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Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem. Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on the locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource. With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law. After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers. This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in the Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country. We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility. What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something that has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes. KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that they question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country. Ndemo.
Ndemo, We all know your passion for this industry. My experience in the industry is that those who have acted selflessly to pursue the growth and development of the industry have undergone great prosecution- me included! But I believe in two things: 1. The truth 2. God vindicates After all is said and done, and when one is no longer in the position, those who fight you realise that indeed you were passionate and selfless- and they find that you leave a huge gap. They probably will never tell you to your face ( I know that from my experience) but deep down they know the truth. I know how hurtful it feels when you have given your all but others come to slander and spoil. But that is not your battle as long as you know you walked the clean path. Do your part, let God do His part. All the best. Regards, Gilda ----- Original Message ----- From: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: <godera@skyweb.co.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem.
Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on the locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource.
With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law.
After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers.
This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in the Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country.
We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility.
What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something that has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes.
KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that they question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country.
Ndemo.
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Gilda, Well said, and Daktari WELL DONE! Kept it up, and your reward is near elsewhere. In the short term it's going to be a cross you will have to carry. The job you do is not for the faint hearted. Courage be with you, as God is before you. Njeri Rionge Sent from my iPhone On 9 Aug 2012, at 11:13, "Gilda Odera" <godera@skyweb.co.ke> wrote:
Ndemo,
We all know your passion for this industry. My experience in the industry is that those who have acted selflessly to pursue the growth and development of the industry have undergone great prosecution- me included! But I believe in two things:
1. The truth 2. God vindicates
After all is said and done, and when one is no longer in the position, those who fight you realise that indeed you were passionate and selfless- and they find that you leave a huge gap. They probably will never tell you to your face ( I know that from my experience) but deep down they know the truth. I know how hurtful it feels when you have given your all but others come to slander and spoil. But that is not your battle as long as you know you walked the clean path. Do your part, let God do His part. All the best.
Regards,
Gilda ----- Original Message ----- From: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: <godera@skyweb.co.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem.
Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on the locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource.
With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law.
After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers.
This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in the Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country.
We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility.
What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something that has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes.
KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that they question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country.
Ndemo.
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Sorry, I mean "persecution" not "prosecution" in my email below. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gilda Odera" <godera@skyweb.co.ke> To: <godera@skyweb.co.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Ndemo,
We all know your passion for this industry. My experience in the industry is that those who have acted selflessly to pursue the growth and development of the industry have undergone great prosecution- me included! But I believe in two things:
1. The truth 2. God vindicates
After all is said and done, and when one is no longer in the position, those who fight you realise that indeed you were passionate and selfless- and they find that you leave a huge gap. They probably will never tell you to your face ( I know that from my experience) but deep down they know the truth. I know how hurtful it feels when you have given your all but others come to slander and spoil. But that is not your battle as long as you know you walked the clean path. Do your part, let God do His part. All the best.
Regards,
Gilda ----- Original Message ----- From: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: <godera@skyweb.co.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem.
Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on the locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource.
With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law.
After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers.
This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in the Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country.
We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility.
What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something that has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes.
KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that they question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country.
Ndemo.
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Bwana Ndemo, I hear you. Like Gilda says, the truth can never be manipulated. The Truth stands the test of time. What is not clear in the various articles is a succinct summary of what you're being accused of, why? (facts and figures) and what they propose as the way out? to cancel Konza? The media should also respond and explain the timing of the article, why now? If Konza was not going forward why is the whole govt even at the highest level involved in "shuttle diplomacy" (if I can call it that) to promote Konza at the international level and even allow the investment conference to go ahead. I believe the investment conference was opened by the President? (not in country so wouldn't know). My point, I'm not getting the motivation for this. Edith ________________________________________ From: kictanet [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Gilda Odera [godera@skyweb.co.ke] Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 11:43 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue Sorry, I mean "persecution" not "prosecution" in my email below. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gilda Odera" <godera@skyweb.co.ke> To: <godera@skyweb.co.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Ndemo,
We all know your passion for this industry. My experience in the industry is that those who have acted selflessly to pursue the growth and development of the industry have undergone great prosecution- me included! But I believe in two things:
1. The truth 2. God vindicates
After all is said and done, and when one is no longer in the position, those who fight you realise that indeed you were passionate and selfless- and they find that you leave a huge gap. They probably will never tell you to your face ( I know that from my experience) but deep down they know the truth. I know how hurtful it feels when you have given your all but others come to slander and spoil. But that is not your battle as long as you know you walked the clean path. Do your part, let God do His part. All the best.
Regards,
Gilda ----- Original Message ----- From: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: <godera@skyweb.co.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem.
Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on the locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource.
With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law.
After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers.
This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in the Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country.
We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility.
What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something that has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes.
KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that they question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country.
Ndemo.
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I join colleagues in defending our PS on this matter. Any transformational project will have its doubters, some buoyed by (and eager to emphasise) any risks that have been taken to achieve the goal. A few years ago I remember the PS took risks in the best interests of the country to introduce MPESA with the critics pointing out correctly that it was illegal, against the banking Act, etc. However before they could rush to court Kenyans discovered they could not live without the new tool and the doubters gave up and joined the bandwagon. On Thu, Aug 9, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Edith Adera wrote:
Bwana Ndemo,
I hear you.
Like Gilda says, the truth can never be manipulated. The Truth stands the test of time.
What is not clear in the various articles is a succinct summary of what you're being accused of, why? (facts and figures) and what they propose as the way out? to cancel Konza?
The media should also respond and explain the timing of the article, why now? If Konza was not going forward why is the whole govt even at the highest level involved in "shuttle diplomacy" (if I can call it that) to promote Konza at the international level and even allow the investment conference to go ahead. I believe the investment conference was opened by the President? (not in country so wouldn't know).
My point, I'm not getting the motivation for this.
Edith ________________________________________ From: kictanet [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Gilda Odera [godera@skyweb.co.ke] Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 11:43 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Sorry, I mean "persecution" not "prosecution" in my email below. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gilda Odera" <godera@skyweb.co.ke> To: <godera@skyweb.co.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Ndemo,
We all know your passion for this industry. My experience in the industry is that those who have acted selflessly to pursue the growth and development of the industry have undergone great prosecution- me included! But I believe in two things:
1. The truth 2. God vindicates
After all is said and done, and when one is no longer in the position, those who fight you realise that indeed you were passionate and selfless- and they find that you leave a huge gap. They probably will never tell you to your face ( I know that from my experience) but deep down they know the truth. I know how hurtful it feels when you have given your all but others come to slander and spoil. But that is not your battle as long as you know you walked the clean path. Do your part, let God do His part. All the best.
Regards,
Gilda ----- Original Message ----- From: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: <godera@skyweb.co.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem.
Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on the locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource.
With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law.
After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers.
This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in the Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country.
We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility.
What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something that has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes.
KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that they question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country.
Ndemo.
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Daktari, do not lose focus on this grandiose project that will benefit generations of Kenyans in the future. We have seen this kind of shenanigans for too long in this country where no tender of such amounts can be awarded without the operatives claiming their 10%. Well they missed out on this and they will want to besmirch your name, stand first Daktari. On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 1:04 PM, waudo siganga <emailsignet@mailcan.com>wrote:
I join colleagues in defending our PS on this matter. Any transformational project will have its doubters, some buoyed by (and eager to emphasise) any risks that have been taken to achieve the goal. A few years ago I remember the PS took risks in the best interests of the country to introduce MPESA with the critics pointing out correctly that it was illegal, against the banking Act, etc. However before they could rush to court Kenyans discovered they could not live without the new tool and the doubters gave up and joined the bandwagon.
Bwana Ndemo,
I hear you.
Like Gilda says, the truth can never be manipulated. The Truth stands the test of time.
What is not clear in the various articles is a succinct summary of what you're being accused of, why? (facts and figures) and what they propose as the way out? to cancel Konza?
The media should also respond and explain the timing of the article, why now? If Konza was not going forward why is the whole govt even at the highest level involved in "shuttle diplomacy" (if I can call it that) to promote Konza at the international level and even allow the investment conference to go ahead. I believe the investment conference was opened by the President? (not in country so wouldn't know).
My point, I'm not getting the motivation for this.
Edith ________________________________________ From: kictanet [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Gilda Odera [godera@skyweb.co.ke] Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 11:43 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Sorry, I mean "persecution" not "prosecution" in my email below. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gilda Odera" <godera@skyweb.co.ke> To: <godera@skyweb.co.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Ndemo,
We all know your passion for this industry. My experience in the industry is that those who have acted selflessly to pursue the growth and development of the industry have undergone great prosecution- me included! But I believe in two things:
1. The truth 2. God vindicates
After all is said and done, and when one is no longer in the position, those who fight you realise that indeed you were passionate and selfless- and they find that you leave a huge gap. They probably will never tell you to your face ( I know that from my experience) but deep down they know
truth. I know how hurtful it feels when you have given your all but others come to slander and spoil. But that is not your battle as long as you know you walked the clean path. Do your part, let God do His part. All the best.
Regards,
Gilda ----- Original Message ----- From: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: <godera@skyweb.co.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem.
Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on
locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource.
With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law.
After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers.
This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in
Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country.
We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility.
What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something
has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes.
KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that
question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country.
Ndemo.
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Bwana Ndemo,
I hear you.
Like Gilda says, the truth can never be manipulated. The Truth stands the test of time.
What is not clear in the various articles is a succinct summary of what you're being accused of, why? (facts and figures) and what they propose as the way out? to cancel Konza?
The media should also respond and explain the timing of the article, why now? If Konza was not going forward why is the whole govt even at the highest level involved in "shuttle diplomacy" (if I can call it that) to promote Konza at the international level and even allow the investment conference to go ahead. I believe the investment conference was opened by the President? (not in country so wouldn't know).
My point, I'm not getting the motivation for this.
Edith ________________________________________ From: kictanet [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Gilda Odera [godera@skyweb.co.ke] Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 11:43 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Sorry, I mean "persecution" not "prosecution" in my email below. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gilda Odera" <godera@skyweb.co.ke> To: <godera@skyweb.co.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Ndemo,
We all know your passion for this industry. My experience in the industry is that those who have acted selflessly to pursue the growth and development of the industry have undergone great prosecution- me included! But I believe in two things:
1. The truth 2. God vindicates
After all is said and done, and when one is no longer in the position, those who fight you realise that indeed you were passionate and selfless- and they find that you leave a huge gap. They probably will never tell you to your face ( I know that from my experience) but deep down they know
truth. I know how hurtful it feels when you have given your all but others come to slander and spoil. But that is not your battle as long as you know you walked the clean path. Do your part, let God do His part. All the best.
Regards,
Gilda ----- Original Message ----- From: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: <godera@skyweb.co.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem.
Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on
locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource.
With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law.
After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers.
This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in
Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country.
We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility.
What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something
has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes.
KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that
Listers, As many have said, the timing of this article is suspect. Who stands to gain if this project does not take off? That is the selfish individual behind the article. If the Media had an issue about the project, why did they not do an investigative piece, interview Dr Ndemo and all stakeholders before publishing the article? I read malice R's Edwin From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Edward Lusega Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 1:35 PM To: Edwin Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue Daktari, do not lose focus on this grandiose project that will benefit generations of Kenyans in the future. We have seen this kind of shenanigans for too long in this country where no tender of such amounts can be awarded without the operatives claiming their 10%. Well they missed out on this and they will want to besmirch your name, stand first Daktari. On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 1:04 PM, waudo siganga <emailsignet@mailcan.com> wrote: I join colleagues in defending our PS on this matter. Any transformational project will have its doubters, some buoyed by (and eager to emphasise) any risks that have been taken to achieve the goal. A few years ago I remember the PS took risks in the best interests of the country to introduce MPESA with the critics pointing out correctly that it was illegal, against the banking Act, etc. However before they could rush to court Kenyans discovered they could not live without the new tool and the doubters gave up and joined the bandwagon. On Thu, Aug 9, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Edith Adera wrote: the the the that they
question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country.
Ndemo.
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Dakitari, et al, Whether persecution or prosecution, in my view, it sharpens your claws if your intentions are based on the improvement of the well-being of Kenyans. There is a likelihood of people trying to discredit good intent. For a long time, I have, on social media, blamed the media on most things messy around. Our journalists have become 'copy-paste' generation, which quickly googles every issue they face. If the writer, albeit, the editors at NMG took their time to research well on an issue laid on their table concerning the said article, the truth would have been known. Political machinations always win, way above professionalism, and you could have been a victim of such. I heard a certain presidential caandidate saying Thika road was improved as a conduit to the President's home, and people believed him. With such kind of 'roadside declarations' one wonders whether we can move a step ahead. Soon, as pointed onlist, the potential investors have every reason to run away, because 'Dr. Ndemo is corrupt', yet a little investigation of the matter would have changed the short-sightedness it has created. Therefore, go on with your zest because nothing can tell the truth more than lies can prevail. God will be (y)our judge, in the long-run. Solomon On 09/08/2012, Edwin Onchari <eonchari@lynxbits.com> wrote:
Listers,
As many have said, the timing of this article is suspect. Who stands to gain if this project does not take off? That is the selfish individual behind the article. If the Media had an issue about the project, why did they not do an investigative piece, interview Dr Ndemo and all stakeholders before publishing the article? I read malice
R's
Edwin
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Edward Lusega Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 1:35 PM To: Edwin Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Daktari,
do not lose focus on this grandiose project that will benefit generations of Kenyans in
the future. We have seen this kind of shenanigans for too long in this country where
no tender of such amounts can be awarded without the operatives claiming their 10%.
Well they missed out on this and they will want to besmirch your name, stand first Daktari.
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 1:04 PM, waudo siganga <emailsignet@mailcan.com> wrote:
I join colleagues in defending our PS on this matter. Any transformational project will have its doubters, some buoyed by (and eager to emphasise) any risks that have been taken to achieve the goal. A few years ago I remember the PS took risks in the best interests of the country to introduce MPESA with the critics pointing out correctly that it was illegal, against the banking Act, etc. However before they could rush to court Kenyans discovered they could not live without the new tool and the doubters gave up and joined the bandwagon.
Bwana Ndemo,
I hear you.
Like Gilda says, the truth can never be manipulated. The Truth stands the test of time.
What is not clear in the various articles is a succinct summary of what you're being accused of, why? (facts and figures) and what they propose as the way out? to cancel Konza?
The media should also respond and explain the timing of the article, why now? If Konza was not going forward why is the whole govt even at the highest level involved in "shuttle diplomacy" (if I can call it that) to promote Konza at the international level and even allow the investment conference to go ahead. I believe the investment conference was opened by the President? (not in country so wouldn't know).
My point, I'm not getting the motivation for this.
Edith ________________________________________ From: kictanet [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Gilda Odera [godera@skyweb.co.ke] Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 11:43 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Sorry, I mean "persecution" not "prosecution" in my email below. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gilda Odera" <godera@skyweb.co.ke> To: <godera@skyweb.co.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Ndemo,
We all know your passion for this industry. My experience in the industry is that those who have acted selflessly to pursue the growth and development of the industry have undergone great prosecution- me included! But I believe in two things:
1. The truth 2. God vindicates
After all is said and done, and when one is no longer in the position, those who fight you realise that indeed you were passionate and selfless- and they find that you leave a huge gap. They probably will never tell you to your face ( I know that from my experience) but deep down they know
truth. I know how hurtful it feels when you have given your all but others come to slander and spoil. But that is not your battle as long as you know you walked the clean path. Do your part, let God do His part. All the best.
Regards,
Gilda ----- Original Message ----- From: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: <godera@skyweb.co.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem.
Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on
locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource.
With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law.
After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers.
This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in
Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country.
We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility.
What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something
has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes.
KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Edith Adera wrote: the the the that they
question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country.
Ndemo.
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Daktari, The US started lecturing us on "good manners" and hoe Operation Linda Nchi was done without them knowing... Then there was the case of "illegal importation of weapons" a.k.a Mv Faina saga, conviniently when our military procurements took a tangent eastwards... Then again the Issue of one Rwandese fugitive exposee just when eyes were focused on the real perpetrators... Or the Kenya buys Junk fighters from jordan the list goes on and on and on... Moral of the story being, "Those people" will spoon feed "These people" with "News" at any time, in any way to achieve their ends... All i read in that story is vested interest... if you follow breadcrumbs youll find someone interested in something... looking for some outcome... My Only word of advice.... Kaa Ngumu, and ... Be the Lizard that Jumped off the Iroko tree.... On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Edwin Onchari <eonchari@lynxbits.com> wrote:
Listers,****
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As many have said, the timing of this article is suspect. Who stands to gain if this project does not take off? That is the selfish individual behind the article. If the Media had an issue about the project, why did they not do an investigative piece, interview Dr Ndemo and all stakeholders before publishing the article? I read malice****
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*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari= lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Edward Lusega *Sent:* Thursday, August 09, 2012 1:35 PM *To:* Edwin
*Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue****
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Daktari,****
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do not lose focus on this grandiose project that will benefit generations of Kenyans in ****
the future. We have seen this kind of shenanigans for too long in this country where****
no tender of such amounts can be awarded without the operatives claiming their 10%.****
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Well they missed out on this and they will want to besmirch your name, stand first Daktari.****
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On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 1:04 PM, waudo siganga <emailsignet@mailcan.com> wrote:****
I join colleagues in defending our PS on this matter. Any transformational project will have its doubters, some buoyed by (and eager to emphasise) any risks that have been taken to achieve the goal. A few years ago I remember the PS took risks in the best interests of the country to introduce MPESA with the critics pointing out correctly that it was illegal, against the banking Act, etc. However before they could rush to court Kenyans discovered they could not live without the new tool and the doubters gave up and joined the bandwagon.****
Bwana Ndemo,
I hear you.
Like Gilda says, the truth can never be manipulated. The Truth stands the test of time.
What is not clear in the various articles is a succinct summary of what you're being accused of, why? (facts and figures) and what they propose as the way out? to cancel Konza?
The media should also respond and explain the timing of the article, why now? If Konza was not going forward why is the whole govt even at the highest level involved in "shuttle diplomacy" (if I can call it that) to promote Konza at the international level and even allow the investment conference to go ahead. I believe the investment conference was opened by the President? (not in country so wouldn't know).
My point, I'm not getting the motivation for this.
Edith ________________________________________ From: kictanet [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Gilda Odera [godera@skyweb.co.ke] Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 11:43 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Sorry, I mean "persecution" not "prosecution" in my email below. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gilda Odera" <godera@skyweb.co.ke> To: <godera@skyweb.co.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Ndemo,
We all know your passion for this industry. My experience in the industry is that those who have acted selflessly to pursue the growth and development of the industry have undergone great prosecution- me included! But I believe in two things:
1. The truth 2. God vindicates
After all is said and done, and when one is no longer in the position, those who fight you realise that indeed you were passionate and selfless- and they find that you leave a huge gap. They probably will never tell you to your face ( I know that from my experience) but deep down they know
truth. I know how hurtful it feels when you have given your all but others come to slander and spoil. But that is not your battle as long as you know you walked the clean path. Do your part, let God do His part. All the best.
Regards,
Gilda ----- Original Message ----- From: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: <godera@skyweb.co.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem.
Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on
locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource.
With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law.
After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers.
This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in
Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country.
We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility.
What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something
has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes.
KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that
question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country.
Ndemo.
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Gilda, I agree. We seem to like (sometimes quite hysterically) pointing the accusatory finger towards those who have the courage to take risks on our behalf, seems to have become the central tenet of our politics and media focus. Recall similar discussions with the TEAMs initiative and if we had become detracted, we would not have moved. We must not allow ourselves to become a source of unsolvable problems. Best Alice On 09/08/2012 11:13, Gilda Odera wrote:
Ndemo,
We all know your passion for this industry. My experience in the industry is that those who have acted selflessly to pursue the growth and development of the industry have undergone great prosecution- me included! But I believe in two things:
1. The truth 2. God vindicates
After all is said and done, and when one is no longer in the position, those who fight you realise that indeed you were passionate and selfless- and they find that you leave a huge gap. They probably will never tell you to your face ( I know that from my experience) but deep down they know the truth. I know how hurtful it feels when you have given your all but others come to slander and spoil. But that is not your battle as long as you know you walked the clean path. Do your part, let God do His part. All the best.
Regards,
Gilda ----- Original Message ----- From: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: <godera@skyweb.co.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem.
Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on the locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource.
With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law.
After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers.
This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in the Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country.
We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility.
What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something that has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes.
KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that they question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country.
Ndemo.
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Dear Dr. Ndemo, It always amazes me how we succeed to shoot ourselves in the foot. We cut our nose to spite our face. Kenyans when shall we wake up and leave petty issues aside for the good of the country? To see the big picture and avoid the side shows. Very sad indeed. Sammy -----Original Message----- From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+buruchara=mac.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of bitange@jambo.co.ke Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 8:43 AM To: buruchara@mac.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem. Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on the locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource. With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law. After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers. This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in the Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country. We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility. What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something that has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes. KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that they question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country. Ndemo. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/buruchara%40mac.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Really sad! I wonder what the Media (Nation in this case) have to say on this, especially on their motivation for this and their timing of article. It has a bad taste. As others have said, Dr. Ndemo, Truth will always vindicate, in due course. It is best to encourage you press on. Cleophas On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Sammy Buruchara <buruchara@me.com> wrote:
Dear Dr. Ndemo, It always amazes me how we succeed to shoot ourselves in the foot. We cut our nose to spite our face.
Kenyans when shall we wake up and leave petty issues aside for the good of the country? To see the big picture and avoid the side shows.
Very sad indeed.
Sammy
-----Original Message----- From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+buruchara=mac.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of bitange@jambo.co.ke Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 8:43 AM To: buruchara@mac.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem.
Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on the locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource.
With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law.
After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers.
This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in the Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country.
We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility.
What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something that has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes.
KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that they question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country.
Ndemo.
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Dr. Ndemo, Sorry for being the bearer of the truth but unfortunately hang you shall hang as you neither own the judge nor the jury and the hang man takes no sides. Online rhetoric and closed group support will not save you, what you needed from the beginning was support from a constituency with a platform, sad to see Siganga give leap service to your plight yet he runs the only bona fide mouth piece which should have taken out a full page advert in today's paper in support of your efforts if only your online supporters had paid their subscriptions. I raised pertinent issues about the project right from its public inception and took the heat, even taking on the title "village madman". This is one time that I wish not to be exonerated as you have worked selflessly on the project, unfortunately in a utopian manner. Those who want the project dead have more power than those, like yourself, who want it to succeed. I recently attended a presentation by the Ministry of Nairobi Metropolitan whose master plan includes a 5,000 acre technopolis to be situated along Kangundo Road. It takes the Konza project concept and spreads it over 6 locations around Nairobi each covering 5,000 acres. The land has been identified and the sellers have the right connections. Find our why the Tatu Project remains in limbo then you will understand why Dr. Ndemo has only 2 options, drop the project and stay afloat or push on with it and go down with it. Dr. Ndemo, we cannot help you as we are merely hecklers sitting outside the stadium and following the goings on in the pitch through the radio commentator because we fear to take a public stand. Your fall will be a very public one utilising the space you have so eloquently advocated and propagated, an independent media. It is time that you put together a war council to go to battle with and for you, whose members are clearly not on this forum. I wish you all the best in surviving this onslaught and hope that you had followed my finger that kept trying to point you towards the writing on the wall. As the late Vice President Kijana Wamalwa once said "I found myself wallowing in the miasma of deceit . . ." Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 --- On Thu, 9/8/12, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: From: bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, 9 August, 2012, 6:43 Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem. Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on the locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource. With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law. After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers. This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in the Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country. We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility. What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something that has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes. KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that they question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country. 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Robert, An interesting view! Is it right to say we cannot help? I would imagine that we need to make that move to help. Also, will the accused be the one to help himself in this instance or should we be the ones to initiate the task force that would defend a good cause from being killed OR are you saying the "interested" parties are just too powerful? Regards From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of robert yawe Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 9:20 PM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue Dr. Ndemo, Sorry for being the bearer of the truth but unfortunately hang you shall hang as you neither own the judge nor the jury and the hang man takes no sides. Online rhetoric and closed group support will not save you, what you needed from the beginning was support from a constituency with a platform, sad to see Siganga give leap service to your plight yet he runs the only bona fide mouth piece which should have taken out a full page advert in today's paper in support of your efforts if only your online supporters had paid their subscriptions. I raised pertinent issues about the project right from its public inception and took the heat, even taking on the title "village madman". This is one time that I wish not to be exonerated as you have worked selflessly on the project, unfortunately in a utopian manner. Those who want the project dead have more power than those, like yourself, who want it to succeed. I recently attended a presentation by the Ministry of Nairobi Metropolitan whose master plan includes a 5,000 acre technopolis to be situated along Kangundo Road. It takes the Konza project concept and spreads it over 6 locations around Nairobi each covering 5,000 acres. The land has been identified and the sellers have the right connections. Find our why the Tatu Project remains in limbo then you will understand why Dr. Ndemo has only 2 options, drop the project and stay afloat or push on with it and go down with it. Dr. Ndemo, we cannot help you as we are merely hecklers sitting outside the stadium and following the goings on in the pitch through the radio commentator because we fear to take a public stand. Your fall will be a very public one utilising the space you have so eloquently advocated and propagated, an independent media. It is time that you put together a war council to go to battle with and for you, whose members are clearly not on this forum. I wish you all the best in surviving this onslaught and hope that you had followed my finger that kept trying to point you towards the writing on the wall. As the late Vice President Kijana Wamalwa once said "I found myself wallowing in the miasma of deceit . . ." Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 --- On Thu, 9/8/12, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: From: bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, 9 August, 2012, 6:43 Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem. Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on the locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource. With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law. After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers. This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in the Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country. We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility. What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something that has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes. KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that they question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country. Ndemo. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40yahoo.co. uk The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Hi Bernard, What we need to do first and foremost is to define who "we" is otherwise we are individuals yelling in the wilderness. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 --- On Fri, 10/8/12, Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Interactive Limited] <bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote: From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Interactive Limited] <bkioko@bernsoft.com> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue To: "'robert yawe'" <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: "'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, 10 August, 2012, 1:27 Robert, An interesting view! Is it right to say we cannot help? I would imagine that we need to make that move to help. Also, will the accused be the one to help himself in this instance or should we be the ones to initiate the task force that would defend a good cause from being killed OR are you saying the “interested” parties are just too powerful? Regards From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of robert yawe Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 9:20 PM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue Dr. Ndemo, Sorry for being the bearer of the truth but unfortunately hang you shall hang as you neither own the judge nor the jury and the hang man takes no sides. Online rhetoric and closed group support will not save you, what you needed from the beginning was support from a constituency with a platform, sad to see Siganga give leap service to your plight yet he runs the only bona fide mouth piece which should have taken out a full page advert in today's paper in support of your efforts if only your online supporters had paid their subscriptions. I raised pertinent issues about the project right from its public inception and took the heat, even taking on the title "village madman". This is one time that I wish not to be exonerated as you have worked selflessly on the project, unfortunately in a utopian manner. Those who want the project dead have more power than those, like yourself, who want it to succeed. I recently attended a presentation by the Ministry of Nairobi Metropolitan whose master plan includes a 5,000 acre technopolis to be situated along Kangundo Road. It takes the Konza project concept and spreads it over 6 locations around Nairobi each covering 5,000 acres. The land has been identified and the sellers have the right connections. Find our why the Tatu Project remains in limbo then you will understand why Dr. Ndemo has only 2 options, drop the project and stay afloat or push on with it and go down with it. Dr. Ndemo, we cannot help you as we are merely hecklers sitting outside the stadium and following the goings on in the pitch through the radio commentator because we fear to take a public stand. Your fall will be a very public one utilising the space you have so eloquently advocated and propagated, an independent media. It is time that you put together a war council to go to battle with and for you, whose members are clearly not on this forum. I wish you all the best in surviving this onslaught and hope that you had followed my finger that kept trying to point you towards the writing on the wall. As the late Vice President Kijana Wamalwa once said "I found myself wallowing in the miasma of deceit . . ." Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 --- On Thu, 9/8/12, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: From: bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, 9 August, 2012, 6:43 Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem. Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on the locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource. With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law. After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers. This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in the Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country. We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility. What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something that has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes. KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that they question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country. Ndemo. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40yahoo.co.... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
In my 3 years working in government I am yet to work with (or come across) anyone who works as hard and as selflessly for Kenyans as Bitange Ndemo. We need more outside the box, courageous and big thinkers for Kenya in the mould of Dr. Ndemo. You have made believers of so many in govt who themselves have found motivation in your infectious love for (and belief in) Kenya. You made me believe we could get Vision 2030 done. Your reputation and name are bigger than any media story or agency. Indeed you've been down this path before with TEAMS and prevailed to the great benefit of Kenyans! I, for one, am firmly in your corner and I can hardly think of anyone else I would so confidently vouch for. Mugo Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: bitange@jambo.co.ke Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 08:43:10 To: Mugo Kibati<mugo@vision2030.go.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem. Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on the locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource. With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law. After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers. This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in the Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country. We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility. What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something that has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes. KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that they question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country. Ndemo. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/mugo%40vision2030.go.k... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Well summed up... as they say "don't sweat the small stuff" Bwana Ndemo. Soldier on..... Edith ________________________________________ From: kictanet [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of mugo@vision2030.go.ke [mugo@vision2030.go.ke] Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 1:02 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue In my 3 years working in government I am yet to work with (or come across) anyone who works as hard and as selflessly for Kenyans as Bitange Ndemo. We need more outside the box, courageous and big thinkers for Kenya in the mould of Dr. Ndemo. You have made believers of so many in govt who themselves have found motivation in your infectious love for (and belief in) Kenya. You made me believe we could get Vision 2030 done. Your reputation and name are bigger than any media story or agency. Indeed you've been down this path before with TEAMS and prevailed to the great benefit of Kenyans! I, for one, am firmly in your corner and I can hardly think of anyone else I would so confidently vouch for. Mugo Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: bitange@jambo.co.ke Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 08:43:10 To: Mugo Kibati<mugo@vision2030.go.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem. Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on the locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource. With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law. After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers. This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in the Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country. We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility. What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something that has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes. KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that they question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country. Ndemo. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/mugo%40vision2030.go.k... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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Bwana Mugo, You have said it for most of us. Daktari, At the end, Kenyans will celebrate your tireless effort as we benefit from the same and the media will write about that celebration. I guess the other way to see it is newspapers have to sell and radio/tv stations are dying to increase their ratings. For them its business at whatever cost. For you in the government, you are doing your role in the best way possible. I wish we would single out and encourage people who this hard in this country. They should have run a profile on you and your efforts in previous projects. Regards -----Original Message----- From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of mugo@vision2030.go.ke Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 1:03 AM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue In my 3 years working in government I am yet to work with (or come across) anyone who works as hard and as selflessly for Kenyans as Bitange Ndemo. We need more outside the box, courageous and big thinkers for Kenya in the mould of Dr. Ndemo. You have made believers of so many in govt who themselves have found motivation in your infectious love for (and belief in) Kenya. You made me believe we could get Vision 2030 done. Your reputation and name are bigger than any media story or agency. Indeed you've been down this path before with TEAMS and prevailed to the great benefit of Kenyans! I, for one, am firmly in your corner and I can hardly think of anyone else I would so confidently vouch for. Mugo Sent from my BlackBerryR -----Original Message----- From: bitange@jambo.co.ke Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 08:43:10 To: Mugo Kibati<mugo@vision2030.go.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem. Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on the locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource. With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law. After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers. This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in the Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country. We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility. What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something that has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes. KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that they question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country. Ndemo. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/mugo%40vision2030.go.k e The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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Daktari, Thank you for taking this bold step to shed pure light on the Konza Techno city site. It is truly unfortunate that the media persist in casting aspersions and (allowing themselves to be used for) mudslinging. I recall, with clarity, how the print media (and especially Nation) were used during the early stages of TEAMs to try and discredit and bring disrepute to the project, yourself and others who were involved. It was laughable at the time how the newspaper even went as far as making rabid claims that I was fronting for powerful politicians via my company InHand Ltd which had procedurally applied for, and received an allocation in the project. I recall how many times the Anti-corruption commission carried out investigations, and I also recall having to answer a barrage of questions from the good folk at National Intelligence. All because of flimsy lies pushed through the newspapers by unscrupulous journalists who clearly had received the infamous "brown envelope" payoffs to publish dirt. Needless to say - and as has been pointed out by Mugo. TEAMs survived the negativity and today has totally transformed this country and region. While I know that it is personally tiring, draining and very demoralizing to be a victim of this kind of treatment. Let me add my voice to those who say "Usichoke" - please stay strong, keep the vision, and hold the course. The Konza City project is still at a critical stage that needs your drive and support. Once it gains it's own momentum then you can take a well deserved rest, until then let us all put our shoulders behind this project and push it forward. Best regards, Brian [image: logo] *Brian Munyao Longwe* | Mobile: 254715964281 http://mashilingi.blogspot.com <http://www.facebook.com/brianmunyao> Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/brianmunyao> <http://www.twitter.com/blongwe> Twitter <http://www.twitter.com/blongwe> <http://ke.linkedin.com/pub/brian-munyao-longwe/0/32/254> LinkedIn<http://ke.linkedin.com/pub/brian-munyao-longwe/0/32/254> Contact me: [image: Skype] blongwe Want a signature like mine? <http://r1.wisestamp.com/r/landing?promo=16&dest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisestamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_16> Click here.<http://r1.wisestamp.com/r/landing?promo=16&dest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisestamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_16> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:43 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem.
Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on the locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource.
With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law.
After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers.
This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in the Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country.
We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility.
What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something that has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes.
KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that they question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country.
Ndemo.
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Daktari Let me add my voice of support on this. There's a saying that one of the most vulnerable moments in aviation is when a plane is taking off and about to land. That's where I think Konza Techno City is. We must all in any way we can continue to support this model of progress in Africa. Daktari, having said that you didn't really think that it was going to be easy right? The forces of darkness and quick bucks will not let it be unless they have their pound of flesh. Unfortunately the same tools that progressive forces use to move their agenda are the same tools available for the forces of retrogression. This country has turned the corner for the better. The rule of law actually has a chance to thrive. Hang in there..And as the good bible says - The truth shall set you free! Ali Hussein +254 773/713 601113 Sent from my iPhone® On Aug 10, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
Daktari,
Thank you for taking this bold step to shed pure light on the Konza Techno city site. It is truly unfortunate that the media persist in casting aspersions and (allowing themselves to be used for) mudslinging.
I recall, with clarity, how the print media (and especially Nation) were used during the early stages of TEAMs to try and discredit and bring disrepute to the project, yourself and others who were involved. It was laughable at the time how the newspaper even went as far as making rabid claims that I was fronting for powerful politicians via my company InHand Ltd which had procedurally applied for, and received an allocation in the project. I recall how many times the Anti-corruption commission carried out investigations, and I also recall having to answer a barrage of questions from the good folk at National Intelligence. All because of flimsy lies pushed through the newspapers by unscrupulous journalists who clearly had received the infamous "brown envelope" payoffs to publish dirt.
Needless to say - and as has been pointed out by Mugo. TEAMs survived the negativity and today has totally transformed this country and region. While I know that it is personally tiring, draining and very demoralizing to be a victim of this kind of treatment. Let me add my voice to those who say "Usichoke" - please stay strong, keep the vision, and hold the course. The Konza City project is still at a critical stage that needs your drive and support. Once it gains it's own momentum then you can take a well deserved rest, until then let us all put our shoulders behind this project and push it forward.
Best regards,
Brian
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On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:43 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem.
Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on the locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource.
With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law.
After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers.
This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in the Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country.
We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility.
What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something that has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes.
KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that they question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country.
Ndemo.
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Bwana Ndemo, et al The many of us in support may not be individually as powerful as the few 'powerful' forces against you. That said, our combined support will be too strong to wish away for any 'evil' force. Just tell us when and how to engage ... On Aug 10, 2012 10:17 AM, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Daktari
Let me add my voice of support on this.
There's a saying that one of the most vulnerable moments in aviation is when a plane is taking off and about to land. That's where I think Konza Techno City is. We must all in any way we can continue to support this model of progress in Africa.
Daktari, having said that you didn't really think that it was going to be easy right? The forces of darkness and quick bucks will not let it be unless they have their pound of flesh. Unfortunately the same tools that progressive forces use to move their agenda are the same tools available for the forces of retrogression.
This country has turned the corner for the better. The rule of law actually has a chance to thrive. Hang in there..And as the good bible says - The truth shall set you free!
Ali Hussein
+254 773/713 601113
Sent from my iPhone®
On Aug 10, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
Daktari,
Thank you for taking this bold step to shed pure light on the Konza Techno city site. It is truly unfortunate that the media persist in casting aspersions and (allowing themselves to be used for) mudslinging.
I recall, with clarity, how the print media (and especially Nation) were used during the early stages of TEAMs to try and discredit and bring disrepute to the project, yourself and others who were involved. It was laughable at the time how the newspaper even went as far as making rabid claims that I was fronting for powerful politicians via my company InHand Ltd which had procedurally applied for, and received an allocation in the project. I recall how many times the Anti-corruption commission carried out investigations, and I also recall having to answer a barrage of questions from the good folk at National Intelligence. All because of flimsy lies pushed through the newspapers by unscrupulous journalists who clearly had received the infamous "brown envelope" payoffs to publish dirt.
Needless to say - and as has been pointed out by Mugo. TEAMs survived the negativity and today has totally transformed this country and region. While I know that it is personally tiring, draining and very demoralizing to be a victim of this kind of treatment. Let me add my voice to those who say "Usichoke" - please stay strong, keep the vision, and hold the course. The Konza City project is still at a critical stage that needs your drive and support. Once it gains it's own momentum then you can take a well deserved rest, until then let us all put our shoulders behind this project and push it forward.
Best regards,
Brian
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On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:43 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem.
Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on the locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource.
With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law.
After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers.
This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in the Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country.
We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility.
What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something that has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes.
KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that they question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country.
Ndemo.
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Dear Daktari Ndemo I am really sorry this has happened to you. As I said to one of my coworkers, if every permanent secretary were like Bitange Ndemo, Kenya would be in good shape politically and economically. I join my colleagues in extending my support and loyalty. Sincerely, Warigia On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:56 AM, John Kieti <jkieti@gmail.com> wrote:
Bwana Ndemo, et al
The many of us in support may not be individually as powerful as the few 'powerful' forces against you. That said, our combined support will be too strong to wish away for any 'evil' force.
Just tell us when and how to engage ... On Aug 10, 2012 10:17 AM, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Daktari
Let me add my voice of support on this.
There's a saying that one of the most vulnerable moments in aviation is when a plane is taking off and about to land. That's where I think Konza Techno City is. We must all in any way we can continue to support this model of progress in Africa.
Daktari, having said that you didn't really think that it was going to be easy right? The forces of darkness and quick bucks will not let it be unless they have their pound of flesh. Unfortunately the same tools that progressive forces use to move their agenda are the same tools available for the forces of retrogression.
This country has turned the corner for the better. The rule of law actually has a chance to thrive. Hang in there..And as the good bible says - The truth shall set you free!
Ali Hussein
+254 773/713 601113
Sent from my iPhone®
On Aug 10, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
Daktari,
Thank you for taking this bold step to shed pure light on the Konza Techno city site. It is truly unfortunate that the media persist in casting aspersions and (allowing themselves to be used for) mudslinging.
I recall, with clarity, how the print media (and especially Nation) were used during the early stages of TEAMs to try and discredit and bring disrepute to the project, yourself and others who were involved. It was laughable at the time how the newspaper even went as far as making rabid claims that I was fronting for powerful politicians via my company InHand Ltd which had procedurally applied for, and received an allocation in the project. I recall how many times the Anti-corruption commission carried out investigations, and I also recall having to answer a barrage of questions from the good folk at National Intelligence. All because of flimsy lies pushed through the newspapers by unscrupulous journalists who clearly had received the infamous "brown envelope" payoffs to publish dirt.
Needless to say - and as has been pointed out by Mugo. TEAMs survived the negativity and today has totally transformed this country and region. While I know that it is personally tiring, draining and very demoralizing to be a victim of this kind of treatment. Let me add my voice to those who say "Usichoke" - please stay strong, keep the vision, and hold the course. The Konza City project is still at a critical stage that needs your drive and support. Once it gains it's own momentum then you can take a well deserved rest, until then let us all put our shoulders behind this project and push it forward.
Best regards,
Brian
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On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:43 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem.
Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on the locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource.
With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law.
After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers.
This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in the Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country.
We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility.
What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something that has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes.
KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that they question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country.
Ndemo.
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Warigia, while I echo your sentiments in support of PS Ndemo, the activist in me is wondering why we can't do more... For example I nominate Chief Matunda to draft an "Oped" in rebuttal based on PS Ndemo's piece and the supporting posts to be signed by the KICTAnet Community and Vision 2020, and any other entities.. Ali not to pick on you, but I believe Warigia and I are over the seas so would you be willing to act as the treasurer and all supporters can MPESA you their donations for an "AD buy" for the Konza Rebuttal... Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message:
From: Warigia Bowman <warigia@gmail.com> Date: August 11, 2012 10:31:08 AM EDT To: lkimani@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Dear Daktari Ndemo
I am really sorry this has happened to you. As I said to one of my coworkers, if every permanent secretary were like Bitange Ndemo, Kenya would be in good shape politically and economically.
I join my colleagues in extending my support and loyalty.
Sincerely, Warigia
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:56 AM, John Kieti <jkieti@gmail.com> wrote: Bwana Ndemo, et al
The many of us in support may not be individually as powerful as the few 'powerful' forces against you. That said, our combined support will be too strong to wish away for any 'evil' force.
Just tell us when and how to engage ...
On Aug 10, 2012 10:17 AM, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Daktari
Let me add my voice of support on this.
There's a saying that one of the most vulnerable moments in aviation is when a plane is taking off and about to land. That's where I think Konza Techno City is. We must all in any way we can continue to support this model of progress in Africa.
Daktari, having said that you didn't really think that it was going to be easy right? The forces of darkness and quick bucks will not let it be unless they have their pound of flesh. Unfortunately the same tools that progressive forces use to move their agenda are the same tools available for the forces of retrogression.
This country has turned the corner for the better. The rule of law actually has a chance to thrive. Hang in there..And as the good bible says - The truth shall set you free!
Ali Hussein
+254 773/713 601113
Sent from my iPhone®
On Aug 10, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
Daktari,
Thank you for taking this bold step to shed pure light on the Konza Techno city site. It is truly unfortunate that the media persist in casting aspersions and (allowing themselves to be used for) mudslinging.
I recall, with clarity, how the print media (and especially Nation) were used during the early stages of TEAMs to try and discredit and bring disrepute to the project, yourself and others who were involved. It was laughable at the time how the newspaper even went as far as making rabid claims that I was fronting for powerful politicians via my company InHand Ltd which had procedurally applied for, and received an allocation in the project. I recall how many times the Anti-corruption commission carried out investigations, and I also recall having to answer a barrage of questions from the good folk at National Intelligence. All because of flimsy lies pushed through the newspapers by unscrupulous journalists who clearly had received the infamous "brown envelope" payoffs to publish dirt.
Needless to say - and as has been pointed out by Mugo. TEAMs survived the negativity and today has totally transformed this country and region. While I know that it is personally tiring, draining and very demoralizing to be a victim of this kind of treatment. Let me add my voice to those who say "Usichoke" - please stay strong, keep the vision, and hold the course. The Konza City project is still at a critical stage that needs your drive and support. Once it gains it's own momentum then you can take a well deserved rest, until then let us all put our shoulders behind this project and push it forward.
Best regards,
Brian
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On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:43 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem.
Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on the locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource.
With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law.
After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers.
This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in the Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country.
We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility.
What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something that has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes.
KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that they question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country.
Ndemo.
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Lucy Wiling and ready! Probably a good idea though to have an institution like Kictanet do that? So that there is accountability? Any which way I'm ready to support. Thanks Ali Hussein +254 773/713 601113 Sent from my iPhone® On Aug 11, 2012, at 7:52 PM, Lucy Kimani <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
Warigia, while I echo your sentiments in support of PS Ndemo, the activist in me is wondering why we can't do more... For example I nominate Chief Matunda to draft an "Oped" in rebuttal based on PS Ndemo's piece and the supporting posts to be signed by the KICTAnet Community and Vision 2020, and any other entities..
Ali not to pick on you, but I believe Warigia and I are over the seas so would you be willing to act as the treasurer and all supporters can MPESA you their donations for an "AD buy" for the Konza Rebuttal...
Sent from my iPad
Begin forwarded message:
From: Warigia Bowman <warigia@gmail.com> Date: August 11, 2012 10:31:08 AM EDT To: lkimani@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Dear Daktari Ndemo
I am really sorry this has happened to you. As I said to one of my coworkers, if every permanent secretary were like Bitange Ndemo, Kenya would be in good shape politically and economically.
I join my colleagues in extending my support and loyalty.
Sincerely, Warigia
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:56 AM, John Kieti <jkieti@gmail.com> wrote: Bwana Ndemo, et al
The many of us in support may not be individually as powerful as the few 'powerful' forces against you. That said, our combined support will be too strong to wish away for any 'evil' force.
Just tell us when and how to engage ...
On Aug 10, 2012 10:17 AM, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Daktari
Let me add my voice of support on this.
There's a saying that one of the most vulnerable moments in aviation is when a plane is taking off and about to land. That's where I think Konza Techno City is. We must all in any way we can continue to support this model of progress in Africa.
Daktari, having said that you didn't really think that it was going to be easy right? The forces of darkness and quick bucks will not let it be unless they have their pound of flesh. Unfortunately the same tools that progressive forces use to move their agenda are the same tools available for the forces of retrogression.
This country has turned the corner for the better. The rule of law actually has a chance to thrive. Hang in there..And as the good bible says - The truth shall set you free!
Ali Hussein
+254 773/713 601113
Sent from my iPhone®
On Aug 10, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
Daktari,
Thank you for taking this bold step to shed pure light on the Konza Techno city site. It is truly unfortunate that the media persist in casting aspersions and (allowing themselves to be used for) mudslinging.
I recall, with clarity, how the print media (and especially Nation) were used during the early stages of TEAMs to try and discredit and bring disrepute to the project, yourself and others who were involved. It was laughable at the time how the newspaper even went as far as making rabid claims that I was fronting for powerful politicians via my company InHand Ltd which had procedurally applied for, and received an allocation in the project. I recall how many times the Anti-corruption commission carried out investigations, and I also recall having to answer a barrage of questions from the good folk at National Intelligence. All because of flimsy lies pushed through the newspapers by unscrupulous journalists who clearly had received the infamous "brown envelope" payoffs to publish dirt.
Needless to say - and as has been pointed out by Mugo. TEAMs survived the negativity and today has totally transformed this country and region. While I know that it is personally tiring, draining and very demoralizing to be a victim of this kind of treatment. Let me add my voice to those who say "Usichoke" - please stay strong, keep the vision, and hold the course. The Konza City project is still at a critical stage that needs your drive and support. Once it gains it's own momentum then you can take a well deserved rest, until then let us all put our shoulders behind this project and push it forward.
Best regards,
Brian
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On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:43 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem.
Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on the locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource.
With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law.
After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers.
This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in the Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country.
We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility.
What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something that has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes.
KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that they question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country.
Ndemo.
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Ali, Great, I will MPESA my donation. Your point re accountability is fair and well taken, and I hope the KICTANET officials will be willing to provide us with details on how supporters of the Konza rebuttal can remit their donations. In the meantime, please collect what is sent your way and you can then submit to KICTANET if they are in agreement. Sent from my iPad On Aug 11, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Lucy
Wiling and ready! Probably a good idea though to have an institution like Kictanet do that? So that there is accountability? Any which way I'm ready to support.
Thanks
Ali Hussein
+254 773/713 601113
Sent from my iPhone®
On Aug 11, 2012, at 7:52 PM, Lucy Kimani <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
Warigia, while I echo your sentiments in support of PS Ndemo, the activist in me is wondering why we can't do more... For example I nominate Chief Matunda to draft an "Oped" in rebuttal based on PS Ndemo's piece and the supporting posts to be signed by the KICTAnet Community and Vision 2020, and any other entities..
Ali not to pick on you, but I believe Warigia and I are over the seas so would you be willing to act as the treasurer and all supporters can MPESA you their donations for an "AD buy" for the Konza Rebuttal...
Sent from my iPad
Begin forwarded message:
From: Warigia Bowman <warigia@gmail.com> Date: August 11, 2012 10:31:08 AM EDT To: lkimani@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Dear Daktari Ndemo
I am really sorry this has happened to you. As I said to one of my coworkers, if every permanent secretary were like Bitange Ndemo, Kenya would be in good shape politically and economically.
I join my colleagues in extending my support and loyalty.
Sincerely, Warigia
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:56 AM, John Kieti <jkieti@gmail.com> wrote: Bwana Ndemo, et al
The many of us in support may not be individually as powerful as the few 'powerful' forces against you. That said, our combined support will be too strong to wish away for any 'evil' force.
Just tell us when and how to engage ...
On Aug 10, 2012 10:17 AM, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Daktari
Let me add my voice of support on this.
There's a saying that one of the most vulnerable moments in aviation is when a plane is taking off and about to land. That's where I think Konza Techno City is. We must all in any way we can continue to support this model of progress in Africa.
Daktari, having said that you didn't really think that it was going to be easy right? The forces of darkness and quick bucks will not let it be unless they have their pound of flesh. Unfortunately the same tools that progressive forces use to move their agenda are the same tools available for the forces of retrogression.
This country has turned the corner for the better. The rule of law actually has a chance to thrive. Hang in there..And as the good bible says - The truth shall set you free!
Ali Hussein
+254 773/713 601113
Sent from my iPhone®
On Aug 10, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
Daktari,
Thank you for taking this bold step to shed pure light on the Konza Techno city site. It is truly unfortunate that the media persist in casting aspersions and (allowing themselves to be used for) mudslinging.
I recall, with clarity, how the print media (and especially Nation) were used during the early stages of TEAMs to try and discredit and bring disrepute to the project, yourself and others who were involved. It was laughable at the time how the newspaper even went as far as making rabid claims that I was fronting for powerful politicians via my company InHand Ltd which had procedurally applied for, and received an allocation in the project. I recall how many times the Anti-corruption commission carried out investigations, and I also recall having to answer a barrage of questions from the good folk at National Intelligence. All because of flimsy lies pushed through the newspapers by unscrupulous journalists who clearly had received the infamous "brown envelope" payoffs to publish dirt.
Needless to say - and as has been pointed out by Mugo. TEAMs survived the negativity and today has totally transformed this country and region. While I know that it is personally tiring, draining and very demoralizing to be a victim of this kind of treatment. Let me add my voice to those who say "Usichoke" - please stay strong, keep the vision, and hold the course. The Konza City project is still at a critical stage that needs your drive and support. Once it gains it's own momentum then you can take a well deserved rest, until then let us all put our shoulders behind this project and push it forward.
Best regards,
Brian
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On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:43 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem.
Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on the locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource.
With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law.
After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers.
This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in the Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country.
We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility.
What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something that has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes.
KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that they question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country.
Ndemo.
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Lucy, I think we can do more than simply dealing with my issue. The root cause of the problems in this country is the Procurement Law. It was designed to stop former President from stealing. It is the same law today we are using to implement Vision 2030. Today's Nation reports on tender cancellation on the greenfield airport. This is the time neighbouring countries, Ethiopia and Rwanda are building new airports double the size of JKIA in order to create a real hub. We reisk being relegated to some small destination when we have always let with big dreams as a hub. Just last week the IEBC tender was cancelled because the law is not enabling and risk eroding credibility in this agency as we approach the elections. Public sector is not spending on key projects simply many accounting officers fear arrest. I recall in TEAMS we had to go to Dubai in order to negotiate downwards the bid from Al Catel Lucent since our law had no provision for negotiation. This is how the project was finished below budget. The other day we were informed of a department that buys a packet of milk for Ksh. 300 which you can purchase at Uchumi for Ksh. 40 and all is legal through open tender. No media has ever attempted to analyze this law which reduces everybody into a robot. There is no rational thinking. At one time I tried to reprimand my officers for buying expensive toilet paper but I was told I risk breaking the law. I could not for example take an advance to buy the toilet papers directly from Uchumi. Here I will have broken the law by single sourcing from Uchumi. In my view if we want to help our country prosper, let us ask Gaithu and team to conduct a comprehensive analysis of this Law and highlight its ironies. We then prepare a white paper and seek the changes in the law and automate processes to allow the public to see how their resources are spent. Mukhisa Kituyi attempted show the problem in today's Nation. Ndemo.
Ali,
Great, I will MPESA my donation. Your point re accountability is fair and well taken, and I hope the KICTANET officials will be willing to provide us with details on how supporters of the Konza rebuttal can remit their donations. In the meantime, please collect what is sent your way and you can then submit to KICTANET if they are in agreement.
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 11, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Lucy
Wiling and ready! Probably a good idea though to have an institution like Kictanet do that? So that there is accountability? Any which way I'm ready to support.
Thanks
Ali Hussein
+254 773/713 601113
Sent from my iPhone®
On Aug 11, 2012, at 7:52 PM, Lucy Kimani <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
Warigia, while I echo your sentiments in support of PS Ndemo, the activist in me is wondering why we can't do more... For example I nominate Chief Matunda to draft an "Oped" in rebuttal based on PS Ndemo's piece and the supporting posts to be signed by the KICTAnet Community and Vision 2020, and any other entities..
Ali not to pick on you, but I believe Warigia and I are over the seas so would you be willing to act as the treasurer and all supporters can MPESA you their donations for an "AD buy" for the Konza Rebuttal...
Sent from my iPad
Begin forwarded message:
From: Warigia Bowman <warigia@gmail.com> Date: August 11, 2012 10:31:08 AM EDT To: lkimani@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Dear Daktari Ndemo
I am really sorry this has happened to you. As I said to one of my coworkers, if every permanent secretary were like Bitange Ndemo, Kenya would be in good shape politically and economically.
I join my colleagues in extending my support and loyalty.
Sincerely, Warigia
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:56 AM, John Kieti <jkieti@gmail.com> wrote: Bwana Ndemo, et al
The many of us in support may not be individually as powerful as the few 'powerful' forces against you. That said, our combined support will be too strong to wish away for any 'evil' force.
Just tell us when and how to engage ...
On Aug 10, 2012 10:17 AM, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Daktari
Let me add my voice of support on this.
There's a saying that one of the most vulnerable moments in aviation is when a plane is taking off and about to land. That's where I think Konza Techno City is. We must all in any way we can continue to support this model of progress in Africa.
Daktari, having said that you didn't really think that it was going to be easy right? The forces of darkness and quick bucks will not let it be unless they have their pound of flesh. Unfortunately the same tools that progressive forces use to move their agenda are the same tools available for the forces of retrogression.
This country has turned the corner for the better. The rule of law actually has a chance to thrive. Hang in there..And as the good bible says - The truth shall set you free!
Ali Hussein
+254 773/713 601113
Sent from my iPhone®
On Aug 10, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
Daktari,
Thank you for taking this bold step to shed pure light on the Konza Techno city site. It is truly unfortunate that the media persist in casting aspersions and (allowing themselves to be used for) mudslinging.
I recall, with clarity, how the print media (and especially Nation) were used during the early stages of TEAMs to try and discredit and bring disrepute to the project, yourself and others who were involved. It was laughable at the time how the newspaper even went as far as making rabid claims that I was fronting for powerful politicians via my company InHand Ltd which had procedurally applied for, and received an allocation in the project. I recall how many times the Anti-corruption commission carried out investigations, and I also recall having to answer a barrage of questions from the good folk at National Intelligence. All because of flimsy lies pushed through the newspapers by unscrupulous journalists who clearly had received the infamous "brown envelope" payoffs to publish dirt.
Needless to say - and as has been pointed out by Mugo. TEAMs survived the negativity and today has totally transformed this country and region. While I know that it is personally tiring, draining and very demoralizing to be a victim of this kind of treatment. Let me add my voice to those who say "Usichoke" - please stay strong, keep the vision, and hold the course. The Konza City project is still at a critical stage that needs your drive and support. Once it gains it's own momentum then you can take a well deserved rest, until then let us all put our shoulders behind this project and push it forward.
Best regards,
Brian
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On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:43 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem.
Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on the locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource.
With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law.
After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers.
This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in the Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country.
We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility.
What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something that has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes.
KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that they question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country.
Ndemo.
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Daktari I agree with you entirely. The industry was attempting something on procurement through the #140Friday discussion group. May be we should expand that mandate? Ali Hussein +254 773/713 601113 Sent from my iPhone® On Aug 13, 2012, at 12:07 AM, bitange@jambo.co.ke wrote:
Lucy, I think we can do more than simply dealing with my issue. The root cause of the problems in this country is the Procurement Law. It was designed to stop former President from stealing. It is the same law today we are using to implement Vision 2030. Today's Nation reports on tender cancellation on the greenfield airport. This is the time neighbouring countries, Ethiopia and Rwanda are building new airports double the size of JKIA in order to create a real hub. We reisk being relegated to some small destination when we have always let with big dreams as a hub.
Just last week the IEBC tender was cancelled because the law is not enabling and risk eroding credibility in this agency as we approach the elections. Public sector is not spending on key projects simply many accounting officers fear arrest. I recall in TEAMS we had to go to Dubai in order to negotiate downwards the bid from Al Catel Lucent since our law had no provision for negotiation. This is how the project was finished below budget.
The other day we were informed of a department that buys a packet of milk for Ksh. 300 which you can purchase at Uchumi for Ksh. 40 and all is legal through open tender. No media has ever attempted to analyze this law which reduces everybody into a robot. There is no rational thinking. At one time I tried to reprimand my officers for buying expensive toilet paper but I was told I risk breaking the law. I could not for example take an advance to buy the toilet papers directly from Uchumi. Here I will have broken the law by single sourcing from Uchumi.
In my view if we want to help our country prosper, let us ask Gaithu and team to conduct a comprehensive analysis of this Law and highlight its ironies. We then prepare a white paper and seek the changes in the law and automate processes to allow the public to see how their resources are spent. Mukhisa Kituyi attempted show the problem in today's Nation.
Ndemo.
Ali,
Great, I will MPESA my donation. Your point re accountability is fair and well taken, and I hope the KICTANET officials will be willing to provide us with details on how supporters of the Konza rebuttal can remit their donations. In the meantime, please collect what is sent your way and you can then submit to KICTANET if they are in agreement.
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 11, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Lucy
Wiling and ready! Probably a good idea though to have an institution like Kictanet do that? So that there is accountability? Any which way I'm ready to support.
Thanks
Ali Hussein
+254 773/713 601113
Sent from my iPhone®
On Aug 11, 2012, at 7:52 PM, Lucy Kimani <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
Warigia, while I echo your sentiments in support of PS Ndemo, the activist in me is wondering why we can't do more... For example I nominate Chief Matunda to draft an "Oped" in rebuttal based on PS Ndemo's piece and the supporting posts to be signed by the KICTAnet Community and Vision 2020, and any other entities..
Ali not to pick on you, but I believe Warigia and I are over the seas so would you be willing to act as the treasurer and all supporters can MPESA you their donations for an "AD buy" for the Konza Rebuttal...
Sent from my iPad
Begin forwarded message:
From: Warigia Bowman <warigia@gmail.com> Date: August 11, 2012 10:31:08 AM EDT To: lkimani@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Dear Daktari Ndemo
I am really sorry this has happened to you. As I said to one of my coworkers, if every permanent secretary were like Bitange Ndemo, Kenya would be in good shape politically and economically.
I join my colleagues in extending my support and loyalty.
Sincerely, Warigia
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:56 AM, John Kieti <jkieti@gmail.com> wrote: Bwana Ndemo, et al
The many of us in support may not be individually as powerful as the few 'powerful' forces against you. That said, our combined support will be too strong to wish away for any 'evil' force.
Just tell us when and how to engage ...
On Aug 10, 2012 10:17 AM, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Daktari
Let me add my voice of support on this.
There's a saying that one of the most vulnerable moments in aviation is when a plane is taking off and about to land. That's where I think Konza Techno City is. We must all in any way we can continue to support this model of progress in Africa.
Daktari, having said that you didn't really think that it was going to be easy right? The forces of darkness and quick bucks will not let it be unless they have their pound of flesh. Unfortunately the same tools that progressive forces use to move their agenda are the same tools available for the forces of retrogression.
This country has turned the corner for the better. The rule of law actually has a chance to thrive. Hang in there..And as the good bible says - The truth shall set you free!
Ali Hussein
+254 773/713 601113
Sent from my iPhone®
On Aug 10, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
Daktari,
Thank you for taking this bold step to shed pure light on the Konza Techno city site. It is truly unfortunate that the media persist in casting aspersions and (allowing themselves to be used for) mudslinging.
I recall, with clarity, how the print media (and especially Nation) were used during the early stages of TEAMs to try and discredit and bring disrepute to the project, yourself and others who were involved. It was laughable at the time how the newspaper even went as far as making rabid claims that I was fronting for powerful politicians via my company InHand Ltd which had procedurally applied for, and received an allocation in the project. I recall how many times the Anti-corruption commission carried out investigations, and I also recall having to answer a barrage of questions from the good folk at National Intelligence. All because of flimsy lies pushed through the newspapers by unscrupulous journalists who clearly had received the infamous "brown envelope" payoffs to publish dirt.
Needless to say - and as has been pointed out by Mugo. TEAMs survived the negativity and today has totally transformed this country and region. While I know that it is personally tiring, draining and very demoralizing to be a victim of this kind of treatment. Let me add my voice to those who say "Usichoke" - please stay strong, keep the vision, and hold the course. The Konza City project is still at a critical stage that needs your drive and support. Once it gains it's own momentum then you can take a well deserved rest, until then let us all put our shoulders behind this project and push it forward.
Best regards,
Brian
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On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:43 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem.
Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on the locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource.
With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law.
After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers.
This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in the Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country.
We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility.
What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something that has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes.
KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that they question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country.
Ndemo.
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PS Ndemo, Ali and Matunda, It appears we have multiple plans of action from all your suggestions: 1) Op-Ed piece in support of Konza, to include a problem statement on the impact of the current procurement law in impeding economic progress vis-vis advance a case for reform; <Matunda> 2) Expanded mandate for #140Friday to include analysis of procurement law; <Ali/Brian> 3) Macharia Gaitho and team to carry out a comprehensive analysis of procurement law focusing on the root cause and highlighting of resulting ironies; 4) White paper and recommended changes <TBD> 5) Feedback/thoughts on above <All> Sent from my iPad On Aug 12, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Daktari
I agree with you entirely. The industry was attempting something on procurement through the #140Friday discussion group. May be we should expand that mandate?
Ali Hussein
+254 773/713 601113
Sent from my iPhone®
On Aug 13, 2012, at 12:07 AM, bitange@jambo.co.ke wrote:
Lucy, I think we can do more than simply dealing with my issue. The root cause of the problems in this country is the Procurement Law. It was designed to stop former President from stealing. It is the same law today we are using to implement Vision 2030. Today's Nation reports on tender cancellation on the greenfield airport. This is the time neighbouring countries, Ethiopia and Rwanda are building new airports double the size of JKIA in order to create a real hub. We reisk being relegated to some small destination when we have always let with big dreams as a hub.
Just last week the IEBC tender was cancelled because the law is not enabling and risk eroding credibility in this agency as we approach the elections. Public sector is not spending on key projects simply many accounting officers fear arrest. I recall in TEAMS we had to go to Dubai in order to negotiate downwards the bid from Al Catel Lucent since our law had no provision for negotiation. This is how the project was finished below budget.
The other day we were informed of a department that buys a packet of milk for Ksh. 300 which you can purchase at Uchumi for Ksh. 40 and all is legal through open tender. No media has ever attempted to analyze this law which reduces everybody into a robot. There is no rational thinking. At one time I tried to reprimand my officers for buying expensive toilet paper but I was told I risk breaking the law. I could not for example take an advance to buy the toilet papers directly from Uchumi. Here I will have broken the law by single sourcing from Uchumi.
In my view if we want to help our country prosper, let us ask Gaithu and team to conduct a comprehensive analysis of this Law and highlight its ironies. We then prepare a white paper and seek the changes in the law and automate processes to allow the public to see how their resources are spent. Mukhisa Kituyi attempted show the problem in today's Nation.
Ndemo.
Ali,
Great, I will MPESA my donation. Your point re accountability is fair and well taken, and I hope the KICTANET officials will be willing to provide us with details on how supporters of the Konza rebuttal can remit their donations. In the meantime, please collect what is sent your way and you can then submit to KICTANET if they are in agreement.
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 11, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Lucy
Wiling and ready! Probably a good idea though to have an institution like Kictanet do that? So that there is accountability? Any which way I'm ready to support.
Thanks
Ali Hussein
+254 773/713 601113
Sent from my iPhone®
On Aug 11, 2012, at 7:52 PM, Lucy Kimani <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
Warigia, while I echo your sentiments in support of PS Ndemo, the activist in me is wondering why we can't do more... For example I nominate Chief Matunda to draft an "Oped" in rebuttal based on PS Ndemo's piece and the supporting posts to be signed by the KICTAnet Community and Vision 2020, and any other entities..
Ali not to pick on you, but I believe Warigia and I are over the seas so would you be willing to act as the treasurer and all supporters can MPESA you their donations for an "AD buy" for the Konza Rebuttal...
Sent from my iPad
Begin forwarded message:
From: Warigia Bowman <warigia@gmail.com> Date: August 11, 2012 10:31:08 AM EDT To: lkimani@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Dear Daktari Ndemo
I am really sorry this has happened to you. As I said to one of my coworkers, if every permanent secretary were like Bitange Ndemo, Kenya would be in good shape politically and economically.
I join my colleagues in extending my support and loyalty.
Sincerely, Warigia
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:56 AM, John Kieti <jkieti@gmail.com> wrote: Bwana Ndemo, et al
The many of us in support may not be individually as powerful as the few 'powerful' forces against you. That said, our combined support will be too strong to wish away for any 'evil' force.
Just tell us when and how to engage ...
On Aug 10, 2012 10:17 AM, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Daktari
Let me add my voice of support on this.
There's a saying that one of the most vulnerable moments in aviation is when a plane is taking off and about to land. That's where I think Konza Techno City is. We must all in any way we can continue to support this model of progress in Africa.
Daktari, having said that you didn't really think that it was going to be easy right? The forces of darkness and quick bucks will not let it be unless they have their pound of flesh. Unfortunately the same tools that progressive forces use to move their agenda are the same tools available for the forces of retrogression.
This country has turned the corner for the better. The rule of law actually has a chance to thrive. Hang in there..And as the good bible says - The truth shall set you free!
Ali Hussein
+254 773/713 601113
Sent from my iPhone®
On Aug 10, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
> Daktari, > > Thank you for taking this bold step to shed pure light on the Konza > Techno city site. It is truly unfortunate that the media persist in > casting aspersions and (allowing themselves to be used for) > mudslinging. > > I recall, with clarity, how the print media (and especially Nation) > were used during the early stages of TEAMs to try and discredit and > bring disrepute to the project, yourself and others who were > involved. It was laughable at the time how the newspaper even went as > far as making rabid claims that I was fronting for powerful > politicians via my company InHand Ltd which had procedurally applied > for, and received an allocation in the project. I recall how many > times the Anti-corruption commission carried out investigations, and > I also recall having to answer a barrage of questions from the good > folk at National Intelligence. All because of flimsy lies pushed > through the newspapers by unscrupulous journalists who clearly had > received the infamous "brown envelope" payoffs to publish dirt. > > Needless to say - and as has been pointed out by Mugo. TEAMs survived > the negativity and today has totally transformed this country and > region. While I know that it is personally tiring, draining and very > demoralizing to be a victim of this kind of treatment. Let me add my > voice to those who say "Usichoke" - please stay strong, keep the > vision, and hold the course. The Konza City project is still at a > critical stage that needs your drive and support. Once it gains it's > own momentum then you can take a well deserved rest, until then let > us all put our shoulders behind this project and push it forward. > > Best regards, > > Brian > > > Brian Munyao Longwe > | Mobile: 254715964281 > http://mashilingi.blogspot.com > Facebook Twitter LinkedIn > Contact me: blongwe > Want a signature like mine? Click here. > > > > On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:43 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: > Listers, > A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land > issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the > problem. > > Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on > the > locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done > by > Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must > be > located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts > of a > major city from where you can tap the human resource. > > With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable > land > within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done > openly > and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the > definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere > without > restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in > Wajir > will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement > law. > > After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to > give > us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since > most > quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece > and > offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one > is > not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the > country. > Here it is said we manipulated the numbers. > > This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in > the > Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted > tendering > to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and > one > that is in the interest of the country. > > We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and > we > were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the > departments but > I bear the ultimate responsibility. > > What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight > this > issue while we were having the Konza conference here with > international > investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya > has > changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great > damage > to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something > that > has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term > than > mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken > risky > decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we > only > rejoice on successes. > > KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were > on > our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that > they > question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change > laws > and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the > Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was > right > and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never > in > my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the > interest of > the country. > > Ndemo. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/blongwe%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder > platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT > policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for > reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT > enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable > behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times > and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, > respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or > qualifications. > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder > platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT > policy and regulation. 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Well summed up Lucy. I believe the below actions can have some impact in dealing with the root cause of the problem as Ndemo has mentioned. Peres Sent from my iPad On Aug 13, 2012, at 7:32, Lucy Kimani <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
PS Ndemo, Ali and Matunda,
It appears we have multiple plans of action from all your suggestions:
1) Op-Ed piece in support of Konza, to include a problem statement on the impact of the current procurement law in impeding economic progress vis-vis advance a case for reform; <Matunda>
2) Expanded mandate for #140Friday to include analysis of procurement law; <Ali/Brian>
3) Macharia Gaitho and team to carry out a comprehensive analysis of procurement law focusing on the root cause and highlighting of resulting ironies;
4) White paper and recommended changes <TBD>
5) Feedback/thoughts on above <All>
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 12, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Daktari
I agree with you entirely. The industry was attempting something on procurement through the #140Friday discussion group. May be we should expand that mandate?
Ali Hussein
+254 773/713 601113
Sent from my iPhone®
On Aug 13, 2012, at 12:07 AM, bitange@jambo.co.ke wrote:
Lucy, I think we can do more than simply dealing with my issue. The root cause of the problems in this country is the Procurement Law. It was designed to stop former President from stealing. It is the same law today we are using to implement Vision 2030. Today's Nation reports on tender cancellation on the greenfield airport. This is the time neighbouring countries, Ethiopia and Rwanda are building new airports double the size of JKIA in order to create a real hub. We reisk being relegated to some small destination when we have always let with big dreams as a hub.
Just last week the IEBC tender was cancelled because the law is not enabling and risk eroding credibility in this agency as we approach the elections. Public sector is not spending on key projects simply many accounting officers fear arrest. I recall in TEAMS we had to go to Dubai in order to negotiate downwards the bid from Al Catel Lucent since our law had no provision for negotiation. This is how the project was finished below budget.
The other day we were informed of a department that buys a packet of milk for Ksh. 300 which you can purchase at Uchumi for Ksh. 40 and all is legal through open tender. No media has ever attempted to analyze this law which reduces everybody into a robot. There is no rational thinking. At one time I tried to reprimand my officers for buying expensive toilet paper but I was told I risk breaking the law. I could not for example take an advance to buy the toilet papers directly from Uchumi. Here I will have broken the law by single sourcing from Uchumi.
In my view if we want to help our country prosper, let us ask Gaithu and team to conduct a comprehensive analysis of this Law and highlight its ironies. We then prepare a white paper and seek the changes in the law and automate processes to allow the public to see how their resources are spent. Mukhisa Kituyi attempted show the problem in today's Nation.
Ndemo.
Ali,
Great, I will MPESA my donation. Your point re accountability is fair and well taken, and I hope the KICTANET officials will be willing to provide us with details on how supporters of the Konza rebuttal can remit their donations. In the meantime, please collect what is sent your way and you can then submit to KICTANET if they are in agreement.
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 11, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Lucy
Wiling and ready! Probably a good idea though to have an institution like Kictanet do that? So that there is accountability? Any which way I'm ready to support.
Thanks
Ali Hussein
+254 773/713 601113
Sent from my iPhone®
On Aug 11, 2012, at 7:52 PM, Lucy Kimani <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
Warigia, while I echo your sentiments in support of PS Ndemo, the activist in me is wondering why we can't do more... For example I nominate Chief Matunda to draft an "Oped" in rebuttal based on PS Ndemo's piece and the supporting posts to be signed by the KICTAnet Community and Vision 2020, and any other entities..
Ali not to pick on you, but I believe Warigia and I are over the seas so would you be willing to act as the treasurer and all supporters can MPESA you their donations for an "AD buy" for the Konza Rebuttal...
Sent from my iPad
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Warigia Bowman <warigia@gmail.com> > Date: August 11, 2012 10:31:08 AM EDT > To: lkimani@yahoo.com > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue > > Dear Daktari Ndemo > > I am really sorry this has happened to you. As I said to one of my > coworkers, if every permanent secretary were like Bitange Ndemo, Kenya > would be in good shape politically and economically. > > I join my colleagues in extending my support and loyalty. > > Sincerely, Warigia > > On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:56 AM, John Kieti <jkieti@gmail.com> wrote: > Bwana Ndemo, et al > > The many of us in support may not be individually as powerful as the > few 'powerful' forces against you. That said, our combined support > will be too strong to wish away for any 'evil' force. > > Just tell us when and how to engage ... > > On Aug 10, 2012 10:17 AM, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: > Daktari > > Let me add my voice of support on this. > > There's a saying that one of the most vulnerable moments in aviation > is when a plane is taking off and about to land. That's where I think > Konza Techno City is. We must all in any way we can continue to > support this model of progress in Africa. > > Daktari, having said that you didn't really think that it was going to > be easy right? The forces of darkness and quick bucks will not let it > be unless they have their pound of flesh. Unfortunately the same tools > that progressive forces use to move their agenda are the same tools > available for the forces of retrogression. > > This country has turned the corner for the better. The rule of law > actually has a chance to thrive. Hang in there..And as the good bible > says - The truth shall set you free! > > Ali Hussein > > +254 773/713 601113 > > Sent from my iPhone® > > On Aug 10, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Daktari, >> >> Thank you for taking this bold step to shed pure light on the Konza >> Techno city site. It is truly unfortunate that the media persist in >> casting aspersions and (allowing themselves to be used for) >> mudslinging. >> >> I recall, with clarity, how the print media (and especially Nation) >> were used during the early stages of TEAMs to try and discredit and >> bring disrepute to the project, yourself and others who were >> involved. It was laughable at the time how the newspaper even went as >> far as making rabid claims that I was fronting for powerful >> politicians via my company InHand Ltd which had procedurally applied >> for, and received an allocation in the project. I recall how many >> times the Anti-corruption commission carried out investigations, and >> I also recall having to answer a barrage of questions from the good >> folk at National Intelligence. All because of flimsy lies pushed >> through the newspapers by unscrupulous journalists who clearly had >> received the infamous "brown envelope" payoffs to publish dirt. >> >> Needless to say - and as has been pointed out by Mugo. TEAMs survived >> the negativity and today has totally transformed this country and >> region. While I know that it is personally tiring, draining and very >> demoralizing to be a victim of this kind of treatment. Let me add my >> voice to those who say "Usichoke" - please stay strong, keep the >> vision, and hold the course. The Konza City project is still at a >> critical stage that needs your drive and support. Once it gains it's >> own momentum then you can take a well deserved rest, until then let >> us all put our shoulders behind this project and push it forward. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Brian >> >> >> Brian Munyao Longwe >> | Mobile: 254715964281 >> http://mashilingi.blogspot.com >> Facebook Twitter LinkedIn >> Contact me: blongwe >> Want a signature like mine? Click here. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:43 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: >> Listers, >> A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land >> issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the >> problem. >> >> Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on >> the >> locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done >> by >> Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must >> be >> located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts >> of a >> major city from where you can tap the human resource. >> >> With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable >> land >> within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done >> openly >> and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the >> definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere >> without >> restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in >> Wajir >> will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement >> law. >> >> After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to >> give >> us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since >> most >> quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece >> and >> offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one >> is >> not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the >> country. >> Here it is said we manipulated the numbers. >> >> This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in >> the >> Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted >> tendering >> to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and >> one >> that is in the interest of the country. >> >> We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and >> we >> were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the >> departments but >> I bear the ultimate responsibility. >> >> What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight >> this >> issue while we were having the Konza conference here with >> international >> investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya >> has >> changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great >> damage >> to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something >> that >> has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term >> than >> mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken >> risky >> decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we >> only >> rejoice on successes. >> >> KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were >> on >> our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that >> they >> question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change >> laws >> and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the >> Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was >> right >> and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never >> in >> my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the >> interest of >> the country. >> >> Ndemo. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/blongwe%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >> platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT >> policy and regulation. 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Colleagues, Through http://www.lpakenya.org/, we made attempts to engage the Public Procurement Oversight Authority over some anti competitive clauses in the Procurement Law, we did not achieve our desired objectives but we still beleive we will. This is to confirm some of the issues being raised by Dr. Ndemo concerning grey areas in the law, we have to be deliberate and intentional to tackle this grey areas in the law and we have to speak in one voice. Its a pity i have not heard anything from Engineer Rege on this or Engineer Okundi our brothers who also happen to be experienced Politicians. We need this issue to be addressed by Parliament if we are to move forwad, it will stifle developement of the Industry. Best Regards On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Peres Were <peres_were@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Well summed up Lucy. I believe the below actions can have some impact in dealing with the root cause of the problem as Ndemo has mentioned.
Peres
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On Aug 13, 2012, at 7:32, Lucy Kimani <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
PS Ndemo, Ali and Matunda,
It appears we have multiple plans of action from all your suggestions:
1) Op-Ed piece in support of Konza, to include a problem statement on the impact of the current procurement law in impeding economic progress vis-vis advance a case for reform; <Matunda>
2) Expanded mandate for #140Friday to include analysis of procurement law; <Ali/Brian>
3) Macharia Gaitho and team to carry out a comprehensive analysis of procurement law focusing on the root cause and highlighting of resulting ironies;
4) White paper and recommended changes <TBD>
5) Feedback/thoughts on above <All>
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On Aug 12, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Daktari
I agree with you entirely. The industry was attempting something on procurement through the #140Friday discussion group. May be we should expand that mandate?
Ali Hussein
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On Aug 13, 2012, at 12:07 AM, bitange@jambo.co.ke wrote:
Lucy, I think we can do more than simply dealing with my issue. The root cause of the problems in this country is the Procurement Law. It was designed to stop former President from stealing. It is the same law today we are using to implement Vision 2030. Today's Nation reports on tender cancellation on the greenfield airport. This is the time neighbouring countries, Ethiopia and Rwanda are building new airports double the size of JKIA in order to create a real hub. We reisk being relegated to some small destination when we have always let with big dreams as a hub.
Just last week the IEBC tender was cancelled because the law is not enabling and risk eroding credibility in this agency as we approach the elections. Public sector is not spending on key projects simply many accounting officers fear arrest. I recall in TEAMS we had to go to Dubai in order to negotiate downwards the bid from Al Catel Lucent since our law had no provision for negotiation. This is how the project was finished below budget.
The other day we were informed of a department that buys a packet of milk for Ksh. 300 which you can purchase at Uchumi for Ksh. 40 and all is legal through open tender. No media has ever attempted to analyze this law which reduces everybody into a robot. There is no rational thinking. At one time I tried to reprimand my officers for buying expensive toilet paper but I was told I risk breaking the law. I could not for example take an advance to buy the toilet papers directly from Uchumi. Here I will have broken the law by single sourcing from Uchumi.
In my view if we want to help our country prosper, let us ask Gaithu and team to conduct a comprehensive analysis of this Law and highlight its ironies. We then prepare a white paper and seek the changes in the law and automate processes to allow the public to see how their resources are spent. Mukhisa Kituyi attempted show the problem in today's Nation.
Ndemo.
Ali,
Great, I will MPESA my donation. Your point re accountability is fair and well taken, and I hope the KICTANET officials will be willing to provide us with details on how supporters of the Konza rebuttal can remit their donations. In the meantime, please collect what is sent your way and you can then submit to KICTANET if they are in agreement.
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On Aug 11, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Lucy
Wiling and ready! Probably a good idea though to have an institution like Kictanet do that? So that there is accountability? Any which way I'm ready to support.
Thanks
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On Aug 11, 2012, at 7:52 PM, Lucy Kimani <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Warigia, while I echo your sentiments in support of PS Ndemo, the > activist in me is wondering why we can't do more... For example I > nominate Chief Matunda to draft an "Oped" in rebuttal based on PS > Ndemo's piece and the supporting posts to be signed by the KICTAnet > Community and Vision 2020, and any other entities.. > > Ali not to pick on you, but I believe Warigia and I are over the seas > so would you be willing to act as the treasurer and all supporters can > MPESA you their donations for an "AD buy" for the Konza Rebuttal... > > Sent from my iPad > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Warigia Bowman <warigia@gmail.com> >> Date: August 11, 2012 10:31:08 AM EDT >> To: lkimani@yahoo.com >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue >> >> Dear Daktari Ndemo >> >> I am really sorry this has happened to you. As I said to one of my >> coworkers, if every permanent secretary were like Bitange Ndemo, Kenya >> would be in good shape politically and economically. >> >> I join my colleagues in extending my support and loyalty. >> >> Sincerely, Warigia >> >> On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:56 AM, John Kieti <jkieti@gmail.com> wrote: >> Bwana Ndemo, et al >> >> The many of us in support may not be individually as powerful as the >> few 'powerful' forces against you. That said, our combined support >> will be too strong to wish away for any 'evil' force. >> >> Just tell us when and how to engage ... >> >> On Aug 10, 2012 10:17 AM, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: >> Daktari >> >> Let me add my voice of support on this. >> >> There's a saying that one of the most vulnerable moments in aviation >> is when a plane is taking off and about to land. That's where I think >> Konza Techno City is. We must all in any way we can continue to >> support this model of progress in Africa. >> >> Daktari, having said that you didn't really think that it was going to >> be easy right? The forces of darkness and quick bucks will not let it >> be unless they have their pound of flesh. Unfortunately the same tools >> that progressive forces use to move their agenda are the same tools >> available for the forces of retrogression. >> >> This country has turned the corner for the better. The rule of law >> actually has a chance to thrive. Hang in there..And as the good bible >> says - The truth shall set you free! >> >> Ali Hussein >> >> +254 773/713 601113 >> >> Sent from my iPhone® >> >> On Aug 10, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe < blongwe@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Daktari, >>> >>> Thank you for taking this bold step to shed pure light on the Konza >>> Techno city site. It is truly unfortunate that the media persist in >>> casting aspersions and (allowing themselves to be used for) >>> mudslinging. >>> >>> I recall, with clarity, how the print media (and especially Nation) >>> were used during the early stages of TEAMs to try and discredit and >>> bring disrepute to the project, yourself and others who were >>> involved. It was laughable at the time how the newspaper even went as >>> far as making rabid claims that I was fronting for powerful >>> politicians via my company InHand Ltd which had procedurally applied >>> for, and received an allocation in the project. I recall how many >>> times the Anti-corruption commission carried out investigations, and >>> I also recall having to answer a barrage of questions from the good >>> folk at National Intelligence. All because of flimsy lies pushed >>> through the newspapers by unscrupulous journalists who clearly had >>> received the infamous "brown envelope" payoffs to publish dirt. >>> >>> Needless to say - and as has been pointed out by Mugo. TEAMs survived >>> the negativity and today has totally transformed this country and >>> region. While I know that it is personally tiring, draining and very >>> demoralizing to be a victim of this kind of treatment. Let me add my >>> voice to those who say "Usichoke" - please stay strong, keep the >>> vision, and hold the course. The Konza City project is still at a >>> critical stage that needs your drive and support. Once it gains it's >>> own momentum then you can take a well deserved rest, until then let >>> us all put our shoulders behind this project and push it forward. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> >>> Brian Munyao Longwe >>> | Mobile: 254715964281 >>> http://mashilingi.blogspot.com >>> Facebook Twitter LinkedIn >>> Contact me: blongwe >>> Want a signature like mine? Click here. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:43 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: >>> Listers, >>> A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land >>> issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the >>> problem. >>> >>> Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on >>> the >>> locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done >>> by >>> Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must >>> be >>> located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts >>> of a >>> major city from where you can tap the human resource. >>> >>> With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable >>> land >>> within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done >>> openly >>> and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the >>> definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere >>> without >>> restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in >>> Wajir >>> will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement >>> law. >>> >>> After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to >>> give >>> us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since >>> most >>> quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece >>> and >>> offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one >>> is >>> not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the >>> country. >>> Here it is said we manipulated the numbers. >>> >>> This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in >>> the >>> Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted >>> tendering >>> to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and >>> one >>> that is in the interest of the country. >>> >>> We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and >>> we >>> were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the >>> departments but >>> I bear the ultimate responsibility. >>> >>> What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight >>> this >>> issue while we were having the Konza conference here with >>> international >>> investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya >>> has >>> changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great >>> damage >>> to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something >>> that >>> has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term >>> than >>> mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken >>> risky >>> decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we >>> only >>> rejoice on successes. >>> >>> KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were >>> on >>> our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that >>> they >>> question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change >>> laws >>> and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the >>> Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was >>> right >>> and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never >>> in >>> my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the >>> interest of >>> the country. >>> >>> Ndemo. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/blongwe%40gmail.com >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >>> platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT >>> policy and regulation. 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Through http://www.lpakenya.org/, we made attempts to engage the Public Procurement Oversight Authority over some anti competitive clauses in the Procurement Law, we did not achieve our desired objectives but we still beleive we will. This is to confirm some of the issues being raised by Dr. Ndemo concerning grey areas in the law, we have to be deliberate and intentional to tackle this grey areas in the law and we have to speak in one voice. Its a pity i have not heard anything from Engineer Rege on this or Engineer Okundi our brothers who also happen to be experienced Politicians. We need this issue to be addressed by Parliament if we are to move forwad, it will stifle developement of the Industry.
Best Regards
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Peres Were <peres_were@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
Well summed up Lucy. I believe the below actions can have some impact in dealing with the root cause of the problem as Ndemo has mentioned.
Peres
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On Aug 13, 2012, at 7:32, Lucy Kimani <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
PS Ndemo, Ali and Matunda,
It appears we have multiple plans of action from all your suggestions:
1) Op-Ed piece in support of Konza, to include a problem statement on the impact of the current procurement law in impeding economic progress vis-vis advance a case for reform; <Matunda>
2) Expanded mandate for #140Friday to include analysis of procurement law; <Ali/Brian>
3) Macharia Gaitho and team to carry out a comprehensive analysis of procurement law focusing on the root cause and highlighting of resulting ironies;
4) White paper and recommended changes <TBD>
5) Feedback/thoughts on above <All>
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On Aug 12, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Daktari
I agree with you entirely. The industry was attempting something on procurement through the #140Friday discussion group. May be we should expand that mandate?
Ali Hussein
+254 773/713 601113
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On Aug 13, 2012, at 12:07 AM, bitange@jambo.co.ke wrote:
Lucy, I think we can do more than simply dealing with my issue. The root cause of the problems in this country is the Procurement Law. It was designed to stop former President from stealing. It is the same law today we are using to implement Vision 2030. Today's Nation reports on tender cancellation on the greenfield airport. This is the time neighbouring countries, Ethiopia and Rwanda are building new airports double the size of JKIA in order to create a real hub. We reisk being relegated to some small destination when we have always let with big dreams as a hub.
Just last week the IEBC tender was cancelled because the law is not enabling and risk eroding credibility in this agency as we approach the elections. Public sector is not spending on key projects simply many accounting officers fear arrest. I recall in TEAMS we had to go to Dubai in order to negotiate downwards the bid from Al Catel Lucent since our law had no provision for negotiation. This is how the project was finished below budget.
The other day we were informed of a department that buys a packet of milk for Ksh. 300 which you can purchase at Uchumi for Ksh. 40 and all is legal through open tender. No media has ever attempted to analyze this law which reduces everybody into a robot. There is no rational thinking. At one time I tried to reprimand my officers for buying expensive toilet paper but I was told I risk breaking the law. I could not for example take an advance to buy the toilet papers directly from Uchumi. Here I will have broken the law by single sourcing from Uchumi.
In my view if we want to help our country prosper, let us ask Gaithu and team to conduct a comprehensive analysis of this Law and highlight its ironies. We then prepare a white paper and seek the changes in the law and automate processes to allow the public to see how their resources are spent. Mukhisa Kituyi attempted show the problem in today's Nation.
Ndemo.
Ali,
Great, I will MPESA my donation. Your point re accountability is fair and well taken, and I hope the KICTANET officials will be willing to provide us with details on how supporters of the Konza rebuttal can remit their donations. In the meantime, please collect what is sent your way and you can then submit to KICTANET if they are in agreement.
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> Lucy > > Wiling and ready! Probably a good idea though to have an institution > like Kictanet do that? So that there is accountability? Any which way > I'm ready to support. > > Thanks > > Ali Hussein > > +254 773/713 601113 > > Sent from my iPhone® > > On Aug 11, 2012, at 7:52 PM, Lucy Kimani <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Warigia, while I echo your sentiments in support of PS Ndemo, the >> activist in me is wondering why we can't do more... For example I >> nominate Chief Matunda to draft an "Oped" in rebuttal based on PS >> Ndemo's piece and the supporting posts to be signed by the KICTAnet >> Community and Vision 2020, and any other entities.. >> >> Ali not to pick on you, but I believe Warigia and I are over the seas >> so would you be willing to act as the treasurer and all supporters can >> MPESA you their donations for an "AD buy" for the Konza Rebuttal... >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Warigia Bowman <warigia@gmail.com> >>> Date: August 11, 2012 10:31:08 AM EDT >>> To: lkimani@yahoo.com >>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue >>> >>> Dear Daktari Ndemo >>> >>> I am really sorry this has happened to you. As I said to one of my >>> coworkers, if every permanent secretary were like Bitange Ndemo, Kenya >>> would be in good shape politically and economically. >>> >>> I join my colleagues in extending my support and loyalty. >>> >>> Sincerely, Warigia >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:56 AM, John Kieti <jkieti@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Bwana Ndemo, et al >>> >>> The many of us in support may not be individually as powerful as the >>> few 'powerful' forces against you. That said, our combined support >>> will be too strong to wish away for any 'evil' force. >>> >>> Just tell us when and how to engage ... >>> >>> On Aug 10, 2012 10:17 AM, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: >>> Daktari >>> >>> Let me add my voice of support on this. >>> >>> There's a saying that one of the most vulnerable moments in aviation >>> is when a plane is taking off and about to land. That's where I think >>> Konza Techno City is. We must all in any way we can continue to >>> support this model of progress in Africa. >>> >>> Daktari, having said that you didn't really think that it was going to >>> be easy right? The forces of darkness and quick bucks will not let it >>> be unless they have their pound of flesh. Unfortunately the same tools >>> that progressive forces use to move their agenda are the same tools >>> available for the forces of retrogression. >>> >>> This country has turned the corner for the better. The rule of law >>> actually has a chance to thrive. Hang in there..And as the good bible >>> says - The truth shall set you free! >>> >>> Ali Hussein >>> >>> +254 773/713 601113 >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone® >>> >>> On Aug 10, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe < blongwe@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Daktari, >>>> >>>> Thank you for taking this bold step to shed pure light on the Konza >>>> Techno city site. It is truly unfortunate that the media persist in >>>> casting aspersions and (allowing themselves to be used for) >>>> mudslinging. >>>> >>>> I recall, with clarity, how the print media (and especially Nation) >>>> were used during the early stages of TEAMs to try and discredit and >>>> bring disrepute to the project, yourself and others who were >>>> involved. It was laughable at the time how the newspaper even went as >>>> far as making rabid claims that I was fronting for powerful >>>> politicians via my company InHand Ltd which had procedurally applied >>>> for, and received an allocation in the project. I recall how many >>>> times the Anti-corruption commission carried out investigations, and >>>> I also recall having to answer a barrage of questions from the good >>>> folk at National Intelligence. All because of flimsy lies pushed >>>> through the newspapers by unscrupulous journalists who clearly had >>>> received the infamous "brown envelope" payoffs to publish dirt. >>>> >>>> Needless to say - and as has been pointed out by Mugo. TEAMs survived >>>> the negativity and today has totally transformed this country and >>>> region. While I know that it is personally tiring, draining and very >>>> demoralizing to be a victim of this kind of treatment. Let me add my >>>> voice to those who say "Usichoke" - please stay strong, keep the >>>> vision, and hold the course. The Konza City project is still at a >>>> critical stage that needs your drive and support. Once it gains it's >>>> own momentum then you can take a well deserved rest, until then let >>>> us all put our shoulders behind this project and push it forward. >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> Brian >>>> >>>> >>>> Brian Munyao Longwe >>>> | Mobile: 254715964281 >>>> http://mashilingi.blogspot.com >>>> Facebook Twitter LinkedIn >>>> Contact me: blongwe >>>> Want a signature like mine? Click here. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:43 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: >>>> Listers, >>>> A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land >>>> issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the >>>> problem. >>>> >>>> Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on >>>> the >>>> locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done >>>> by >>>> Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must >>>> be >>>> located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts >>>> of a >>>> major city from where you can tap the human resource. >>>> >>>> With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable >>>> land >>>> within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done >>>> openly >>>> and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the >>>> definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere >>>> without >>>> restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in >>>> Wajir >>>> will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement >>>> law. >>>> >>>> After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to >>>> give >>>> us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since >>>> most >>>> quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece >>>> and >>>> offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one >>>> is >>>> not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the >>>> country. >>>> Here it is said we manipulated the numbers. >>>> >>>> This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in >>>> the >>>> Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted >>>> tendering >>>> to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and >>>> one >>>> that is in the interest of the country. >>>> >>>> We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and >>>> we >>>> were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the >>>> departments but >>>> I bear the ultimate responsibility. >>>> >>>> What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight >>>> this >>>> issue while we were having the Konza conference here with >>>> international >>>> investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya >>>> has >>>> changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great >>>> damage >>>> to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something >>>> that >>>> has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term >>>> than >>>> mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken >>>> risky >>>> decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we >>>> only >>>> rejoice on successes. >>>> >>>> KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were >>>> on >>>> our case all through until the project was complete. 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Lucy Couldn't have put it better. Let's all get on with it then and report back? Timelines? Ali Hussein On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Lucy Kimani <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
PS Ndemo, Ali and Matunda,
It appears we have multiple plans of action from all your suggestions:
1) Op-Ed piece in support of Konza, to include a problem statement on the impact of the current procurement law in impeding economic progress vis-vis advance a case for reform; <Matunda>
2) Expanded mandate for #140Friday to include analysis of procurement law; <Ali/Brian>
3) Macharia Gaitho and team to carry out a comprehensive analysis of procurement law focusing on the root cause and highlighting of resulting ironies;
4) White paper and recommended changes <TBD>
5) Feedback/thoughts on above <All>
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On Aug 12, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Daktari
I agree with you entirely. The industry was attempting something on procurement through the #140Friday discussion group. May be we should expand that mandate?
Ali Hussein
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On Aug 13, 2012, at 12:07 AM, bitange@jambo.co.ke wrote:
Lucy, I think we can do more than simply dealing with my issue. The root cause of the problems in this country is the Procurement Law. It was designed to stop former President from stealing. It is the same law today we are using to implement Vision 2030. Today's Nation reports on tender cancellation on the greenfield airport. This is the time neighbouring countries, Ethiopia and Rwanda are building new airports double the size of JKIA in order to create a real hub. We reisk being relegated to some small destination when we have always let with big dreams as a hub.
Just last week the IEBC tender was cancelled because the law is not enabling and risk eroding credibility in this agency as we approach the elections. Public sector is not spending on key projects simply many accounting officers fear arrest. I recall in TEAMS we had to go to Dubai in order to negotiate downwards the bid from Al Catel Lucent since our law had no provision for negotiation. This is how the project was finished below budget.
The other day we were informed of a department that buys a packet of milk for Ksh. 300 which you can purchase at Uchumi for Ksh. 40 and all is legal through open tender. No media has ever attempted to analyze this law which reduces everybody into a robot. There is no rational thinking. At one time I tried to reprimand my officers for buying expensive toilet paper but I was told I risk breaking the law. I could not for example take an advance to buy the toilet papers directly from Uchumi. Here I will have broken the law by single sourcing from Uchumi.
In my view if we want to help our country prosper, let us ask Gaithu and team to conduct a comprehensive analysis of this Law and highlight its ironies. We then prepare a white paper and seek the changes in the law and automate processes to allow the public to see how their resources are spent. Mukhisa Kituyi attempted show the problem in today's Nation.
Ndemo.
Ali,
Great, I will MPESA my donation. Your point re accountability is fair and well taken, and I hope the KICTANET officials will be willing to provide us with details on how supporters of the Konza rebuttal can remit their donations. In the meantime, please collect what is sent your way and you can then submit to KICTANET if they are in agreement.
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On Aug 11, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Lucy
Wiling and ready! Probably a good idea though to have an institution like Kictanet do that? So that there is accountability? Any which way I'm ready to support.
Thanks
Ali Hussein
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On Aug 11, 2012, at 7:52 PM, Lucy Kimani <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
Warigia, while I echo your sentiments in support of PS Ndemo, the activist in me is wondering why we can't do more... For example I nominate Chief Matunda to draft an "Oped" in rebuttal based on PS Ndemo's piece and the supporting posts to be signed by the KICTAnet Community and Vision 2020, and any other entities..
Ali not to pick on you, but I believe Warigia and I are over the seas so would you be willing to act as the treasurer and all supporters can MPESA you their donations for an "AD buy" for the Konza Rebuttal...
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> From: Warigia Bowman <warigia@gmail.com> > Date: August 11, 2012 10:31:08 AM EDT > To: lkimani@yahoo.com > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue > > Dear Daktari Ndemo > > I am really sorry this has happened to you. As I said to one of my > coworkers, if every permanent secretary were like Bitange Ndemo, Kenya > would be in good shape politically and economically. > > I join my colleagues in extending my support and loyalty. > > Sincerely, Warigia > > On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:56 AM, John Kieti <jkieti@gmail.com> wrote: > Bwana Ndemo, et al > > The many of us in support may not be individually as powerful as the > few 'powerful' forces against you. That said, our combined support > will be too strong to wish away for any 'evil' force. > > Just tell us when and how to engage ... > > On Aug 10, 2012 10:17 AM, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: > Daktari > > Let me add my voice of support on this. > > There's a saying that one of the most vulnerable moments in aviation > is when a plane is taking off and about to land. That's where I think > Konza Techno City is. We must all in any way we can continue to > support this model of progress in Africa. > > Daktari, having said that you didn't really think that it was going to > be easy right? The forces of darkness and quick bucks will not let it > be unless they have their pound of flesh. Unfortunately the same tools > that progressive forces use to move their agenda are the same tools > available for the forces of retrogression. > > This country has turned the corner for the better. The rule of law > actually has a chance to thrive. Hang in there..And as the good bible > says - The truth shall set you free! > > Ali Hussein > > +254 773/713 601113 > > Sent from my iPhone® > > On Aug 10, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com
> wrote: > >> Daktari, >> >> Thank you for taking this bold step to shed pure light on the Konza >> Techno city site. It is truly unfortunate that the media persist in >> casting aspersions and (allowing themselves to be used for) >> mudslinging. >> >> I recall, with clarity, how the print media (and especially Nation) >> were used during the early stages of TEAMs to try and discredit and >> bring disrepute to the project, yourself and others who were >> involved. It was laughable at the time how the newspaper even went as >> far as making rabid claims that I was fronting for powerful >> politicians via my company InHand Ltd which had procedurally applied >> for, and received an allocation in the project. I recall how many >> times the Anti-corruption commission carried out investigations, and >> I also recall having to answer a barrage of questions from the good >> folk at National Intelligence. All because of flimsy lies pushed >> through the newspapers by unscrupulous journalists who clearly had >> received the infamous "brown envelope" payoffs to publish dirt. >> >> Needless to say - and as has been pointed out by Mugo. TEAMs survived >> the negativity and today has totally transformed this country and >> region. While I know that it is personally tiring, draining and very >> demoralizing to be a victim of this kind of treatment. Let me add my >> voice to those who say "Usichoke" - please stay strong, keep the >> vision, and hold the course. The Konza City project is still at a >> critical stage that needs your drive and support. Once it gains it's >> own momentum then you can take a well deserved rest, until then let >> us all put our shoulders behind this project and push it forward. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Brian >> >> >> Brian Munyao Longwe >> | Mobile: 254715964281 >> http://mashilingi.blogspot.com >> Facebook Twitter LinkedIn >> Contact me: blongwe >> Want a signature like mine? Click here. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:43 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: >> Listers, >> A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land >> issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the >> problem. >> >> Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on >> the >> locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done >> by >> Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must >> be >> located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts >> of a >> major city from where you can tap the human resource. >> >> With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable >> land >> within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done >> openly >> and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the >> definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere >> without >> restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in >> Wajir >> will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement >> law. >> >> After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to >> give >> us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since >> most >> quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece >> and >> offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one >> is >> not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the >> country. >> Here it is said we manipulated the numbers. >> >> This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in >> the >> Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted >> tendering >> to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and >> one >> that is in the interest of the country. >> >> We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and >> we >> were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the >> departments but >> I bear the ultimate responsibility. >> >> What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight >> this >> issue while we were having the Konza conference here with >> international >> investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya >> has >> changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great >> damage >> to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something >> that >> has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term >> than >> mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken >> risky >> decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we >> only >> rejoice on successes. >> >> KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were >> on >> our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that >> they >> question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change >> laws >> and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the >> Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was >> right >> and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never >> in >> my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the >> interest of >> the country. >> >> Ndemo. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/blongwe%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >> platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT >> policy and regulation. 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I think Dr. Ndemo you have misread the law. 1. You are not obliged to take the lowest bidder so long as there are sound reasons e.g. Poor quality 2. You can cancel a tender or RFQ if the tendering parties are capitalizing on "government weaknesses" to bid way above the market price. Actually, PPOA regular publishes a price index for common office consumables. In no way is a packet of milk 200bob. Well for complex procurement like Konza or TEAMS, that is another ball game. No institution with an iota of credibility will find fault on you if you are honest and above board. And the law is never interpreted in a vacuum. On 13/08/2012, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Lucy, I think we can do more than simply dealing with my issue. The root cause of the problems in this country is the Procurement Law. It was designed to stop former President from stealing. It is the same law today we are using to implement Vision 2030. Today's Nation reports on tender cancellation on the greenfield airport. This is the time neighbouring countries, Ethiopia and Rwanda are building new airports double the size of JKIA in order to create a real hub. We reisk being relegated to some small destination when we have always let with big dreams as a hub.
Just last week the IEBC tender was cancelled because the law is not enabling and risk eroding credibility in this agency as we approach the elections. Public sector is not spending on key projects simply many accounting officers fear arrest. I recall in TEAMS we had to go to Dubai in order to negotiate downwards the bid from Al Catel Lucent since our law had no provision for negotiation. This is how the project was finished below budget.
The other day we were informed of a department that buys a packet of milk for Ksh. 300 which you can purchase at Uchumi for Ksh. 40 and all is legal through open tender. No media has ever attempted to analyze this law which reduces everybody into a robot. There is no rational thinking. At one time I tried to reprimand my officers for buying expensive toilet paper but I was told I risk breaking the law. I could not for example take an advance to buy the toilet papers directly from Uchumi. Here I will have broken the law by single sourcing from Uchumi.
In my view if we want to help our country prosper, let us ask Gaithu and team to conduct a comprehensive analysis of this Law and highlight its ironies. We then prepare a white paper and seek the changes in the law and automate processes to allow the public to see how their resources are spent. Mukhisa Kituyi attempted show the problem in today's Nation.
Ndemo.
Ali,
Great, I will MPESA my donation. Your point re accountability is fair and well taken, and I hope the KICTANET officials will be willing to provide us with details on how supporters of the Konza rebuttal can remit their donations. In the meantime, please collect what is sent your way and you can then submit to KICTANET if they are in agreement.
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 11, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Lucy
Wiling and ready! Probably a good idea though to have an institution like Kictanet do that? So that there is accountability? Any which way I'm ready to support.
Thanks
Ali Hussein
+254 773/713 601113
Sent from my iPhone®
On Aug 11, 2012, at 7:52 PM, Lucy Kimani <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
Warigia, while I echo your sentiments in support of PS Ndemo, the activist in me is wondering why we can't do more... For example I nominate Chief Matunda to draft an "Oped" in rebuttal based on PS Ndemo's piece and the supporting posts to be signed by the KICTAnet Community and Vision 2020, and any other entities..
Ali not to pick on you, but I believe Warigia and I are over the seas so would you be willing to act as the treasurer and all supporters can MPESA you their donations for an "AD buy" for the Konza Rebuttal...
Sent from my iPad
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From: Warigia Bowman <warigia@gmail.com> Date: August 11, 2012 10:31:08 AM EDT To: lkimani@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Dear Daktari Ndemo
I am really sorry this has happened to you. As I said to one of my coworkers, if every permanent secretary were like Bitange Ndemo, Kenya would be in good shape politically and economically.
I join my colleagues in extending my support and loyalty.
Sincerely, Warigia
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:56 AM, John Kieti <jkieti@gmail.com> wrote: Bwana Ndemo, et al
The many of us in support may not be individually as powerful as the few 'powerful' forces against you. That said, our combined support will be too strong to wish away for any 'evil' force.
Just tell us when and how to engage ...
On Aug 10, 2012 10:17 AM, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Daktari
Let me add my voice of support on this.
There's a saying that one of the most vulnerable moments in aviation is when a plane is taking off and about to land. That's where I think Konza Techno City is. We must all in any way we can continue to support this model of progress in Africa.
Daktari, having said that you didn't really think that it was going to be easy right? The forces of darkness and quick bucks will not let it be unless they have their pound of flesh. Unfortunately the same tools that progressive forces use to move their agenda are the same tools available for the forces of retrogression.
This country has turned the corner for the better. The rule of law actually has a chance to thrive. Hang in there..And as the good bible says - The truth shall set you free!
Ali Hussein
+254 773/713 601113
Sent from my iPhone®
On Aug 10, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
Daktari,
Thank you for taking this bold step to shed pure light on the Konza Techno city site. It is truly unfortunate that the media persist in casting aspersions and (allowing themselves to be used for) mudslinging.
I recall, with clarity, how the print media (and especially Nation) were used during the early stages of TEAMs to try and discredit and bring disrepute to the project, yourself and others who were involved. It was laughable at the time how the newspaper even went as far as making rabid claims that I was fronting for powerful politicians via my company InHand Ltd which had procedurally applied for, and received an allocation in the project. I recall how many times the Anti-corruption commission carried out investigations, and I also recall having to answer a barrage of questions from the good folk at National Intelligence. All because of flimsy lies pushed through the newspapers by unscrupulous journalists who clearly had received the infamous "brown envelope" payoffs to publish dirt.
Needless to say - and as has been pointed out by Mugo. TEAMs survived the negativity and today has totally transformed this country and region. While I know that it is personally tiring, draining and very demoralizing to be a victim of this kind of treatment. Let me add my voice to those who say "Usichoke" - please stay strong, keep the vision, and hold the course. The Konza City project is still at a critical stage that needs your drive and support. Once it gains it's own momentum then you can take a well deserved rest, until then let us all put our shoulders behind this project and push it forward.
Best regards,
Brian
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On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:43 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem.
Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on the locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource.
With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law.
After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers.
This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in the Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country.
We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility.
What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something that has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes.
KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that they question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country.
Ndemo.
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Bw. Ndemo,Listers, The challenge we have,in my view, is that "purchasing" in Kenya is considered equivalent to "procurement". Procurement especially for complex projects starts right from design stage,project planning, packaging, sequencing etc. Any professional can actually procure in his field of specialisation and get "Good value for money". It is possible to follow that law and yet get very bad value for money. So if the law is to be revised we need to strike a very careful balance between"Public Interest" and "Self Interest". If we follow the rules and get BAD VALUE FOR MONEY, as stated elsewhere in this list,do we still purchase? In any tender there will always losers(who may be vey competent) and winners. This is the nature of competition. Should we allow the fight between winners and losers derail our national agenda? John Kariuki From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Monday, 13 August 2012, 0:07 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Konza Land Issue Attn Matunda and Ali Lucy, I think we can do more than simply dealing with my issue. The root cause of the problems in this country is the Procurement Law. It was designed to stop former President from stealing. It is the same law today we are using to implement Vision 2030. Today's Nation reports on tender cancellation on the greenfield airport. This is the time neighbouring countries, Ethiopia and Rwanda are building new airports double the size of JKIA in order to create a real hub. We reisk being relegated to some small destination when we have always let with big dreams as a hub. Just last week the IEBC tender was cancelled because the law is not enabling and risk eroding credibility in this agency as we approach the elections. Public sector is not spending on key projects simply many accounting officers fear arrest. I recall in TEAMS we had to go to Dubai in order to negotiate downwards the bid from Al Catel Lucent since our law had no provision for negotiation. This is how the project was finished below budget. The other day we were informed of a department that buys a packet of milk for Ksh. 300 which you can purchase at Uchumi for Ksh. 40 and all is legal through open tender. No media has ever attempted to analyze this law which reduces everybody into a robot. There is no rational thinking. At one time I tried to reprimand my officers for buying expensive toilet paper but I was told I risk breaking the law. I could not for example take an advance to buy the toilet papers directly from Uchumi. Here I will have broken the law by single sourcing from Uchumi. In my view if we want to help our country prosper, let us ask Gaithu and team to conduct a comprehensive analysis of this Law and highlight its ironies. We then prepare a white paper and seek the changes in the law and automate processes to allow the public to see how their resources are spent. Mukhisa Kituyi attempted show the problem in today's Nation. Ndemo.
Ali,
Great, I will MPESA my donation. Your point re accountability is fair and well taken, and I hope the KICTANET officials will be willing to provide us with details on how supporters of the Konza rebuttal can remit their donations. In the meantime, please collect what is sent your way and you can then submit to KICTANET if they are in agreement.
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 11, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Lucy
Wiling and ready! Probably a good idea though to have an institution like Kictanet do that? So that there is accountability? Any which way I'm ready to support.
Thanks
Ali Hussein
+254 773/713 601113
Sent from my iPhone®
On Aug 11, 2012, at 7:52 PM, Lucy Kimani <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
Warigia, while I echo your sentiments in support of PS Ndemo, the activist in me is wondering why we can't do more... For example I nominate Chief Matunda to draft an "Oped" in rebuttal based on PS Ndemo's piece and the supporting posts to be signed by the KICTAnet Community and Vision 2020, and any other entities..
Ali not to pick on you, but I believe Warigia and I are over the seas so would you be willing to act as the treasurer and all supporters can MPESA you their donations for an "AD buy" for the Konza Rebuttal...
Sent from my iPad
Begin forwarded message:
From: Warigia Bowman <warigia@gmail.com> Date: August 11, 2012 10:31:08 AM EDT To: lkimani@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Dear Daktari Ndemo
I am really sorry this has happened to you. As I said to one of my coworkers, if every permanent secretary were like Bitange Ndemo, Kenya would be in good shape politically and economically.
I join my colleagues in extending my support and loyalty.
Sincerely, Warigia
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:56 AM, John Kieti <jkieti@gmail.com> wrote: Bwana Ndemo, et al
The many of us in support may not be individually as powerful as the few 'powerful' forces against you. That said, our combined support will be too strong to wish away for any 'evil' force.
Just tell us when and how to engage ...
On Aug 10, 2012 10:17 AM, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Daktari
Let me add my voice of support on this.
There's a saying that one of the most vulnerable moments in aviation is when a plane is taking off and about to land. That's where I think Konza Techno City is. We must all in any way we can continue to support this model of progress in Africa.
Daktari, having said that you didn't really think that it was going to be easy right? The forces of darkness and quick bucks will not let it be unless they have their pound of flesh. Unfortunately the same tools that progressive forces use to move their agenda are the same tools available for the forces of retrogression.
This country has turned the corner for the better. The rule of law actually has a chance to thrive. Hang in there..And as the good bible says - The truth shall set you free!
Ali Hussein
+254 773/713 601113
Sent from my iPhone®
On Aug 10, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
Daktari,
Thank you for taking this bold step to shed pure light on the Konza Techno city site. It is truly unfortunate that the media persist in casting aspersions and (allowing themselves to be used for) mudslinging.
I recall, with clarity, how the print media (and especially Nation) were used during the early stages of TEAMs to try and discredit and bring disrepute to the project, yourself and others who were involved. It was laughable at the time how the newspaper even went as far as making rabid claims that I was fronting for powerful politicians via my company InHand Ltd which had procedurally applied for, and received an allocation in the project. I recall how many times the Anti-corruption commission carried out investigations, and I also recall having to answer a barrage of questions from the good folk at National Intelligence. All because of flimsy lies pushed through the newspapers by unscrupulous journalists who clearly had received the infamous "brown envelope" payoffs to publish dirt.
Needless to say - and as has been pointed out by Mugo. TEAMs survived the negativity and today has totally transformed this country and region. While I know that it is personally tiring, draining and very demoralizing to be a victim of this kind of treatment. Let me add my voice to those who say "Usichoke" - please stay strong, keep the vision, and hold the course. The Konza City project is still at a critical stage that needs your drive and support. Once it gains it's own momentum then you can take a well deserved rest, until then let us all put our shoulders behind this project and push it forward.
Best regards,
Brian
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On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:43 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem.
Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on the locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource.
With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law.
After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers.
This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in the Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country.
We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility.
What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something that has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes.
KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that they question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country.
Ndemo.
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Dear all, It is also my take that there is a fine line (and too many grey areas) between the Public-Private-Partnership framework and the Public Procurement Framework (Law, Rules, Regulations). I would venture to add that targetting the Public Procurement framework might be biting off more than can be chewed. Might it not make more sense to identify the intersections between the two and come up with recommendations aimed at smoothing out inconsistencies/bottlenecks? Best regards, Brian [image: logo] *Brian Munyao Longwe* | Mobile: 254715964281 http://mashilingi.blogspot.com <http://www.facebook.com/brianmunyao> Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/brianmunyao> <http://www.twitter.com/blongwe> Twitter <http://www.twitter.com/blongwe> <http://ke.linkedin.com/pub/brian-munyao-longwe/0/32/254> LinkedIn<http://ke.linkedin.com/pub/brian-munyao-longwe/0/32/254> Contact me: [image: Skype] blongwe Want a signature like mine? <http://r1.wisestamp.com/r/landing?promo=16&dest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisestamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_16> Click here.<http://r1.wisestamp.com/r/landing?promo=16&dest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisestamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_16> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 9:33 AM, John Kariuki < ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Bw. Ndemo,Listers,
The challenge we have,in my view, is that "purchasing" in Kenya is considered equivalent to "procurement". Procurement especially for complex projects starts right from design stage,project planning, packaging, sequencing etc. Any professional can actually procure in his field of specialisation and get "Good value for money".
It is possible to follow that law and yet get very bad value for money. So if the law is to be revised we need to strike a very careful balance between"Public Interest" and "Self Interest". If we follow the rules and get BAD VALUE FOR MONEY, as stated elsewhere in this list,do we still purchase?
In any tender there will always losers(who may be vey competent) and winners. This is the nature of competition.
Should we allow the fight between winners and losers derail our national agenda?
John Kariuki
*From:* "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> *To:* ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Monday, 13 August 2012, 0:07 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Konza Land Issue Attn Matunda and Ali
Lucy, I think we can do more than simply dealing with my issue. The root cause of the problems in this country is the Procurement Law. It was designed to stop former President from stealing. It is the same law today we are using to implement Vision 2030. Today's Nation reports on tender cancellation on the greenfield airport. This is the time neighbouring countries, Ethiopia and Rwanda are building new airports double the size of JKIA in order to create a real hub. We reisk being relegated to some small destination when we have always let with big dreams as a hub.
Just last week the IEBC tender was cancelled because the law is not enabling and risk eroding credibility in this agency as we approach the elections. Public sector is not spending on key projects simply many accounting officers fear arrest. I recall in TEAMS we had to go to Dubai in order to negotiate downwards the bid from Al Catel Lucent since our law had no provision for negotiation. This is how the project was finished below budget.
The other day we were informed of a department that buys a packet of milk for Ksh. 300 which you can purchase at Uchumi for Ksh. 40 and all is legal through open tender. No media has ever attempted to analyze this law which reduces everybody into a robot. There is no rational thinking. At one time I tried to reprimand my officers for buying expensive toilet paper but I was told I risk breaking the law. I could not for example take an advance to buy the toilet papers directly from Uchumi. Here I will have broken the law by single sourcing from Uchumi.
In my view if we want to help our country prosper, let us ask Gaithu and team to conduct a comprehensive analysis of this Law and highlight its ironies. We then prepare a white paper and seek the changes in the law and automate processes to allow the public to see how their resources are spent. Mukhisa Kituyi attempted show the problem in today's Nation.
Ndemo.
Ali,
Great, I will MPESA my donation. Your point re accountability is fair and well taken, and I hope the KICTANET officials will be willing to provide us with details on how supporters of the Konza rebuttal can remit their donations. In the meantime, please collect what is sent your way and you can then submit to KICTANET if they are in agreement.
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 11, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Lucy
Wiling and ready! Probably a good idea though to have an institution like Kictanet do that? So that there is accountability? Any which way I'm ready to support.
Thanks
Ali Hussein
+254 773/713 601113
Sent from my iPhone®
On Aug 11, 2012, at 7:52 PM, Lucy Kimani <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
Warigia, while I echo your sentiments in support of PS Ndemo, the activist in me is wondering why we can't do more... For example I nominate Chief Matunda to draft an "Oped" in rebuttal based on PS Ndemo's piece and the supporting posts to be signed by the KICTAnet Community and Vision 2020, and any other entities..
Ali not to pick on you, but I believe Warigia and I are over the seas so would you be willing to act as the treasurer and all supporters can MPESA you their donations for an "AD buy" for the Konza Rebuttal...
Sent from my iPad
Begin forwarded message:
From: Warigia Bowman <warigia@gmail.com> Date: August 11, 2012 10:31:08 AM EDT To: lkimani@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Dear Daktari Ndemo
I am really sorry this has happened to you. As I said to one of my coworkers, if every permanent secretary were like Bitange Ndemo, Kenya would be in good shape politically and economically.
I join my colleagues in extending my support and loyalty.
Sincerely, Warigia
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:56 AM, John Kieti <jkieti@gmail.com> wrote: Bwana Ndemo, et al
The many of us in support may not be individually as powerful as the few 'powerful' forces against you. That said, our combined support will be too strong to wish away for any 'evil' force.
Just tell us when and how to engage ...
On Aug 10, 2012 10:17 AM, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Daktari
Let me add my voice of support on this.
There's a saying that one of the most vulnerable moments in aviation is when a plane is taking off and about to land. That's where I think Konza Techno City is. We must all in any way we can continue to support this model of progress in Africa.
Daktari, having said that you didn't really think that it was going to be easy right? The forces of darkness and quick bucks will not let it be unless they have their pound of flesh. Unfortunately the same tools that progressive forces use to move their agenda are the same tools available for the forces of retrogression.
This country has turned the corner for the better. The rule of law actually has a chance to thrive. Hang in there..And as the good bible says - The truth shall set you free!
Ali Hussein
+254 773/713 601113
Sent from my iPhone®
On Aug 10, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
Daktari,
Thank you for taking this bold step to shed pure light on the Konza Techno city site. It is truly unfortunate that the media persist in casting aspersions and (allowing themselves to be used for) mudslinging.
I recall, with clarity, how the print media (and especially Nation) were used during the early stages of TEAMs to try and discredit and bring disrepute to the project, yourself and others who were involved. It was laughable at the time how the newspaper even went as far as making rabid claims that I was fronting for powerful politicians via my company InHand Ltd which had procedurally applied for, and received an allocation in the project. I recall how many times the Anti-corruption commission carried out investigations, and I also recall having to answer a barrage of questions from the good folk at National Intelligence. All because of flimsy lies pushed through the newspapers by unscrupulous journalists who clearly had received the infamous "brown envelope" payoffs to publish dirt.
Needless to say - and as has been pointed out by Mugo. TEAMs survived the negativity and today has totally transformed this country and region. While I know that it is personally tiring, draining and very demoralizing to be a victim of this kind of treatment. Let me add my voice to those who say "Usichoke" - please stay strong, keep the vision, and hold the course. The Konza City project is still at a critical stage that needs your drive and support. Once it gains it's own momentum then you can take a well deserved rest, until then let us all put our shoulders behind this project and push it forward.
Best regards,
Brian
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On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:43 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem.
Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on the locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource.
With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law.
After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers.
This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in the Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country.
We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility.
What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something that has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes.
KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that they question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country.
Ndemo.
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Listers, There seems to be a lot of grey areas in the Procurement Act and, going by Dr. Ndemo's as well as most of the issues coming out, the problem is actually the Procurement Law. Maybe, as a starting point, in my view, as a layman, we need to have the Act attached so that we may have a look at it, critically. Further, to this specific issue, can there be documents which show the concept to final selection of Konza as the best option for putting up Tech City? Maybe, just maybe, we can see where the rain startd beating us. Solomon On 13/08/2012, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear all,
It is also my take that there is a fine line (and too many grey areas) between the Public-Private-Partnership framework and the Public Procurement Framework (Law, Rules, Regulations).
I would venture to add that targetting the Public Procurement framework might be biting off more than can be chewed. Might it not make more sense to identify the intersections between the two and come up with recommendations aimed at smoothing out inconsistencies/bottlenecks?
Best regards,
Brian
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On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 9:33 AM, John Kariuki < ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Bw. Ndemo,Listers,
The challenge we have,in my view, is that "purchasing" in Kenya is considered equivalent to "procurement". Procurement especially for complex projects starts right from design stage,project planning, packaging, sequencing etc. Any professional can actually procure in his field of specialisation and get "Good value for money".
It is possible to follow that law and yet get very bad value for money. So if the law is to be revised we need to strike a very careful balance between"Public Interest" and "Self Interest". If we follow the rules and get BAD VALUE FOR MONEY, as stated elsewhere in this list,do we still purchase?
In any tender there will always losers(who may be vey competent) and winners. This is the nature of competition.
Should we allow the fight between winners and losers derail our national agenda?
John Kariuki
*From:* "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> *To:* ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Monday, 13 August 2012, 0:07 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Konza Land Issue Attn Matunda and Ali
Lucy, I think we can do more than simply dealing with my issue. The root cause of the problems in this country is the Procurement Law. It was designed to stop former President from stealing. It is the same law today we are using to implement Vision 2030. Today's Nation reports on tender cancellation on the greenfield airport. This is the time neighbouring countries, Ethiopia and Rwanda are building new airports double the size of JKIA in order to create a real hub. We reisk being relegated to some small destination when we have always let with big dreams as a hub.
Just last week the IEBC tender was cancelled because the law is not enabling and risk eroding credibility in this agency as we approach the elections. Public sector is not spending on key projects simply many accounting officers fear arrest. I recall in TEAMS we had to go to Dubai in order to negotiate downwards the bid from Al Catel Lucent since our law had no provision for negotiation. This is how the project was finished below budget.
The other day we were informed of a department that buys a packet of milk for Ksh. 300 which you can purchase at Uchumi for Ksh. 40 and all is legal through open tender. No media has ever attempted to analyze this law which reduces everybody into a robot. There is no rational thinking. At one time I tried to reprimand my officers for buying expensive toilet paper but I was told I risk breaking the law. I could not for example take an advance to buy the toilet papers directly from Uchumi. Here I will have broken the law by single sourcing from Uchumi.
In my view if we want to help our country prosper, let us ask Gaithu and team to conduct a comprehensive analysis of this Law and highlight its ironies. We then prepare a white paper and seek the changes in the law and automate processes to allow the public to see how their resources are spent. Mukhisa Kituyi attempted show the problem in today's Nation.
Ndemo.
Ali,
Great, I will MPESA my donation. Your point re accountability is fair and well taken, and I hope the KICTANET officials will be willing to provide us with details on how supporters of the Konza rebuttal can remit their donations. In the meantime, please collect what is sent your way and you can then submit to KICTANET if they are in agreement.
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 11, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Lucy
Wiling and ready! Probably a good idea though to have an institution like Kictanet do that? So that there is accountability? Any which way I'm ready to support.
Thanks
Ali Hussein
+254 773/713 601113
Sent from my iPhone®
On Aug 11, 2012, at 7:52 PM, Lucy Kimani <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
Warigia, while I echo your sentiments in support of PS Ndemo, the activist in me is wondering why we can't do more... For example I nominate Chief Matunda to draft an "Oped" in rebuttal based on PS Ndemo's piece and the supporting posts to be signed by the KICTAnet Community and Vision 2020, and any other entities..
Ali not to pick on you, but I believe Warigia and I are over the seas so would you be willing to act as the treasurer and all supporters can MPESA you their donations for an "AD buy" for the Konza Rebuttal...
Sent from my iPad
Begin forwarded message:
From: Warigia Bowman <warigia@gmail.com> Date: August 11, 2012 10:31:08 AM EDT To: lkimani@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Dear Daktari Ndemo
I am really sorry this has happened to you. As I said to one of my coworkers, if every permanent secretary were like Bitange Ndemo, Kenya would be in good shape politically and economically.
I join my colleagues in extending my support and loyalty.
Sincerely, Warigia
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:56 AM, John Kieti <jkieti@gmail.com> wrote: Bwana Ndemo, et al
The many of us in support may not be individually as powerful as the few 'powerful' forces against you. That said, our combined support will be too strong to wish away for any 'evil' force.
Just tell us when and how to engage ...
On Aug 10, 2012 10:17 AM, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Daktari
Let me add my voice of support on this.
There's a saying that one of the most vulnerable moments in aviation is when a plane is taking off and about to land. That's where I think Konza Techno City is. We must all in any way we can continue to support this model of progress in Africa.
Daktari, having said that you didn't really think that it was going to be easy right? The forces of darkness and quick bucks will not let it be unless they have their pound of flesh. Unfortunately the same tools that progressive forces use to move their agenda are the same tools available for the forces of retrogression.
This country has turned the corner for the better. The rule of law actually has a chance to thrive. Hang in there..And as the good bible says - The truth shall set you free!
Ali Hussein
+254 773/713 601113
Sent from my iPhone®
On Aug 10, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
> Daktari, > > Thank you for taking this bold step to shed pure light on the Konza > Techno city site. It is truly unfortunate that the media persist in > casting aspersions and (allowing themselves to be used for) > mudslinging. > > I recall, with clarity, how the print media (and especially Nation) > were used during the early stages of TEAMs to try and discredit and > bring disrepute to the project, yourself and others who were > involved. It was laughable at the time how the newspaper even went > as > far as making rabid claims that I was fronting for powerful > politicians via my company InHand Ltd which had procedurally > applied > for, and received an allocation in the project. I recall how many > times the Anti-corruption commission carried out investigations, > and > I also recall having to answer a barrage of questions from the good > folk at National Intelligence. All because of flimsy lies pushed > through the newspapers by unscrupulous journalists who clearly had > received the infamous "brown envelope" payoffs to publish dirt. > > Needless to say - and as has been pointed out by Mugo. TEAMs > survived > the negativity and today has totally transformed this country and > region. While I know that it is personally tiring, draining and > very > demoralizing to be a victim of this kind of treatment. Let me add > my > voice to those who say "Usichoke" - please stay strong, keep the > vision, and hold the course. The Konza City project is still at a > critical stage that needs your drive and support. Once it gains > it's > own momentum then you can take a well deserved rest, until then let > us all put our shoulders behind this project and push it forward. > > Best regards, > > Brian > > > Brian Munyao Longwe > | Mobile: 254715964281 > http://mashilingi.blogspot.com/
> Facebook Twitter LinkedIn > Contact me: blongwe > Want a signature like mine? Click here. > > > > On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:43 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: > Listers, > A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza > Land > issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the > problem. > > Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework > on > the > locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work > done > by > Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city > must > be > located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the > outskirts > of a > major city from where you can tap the human resource. > > With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable > land > within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done > openly > and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that > the > definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere > without > restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land > in > Wajir > will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the > procurement > law. > > After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands > to > give > us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. > Since > most > quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece > and > offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders > one > is > not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the > country. > Here it is said we manipulated the numbers. > > This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas > in > the > Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted > tendering > to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and > one > that is in the interest of the country. > > We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order > and > we > were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the > departments but > I bear the ultimate responsibility. > > What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to > highlight > this > issue while we were having the Konza conference here with > international > investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya > has > changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great > damage > to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something > that > has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term > than > mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have > taken > risky > decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we > only > rejoice on successes. > > KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they > were > on > our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that > they > question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change > laws > and make them dynamic with changing times. 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Dear all, As you will see from the below. Public Procurement is an "elephant". Which part do we hold/focus on? Public Procurement and Disposal Act 2005<http://www.ppoa.go.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&id=50&Itemid=132> Public Procurement and Disposal Regulations <http://www.ppoa.go.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=226:regulations&catid=61:downloads&Itemid=157> - Public Private Partnership Regulations 2009<http://www.ppoa.go.ke/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=0&task=view.download&catid=18&cid=370> - Public Procurement amendment Regulations 2009<http://www.ppoa.go.ke/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=0&task=view.download&catid=18&cid=371> Procurement Manuals <http://www.ppoa.go.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=222:manuals&catid=61:downloads&Itemid=157> Procurement Reporting Formats<http://www.ppoa.go.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=227:reporting-framework&catid=61:downloads&Itemid=157> Framework Contracting Guidelines<http://www.ppoa.go.ke/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=0&task=finish&cid=506&catid=15> [image: logo] *Brian Munyao Longwe* | Mobile: 254715964281 http://mashilingi.blogspot.com <http://www.facebook.com/brianmunyao> Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/brianmunyao> <http://www.twitter.com/blongwe> Twitter <http://www.twitter.com/blongwe> <http://ke.linkedin.com/pub/brian-munyao-longwe/0/32/254> LinkedIn<http://ke.linkedin.com/pub/brian-munyao-longwe/0/32/254> Contact me: [image: Skype] blongwe Want a signature like mine? <http://r1.wisestamp.com/r/landing?promo=16&dest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisestamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_16> Click here.<http://r1.wisestamp.com/r/landing?promo=16&dest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisestamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_16> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
Listers,
There seems to be a lot of grey areas in the Procurement Act and, going by Dr. Ndemo's as well as most of the issues coming out, the problem is actually the Procurement Law.
Maybe, as a starting point, in my view, as a layman, we need to have the Act attached so that we may have a look at it, critically. Further, to this specific issue, can there be documents which show the concept to final selection of Konza as the best option for putting up Tech City?
Maybe, just maybe, we can see where the rain startd beating us.
Solomon
Dear all,
It is also my take that there is a fine line (and too many grey areas) between the Public-Private-Partnership framework and the Public Procurement Framework (Law, Rules, Regulations).
I would venture to add that targetting the Public Procurement framework might be biting off more than can be chewed. Might it not make more sense to identify the intersections between the two and come up with recommendations aimed at smoothing out inconsistencies/bottlenecks?
Best regards,
Brian
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On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 9:33 AM, John Kariuki < ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Bw. Ndemo,Listers,
The challenge we have,in my view, is that "purchasing" in Kenya is considered equivalent to "procurement". Procurement especially for complex projects starts right from design stage,project planning, packaging, sequencing etc. Any professional can actually procure in his field of specialisation and get "Good value for money".
It is possible to follow that law and yet get very bad value for money. So if the law is to be revised we need to strike a very careful balance between"Public Interest" and "Self Interest". If we follow the rules and get BAD VALUE FOR MONEY, as stated elsewhere in this list,do we still purchase?
In any tender there will always losers(who may be vey competent) and winners. This is the nature of competition.
Should we allow the fight between winners and losers derail our national agenda?
John Kariuki
*From:* "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> *To:* ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Monday, 13 August 2012, 0:07 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Konza Land Issue Attn Matunda and Ali
Lucy, I think we can do more than simply dealing with my issue. The root cause of the problems in this country is the Procurement Law. It was designed to stop former President from stealing. It is the same law today we are using to implement Vision 2030. Today's Nation reports on tender cancellation on the greenfield airport. This is the time neighbouring countries, Ethiopia and Rwanda are building new airports double the size of JKIA in order to create a real hub. We reisk being relegated to some small destination when we have always let with big dreams as a hub.
Just last week the IEBC tender was cancelled because the law is not enabling and risk eroding credibility in this agency as we approach the elections. Public sector is not spending on key projects simply many accounting officers fear arrest. I recall in TEAMS we had to go to Dubai in order to negotiate downwards the bid from Al Catel Lucent since our law had no provision for negotiation. This is how the project was finished below budget.
The other day we were informed of a department that buys a packet of milk for Ksh. 300 which you can purchase at Uchumi for Ksh. 40 and all is legal through open tender. No media has ever attempted to analyze this law which reduces everybody into a robot. There is no rational thinking. At one time I tried to reprimand my officers for buying expensive toilet paper but I was told I risk breaking the law. I could not for example take an advance to buy the toilet papers directly from Uchumi. Here I will have broken the law by single sourcing from Uchumi.
In my view if we want to help our country prosper, let us ask Gaithu and team to conduct a comprehensive analysis of this Law and highlight its ironies. We then prepare a white paper and seek the changes in the law and automate processes to allow the public to see how their resources are spent. Mukhisa Kituyi attempted show the problem in today's Nation.
Ndemo.
Ali,
Great, I will MPESA my donation. Your point re accountability is fair and well taken, and I hope the KICTANET officials will be willing to provide us with details on how supporters of the Konza rebuttal can remit
donations. In the meantime, please collect what is sent your way and you can then submit to KICTANET if they are in agreement.
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On Aug 11, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Lucy
Wiling and ready! Probably a good idea though to have an institution like Kictanet do that? So that there is accountability? Any which way I'm ready to support.
Thanks
Ali Hussein
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On Aug 11, 2012, at 7:52 PM, Lucy Kimani <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
Warigia, while I echo your sentiments in support of PS Ndemo, the activist in me is wondering why we can't do more... For example I nominate Chief Matunda to draft an "Oped" in rebuttal based on PS Ndemo's piece and the supporting posts to be signed by the KICTAnet Community and Vision 2020, and any other entities..
Ali not to pick on you, but I believe Warigia and I are over the seas so would you be willing to act as the treasurer and all supporters can MPESA you their donations for an "AD buy" for the Konza Rebuttal...
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> From: Warigia Bowman <warigia@gmail.com> > Date: August 11, 2012 10:31:08 AM EDT > To: lkimani@yahoo.com > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue > > Dear Daktari Ndemo > > I am really sorry this has happened to you. As I said to one of my > coworkers, if every permanent secretary were like Bitange Ndemo, > Kenya > would be in good shape politically and economically. > > I join my colleagues in extending my support and loyalty. > > Sincerely, Warigia > > On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:56 AM, John Kieti <jkieti@gmail.com> > wrote: > Bwana Ndemo, et al > > The many of us in support may not be individually as powerful as
> few 'powerful' forces against you. That said, our combined support > will be too strong to wish away for any 'evil' force. > > Just tell us when and how to engage ... > > On Aug 10, 2012 10:17 AM, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: > Daktari > > Let me add my voice of support on this. > > There's a saying that one of the most vulnerable moments in aviation > is when a plane is taking off and about to land. That's where I > think > Konza Techno City is. We must all in any way we can continue to > support this model of progress in Africa. > > Daktari, having said that you didn't really think that it was going > to > be easy right? The forces of darkness and quick bucks will not let > it > be unless they have their pound of flesh. Unfortunately the same > tools > that progressive forces use to move their agenda are the same tools > available for the forces of retrogression. > > This country has turned the corner for the better. The rule of law > actually has a chance to thrive. Hang in there..And as the good > bible > says - The truth shall set you free! > > Ali Hussein > > +254 773/713 601113 > > Sent from my iPhone® > > On Aug 10, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe < blongwe@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Daktari, >> >> Thank you for taking this bold step to shed pure light on the Konza >> Techno city site. It is truly unfortunate that the media persist in >> casting aspersions and (allowing themselves to be used for) >> mudslinging. >> >> I recall, with clarity, how the print media (and especially Nation) >> were used during the early stages of TEAMs to try and discredit and >> bring disrepute to the project, yourself and others who were >> involved. It was laughable at the time how the newspaper even went >> as >> far as making rabid claims that I was fronting for powerful >> politicians via my company InHand Ltd which had procedurally >> applied >> for, and received an allocation in the project. I recall how many >> times the Anti-corruption commission carried out investigations, >> and >> I also recall having to answer a barrage of questions from the good >> folk at National Intelligence. All because of flimsy lies pushed >> through the newspapers by unscrupulous journalists who clearly had >> received the infamous "brown envelope" payoffs to publish dirt. >> >> Needless to say - and as has been pointed out by Mugo. TEAMs >> survived >> the negativity and today has totally transformed this country and >> region. While I know that it is personally tiring, draining and >> very >> demoralizing to be a victim of this kind of treatment. Let me add >> my >> voice to those who say "Usichoke" - please stay strong, keep the >> vision, and hold the course. The Konza City project is still at a >> critical stage that needs your drive and support. Once it gains >> it's >> own momentum then you can take a well deserved rest, until then let >> us all put our shoulders behind this project and push it forward. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Brian >> >> >> Brian Munyao Longwe >> | Mobile: 254715964281 >> http://mashilingi.blogspot.com/
>> Facebook Twitter LinkedIn >> Contact me: blongwe >> Want a signature like mine? Click here. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:43 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: >> Listers, >> A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza >> Land >> issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain
>> problem. >> >> Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework >> on >> the >> locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work >> done >> by >> Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city >> must >> be >> located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the >> outskirts >> of a >> major city from where you can tap the human resource. >> >> With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable >> land >> within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done >> openly >> and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that >> the >> definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere >> without >> restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land >> in >> Wajir >> will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the >> procurement >> law. >> >> After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands >> to >> give >> us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. >> Since >> most >> quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece >> and >> offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders >> one >> is >> not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the >> country. >> Here it is said we manipulated the numbers. >> >> This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas >> in >> the >> Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted >> tendering >> to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and >> one >> that is in the interest of the country. >> >> We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order >> and >> we >> were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the >> departments but >> I bear the ultimate responsibility. >> >> What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to >> highlight >> this >> issue while we were having the Konza conference here with >> international >> investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya >> has >> changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great >> damage >> to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something >> that >> has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term >> than >> mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have >> taken >> risky >> decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we >> only >> rejoice on successes. >> >> KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they >> were >> on >> our case all through until the project was complete. The fact
>> they >> question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change >> laws >> and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect >> the >> Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did >> was >> right >> and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. >> Never >> in >> my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the >> interest of >> the country. >> >> Ndemo. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>
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Dr. Ndemo, Listers Good morning. It is important for Dr. Ndemo to pen an op-ed piece as a response to the article carried out last week. This will not only set the record straight but will also bring to fore the complicated procurement processes that have to be followed. Further, coming from Dr. Ndemo, it will be seen to carry more weight. Dr. Ndemo, you have the "right of reply" to correct the inaccuracies. This is a fair opportunity that media houses will give you. Further, your piece will provide the media with an opportunity to build on, and do the comprehensive analysis of the processes. I do remember one time the PM complained about the procurement processes that require over 21 signatures for approval. Listers can further come up with an advocacy process /campaign on specific recommendations to change the Procurement Act. And by the way Listers, it is not only Macharia Gaitho who is on this list. We have many other editors and journalists on board. I know they are listening. Kind RegardsGrace
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 00:07:23 +0300 From: bitange@jambo.co.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Konza Land Issue Attn Matunda and Ali CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com
Lucy, I think we can do more than simply dealing with my issue. The root cause of the problems in this country is the Procurement Law. It was designed to stop former President from stealing. It is the same law today we are using to implement Vision 2030. Today's Nation reports on tender cancellation on the greenfield airport. This is the time neighbouring countries, Ethiopia and Rwanda are building new airports double the size of JKIA in order to create a real hub. We reisk being relegated to some small destination when we have always let with big dreams as a hub.
Just last week the IEBC tender was cancelled because the law is not enabling and risk eroding credibility in this agency as we approach the elections. Public sector is not spending on key projects simply many accounting officers fear arrest. I recall in TEAMS we had to go to Dubai in order to negotiate downwards the bid from Al Catel Lucent since our law had no provision for negotiation. This is how the project was finished below budget.
The other day we were informed of a department that buys a packet of milk for Ksh. 300 which you can purchase at Uchumi for Ksh. 40 and all is legal through open tender. No media has ever attempted to analyze this law which reduces everybody into a robot. There is no rational thinking. At one time I tried to reprimand my officers for buying expensive toilet paper but I was told I risk breaking the law. I could not for example take an advance to buy the toilet papers directly from Uchumi. Here I will have broken the law by single sourcing from Uchumi.
In my view if we want to help our country prosper, let us ask Gaithu and team to conduct a comprehensive analysis of this Law and highlight its ironies. We then prepare a white paper and seek the changes in the law and automate processes to allow the public to see how their resources are spent. Mukhisa Kituyi attempted show the problem in today's Nation.
Ndemo.
Ali,
Great, I will MPESA my donation. Your point re accountability is fair and well taken, and I hope the KICTANET officials will be willing to provide us with details on how supporters of the Konza rebuttal can remit their donations. In the meantime, please collect what is sent your way and you can then submit to KICTANET if they are in agreement.
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On Aug 11, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Lucy
Wiling and ready! Probably a good idea though to have an institution like Kictanet do that? So that there is accountability? Any which way I'm ready to support.
Thanks
Ali Hussein
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On Aug 11, 2012, at 7:52 PM, Lucy Kimani <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
Warigia, while I echo your sentiments in support of PS Ndemo, the activist in me is wondering why we can't do more... For example I nominate Chief Matunda to draft an "Oped" in rebuttal based on PS Ndemo's piece and the supporting posts to be signed by the KICTAnet Community and Vision 2020, and any other entities..
Ali not to pick on you, but I believe Warigia and I are over the seas so would you be willing to act as the treasurer and all supporters can MPESA you their donations for an "AD buy" for the Konza Rebuttal...
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From: Warigia Bowman <warigia@gmail.com> Date: August 11, 2012 10:31:08 AM EDT To: lkimani@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Dear Daktari Ndemo
I am really sorry this has happened to you. As I said to one of my coworkers, if every permanent secretary were like Bitange Ndemo, Kenya would be in good shape politically and economically.
I join my colleagues in extending my support and loyalty.
Sincerely, Warigia
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:56 AM, John Kieti <jkieti@gmail.com> wrote: Bwana Ndemo, et al
The many of us in support may not be individually as powerful as the few 'powerful' forces against you. That said, our combined support will be too strong to wish away for any 'evil' force.
Just tell us when and how to engage ...
On Aug 10, 2012 10:17 AM, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Daktari
Let me add my voice of support on this.
There's a saying that one of the most vulnerable moments in aviation is when a plane is taking off and about to land. That's where I think Konza Techno City is. We must all in any way we can continue to support this model of progress in Africa.
Daktari, having said that you didn't really think that it was going to be easy right? The forces of darkness and quick bucks will not let it be unless they have their pound of flesh. Unfortunately the same tools that progressive forces use to move their agenda are the same tools available for the forces of retrogression.
This country has turned the corner for the better. The rule of law actually has a chance to thrive. Hang in there..And as the good bible says - The truth shall set you free!
Ali Hussein
+254 773/713 601113
Sent from my iPhone®
On Aug 10, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
Daktari,
Thank you for taking this bold step to shed pure light on the Konza Techno city site. It is truly unfortunate that the media persist in casting aspersions and (allowing themselves to be used for) mudslinging.
I recall, with clarity, how the print media (and especially Nation) were used during the early stages of TEAMs to try and discredit and bring disrepute to the project, yourself and others who were involved. It was laughable at the time how the newspaper even went as far as making rabid claims that I was fronting for powerful politicians via my company InHand Ltd which had procedurally applied for, and received an allocation in the project. I recall how many times the Anti-corruption commission carried out investigations, and I also recall having to answer a barrage of questions from the good folk at National Intelligence. All because of flimsy lies pushed through the newspapers by unscrupulous journalists who clearly had received the infamous "brown envelope" payoffs to publish dirt.
Needless to say - and as has been pointed out by Mugo. TEAMs survived the negativity and today has totally transformed this country and region. While I know that it is personally tiring, draining and very demoralizing to be a victim of this kind of treatment. Let me add my voice to those who say "Usichoke" - please stay strong, keep the vision, and hold the course. The Konza City project is still at a critical stage that needs your drive and support. Once it gains it's own momentum then you can take a well deserved rest, until then let us all put our shoulders behind this project and push it forward.
Best regards,
Brian
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On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:43 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem.
Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on the locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource.
With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law.
After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers.
This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in the Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country.
We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility.
What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something that has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes.
KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that they question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country.
Ndemo.
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Dear Listers, Whilst I support the idea of an op-ed piece, that will mainly (if not only) be directed at the readers (or indeed audiences) of a particular media house - I suppose the Nation. In other words, there are many others who might miss the 'story' if they are not readers/consumers of that particular newspaper. I would propose a press conference for Dr Ndemo to explain to the media (and of course to the country) what happened and to answer any questions the journalists (and the media houses) may have. In other words, a press conference, in addition to interviews on TV and radio, offers him a better opportunity to explain what the project entails, and shed light on various issues surrounding the Konza land issue. Best wishes, Dr George Nyabuga Tel: +230 403 51 00 Head, Communications and PR, AFRINIC Fax: +230 466 67 58 george@afrinic.net - www.afrinic.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Join us at AFRINIC-17 for our Public Policy Meeting in Khartoum, Sudan, on 24 – 30 November 2012 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Aug 13, 2012, at 12:36 PM, Grace Githaiga wrote:
Dr. Ndemo, Listers
Good morning.
It is important for Dr. Ndemo to pen an op-ed piece as a response to the article carried out last week. This will not only set the record straight but will also bring to fore the complicated procurement processes that have to be followed. Further, coming from Dr. Ndemo, it will be seen to carry more weight. Dr. Ndemo, you have the "right of reply" to correct the inaccuracies. This is a fair opportunity that media houses will give you.
Further, your piece will provide the media with an opportunity to build on, and do the comprehensive analysis of the processes. I do remember one time the PM complained about the procurement processes that require over 21 signatures for approval. Listers can further come up with an advocacy process /campaign on specific recommendations to change the Procurement Act.
And by the way Listers, it is not only Macharia Gaitho who is on this list. We have many other editors and journalists on board. I know they are listening.
Kind Regards Grace
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 00:07:23 +0300 From: bitange@jambo.co.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Konza Land Issue Attn Matunda and Ali CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com
Lucy, I think we can do more than simply dealing with my issue. The root cause of the problems in this country is the Procurement Law. It was designed to stop former President from stealing. It is the same law today we are using to implement Vision 2030. Today's Nation reports on tender cancellation on the greenfield airport. This is the time neighbouring countries, Ethiopia and Rwanda are building new airports double the size of JKIA in order to create a real hub. We reisk being relegated to some small destination when we have always let with big dreams as a hub.
Just last week the IEBC tender was cancelled because the law is not enabling and risk eroding credibility in this agency as we approach the elections. Public sector is not spending on key projects simply many accounting officers fear arrest. I recall in TEAMS we had to go to Dubai in order to negotiate downwards the bid from Al Catel Lucent since our law had no provision for negotiation. This is how the project was finished below budget.
The other day we were informed of a department that buys a packet of milk for Ksh. 300 which you can purchase at Uchumi for Ksh. 40 and all is legal through open tender. No media has ever attempted to analyze this law which reduces everybody into a robot. There is no rational thinking. At one time I tried to reprimand my officers for buying expensive toilet paper but I was told I risk breaking the law. I could not for example take an advance to buy the toilet papers directly from Uchumi. Here I will have broken the law by single sourcing from Uchumi.
In my view if we want to help our country prosper, let us ask Gaithu and team to conduct a comprehensive analysis of this Law and highlight its ironies. We then prepare a white paper and seek the changes in the law and automate processes to allow the public to see how their resources are spent. Mukhisa Kituyi attempted show the problem in today's Nation.
Ndemo.
Ali,
Great, I will MPESA my donation. Your point re accountability is fair and well taken, and I hope the KICTANET officials will be willing to provide us with details on how supporters of the Konza rebuttal can remit their donations. In the meantime, please collect what is sent your way and you can then submit to KICTANET if they are in agreement.
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On Aug 11, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Lucy
Wiling and ready! Probably a good idea though to have an institution like Kictanet do that? So that there is accountability? Any which way I'm ready to support.
Thanks
Ali Hussein
+254 773/713 601113
Sent from my iPhone®
On Aug 11, 2012, at 7:52 PM, Lucy Kimani <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
Warigia, while I echo your sentiments in support of PS Ndemo, the activist in me is wondering why we can't do more... For example I nominate Chief Matunda to draft an "Oped" in rebuttal based on PS Ndemo's piece and the supporting posts to be signed by the KICTAnet Community and Vision 2020, and any other entities..
Ali not to pick on you, but I believe Warigia and I are over the seas so would you be willing to act as the treasurer and all supporters can MPESA you their donations for an "AD buy" for the Konza Rebuttal...
Sent from my iPad
Begin forwarded message:
From: Warigia Bowman <warigia@gmail.com> Date: August 11, 2012 10:31:08 AM EDT To: lkimani@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Dear Daktari Ndemo
I am really sorry this has happened to you. As I said to one of my coworkers, if every permanent secretary were like Bitange Ndemo, Kenya would be in good shape politically and economically.
I join my colleagues in extending my support and loyalty.
Sincerely, Warigia
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:56 AM, John Kieti <jkieti@gmail.com> wrote: Bwana Ndemo, et al
The many of us in support may not be individually as powerful as the few 'powerful' forces against you. That said, our combined support will be too strong to wish away for any 'evil' force.
Just tell us when and how to engage ...
On Aug 10, 2012 10:17 AM, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Daktari
Let me add my voice of support on this.
There's a saying that one of the most vulnerable moments in aviation is when a plane is taking off and about to land. That's where I think Konza Techno City is. We must all in any way we can continue to support this model of progress in Africa.
Daktari, having said that you didn't really think that it was going to be easy right? The forces of darkness and quick bucks will not let it be unless they have their pound of flesh. Unfortunately the same tools that progressive forces use to move their agenda are the same tools available for the forces of retrogression.
This country has turned the corner for the better. The rule of law actually has a chance to thrive. Hang in there..And as the good bible says - The truth shall set you free!
Ali Hussein
+254 773/713 601113
Sent from my iPhone®
On Aug 10, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
> Daktari, > > Thank you for taking this bold step to shed pure light on the Konza > Techno city site. It is truly unfortunate that the media persist in > casting aspersions and (allowing themselves to be used for) > mudslinging. > > I recall, with clarity, how the print media (and especially Nation) > were used during the early stages of TEAMs to try and discredit and > bring disrepute to the project, yourself and others who were > involved. It was laughable at the time how the newspaper even went as > far as making rabid claims that I was fronting for powerful > politicians via my company InHand Ltd which had procedurally applied > for, and received an allocation in the project. I recall how many > times the Anti-corruption commission carried out investigations, and > I also recall having to answer a barrage of questions from the good > folk at National Intelligence. All because of flimsy lies pushed > through the newspapers by unscrupulous journalists who clearly had > received the infamous "brown envelope" payoffs to publish dirt. > > Needless to say - and as has been pointed out by Mugo. TEAMs survived > the negativity and today has totally transformed this country and > region. While I know that it is personally tiring, draining and very > demoralizing to be a victim of this kind of treatment. Let me add my > voice to those who say "Usichoke" - please stay strong, keep the > vision, and hold the course. The Konza City project is still at a > critical stage that needs your drive and support. Once it gains it's > own momentum then you can take a well deserved rest, until then let > us all put our shoulders behind this project and push it forward. > > Best regards, > > Brian > > > Brian Munyao Longwe > | Mobile: 254715964281 > http://mashilingi.blogspot.com > Facebook Twitter LinkedIn > Contact me: blongwe > Want a signature like mine? Click here. > > > > On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:43 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: > Listers, > A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land > issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the > problem. > > Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on > the > locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done > by > Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must > be > located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts > of a > major city from where you can tap the human resource. > > With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable > land > within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done > openly > and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the > definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere > without > restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in > Wajir > will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement > law. > > After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to > give > us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since > most > quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece > and > offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one > is > not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the > country. > Here it is said we manipulated the numbers. > > This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in > the > Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted > tendering > to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and > one > that is in the interest of the country. > > We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and > we > were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the > departments but > I bear the ultimate responsibility. > > What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight > this > issue while we were having the Konza conference here with > international > investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya > has > changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great > damage > to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something > that > has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term > than > mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken > risky > decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we > only > rejoice on successes. > > KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were > on > our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that > they > question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change > laws > and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the > Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was > right > and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never > in > my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the > interest of > the country. > > Ndemo. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/blongwe%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder > platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT > policy and regulation. 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John, As was mentioned ealier the issue is not Dr. Ndemo but the survival of the project, the question should be are we willing to stand and be counted in support of the Konza project who would we rather keep preaching to the choir? Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 --- On Sat, 11/8/12, John Kieti <jkieti@gmail.com> wrote: From: John Kieti <jkieti@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Saturday, 11 August, 2012, 13:56 Bwana Ndemo, et al The many of us in support may not be individually as powerful as the few 'powerful' forces against you. That said, our combined support will be too strong to wish away for any 'evil' force. Just tell us when and how to engage ... On Aug 10, 2012 10:17 AM, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Daktari Let me add my voice of support on this. There's a saying that one of the most vulnerable moments in aviation is when a plane is taking off and about to land. That's where I think Konza Techno City is. We must all in any way we can continue to support this model of progress in Africa. Daktari, having said that you didn't really think that it was going to be easy right? The forces of darkness and quick bucks will not let it be unless they have their pound of flesh. Unfortunately the same tools that progressive forces use to move their agenda are the same tools available for the forces of retrogression. This country has turned the corner for the better. The rule of law actually has a chance to thrive. Hang in there..And as the good bible says - The truth shall set you free! Ali Hussein +254 773/713 601113 Sent from my iPhone® On Aug 10, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote: Daktari, Thank you for taking this bold step to shed pure light on the Konza Techno city site. It is truly unfortunate that the media persist in casting aspersions and (allowing themselves to be used for) mudslinging. I recall, with clarity, how the print media (and especially Nation) were used during the early stages of TEAMs to try and discredit and bring disrepute to the project, yourself and others who were involved. It was laughable at the time how the newspaper even went as far as making rabid claims that I was fronting for powerful politicians via my company InHand Ltd which had procedurally applied for, and received an allocation in the project. I recall how many times the Anti-corruption commission carried out investigations, and I also recall having to answer a barrage of questions from the good folk at National Intelligence. All because of flimsy lies pushed through the newspapers by unscrupulous journalists who clearly had received the infamous "brown envelope" payoffs to publish dirt. Needless to say - and as has been pointed out by Mugo. TEAMs survived the negativity and today has totally transformed this country and region. While I know that it is personally tiring, draining and very demoralizing to be a victim of this kind of treatment. Let me add my voice to those who say "Usichoke" - please stay strong, keep the vision, and hold the course. The Konza City project is still at a critical stage that needs your drive and support. Once it gains it's own momentum then you can take a well deserved rest, until then let us all put our shoulders behind this project and push it forward. Best regards, Brian Brian Munyao Longwe | Mobile: 254715964281http://mashilingi.blogspot.com Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Contact me: blongwe Want a signature like mine? Click here. On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:43 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem. Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on the locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource. With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law. After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers. This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in the Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country. We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility. What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something that has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes. KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that they question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country. Ndemo. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/blongwe%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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Managed to attend the last hour of the 1st day of the Konza conference at KICC. Got a touch base with a Kenyan Architect / Urban Planner who did pretty well at UoN + Harvard. There is a lesson for Konza we can all learn from Harvard University. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Harvard_University The *foundation* of everything good starts with a disciplined and ethical minority before the mass (populist) media gives credit to those who opposed the ethical minority. We know you are not on the populist side :) On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:43 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Listers, A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the problem.
Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on the locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a major city from where you can tap the human resource.
With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law.
After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. Here it is said we manipulated the numbers.
This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in the Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one that is in the interest of the country.
We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but I bear the ultimate responsibility.
What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something that has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only rejoice on successes.
KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that they question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of the country.
Ndemo.
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participants (27)
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Ali Hussein -
Alice Munyua -
Areba Collins [ ＠BrainiacKE ® ] -
Barrack Otieno -
Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Interactive Limited] -
bitange＠jambo.co.ke -
Brian Munyao Longwe -
Cleophas Barmasai -
Edith Adera -
Edward Lusega -
Edwin Onchari -
George Nyabuga -
Gilda Odera -
Grace Githaiga -
Ignite Consulting -
John Kariuki -
John Kieti -
Kivuva -
Lucy Kimani -
mugo＠vision2030.go.ke -
Peres Were -
robert yawe -
S.M. Muraya -
Sammy Buruchara -
Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau -
Warigia Bowman -
waudo siganga