Connectivity vs Sound investments : Loon Project is Shutting Down
Alphabet’s Internet Loon Project is Shutting Down, Blow to Telkom Kenya. **Loon launched a pilot project in Kenya in 2020 1. https://medium.com/loon-for-all/loon-draft-c3fcebc11f3f *Kind Regards,* *David Indeje *
Not a blow to Telkom Kenya at all, but a blow for the underserved. Loon was a 4G/LTE coverage infrastructure provider using floating cell towers for hard to reach areas. Telkom would lease the infrastructure the same way you can lease masts from other infrastructure providers. Since it is a floating tower for underserved areas, the business case becomes difficult to justify because there is no critical mass in those areas to cover the value chain. And that is why subsidies are important in ensuring the marginalized still enjoy some semblance of internet access like the more privileged citizens in more urban areas. ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya https://www.linkedin.com/in/mwendwa-kivuva On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 at 10:22, David Indeje via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Alphabet’s Internet Loon Project is Shutting Down, Blow to Telkom Kenya.
**Loon launched a pilot project in Kenya in 2020
1. https://medium.com/loon-for-all/loon-draft-c3fcebc11f3f
*Kind Regards,*
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The reason I said it was a blow besides Astro Teller, CEO of X, chairman of Loon’s board pledging a $10 million fund to support businesses focused on connectivity, education, entrepreneurship and internet in Kenya, is that, the time it took for Telkom to start using the infrastructure cannot be washed away from 2018 to be effected 2020. True, the underserved will feel it. A question that triggers other questions and concerns from Listers on this platform on community networks, ICT Authority's and Communication Authority's time frame to ensure we close this gap. *Kind Regards,* *David Indeje * +254 (0) 711 385 945 | +254 (0) 734 024 856 On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 at 11:42, Mwendwa Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Not a blow to Telkom Kenya at all, but a blow for the underserved. Loon was a 4G/LTE coverage infrastructure provider using floating cell towers for hard to reach areas. Telkom would lease the infrastructure the same way you can lease masts from other infrastructure providers.
Since it is a floating tower for underserved areas, the business case becomes difficult to justify because there is no critical mass in those areas to cover the value chain. And that is why subsidies are important in ensuring the marginalized still enjoy some semblance of internet access like the more privileged citizens in more urban areas. ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya https://www.linkedin.com/in/mwendwa-kivuva
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 at 10:22, David Indeje via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Alphabet’s Internet Loon Project is Shutting Down, Blow to Telkom Kenya.
**Loon launched a pilot project in Kenya in 2020
1. https://medium.com/loon-for-all/loon-draft-c3fcebc11f3f
*Kind Regards,*
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@David Indeje <davidindeje@gmail.com> Terribly news, Loon left before reaching Omabei, like @Mwendwa Kivuva <kivuva@kictanet.or.ke> says, we might not have had a good business case for it. Isorait as it is said in my village On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 12:20 PM David Indeje via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The reason I said it was a blow besides Astro Teller, CEO of X, chairman of Loon’s board pledging a $10 million fund to support businesses focused on connectivity, education, entrepreneurship and internet in Kenya, is that, the time it took for Telkom to start using the infrastructure cannot be washed away from 2018 to be effected 2020.
True, the underserved will feel it. A question that triggers other questions and concerns from Listers on this platform on community networks, ICT Authority's and Communication Authority's time frame to ensure we close this gap.
*Kind Regards,*
*David Indeje * +254 (0) 711 385 945 | +254 (0) 734 024 856
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 at 11:42, Mwendwa Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Not a blow to Telkom Kenya at all, but a blow for the underserved. Loon was a 4G/LTE coverage infrastructure provider using floating cell towers for hard to reach areas. Telkom would lease the infrastructure the same way you can lease masts from other infrastructure providers.
Since it is a floating tower for underserved areas, the business case becomes difficult to justify because there is no critical mass in those areas to cover the value chain. And that is why subsidies are important in ensuring the marginalized still enjoy some semblance of internet access like the more privileged citizens in more urban areas. ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya https://www.linkedin.com/in/mwendwa-kivuva
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 at 10:22, David Indeje via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Alphabet’s Internet Loon Project is Shutting Down, Blow to Telkom Kenya.
**Loon launched a pilot project in Kenya in 2020
1. https://medium.com/loon-for-all/loon-draft-c3fcebc11f3f
*Kind Regards,*
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The way I look at it... Marrying the digital divide to business case (as defined in the corporate world) would always have the same repercussions... Not making financial sense to keep a project going. When we look at the underserved areas, some re-definitions need to be made. Sticking to defining business case / profitability in Nairobi and that in off-the-grid place e.g. Bombi Village (in the vast interiors of Kilifi county) would definitely knock-off Bombi from getting ANY SERVICE! Having said that, wasn't USF meant to such issues? I think it is important that we revisit the utilisation of funds by USF. Whilst we are on this business case / profitability quagmire, let's look at the cases unfolding kids studying under trees, teachers with underlying conditions being forced to risk their lives as they have no alternative to deliver their duty of teaching... Can we put a price tag on this? Something to ponder on as the weekend starts! Regards Twahir On Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 4:37 PM Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@David Indeje <davidindeje@gmail.com> Terribly news, Loon left before reaching Omabei, like @Mwendwa Kivuva <kivuva@kictanet.or.ke> says, we might not have had a good business case for it.
Isorait as it is said in my village
On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 12:20 PM David Indeje via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The reason I said it was a blow besides Astro Teller, CEO of X, chairman of Loon’s board pledging a $10 million fund to support businesses focused on connectivity, education, entrepreneurship and internet in Kenya, is that, the time it took for Telkom to start using the infrastructure cannot be washed away from 2018 to be effected 2020.
True, the underserved will feel it. A question that triggers other questions and concerns from Listers on this platform on community networks, ICT Authority's and Communication Authority's time frame to ensure we close this gap.
*Kind Regards,*
*David Indeje * +254 (0) 711 385 945 | +254 (0) 734 024 856
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 at 11:42, Mwendwa Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Not a blow to Telkom Kenya at all, but a blow for the underserved. Loon was a 4G/LTE coverage infrastructure provider using floating cell towers for hard to reach areas. Telkom would lease the infrastructure the same way you can lease masts from other infrastructure providers.
Since it is a floating tower for underserved areas, the business case becomes difficult to justify because there is no critical mass in those areas to cover the value chain. And that is why subsidies are important in ensuring the marginalized still enjoy some semblance of internet access like the more privileged citizens in more urban areas. ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya https://www.linkedin.com/in/mwendwa-kivuva
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 at 10:22, David Indeje via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Alphabet’s Internet Loon Project is Shutting Down, Blow to Telkom Kenya.
**Loon launched a pilot project in Kenya in 2020
1. https://medium.com/loon-for-all/loon-draft-c3fcebc11f3f
*Kind Regards,*
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Listers, The issue of undeserved and marginalized areas are well articulated in policy and law which lead to the USF. If there are any issues, they can only be regarding implementation and priority. There is no place in Kenya which cannot be connected with the latest technology if it is considered a priority. Cost is not even an issue when compared with alternative ways of opening up such areas. John Kariuki. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 7:01, Twahir Hussein Kassim via kictanet<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kariuki_jn%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
John Boils down to priorities and execution. *Ali Hussein* Digital Transformation Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 9:30 PM John Kariuki via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers, The issue of undeserved and marginalized areas are well articulated in policy and law which lead to the USF. If there are any issues, they can only be regarding implementation and priority. There is no place in Kenya which cannot be connected with the latest technology if it is considered a priority. Cost is not even an issue when compared with alternative ways of opening up such areas.
John Kariuki.
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