The battle for control of Kenyan Digital airspace
Some madness is brewing in the battle to control the Kenyan digital airspace. The following advert has been running after every 30 minutes in all the 4 TV stations: "Viewers do not be duped into purchasing GOTv and StarTimes pay TV set-top boxes as a means to access and watch Citizen TV, NTV, QTV, and KTN ... We are finding ways to stop this infringement of copyright, we are soon launching our own set-top boxes to distribute our free to air channels". My questions are these: 1. Do we need multiple set top boxes to watch content from the three different consortium? 2. Is it illegal to watch Citizen TV, NTV, and KTN using non-branded top boxes, or even GOTv and Startimes? 3. Is it that the 3 media houses have seen there is no way they will be able to sell the one million set top boxes they have purchased thus they want to offload electric waste to innocent Kenyan viewers? 4. Is there any Kenya willing to buy a set-top box with only 4 stations? 5. What is the stand of CA on this? Does it matter if I watch the TV using LG, Samsung, Sanyo, Greatwall, Panasonic, Sony ... because the Set-top box technology is just an extension of the TV, and anybody with a build in DVBT2 TV set will be able to watch this content without a set-top box anyway. Sincerely, ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya "There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson
Afro Cinema continues. Best Regards On 1/20/15, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Some madness is brewing in the battle to control the Kenyan digital airspace. The following advert has been running after every 30 minutes in all the 4 TV stations:
"Viewers do not be duped into purchasing GOTv and StarTimes pay TV set-top boxes as a means to access and watch Citizen TV, NTV, QTV, and KTN ... We are finding ways to stop this infringement of copyright, we are soon launching our own set-top boxes to distribute our free to air channels".
My questions are these: 1. Do we need multiple set top boxes to watch content from the three different consortium? 2. Is it illegal to watch Citizen TV, NTV, and KTN using non-branded top boxes, or even GOTv and Startimes? 3. Is it that the 3 media houses have seen there is no way they will be able to sell the one million set top boxes they have purchased thus they want to offload electric waste to innocent Kenyan viewers? 4. Is there any Kenya willing to buy a set-top box with only 4 stations? 5. What is the stand of CA on this?
Does it matter if I watch the TV using LG, Samsung, Sanyo, Greatwall, Panasonic, Sony ... because the Set-top box technology is just an extension of the TV, and anybody with a build in DVBT2 TV set will be able to watch this content without a set-top box anyway.
Sincerely, ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya
"There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson
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CA has ruled that all licensed boxes will have to carry all 40 FTA channels, there's 77 licensees. The loophole the three media houses were looking to explore were the part where Startimes and Gotv are both paytv boxes and make noise while at the same time marketing their coming soon boxes. Notice they don't mention others that are exclusively FTA boxes. Soko iko huru, and there are serious contenders for good content within Signet that would worry the three. CA has instructed them to cease passing that message onwards till case is decided. Regards, Martin Gicheru Editor Techweez On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Afro Cinema continues.
Best Regards
On 1/20/15, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Some madness is brewing in the battle to control the Kenyan digital airspace. The following advert has been running after every 30 minutes in all the 4 TV stations:
"Viewers do not be duped into purchasing GOTv and StarTimes pay TV set-top boxes as a means to access and watch Citizen TV, NTV, QTV, and KTN ... We are finding ways to stop this infringement of copyright, we are soon launching our own set-top boxes to distribute our free to air channels".
My questions are these: 1. Do we need multiple set top boxes to watch content from the three different consortium? 2. Is it illegal to watch Citizen TV, NTV, and KTN using non-branded top boxes, or even GOTv and Startimes? 3. Is it that the 3 media houses have seen there is no way they will be able to sell the one million set top boxes they have purchased thus they want to offload electric waste to innocent Kenyan viewers? 4. Is there any Kenya willing to buy a set-top box with only 4 stations? 5. What is the stand of CA on this?
Does it matter if I watch the TV using LG, Samsung, Sanyo, Greatwall, Panasonic, Sony ... because the Set-top box technology is just an extension of the TV, and anybody with a build in DVBT2 TV set will be able to watch this content without a set-top box anyway.
Sincerely, ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya
"There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson
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Barrack, Mwendwa and all This is what happens when IMHO there is a flaw/gap in the regulatory/policy environment. This is the same as shared infrastructure. On the side of the four media houses I believe they have a right to have a commercial discussion with GOtv and the others since content drives advertising revenue. In the event that they disagree there must be a mechanism to resolve this. Interesting times to be at CA. I would love to be a fly on the wall in Matano Ndaro's office...:) Ali Hussein +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad
On Jan 20, 2015, at 5:12 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Afro Cinema continues.
Best Regards
On 1/20/15, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Some madness is brewing in the battle to control the Kenyan digital airspace. The following advert has been running after every 30 minutes in all the 4 TV stations:
"Viewers do not be duped into purchasing GOTv and StarTimes pay TV set-top boxes as a means to access and watch Citizen TV, NTV, QTV, and KTN ... We are finding ways to stop this infringement of copyright, we are soon launching our own set-top boxes to distribute our free to air channels".
My questions are these: 1. Do we need multiple set top boxes to watch content from the three different consortium? 2. Is it illegal to watch Citizen TV, NTV, and KTN using non-branded top boxes, or even GOTv and Startimes? 3. Is it that the 3 media houses have seen there is no way they will be able to sell the one million set top boxes they have purchased thus they want to offload electric waste to innocent Kenyan viewers? 4. Is there any Kenya willing to buy a set-top box with only 4 stations? 5. What is the stand of CA on this?
Does it matter if I watch the TV using LG, Samsung, Sanyo, Greatwall, Panasonic, Sony ... because the Set-top box technology is just an extension of the TV, and anybody with a build in DVBT2 TV set will be able to watch this content without a set-top box anyway.
Sincerely, ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya
"There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson
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On 20 January 2015 at 17:26, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
On the side of the four media houses I believe they have a right to have a commercial discussion with GOtv and the others since content drives advertising revenue
I tend to believe GOtv, Startimes are "aerial" providers. If I am an advertiser, and I want my audience to be KBC viewers, I would put my advert on KBC and not GOtv. In the same breadth, the "aerial" providers should not be able to dictate a user's viewing experience. If I'm viewing KBC via Startimes, at no time should I see Startimes or ElimuTV or Citizen TV related advert without me the viewer switching stations. Regards ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya "There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson
Mwendwa That is exactly my point. We shouldn't disregard the fact that content costs. In the recent past we have seen local TV Stations come up with winning local programs. And local artists being awarded accordingly. We mustn't think that this comes out of thin air. Let Startimes and others enter into a commercial discussion with the media houses. I am sure they will come to an agreement. *Ali Hussein* Tel: +254 770 906375/ 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> Blog: www.alyhussein.com Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 6:44 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com
wrote:
On 20 January 2015 at 17:26, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
On the side of the four media houses I believe they have a right to have a commercial discussion with GOtv and the others since content drives advertising revenue
I tend to believe GOtv, Startimes are "aerial" providers. If I am an advertiser, and I want my audience to be KBC viewers, I would put my advert on KBC and not GOtv. In the same breadth, the "aerial" providers should not be able to dictate a user's viewing experience. If I'm viewing KBC via Startimes, at no time should I see Startimes or ElimuTV or Citizen TV related advert without me the viewer switching stations.
Regards
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya
"There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson
Dear AllElimu TV is one of the channel that has been on the digital platform since 2015. The delay in migration has affected us so much because consumers in Kenya have not been sensitized on the benefits of digital platform and so they did on willingly migrate. The three main broadcasters concentrated on frustrating the migration process and did not air anything on the discussion. Majority of Kenyan have been made to believe that the chines company is being favored against our local media houses.In the meantime Elimu TV and others could not get advertisements because the advertisers work on numbers. We have also been paying Signet and Startimes monthly fees for carrying us and relaying our content to available free to air set boxes. It time that Government and its agencies start to support other Digital TV Channels with advertisements. We need an affirmative action to ensure that the upcoming channels survive.Signet should shelve the monthly charges until a level ground is established. Jane. On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:52 AM, Ali Hussein via isoc <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: Mwendwa That is exactly my point. We shouldn't disregard the fact that content costs. In the recent past we have seen local TV Stations come up with winning local programs. And local artists being awarded accordingly. We mustn't think that this comes out of thin air. Let Startimes and others enter into a commercial discussion with the media houses. I am sure they will come to an agreement. AliHussein Tel: +254 770 906375/ 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassimBlog: www.alyhussein.com Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 6:44 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote: On 20 January 2015 at 17:26, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: On the side of the four media houses I believe they have a right to have a commercial discussion with GOtv and the others since content drives advertising revenue I tend to believe GOtv, Startimes are "aerial" providers. If I am an advertiser, and I want my audience to be KBC viewers, I would put my advert on KBC and not GOtv. In the same breadth, the "aerial" providers should not be able to dictate a user's viewing experience. If I'm viewing KBC via Startimes, at no time should I see Startimes or ElimuTV or Citizen TV related advert without me the viewer switching stations. Regards ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya "There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
what is the experience from other countries that have migrated... where has such approach as one being implemented in Kenya worked is there any country we can learn from- On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Network of non- formal Educational institutions via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear All Elimu TV is one of the channel that has been on the digital platform since 2015. The delay in migration has affected us so much because consumers in Kenya have not been sensitized on the benefits of digital platform and so they did on willingly migrate. The three main broadcasters concentrated on frustrating the migration process and did not air anything on the discussion. Majority of Kenyan have been made to believe that the chines company is being favored against our local media houses. In the meantime Elimu TV and others could not get advertisements because the advertisers work on numbers. We have also been paying Signet and Startimes monthly fees for carrying us and relaying our content to available free to air set boxes. It time that Government and its agencies start to support other Digital TV Channels with advertisements. We need an affirmative action to ensure that the upcoming channels survive. Signet should shelve the monthly charges until a level ground is established.
Jane.
On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:52 AM, Ali Hussein via isoc < isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Mwendwa
That is exactly my point. We shouldn't disregard the fact that content costs. In the recent past we have seen local TV Stations come up with winning local programs. And local artists being awarded accordingly. We mustn't think that this comes out of thin air. Let Startimes and others enter into a commercial discussion with the media houses. I am sure they will come to an agreement.
*Ali Hussein*
Tel: +254 770 906375/ 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> Blog: www.alyhussein.com
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 6:44 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva < Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
On 20 January 2015 at 17:26, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
On the side of the four media houses I believe they have a right to have a commercial discussion with GOtv and the others since content drives advertising revenue
I tend to believe GOtv, Startimes are "aerial" providers. If I am an advertiser, and I want my audience to be KBC viewers, I would put my advert on KBC and not GOtv. In the same breadth, the "aerial" providers should not be able to dictate a user's viewing experience. If I'm viewing KBC via Startimes, at no time should I see Startimes or ElimuTV or Citizen TV related advert without me the viewer switching stations.
Regards
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya
"There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson
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On 23 January 2015 at 12:02, Network of non- formal Educational institutions <nnfeischools@yahoo.com> wrote:
We have also been paying Signet and Startimes monthly fees for carrying us and relaying our content to available free to air set boxes.
Jane, thank you for this. I need to understand something, do a digital content provider like ElimuTV need to pay all digital signal providers for them to be accessible by all set-top boxes? My understanding is if I buy any box (say Samsutech set-top box), I will be able to watch all non-subscription based TV stations. As per your email, it seems a content provider has to pay all licensed digital carriers. This is is a very expensive way of distributing content. Let me understand, if you only paid Signet to carry your content, I would not be able to access it via Startimes set-top box? There is something fundamentally wrong with how we have structured policy around the digital migration and we need to clearly define a set of principles that must be adhered to by all players. Regards ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya "There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson
@ Mwendwa, You are right it should be exceedingly cheap for Jane to transmit on the digital platform. Otherwise the whole essence of going digital is lost. Here's my other take on the issue @ TV consumers should not be locked in, but neither should broadcasters - Walubengo - nation.co.ke TV consumers should not be locked in, but neither should broadcasters | | | | | | | | | | | TV consumers should not be locked in, but neither should...It is not too far-fetched to imagine SIGNET and PANG would block content deemed 'uncomfortable'. | | | | View on www.nation.co.ke | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | From: Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: ISOC Kenya Chapter <isoc@lists.my.co.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fw: [isoc_ke] The battle for control of Kenyan Digital airspace On 23 January 2015 at 12:02, Network of non- formal Educational institutions <nnfeischools@yahoo.com> wrote: We have also been paying Signet and Startimes monthly fees for carrying us and relaying our content to available free to air set boxes. Jane, thank you for this. I need to understand something, do a digital content provider like ElimuTV need to pay all digital signal providers for them to be accessible by all set-top boxes? My understanding is if I buy any box (say Samsutech set-top box), I will be able to watch all non-subscription based TV stations. As per your email, it seems a content provider has to pay all licensed digital carriers. This is is a very expensive way of distributing content. Let me understand, if you only paid Signet to carry your content, I would not be able to access it via Startimes set-top box? There is something fundamentally wrong with how we have structured policy around the digital migration and we need to clearly define a set of principles that must be adhered to by all players. Regards ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya "There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Hi All, The content rights issues needs to address with clear direction from the governing authority. There needs to be a clear outline of what can be done and what cannot be done. The charging by different Signal Carriers / Platform owners is imminent but there needs to be an outline how much can a platform charge the content / channel owner to broadcast their content. It is expensive and world over it is an accepted practice as there are costs of broadcasting and it is up to the channel owners what reach in viewers they want and how they plan to build a sustainable revenue model. Thanks, Best Regards, Baiju On 27 January 2015 at 11:00, Walubengo J via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@ Mwendwa,
You are right it should be exceedingly cheap for Jane to transmit on the digital platform. Otherwise the whole essence of going digital is lost. Here's my other take on the issue @
TV consumers should not be locked in, but neither should broadcasters - Walubengo - nation.co.ke TV consumers should not be locked in, but neither should broadcasters <http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2602512/-/10d292yz/-/index.html>
[image: image] <http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2602512/-/10d292yz/-/index.html>
TV consumers should not be locked in, but neither should... <http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2602512/-/10d292yz/-/index.html> It is not too far-fetched to imagine SIGNET and PANG would block content deemed 'uncomfortable'. View on www.nation.co.ke <http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2602512/-/10d292yz/-/index.html> Preview by Yahoo
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On 23 January 2015 at 12:02, Network of non- formal Educational institutions <nnfeischools@yahoo.com> wrote:
We have also been paying Signet and Startimes monthly fees for carrying us and relaying our content to available free to air set boxes.
Jane, thank you for this. I need to understand something, do a digital content provider like ElimuTV need to pay all digital signal providers for them to be accessible by all set-top boxes? My understanding is if I buy any box (say Samsutech set-top box), I will be able to watch all non-subscription based TV stations. As per your email, it seems a content provider has to pay all licensed digital carriers. This is is a very expensive way of distributing content.
Let me understand, if you only paid Signet to carry your content, I would not be able to access it via Startimes set-top box?
There is something fundamentally wrong with how we have structured policy around the digital migration and we need to clearly define a set of principles that must be adhered to by all players.
Regards
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya
"There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson
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Listers, There is something that I don't really get in this "Copyright" claim by the media houses. If you have a free-air service (TV, Webpage), as an example, and where your business model is based on this free-air service reaching the most eyeballs as you possibly can (advertising) in a certain market, then why would you oppose someone who is helping you to reach even higher numbers of eyeballs in that exact same market? This is akin to Google suing an ISP in Kenya that is connecting more end user clients to its ISP Network, so that they can have access to Google Search, of violating Google's Copyright! Ridiculous! Or is there an underlying argument based on say when the copyright holders license NTV, as an example to license a Soap/Series, they base their licensing fees to NTV based on the No Of Viewers NTV claims it has. So if you 'magnify' this No by re-distributing the signal to even more viewers, NTV is supposed to increase its licensing fees to the actual copyright holders? I understand the argument on the number of channels that have been licensed to the PANG guys being excessive (60% or thereabouts) and this is the debate that we should be having. Rgds On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Baiju Shah via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi All,
The content rights issues needs to address with clear direction from the governing authority. There needs to be a clear outline of what can be done and what cannot be done. The charging by different Signal Carriers / Platform owners is imminent but there needs to be an outline how much can a platform charge the content / channel owner to broadcast their content. It is expensive and world over it is an accepted practice as there are costs of broadcasting and it is up to the channel owners what reach in viewers they want and how they plan to build a sustainable revenue model.
Thanks,
Best Regards,
Baiju
On 27 January 2015 at 11:00, Walubengo J via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@ Mwendwa,
You are right it should be exceedingly cheap for Jane to transmit on the digital platform. Otherwise the whole essence of going digital is lost. Here's my other take on the issue @
TV consumers should not be locked in, but neither should broadcasters - Walubengo - nation.co.ke TV consumers should not be locked in, but neither should broadcasters <http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2602512/-/10d292yz/-/index.html>
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TV consumers should not be locked in, but neither should... <http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2602512/-/10d292yz/-/index.html> It is not too far-fetched to imagine SIGNET and PANG would block content deemed 'uncomfortable'. View on www.nation.co.ke <http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2602512/-/10d292yz/-/index.html> Preview by Yahoo
------------------------------ *From:* Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *To:* jwalu@yahoo.com *Cc:* ISOC Kenya Chapter <isoc@lists.my.co.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Friday, January 23, 2015 1:23 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Fw: [isoc_ke] The battle for control of Kenyan Digital airspace
On 23 January 2015 at 12:02, Network of non- formal Educational institutions <nnfeischools@yahoo.com> wrote:
We have also been paying Signet and Startimes monthly fees for carrying us and relaying our content to available free to air set boxes.
Jane, thank you for this. I need to understand something, do a digital content provider like ElimuTV need to pay all digital signal providers for them to be accessible by all set-top boxes? My understanding is if I buy any box (say Samsutech set-top box), I will be able to watch all non-subscription based TV stations. As per your email, it seems a content provider has to pay all licensed digital carriers. This is is a very expensive way of distributing content.
Let me understand, if you only paid Signet to carry your content, I would not be able to access it via Startimes set-top box?
There is something fundamentally wrong with how we have structured policy around the digital migration and we need to clearly define a set of principles that must be adhered to by all players.
Regards
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya
"There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson
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Dear AllThe cost charged by Signet is affordable on an open opportunity platform. The delay in migration gives the old boys an advantage since advertises are still not convinced off the viewership on the digital platform. On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 11:24 AM, Walubengo J via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: @ Mwendwa, You are right it should be exceedingly cheap for Jane to transmit on the digital platform. Otherwise the whole essence of going digital is lost. Here's my other take on the issue @ TV consumers should not be locked in, but neither should broadcasters - Walubengo - nation.co.ke TV consumers should not be locked in, but neither should broadcasters | | | | | | | | | | | TV consumers should not be locked in, but neither should...It is not too far-fetched to imagine SIGNET and PANG would block content deemed 'uncomfortable'. | | | | View on www.nation.co.ke | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | From: Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: ISOC Kenya Chapter <isoc@lists.my.co.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fw: [isoc_ke] The battle for control of Kenyan Digital airspace On 23 January 2015 at 12:02, Network of non- formal Educational institutions <nnfeischools@yahoo.com> wrote: We have also been paying Signet and Startimes monthly fees for carrying us and relaying our content to available free to air set boxes. Jane, thank you for this. I need to understand something, do a digital content provider like ElimuTV need to pay all digital signal providers for them to be accessible by all set-top boxes? My understanding is if I buy any box (say Samsutech set-top box), I will be able to watch all non-subscription based TV stations. As per your email, it seems a content provider has to pay all licensed digital carriers. This is is a very expensive way of distributing content. Let me understand, if you only paid Signet to carry your content, I would not be able to access it via Startimes set-top box? There is something fundamentally wrong with how we have structured policy around the digital migration and we need to clearly define a set of principles that must be adhered to by all players. Regards ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya "There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/nnfeischools%40yahoo.c... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Its a very complicated chess game going on. 1. SIGNET+PANG are the designated national digital distributors - but bila (without) content to distribute2. The 3private Broadcasters have content - but bila (without) distribution rights or licenses. Regulatory Options:1. Do you FORCE the 3 to surrender their content to SIGNET+PANG for distribution?2. Do you give the 3private Broadcasters their own distribution network (BSD License?) Impact1. Option 1 can be and will be frustrated (cry copyright, cry media freedom, cry all over to Supreme court + now Paris :-)2. Option 2 seems attractive and doable - HOWEVER, giving the 3private their own license has the following impacta) It leaves SIGNET+PANG high and dry with close "nothing" to distribute. Technically the close shop.b) It leaves the 3broadcasters enjoying and sometimes exploiting their dominant position (think Safcom :-) Way forward.Seek solutions together since a local solution must be existing. Thorax and chest thumping by both government and broadcasters will not work and will simply leave Kenya's digital migration process critically damaged and perhaps beyond salvage. From: Network of non- formal Educational institutions <nnfeischools@yahoo.com> To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: ISOC Kenya Chapter <isoc@lists.my.co.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fw: [isoc_ke] The battle for control of Kenyan Digital airspace Dear AllThe cost charged by Signet is affordable on an open opportunity platform. The delay in migration gives the old boys an advantage since advertises are still not convinced off the viewership on the digital platform. On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 11:24 AM, Walubengo J via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: @ Mwendwa, You are right it should be exceedingly cheap for Jane to transmit on the digital platform. Otherwise the whole essence of going digital is lost. Here's my other take on the issue @ TV consumers should not be locked in, but neither should broadcasters - Walubengo - nation.co.ke TV consumers should not be locked in, but neither should broadcasters | | | | | | | | | | | TV consumers should not be locked in, but neither should...It is not too far-fetched to imagine SIGNET and PANG would block content deemed 'uncomfortable'. | | | | View on www.nation.co.ke | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | From: Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: ISOC Kenya Chapter <isoc@lists.my.co.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fw: [isoc_ke] The battle for control of Kenyan Digital airspace On 23 January 2015 at 12:02, Network of non- formal Educational institutions <nnfeischools@yahoo.com> wrote: We have also been paying Signet and Startimes monthly fees for carrying us and relaying our content to available free to air set boxes. Jane, thank you for this. I need to understand something, do a digital content provider like ElimuTV need to pay all digital signal providers for them to be accessible by all set-top boxes? My understanding is if I buy any box (say Samsutech set-top box), I will be able to watch all non-subscription based TV stations. As per your email, it seems a content provider has to pay all licensed digital carriers. This is is a very expensive way of distributing content. Let me understand, if you only paid Signet to carry your content, I would not be able to access it via Startimes set-top box? There is something fundamentally wrong with how we have structured policy around the digital migration and we need to clearly define a set of principles that must be adhered to by all players. Regards ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya "There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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Walubengo am sorry to say that PANG and SIGNET brought the first point on themselves. Example. ..CAK awarded me the temporary authorization to broadcast...I built my broadcast station...then PANG and SIGNET gave me run around for several months forcing me to have to seek extensions from CAK and even forcing me to sign minimum 5 locations even though my strategy was different... and further making me to resolve to wait until when full migration happens so it's cheaper...my own analysis. If PANG and SIGNET were smart to enable the more than 100 licensees go live quick...the game would be slightly different. Now they r stuck with BSD license that ....well...let me not say. On 27 Jan 2015 18:29, "Walubengo J via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Its a very complicated chess game going on.
1. SIGNET+PANG are the designated national digital distributors - but bila (without) content to distribute 2. The 3private Broadcasters have content - but bila (without) distribution rights or licenses.
Regulatory Options: 1. Do you FORCE the 3 to surrender their content to SIGNET+PANG for distribution? 2. Do you give the 3private Broadcasters their own distribution network (BSD License?)
Impact 1. Option 1 can be and will be frustrated (cry copyright, cry media freedom, cry all over to Supreme court + now Paris :-) 2. Option 2 seems attractive and doable - HOWEVER, giving the 3private their own license has the following impact a) It leaves SIGNET+PANG high and dry with close "nothing" to distribute. Technically the close shop. b) It leaves the 3broadcasters enjoying and sometimes exploiting their dominant position (think Safcom :-)
Way forward. Seek solutions together since a local solution must be existing. Thorax and chest thumping by both government and broadcasters will not work and will simply leave Kenya's digital migration process critically damaged and perhaps beyond salvage.
------------------------------ *From:* Network of non- formal Educational institutions < nnfeischools@yahoo.com> *To:* Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Cc:* ISOC Kenya Chapter <isoc@lists.my.co.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 27, 2015 3:35 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Fw: [isoc_ke] The battle for control of Kenyan Digital airspace
Dear All The cost charged by Signet is affordable on an open opportunity platform. The delay in migration gives the old boys an advantage since advertises are still not convinced off the viewership on the digital platform.
On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 11:24 AM, Walubengo J via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@ Mwendwa,
You are right it should be exceedingly cheap for Jane to transmit on the digital platform. Otherwise the whole essence of going digital is lost. Here's my other take on the issue @
TV consumers should not be locked in, but neither should broadcasters - Walubengo - nation.co.ke TV consumers should not be locked in, but neither should broadcasters <http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2602512/-/10d292yz/-/index.html>
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TV consumers should not be locked in, but neither should... <http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2602512/-/10d292yz/-/index.html> It is not too far-fetched to imagine SIGNET and PANG would block content deemed 'uncomfortable'. View on www.nation.co.ke <http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2602512/-/10d292yz/-/index.html> Preview by Yahoo
------------------------------ *From:* Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *To:* jwalu@yahoo.com *Cc:* ISOC Kenya Chapter <isoc@lists.my.co.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Friday, January 23, 2015 1:23 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Fw: [isoc_ke] The battle for control of Kenyan Digital airspace
On 23 January 2015 at 12:02, Network of non- formal Educational institutions <nnfeischools@yahoo.com> wrote:
We have also been paying Signet and Startimes monthly fees for carrying us and relaying our content to available free to air set boxes.
Jane, thank you for this. I need to understand something, do a digital content provider like ElimuTV need to pay all digital signal providers for them to be accessible by all set-top boxes? My understanding is if I buy any box (say Samsutech set-top box), I will be able to watch all non-subscription based TV stations. As per your email, it seems a content provider has to pay all licensed digital carriers. This is is a very expensive way of distributing content.
Let me understand, if you only paid Signet to carry your content, I would not be able to access it via Startimes set-top box?
There is something fundamentally wrong with how we have structured policy around the digital migration and we need to clearly define a set of principles that must be adhered to by all players.
Regards
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya
"There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson
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See my view inline On 27 January 2015 at 18:25, Walubengo J via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Its a very complicated chess game going on.
1. SIGNET+PANG are the designated national digital distributors - but bila (without) content to distribute 2. The 3private Broadcasters have content - but bila (without) distribution rights or licenses.
Regulatory Options: 1. Do you FORCE the 3 to surrender their content to SIGNET+PANG for distribution?
2. Do you give the 3private Broadcasters their own distribution network
(BSD License?)
I like to view this from a mobile phone perspective. Each user is allowed to buy whichever phone (s)he loves, and put whichever SIM card, Safaricom, Zain, Orange. CA should take a bold move forward and require standard digital boxes where users buy TV CARDS and load funds -- same ase SIM cards to insert on the setboxes to view either Supersport, GoTV, Startimes, BambaTV, ZUKu, e.t.c or whoever does not want to buy the card can view all Free To Air channels. Do I make any sense. Regards
Impact
1. Option 1 can be and will be frustrated (cry copyright, cry media freedom, cry all over to Supreme court + now Paris :-) 2. Option 2 seems attractive and doable - HOWEVER, giving the 3private their own license has the following impact a) It leaves SIGNET+PANG high and dry with close "nothing" to distribute. Technically the close shop.
This will give PANG an avenue to innovate and offer competitive "carrier charges" to independent content providers. Let PANG work hard to earn their position. Remembers Standard and Nation has been on the scene since around year 1901. Signet (read KBC) have always rode on taxpayers funding and have nothing to prove. Taxpayers actually expect no surprise from them, but CA must ensure Signet has more reach across the country through USFs.
b) It leaves the 3broadcasters enjoying and sometimes exploiting their dominant position (think Safcom :-)
There is a "must carry" principle whereby all FTA channels should be accessible from whichever network. I would love to see how CA enforces this.
Way forward. Seek solutions together since a local solution must be existing. Thorax and chest thumping by both government and broadcasters will not work and will simply leave Kenya's digital migration process critically damaged and perhaps beyond salvage.
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya "There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson
Is Safaricom preparing to join the decoder business. What dynamics would this bring to the battle Jane On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 2:15 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: See my view inline On 27 January 2015 at 18:25, Walubengo J via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Its a very complicated chess game going on. 1. SIGNET+PANG are the designated national digital distributors - but bila (without) content to distribute2. The 3private Broadcasters have content - but bila (without) distribution rights or licenses. Regulatory Options:1. Do you FORCE the 3 to surrender their content to SIGNET+PANG for distribution? 2. Do you give the 3private Broadcasters their own distribution network (BSD License?) I like to view this from a mobile phone perspective. Each user is allowed to buy whichever phone (s)he loves, and put whichever SIM card, Safaricom, Zain, Orange. CA should take a bold move forward and require standard digital boxes where users buy TV CARDS and load funds -- same ase SIM cards to insert on the setboxes to view either Supersport, GoTV, Startimes, BambaTV, ZUKu, e.t.c or whoever does not want to buy the card can view all Free To Air channels. Do I make any sense. Regards Impact1. Option 1 can be and will be frustrated (cry copyright, cry media freedom, cry all over to Supreme court + now Paris :-)2. Option 2 seems attractive and doable - HOWEVER, giving the 3private their own license has the following impacta) It leaves SIGNET+PANG high and dry with close "nothing" to distribute. Technically the close shop. This will give PANG an avenue to innovate and offer competitive "carrier charges" to independent content providers. Let PANG work hard to earn their position. Remembers Standard and Nation has been on the scene since around year 1901. Signet (read KBC) have always rode on taxpayers funding and have nothing to prove. Taxpayers actually expect no surprise from them, but CA must ensure Signet has more reach across the country through USFs. b) It leaves the 3broadcasters enjoying and sometimes exploiting their dominant position (think Safcom :-) There is a "must carry" principle whereby all FTA channels should be accessible from whichever network. I would love to see how CA enforces this. Way forward.Seek solutions together since a local solution must be existing. Thorax and chest thumping by both government and broadcasters will not work and will simply leave Kenya's digital migration process critically damaged and perhaps beyond salvage. ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya "There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/nnfeischools%40yahoo.c... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
@Walu How about forcing PANG to sell up to 80% of its shareholding to 5 local broadcasters? Foreigners MUST not solely control a company in Kenya with signal distribution rights. Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32* On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Walubengo J via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Its a very complicated chess game going on.
1. SIGNET+PANG are the designated national digital distributors - but bila (without) content to distribute 2. The 3private Broadcasters have content - but bila (without) distribution rights or licenses.
Regulatory Options: 1. Do you FORCE the 3 to surrender their content to SIGNET+PANG for distribution? 2. Do you give the 3private Broadcasters their own distribution network (BSD License?)
Impact 1. Option 1 can be and will be frustrated (cry copyright, cry media freedom, cry all over to Supreme court + now Paris :-) 2. Option 2 seems attractive and doable - HOWEVER, giving the 3private their own license has the following impact a) It leaves SIGNET+PANG high and dry with close "nothing" to distribute. Technically the close shop. b) It leaves the 3broadcasters enjoying and sometimes exploiting their dominant position (think Safcom :-)
Way forward. Seek solutions together since a local solution must be existing. Thorax and chest thumping by both government and broadcasters will not work and will simply leave Kenya's digital migration process critically damaged and perhaps beyond salvage.
------------------------------ *From:* Network of non- formal Educational institutions < nnfeischools@yahoo.com> *To:* Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Cc:* ISOC Kenya Chapter <isoc@lists.my.co.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 27, 2015 3:35 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Fw: [isoc_ke] The battle for control of Kenyan Digital airspace
Dear All The cost charged by Signet is affordable on an open opportunity platform. The delay in migration gives the old boys an advantage since advertises are still not convinced off the viewership on the digital platform.
On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 11:24 AM, Walubengo J via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@ Mwendwa,
You are right it should be exceedingly cheap for Jane to transmit on the digital platform. Otherwise the whole essence of going digital is lost. Here's my other take on the issue @
TV consumers should not be locked in, but neither should broadcasters - Walubengo - nation.co.ke TV consumers should not be locked in, but neither should broadcasters <http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2602512/-/10d292yz/-/index.html>
[image: image] <http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2602512/-/10d292yz/-/index.html>
TV consumers should not be locked in, but neither should... <http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2602512/-/10d292yz/-/index.html> It is not too far-fetched to imagine SIGNET and PANG would block content deemed 'uncomfortable'. View on www.nation.co.ke <http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2602512/-/10d292yz/-/index.html> Preview by Yahoo
------------------------------ *From:* Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *To:* jwalu@yahoo.com *Cc:* ISOC Kenya Chapter <isoc@lists.my.co.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Friday, January 23, 2015 1:23 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Fw: [isoc_ke] The battle for control of Kenyan Digital airspace
On 23 January 2015 at 12:02, Network of non- formal Educational institutions <nnfeischools@yahoo.com> wrote:
We have also been paying Signet and Startimes monthly fees for carrying us and relaying our content to available free to air set boxes.
Jane, thank you for this. I need to understand something, do a digital content provider like ElimuTV need to pay all digital signal providers for them to be accessible by all set-top boxes? My understanding is if I buy any box (say Samsutech set-top box), I will be able to watch all non-subscription based TV stations. As per your email, it seems a content provider has to pay all licensed digital carriers. This is is a very expensive way of distributing content.
Let me understand, if you only paid Signet to carry your content, I would not be able to access it via Startimes set-top box?
There is something fundamentally wrong with how we have structured policy around the digital migration and we need to clearly define a set of principles that must be adhered to by all players.
Regards
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya
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How about PANG floating the shares at NSE. Broadcasting should not be the preserve of a few Kenyans.... On Wed Feb 11 2015 at 19:11:53 S.M. Muraya via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Walu
How about forcing PANG to sell up to 80% of its shareholding to 5 local broadcasters?
Foreigners MUST not solely control a company in Kenya with signal distribution rights.
Regards
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
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On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Walubengo J via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Its a very complicated chess game going on.
1. SIGNET+PANG are the designated national digital distributors - but bila (without) content to distribute 2. The 3private Broadcasters have content - but bila (without) distribution rights or licenses.
Regulatory Options: 1. Do you FORCE the 3 to surrender their content to SIGNET+PANG for distribution? 2. Do you give the 3private Broadcasters their own distribution network (BSD License?)
Impact 1. Option 1 can be and will be frustrated (cry copyright, cry media freedom, cry all over to Supreme court + now Paris :-) 2. Option 2 seems attractive and doable - HOWEVER, giving the 3private their own license has the following impact a) It leaves SIGNET+PANG high and dry with close "nothing" to distribute. Technically the close shop. b) It leaves the 3broadcasters enjoying and sometimes exploiting their dominant position (think Safcom :-)
Way forward. Seek solutions together since a local solution must be existing. Thorax and chest thumping by both government and broadcasters will not work and will simply leave Kenya's digital migration process critically damaged and perhaps beyond salvage.
------------------------------ *From:* Network of non- formal Educational institutions < nnfeischools@yahoo.com> *To:* Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Cc:* ISOC Kenya Chapter <isoc@lists.my.co.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 27, 2015 3:35 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Fw: [isoc_ke] The battle for control of Kenyan Digital airspace
Dear All The cost charged by Signet is affordable on an open opportunity platform. The delay in migration gives the old boys an advantage since advertises are still not convinced off the viewership on the digital platform.
On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 11:24 AM, Walubengo J via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@ Mwendwa,
You are right it should be exceedingly cheap for Jane to transmit on the digital platform. Otherwise the whole essence of going digital is lost. Here's my other take on the issue @
TV consumers should not be locked in, but neither should broadcasters - Walubengo - nation.co.ke TV consumers should not be locked in, but neither should broadcasters <http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2602512/-/10d292yz/-/index.html>
[image: image] <http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2602512/-/10d292yz/-/index.html>
TV consumers should not be locked in, but neither should... <http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2602512/-/10d292yz/-/index.html> It is not too far-fetched to imagine SIGNET and PANG would block content deemed 'uncomfortable'. View on www.nation.co.ke <http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2602512/-/10d292yz/-/index.html> Preview by Yahoo
------------------------------ *From:* Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *To:* jwalu@yahoo.com *Cc:* ISOC Kenya Chapter <isoc@lists.my.co.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Friday, January 23, 2015 1:23 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Fw: [isoc_ke] The battle for control of Kenyan Digital airspace
On 23 January 2015 at 12:02, Network of non- formal Educational institutions <nnfeischools@yahoo.com> wrote:
We have also been paying Signet and Startimes monthly fees for carrying us and relaying our content to available free to air set boxes.
Jane, thank you for this. I need to understand something, do a digital content provider like ElimuTV need to pay all digital signal providers for them to be accessible by all set-top boxes? My understanding is if I buy any box (say Samsutech set-top box), I will be able to watch all non-subscription based TV stations. As per your email, it seems a content provider has to pay all licensed digital carriers. This is is a very expensive way of distributing content.
Let me understand, if you only paid Signet to carry your content, I would not be able to access it via Startimes set-top box?
There is something fundamentally wrong with how we have structured policy around the digital migration and we need to clearly define a set of principles that must be adhered to by all players.
Regards
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya
"There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson
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@Murigi ..that would be a hostile takeover of the PANG shares. However, I still dont understand how PANG can be 100% chinese owned given a previous policy that foreign telcos must have at leat 30% local ownership(has this changed?). However, given the full-blast pressure PANG has managed to withstand from the 3local broadcasters - chances are very high that indeed PANG does have its "local" owners in the "leafy suburbs" :-). Anyway, from a regulatory point of view, the ideal market was supposed to be such that the content providers (broadcasters) do not actually own the distribution infrastructure (digital network+spectrum). This is so that they can "hire" the distribution channel from the few infrastructure owners (PANG/SIGNET) and concentrate on production of content (which is a good thing). However, regulator failed to anticipate the resistance coming from the 3Broadcasters who own 80% of the market (TV eyeballs). These guys have refused to "hire" channels from the infrastructure owners - preferring to build their own infrastructure instead. So they are most likely not interested in partnering with PANG/SIGNET through shares. @Jane - can Safaricom or any (other Internet company) become a digital network distributor? They already are - from a converged point of view. You can watch NTV/KTN/Citizen online. Except that the data bundles will cost you more than an arm and a leg, forcing you to disconnect Can Safcom bid for the 3rd Signal Distribution Licences? They are ably represented here and so should speak for themselves. But my take is that it depends on how the supreme court rules in the fight between the 3Broadcasters and the Regulator (aka PANG/SIGNET). walu.nb: KBC(SIGNET) has since then gone back to analogue (without the 3Broadcasters, they are "bila" content as earlier predicated). From: S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com> To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: ISOC Kenya Chapter <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fw: [isoc_ke] The battle for control of Kenyan Digital airspace - Way Forward @Walu How about forcing PANG to sell up to 80% of its shareholding to 5 local broadcasters? Foreigners MUST not solely control a company in Kenya with signal distribution rights. Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya "Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Walubengo J via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Its a very complicated chess game going on. 1. SIGNET+PANG are the designated national digital distributors - but bila (without) content to distribute2. The 3private Broadcasters have content - but bila (without) distribution rights or licenses. Regulatory Options:1. Do you FORCE the 3 to surrender their content to SIGNET+PANG for distribution?2. Do you give the 3private Broadcasters their own distribution network (BSD License?) Impact1. Option 1 can be and will be frustrated (cry copyright, cry media freedom, cry all over to Supreme court + now Paris :-)2. Option 2 seems attractive and doable - HOWEVER, giving the 3private their own license has the following impacta) It leaves SIGNET+PANG high and dry with close "nothing" to distribute. Technically the close shop.b) It leaves the 3broadcasters enjoying and sometimes exploiting their dominant position (think Safcom :-) Way forward.Seek solutions together since a local solution must be existing. Thorax and chest thumping by both government and broadcasters will not work and will simply leave Kenya's digital migration process critically damaged and perhaps beyond salvage. From: Network of non- formal Educational institutions <nnfeischools@yahoo.com> To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: ISOC Kenya Chapter <isoc@lists.my.co.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fw: [isoc_ke] The battle for control of Kenyan Digital airspace Dear AllThe cost charged by Signet is affordable on an open opportunity platform. The delay in migration gives the old boys an advantage since advertises are still not convinced off the viewership on the digital platform. On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 11:24 AM, Walubengo J via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: @ Mwendwa, You are right it should be exceedingly cheap for Jane to transmit on the digital platform. Otherwise the whole essence of going digital is lost. Here's my other take on the issue @ TV consumers should not be locked in, but neither should broadcasters - Walubengo - nation.co.ke TV consumers should not be locked in, but neither should broadcasters | | | | | | | | | | | TV consumers should not be locked in, but neither should...It is not too far-fetched to imagine SIGNET and PANG would block content deemed 'uncomfortable'. | | | | View on www.nation.co.ke | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | From: Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: ISOC Kenya Chapter <isoc@lists.my.co.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fw: [isoc_ke] The battle for control of Kenyan Digital airspace On 23 January 2015 at 12:02, Network of non- formal Educational institutions <nnfeischools@yahoo.com> wrote: We have also been paying Signet and Startimes monthly fees for carrying us and relaying our content to available free to air set boxes. Jane, thank you for this. I need to understand something, do a digital content provider like ElimuTV need to pay all digital signal providers for them to be accessible by all set-top boxes? My understanding is if I buy any box (say Samsutech set-top box), I will be able to watch all non-subscription based TV stations. As per your email, it seems a content provider has to pay all licensed digital carriers. This is is a very expensive way of distributing content. Let me understand, if you only paid Signet to carry your content, I would not be able to access it via Startimes set-top box? There is something fundamentally wrong with how we have structured policy around the digital migration and we need to clearly define a set of principles that must be adhered to by all players. Regards ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya "There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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More informed comments here.. http://www.digitaltvafrica.com On Feb 12, 2015 12:16 PM, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Murigi
..that would be a hostile takeover of the PANG shares. However, I still dont understand how PANG can be 100% chinese owned given a previous policy that foreign telcos must have at leat 30% local ownership(has this changed?). However, given the full-blast pressure PANG has managed to withstand from the 3local broadcasters - chances are very high that indeed PANG does have its "local" owners in the "leafy suburbs" :-).
Anyway, from a regulatory point of view, the ideal market was supposed to be such that the content providers (broadcasters) do not actually own the distribution infrastructure (digital network+spectrum). This is so that they can "hire" the distribution channel from the few infrastructure owners (PANG/SIGNET) and concentrate on production of content (which is a good thing).
However, regulator failed to anticipate the resistance coming from the 3Broadcasters who own 80% of the market (TV eyeballs). These guys have refused to "hire" channels from the infrastructure owners - preferring to build their own infrastructure instead. So they are most likely not interested in partnering with PANG/SIGNET through shares.
@Jane - can Safaricom or any (other Internet company) become a digital network distributor? They already are - from a converged point of view. You can watch NTV/KTN/Citizen online. Except that the data bundles will cost you more than an arm and a leg, forcing you to disconnect
Can Safcom bid for the 3rd Signal Distribution Licences? They are ably represented here and so should speak for themselves. But my take is that it depends on how the supreme court rules in the fight between the 3Broadcasters and the Regulator (aka PANG/SIGNET).
walu. nb: KBC(SIGNET) has since then gone back to analogue (without the 3Broadcasters, they are "bila" content as earlier predicated).
------------------------------ *From:* S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com> *To:* Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Cc:* ISOC Kenya Chapter <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 11, 2015 7:11 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Fw: [isoc_ke] The battle for control of Kenyan Digital airspace - Way Forward
@Walu
How about forcing PANG to sell up to 80% of its shareholding to 5 local broadcasters?
Foreigners MUST not solely control a company in Kenya with signal distribution rights.
Regards
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Walubengo J via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Its a very complicated chess game going on.
1. SIGNET+PANG are the designated national digital distributors - but bila (without) content to distribute 2. The 3private Broadcasters have content - but bila (without) distribution rights or licenses.
Regulatory Options: 1. Do you FORCE the 3 to surrender their content to SIGNET+PANG for distribution? 2. Do you give the 3private Broadcasters their own distribution network (BSD License?)
Impact 1. Option 1 can be and will be frustrated (cry copyright, cry media freedom, cry all over to Supreme court + now Paris :-) 2. Option 2 seems attractive and doable - HOWEVER, giving the 3private their own license has the following impact a) It leaves SIGNET+PANG high and dry with close "nothing" to distribute. Technically the close shop. b) It leaves the 3broadcasters enjoying and sometimes exploiting their dominant position (think Safcom :-)
Way forward. Seek solutions together since a local solution must be existing. Thorax and chest thumping by both government and broadcasters will not work and will simply leave Kenya's digital migration process critically damaged and perhaps beyond salvage.
------------------------------ *From:* Network of non- formal Educational institutions < nnfeischools@yahoo.com> *To:* Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Cc:* ISOC Kenya Chapter <isoc@lists.my.co.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 27, 2015 3:35 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Fw: [isoc_ke] The battle for control of Kenyan Digital airspace
Dear All The cost charged by Signet is affordable on an open opportunity platform. The delay in migration gives the old boys an advantage since advertises are still not convinced off the viewership on the digital platform.
On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 11:24 AM, Walubengo J via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@ Mwendwa,
You are right it should be exceedingly cheap for Jane to transmit on the digital platform. Otherwise the whole essence of going digital is lost. Here's my other take on the issue @
TV consumers should not be locked in, but neither should broadcasters - Walubengo - nation.co.ke TV consumers should not be locked in, but neither should broadcasters <http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2602512/-/10d292yz/-/index.html>
[image: image] <http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2602512/-/10d292yz/-/index.html>
TV consumers should not be locked in, but neither should... <http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2602512/-/10d292yz/-/index.html> It is not too far-fetched to imagine SIGNET and PANG would block content deemed 'uncomfortable'. View on www.nation.co.ke <http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2602512/-/10d292yz/-/index.html> Preview by Yahoo
------------------------------ *From:* Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *To:* jwalu@yahoo.com *Cc:* ISOC Kenya Chapter <isoc@lists.my.co.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Friday, January 23, 2015 1:23 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Fw: [isoc_ke] The battle for control of Kenyan Digital airspace
On 23 January 2015 at 12:02, Network of non- formal Educational institutions <nnfeischools@yahoo.com> wrote:
We have also been paying Signet and Startimes monthly fees for carrying us and relaying our content to available free to air set boxes.
Jane, thank you for this. I need to understand something, do a digital content provider like ElimuTV need to pay all digital signal providers for them to be accessible by all set-top boxes? My understanding is if I buy any box (say Samsutech set-top box), I will be able to watch all non-subscription based TV stations. As per your email, it seems a content provider has to pay all licensed digital carriers. This is is a very expensive way of distributing content.
Let me understand, if you only paid Signet to carry your content, I would not be able to access it via Startimes set-top box?
There is something fundamentally wrong with how we have structured policy around the digital migration and we need to clearly define a set of principles that must be adhered to by all players.
Regards
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya
"There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson
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The comedy continues! *Court **mutes** ‘defamatory’ adverts against **GOtv* http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/2015/01/court-mutes-defamatory-adverts-a... ./mouz On Jan 20, 2015 5:06 PM, "Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Some madness is brewing in the battle to control the Kenyan digital airspace. The following advert has been running after every 30 minutes in all the 4 TV stations:
"Viewers do not be duped into purchasing GOTv and StarTimes pay TV set-top boxes as a means to access and watch Citizen TV, NTV, QTV, and KTN ... We are finding ways to stop this infringement of copyright, we are soon launching our own set-top boxes to distribute our free to air channels".
My questions are these: 1. Do we need multiple set top boxes to watch content from the three different consortium? 2. Is it illegal to watch Citizen TV, NTV, and KTN using non-branded top boxes, or even GOTv and Startimes? 3. Is it that the 3 media houses have seen there is no way they will be able to sell the one million set top boxes they have purchased thus they want to offload electric waste to innocent Kenyan viewers? 4. Is there any Kenya willing to buy a set-top box with only 4 stations? 5. What is the stand of CA on this?
Does it matter if I watch the TV using LG, Samsung, Sanyo, Greatwall, Panasonic, Sony ... because the Set-top box technology is just an extension of the TV, and anybody with a build in DVBT2 TV set will be able to watch this content without a set-top box anyway.
Sincerely, ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya
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The problem is that the Business/Marketing heads are controlling the technical heads. As an example EBRU Africa TV has awesome programming and I would rater watch it on a lazy day than watch the big 3. Once they (EBRU) are accessible allover the country the market share of the dominant will plummet. This is from a non scientific study conducted on my Parents upcountry when we bought them a digital ready TV. There is simply more choice and you don't have to watch Papa Shirandula if there is a wildlife documentary on another channel. As I understand it the Settop boxes being ordered by the 3 companies will carry exactly 4 signals. Why you would buy that and ignore the Signet and PANG channels makes no sense for a household. Even if they withdraw their sinals from PANG and Signet, would you happily keep watching 4 stations when you can get loads more for free?? I think the technology caught them totally flat footed (even if they had 10 years to get in line) On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Mouz via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The comedy continues!
*Court **mutes** ‘defamatory’ adverts against **GOtv*
http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/2015/01/court-mutes-defamatory-adverts-a...
./mouz On Jan 20, 2015 5:06 PM, "Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Some madness is brewing in the battle to control the Kenyan digital airspace. The following advert has been running after every 30 minutes in all the 4 TV stations:
"Viewers do not be duped into purchasing GOTv and StarTimes pay TV set-top boxes as a means to access and watch Citizen TV, NTV, QTV, and KTN ... We are finding ways to stop this infringement of copyright, we are soon launching our own set-top boxes to distribute our free to air channels".
My questions are these: 1. Do we need multiple set top boxes to watch content from the three different consortium? 2. Is it illegal to watch Citizen TV, NTV, and KTN using non-branded top boxes, or even GOTv and Startimes? 3. Is it that the 3 media houses have seen there is no way they will be able to sell the one million set top boxes they have purchased thus they want to offload electric waste to innocent Kenyan viewers? 4. Is there any Kenya willing to buy a set-top box with only 4 stations? 5. What is the stand of CA on this?
Does it matter if I watch the TV using LG, Samsung, Sanyo, Greatwall, Panasonic, Sony ... because the Set-top box technology is just an extension of the TV, and anybody with a build in DVBT2 TV set will be able to watch this content without a set-top box anyway.
Sincerely, ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya
"There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson
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On 21 January 2015 at 12:38, Mark Mwangi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
As I understand it the Settop boxes being ordered by the 3 companies will carry exactly 4 signals. Why you would buy that and ignore the Signet and PANG channels makes no sense for a household. Even if they withdraw their sinals from PANG and Signet, would you happily keep watching 4 stations when you can get loads more for free??
It has been clarified elsewhere that any setbox whichever the vendor will carry all Free To Air (FTA) channels. What we should understand is that a setbox is a component of a TV, only that the setbox is external because our old TVs were analog and buying new digital TVs would not be cost effective. Therefore, no FTA channel owner can deny anybody from accessing content from say a digital LG and Samsung but allow Sony and Sanyo. CCK seems to have flexed it's muscle by reigning on the fallacy that was being perpetrated by the 3 media houses. ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya "There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson
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Ali Hussein -
Baiju Shah -
Barrack Otieno -
Bernard Kioko -
Dennis Kioko -
Mark Mwangi -
Martin Gicheru -
Mouz -
Mwendwa Kivuva -
Network of non- formal Educational institutions -
Ngigi Waithaka -
S.M. Muraya -
Victor bwire -
Walubengo J