September 2013 - KICTANet

Re: [kictanet] Have we failed the nation yet again?
by Ngigi Waithaka 23 Sep '13

23 Sep '13

Sorry, I cut short my earlier post but the ending should have read... ...I had high hopes that maybe with the new government and centralizing of ICT under ICT Authority this might actually be a reality soon, but events of recent past paint a different picture that the only constant in the new regime is the old-corruption networks! And what has this corruption cost as previously: (i)CID Crime Lab. This one was put in abeyance for so long, I last read that the Cyber Crime Unit has been disbanded) (ii)Police Communications Networks (This one is in contention after CS Kimemia stopped it writing thats its overbloated with 'cuts') (iii)National Intelligence DB (Turf wars can't let it take off) (iv)Immigration 2nd Generation ID cards (Endless drama, more than 3 tenders floated, highest bidder to old-boys club not identified yet) (v)2nd Generation Passports, Dead On Arrival (vi)50 years after independence we still write OBs by hand. Just how much intelligence escapes before being mined is mind boggling If you think about it, if all the above are not currently working or rendered inoperable, can we actually stop the next Westgate style attack? Waithaka Ngigi A1.iO On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi(a)at.co.ke> wrote: > The tragedy of Westgate is the tragedy of our society. And the tragedy of > our society is CORRUPTION! > > The fact that anyone with a few thousand bob can get a new ID if they > wanted in a day, double the amount and a passport is a possibility, double > the amount and you can probably live here for life, double that amount and > you could possibly be a genocidire and yet have a meaningful existence in > this country. > > Yes, it's not possible to stop every single attack targeted at us, but, > the tragedy of corruption is that we'll never know whether this is one > attack we could have stopped from happening. > > What can we do as ICT? Forget technology for a moment, that's the obvious > answer! The more profound answer is, to stop corruption in ICT, which > unfortunately has been one sector with possibly the highest levels of > corruption in government (Its only in ICT where to procure goods & services > worth a Billion shillings you would need a lot more than a god father) > > This could set an example to other bodies that we can actually do the > right thing, as opposed to that which benefits but a few. > > Waithaka Ngigi > A1.iO > > I had high hopes that maybe with the new government and centralizing of > ICT under ICTAuthority this might actually be a reality > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 5:06 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk>wrote: > >> @Daktari, >> >> It is a little difficult to respond when you pull out the patriotism card >> but that has never been reason enough to keep me quiet. >> >> I will first digress, if there was a viral epidemic that killed within a >> few hours of infection would your advice be for us to wait it out or while >> curative measures where going on would you also have preventive measures >> being carried out simultaneously? >> >> The KDF are carrying out the curative activity we should be working at >> preventive measures and having askaris ask people to leave their ID cards >> at the reception as they enter buildings such as at TelePosta Building does >> not count. >> >> What I want to prevent is the return to lethargy, that we are so famous >> for, which will creep in soon after the dust settles, what I am doing is >> throwing stones in the dark to ascertain if there is anyone out there and >> it seems there is as I got you typing. I suspect your appearance has >> something to do with tinted windows on government vehicles do not worry I >> do not hold it against you it seemed like part of the JD. >> >> Like with the 30,000 spectators are a soccer much I do am an expert coach >> when it comes to criticizing those on the pitch, that does not make me less >> a supporter and in the same way a player on the pitch does not refuse to >> listen to the coach because he was not on the pitch, the days of payer >> coaches are long gone so do not refute my contributions because I am not in >> the center of the action. >> >> If certain resources had been spent on other activities other than >> android application developments, forcing youth who would rather have been >> welding wheel borrows to setup Pasha Centers or trying to convert coders >> into business plan writers maybe, and I stand corrected, a number would >> have gone into other fields such as security and surveillance. >> >> The marine cable brings us a lot of entertainment but it has worked >> against our search for local applications of broadband and its related >> applications, I am bitter that we keep bragging of being an ICT enabled >> society yet all we do is visit social media sites, make payments using >> mobile money and fete foreign developers who have setup base locally and >> perform little to no skills transfers. In terms of usage of technology is >> like a crutch we do not know how to leverage it, carrying a dual core >> smartphone does not make you tech savvy. >> >> We have failed the country yet again just as we have kept doing over the >> years. >> >> Regards >> >> "na jivunia kuwa mkenya" - I was in the forefront of the tribeKenya >> initiative , we gave 610,000 Kenyans the opportunity to respond to the >> tribe question as "Kenya" >> >> Robert Yawe >> KAY System Technologies Ltd >> Phoenix House, 6th Floor >> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 >> Kenya >> >> >> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Bitange Ndemo <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> >> *To:* robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> >> *Cc:* bitange(a)jambo.co.ke; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions < >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> *Sent:* Monday, 23 September 2013, 16:07 >> >> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Have we failed the nation yet again? >> >> Robert, >> There is absolutely nothing anybody will have done with ICTs after the >> terrorists stormed the Mall. All IT gadgets worked properly. CCTV >> footage is there and was aired on TV yesterday. The screening askaris had >> no chance since the assailants forced their way in. >> >> Perhaps what we need is more research to mount a camera on a fly (inzi) >> with night vision to fly carefully within the terrorist hideout and >> establish strategically on how to respond. Some flies could be loaded >> with sleeping gas to put assailants to sleep. Drones do scan the horizon >> giving military advance knowledge of the terrain. >> >> Right now we should spend a few minutes to praise our uniformed forces. >> They did a commendable job. In bitterness I am still proud to be Kenyan. >> >> >> Ndemo. >> >> >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > As we console all those who where affected by the happenings at the >> > Westgate Mall over the weekend do we remain blameless as an industry? >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > >> > >> > Robert Yawe >> > KAY System Technologies Ltd >> > Phoenix House, 6th Floor >> > P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 >> > Kenya >> > >> > >> > Tel: +254722511225, >> > +254202010696_______________________________________________ >> > kictanet mailing list >> > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> > >> > Unsubscribe or change your options at >> > >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke >> > >> > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >> > development. >> > >> > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >> bandwidth, >> > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, >> do >> > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> >> University of Nairobi >> Business School, Lower Kabete Campus >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngigiwaithaka%40gmail… >> >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > > -- > *Regards,* > > *Wait**haka Ngigi* > Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod > Building > T + 254 (0) 20 2333 471 |Office Mobile: +254 786 28 28 28 | M + 254 737 > 811 000 > www.at.co.ke > > >

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Re: [kictanet] Have we failed the nation yet again?
by Matunda Nyanchama 23 Sep '13

23 Sep '13

Friends First of all sincere condolences to that lost loved ones, friends and others in this tragedy. We remember them, and indeed all Kenyans, in prayers. Once the dust settles, as a country we need to do a complete assessment of our emergency preparedness and understand what it takes to (a) forestall/foil such schemes as materialized at Westgate Mall; (b) respond to such tragedies when they happen and (c) how we learn from such experiences (unpalatable as they are). The idea is to minimize loss & damage: of life, limb, material, time, etc. Emergency preparedness needs plenty of cross-agency cooperation (intelligence gathering, threat assessment, coordinated response plans, etc.), awareness and integrated training/exercises (call them testing) to test the efficacy of any plans. It would be interesting to see emergency plans (I am sure there is one pertaining to fire and evacuation) of the mall itself, when it was drawn up and how often it is tested; and indeed, how coordinated (with state security, health, fire, etc. agencies) the plan is. It would be interesting to see individual business continuity plans for the mall and the businesses therein and how well integrated these plans are Such emergency plans need a lot of information gathering (yes, including what most Americans protest perpetually about: govt "spying" on them), analysis and informed decisions on threat levels and associated weight of response. (BTW: most people prefer some loss of liberty if that can be for the common good, such as averting danger.) Food for thought. For now, though, let's grieve and resolve to act, resolutely. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama(a)aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; http://www.aganoconsulting.com/; Twitter: nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manage your ICT risks! We are the experts you need! The trusted partners you deserve! Call: +1-888-587-1150 (Canada) +254-20-267-0743 (Kenya) or info(a)aganoconsulting.com Licensed by Communications Commission of Kenya (CCK) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The best revenge is massive success" - Frank Sinatra----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you.

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Have we failed the nation yet again?
by Gideon 23 Sep '13

23 Sep '13

+1 Wambui Kamuiru, Have we failed the nation yet again?..... Good question!, but sometimes we dont have all the answers. As much as we would like to know the why and how, our wisdom as humans fails us. Its indeed time for reflection, empathy, sympathy and thoughtfulness. Its very easy to shift blame here and there but at such times we are limited to what our human capacity can afford us, but the God's mercies and grace is enough at all situations, even as we seek answers to questions that probably will never get answered. God bless Kenya. Regards Gideon Rop Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 09:34:52 +0300 > From: "Info" <info(a)amwik.org> > To: "' > Wambui Kamuiru'" < > phoikamuiru(a)gmail.com> > Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] > Have we failed the nation yet again? > Message-ID: <006201ceb827$03efde10$0bcf9a30$@org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Yes we have failed the nation because we are all human beings and nothing > even that technology we pride in is perfect. Its only God who sees peoples? > hearts, whose wisdom is foolproof. > > 1 Corinthians 1:20: <http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/1.htm> Christ the > Wisdom and Power of God > ? <http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/1-19.htm> 19For it is written, "I > WILL DESTROY THE WISDOM OF THE WISE, AND THE CLEVERNESS OF THE CLEVER I > WILL SET ASIDE." <http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/1-20.htm> 20Where is > the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has > not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? < > http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/1-21.htm> 21For since in the wisdom of > God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was > well-pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those > who believe.? > > > > Dr. J. Wambui Thuo > > Executive Director, > > Association of Media Women in Kenya (AMWIK) > > Hse No. 6, Wendy Court, David Osieli Rd, > > Off. Westlands Ave., Westlands > > P.O Box 10327-00100 > > Tel + 254 020-4441226/0722-201958 > > Fax 254 020-4441227 > > <mailto:info@amwik.org> info(a)amwik.org > > Website <http://www.amwik.org/> www.amwik.org > > > > Our Vision: A just society in which the media embraces and promotes > equitable development, human rights and women rights. > > > > Our Mission: AMWIK seeks to use the media to promote an informed and > gender responsive society in Kenya and Africa. > > > > > > > > From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+info= > amwik.org(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Wambui Kamuiru > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 9:16 AM > To: info(a)amwik.org > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Have we failed the nation yet again? > > > > Yawe, > That is a loaded question that may elicit varied responses. > 1. Is the industry responsible for the gadgets used to scan people as they > enter Malls and such like places? > 2. What kind of technology is hence required to enhance the efficacy of > the metal detectors? I have heard that they only detect such things as car > keys...? > 3. Would a full body scanner such as those found in airports suffice? > 4. Can the industry pass legislation requiring all buildings have these > body scanners? > 5. In the Westgate case (condolences to all affected), what technology can > be used in the event that gunmen walk in shooting??? > > Food for thought > > On 23 Sep 2013 08:31, "robert yawe" <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > Hi, > > As we console all those who where affected by the happenings at the > Westgate Mall over the weekend do we remain blameless as an industry? > > Regards > > > > > > Robert Yawe > KAY System Technologies Ltd > Phoenix House, 6th Floor > P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 > Kenya > > > > Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/phoikamuiru%40gmail.c… > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > >

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Is everyone okay?
by Warigia Bowman 23 Sep '13

23 Sep '13

Just seeing if all kictanet members are okay in Westgate shooting, especially alice, who I know goes there often. Rigia

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Fw: Google Kenya DNS hijack
by John Kariuki 22 Sep '13

22 Sep '13

I have seen a message similar to the one below on www.standardmedia.co.ke article ID=2000081625.Is any lister aware of the problem. John Kariuki. ----- Forwarded Message ----- This is the message that some internet subscribers in Kenya are receiving while they tried to access the www.google.co.ke page. Some Pakistani leets (word used in the computer community for knowledgeable person or well versed in some computer hacks) claim to be behind this. This occurred today during the WestGate siege. I asked some people in Nairobi to confirm this. Some subscribers using cellphones could access it. I am not sure who is affected and who is not at the moment. Someone should take a look at this. -- Regards George Ng'ethe M.Sc. Computer Science ICT4D Research Centre University of Cape Town Rondebosch, Cape Town, South Africa

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National Broadband Strategy
by robert yawe 20 Sep '13

20 Sep '13

Hi, I recently went through the National Broad Band Strategy documents where it was indicated that we intend to achieve a connectivity speed of 40 mbps in urban areas in the next 5 years. This might seem like quite an achievement but starting today some of the Internet users inChattanooga, Tennessee in the USA will be experiencing 1 Gbps speeds to their homes, it seems either we are aiming very low or the strategy is a cut and paste from an era long gone which is a clear indication of what happens when you sit in a dark room and write a strategy but with no organised group to turn to for assistance what was the other choice? http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/09/17/how-chattanoog…! Regards About Chattanooga: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chattanooga,_Tennessee Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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Is KeNIC turning the corner?
by Ali Hussein 20 Sep '13

20 Sep '13

Listers Apologies for cross posting. As a former director at KeNIC I have been on record as one of its most ardent supporter and critic and I thought it is incumbent upon me to spare some time and talk about what I witnessed yesterday during its AGM. From the numbers presented it was evident that something positive is cooking in the .ke name space. 1. Ke registrations rose from 13k in 2011 to 26k in 2012. 2. Turnover jumped from kshs. 29 million to 34 million. 3. Profit from +1 million to 15 million. An interesting new item in the balance sheet appeared called Financial Assets. And this had about 33 million at the end of the year, 2012 with about 3.7 million in interest earned. This is as a result of prudent use of resources which may otherwise have languished in a checking account not earning any interest. Looking at the books it was obvious to me now that any surplus Cashflow goes into this pot as the Board and Management resolve how best to utilize these funds going forward. This is as it should be and it is Treasury Management 101. Good to see this prudence continue at KeNIC. The obvious question stakeholders now need to ask is how best to utilize these funds for the betterment of the .ke name space in particular and ICT evangelism in the country in general. Congratulations to the Management & Board of KeNIC for a job well done in 2012. The other issue I want to raise is the Elephant in the Room. Whereto KeNIC? What is the future of KeNIC and the .ke name space? There was a very healthy debate on this and the Board and Management assured all stakeholders that there would be transparency and total engagement with various stakeholders on this matter. For the listers who may not be privy to this issue we are referring to the ICT law that basically changes the status of KeNIC to being a licensed operator under the CCK. Without belaboring this point too much it raised issues of governance, the independence of KeNIC going forward, what ccTLD model best fits our situation and even whether KeNIC will exist in the near future. Suffice it to say that this is not an easy answer but I'm hopeful that as this debate goes on CCK and KeNIC will ensure full disclosure and engagement. This they have promised and we should take them at their word and continue to be vigilant. The other matter that was touched on by Barrack was the issue of inclusion and embracing Multi-stakeholderism without fear or favour. This KeNIC has done, though not so well. Room for improvement for sure and again the Board and Management assured us they will strive to improve. To this end I believe it is time to incorporate the Internet Society, Kenya Chapter into the Board of KeNIC. Kudos to the team at KeNIC for rising to the challenge. We assure them of continued engagement and vigilance to protect and improve the .ke name space. Regards Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "Kujikwaa si kuanguka, bali ni kwenda mbele" (To stumble is not to fall but a sign of going forward) - Swahili Proverb Sent from my iPad

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Africa IT Jobs Outsourced to China – Africa May Become Perpetually Dependent on China for Certain Skills
by Ali Hussein 20 Sep '13

20 Sep '13

Listers This is an interesting article and if there is any truth abut this then we are really in trouble. http://ictafrica.info/FullNews.php?id=10646 Can we learn from the Chinese? Most of their most celebrated companies 'learned & borrowed' from the West when they won big infrastructure and other contracts in China. This was a deliberate policy move orchestrated by the Chinese Government. When are we going to stop this vicious cycle of being consumer countries? When are we going to regain the glory days of the great African empires the likes of the Ancient Egyptian Empire and the Kingdom of Mali? Innovation and invention, contrary to popular belief isn't and wasn't the preserve of the West and the East. Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd +254 713 601113/ 0770 906375 "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb Sent from my iPad

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Samsung launches kiddy device
by robert yawe 19 Sep '13

19 Sep '13

Hi, With 4 months to go to the Class 1 laptop project it is clear that device manufacturers are on high gear now and it is becoming clearer every day that we have been left on the sidelines. This is the new Samsung device to be launched soon, most likely in Kenya, there is currently no quoted price but I can see it coming in at a sub $100 range. http://www.gizmag.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-3-kids/28908/?utm_source=Gizmag+Su… Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, Communication
by Ali Hussein 19 Sep '13

19 Sep '13

Waithaka My point exactly. A mix of both sometimes works wonders.. Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "Kujikwaa si kuanguka, bali ni kwenda mbele" (To stumble is not to fall but a sign of going forward) - Swahili Proverb Sent from my iPad On Sep 18, 2013, at 9:07 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi(a)at.co.ke> wrote: > Hussein, > > There is usually a corner reserved for soft-power and persuasion; where the person on the receiving end either makes an honest mistake or simply doesn't know or have the capability to understand how to achieve a certain task. > > Soft-power usually loses its 'power' where the other person is making a conscious decision, knowing very well the conscious decision is wrong and there is no big stick if they continue anyway e.g corruption > > So fighting corruption with soft-power, as an example is largely doomed to fail as we have been doing. > > As regards the organisations, just setting them by themselves is not enough. Indeed we do have many serious organizations already, but they rely too much on soft power. > > If you look at similar industries, such as Banking, they don't shy away from taking GoK, KRA etc to court, if they feel that certain practices are infringing on the rights of their members, such as these http://www.newtimes.co.rw/news/views/article_print.php?15293&a=64747&icon=P… > > We should use soft-power knowing very well that we do have a fall back position of taking the powers that be straight on if need be.\\ > > Waithaka Ngigi > A1.iO > > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> wrote: >> Robert and all >> >> I disagree. Sometimes it takes the 'soft' power of such informal groupings to make changes. Yes, we do require from a legal stand point registered Organizations make representation. However I contend that there is space for both. >> >> KICTANET has had some very loud successes in influencing policy and sometimes concrete action for positive change. Cases in point:- >> >> 1. The issue of KeNIC and the uncertainty it faces were first 'aired' here. The jury (or is it the Supreme Court?) is still out on how this will play out. There is an AGM tomorrow by the way... >> >> 2. The issue of Kenya's position in WCIT12 Dubai was extensively debated here and 'forced' the powers that be to take into consideration other stakeholders position besides that of the CCK. >> >> 3. One Robert Yawe's throwing his towel into the ring for Post Master General's position at Posta. Although unsuccessful :) made a major point on what ails Posta. >> >> The list goes on.. >> >> Ali Hussein >> >> +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 >> >> "Kujikwaa si kuanguka, bali ni kwenda mbele" (To stumble is not to fall but a sign of going forward) - Swahili Proverb >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:39 PM, "Gilda Odera" <godera(a)skyweb.co.ke> wrote: >> >>> Over to the lurkers – you have heard Robert. Be the change you want. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: robert yawe [mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk] >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 5:13 PM >>> To: Gilda Odera >>> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, Communication >>> >>> >>> >>> @Gilda, >>> >>> Just to reiterate what I said about a certain Presidential candidate, for democracy to be effective we must register as voters and then actually go out and vote. >>> >>> Sitting at home with a valid voters card cannot then be justification to have your opinion heard. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Robert Yawe >>> KAY System Technologies Ltd >>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor >>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 >>> Kenya >>> >>> >>> >>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Gilda Odera <godera(a)skyweb.co.ke> >>> To: 'robert yawe' <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> >>> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>> Sent: Wednesday, 18 September 2013, 16:59 >>> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, Communication >>> >>> >>> >>> @Robert- Trust you to speak the Queen’s English J and thank you for being candid as usual. Now that I get your comment, I partially agree. Yes, the formidable bodies should be consulted or be heard but let us hear comments/advise/opinions from all quarters. Democracy is necessary here Robert. After all, we are communicating on KICTANET as it is right now so it must have some standing J. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: robert yawe [mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk] >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:04 PM >>> To: Gilda Odera >>> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, Communication >>> >>> >>> >>> @Gilda, >>> >>> In english, KICTANET has no moral or legal standing to require it be consulted unlike CSK and KIF. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Robert Yawe >>> KAY System Technologies Ltd >>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor >>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 >>> Kenya >>> >>> >>> >>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Gilda Odera <godera(a)skyweb.co.ke> >>> To: 'robert yawe' <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> >>> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>> Sent: Wednesday, 18 September 2013, 9:34 >>> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, Communication >>> >>> >>> >>> @Robert- meaning? Please talk ‘transparently’ so we all understand what you are trying to say. Are you saying it is costly for the CS to engage CSK? He sent an email saying he is noting all comments on this list so let us give him credit for that. Or am I not understanding what you are saying here below? >>> >>> >>> >>> Gilda >>> >>> >>> >>> From: robert yawe [mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk] >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 8:22 AM >>> To: Gilda Odera >>> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, Communication >>> >>> >>> >>> @Gilda, >>> >>> The CS has consulted the industry players who are members of an organised and duly constituted organisation, it goes by the name of CSK or in short Computer Society of Kenya. >>> >>> >>> >>> As one Presidential Candidate found in a very costly manner that the number of friends you have on social media do not convert to valid electoral votes. >>> >>> >>> >>> It is time we all brushed our memory banks and realise that we have been down this road and past this kiosk many times before, unfortunately we have never stopped to have chai na bandika. >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> >>> PS. I am sure Dr. Siganga was consulted especially since Victor is a member of the society. >>> >>> >>> >>> "As I cry in the wilderness I pray to be heard" - An Village Madman in exile >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Robert Yawe >>> KAY System Technologies Ltd >>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor >>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 >>> Kenya >>> >>> >>> >>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Gilda Odera <godera(a)skyweb.co.ke> >>> To: robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk >>> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>> Sent: Tuesday, 17 September 2013, 11:55 >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, Communication >>> >>> >>> >>> Listers, >>> >>> I assume that the CS and other powers that be are reading these comments. I >>> wish to urge them, for the sake of this industry which we all know is key to >>> the development of this nation, to do what is right. The ICT Authority >>> requires goodwill of industry players and the best of the best to propel >>> this industry to great heights. This means having an open process of >>> selection where the most suitable candidate will emerge amongst others. Some >>> of those names being touted are indeed very capable but the CS would be >>> doing them injustice if he simply handpicked anyone. Let he/she who is >>> worthy of the job stand up and present himself/herself in a transparent >>> competitive process. I believe a full enlightened board consisting of >>> knowledgable and dedicated persons (not simply well connected ones please) >>> should be in place before the CEO is picked. And if it is a different panel >>> interviewing, it really must consist of persons well versed. We must break >>> away from past practices where a CEO of a parastatal has no respect nor time >>> for the board he/she reports to simply because of owing allegiance to an >>> individual who appointed him/her. This is what ails organizations and in the >>> end you find poor performance and a decline or collapse of an entire sector >>> simply due to in-fighting and insubordination. >>> I am keenly watching how this will transpire. I would like to believe the >>> new government is serious about developing this industry and will therefore >>> do the right thing. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Gilda Odera >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: kictanet >>> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+godera=skyweb.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf >>> Of Edwin Onchari >>> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 6:09 PM >>> To: godera(a)skyweb.co.ke >>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, >>> Communication >>> >>> + 1 >>> >>> >>> Edwin >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: kictanet >>> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On >>> Behalf Of kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 4:06 PM >>> To: Edwin >>> Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 76, Issue 27 >>> >>> Send kictanet mailing list submissions to >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than >>> "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Row simmers over order on new Information, Communication >>> and Technology leadership (Brian Munyao Longwe) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 16:03:10 +0300 >>> From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> >>> To: Kivuva <Kivuva(a)transworldafrica.com> >>> Cc: "kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke>, >>> "isoc(a)orion.my.co.ke" <isoc(a)orion.my.co.ke> >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, >>> Communication and Technology leadership >>> Message-ID: >>> <CAHSdPfbdD=XRe9qcoe73ikpyfAp8ZHj6vFtBZ7EVr6taPyjEbw(a)mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>> >>> Interesting to note that in this whole discussion no one seems to >>> mention/consider that ICTA is an amalgamation of KICT Board, Department of >>> e-Government and the Government Information Technology Services (GITS). If >>> continuity is the focus, aren't the heads of any of the other >>> agencies/departments also potential candidates? >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Mblayo >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva(a)transworldafrica.com> wrote: >>> >>> > Mr. Walubengo, in broad daylight you are advocating we do a kangaroo >>> > shortlisting, interview, and appointment. :) >>> > >>> > Why would anybody want to participate in the process with the end >>> > result already known? >>> > >>> > ______________________ >>> > Mwendwa Kivuva >>> > twitter.com/lordmwesh >>> > google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh >>> > >>> > >>> > On 6 September 2013 09:12, Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>> > >>> >> ------------------------------ >>> >> **Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> wrote, >>> >> >>> >> @John, that's just it...it's not illegal..it may be challenged in >>> >> court but it seems that the executive is acting within the confines of >>> the law. >>> >> ~~~~~~~ >>> >> The unilateral appointment would indeed be "legal" as it is enshrined >>> >> in the Legal notice. However, the clever lawyers would not be >>> >> challenging the appointment (since it would be legal), but they would >>> >> be challenging whether it is constitutional to "legalize" such an >>> >> action of appointing without inviting other Kenyans to >>> >> apply...(discrimination) >>> >> >>> >> Remember that the constitution is the supreme law and any other >>> >> law(Act, Legal Notice, Regulation, etc) that is contradictory to it >>> >> is null and void. Am not a lawyer but I think that is where the >>> >> court battle would be about. In the likely event that the courts find >>> >> that the legal notice is in violation of the constitution, then by >>> >> extension the appointment becomes null and void. >>> >> >>> >> Problem is that this would take time and meanwhile whoever is >>> >> appointed is likely to have his/her hands tied up and cannot transact >>> >> ICT Authority business. Thats why I said, why bother with the risks? >>> >> Just advertise the job, go through the motions and safely arrive at the >>> same destination. >>> >> >>> >> We did this successfully for our Cabinet Sec and PS, I still dont >>> >> understand why it should become difficult for a CEO :-) >>> >> >>> >> walu. >>> >> ------------------------------ >>> >> *From:* Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> >>> >> >>> >> *To:* jwalu(a)yahoo.com >>> >> *Cc:* "kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>> >> *Sent:* Friday, September 6, 2013 6:27 AM >>> >> >>> >> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, >>> >> Communication and Technology leadership >>> >> >>> >> @Kivuva >>> >> >>> >> You are quite right. >>> >> >>> >> @Walu, I believe the correct phrase is '*The end justifies the >>> >> means'. :) >>> >> * >>> >> >>> >> @John, that's just it...it's not illegal..it may be challenged in >>> >> court but it seems that the executive is acting within the confines of >>> the law. >>> >> >>> >> Ali Hussein >>> >> CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd >>> >> Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd >>> >> >>> >> +254 713 601113/ 0770 906375 >>> >> >>> >> "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb >>> >> >>> >> Sent from my iPad >>> >> >>> >> On Sep 5, 2013, at 10:49 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva(a)transworldafrica.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Because we know who is being targeted for this position, and we know >>> >> his attributes and leadership qualities, and we acknowledge this is >>> >> just a onetime appointment, why don't we discuss the merits and >>> >> de-merits of Dr. Victor Kyalo? >>> >> >>> >> I feel there is something members want to say but are being held back >>> >> by diplomacy. >>> >> >>> >> Lets remember as it has been stated here previously, anybody holding >>> >> this public office will still have to pass the test of LEADERSHIP and >>> >> INTEGRITY as envisioned in the constitution >>> >> >>> >> On 05/09/2013, Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Listers >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Sometimes expediency requires that there is continuity and >>> >> institutional >>> >> >>> >> memory carry over to allow for a smooth transition. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> In this particular case the Ag.CEO provides an excellent reason for this. >>> >> He >>> >> >>> >> has the expertise, experience, qualifications and the political >>> >> savvy ness >>> >> >>> >> to navigate this new monster called the ICTA. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> The CS may need to look at constituting a new board though. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> I say let the new team move with expediency and judge it by the results. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Regards >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Ali Hussein >>> >> >>> >> CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd >>> >> >>> >> Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> +254 713 601113/ 0770 906375 >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Sent from my iPad >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Sep 5, 2013, at 2:34 PM, "Judy M. Muli" <judym.muli(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Listers, >>> >> >>> >> What happened to the hookup, to discuss some of these issues and >>> >> forge a >>> >> >>> >> united front. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Judy >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Grace Githaiga >>> >> <ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com> >>> >> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Thanks Walu. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Great analysis. You are right about the need to avoid unnecessary >>> >> >>> >> litigation (read unnecessary negative publicity). Cofek already >>> >> posted >>> >> >>> >> the article on its site and you never know if it is considering >>> >> following >>> >> >>> >> up on the matter. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php/14-news/253-tired-talk-of-presidenti >>> >> al-executive-orders-and-unacceptable-plain-illegality-of-single-sourc >>> >> ed-ict-authority-boss >>> >> >>> >> . >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> I agree with you on the need to advertise this job and still get the >>> >> >>> >> "right man/woman" for it. The CS should not allow the matter to be >>> >> >>> >> determined by the courts. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> May I suggest that you consider this topic for your Nation Blog next >>> >> >>> >> week? This 2010 Constitution. Argh! >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Rgds >>> >> >>> >> GG >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 03:12:47 -0700 >>> >> >>> >> From: jwalu(a)yahoo.com >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, >>> >> >>> >> Communication and Technology leadership >>> >> >>> >> To: ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com >>> >> >>> >> CC: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> @GG >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> I see the comparison - and specifically the fact that the previous >>> >> CEO of >>> >> >>> >> the ICT Board was expected to be unilaterally selected by the Minister. >>> >> >>> >> However, that was then(2006/7). Fast-forward to today (2013) - with >>> >> the >>> >> >>> >> notable development of the new constitution (2010). >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> This thing (Constitution 2010) changed so much - even the President >>> >> today >>> >> >>> >> cannot do stuff his predecessors used to do over a game of golf/beer/etc. >>> >> >>> >> And so it would be the case for the Kenya ICT Authority - one cannot >>> >> just >>> >> >>> >> borrow a previous clause and paste it into a new, bigger and >>> >> different >>> >> >>> >> institution. ICT Authority (2013) is miles apart from ICT board >>> >> (2007) >>> >> >>> >> in form, nature, scope and mandate. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> For example, ICT Board(2007) was an institution with an >>> >> >>> >> "administratively" limited ministerial scope -that is why other >>> >> >>> >> Ministries could afford to ignore them. Today the ICT Authority is an >>> >> >>> >> animal with sweeping powers that cut across Ministries and govt agencies. >>> >> >>> >> The CEO appointment therefore requires and is indeed given a more >>> >> >>> >> rigorous approach in the legal notice. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> What raised the storm is why the need to exempt the 1st CEO from this >>> >> >>> >> rigorous approach? My unsolicited advise would be for the CS to >>> >> ignore >>> >> >>> >> the clause, advertise the job (open it up for everyone) - and still >>> >> get >>> >> >>> >> (his?) the right man/woman for the job. After all, he has or can >>> >> create >>> >> >>> >> the required "magnanimity" (opposite of Tyranny :-) of the numbers >>> >> in >>> >> >>> >> the Board. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> The other route is vulnerable to too much and unnecessary litigation >>> >> that >>> >> >>> >> may cripple the ICT Authority for years before it gets started. E.g >>> >> >>> >> Someone can file a suit to determine whether the contentious clause >>> >> goes >>> >> >>> >> against the constitutional provision for non-discrimination. While >>> >> the >>> >> >>> >> suit is being determined ICT Authority will remain >>> >> crippled/handicapped >>> >> >>> >> for years. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> walu. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> From: Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com> >>> >> >>> >> To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com >>> >> >>> >> Cc: "kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>> >> >>> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 2:41 PM >>> >> >>> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, >>> >> >>> >> Communication and Technology leadership >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> @ Walu, >>> >> >>> >> For comparison purposes, see legal notice legal Notice 26 of 2007 >>> >> >>> >> http://www.kenyalaw.org/klr/index.php?id=568 (STATE CORPORATION KENYA >>> >> >>> >> INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY BOARD 2007) >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> From: ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com >>> >> >>> >> To: robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk >>> >> >>> >> CC: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >> >>> >> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, >>> >> >>> >> Communication and Technology leadership >>> >> >>> >> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 09:13:46 +0000 >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Thanks Loise for sharing the legal notice. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> @ Yawe you are right. That is the nature of the notice. You do not >>> >> need >>> >> >>> >> to be subjected to public scrutiny:) (On a light note, it is a pity >>> >> since >>> >> >>> >> I would be interested to know your inside manenos). >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> @ Brian, Walu, and Alice >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> I have just skimmed through the notice and in matters of the ICT >>> >> >>> >> Authority appointments (both board and first CEO) it actually gives >>> >> the >>> >> >>> >> CS carte blanche. There may not be a row after all! Maybe some >>> >> mischief >>> >> >>> >> at the drafting process of the notice which ensured that it ignored >>> >> >>> >> article 10 of the constitution which lays emphasis on consulting in >>> >> >>> >> policy making processes. @ Kapiyo, @ Grace Bomu, what are your comments? >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Rgds >>> >> >>> >> GG >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 09:58:31 +0100 >>> >> >>> >> From: robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk >>> >> >>> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, >>> >> >>> >> Communication and Technology leadership >>> >> >>> >> To: ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com >>> >> >>> >> CC: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Hi, >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> There goes my opportunity to be appointed without having to jump >>> >> through >>> >> >>> >> hoops that require me to answer questions from my questionable past. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Regards >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Robert Yawe >>> >> >>> >> KAY System Technologies Ltd >>> >> >>> >> Phoenix House, 6th Floor >>> >> >>> >> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 >>> >> >>> >> Kenya >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> From: Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com> >>> >> >>> >> To: robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk >>> >> >>> >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>> >> >>> >> Sent: Monday, 2 September 2013, 15:02 >>> >> >>> >> Subject: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, >>> >> >>> >> Communication and Technology leadership >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> A row is simmering in the Ministry of Information, Communication and >>> >> >>> >> Technology over a law that gives the Cabinet secretary power to make >>> >> >>> >> unilateral appointment. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Executive Order No. 2 of 2013 by President Uhuru Kenyatta on the >>> >> >>> >> reorganisation of government that establishes the Information and >>> >> >>> >> Communications Technology Authority ( ICTA) gives the ICT Cabinet >>> >> >>> >> Secretary power to appoint the CEO of the authority without involving >>> >> the >>> >> >>> >> board. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000092541&story_title=row- >>> >> simmers-over-order-on-new-icta-leadership >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> >>> >> kictanet mailing list >>> >> >>> >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >> >>> >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40ya >>> >> hoo.co.uk >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >>> >> platform >>> >> >>> >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> >> >>> >> regulation. 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The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > -- > Regards, > > Waithaka Ngigi > Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod Building > T + 254 (0) 20 2333 471 |Office Mobile: +254 786 28 28 28 | M + 254 737 811 000 > www.at.co.ke > >

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