February 2013 - KICTANet

Commodity Exchange System - Revisited
by robert yawe 21 Feb '13

21 Feb '13

Hi Listers, About 9 month ago (human gestation period) I mentioned the need for developers to start looking into the development of a futures exchange system and as always is with the village madman I was dismissed. On Wednesday 8th June 2011 the Capital Markets Authority advertised for a futures exchange system, rfp is open to both international and local vendors. Regards Hi, The National Cereals and Produce Board together with the East African Grain Council are working towards the creation of a commodity exchange to trade futures. This process is at an advanced stage which begun with a process called warehouse receipting and currently Equity Bank offers credit against the receipts. What does this have to do with us in the IT field? When the Nairobi Stock Exchange tendered for the automated trading system (ATS) and more recently for the Broker Back-office System no local IT company made it past the 1st round. The fact that companies like Virtual City are winning international awards for systems development and others like PesaPal are receiving large direct foreign investments means that we do have the skills to develop world class solutions. This is an appeal to all ICT experts in the country to prepare ourselves to make sure that the grain exchange system is locally developed and we stop being spectators in our own country. I know it is said that a prophet is never recognised in his own town, it is time we made this phrase redundant. NCPB and others are already shopping overseas for a solution so be warned that time is not in our hands and if we are to have an impact we need to move quickly. The proposed system is supposed to provide a trading platform, depository system, GIS for land information, settlement system, warehouse management, weather monitoring and seed planting information system (acreage, seed type, fertiliser, etc). Lets get off our high horses and put a together a world class solution for a local problem. No tears after the horse has bolted. Useful links http://dn.nationmedia.com/DN/DN/2010/09/03/ArticleHtmls/03_09_2010_030_014.… http://allafrica.com/stories/200904271171.html http://www.ratin.net/mainfeature.asp?id=40 http://www.monitor.co.ug/Business/Smart%20Money/-/688614/899436/-/bypmdxz/-… http://www.unctad.info/upload/SUC/LusakaWorkshop/WarehouseServicesKenya.pdf Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40yahoo.co.…

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The Innovation Triad
by Brian Munyao Longwe 21 Feb '13

21 Feb '13

After my post earlier today where I questioned our approach towards innovation, research and development, I had a few phone calls with individuals who shared their reactions with me. I've expanded my thoughts into the blog post "The Innovation Triad, what Africa needs" http://lumaita.wordpress.com/2013/02/21/the-innovation-triad-what-africa-ne… I would appreciate your feedback. Brian

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Three Myths About Corruption...
by Michael Bullut 21 Feb '13

21 Feb '13

Greetings Listers, Please have a look at this *TEDTalk video<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq3TQoMjXTw> * I came across on YouTube vis-à-vis* *corruption and was wondering if we could draw parallels from Trinidad and Tobago's story. Warm regards, Michael Bullut. --- *Cell:* *+254 723 393 114. **Skype Name:* *Michael Bullut.* ***Twitter:** @Kipsang <http://twitter.com/Kipsang/> * *Blog: http://www.kipsang.com/* *E-mail:* *main(a)kipsang.com* * * *---*

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Fwd: [TIER] TV White Spaces. Was: Re: Economist: On tech and Africa
by Brian Munyao Longwe 21 Feb '13

21 Feb '13

I've been quite intrigued to see this discussion taking place. It started about technology in Africa and has now began to bring out the fact that many Western countries are pumping significant amounts of money and effort into research - with universities and private sector at the forefront. I have for a long time been a proponent of industry-academia linkages especially for purposes of ground-breaking research and development driven by recognition of local problems and challenges. What I find interesting in the thread below is how military application of technology is also a key driver of technology development in those regions (and I am sure that there is direct funding for this from military). With the levels of conflict and military engagements in our region (and accompanying huge expenses on foreign developed technology) wouldn't it make sense for us to develop academia-industry-military linkages? Just thinking, Brian ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Amanda Pratt <pratt.amanda.l(a)gmail.com> Date: Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 1:54 AM Subject: Re: [TIER] TV White Spaces. Was: Re: Economist: On tech and Africa To: Alexander Chemeris <alexander.chemeris(a)gmail.com> Cc: TIER <tier(a)tier.cs.berkeley.edu> Hello Everyone, This is mostly directed at Claro's comment: "There is plenty of opportunity for innovation. As software radios have matured, radio designers observe that software is optional, i.e. one would build a highly configurable radio that could do anything a software radio could do but based on dynamically configurable hardware modules, instead. Say a silicon design that implements an RF engine in the form of an ASIC. There are reasons to believe that such an ASIC would simplify the path toward both trusted spectrum agile and cognitive radios." These IC radios are what I do research on here at Berekeley. DARPA has put forth money for many organizations to work towards such a 'universal' or 'cognitive' radio. Together with Raytheon and Nokia, we at the BWRC are looking into the problem. There are a number of technical difficulties in this space, given the broad number of protocols and frequencies, but it is a hot area in integrated circuit design right now and solutions are likely to be commercialized in the next few years. Right now, the work is focused mostly on consumer applications (i.e. making your iPhone work both here and in Europe) and military applications. But, I personally am involved with the project because of its applications to the developing world. I would love to speak with any of you in the space regarding the opportunities and challenges for getting the last 3 billion on the WWW. Please reach out with any insights on the the market and demand for mobile, obstacles to adaption/demand satisfaction, areas for innovations, and other general implementation issues in both Africa and the rest of the developing/rural markets. Thanks! Amanda UC Berkeley Graduate Student Researcher apratt(a)eecs.berkeley.edu On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Alexander Chemeris <alexander.chemeris(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I agree with Steve. Working on OpenBTS I'm looking for time when we'll > see GSMWS and LTEWS. I.e. when one could install a GSM or an LTE base > station in any place where there is an available spectrum. At this > moment explosion of mobile networks is held by this single thing > called spectrum regulation, which prohibit you to deploy mobile > services until you pay a lot of money upfront. I hope that TVWS and > initiatives like the Netherlands' low-power unlicensed GSM will pave > the way to a wider shift in spectrum regulation. > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Steve Song <steve(a)villagetelco.org> wrote: >> I think it is worth considering too that TVWS is as much a regulatory >> innovation as a technological innovation. Secondary spectrum use through >> the use of a geo-location database and ultimately hopefully through spectrum >> sensing offers a real opportunity for regulators to by-pass the typically >> glacial process of spectrum re-allocation and re-farming. One need only >> look at the digital switch-over process in Africa to see how that is a >> reality. Not to mention the risk reduction associated with secondary use >> versus betting a big chunk of licensed spectrum. >> >> Cheers... Steve >> >> P.S. For interest, I attach a couple of charts on propagation from some >> BBC-funded research. >> >> >> On 15 February 2013 21:45, Ermanno Pietrosemoli <ermanno(a)ula.ve> wrote: >>> >>> The free space loss is 6 dB less at 450 MHz as compared to 900 MHz. >>> However, this is if you can clear the first Fresnel zone, which, as Yahel >>> pointed out, requires more antenna elevation at 450 MHz. >>> Besides, to obtain the same gain at 450 MHz the antenna should be twice as >>> big as at 900 MHz. So the real world advantage is kind of iffy with regards >>> to 900 MHz. But the latter frequency is not unlicensed in most of the world >>> (outside US and some Latin American Countries), sot the comparison that >>> matters is with respect to 2.4 GHz. >>> I agree with Yahel that for long distance point to point links 5 GHz is >>> more cost effective, but stick to my point for BTS coverage to both mobile >>> and fixed subscribers. >>> Regards, >>> Ermanno >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Kurtis Heimerl < kheimerl(a)cs.berkeley.edu> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Can you tell me how much better the propagation is for a 450mhz BTS vs a >>>> 900mhz BTS? >>>> >>>> On Friday, February 15, 2013, Ermanno Pietrosemoli wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Yahel and group, >>>>> >>>>> The lower frequencies have much better propagation characteristic. While >>>>> it is true that the Fresnel zone size increases with the square root of the >>>>> wavelength, the diffraction coverage also increases with wavelength, and the >>>>> absorption losses in walls and foliage are also less, that is why TV bad >>>>> devices are touted as NLOS. Of course, this might not be the case for very >>>>> long distance links, but it is very significant for a multipoint coverage of >>>>> a base statiion. >>>>> These frequencies have been used in commercial deployments in several >>>>> countries in what is known as CDMA 450 systems. The improved propagation >>>>> properties have indeed been proved, although the commercial succes has been >>>>> limited. >>>>> >>>>> Yahel is right that the antennas are considerably bigger, and have lower >>>>> gain at reasonable sizes, but there is a plethora of offers in this band. >>>>> Regards >>>>> Ermanno >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Shaddi Hasan <shaddi(a)berkeley.edu> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Great points Yahel. On the subscriber density issue, there's a lot of >>>>> demand for capacity at lower frequencies, primarily due to their ability to >>>>> penetrate foliage. I think 900MHz unlicensed equipment has 28MHz of >>>>> bandwidth available; I hear in practice this is about 10MB of capacity per >>>>> access point for modern equipment. TVWS would augment this existing >>>>> equipment very nicely, assuming it ever becomes available at cost-effective >>>>> prices. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Yahel Ben-David <yahel(a)airjaldi.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> TVWS might not be the panacea for rural broadband as commonly >>>>> believed... >>>>> At least not for fixed-wireless (stationary roof-top antennas to replace >>>>> non-existent DSL solutions). >>>>> >>>>> Where it comes to long-distance links, we're doing just fine with >>>>> conventional WiFi: >>>>> >>>>> 1. We have enough bandwidth even if all links are 40Mhz-wide, since >>>>> these are highly directional links that do not interfere with each other, >>>>> and ahh... rural typically means sparse - so bandwidth scarcity is not a >>>>> problem... >>>>> >>>>> 2. We won't enjoy the "better" propagation qualities of the lower >>>>> frequencies - we already build high capacity links on 5Ghz for as long as we >>>>> can see... The only limitation is line-of-sight (LoS). In-fact, LoS is not >>>>> the accurate term here - the limiting factor is a clear Fresnel zone and >>>>> that's worse the longer the wave-length. To put simply, if to get a 70% >>>>> clear Fresnel zone for a link on 5.8Ghz between two buildings at 50 miles >>>>> distance you'll need tower heights of 25m (at both ends), that same link on >>>>> 700mhz would require tower heights of 72m. To be honest, you get more energy >>>>> through that 70% clearance on the 700Mhz than on the microwave link, but >>>>> only about 12% more - so in practice 12% less in the tower height for the >>>>> same link quality - that's 63 meter tower for the TVWS vs. 25 meter for >>>>> WiFi. >>>>> >>>>> * BTW, the above calculation ignores the curvature of the earth - the >>>>> real towers needed for such a link are much higher, since the "earth height" >>>>> in the middle of that link is about 127 meters - far higher than the towers >>>>> in the example. However, we assume the use of mountains or hills for such >>>>> links and hence the above example simply show how much taller hill is needed >>>>> for 700Mhz vs. 5.8Ghz. >>>>> >>>>> 3. The antennas are huge - if I'm to build such a link (between two >>>>> hills or from a high mountain to a far valley) I'll choose high-gain >>>>> antennas. Say about 30+ dBi or higher. On 5.8Ghz, that's a small low-cost >>>>> antenna that I could easily mount on balconies' railings by myself. For >>>>> 700Mhz - ohh well, most balconies won't hold the size and most railings >>>>> won't hold the weight, not to mention the truck and crane needed to haul and >>>>> lift the thing... And.. don't forget wind-load and maintenance...etc... >>>>> True - 700Mhz might not need as high gain as it propagates better, but only >>>>> about 12% better... >>>>> >>>>> 4. Costs and availability - I guess that's obvious... but some may argue >>>>> this would change with increase in demand... I doubt that - for the above >>>>> reasons, there won't be any demand for fixed-wireless gear on these bands... >>>>> Moreover, the whole manufacturing cost structure is against these bands, not >>>>> to mention operational complexities due to the regulatory domain. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So are TVWS good for nothing?! >>>>> >>>>> These bands are promising for rural mobile! >>>>> They may offer the increase in subscribers density per base-station that >>>>> may drive operators to serve the more rural areas, given them a less risky >>>>> chance to ROI than with current technologies, not to mention the reduced (or >>>>> none) license fees. >>>>> Given the super-low gain antennas that are used in mobile-phones, their >>>>> physical size increase for use of these bands would not be significant. >>>>> * Mobile phones must not use higher gain antennas - or else we'll have >>>>> to hold them straight or point them in the direction of the tower. >>>>> >>>>> So yes - TVWS are great, but might not do what many of us think they >>>>> will... >>>>> >>>>> BTW - TVWS are ill-suited for dense urban areas for their strong >>>>> propagation qualities - in the cities, we strive to contain >>>>> >>>>> Ermanno Pietrosemoli >>>>> >>>>> Presidente >>>>> Fundación Escuela Latinoamericana de Redes (EsLaRed) >>>>> www.EsLaRed.org.ve >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ermanno Pietrosemoli >>> Presidente >>> Fundación Escuela Latinoamericana de Redes (EsLaRed) >>> www.EsLaRed.org.ve >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TIER mailing list >>> Website: http://tier.cs.berkeley.edu >>> TIER(a)tier.cs.berkeley.edu >>> https://www.millennium.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tier >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Steve Song >> +1 902 529 0046 >> +27 83 482 2088 (SMS only) >> http://villagetelco.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TIER mailing list >> Website: http://tier.cs.berkeley.edu >> TIER(a)tier.cs.berkeley.edu >> https://www.millennium.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tier >> > > > > -- > Regards, > Alexander Chemeris. > CEO, Fairwaves LLC / ООО УмРадио > http://fairwaves.ru > > _______________________________________________ > TIER mailing list > Website: http://tier.cs.berkeley.edu > TIER(a)tier.cs.berkeley.edu > https://www.millennium.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tier _______________________________________________ TIER mailing list Website: http://tier.cs.berkeley.edu TIER(a)tier.cs.berkeley.edu https://www.millennium.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tier

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Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK
by Ken 20 Feb '13

20 Feb '13

Every Act prescribes a commencement date before which the Act cannot be operationalised. The CP Act under section 1 provides that the Minister must set a commencement date for the Act but in any event not later from 90 days from the date when the Act was published. This means that if the Minister does not set the date, then upon expiry of the 90 day period, the Act shall be automatically operationalised. Sent from Samsung Mobile -------- Original message -------- From: Mark Mwangi <mwangy(a)gmail.com> Date: To: kenkenyaworld(a)gmail.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK This is actually a hilarious exchange if you ask me. It is akin to what vint cerf was talking about a few months ago about freedom to information vs access to internet. Tying rights and procedures to particular technologies will see you rewrite your laws every few years. I am also curious Mutoro as to the legal and operational consideration behind requiring a physical printing of a new law. Are there ministries that do not have computers and internet? On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 12:36 PM, <eonchari(a)lynxbits.com> wrote: Infact, that is the very same reason (land commission) I had possed the question. It beats common sense to just leave it to the discretion of the executive as they are inclined to abuse it - as has the president on the land commission issue. Is this leeway not time bound? Can the president legally ignore this for as long as he feels like it? Edwin ----- Original Message ----- From: kkairo(a)gmail.com To: eonchari(a)lynxbits.com Cc: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: 2/20/13 4:17 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Edwin, As per Cap 2 s.19 19. Where any written law, or part of a written law, came or comes into operation on a particular day, it shall be deemed to have come or shall come into operation immediately on the expiration of the day next preceding such day. In my opinion this means that the law is in effect from the date the president/minister gazettes it will commence. However your question is about the act becoming operational and in my view this is within the discretion of the executive as we have seen with the delay in gazetting the national lands commission. Regards, Harry Karanja Sent from my iPad On Feb 20, 2013, at 11:45 AM, eonchari(a)lynxbits.com wrote: Harry, Thank you for sharing this. I have a nagging question- is it a requirement (by law) that each act must be printed/gazetted (physically) for that act to be operational? Regards, Edwin ----- Original Message ----- From: kkairo(a)gmail.com To: eonchari(a)lynxbits.com Cc: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: 2/20/13 3:34 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Edwin, Fortunately the National Council for Law Reporting usually publishes acts of parliament, subsidiary legislation and the Kenya Gazette on their website www.KenyaLaw.org promptly after publication.. Regards, Harry Karanja Sent from my iPad On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:07 AM, eonchari(a)lynxbits.com wrote: Would it not make more sense to have the printer publish these Gazette Notices on their website in PDF version, etc? How many people do actually buy these gazettes? What is the ROI on printing such humongous documents? How many of them lie gathering dust at their stores? This agency needs to clean up its act and catch up with the rest of the world in the 21st Century. Edwin ----- Original Message ----- From: ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.uk To: eonchari(a)lynxbits.com Cc: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: 2/19/13 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Let me also thank Kerubo for the effort. However,it seems bad public policy to sell such 75 page document for 420/= ,that is Kshs.5/60 per page.It is therefore cheaper to xerox than to buy. Since all costs of printing by the Govt. printer are paid by the public(cost of machines,salaries etc), it would seem that cost recovery(not profit) should be the guiding principle. John Kariuki From: stephen Mutoro To: ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2013, 16:21 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Thanks Kerubo: I greatly appreciate that you have been first to scan and circulate the copy.. You have my 21-gun civilian salute! As listers will see on the stamp, it was actually received today. They were printed last night. Were it not for our action, it could still be unavailable. I am also hoping that listers will take time to look at the many areas which deal ICT and even consumer (not necessarily Cofek) representation on regulatory bodies. Debate should therefore move away from personal tirades against Cofek and the character of my person. It should be about issues. My last appeal, lets read before we comment. May also circulate it to your colleagues and personal networks. Consumer protection is real. It is time Kenyans looked at it differently. Some of us are preapred to pay whatever price to confront hurdle against enhanced consumer protection. Look around you - from your technology gadgets, clothes, food, window-blinds, wrist-watch to many other issues - I will be surprised if you are unconsciously less than 90% "carrier" of counterfeits and/or sub-standard goods. Lets toss to the first ever one-stop consumer legislation in Kenya and third on the Continent! Regards, Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke From: Kerubo Ombati To: smutoro(a)yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Dear All, A copy of the Consumer Protection Act is attached. Regards, Kerubo On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo(a)gmail.com> wrote: @James, You have some beef to pick up with Mutoro, right? Otherwise I don't see the sense in your question, given that Mutoro already explained why it was important to have this Act printed. On 19 February 2013 14:26, James Mbugua <jgmbugua(a)gmail.com> wrote: Now that it has been printed and copies are lying at the printer's office, what was the hullabaloo all about? Can we pick meaningful battles not activism for activism sake. On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hello Stephen, I request COFEK to scan their copy and share the electronic version with us. You see, as middle class, we are used to doing things from the comfort of "behind our keyboards". On 19 February 2013 13:20, stephen Mutoro <smutoro(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Hi Brian: Just an update - that our peaceful demonstration slated for February 21 against Government Printer Mr Andrew Rukaria has been called off - after his office worked overnight to publish the Consumer Protection Act, 2012. A copy is available now at the Haile Selassie Avenue Bookshop for Sh420 per copy. I am encouraging all of you to take a look - to understand what the Kenyan law, and not necessarily Cofek, sees consumer protection.Thanks for those of you who had supported our action. Kind regards, Stephen Mutoro www...cofek.co.ke From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> To: smutoro(a)yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Opps, forgot to include link to the article I refer to: http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1360%3A… On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> wrote: I'm sorry but I must bring this up here as there was a recent discussion involving COFEK. Today I saw COFEK on social media calling consumers to join them in a protest outside Govt printerr office. I followed the link indicated in their post to find out what the fuss was about and found this: The Consumers Federation of Kenya (Cofek) is concerned at the poor performance by the office of the Government Printer headed by Mr Andrew Rukaria (pictured)... Since assent of the Consumer Protection Act on December 13, 2012 the Government Printer's office has been giving endless excuses from backlog to lack of films and other materials. Meanwhile the Act remains unpublished and it cannot be operationalized as a result. Our numerous calls and letters have only yielded in unfulfilled and indefinite pledges of printing the same. Mr Rukaria has also taken to avoiding our calls. From the foregoing, we hereby demand for his voluntary resignation within seven days. Failure to do so, Cofek will simultaneously seek for judicial intervention. Cofek, will after this ultimatum, mobilize consumers to physically eject him from his office for his consistently poor and unacceptable performance. What I don't understand is: Since when was it that an Act cannot be operationalized simply because it hasn't been printed by Govt printers? Isn't there an electronic version of this Act that can be used/referred to in case of legal issues/action? Is there anything stopping COFEK from printing their own copies of the Act? (If they need it so badly) Please enlighten me? Mblayo _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/smutoro%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngethe.kariuki2007%40… The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kkairo%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/mwangy%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Regards, Mark Mwangi markmwangi.me.ke

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Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK
by eonchari＠lynxbits.com 20 Feb '13

20 Feb '13

Infact, that is the very same reason (land commission) I had possed the question. It beats common sense to just leave it to the discretion of the executive as they are inclined to abuse it - as has the president on the land commission issue. Is this leeway not time bound? Can the president legally ignore this for as long as he feels like it? Edwin ----- Original Message ----- From: kkairo(a)gmail.comTo: eonchari(a)lynxbits.com Cc: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: 2/20/13 4:17 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Edwin, As per Cap 2 s.19 19. Where any written law, or part of a written law, came or comes into operation on a particular day, it shall be deemed to have come or shall come into operation immediately on the expiration of the day next preceding such day. In my opinion this means that the law is in effect from the date the president/minister gazettes it will commence. However your question is about the act becoming operational and in my view this is within the discretion of the executive as we have seen with the delay in gazetting the national lands commission. Regards, Harry Karanja Sent from my iPad On Feb 20, 2013, at 11:45 AM, eonchari(a)lynxbits.com wrote: Harry, Thank you for sharing this. I have a nagging question- is it a requirement (by law) that each act must be printed/gazetted (physically) for that act to be operational? Regards, Edwin ----- Original Message ----- From: kkairo(a)gmail.comTo: eonchari(a)lynxbits.com Cc: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: 2/20/13 3:34 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Edwin, Fortunately the National Council for Law Reporting usually publishes acts of parliament, subsidiary legislation and the Kenya Gazette on their website www.KenyaLaw.org promptly after publication.. Regards, Harry Karanja Sent from my iPad On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:07 AM, eonchari(a)lynxbits.com wrote: Would it not make more sense to have the printer publish these Gazette Notices on their website in PDF version, etc? How many people do actually buy these gazettes? What is the ROI on printing such humongous documents? How many of them lie gathering dust at their stores? This agency needs to clean up its act and catch up with the rest of the world in the 21st Century. Edwin ----- Original Message ----- From: ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.ukTo: eonchari(a)lynxbits.com Cc: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: 2/19/13 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Let me also thank Kerubo for the effort. However,it seems bad public policy to sell such 75 page document for 420/= ,that is Kshs.5/60 per page.It is therefore cheaper to xerox than to buy. Since all costs of printing by the Govt. printer are paid by the public(cost of machines,salaries etc), it would seem that cost recovery(not profit) should be the guiding principle. John Kariuki From: stephen Mutoro To: ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2013, 16:21 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Thanks Kerubo: I greatly appreciate that you have been first to scan and circulate the copy.. You have my 21-gun civilian salute! As listers will see on the stamp, it was actually received today. They were printed last night. Were it not for our action, it could still be unavailable. I am also hoping that listers will take time to look at the many areas which deal ICT and even consumer (not necessarily Cofek) representation on regulatory bodies. Debate should therefore move away from personal tirades against Cofek and the character of my person. It should be about issues. My last appeal, lets read before we comment. May also circulate it to your colleagues and personal networks. Consumer protection is real. It is time Kenyans looked at it differently. Some of us are preapred to pay whatever price to confront hurdle against enhanced consumer protection. Look around you - from your technology gadgets, clothes, food, window-blinds, wrist-watch to many other issues - I will be surprised if you are unconsciously less than 90% "carrier" of counterfeits and/or sub-standard goods. Lets toss to the first ever one-stop consumer legislation in Kenya and third on the Continent! Regards, Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke From: Kerubo Ombati To: smutoro(a)yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Dear All, A copy of the Consumer Protection Act is attached. Regards, Kerubo On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo(a)gmail.com> wrote: @James, You have some beef to pick up with Mutoro, right? Otherwise I don't see the sense in your question, given that Mutoro already explained why it was important to have this Act printed. On 19 February 2013 14:26, James Mbugua <jgmbugua(a)gmail.com> wrote: Now that it has been printed and copies are lying at the printer's office, what was the hullabaloo all about? Can we pick meaningful battles not activism for activism sake. On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hello Stephen, I request COFEK to scan their copy and share the electronic version with us. You see, as middle class, we are used to doing things from the comfort of "behind our keyboards". On 19 February 2013 13:20, stephen Mutoro <smutoro(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Hi Brian: Just an update - that our peaceful demonstration slated for February 21 against Government Printer Mr Andrew Rukaria has been called off - after his office worked overnight to publish the Consumer Protection Act, 2012. A copy is available now at the Haile Selassie Avenue Bookshop for Sh420 per copy. I am encouraging all of you to take a look - to understand what the Kenyan law, and not necessarily Cofek, sees consumer protection.Thanks for those of you who had supported our action. Kind regards, Stephen Mutoro www...cofek.co.ke From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> To: smutoro(a)yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Opps, forgot to include link to the article I refer to: http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1360%3A… On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> wrote: I'm sorry but I must bring this up here as there was a recent discussion involving COFEK. Today I saw COFEK on social media calling consumers to join them in a protest outside Govt printerr office. I followed the link indicated in their post to find out what the fuss was about and found this: The Consumers Federation of Kenya (Cofek) is concerned at the poor performance by the office of the Government Printer headed by Mr Andrew Rukaria (pictured)... Since assent of the Consumer Protection Act on December 13, 2012 the Government Printer's office has been giving endless excuses from backlog to lack of films and other materials. Meanwhile the Act remains unpublished and it cannot be operationalized as a result. Our numerous calls and letters have only yielded in unfulfilled and indefinite pledges of printing the same. Mr Rukaria has also taken to avoiding our calls. From the foregoing, we hereby demand for his voluntary resignation within seven days. Failure to do so, Cofek will simultaneously seek for judicial intervention.Cofek, will after this ultimatum, mobilize consumers to physically eject him from his office for his consistently poor and unacceptable performance. What I don't understand is: Since when was it that an Act cannot be operationalized simply because it hasn't been printed by Govt printers? Isn't there an electronic version of this Act that can be used/referred to in case of legal issues/action?Is there anything stopping COFEK from printing their own copies of the Act? (If they need it so badly) Please enlighten me?Mblayo _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/smutoro%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/odhiambo%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jgmbugua%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kaykerubo%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/smutoro%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngethe.kariuki2007%40… The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kkairo%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

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As we peddle sheng . . .
by robert yawe 20 Feb '13

20 Feb '13

. . . the world searches for a new universal currency http://www.gizmag.com/bitcoin-creation-value-overview/26325/?utm_source=Giz… Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK
by eonchari＠lynxbits.com 20 Feb '13

20 Feb '13

Harry, Thank you for sharing this. I have a nagging question- is it a requirement (by law) that each act must be printed/gazetted (physically) for that act to be operational? Regards, Edwin ----- Original Message ----- From: kkairo(a)gmail.comTo: eonchari(a)lynxbits.com Cc: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: 2/20/13 3:34 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Edwin, Fortunately the National Council for Law Reporting usually publishes acts of parliament, subsidiary legislation and the Kenya Gazette on their website www.KenyaLaw.org promptly after publication.. Regards, Harry Karanja Sent from my iPad On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:07 AM, eonchari(a)lynxbits.com wrote: Would it not make more sense to have the printer publish these Gazette Notices on their website in PDF version, etc? How many people do actually buy these gazettes? What is the ROI on printing such humongous documents? How many of them lie gathering dust at their stores? This agency needs to clean up its act and catch up with the rest of the world in the 21st Century. Edwin ----- Original Message ----- From: ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.ukTo: eonchari(a)lynxbits.com Cc: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: 2/19/13 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Let me also thank Kerubo for the effort. However,it seems bad public policy to sell such 75 page document for 420/= ,that is Kshs.5/60 per page.It is therefore cheaper to xerox than to buy. Since all costs of printing by the Govt. printer are paid by the public(cost of machines,salaries etc), it would seem that cost recovery(not profit) should be the guiding principle. John Kariuki From: stephen Mutoro To: ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2013, 16:21 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Thanks Kerubo: I greatly appreciate that you have been first to scan and circulate the copy.. You have my 21-gun civilian salute! As listers will see on the stamp, it was actually received today. They were printed last night. Were it not for our action, it could still be unavailable. I am also hoping that listers will take time to look at the many areas which deal ICT and even consumer (not necessarily Cofek) representation on regulatory bodies. Debate should therefore move away from personal tirades against Cofek and the character of my person. It should be about issues. My last appeal, lets read before we comment. May also circulate it to your colleagues and personal networks. Consumer protection is real. It is time Kenyans looked at it differently. Some of us are preapred to pay whatever price to confront hurdle against enhanced consumer protection. Look around you - from your technology gadgets, clothes, food, window-blinds, wrist-watch to many other issues - I will be surprised if you are unconsciously less than 90% "carrier" of counterfeits and/or sub-standard goods. Lets toss to the first ever one-stop consumer legislation in Kenya and third on the Continent! Regards, Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke From: Kerubo Ombati To: smutoro(a)yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Dear All, A copy of the Consumer Protection Act is attached. Regards, Kerubo On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo(a)gmail.com> wrote: @James, You have some beef to pick up with Mutoro, right? Otherwise I don't see the sense in your question, given that Mutoro already explained why it was important to have this Act printed. On 19 February 2013 14:26, James Mbugua <jgmbugua(a)gmail.com> wrote: Now that it has been printed and copies are lying at the printer's office, what was the hullabaloo all about? Can we pick meaningful battles not activism for activism sake. On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hello Stephen, I request COFEK to scan their copy and share the electronic version with us. You see, as middle class, we are used to doing things from the comfort of "behind our keyboards". On 19 February 2013 13:20, stephen Mutoro <smutoro(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Hi Brian: Just an update - that our peaceful demonstration slated for February 21 against Government Printer Mr Andrew Rukaria has been called off - after his office worked overnight to publish the Consumer Protection Act, 2012. A copy is available now at the Haile Selassie Avenue Bookshop for Sh420 per copy. I am encouraging all of you to take a look - to understand what the Kenyan law, and not necessarily Cofek, sees consumer protection.Thanks for those of you who had supported our action. Kind regards, Stephen Mutoro www..cofek.co.ke From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> To: smutoro(a)yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Opps, forgot to include link to the article I refer to: http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1360%3A… On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> wrote: I'm sorry but I must bring this up here as there was a recent discussion involving COFEK. Today I saw COFEK on social media calling consumers to join them in a protest outside Govt printerr office. I followed the link indicated in their post to find out what the fuss was about and found this: The Consumers Federation of Kenya (Cofek) is concerned at the poor performance by the office of the Government Printer headed by Mr Andrew Rukaria (pictured).. Since assent of the Consumer Protection Act on December 13, 2012 the Government Printer's office has been giving endless excuses from backlog to lack of films and other materials. Meanwhile the Act remains unpublished and it cannot be operationalized as a result. Our numerous calls and letters have only yielded in unfulfilled and indefinite pledges of printing the same. Mr Rukaria has also taken to avoiding our calls. From the foregoing, we hereby demand for his voluntary resignation within seven days. Failure to do so, Cofek will simultaneously seek for judicial intervention.Cofek, will after this ultimatum, mobilize consumers to physically eject him from his office for his consistently poor and unacceptable performance. What I don't understand is: Since when was it that an Act cannot be operationalized simply because it hasn't been printed by Govt printers? Isn't there an electronic version of this Act that can be used/referred to in case of legal issues/action?Is there anything stopping COFEK from printing their own copies of the Act? (If they need it so badly) Please enlighten me?Mblayo _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/smutoro%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/odhiambo%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jgmbugua%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kaykerubo%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/smutoro%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngethe.kariuki2007%40… The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kkairo%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

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Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK
by eonchari＠lynxbits.com 20 Feb '13

20 Feb '13

Would it not make more sense to have the printer publish these Gazette Notices on their website in PDF version, etc? How many people do actually buy these gazettes? What is the ROI on printing such humongous documents? How many of them lie gathering dust at their stores? This agency needs to clean up its act and catch up with the rest of the world in the 21st Century. Edwin ----- Original Message ----- From: ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.ukTo: eonchari(a)lynxbits.com Cc: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: 2/19/13 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Let me also thank Kerubo for the effort. However,it seems bad public policy to sell such 75 page document for 420/= ,that is Kshs.5/60 per page.It is therefore cheaper to xerox than to buy. Since all costs of printing by the Govt. printer are paid by the public(cost of machines,salaries etc), it would seem that cost recovery(not profit) should be the guiding principle. John Kariuki From: stephen Mutoro To: ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2013, 16:21 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Thanks Kerubo: I greatly appreciate that you have been first to scan and circulate the copy. You have my 21-gun civilian salute! As listers will see on the stamp, it was actually received today. They were printed last night. Were it not for our action, it could still be unavailable. I am also hoping that listers will take time to look at the many areas which deal ICT and even consumer (not necessarily Cofek) representation on regulatory bodies. Debate should therefore move away from personal tirades against Cofek and the character of my person. It should be about issues. My last appeal, lets read before we comment. May also circulate it to your colleagues and personal networks. Consumer protection is real. It is time Kenyans looked at it differently. Some of us are preapred to pay whatever price to confront hurdle against enhanced consumer protection. Look around you - from your technology gadgets, clothes, food, window-blinds, wrist-watch to many other issues - I will be surprised if you are unconsciously less than 90% "carrier" of counterfeits and/or sub-standard goods. Lets toss to the first ever one-stop consumer legislation in Kenya and third on the Continent! Regards, Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke From: Kerubo Ombati To: smutoro(a)yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Dear All, A copy of the Consumer Protection Act is attached. Regards, Kerubo On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo(a)gmail.com> wrote: @James, You have some beef to pick up with Mutoro, right? Otherwise I don't see the sense in your question, given that Mutoro already explained why it was important to have this Act printed. On 19 February 2013 14:26, James Mbugua <jgmbugua(a)gmail.com> wrote: Now that it has been printed and copies are lying at the printer's office, what was the hullabaloo all about? Can we pick meaningful battles not activism for activism sake. On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hello Stephen, I request COFEK to scan their copy and share the electronic version with us. You see, as middle class, we are used to doing things from the comfort of "behind our keyboards". On 19 February 2013 13:20, stephen Mutoro <smutoro(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Hi Brian: Just an update - that our peaceful demonstration slated for February 21 against Government Printer Mr Andrew Rukaria has been called off - after his office worked overnight to publish the Consumer Protection Act, 2012. A copy is available now at the Haile Selassie Avenue Bookshop for Sh420 per copy. I am encouraging all of you to take a look - to understand what the Kenyan law, and not necessarily Cofek, sees consumer protection.Thanks for those of you who had supported our action. Kind regards, Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> To: smutoro(a)yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Opps, forgot to include link to the article I refer to: http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1360%3A… On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> wrote: I'm sorry but I must bring this up here as there was a recent discussion involving COFEK. Today I saw COFEK on social media calling consumers to join them in a protest outside Govt printerr office. I followed the link indicated in their post to find out what the fuss was about and found this: The Consumers Federation of Kenya (Cofek) is concerned at the poor performance by the office of the Government Printer headed by Mr Andrew Rukaria (pictured). Since assent of the Consumer Protection Act on December 13, 2012 the Government Printer's office has been giving endless excuses from backlog to lack of films and other materials. Meanwhile the Act remains unpublished and it cannot be operationalized as a result. Our numerous calls and letters have only yielded in unfulfilled and indefinite pledges of printing the same. Mr Rukaria has also taken to avoiding our calls. From the foregoing, we hereby demand for his voluntary resignation within seven days. Failure to do so, Cofek will simultaneously seek for judicial intervention.Cofek, will after this ultimatum, mobilize consumers to physically eject him from his office for his consistently poor and unacceptable performance. What I don't understand is: Since when was it that an Act cannot be operationalized simply because it hasn't been printed by Govt printers? Isn't there an electronic version of this Act that can be used/referred to in case of legal issues/action?Is there anything stopping COFEK from printing their own copies of the Act? (If they need it so badly) Please enlighten me?Mblayo _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/smutoro%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/odhiambo%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jgmbugua%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kaykerubo%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/smutoro%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngethe.kariuki2007%40… The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

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Please register for remote participation @ WSIS+10
by Gideon 20 Feb '13

20 Feb '13

Dear Listers, http://www.unesco-ci.org/cmscore/civicrm/event/info?id=14&reset=1 WSIS +10 review meeting: "Towards Knowledge Societies for Peace and Sustainable Development" <http://www.unesco-ci.org/cmscore/civicrm/event/info?id=14&snippet=2> Register Now<http://www.unesco-ci.org/cmscore/civicrm/event/register?id=14&reset=1> The World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS) set a common vision of societies in which information and knowledge play critical roles in enabling the development of countries, societies and individuals, including those marginalized and the most vulnerable. In 2015, the WSIS outcomes implementation will be reviewed by UN General Assembly in pursuance of the Resolution 60/252 and the paragraph 111 of the Tunis Agenda for the Information Society. UNESCO, in cooperation with ITU, UNCTAD and UNDP, is organizing the first WSIS +10 review meeting entitled "Towards Knowledge Societies for Peace and Sustainable Development". This meeting will assess the progress made, look at ongoing and future ICT trends and build a vision for new information/knowledge societies in the framework of the overall WSIS review process towards 2015. It is intended to bring together 600-800 physical and 1500 remote participants, including Ministers and high-level governmental officials, heads of IGOs, CEOs of the private sector and the civil society representatives. When 02/25/2013 10:00 through 02/27/2013 18:00 Location 7, place de Fontenoy Paris, 75007 France Report a map error<http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=48.850155,2.306264&z=12&t=m&hl=en-US&skstate…> Show large map<http://www.unesco-ci.org/cmscore/civicrm/contact/map/event?eid=14&reset=1> Contact Email: wsisteam(a)unesco.org Register Now<http://www.unesco-ci.org/cmscore/civicrm/event/register?id=14&reset=1> Gideon Rop, DotConnectAfrica

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