I realized the other day that the Kenya National Disaster Operations Center (known to us as @NDOCKenya on Twitter) doesn't have even a simple website up. If they didn't have a Twitter handle, no one would even know how to reach them or get any updates from them at all. On their Twitter profile they list the following: The Kenya National Disaster Operation Centre manages and coordinates disaster response at a national level. Email [email protected] Call +254-020-2212386 Nairobi, Kenya · nationaldisaster.go.ke Now, you'll note three things: The website doesn't work. There is absolutely nothing, it's just a dead page. The email address goes to NDOCKenya.org - but if you go there, you'll find it's just being hosted at GoDaddy with nothing to show. This raises a bunch of questions, but perhaps the foremost being: Why do they use this as their email address when they own a go.ke domain? A way to reach the NATIONAL Disaster Ops Centre is a pretty important thing to have. It's unforgivable that they can't even put up a one-page information website, much less have a site that allows people to know the official places to go, things to do/not do, during a national emergency. It's the simple things. -- Erik Hersman Ushahidi | iHub | BRCK @WhiteAfrican
Eric,Listers. The matter raised is urgent.The ICT Cabinet Secretary could probably take it as a matter of national importance. John Kariuki ________________________________ From: Erik Hersman <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, 26 September 2013, 9:23 Subject: [kictanet] It's the simple things, NDOCKenya I realized the other day that the Kenya National Disaster Operations Center (known to us as @NDOCKenya on Twitter) doesn't have even a simple website up. If they didn't have a Twitter handle, no one would even know how to reach them or get any updates from them at all. On their Twitter profile they list the following: The Kenya National Disaster Operation Centre manages and coordinates disaster response at a national level. Email [email protected] Call +254-020-2212386
Nairobi, Kenya · nationaldisaster.go.ke
Now, you'll note three things: 1. The website doesn't work. There is absolutely nothing, it's just a dead page. 2. The email address goes to NDOCKenya.org - but if you go there, you'll find it's just being hosted at GoDaddy with nothing to show. This raises a bunch of questions, but perhaps the foremost being: Why do they use this as their email address when they own a go.ke domain? 3. A way to reach the NATIONAL Disaster Ops Centre is a pretty important thing to have. It's unforgivable that they can't even put up a one-page information website, much less have a site that allows people to know the official places to go, things to do/not do, during a national emergency. It's the simple things. -- Erik Hersman Ushahidi | iHub | BRCK @WhiteAfrican _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list [email protected] https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngethe.kariuki2007%40y... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
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Call me crazy but I'd vote for an emergency number to reach the police, fire department, and ambulance system over a functioning website. I would have thought that at least the members of KICTanet would agree with that but based on the other thread, even a phone number seems too much and we should leverage 'community' when there's an emergency. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_telephone_number#Africa -- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:24 PM, John Kariuki < [email protected]> wrote:
Eric,Listers. The matter raised is urgent.The ICT Cabinet Secretary could probably take it as a matter of national importance.
John Kariuki
------------------------------ *From:* Erik Hersman <[email protected]> *To:* [email protected] *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <[email protected]> *Sent:* Thursday, 26 September 2013, 9:23 *Subject:* [kictanet] It's the simple things, NDOCKenya
I realized the other day that the Kenya National Disaster Operations Center (known to us as @NDOCKenya <https://twitter.com/ndockenya> on Twitter) doesn't have even a simple website up. If they didn't have a Twitter handle, no one would even know how to reach them or get any updates from them at all. On their Twitter profile they list the following:
*The Kenya National Disaster Operation Centre manages and coordinates disaster response at a national level. Email [email protected] Call +254-020-2212386*
* Nairobi, Kenya *
*· ** ** nationaldisaster.go.ke <http://t.co/9dWdiHpAbE>*
Now, you'll note three things:
1. The website doesn't work. There is absolutely nothing, it's just a dead page. 2. The email address goes to NDOCKenya.org <http://ndockenya.org/> - but if you go there, you'll find it's just being hosted at GoDaddy with nothing to show. This raises a bunch of questions, but perhaps the foremost being: Why do they use this as their email address when they own a go.ke domain? 3. A way to reach the *NATIONAL* Disaster Ops Centre is a pretty important thing to have. It's unforgivable that they can't even put up a one-page information website, much less have a site that allows people to know the official places to go, things to do/not do, during a national emergency.
It's the simple things.
-- Erik Hersman
Ushahidi <http://ushahidi.com/> | iHub <http://ihub.co.ke/> | BRCK<http://brck.com/> @WhiteAfrican <http://twitter.com/whiteafrican>
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999 used to be soo effective, but I think death of the telephone booth did it in. But recently I find that 999 to be stable. At least it works on my Safaricom line On 27/09/2013, Adam Nelson <[email protected]> wrote:
Call me crazy but I'd vote for an emergency number to reach the police, fire department, and ambulance system over a functioning website. I would have thought that at least the members of KICTanet would agree with that but based on the other thread, even a phone number seems too much and we should leverage 'community' when there's an emergency.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_telephone_number#Africa
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:24 PM, John Kariuki < [email protected]> wrote:
Eric,Listers. The matter raised is urgent.The ICT Cabinet Secretary could probably take it as a matter of national importance.
John Kariuki
------------------------------ *From:* Erik Hersman <[email protected]> *To:* [email protected] *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <[email protected]> *Sent:* Thursday, 26 September 2013, 9:23 *Subject:* [kictanet] It's the simple things, NDOCKenya
I realized the other day that the Kenya National Disaster Operations Center (known to us as @NDOCKenya <https://twitter.com/ndockenya> on Twitter) doesn't have even a simple website up. If they didn't have a Twitter handle, no one would even know how to reach them or get any updates from them at all. On their Twitter profile they list the following:
*The Kenya National Disaster Operation Centre manages and coordinates disaster response at a national level. Email [email protected] Call +254-020-2212386*
* Nairobi, Kenya *
*· ** ** nationaldisaster.go.ke <http://t.co/9dWdiHpAbE>*
Now, you'll note three things:
1. The website doesn't work. There is absolutely nothing, it's just a dead page. 2. The email address goes to NDOCKenya.org <http://ndockenya.org/> - but if you go there, you'll find it's just being hosted at GoDaddy with nothing to show. This raises a bunch of questions, but perhaps the foremost being: Why do they use this as their email address when they own a go.ke domain? 3. A way to reach the *NATIONAL* Disaster Ops Centre is a pretty important thing to have. It's unforgivable that they can't even put up a one-page information website, much less have a site that allows people to know the official places to go, things to do/not do, during a national emergency.
It's the simple things.
-- Erik Hersman
Ushahidi <http://ushahidi.com/> | iHub <http://ihub.co.ke/> | BRCK<http://brck.com/> @WhiteAfrican <http://twitter.com/whiteafrican>
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Wait. Are you saying that if I call 999 somebody will answer and that I can report emergencies to them??? Will they dispatch police and/or ambulances? Everybody I had talked to said that wasn't possible. -- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Kivuva <[email protected]> wrote:
999 used to be soo effective, but I think death of the telephone booth did it in.
But recently I find that 999 to be stable. At least it works on my Safaricom line
Call me crazy but I'd vote for an emergency number to reach the police, fire department, and ambulance system over a functioning website. I would have thought that at least the members of KICTanet would agree with that but based on the other thread, even a phone number seems too much and we should leverage 'community' when there's an emergency.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_telephone_number#Africa
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:24 PM, John Kariuki < [email protected]> wrote:
Eric,Listers. The matter raised is urgent.The ICT Cabinet Secretary could probably take it as a matter of national importance.
John Kariuki
------------------------------ *From:* Erik Hersman <[email protected]> *To:* [email protected] *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <[email protected]> *Sent:* Thursday, 26 September 2013, 9:23 *Subject:* [kictanet] It's the simple things, NDOCKenya
I realized the other day that the Kenya National Disaster Operations Center (known to us as @NDOCKenya <https://twitter.com/ndockenya> on Twitter) doesn't have even a simple website up. If they didn't have a Twitter handle, no one would even know how to reach them or get any updates from them at all. On their Twitter profile they list the following:
*The Kenya National Disaster Operation Centre manages and coordinates disaster response at a national level. Email [email protected] Call +254-020-2212386*
* Nairobi, Kenya *
*· ** ** nationaldisaster.go.ke <http://t.co/9dWdiHpAbE>*
Now, you'll note three things:
1. The website doesn't work. There is absolutely nothing, it's just a dead page. 2. The email address goes to NDOCKenya.org <http://ndockenya.org/> - but if you go there, you'll find it's just being hosted at GoDaddy with nothing to show. This raises a bunch of questions, but perhaps the foremost being: Why do they use this as their email address when they own a go.ke domain? 3. A way to reach the *NATIONAL* Disaster Ops Centre is a pretty important thing to have. It's unforgivable that they can't even put up a one-page information website, much less have a site that allows
On 27/09/2013, Adam Nelson <[email protected]> wrote: people
to know the official places to go, things to do/not do, during a national emergency.
It's the simple things.
-- Erik Hersman
Ushahidi <http://ushahidi.com/> | iHub <http://ihub.co.ke/> | BRCK<http://brck.com/> @WhiteAfrican <http://twitter.com/whiteafrican>
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Adam, that's one of the simple things too. Yes, it takes money and commitment to run a national 999 number, but that's what the NDOC is for. What I'm getting at is there are a lot of simple things that could be done, a lot of low hanging fruit that would make both communications and organization easier in an emergency. -- Erik Hersman Ushahidi | iHub | BRCK @WhiteAfrican US: 407.427.412 | Kenya: +254 729.157.257 | Skype: ezungu On Sep 27, 2013, at 9:54 AM, Adam Nelson <[email protected]> wrote:
Wait. Are you saying that if I call 999 somebody will answer and that I can report emergencies to them??? Will they dispatch police and/or ambulances?
Everybody I had talked to said that wasn't possible.
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Kivuva <[email protected]> wrote: 999 used to be soo effective, but I think death of the telephone booth did it in.
But recently I find that 999 to be stable. At least it works on my Safaricom line
On 27/09/2013, Adam Nelson <[email protected]> wrote:
Call me crazy but I'd vote for an emergency number to reach the police, fire department, and ambulance system over a functioning website. I would have thought that at least the members of KICTanet would agree with that but based on the other thread, even a phone number seems too much and we should leverage 'community' when there's an emergency.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_telephone_number#Africa
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:24 PM, John Kariuki < [email protected]> wrote:
Eric,Listers. The matter raised is urgent.The ICT Cabinet Secretary could probably take it as a matter of national importance.
John Kariuki
------------------------------ *From:* Erik Hersman <[email protected]> *To:* [email protected] *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <[email protected]> *Sent:* Thursday, 26 September 2013, 9:23 *Subject:* [kictanet] It's the simple things, NDOCKenya
I realized the other day that the Kenya National Disaster Operations Center (known to us as @NDOCKenya <https://twitter.com/ndockenya> on Twitter) doesn't have even a simple website up. If they didn't have a Twitter handle, no one would even know how to reach them or get any updates from them at all. On their Twitter profile they list the following:
*The Kenya National Disaster Operation Centre manages and coordinates disaster response at a national level. Email [email protected] Call +254-020-2212386*
* Nairobi, Kenya *
*· ** ** nationaldisaster.go.ke <http://t.co/9dWdiHpAbE>*
Now, you'll note three things:
1. The website doesn't work. There is absolutely nothing, it's just a dead page. 2. The email address goes to NDOCKenya.org <http://ndockenya.org/> - but if you go there, you'll find it's just being hosted at GoDaddy with nothing to show. This raises a bunch of questions, but perhaps the foremost being: Why do they use this as their email address when they own a go.ke domain? 3. A way to reach the *NATIONAL* Disaster Ops Centre is a pretty important thing to have. It's unforgivable that they can't even put up a one-page information website, much less have a site that allows people to know the official places to go, things to do/not do, during a national emergency.
It's the simple things.
-- Erik Hersman
Ushahidi <http://ushahidi.com/> | iHub <http://ihub.co.ke/> | BRCK<http://brck.com/> @WhiteAfrican <http://twitter.com/whiteafrican>
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Adam, I would not like to defend the NDOC, but once in a while, I see a fire rescue vehicle almost always followed by an ambulance when dispatched from the fire station. How the callers reach the respective rescue teams is without my imagination. ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh On 27 September 2013 10:01, Erik Hersman <[email protected]> wrote:
Adam, that's one of the simple things too. Yes, it takes money and commitment to run a national 999 number, but that's what the NDOC is for.
What I'm getting at is there are a lot of simple things that could be done, a lot of low hanging fruit that would make both communications and organization easier in an emergency.
-- Erik Hersman
Ushahidi <http://ushahidi.com/> | iHub <http://ihub.co.ke/> | BRCK<http://brck.com/> @WhiteAfrican <http://twitter.com/whiteafrican> US: 407.427.412 | Kenya: +254 729.157.257 | Skype: ezungu
On Sep 27, 2013, at 9:54 AM, Adam Nelson <[email protected]> wrote:
Wait. Are you saying that if I call 999 somebody will answer and that I can report emergencies to them??? Will they dispatch police and/or ambulances?
Everybody I had talked to said that wasn't possible.
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Kivuva <[email protected]>wrote:
999 used to be soo effective, but I think death of the telephone booth did it in.
But recently I find that 999 to be stable. At least it works on my Safaricom line
Call me crazy but I'd vote for an emergency number to reach the police, fire department, and ambulance system over a functioning website. I would have thought that at least the members of KICTanet would agree with that but based on the other thread, even a phone number seems too much and we should leverage 'community' when there's an emergency.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_telephone_number#Africa
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:24 PM, John Kariuki < [email protected]> wrote:
Eric,Listers. The matter raised is urgent.The ICT Cabinet Secretary could probably take it as a matter of national importance.
John Kariuki
------------------------------ *From:* Erik Hersman <[email protected]> *To:* [email protected] *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <[email protected]> *Sent:* Thursday, 26 September 2013, 9:23 *Subject:* [kictanet] It's the simple things, NDOCKenya
I realized the other day that the Kenya National Disaster Operations Center (known to us as @NDOCKenya <https://twitter.com/ndockenya> on Twitter) doesn't have even a simple website up. If they didn't have a Twitter handle, no one would even know how to reach them or get any updates from them at all. On their Twitter profile they list the following:
*The Kenya National Disaster Operation Centre manages and coordinates disaster response at a national level. Email [email protected] Call +254-020-2212386*
* Nairobi, Kenya *
*· ** ** nationaldisaster.go.ke <http://t.co/9dWdiHpAbE>*
Now, you'll note three things:
1. The website doesn't work. There is absolutely nothing, it's just a dead page. 2. The email address goes to NDOCKenya.org <http://ndockenya.org/>
but if you go there, you'll find it's just being hosted at GoDaddy with nothing to show. This raises a bunch of questions, but perhaps the foremost being: Why do they use this as their email address when
own a go.ke domain? 3. A way to reach the *NATIONAL* Disaster Ops Centre is a pretty important thing to have. It's unforgivable that they can't even
a one-page information website, much less have a site that allows
On 27/09/2013, Adam Nelson <[email protected]> wrote: - they put up people
to know the official places to go, things to do/not do, during a national emergency.
It's the simple things.
-- Erik Hersman
Ushahidi <http://ushahidi.com/> | iHub <http://ihub.co.ke/> | BRCK<http://brck.com/> @WhiteAfrican <http://twitter.com/whiteafrican>
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Erik and all, Blame it on public procurement laws. They sometimes cripple even the very creative officers. If you remember well, Dr. Ndemo spoke publicly on the need to review public procurement to ensure government officers who want to make things happen are facilitated by the legal framework. On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Erik Hersman <[email protected]> wrote:
Adam, that's one of the simple things too. Yes, it takes money and commitment to run a national 999 number, but that's what the NDOC is for.
What I'm getting at is there are a lot of simple things that could be done, a lot of low hanging fruit that would make both communications and organization easier in an emergency.
-- Erik Hersman
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On Sep 27, 2013, at 9:54 AM, Adam Nelson <[email protected]> wrote:
Wait. Are you saying that if I call 999 somebody will answer and that I can report emergencies to them??? Will they dispatch police and/or ambulances?
Everybody I had talked to said that wasn't possible.
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On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Kivuva <[email protected]>wrote:
999 used to be soo effective, but I think death of the telephone booth did it in.
But recently I find that 999 to be stable. At least it works on my Safaricom line
Call me crazy but I'd vote for an emergency number to reach the police, fire department, and ambulance system over a functioning website. I would have thought that at least the members of KICTanet would agree with that but based on the other thread, even a phone number seems too much and we should leverage 'community' when there's an emergency.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_telephone_number#Africa
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On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:24 PM, John Kariuki < [email protected]> wrote:
Eric,Listers. The matter raised is urgent.The ICT Cabinet Secretary could probably take it as a matter of national importance.
John Kariuki
------------------------------ *From:* Erik Hersman <[email protected]> *To:* [email protected] *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <[email protected]> *Sent:* Thursday, 26 September 2013, 9:23 *Subject:* [kictanet] It's the simple things, NDOCKenya
I realized the other day that the Kenya National Disaster Operations Center (known to us as @NDOCKenya <https://twitter.com/ndockenya> on Twitter) doesn't have even a simple website up. If they didn't have a Twitter handle, no one would even know how to reach them or get any updates from them at all. On their Twitter profile they list the following:
*The Kenya National Disaster Operation Centre manages and coordinates disaster response at a national level. Email [email protected] Call +254-020-2212386*
* Nairobi, Kenya *
*· ** ** nationaldisaster.go.ke <http://t.co/9dWdiHpAbE>*
Now, you'll note three things:
1. The website doesn't work. There is absolutely nothing, it's just a dead page. 2. The email address goes to NDOCKenya.org <http://ndockenya.org/>
but if you go there, you'll find it's just being hosted at GoDaddy with nothing to show. This raises a bunch of questions, but perhaps the foremost being: Why do they use this as their email address when
own a go.ke domain? 3. A way to reach the *NATIONAL* Disaster Ops Centre is a pretty important thing to have. It's unforgivable that they can't even
a one-page information website, much less have a site that allows
On 27/09/2013, Adam Nelson <[email protected]> wrote: - they put up people
to know the official places to go, things to do/not do, during a national emergency.
It's the simple things.
-- Erik Hersman
Ushahidi <http://ushahidi.com/> | iHub <http://ihub.co.ke/> | BRCK<http://brck.com/> @WhiteAfrican <http://twitter.com/whiteafrican>
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Eric,Adam Listers There is little doubt that the present public emergency telecommunication arrangement is unsatisfactory. Going forward if we wish to modernize, what is required is a single emergency number for emergencies,namely police,fire and ambulance. Thereafter the first responders from these can be mobilised. The actual routing of calls will depend on the overall design of the network and should not be an issue for callers. John Kariuki ________________________________ From: Erik Hersman <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, 27 September 2013, 10:01 Subject: Re: [kictanet] It's the simple things, NDOCKenya Adam, that's one of the simple things too. Yes, it takes money and commitment to run a national 999 number, but that's what the NDOC is for. What I'm getting at is there are a lot of simple things that could be done, a lot of low hanging fruit that would make both communications and organization easier in an emergency. -- Erik Hersman Ushahidi | iHub | BRCK @WhiteAfrican US: 407.427.412 | Kenya: +254 729.157.257 | Skype: ezungu On Sep 27, 2013, at 9:54 AM, Adam Nelson <[email protected]> wrote: Wait. Are you saying that if I call 999 somebody will answer and that I can report emergencies to them??? Will they dispatch police and/or ambulances?
Everybody I had talked to said that wasn't possible.
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On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Kivuva <[email protected]> wrote:
999 used to be soo effective, but I think death of the telephone booth
did it in.
But recently I find that 999 to be stable. At least it works on my Safaricom line
On 27/09/2013, Adam Nelson <[email protected]> wrote:
Call me crazy but I'd vote for an emergency number to reach the police, fire department, and ambulance system over a functioning website. I would have thought that at least the members of KICTanet would agree with that but based on the other thread, even a phone number seems too much and we should leverage 'community' when there's an emergency.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_telephone_number#Africa
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud>
About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:24 PM, John Kariuki < [email protected]> wrote:
Eric,Listers. The matter raised is urgent.The ICT Cabinet Secretary could probably take it as a matter of national importance.
John Kariuki
------------------------------ *From:* Erik Hersman <[email protected]> *To:* [email protected] *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <[email protected]> *Sent:* Thursday, 26 September 2013, 9:23 *Subject:* [kictanet] It's the simple things, NDOCKenya
I realized the other day that the Kenya National Disaster Operations Center (known to us as @NDOCKenya <https://twitter.com/ndockenya> on
Twitter) doesn't have even a simple website up. If they didn't have a Twitter handle, no one would even know how to reach them or get any updates from them at all. On their Twitter profile they list the following:
*The Kenya National Disaster Operation Centre manages and coordinates
disaster response at a national level. Email [email protected] Call +254-020-2212386*
* Nairobi, Kenya *
*· ** ** nationaldisaster.go.ke <http://t.co/9dWdiHpAbE>*
Now, you'll note three things:
1. The website doesn't work. There is absolutely nothing, it's just a dead page. 2. The email address goes to NDOCKenya.org <http://ndockenya.org/> -
but if you go there, you'll find it's just being hosted at GoDaddy with nothing to show. This raises a bunch of questions, but perhaps the foremost being: Why do they use this as their email address when they own a go.ke domain? 3. A way to reach the *NATIONAL* Disaster Ops Centre is a pretty
important thing to have. It's unforgivable that they can't even put up a one-page information website, much less have a site that allows people to know the official places to go, things to do/not do, during a national emergency.
It's the simple things.
-- Erik Hersman
Ushahidi <http://ushahidi.com/> | iHub <http://ihub.co.ke/> | BRCK<http://brck.com/> @WhiteAfrican <http://twitter.com/whiteafrican>
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I think we(the Govt and people) are too reactive for our own good. It is technically possible to pinpoint a users general location by virtue of the cell tower used and/or the phone no.in the case of a landline. Calling 999 should route my call to the closest emergency center which would be better placed to handle my emergency as compared to a switchboard in Nairobi. I have been waiting to hear that the police are working on a more robust solution and that the implementation right now is very temporary but it appears they have dusted their hands on a job well done. It really isn't rocket science and I bet all the telcos have this feature built in to their systems procured from Nokia Siemens and Huawei etc. As I always say technology should be as invisible as possible. A farmer in Nyamira doesn't care how Safaricom knows to route his call to the local police station when he dials 999. Telling him to call Nairobi to be connected to the police station 7km away is being rather inefficient. On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Kivuva <[email protected]> wrote:
999 used to be soo effective, but I think death of the telephone booth did it in.
But recently I find that 999 to be stable. At least it works on my Safaricom line
Call me crazy but I'd vote for an emergency number to reach the police, fire department, and ambulance system over a functioning website. I would have thought that at least the members of KICTanet would agree with that but based on the other thread, even a phone number seems too much and we should leverage 'community' when there's an emergency.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_telephone_number#Africa
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:24 PM, John Kariuki < [email protected]> wrote:
Eric,Listers. The matter raised is urgent.The ICT Cabinet Secretary could probably take it as a matter of national importance.
John Kariuki
------------------------------ *From:* Erik Hersman <[email protected]> *To:* [email protected] *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <[email protected]> *Sent:* Thursday, 26 September 2013, 9:23 *Subject:* [kictanet] It's the simple things, NDOCKenya
I realized the other day that the Kenya National Disaster Operations Center (known to us as @NDOCKenya <https://twitter.com/ndockenya> on Twitter) doesn't have even a simple website up. If they didn't have a Twitter handle, no one would even know how to reach them or get any updates from them at all. On their Twitter profile they list the following:
*The Kenya National Disaster Operation Centre manages and coordinates disaster response at a national level. Email [email protected] Call +254-020-2212386*
* Nairobi, Kenya *
*· ** ** nationaldisaster.go.ke <http://t.co/9dWdiHpAbE>*
Now, you'll note three things:
1. The website doesn't work. There is absolutely nothing, it's just a dead page. 2. The email address goes to NDOCKenya.org <http://ndockenya.org/> - but if you go there, you'll find it's just being hosted at GoDaddy with nothing to show. This raises a bunch of questions, but perhaps the foremost being: Why do they use this as their email address when they own a go.ke domain? 3. A way to reach the *NATIONAL* Disaster Ops Centre is a pretty important thing to have. It's unforgivable that they can't even put up a one-page information website, much less have a site that allows
On 27/09/2013, Adam Nelson <[email protected]> wrote: people
to know the official places to go, things to do/not do, during a national emergency.
It's the simple things.
-- Erik Hersman
Ushahidi <http://ushahidi.com/> | iHub <http://ihub.co.ke/> | BRCK<http://brck.com/> @WhiteAfrican <http://twitter.com/whiteafrican>
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