high value propositions for society.
Even investors want to get rich quick from their investments.. because they trade in capital (and have many lower-risk options e.g. bond markets)... and that's why the less sophisticated ones ask for outrageous equity for minimal investment (literally sabotaging themselves) and push to exit with multiples in less than 5-7 years which leads to a lot of craziness (and often guaranteed failure / loss).
"It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest." - Adam Smith - Wealth of Nations (https://www.investopedia.com/updates/adam-smith-wealth-of-nations/) <https://www.investopedia.com/updates/adam-smith-wealth-of-nations/>
Get rich quick becomes a problem when it is linked to extraction (deception / theft / plunder) instead of real value creation. But that is mitigated by rules (regulations), oversight (e.g. board representation) and checks/balances (e.g. investor appointed counter-signatories like CFOs). Systems fix these things.
Competent investors understand risk and would give credible reasons like high transaction costs (heterogeneous markets / low disposable incomes - which works against population size, political uncertainty, arbitrary rules, corruption which lowers rust in redress institutions like courts, lack of credible exit paths, liquidity challenges, inflation and fragile currency).
On financial services, beside the fact that it would displace jobs geographically (which would leave the now jobless farmers worse off), I don't think its a sustainable path for mass jobs creation (or growth). That sector is already being massively disrupted by tech - and things will get worse as Fintech AI becomes more reliable, accessible and affordable.
Have a great day!
"You can’t entrepreneur around bad leadership, we can’t entrepreneur around bad policy.” 100% Sir! When the house in on fire, you don't start renovating, you scramble to deal with the fire first using whatever is at your disposal (bucket, cans etc), and you call the neighbors or whoever is nearby for help. Kenya's economy is on fire, and denial by leadership will only make things worse. Even though our leaders are telling us, enterpreneurs, to create jobs, how can we, when the business climate is so hostile, chaotic, unpredicable and harphazard? What is interesting is that case studies abound around the world (and in history) which should alert our elites that it is in their long-term best interests to listen to the cries of enterpreneurs and intellectuals. These people are natural problem solvers. Wise leaders will look beyond perceived politics into the substance of what is being said. If an idea is helpful, it shouldn't matter how it was originally packaged, what the perceived intent was, or whether the source is from the "in group" or "out group". Those are distractions. What matters is the merits and usefulness of the ideas. Disconnecting from reality only makes things worse: France, Sudan & Egypt are case studies that even brute force totalitarian leadership styles are ineffective if the lower pyramid economy is neglected. All it took for Sudan to tip over was something as "insignificant" as an increase to the price of BREAD. France is boiling because of pro-elite policies, which ironically shows how elites sabotage themselves when they lose restraint. Being out of touch means you never know the last straw until it is too late. I hope government stakeholders will realize that many of us are coming from a genuine place and we truly want to help make things better. We have on the ground insights based on real world experience and we know exactly where the shoe hurts. Why not make use of our skills/insights/experience for a win-win outcome? I urge our leaders to set up a well empowered rapid results economic task force with a focus on MSMEs. The team can be tasked to propose quick wins (economic pain relief) as well as strategic long-term measures that will generate a robust middleclass. It should have people who have demonstrated genuine concern for our economy, as well as the capacity to offer fresh and innovative ideas. Good day,Patrick. Patrick A. M. Maina[Cross-domain Innovator | Public Policy Analyst - Indigenous Innovations] On Tuesday, May 7, 2019, 12:36:15 PM GMT+3, Jimmy Gitonga <jimmygitts@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks Patrick for the thorough reply. Your sentiment on the traits of an entrepreneur on get rich quick mentality is true. It is in creation of value and thus revenue received for offering a valuable product of service. Kweli kabisa and like you said, it is also true that "Get rich quick" becomes are problem when linked to “extractive” economies. But all the institutions offering oversight, rules or social contracts that are meant to counter “extraction" are not working yet here in this country. Working in the civil service in Kenya is an avenue to "get rich quick”. This is a mentality that has now permeated the “youth” and coming generations to the extent that renumeration is not viewed in a way as to be commensurate to work or that most businesses are into cutting costs and corners and not in creating value. The hard work is to reverse that mentality in the spaces we occupy and that work is going to be done with and through data. We have a demographic “youth bulge” that, depending on how you look at it, it is either a future source of labour and a future market or a socio-political time-bomb. My problem is how the global elite have hijacked “entrepreneurship” and are now selling it as a solution to social ills, many developed by the said elite. As Ory once said, "You can’t entrepreneur around bad leadership, we can’t entrepreneur around bad policy,” Okolloh said this while criticising what she called the “fetishisation” of entrepreneurship and neglect of fundamental problems hampering African countries. We need to work towards a market based on true demand-driven value. Education, based on information harnessed from data, is our ticket to establishing good policy at every level to establishing fair markets. Then we can entrepreneur and disrupt to our hearts’ content. Best Regards,Jimmy Gitonga Web Software Design and Development LinkedIn: Jimmy Gitonga | Twitter: @Afrowave______________________________________ Web: afroshok.com On 7 May 2019, at 3:21 AM, Patrick A. M. Maina <pmaina2000@yahoo.com> wrote: On get rich quick startups, I would disagree with your views because a get rich quick mentality is a key trait for entrepreneurship - if it comes from a value creation perspective. It is about recognising that resources are scarce and therefore looking for the most productive way to allocate capital by generating compelling high value propositions for society. Even investors want to get rich quick from their investments.. because they trade in capital (and have many lower-risk options e.g. bond markets)... and that's why the less sophisticated ones ask for outrageous equity for minimal investment (literally sabotaging themselves) and push to exit with multiples in less than 5-7 years which leads to a lot of craziness (and often guaranteed failure / loss). "It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest." - Adam Smith - Wealth of Nations (https://www.investopedia.com/updates/adam-smith-wealth-of-nations/) Get rich quick becomes a problem when it is linked to extraction (deception / theft / plunder) instead of real value creation. But that is mitigated by rules (regulations), oversight (e.g. board representation) and checks/balances (e.g. investor appointed counter-signatories like CFOs). Systems fix these things. Competent investors understand risk and would give credible reasons like high transaction costs (heterogeneous markets / low disposable incomes - which works against population size, political uncertainty, arbitrary rules, corruption which lowers rust in redress institutions like courts, lack of credible exit paths, liquidity challenges, inflation and fragile currency). On financial services, beside the fact that it would displace jobs geographically (which would leave the now jobless farmers worse off), I don't think its a sustainable path for mass jobs creation (or growth). That sector is already being massively disrupted by tech - and things will get worse as Fintech AI becomes more reliable, accessible and affordable. Have a great day!
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Jimmy Great post! Thanks for sharing and double thanks for that Atlas of Kenya. The possibilities are immense. On the sugar issue. Let me add my two cents. It's not that sugar cannot be sustainably grown in Kenya. Three reasons I know of that make it impossible to grow sugar sustainably in Kenya. 1. It is grown in the wrong region!! This may not be the politically correct thing to say here but here goes. The coastal region of Kenya can grow sugar in about half the time it takes to grow it in the western region. Political expediency and environmentalists opposed to the Tana Delta project has made this impossible to achieve. 2. Leadership and Diversification is another one. Take a look at the Kenana case study in Sudan. https://www.ide.go.jp/English/Data/Africa_file/Company/sudan04.html 3. Sugar barons. Need I say more? @Jimmy, information like what you have shared will debunk some of these issues and make for better exploitation of resources in this country. Regards *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *AHK & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 11:47 AM Jimmy Gitonga via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
This is what I think about the two issues.
We need Citizen Report Cards. We need to find a way to do this by crowd sourcing not just the information, but the funding as well. At some point, Kenyans who are wealthy enough to offer patronage to citizen worthy causes and projects. This is the same for the seed funding required to develop local, indigenous ideas that have a potential to benefit all of us.
The first obstacle we must get rid of is the “get rich quick” mentality in the “startup" fad. Sadly, we are mostly suspicious of one another in this country so few are willing to give money to a visibly worthy cause because the said startup entrepreneurs will probably line their pockets and not succeed in fulfilling the “social contract”.
But if we went past these small issues, we can build web portals that visualise a lot of public data such as the KNBS census and household data. I did some work with Mzalendo Trust where a report was done on the Women representatives in the 11th Parliament. It was released as an infographic that really was a score card - http://info.mzalendo.com/media_root/file_archive/WP-Contributions_11th_Parli... .
We did some research on what the baseline issues should be in the counties these women represent. We found the Kenya Socio-economic Atlas invaluable - https://www.kenya-atlas.org/. We were able to see that Kenya should really be divided around its climatic predispositions and state funding should flow with these conditions in mind.
I asked myself, why can’t the Kenya Atlas be made interactive and up-to-date? As it is, it is a fantastic source of data for socio-economic policy development. After talking to the program manager at CETRAD and remembering some conversations with a commissioner at the Commission on Revenue Allocation, I think that this is a worthwhile thing to pursue.
This then informs and frames the issue of strategic inefficiency. Just by looking at the Kenya Atlas, one could quickly understand why sugar cane growing in Kenya will never be sustainable compared to the COMESA region. The inefficiencies in the sugar sector do keep a lot of farmers busy but these jobs are not sustainable.
We have a lot of the information and most of the tools that we can use to make Kenya strategically efficient in this region for our benefit. If sugar from Sudan and maize from Malawi are cheaper to buy than to grow and the fact that we have a larger source of educated human resource and are leading in financial services means we have things we can trade in with our neighbours, to our benefit. The cheap and unnecessary political animosity we seem to encourage with our COMESA exemptions would be dissipated.
These types of information can be disseminated as Citizen Report Cards with the added benefit of civic education that would result from discussions around the reports. After the Women Representatives report card, Parliamentarians began using the Mzalendo score cards in their re-election material.
Best Regards, *Jimmy Gitonga*
*Web Software Design and Development * *LinkedIn: Jimmy Gitonga | Twitter: @Afrowave* ______________________________________
*Web*: afroshok.com
Indeed, Crowd Sourced Citizen Report Cards could lead to increased public sector accountability. Currently this gap is being filled by Twitter, in a crude way, but the potential is clear.?
How do you see the PPP arrangement with MSMEs looking like conceptually? Hopefully not to be financially sustained by Government, keeping in mind the reality of cartels / MNC lobbyists / tenderpreneurs who will quickly hijack it, establish themselves as gatekeepers and turn it into a rent seeking charade? I am of the view that the data should be provided for free to anyone (e.g. via secure government APIs) and MSMEs should find their own ways of "monetizing" it by creating innovative value-add propositions e.g. unique methods of analysis to yield forensic or predictive insights, independent content publishing or journalism.
Crowd funding via voluntary donations could also come into play to provide additional financial sustenance and maximize public ownership/goodwill around the initiative.
The open model will keep cartels away because there is real work and real value creation involved with no "assured income" and no gatekeepers to collect rent. Incidentally, these difficulties will attract real entrepreneurs, so it's a great way of screening.
I think the idea (or different flavors of it) is worth piloting e.g. at a progressive County or Ministry (perhaps in partnership with a local University or TVET institution). Let's see what happens, now that the idea is in the public domain. Great potential for creating new jobs and for inspiring an R&D culture that focuses on solving real-world problems.
Have a great evening!
Brgds,Patrick.
Patrick A. M. Maina[Cross-domain Innovator | Public Policy Analyst - Indigenous Innovations]
On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 5:13 PM Patrick A. M. Maina <pmaina2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
Noted Muraya & thanks for clarifying. True. Public projects should have public oversight unless there are clear compelling reasons, in public interest, to the contrary. So, if I understand you correctly, the role of MSMEs would be to: 1. Create public information web portals and keep them updated regularly. 2. Collect accurate updates on government projects (e.g. go to project sites take photos and conduct contractor interviews every month; also collect data from relevant agencies) and update the data to the portal. 3. Conduct analyses on data and publish fairly objective scorecard/dashboard reports for all eligible government projects.? Is that similar to what you had in mind?? What would the SME business model look like to avoid a rent-seeking type arrangement that in itself would be subject to corruption (which would turn the whole idea into a big mess)? Though I support the idea of initial seed capital from gov, I think the SMEs would have to sustain themselves independently afterwards for it to make sense e.g. through ads or some indirect synergies where the portal adds value to their core business. New Media businesses (independent publishers) for example might use this to boost their traffic/engagement (and advertising revenues). Govenment could spice it up by creating a whistleblower bounty program where people who help identify corruption are paid x% of funds recovered (a graduated scale can be used, with hard capping). There would of course be need for smart rules to ensure the bounty program itself is not turned by cartels into a racket to fleece the gov. I think you're on to something... Brgds,Patrick.
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Ali! Thank you ndugu. As for your sentiments about the sugar growing difficulties in Kenya, I agree completely with your assessment. I am of the opinion the day we get progressive leaders, we, as citizens, should have prepared to work with then at that time. So with those words, is it possible for us to find or put together data on the sugar industry in Kenya in particular about this? Your Kenana case study link is a perfect example. 1. The first factories were established in Kenya in the early 20’s were private in Miwani, Nyanza and in Kwale. Sugar was initially planned in Kenya using the Swynnerton Plan of 1954. But it was for settlers only. The Sessional Paper No. 10 of 1965 was for “African Socialism” as a guiding principle to agricultural produce. The problem with Kenya is that we still use “Kenia” plantation plans and once those in civil service were allowed to do business through the Ndegwa Report of 1972, any idea of “Socialism” died. With data, the fixation wth western Kenya should and must end for the sake of those Kenyans in the region. 2. With data, we can show that the Tana Delta, that currently is in an area that the initial settlers and the latter colonial chiefs “elite” were not part of, is good for producing sugar. It will benefit those areas that were initially and currently marginalised and would work into making Kenya a viable “nation”. 3. With more data, new laws for COMESA trade would be established because now Kenya would no longer be afraid of a “free market” in sugar. Barons would be the people who can create business in the region not just "rent seekers” with inroads of favouritism and corruption. I am interested in using cases like this to build models that can be used later to build and help make data-driven decisions, and not just for governments, national or county but all the way to village/sub location level. We need to make decisions for ourselves on how we want to live. Best Regards, Jimmy Gitonga Web Software Design and Development LinkedIn: Jimmy Gitonga | Twitter: @Afrowave ______________________________________ Web: afroshok.com <http://afroshok.com/>
On 7 May 2019, at 5:39 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Jimmy
Great post! Thanks for sharing and double thanks for that Atlas of Kenya. The possibilities are immense.
On the sugar issue. Let me add my two cents.
It's not that sugar cannot be sustainably grown in Kenya. Three reasons I know of that make it impossible to grow sugar sustainably in Kenya.
1. It is grown in the wrong region!! This may not be the politically correct thing to say here but here goes. The coastal region of Kenya can grow sugar in about half the time it takes to grow it in the western region. Political expediency and environmentalists opposed to the Tana Delta project has made this impossible to achieve. 2. Leadership and Diversification is another one. Take a look at the Kenana case study in Sudan. https://www.ide.go.jp/English/Data/Africa_file/Company/sudan04.html <https://www.ide.go.jp/English/Data/Africa_file/Company/sudan04.html> 3. Sugar barons. Need I say more?
@Jimmy, information like what you have shared will debunk some of these issues and make for better exploitation of resources in this country.
Regards
Ali Hussein Principal AHK & Associates
Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
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On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 11:47 AM Jimmy Gitonga via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: This is what I think about the two issues.
We need Citizen Report Cards. We need to find a way to do this by crowd sourcing not just the information, but the funding as well. At some point, Kenyans who are wealthy enough to offer patronage to citizen worthy causes and projects. This is the same for the seed funding required to develop local, indigenous ideas that have a potential to benefit all of us.
The first obstacle we must get rid of is the “get rich quick” mentality in the “startup" fad. Sadly, we are mostly suspicious of one another in this country so few are willing to give money to a visibly worthy cause because the said startup entrepreneurs will probably line their pockets and not succeed in fulfilling the “social contract”.
But if we went past these small issues, we can build web portals that visualise a lot of public data such as the KNBS census and household data. I did some work with Mzalendo Trust where a report was done on the Women representatives in the 11th Parliament. It was released as an infographic that really was a score card - http://info.mzalendo.com/media_root/file_archive/WP-Contributions_11th_Parli... <http://info.mzalendo.com/media_root/file_archive/WP-Contributions_11th_Parliament.pdf>.
We did some research on what the baseline issues should be in the counties these women represent. We found the Kenya Socio-economic Atlas invaluable - https://www.kenya-atlas.org/ <https://www.kenya-atlas.org/>. We were able to see that Kenya should really be divided around its climatic predispositions and state funding should flow with these conditions in mind.
I asked myself, why can’t the Kenya Atlas be made interactive and up-to-date? As it is, it is a fantastic source of data for socio-economic policy development. After talking to the program manager at CETRAD and remembering some conversations with a commissioner at the Commission on Revenue Allocation, I think that this is a worthwhile thing to pursue.
This then informs and frames the issue of strategic inefficiency. Just by looking at the Kenya Atlas, one could quickly understand why sugar cane growing in Kenya will never be sustainable compared to the COMESA region. The inefficiencies in the sugar sector do keep a lot of farmers busy but these jobs are not sustainable.
We have a lot of the information and most of the tools that we can use to make Kenya strategically efficient in this region for our benefit. If sugar from Sudan and maize from Malawi are cheaper to buy than to grow and the fact that we have a larger source of educated human resource and are leading in financial services means we have things we can trade in with our neighbours, to our benefit. The cheap and unnecessary political animosity we seem to encourage with our COMESA exemptions would be dissipated.
These types of information can be disseminated as Citizen Report Cards with the added benefit of civic education that would result from discussions around the reports. After the Women Representatives report card, Parliamentarians began using the Mzalendo score cards in their re-election material.
Best Regards, Jimmy Gitonga
Web Software Design and Development LinkedIn: Jimmy Gitonga | Twitter: @Afrowave ______________________________________
Web: afroshok.com <http://afroshok.com/>
Indeed, Crowd Sourced Citizen Report Cards could lead to increased public sector accountability. Currently this gap is being filled by Twitter, in a crude way, but the potential is clear.?
How do you see the PPP arrangement with MSMEs looking like conceptually? Hopefully not to be financially sustained by Government, keeping in mind the reality of cartels / MNC lobbyists / tenderpreneurs who will quickly hijack it, establish themselves as gatekeepers and turn it into a rent seeking charade? I am of the view that the data should be provided for free to anyone (e.g. via secure government APIs) and MSMEs should find their own ways of "monetizing" it by creating innovative value-add propositions e.g. unique methods of analysis to yield forensic or predictive insights, independent content publishing or journalism.
Crowd funding via voluntary donations could also come into play to provide additional financial sustenance and maximize public ownership/goodwill around the initiative.
The open model will keep cartels away because there is real work and real value creation involved with no "assured income" and no gatekeepers to collect rent. Incidentally, these difficulties will attract real entrepreneurs, so it's a great way of screening.
I think the idea (or different flavors of it) is worth piloting e.g. at a progressive County or Ministry (perhaps in partnership with a local University or TVET institution). Let's see what happens, now that the idea is in the public domain. Great potential for creating new jobs and for inspiring an R&D culture that focuses on solving real-world problems.
Have a great evening!
Brgds,Patrick.
Patrick A. M. Maina[Cross-domain Innovator | Public Policy Analyst - Indigenous Innovations]
On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 5:13 PM Patrick A. M. Maina <pmaina2000@yahoo.com <mailto:pmaina2000@yahoo.com>> wrote:
Noted Muraya & thanks for clarifying. True. Public projects should have public oversight unless there are clear compelling reasons, in public interest, to the contrary. So, if I understand you correctly, the role of MSMEs would be to: 1. Create public information web portals and keep them updated regularly. 2. Collect accurate updates on government projects (e.g. go to project sites take photos and conduct contractor interviews every month; also collect data from relevant agencies) and update the data to the portal. 3. Conduct analyses on data and publish fairly objective scorecard/dashboard reports for all eligible government projects.? Is that similar to what you had in mind?? What would the SME business model look like to avoid a rent-seeking type arrangement that in itself would be subject to corruption (which would turn the whole idea into a big mess)? Though I support the idea of initial seed capital from gov, I think the SMEs would have to sustain themselves independently afterwards for it to make sense e.g. through ads or some indirect synergies where the portal adds value to their core business. New Media businesses (independent publishers) for example might use this to boost their traffic/engagement (and advertising revenues). Govenment could spice it up by creating a whistleblower bounty program where people who help identify corruption are paid x% of funds recovered (a graduated scale can be used, with hard capping). There would of course be need for smart rules to ensure the bounty program itself is not turned by cartels into a racket to fleece the gov. I think you're on to something... Brgds,Patrick.
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Jimmy Yes. We must own our own narrative. Your passion for this subject is telling and I'm happy to jump on your bandwagon and assist any which way I can. Regards *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *AHK & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 11:28 AM Jimmy Gitonga <jimmygitts@gmail.com> wrote:
Ali!
Thank you ndugu. As for your sentiments about the sugar growing difficulties in Kenya, I agree completely with your assessment. I am of the opinion the day we get progressive leaders, we, as citizens, should have prepared to work with then at that time.
So with those words, is it possible for us to find or put together data on the sugar industry in Kenya in particular about this? Your Kenana case study link is a perfect example.
1. The first factories were established in Kenya in the early 20’s were private in Miwani, Nyanza and in Kwale. Sugar was initially planned in Kenya using the Swynnerton Plan of 1954. But it was for settlers only. The Sessional Paper No. 10 of 1965 was for “African Socialism” as a guiding principle to agricultural produce. The problem with Kenya is that we still use “Kenia” plantation plans and once those in civil service were allowed to do business through the Ndegwa Report of 1972, any idea of “Socialism” died. With data, the fixation wth western Kenya should and must end for the sake of those Kenyans in the region.
2. With data, we can show that the Tana Delta, that currently is in an area that the initial settlers and the latter colonial chiefs “elite” were not part of, is good for producing sugar. It will benefit those areas that were initially and currently marginalised and would work into making Kenya a viable “nation”.
3. With more data, new laws for COMESA trade would be established because now Kenya would no longer be afraid of a “free market” in sugar. Barons would be the people who can create business in the region not just "rent seekers” with inroads of favouritism and corruption.
I am interested in using cases like this to build models that can be used later to build and help make data-driven decisions, and not just for governments, national or county but all the way to village/sub location level.
We need to make decisions for ourselves on how we want to live.
Best Regards, *Jimmy Gitonga*
*Web Software Design and Development * *LinkedIn: Jimmy Gitonga | Twitter: @Afrowave* ______________________________________
*Web*: afroshok.com
On 7 May 2019, at 5:39 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Jimmy
Great post! Thanks for sharing and double thanks for that Atlas of Kenya. The possibilities are immense.
On the sugar issue. Let me add my two cents.
It's not that sugar cannot be sustainably grown in Kenya. Three reasons I know of that make it impossible to grow sugar sustainably in Kenya.
1. It is grown in the wrong region!! This may not be the politically correct thing to say here but here goes. The coastal region of Kenya can grow sugar in about half the time it takes to grow it in the western region. Political expediency and environmentalists opposed to the Tana Delta project has made this impossible to achieve. 2. Leadership and Diversification is another one. Take a look at the Kenana case study in Sudan. https://www.ide.go.jp/English/Data/Africa_file/Company/sudan04.html 3. Sugar barons. Need I say more?
@Jimmy, information like what you have shared will debunk some of these issues and make for better exploitation of resources in this country.
Regards
*Ali Hussein* *Principal* *AHK & Associates*
Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya.
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 11:47 AM Jimmy Gitonga via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
This is what I think about the two issues.
We need Citizen Report Cards. We need to find a way to do this by crowd sourcing not just the information, but the funding as well. At some point, Kenyans who are wealthy enough to offer patronage to citizen worthy causes and projects. This is the same for the seed funding required to develop local, indigenous ideas that have a potential to benefit all of us.
The first obstacle we must get rid of is the “get rich quick” mentality in the “startup" fad. Sadly, we are mostly suspicious of one another in this country so few are willing to give money to a visibly worthy cause because the said startup entrepreneurs will probably line their pockets and not succeed in fulfilling the “social contract”.
But if we went past these small issues, we can build web portals that visualise a lot of public data such as the KNBS census and household data. I did some work with Mzalendo Trust where a report was done on the Women representatives in the 11th Parliament. It was released as an infographic that really was a score card - http://info.mzalendo.com/media_root/file_archive/WP-Contributions_11th_Parli... .
We did some research on what the baseline issues should be in the counties these women represent. We found the Kenya Socio-economic Atlas invaluable - https://www.kenya-atlas.org/. We were able to see that Kenya should really be divided around its climatic predispositions and state funding should flow with these conditions in mind.
I asked myself, why can’t the Kenya Atlas be made interactive and up-to-date? As it is, it is a fantastic source of data for socio-economic policy development. After talking to the program manager at CETRAD and remembering some conversations with a commissioner at the Commission on Revenue Allocation, I think that this is a worthwhile thing to pursue.
This then informs and frames the issue of strategic inefficiency. Just by looking at the Kenya Atlas, one could quickly understand why sugar cane growing in Kenya will never be sustainable compared to the COMESA region. The inefficiencies in the sugar sector do keep a lot of farmers busy but these jobs are not sustainable.
We have a lot of the information and most of the tools that we can use to make Kenya strategically efficient in this region for our benefit. If sugar from Sudan and maize from Malawi are cheaper to buy than to grow and the fact that we have a larger source of educated human resource and are leading in financial services means we have things we can trade in with our neighbours, to our benefit. The cheap and unnecessary political animosity we seem to encourage with our COMESA exemptions would be dissipated.
These types of information can be disseminated as Citizen Report Cards with the added benefit of civic education that would result from discussions around the reports. After the Women Representatives report card, Parliamentarians began using the Mzalendo score cards in their re-election material.
Best Regards, *Jimmy Gitonga*
*Web Software Design and Development * *LinkedIn: Jimmy Gitonga | Twitter: @Afrowave* ______________________________________
*Web*: afroshok.com
Indeed, Crowd Sourced Citizen Report Cards could lead to increased public sector accountability. Currently this gap is being filled by Twitter, in a crude way, but the potential is clear.?
How do you see the PPP arrangement with MSMEs looking like conceptually? Hopefully not to be financially sustained by Government, keeping in mind the reality of cartels / MNC lobbyists / tenderpreneurs who will quickly hijack it, establish themselves as gatekeepers and turn it into a rent seeking charade? I am of the view that the data should be provided for free to anyone (e.g. via secure government APIs) and MSMEs should find their own ways of "monetizing" it by creating innovative value-add propositions e.g. unique methods of analysis to yield forensic or predictive insights, independent content publishing or journalism.
Crowd funding via voluntary donations could also come into play to provide additional financial sustenance and maximize public ownership/goodwill around the initiative.
The open model will keep cartels away because there is real work and real value creation involved with no "assured income" and no gatekeepers to collect rent. Incidentally, these difficulties will attract real entrepreneurs, so it's a great way of screening.
I think the idea (or different flavors of it) is worth piloting e.g. at a progressive County or Ministry (perhaps in partnership with a local University or TVET institution). Let's see what happens, now that the idea is in the public domain. Great potential for creating new jobs and for inspiring an R&D culture that focuses on solving real-world problems.
Have a great evening!
Brgds,Patrick.
Patrick A. M. Maina[Cross-domain Innovator | Public Policy Analyst - Indigenous Innovations]
On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 5:13 PM Patrick A. M. Maina <pmaina2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
Noted Muraya & thanks for clarifying. True. Public projects should have public oversight unless there are clear compelling reasons, in public interest, to the contrary. So, if I understand you correctly, the role of MSMEs would be to: 1. Create public information web portals and keep them updated regularly. 2. Collect accurate updates on government projects (e.g. go to project sites take photos and conduct contractor interviews every month; also collect data from relevant agencies) and update the data to the portal. 3. Conduct analyses on data and publish fairly objective scorecard/dashboard reports for all eligible government projects.? Is that similar to what you had in mind?? What would the SME business model look like to avoid a rent-seeking type arrangement that in itself would be subject to corruption (which would turn the whole idea into a big mess)? Though I support the idea of initial seed capital from gov, I think the SMEs would have to sustain themselves independently afterwards for it to make sense e.g. through ads or some indirect synergies where the portal adds value to their core business. New Media businesses (independent publishers) for example might use this to boost their traffic/engagement (and advertising revenues). Govenment could spice it up by creating a whistleblower bounty program where people who help identify corruption are paid x% of funds recovered (a graduated scale can be used, with hard capping). There would of course be need for smart rules to ensure the bounty program itself is not turned by cartels into a racket to fleece the gov. I think you're on to something... Brgds,Patrick.
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