Listers, I can't resist but share my pain....that indeed the media can entertain "raw tribal discussions" on live TV! While one may argue that it's reality and we must deal with it, if it divides us and tears us apart, why not pursue other alternatives?...why not take advantage of this defining moment in our history (backed by the current constitution) to build a NEW FOUNDATION and help the country "unlearn" these bad habits that we've been socialized into over the years and has taken us no-where? It's possible to "unlearn"!! The good bible tells us "teach thy children the ways of the Lord and they shall never depart from it"....in the same vein "feed Kenyans with positive vibes and we shall build a stronger and more united country" Media (which forms this important industry represented on this list) is well aware that by their very nature, they "set the agenda and shape public opinion". You have a huge responsibility to play in carving a great future for Kenya, stand up and resist ethnic division in this country. We must build our nation based on development concerns and address issues dear to the hearts of Kenyans. When last time (2007/2008), Bwana Ndemo gave his opinion (official or non-official) about the role the media played in 2007, I wonder if he wasn't right? Where is NCIC? Where is the Media Council? This madness has to stop! Edith (my heart is bleeding for Kenya).
Listers, Many are asking me on the sidelines, to what do I make reference in my post below. For those who watched Citizen TV at Nine yesterday and again listened to Kiss FM this morning (and maybe many other stations are entertaining the same), will agree with me that we MUST UNITE KENYA not divide our beloved country! Edith From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Edith Adera Sent: February 6, 2013 11:14 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: Julie Gichuru; KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Slaying the Tribal Monster! Listers, I can't resist but share my pain....that indeed the media can entertain "raw tribal discussions" on live TV! While one may argue that it's reality and we must deal with it, if it divides us and tears us apart, why not pursue other alternatives?...why not take advantage of this defining moment in our history (backed by the current constitution) to build a NEW FOUNDATION and help the country "unlearn" these bad habits that we've been socialized into over the years and has taken us no-where? It's possible to "unlearn"!! The good bible tells us "teach thy children the ways of the Lord and they shall never depart from it"....in the same vein "feed Kenyans with positive vibes and we shall build a stronger and more united country" Media (which forms this important industry represented on this list) is well aware that by their very nature, they "set the agenda and shape public opinion". You have a huge responsibility to play in carving a great future for Kenya, stand up and resist ethnic division in this country. We must build our nation based on development concerns and address issues dear to the hearts of Kenyans. When last time (2007/2008), Bwana Ndemo gave his opinion (official or non-official) about the role the media played in 2007, I wonder if he wasn't right? Where is NCIC? Where is the Media Council? This madness has to stop! Edith (my heart is bleeding for Kenya).
Edith, We had a press conference today about the same but everytime we raise these issues we get abused by very educated people. Politicians are supposed to expound on their Manifesto in public rallies and on TV but what we have seen is actually an attempt to fan violence through lies. We must refuse this as a people if we love this country. Politicians are ordinarily followers such that if we refuse to listen to their inciting messages, they will revert to something else possibly issues. Ndemo.
Listers,
I can't resist but share my pain....that indeed the media can entertain "raw tribal discussions" on live TV! While one may argue that it's reality and we must deal with it, if it divides us and tears us apart, why not pursue other alternatives?...why not take advantage of this defining moment in our history (backed by the current constitution) to build a NEW FOUNDATION and help the country "unlearn" these bad habits that we've been socialized into over the years and has taken us no-where? It's possible to "unlearn"!!
The good bible tells us "teach thy children the ways of the Lord and they shall never depart from it"....in the same vein "feed Kenyans with positive vibes and we shall build a stronger and more united country"
Media (which forms this important industry represented on this list) is well aware that by their very nature, they "set the agenda and shape public opinion". You have a huge responsibility to play in carving a great future for Kenya, stand up and resist ethnic division in this country. We must build our nation based on development concerns and address issues dear to the hearts of Kenyans.
When last time (2007/2008), Bwana Ndemo gave his opinion (official or non-official) about the role the media played in 2007, I wonder if he wasn't right? Where is NCIC? Where is the Media Council?
This madness has to stop!
Edith (my heart is bleeding for Kenya).
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Hello out there! All the discussions and commitments we have been making within the media industry about the need for restraint have been lost, more so with the coverage of the recent party primaries. For instance, the undue focus and exaggeration of certain situations by the media on Nyanza during the nominations and even now as we go towards the elections point to lack of restraint and a sense of responsibility. Of course there are other examples from other parts of the country. There are credible reports that a number of candidates massively bribed individual journalists and continue to retain some ahead of the elections to skew the reporting in their favour. Some of the demonstration arising from the nominations were manipulated by the media and candidates. The demos, some of which were not necessarily spontaneous, were in some cases reported with glee as if that was what was expected. For instance, I was in Kisumu on Sunday January 20, 2013 when the media reported that "Kisumu was paralyzed" and that Kondele was a "no go zone" and people were asked to avoid the Kisumu-Kakamega road. I went up to Kondele and saw the less than 20 youths who had lit fire on the Kondele -Kibos road. Traffic from Kakamega and Kibos was flowing and I used the route. Most people simply watched them and went about their businesses as usual. The police came within less than ten minutes (actually Kondele Police Station is a stone throw away from the scene) and the youths helped the police to clear the road. Beyond the place- less than 300 hundred metres away, people did not even notice anything was happening. Those (I included) who later watched the TV footage on the incident could not believe both the way the images were presented and the comments. More than ten of my friends who knew I was in Kisumu called me - alarmed - and my assurances that Kisumu was calm fell on deaf years. A number cancelled their trips to Kisumu and also advise others that Kisumu was unsafe. A friend of mine who runs a hotel reported more 5 of his regular guests who were due to arrive that day, canceling their bookings. A two-day meeting with senior journalists and correspondents from all the six counties in Nyanza gave the clearest picture of the extent to which the reporting was manipulated both from Nairobi and locally and the interests and influences that attended to the period and which apparently continue, and will into the actual polling day. Two journalists in one of the counties, were at one time virtually coerced -in the night - by two contesting sides to announce incomplete results and got virtually held hostage when they refused to take the bribe money they were offered. The same groups bribed returning officers and threatened others. In some areas, including Nyatike, some journalists have been completely barred or face such threats due to their perceived support for some candidates. Indeed most of the reports currently being carried by the media are actually sourced from on phone and from sources, both within the government and others that cannot be cannot be described as credible, or capable of giving the true picture of the situation. There is an initiative I am involved in with others, to compile some information on these trends. Journalists were also under pressure or became victims of bribery in other parts of the country including Mombasa, Nairobi, Rift Valley, Central among others. The attitude and interests of some editors and media houses is not encouraging or helpful at all. Some candidates had unfettered access to some media houses to declare themselves winners or "thank" people in their regions for electing them even when they did not win! Talk show hosts in some stations acted and continue to act as party activists in their comments, declaring which candidate will win and the others who will be "taught a lesson". I think we are not being honest and we are going to again debate the role of the media in fueling conflicts after the elections. More ominously, the safety and security of some journalists across the country will be compromised. Oloo Janak. ________________________________ From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: williamjanak@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Slaying the Tribal Monster! Edith, We had a press conference today about the same but everytime we raise these issues we get abused by very educated people. Politicians are supposed to expound on their Manifesto in public rallies and on TV but what we have seen is actually an attempt to fan violence through lies. We must refuse this as a people if we love this country. Politicians are ordinarily followers such that if we refuse to listen to their inciting messages, they will revert to something else possibly issues. Ndemo.
Listers,
I can't resist but share my pain....that indeed the media can entertain "raw tribal discussions" on live TV! While one may argue that it's reality and we must deal with it, if it divides us and tears us apart, why not pursue other alternatives?...why not take advantage of this defining moment in our history (backed by the current constitution) to build a NEW FOUNDATION and help the country "unlearn" these bad habits that we've been socialized into over the years and has taken us no-where? It's possible to "unlearn"!!
The good bible tells us "teach thy children the ways of the Lord and they shall never depart from it"....in the same vein "feed Kenyans with positive vibes and we shall build a stronger and more united country"
Media (which forms this important industry represented on this list) is well aware that by their very nature, they "set the agenda and shape public opinion". You have a huge responsibility to play in carving a great future for Kenya, stand up and resist ethnic division in this country. We must build our nation based on development concerns and address issues dear to the hearts of Kenyans.
When last time (2007/2008), Bwana Ndemo gave his opinion (official or non-official) about the role the media played in 2007, I wonder if he wasn't right? Where is NCIC? Where is the Media Council?
This madness has to stop!
Edith (my heart is bleeding for Kenya).
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Thanks for sharing this Bwana Oloo, This raises some very serious issues around the integrity of our media houses, the selfishness of our political aspirants, and the gullibility of our populace. What measures can be taken to guard against further abuses? Brian On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:12 AM, william janak <williamjanak@yahoo.com>wrote:
Hello out there!
All the discussions and commitments we have been making within the media industry about the need for restraint have been lost, more so with the coverage of the recent party primaries. For instance, the undue focus and exaggeration of certain situations by the media on Nyanza during the nominations and even now as we go towards the elections point to lack of restraint and a sense of responsibility. Of course there are other examples from other parts of the country.
There are credible reports that a number of candidates massively bribed individual journalists and continue to retain some ahead of the elections to skew the reporting in their favour. Some of the demonstration arising from the nominations were manipulated by the media and candidates. The demos, some of which were not necessarily spontaneous, were in some cases reported with glee as if that was what was expected.
For instance, I was in Kisumu on Sunday January 20, 2013 when the media reported that "Kisumu was paralyzed" and that Kondele was a "no go zone" and people were asked to avoid the Kisumu-Kakamega road. I went up to Kondele and saw the less than 20 youths who had lit fire on the Kondele -Kibos road. Traffic from Kakamega and Kibos was flowing and I used the route.
Most people simply watched them and went about their businesses as usual. The police came within less than ten minutes (actually Kondele Police Station is a stone throw away from the scene) and the youths helped the police to clear the road. Beyond the place- less than 300 hundred metres away, people did not even notice anything was happening. Those (I included) who later watched the TV footage on the incident could not believe both the way the images were presented and the comments.
More than ten of my friends who knew I was in Kisumu called me - alarmed - and my assurances that Kisumu was calm fell on deaf years. A number cancelled their trips to Kisumu and also advise others that Kisumu was unsafe. A friend of mine who runs a hotel reported more 5 of his regular guests who were due to arrive that day, canceling their bookings.
A two-day meeting with senior journalists and correspondents from all the six counties in Nyanza gave the clearest picture of the extent to which the reporting was manipulated both from Nairobi and locally and the interests and influences that attended to the period and which apparently continue, and will into the actual polling day.
Two journalists in one of the counties, were at one time virtually coerced -in the night - by two contesting sides to announce incomplete results and got virtually held hostage when they refused to take the bribe money they were offered. The same groups bribed returning officers and threatened others.
In some areas, including Nyatike, some journalists have been completely barred or face such threats due to their perceived support for some candidates. Indeed most of the reports currently being carried by the media are actually sourced from on phone and from sources, both within the government and others that cannot be cannot be described as credible, or capable of giving the true picture of the situation.
There is an initiative I am involved in with others, to compile some information on these trends. Journalists were also under pressure or became victims of bribery in other parts of the country including Mombasa, Nairobi, Rift Valley, Central among others. The attitude and interests of some editors and media houses is not encouraging or helpful at all.
Some candidates had unfettered access to some media houses to declare themselves winners or "thank" people in their regions for electing them even when they did not win! Talk show hosts in some stations acted and continue to act as party activists in their comments, declaring which candidate will win and the others who will be "taught a lesson".
I think we are not being honest and we are going to again debate the role of the media in fueling conflicts after the elections. More ominously, the safety and security of some journalists across the country will be compromised.
Oloo Janak.
------------------------------ *From:* "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> *To:* williamjanak@yahoo.com *Cc:* KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 6, 2013 7:03 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Slaying the Tribal Monster!
Edith, We had a press conference today about the same but everytime we raise these issues we get abused by very educated people. Politicians are supposed to expound on their Manifesto in public rallies and on TV but what we have seen is actually an attempt to fan violence through lies. We must refuse this as a people if we love this country. Politicians are ordinarily followers such that if we refuse to listen to their inciting messages, they will revert to something else possibly issues.
Ndemo.
Listers,
I can't resist but share my pain....that indeed the media can entertain "raw tribal discussions" on live TV! While one may argue that it's reality and we must deal with it, if it divides us and tears us apart, why not pursue other alternatives?...why not take advantage of this defining moment in our history (backed by the current constitution) to build a NEW FOUNDATION and help the country "unlearn" these bad habits that we've been socialized into over the years and has taken us no-where? It's possible to "unlearn"!!
The good bible tells us "teach thy children the ways of the Lord and they shall never depart from it"....in the same vein "feed Kenyans with positive vibes and we shall build a stronger and more united country"
Media (which forms this important industry represented on this list) is well aware that by their very nature, they "set the agenda and shape public opinion". You have a huge responsibility to play in carving a great future for Kenya, stand up and resist ethnic division in this country. We must build our nation based on development concerns and address issues dear to the hearts of Kenyans.
When last time (2007/2008), Bwana Ndemo gave his opinion (official or non-official) about the role the media played in 2007, I wonder if he wasn't right? Where is NCIC? Where is the Media Council?
This madness has to stop!
Edith (my heart is bleeding for Kenya).
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That is precisely the debate because like in our body politic, even in the media, people talk glibly about issues and proffer theoretical and dishonest solutions. I will possibly say more later. Few Kenyans want to confront issues honestly. Look at the attempt to stop debate on land related injustices as if that will solve the issue. Oloo. ________________________________ From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> To: william janak <williamjanak@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2013 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Slaying the Tribal Monster! - The media again! Thanks for sharing this Bwana Oloo, This raises some very serious issues around the integrity of our media houses, the selfishness of our political aspirants, and the gullibility of our populace. What measures can be taken to guard against further abuses? Brian On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:12 AM, william janak <williamjanak@yahoo.com> wrote: Hello out there!
All the discussions and commitments we have been making within the media industry about the need for restraint have been lost, more so with the coverage of the recent party primaries. For instance, the undue focus and exaggeration of certain situations by the media on Nyanza during the nominations and even now as we go towards the elections point to lack of restraint and a sense of responsibility. Of course there are other examples from other parts of the country.
There are credible reports that a number of candidates massively bribed individual journalists and continue to retain some ahead of the elections to skew the reporting in their favour. Some of the demonstration arising from the nominations were manipulated by the media and candidates. The demos, some of which were not
necessarily spontaneous, were in some cases reported with glee as if that was what was expected.
For instance, I was in Kisumu on Sunday January 20, 2013 when the media reported that "Kisumu was paralyzed" and that Kondele was a "no go zone" and people were asked to avoid the Kisumu-Kakamega road. I went up to Kondele and saw the less than 20 youths who had lit fire on the Kondele -Kibos road. Traffic from Kakamega and Kibos was flowing and I used the route.
Most people simply watched them and went about their businesses as usual. The police came within less than ten minutes (actually Kondele Police Station is a stone throw away from the scene) and the youths helped the police to clear the road. Beyond the place- less than 300 hundred metres away, people did not even notice anything was happening. Those (I included) who later watched the TV footage on the incident could not believe both the way the images were presented and the
comments.
More than ten of my friends who knew I was in Kisumu called me - alarmed - and my assurances that Kisumu was calm fell on deaf years. A number cancelled their trips to Kisumu and also advise others that Kisumu was unsafe. A friend of mine who runs a hotel reported more 5 of his regular guests who were due to arrive that day, canceling their bookings.
A two-day meeting with senior journalists and correspondents from all the six counties in Nyanza gave the clearest picture of the extent to which the reporting was manipulated both from Nairobi and locally and the interests and influences that attended to the period and which apparently continue, and will into the actual polling day.
Two journalists in one of the counties, were at one time virtually coerced -in the night - by two contesting sides to announce incomplete results and got virtually held hostage when they refused to take the bribe money they were offered. The same
groups bribed returning officers and threatened others.
In some areas, including Nyatike, some journalists have been completely barred or face such threats due to their perceived support for some candidates. Indeed most of the reports currently being carried by the media are actually sourced from on phone and from sources, both within the government and others that cannot be cannot be described as credible, or capable of giving the true picture of the situation.
There is an initiative I am involved in with others, to compile some information on these trends. Journalists were also under pressure or became victims of bribery in other parts of the country including Mombasa, Nairobi, Rift Valley, Central among others. The attitude and interests of some editors and media houses is not encouraging or helpful at all.
Some candidates had unfettered access to some media houses to declare themselves winners or "thank" people in their
regions for electing them even when they did not win! Talk show hosts in some stations acted and continue to act as party activists in their comments, declaring which candidate will win and the others who will be "taught a lesson".
I think we are not being honest and we are going to again debate the role of the media in fueling conflicts after the elections. More ominously, the safety and security of some journalists across the country will be compromised.
Oloo Janak.
________________________________ From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: williamjanak@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Slaying the Tribal Monster!
Edith, We had a press conference today about the same but everytime we raise these issues we get abused by very educated people. Politicians are supposed to expound on their Manifesto in public rallies and on TV but what we have seen is actually an attempt to fan violence through lies. We must refuse this as a people if we love this country. Politicians are ordinarily followers such that if we refuse to listen to their inciting messages, they will revert to something else possibly issues.
Ndemo.
Listers,
I can't resist but share my pain....that indeed the media can entertain "raw tribal discussions" on live TV! While one may argue that it's reality and we must deal with it, if it divides us and tears us apart, why not pursue other alternatives?...why not take advantage of this defining moment in our history (backed by the current
constitution) to build a NEW
FOUNDATION and help the country "unlearn" these bad habits that we've been socialized into over the years and has taken us no-where? It's possible to "unlearn"!!
The good bible tells us "teach thy children the ways of the Lord and they shall never depart from it"....in the same vein "feed Kenyans with positive vibes and we shall build a stronger and more united country"
Media (which forms this important industry represented on this list) is well aware that by their very nature, they "set the agenda and shape public opinion". You have a huge responsibility to play in carving a great future for Kenya, stand up and resist ethnic division in this country. We must build our nation based on development concerns and address issues dear to the hearts of Kenyans.
When last time (2007/2008), Bwana Ndemo gave his opinion (official or non-official) about the role the media played in 2007, I wonder if he wasn't right? Where is NCIC? Where is the Media Council?
This madness has to stop!
Edith (my heart is bleeding for Kenya).
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Exactly five years ago, in February 2008, we had this thread on Kictanet - http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/2008-February/003789.html As you can tell from the thread, the role of the media during elections is a delicate topic. However, we need to curve a new reality for Kenyan media. I believe in an enabling environment through regulation that tames vested interests of individual media owners. I speak as one who has worked in the management teams of two private media houses after having been significantly involved in the National ICT Policy process, WSIS process and the digital migration debate. From experience, we need regulation at all levels including ensuring media houses taking responsibility for content that goes through the airwaves licensed to them and legislating the requirement for *privately-owned media houses*. to be impartial in coverage and responsible for their content. The Constitutional and legal provisions may be a powerful way for us to ensure responsible media. As such, we need to revisit *Section 34* of the new Constitution which may hold the answer to the *loopholes* and barriers we created in the Constitutional review process. See below: SECTION 34: FREEDOM OF THE MEDIA (1) Freedom and independence of electronic, print and all other types of media is guaranteed, but does not extend to any expression specified in Article 33 (2). (2) The State shall not— (a) exercise control over or interfere with any person engaged in broadcasting, the production or circulation of any publication or the dissemination of information by any medium; or *(b) penalise any person for any opinion or view or the content of any broadcast, publication or dissemination. * (3) Broadcasting and other electronic media have freedom of establishment, subject only to licensing procedures that— (a) are necessary to regulate the airwaves and other forms of signal distribution; and (b) are independent of control by government, political interests or commercial interests. *(4) All State-owned media *shall— (a) be free to determine independently the editorial content of their broadcasts or other communications; (b) be impartial; and (c) afford fair opportunity for the presentation of divergent views and dissenting opinions. (5) Parliament shall enact legislation that provides for the establishment of a body, which shall— (a) be independent of control by government, political interests or commercial interests; (b) reflect the interests of all sections of the society; and *(c) set media standards and regulate and monitor compliance with those standards.* On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
Thanks for sharing this Bwana Oloo,
This raises some very serious issues around the integrity of our media houses, the selfishness of our political aspirants, and the gullibility of our populace.
What measures can be taken to guard against further abuses?
Brian
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:12 AM, william janak <williamjanak@yahoo.com>wrote:
Hello out there!
All the discussions and commitments we have been making within the media industry about the need for restraint have been lost, more so with the coverage of the recent party primaries. For instance, the undue focus and exaggeration of certain situations by the media on Nyanza during the nominations and even now as we go towards the elections point to lack of restraint and a sense of responsibility. Of course there are other examples from other parts of the country.
There are credible reports that a number of candidates massively bribed individual journalists and continue to retain some ahead of the elections to skew the reporting in their favour. Some of the demonstration arising from the nominations were manipulated by the media and candidates. The demos, some of which were not necessarily spontaneous, were in some cases reported with glee as if that was what was expected.
For instance, I was in Kisumu on Sunday January 20, 2013 when the media reported that "Kisumu was paralyzed" and that Kondele was a "no go zone" and people were asked to avoid the Kisumu-Kakamega road. I went up to Kondele and saw the less than 20 youths who had lit fire on the Kondele -Kibos road. Traffic from Kakamega and Kibos was flowing and I used the route.
Most people simply watched them and went about their businesses as usual. The police came within less than ten minutes (actually Kondele Police Station is a stone throw away from the scene) and the youths helped the police to clear the road. Beyond the place- less than 300 hundred metres away, people did not even notice anything was happening. Those (I included) who later watched the TV footage on the incident could not believe both the way the images were presented and the comments.
More than ten of my friends who knew I was in Kisumu called me - alarmed - and my assurances that Kisumu was calm fell on deaf years. A number cancelled their trips to Kisumu and also advise others that Kisumu was unsafe. A friend of mine who runs a hotel reported more 5 of his regular guests who were due to arrive that day, canceling their bookings.
A two-day meeting with senior journalists and correspondents from all the six counties in Nyanza gave the clearest picture of the extent to which the reporting was manipulated both from Nairobi and locally and the interests and influences that attended to the period and which apparently continue, and will into the actual polling day.
Two journalists in one of the counties, were at one time virtually coerced -in the night - by two contesting sides to announce incomplete results and got virtually held hostage when they refused to take the bribe money they were offered. The same groups bribed returning officers and threatened others.
In some areas, including Nyatike, some journalists have been completely barred or face such threats due to their perceived support for some candidates. Indeed most of the reports currently being carried by the media are actually sourced from on phone and from sources, both within the government and others that cannot be cannot be described as credible, or capable of giving the true picture of the situation.
There is an initiative I am involved in with others, to compile some information on these trends. Journalists were also under pressure or became victims of bribery in other parts of the country including Mombasa, Nairobi, Rift Valley, Central among others. The attitude and interests of some editors and media houses is not encouraging or helpful at all.
Some candidates had unfettered access to some media houses to declare themselves winners or "thank" people in their regions for electing them even when they did not win! Talk show hosts in some stations acted and continue to act as party activists in their comments, declaring which candidate will win and the others who will be "taught a lesson".
I think we are not being honest and we are going to again debate the role of the media in fueling conflicts after the elections. More ominously, the safety and security of some journalists across the country will be compromised.
Oloo Janak.
------------------------------ *From:* "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> *To:* williamjanak@yahoo.com *Cc:* KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 6, 2013 7:03 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Slaying the Tribal Monster!
Edith, We had a press conference today about the same but everytime we raise these issues we get abused by very educated people. Politicians are supposed to expound on their Manifesto in public rallies and on TV but what we have seen is actually an attempt to fan violence through lies. We must refuse this as a people if we love this country. Politicians are ordinarily followers such that if we refuse to listen to their inciting messages, they will revert to something else possibly issues.
Ndemo.
Listers,
I can't resist but share my pain....that indeed the media can entertain "raw tribal discussions" on live TV! While one may argue that it's reality and we must deal with it, if it divides us and tears us apart, why not pursue other alternatives?...why not take advantage of this defining moment in our history (backed by the current constitution) to build a NEW FOUNDATION and help the country "unlearn" these bad habits that we've been socialized into over the years and has taken us no-where? It's possible to "unlearn"!!
The good bible tells us "teach thy children the ways of the Lord and they shall never depart from it"....in the same vein "feed Kenyans with positive vibes and we shall build a stronger and more united country"
Media (which forms this important industry represented on this list) is well aware that by their very nature, they "set the agenda and shape public opinion". You have a huge responsibility to play in carving a great future for Kenya, stand up and resist ethnic division in this country. We must build our nation based on development concerns and address issues dear to the hearts of Kenyans.
When last time (2007/2008), Bwana Ndemo gave his opinion (official or non-official) about the role the media played in 2007, I wonder if he wasn't right? Where is NCIC? Where is the Media Council?
This madness has to stop!
Edith (my heart is bleeding for Kenya).
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Well said Wainaina, as someone who has worked in mainstream media...we hear you. Can we hear from Bwana Ndemo and Minister on this? Edith From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Eng. Wainaina Mungai Sent: February 8, 2013 2:15 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] [mediaeditors] Slaying the Tribal Monster! - The media again! Exactly five years ago, in February 2008, we had this thread on Kictanet - http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/2008-February/003789.html As you can tell from the thread, the role of the media during elections is a delicate topic. However, we need to curve a new reality for Kenyan media. I believe in an enabling environment through regulation that tames vested interests of individual media owners. I speak as one who has worked in the management teams of two private media houses after having been significantly involved in the National ICT Policy process, WSIS process and the digital migration debate. From experience, we need regulation at all levels including ensuring media houses taking responsibility for content that goes through the airwaves licensed to them and legislating the requirement for privately-owned media houses. to be impartial in coverage and responsible for their content. The Constitutional and legal provisions may be a powerful way for us to ensure responsible media. As such, we need to revisit Section 34 of the new Constitution which may hold the answer to the loopholes and barriers we created in the Constitutional review process. See below: SECTION 34: FREEDOM OF THE MEDIA (1) Freedom and independence of electronic, print and all other types of media is guaranteed, but does not extend to any expression specified in Article 33 (2). (2) The State shall not- (a) exercise control over or interfere with any person engaged in broadcasting, the production or circulation of any publication or the dissemination of information by any medium; or (b) penalise any person for any opinion or view or the content of any broadcast, publication or dissemination. (3) Broadcasting and other electronic media have freedom of establishment, subject only to licensing procedures that- (a) are necessary to regulate the airwaves and other forms of signal distribution; and (b) are independent of control by government, political interests or commercial interests. (4) All State-owned media shall- (a) be free to determine independently the editorial content of their broadcasts or other communications; (b) be impartial; and (c) afford fair opportunity for the presentation of divergent views and dissenting opinions. (5) Parliament shall enact legislation that provides for the establishment of a body, which shall- (a) be independent of control by government, political interests or commercial interests; (b) reflect the interests of all sections of the society; and (c) set media standards and regulate and monitor compliance with those standards. On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com<mailto:blongwe@gmail.com>> wrote: Thanks for sharing this Bwana Oloo, This raises some very serious issues around the integrity of our media houses, the selfishness of our political aspirants, and the gullibility of our populace. What measures can be taken to guard against further abuses? Brian On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:12 AM, william janak <williamjanak@yahoo.com<mailto:williamjanak@yahoo.com>> wrote: Hello out there! All the discussions and commitments we have been making within the media industry about the need for restraint have been lost, more so with the coverage of the recent party primaries. For instance, the undue focus and exaggeration of certain situations by the media on Nyanza during the nominations and even now as we go towards the elections point to lack of restraint and a sense of responsibility. Of course there are other examples from other parts of the country. There are credible reports that a number of candidates massively bribed individual journalists and continue to retain some ahead of the elections to skew the reporting in their favour. Some of the demonstration arising from the nominations were manipulated by the media and candidates. The demos, some of which were not necessarily spontaneous, were in some cases reported with glee as if that was what was expected. For instance, I was in Kisumu on Sunday January 20, 2013 when the media reported that "Kisumu was paralyzed" and that Kondele was a "no go zone" and people were asked to avoid the Kisumu-Kakamega road. I went up to Kondele and saw the less than 20 youths who had lit fire on the Kondele -Kibos road. Traffic from Kakamega and Kibos was flowing and I used the route. Most people simply watched them and went about their businesses as usual. The police came within less than ten minutes (actually Kondele Police Station is a stone throw away from the scene) and the youths helped the police to clear the road. Beyond the place- less than 300 hundred metres away, people did not even notice anything was happening. Those (I included) who later watched the TV footage on the incident could not believe both the way the images were presented and the comments. More than ten of my friends who knew I was in Kisumu called me - alarmed - and my assurances that Kisumu was calm fell on deaf years. A number cancelled their trips to Kisumu and also advise others that Kisumu was unsafe. A friend of mine who runs a hotel reported more 5 of his regular guests who were due to arrive that day, canceling their bookings. A two-day meeting with senior journalists and correspondents from all the six counties in Nyanza gave the clearest picture of the extent to which the reporting was manipulated both from Nairobi and locally and the interests and influences that attended to the period and which apparently continue, and will into the actual polling day. Two journalists in one of the counties, were at one time virtually coerced -in the night - by two contesting sides to announce incomplete results and got virtually held hostage when they refused to take the bribe money they were offered. The same groups bribed returning officers and threatened others. In some areas, including Nyatike, some journalists have been completely barred or face such threats due to their perceived support for some candidates. Indeed most of the reports currently being carried by the media are actually sourced from on phone and from sources, both within the government and others that cannot be cannot be described as credible, or capable of giving the true picture of the situation. There is an initiative I am involved in with others, to compile some information on these trends. Journalists were also under pressure or became victims of bribery in other parts of the country including Mombasa, Nairobi, Rift Valley, Central among others. The attitude and interests of some editors and media houses is not encouraging or helpful at all. Some candidates had unfettered access to some media houses to declare themselves winners or "thank" people in their regions for electing them even when they did not win! Talk show hosts in some stations acted and continue to act as party activists in their comments, declaring which candidate will win and the others who will be "taught a lesson". I think we are not being honest and we are going to again debate the role of the media in fueling conflicts after the elections. More ominously, the safety and security of some journalists across the country will be compromised. Oloo Janak. ________________________________ From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke<mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke>" <bitange@jambo.co.ke<mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke>> To: williamjanak@yahoo.com<mailto:williamjanak@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke>>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Slaying the Tribal Monster! Edith, We had a press conference today about the same but everytime we raise these issues we get abused by very educated people. Politicians are supposed to expound on their Manifesto in public rallies and on TV but what we have seen is actually an attempt to fan violence through lies. We must refuse this as a people if we love this country. Politicians are ordinarily followers such that if we refuse to listen to their inciting messages, they will revert to something else possibly issues. Ndemo.
Listers,
I can't resist but share my pain....that indeed the media can entertain "raw tribal discussions" on live TV! While one may argue that it's reality and we must deal with it, if it divides us and tears us apart, why not pursue other alternatives?...why not take advantage of this defining moment in our history (backed by the current constitution) to build a NEW FOUNDATION and help the country "unlearn" these bad habits that we've been socialized into over the years and has taken us no-where? It's possible to "unlearn"!!
The good bible tells us "teach thy children the ways of the Lord and they shall never depart from it"....in the same vein "feed Kenyans with positive vibes and we shall build a stronger and more united country"
Media (which forms this important industry represented on this list) is well aware that by their very nature, they "set the agenda and shape public opinion". You have a huge responsibility to play in carving a great future for Kenya, stand up and resist ethnic division in this country. We must build our nation based on development concerns and address issues dear to the hearts of Kenyans.
When last time (2007/2008), Bwana Ndemo gave his opinion (official or non-official) about the role the media played in 2007, I wonder if he wasn't right? Where is NCIC? Where is the Media Council?
This madness has to stop!
Edith (my heart is bleeding for Kenya).
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Hi all, While many are concerned about the tribal monster, and with good reason for this concern, I am troubled by what I'm beginning to see on social media (esp Facebook) in the form of religious propaganda. I have began to see people sharing updates about so called prophesies that have been made by men/women of God - upon reading and interpretation these so called prophesies are actually eliminating or targetted at one particular candidate. I wonder whether the monitoring that the police and other authorities are doing will also filter out such? Brian On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
Well said Wainaina, as someone who has worked in mainstream media…we hear you.****
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Can we hear from Bwana Ndemo and Minister on this?****
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Edith****
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*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera= idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Eng. Wainaina Mungai *Sent:* February 8, 2013 2:15 AM *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] [mediaeditors] Slaying the Tribal Monster! - The media again!****
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Exactly five years ago, in February 2008, we had this thread on Kictanet - http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/2008-February/003789.html** **
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As you can tell from the thread, the role of the media during elections is a delicate topic. However, we need to curve a new reality for Kenyan media. I believe in an enabling environment through regulation that tames vested interests of individual media owners. I speak as one who has worked in the management teams of two private media houses after having been significantly involved in the National ICT Policy process, WSIS process and the digital migration debate. From experience, we need regulation at all levels including ensuring media houses taking responsibility for content that goes through the airwaves licensed to them and legislating the requirement for *privately-owned media houses*. to be impartial in coverage and responsible for their content. The Constitutional and legal provisions may be a powerful way for us to ensure responsible media. As such, we need to revisit *Section 34* of the new Constitution which may hold the answer to the *loopholes* and barriers we created in the Constitutional review process. ****
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See below:****
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(1) Freedom and independence of electronic, print and all other types of media is guaranteed, but does not extend to any expression specified in Article 33 (2).****
(2) The State shall not— (a) exercise control over or interfere with any person engaged in broadcasting, the production or circulation of any publication or the dissemination of information by any medium; or *(b) penalise any person for any opinion or view or the content of any broadcast, publication or dissemination.*****
(3) Broadcasting and other electronic media have freedom of establishment, subject only to licensing procedures that— (a) are necessary to regulate the airwaves and other forms of signal distribution; and (b) are independent of control by government, political interests or commercial interests.****
*(4) All State-owned media *shall— (a) be free to determine independently the editorial content of their broadcasts or other communications; (b) be impartial; and (c) afford fair opportunity for the presentation of divergent views and dissenting opinions.****
(5) Parliament shall enact legislation that provides for the establishment of a body, which shall— (a) be independent of control by government, political interests or commercial interests; (b) reflect the interests of all sections of the society; and *(c) set media standards and regulate and monitor compliance with those standards.*****
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On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:****
Thanks for sharing this Bwana Oloo,
This raises some very serious issues around the integrity of our media houses, the selfishness of our political aspirants, and the gullibility of our populace.
What measures can be taken to guard against further abuses?
Brian****
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:12 AM, william janak <williamjanak@yahoo.com> wrote:****
Hello out there!
All the discussions and commitments we have been making within the media industry about the need for restraint have been lost, more so with the coverage of the recent party primaries. For instance, the undue focus and exaggeration of certain situations by the media on Nyanza during the nominations and even now as we go towards the elections point to lack of restraint and a sense of responsibility. Of course there are other examples from other parts of the country.
There are credible reports that a number of candidates massively bribed individual journalists and continue to retain some ahead of the elections to skew the reporting in their favour. Some of the demonstration arising from the nominations were manipulated by the media and candidates. The demos, some of which were not necessarily spontaneous, were in some cases reported with glee as if that was what was expected.
For instance, I was in Kisumu on Sunday January 20, 2013 when the media reported that "Kisumu was paralyzed" and that Kondele was a "no go zone" and people were asked to avoid the Kisumu-Kakamega road. I went up to Kondele and saw the less than 20 youths who had lit fire on the Kondele -Kibos road. Traffic from Kakamega and Kibos was flowing and I used the route.
Most people simply watched them and went about their businesses as usual. The police came within less than ten minutes (actually Kondele Police Station is a stone throw away from the scene) and the youths helped the police to clear the road. Beyond the place- less than 300 hundred metres away, people did not even notice anything was happening. Those (I included) who later watched the TV footage on the incident could not believe both the way the images were presented and the comments.
More than ten of my friends who knew I was in Kisumu called me - alarmed - and my assurances that Kisumu was calm fell on deaf years. A number cancelled their trips to Kisumu and also advise others that Kisumu was unsafe. A friend of mine who runs a hotel reported more 5 of his regular guests who were due to arrive that day, canceling their bookings.
A two-day meeting with senior journalists and correspondents from all the six counties in Nyanza gave the clearest picture of the extent to which the reporting was manipulated both from Nairobi and locally and the interests and influences that attended to the period and which apparently continue, and will into the actual polling day.
Two journalists in one of the counties, were at one time virtually coerced -in the night - by two contesting sides to announce incomplete results and got virtually held hostage when they refused to take the bribe money they were offered. The same groups bribed returning officers and threatened others.
In some areas, including Nyatike, some journalists have been completely barred or face such threats due to their perceived support for some candidates. Indeed most of the reports currently being carried by the media are actually sourced from on phone and from sources, both within the government and others that cannot be cannot be described as credible, or capable of giving the true picture of the situation.
There is an initiative I am involved in with others, to compile some information on these trends. Journalists were also under pressure or became victims of bribery in other parts of the country including Mombasa, Nairobi, Rift Valley, Central among others. The attitude and interests of some editors and media houses is not encouraging or helpful at all.
Some candidates had unfettered access to some media houses to declare themselves winners or "thank" people in their regions for electing them even when they did not win! Talk show hosts in some stations acted and continue to act as party activists in their comments, declaring which candidate will win and the others who will be "taught a lesson".
I think we are not being honest and we are going to again debate the role of the media in fueling conflicts after the elections. More ominously, the safety and security of some journalists across the country will be compromised.
Oloo Janak.****
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*From:* "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> *To:* williamjanak@yahoo.com *Cc:* KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 6, 2013 7:03 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Slaying the Tribal Monster!****
Edith, We had a press conference today about the same but everytime we raise these issues we get abused by very educated people. Politicians are supposed to expound on their Manifesto in public rallies and on TV but what we have seen is actually an attempt to fan violence through lies. We must refuse this as a people if we love this country. Politicians are ordinarily followers such that if we refuse to listen to their inciting messages, they will revert to something else possibly issues.
Ndemo.
Listers,
I can't resist but share my pain....that indeed the media can entertain "raw tribal discussions" on live TV! While one may argue that it's reality and we must deal with it, if it divides us and tears us apart, why not pursue other alternatives?...why not take advantage of this defining moment in our history (backed by the current constitution) to build a NEW FOUNDATION and help the country "unlearn" these bad habits that we've been socialized into over the years and has taken us no-where? It's possible to "unlearn"!!
The good bible tells us "teach thy children the ways of the Lord and they shall never depart from it"....in the same vein "feed Kenyans with positive vibes and we shall build a stronger and more united country"
Media (which forms this important industry represented on this list) is well aware that by their very nature, they "set the agenda and shape public opinion". You have a huge responsibility to play in carving a great future for Kenya, stand up and resist ethnic division in this country. We must build our nation based on development concerns and address issues dear to the hearts of Kenyans.
When last time (2007/2008), Bwana Ndemo gave his opinion (official or non-official) about the role the media played in 2007, I wonder if he wasn't right? Where is NCIC? Where is the Media Council?
This madness has to stop!
Edith (my heart is bleeding for Kenya).
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Brian, Indeed many prophecies are out there. Not sure what you mean when you say "I wonder whether the monitoring that the police and other authorities are doing will also filter out such?" The most profound prophecy was one issued only yesterday by the renown Prophet Owuor...shared in social media. It's a MUST watch for every Kenya especially the top leadership of this country as there are clear instructions on what Must be done to save this nation. Watch it at http://www.repentandpreparetheway.org/ (on the left column of the webpage under prophecies, the title is "Judgement Coming to Kenya") Edith From: Brian Munyao Longwe [mailto:blongwe@gmail.com] Sent: February 8, 2013 10:30 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] [mediaeditors] Slaying the Tribal Monster! - The media again! Hi all, While many are concerned about the tribal monster, and with good reason for this concern, I am troubled by what I'm beginning to see on social media (esp Facebook) in the form of religious propaganda. I have began to see people sharing updates about so called prophesies that have been made by men/women of God - upon reading and interpretation these so called prophesies are actually eliminating or targetted at one particular candidate. I wonder whether the monitoring that the police and other authorities are doing will also filter out such? Brian On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca<mailto:eadera@idrc.ca>> wrote: Well said Wainaina, as someone who has worked in mainstream media...we hear you. Can we hear from Bwana Ndemo and Minister on this? Edith From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera<mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Beadera>=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke>] On Behalf Of Eng. Wainaina Mungai Sent: February 8, 2013 2:15 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] [mediaeditors] Slaying the Tribal Monster! - The media again! Exactly five years ago, in February 2008, we had this thread on Kictanet - http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/2008-February/003789.html As you can tell from the thread, the role of the media during elections is a delicate topic. However, we need to curve a new reality for Kenyan media. I believe in an enabling environment through regulation that tames vested interests of individual media owners. I speak as one who has worked in the management teams of two private media houses after having been significantly involved in the National ICT Policy process, WSIS process and the digital migration debate. From experience, we need regulation at all levels including ensuring media houses taking responsibility for content that goes through the airwaves licensed to them and legislating the requirement for privately-owned media houses. to be impartial in coverage and responsible for their content. The Constitutional and legal provisions may be a powerful way for us to ensure responsible media. As such, we need to revisit Section 34 of the new Constitution which may hold the answer to the loopholes and barriers we created in the Constitutional review process. See below: SECTION 34: FREEDOM OF THE MEDIA (1) Freedom and independence of electronic, print and all other types of media is guaranteed, but does not extend to any expression specified in Article 33 (2). (2) The State shall not- (a) exercise control over or interfere with any person engaged in broadcasting, the production or circulation of any publication or the dissemination of information by any medium; or (b) penalise any person for any opinion or view or the content of any broadcast, publication or dissemination. (3) Broadcasting and other electronic media have freedom of establishment, subject only to licensing procedures that- (a) are necessary to regulate the airwaves and other forms of signal distribution; and (b) are independent of control by government, political interests or commercial interests. (4) All State-owned media shall- (a) be free to determine independently the editorial content of their broadcasts or other communications; (b) be impartial; and (c) afford fair opportunity for the presentation of divergent views and dissenting opinions. (5) Parliament shall enact legislation that provides for the establishment of a body, which shall- (a) be independent of control by government, political interests or commercial interests; (b) reflect the interests of all sections of the society; and (c) set media standards and regulate and monitor compliance with those standards. On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com<mailto:blongwe@gmail.com>> wrote: Thanks for sharing this Bwana Oloo, This raises some very serious issues around the integrity of our media houses, the selfishness of our political aspirants, and the gullibility of our populace. What measures can be taken to guard against further abuses? Brian On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:12 AM, william janak <williamjanak@yahoo.com<mailto:williamjanak@yahoo.com>> wrote: Hello out there! All the discussions and commitments we have been making within the media industry about the need for restraint have been lost, more so with the coverage of the recent party primaries. For instance, the undue focus and exaggeration of certain situations by the media on Nyanza during the nominations and even now as we go towards the elections point to lack of restraint and a sense of responsibility. Of course there are other examples from other parts of the country. There are credible reports that a number of candidates massively bribed individual journalists and continue to retain some ahead of the elections to skew the reporting in their favour. Some of the demonstration arising from the nominations were manipulated by the media and candidates. The demos, some of which were not necessarily spontaneous, were in some cases reported with glee as if that was what was expected. For instance, I was in Kisumu on Sunday January 20, 2013 when the media reported that "Kisumu was paralyzed" and that Kondele was a "no go zone" and people were asked to avoid the Kisumu-Kakamega road. I went up to Kondele and saw the less than 20 youths who had lit fire on the Kondele -Kibos road. Traffic from Kakamega and Kibos was flowing and I used the route. Most people simply watched them and went about their businesses as usual. The police came within less than ten minutes (actually Kondele Police Station is a stone throw away from the scene) and the youths helped the police to clear the road. Beyond the place- less than 300 hundred metres away, people did not even notice anything was happening. Those (I included) who later watched the TV footage on the incident could not believe both the way the images were presented and the comments. More than ten of my friends who knew I was in Kisumu called me - alarmed - and my assurances that Kisumu was calm fell on deaf years. A number cancelled their trips to Kisumu and also advise others that Kisumu was unsafe. A friend of mine who runs a hotel reported more 5 of his regular guests who were due to arrive that day, canceling their bookings. A two-day meeting with senior journalists and correspondents from all the six counties in Nyanza gave the clearest picture of the extent to which the reporting was manipulated both from Nairobi and locally and the interests and influences that attended to the period and which apparently continue, and will into the actual polling day. Two journalists in one of the counties, were at one time virtually coerced -in the night - by two contesting sides to announce incomplete results and got virtually held hostage when they refused to take the bribe money they were offered. The same groups bribed returning officers and threatened others. In some areas, including Nyatike, some journalists have been completely barred or face such threats due to their perceived support for some candidates. Indeed most of the reports currently being carried by the media are actually sourced from on phone and from sources, both within the government and others that cannot be cannot be described as credible, or capable of giving the true picture of the situation. There is an initiative I am involved in with others, to compile some information on these trends. Journalists were also under pressure or became victims of bribery in other parts of the country including Mombasa, Nairobi, Rift Valley, Central among others. The attitude and interests of some editors and media houses is not encouraging or helpful at all. Some candidates had unfettered access to some media houses to declare themselves winners or "thank" people in their regions for electing them even when they did not win! Talk show hosts in some stations acted and continue to act as party activists in their comments, declaring which candidate will win and the others who will be "taught a lesson". I think we are not being honest and we are going to again debate the role of the media in fueling conflicts after the elections. More ominously, the safety and security of some journalists across the country will be compromised. Oloo Janak. ________________________________ From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke<mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke>" <bitange@jambo.co.ke<mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke>> To: williamjanak@yahoo.com<mailto:williamjanak@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke>>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Slaying the Tribal Monster! Edith, We had a press conference today about the same but everytime we raise these issues we get abused by very educated people. Politicians are supposed to expound on their Manifesto in public rallies and on TV but what we have seen is actually an attempt to fan violence through lies. We must refuse this as a people if we love this country. Politicians are ordinarily followers such that if we refuse to listen to their inciting messages, they will revert to something else possibly issues. Ndemo.
Listers,
I can't resist but share my pain....that indeed the media can entertain "raw tribal discussions" on live TV! While one may argue that it's reality and we must deal with it, if it divides us and tears us apart, why not pursue other alternatives?...why not take advantage of this defining moment in our history (backed by the current constitution) to build a NEW FOUNDATION and help the country "unlearn" these bad habits that we've been socialized into over the years and has taken us no-where? It's possible to "unlearn"!!
The good bible tells us "teach thy children the ways of the Lord and they shall never depart from it"....in the same vein "feed Kenyans with positive vibes and we shall build a stronger and more united country"
Media (which forms this important industry represented on this list) is well aware that by their very nature, they "set the agenda and shape public opinion". You have a huge responsibility to play in carving a great future for Kenya, stand up and resist ethnic division in this country. We must build our nation based on development concerns and address issues dear to the hearts of Kenyans.
When last time (2007/2008), Bwana Ndemo gave his opinion (official or non-official) about the role the media played in 2007, I wonder if he wasn't right? Where is NCIC? Where is the Media Council?
This madness has to stop!
Edith (my heart is bleeding for Kenya).
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Brian, We cannot filter internet. We need to talk more about values and I think that is why we put them in the constitution. In Europe it was the religious society led by Martin Luther, John Calvin, Marx Webber that let the ethics discourse that changed the world. Our religious groups must raise up and properly enterpret the Holy Books they inherited. We should not blame the politicians on this. It is a collective failure by not only the religious groups but all of us. We are bi-modal creatures as we breach peace and the good of human kind we also practice the bad and evil. Until we practice what we preach, we shall remain hopeless. Internet has nothing with this backwardness. When shall we take responsibility for our actions? Ndemo.
Hi all,
While many are concerned about the tribal monster, and with good reason for this concern, I am troubled by what I'm beginning to see on social media (esp Facebook) in the form of religious propaganda.
I have began to see people sharing updates about so called prophesies that have been made by men/women of God - upon reading and interpretation these so called prophesies are actually eliminating or targetted at one particular candidate.
I wonder whether the monitoring that the police and other authorities are doing will also filter out such?
Brian
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
Well said Wainaina, as someone who has worked in mainstream media we hear you.****
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Can we hear from Bwana Ndemo and Minister on this?****
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Edith****
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*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera= idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Eng. Wainaina Mungai *Sent:* February 8, 2013 2:15 AM *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] [mediaeditors] Slaying the Tribal Monster! - The media again!****
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Exactly five years ago, in February 2008, we had this thread on Kictanet - http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/2008-February/003789.html** **
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As you can tell from the thread, the role of the media during elections is a delicate topic. However, we need to curve a new reality for Kenyan media. I believe in an enabling environment through regulation that tames vested interests of individual media owners. I speak as one who has worked in the management teams of two private media houses after having been significantly involved in the National ICT Policy process, WSIS process and the digital migration debate. From experience, we need regulation at all levels including ensuring media houses taking responsibility for content that goes through the airwaves licensed to them and legislating the requirement for *privately-owned media houses*. to be impartial in coverage and responsible for their content. The Constitutional and legal provisions may be a powerful way for us to ensure responsible media. As such, we need to revisit *Section 34* of the new Constitution which may hold the answer to the *loopholes* and barriers we created in the Constitutional review process. ****
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See below:****
** ** SECTION 34: FREEDOM OF THE MEDIA****
(1) Freedom and independence of electronic, print and all other types of media is guaranteed, but does not extend to any expression specified in Article 33 (2).****
(2) The State shall not (a) exercise control over or interfere with any person engaged in broadcasting, the production or circulation of any publication or the dissemination of information by any medium; or *(b) penalise any person for any opinion or view or the content of any broadcast, publication or dissemination.*****
(3) Broadcasting and other electronic media have freedom of establishment, subject only to licensing procedures that (a) are necessary to regulate the airwaves and other forms of signal distribution; and (b) are independent of control by government, political interests or commercial interests.****
*(4) All State-owned media *shall (a) be free to determine independently the editorial content of their broadcasts or other communications; (b) be impartial; and (c) afford fair opportunity for the presentation of divergent views and dissenting opinions.****
(5) Parliament shall enact legislation that provides for the establishment of a body, which shall (a) be independent of control by government, political interests or commercial interests; (b) reflect the interests of all sections of the society; and *(c) set media standards and regulate and monitor compliance with those standards.*****
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On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:****
Thanks for sharing this Bwana Oloo,
This raises some very serious issues around the integrity of our media houses, the selfishness of our political aspirants, and the gullibility of our populace.
What measures can be taken to guard against further abuses?
Brian****
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:12 AM, william janak <williamjanak@yahoo.com> wrote:****
Hello out there!
All the discussions and commitments we have been making within the media industry about the need for restraint have been lost, more so with the coverage of the recent party primaries. For instance, the undue focus and exaggeration of certain situations by the media on Nyanza during the nominations and even now as we go towards the elections point to lack of restraint and a sense of responsibility. Of course there are other examples from other parts of the country.
There are credible reports that a number of candidates massively bribed individual journalists and continue to retain some ahead of the elections to skew the reporting in their favour. Some of the demonstration arising from the nominations were manipulated by the media and candidates. The demos, some of which were not necessarily spontaneous, were in some cases reported with glee as if that was what was expected.
For instance, I was in Kisumu on Sunday January 20, 2013 when the media reported that "Kisumu was paralyzed" and that Kondele was a "no go zone" and people were asked to avoid the Kisumu-Kakamega road. I went up to Kondele and saw the less than 20 youths who had lit fire on the Kondele -Kibos road. Traffic from Kakamega and Kibos was flowing and I used the route.
Most people simply watched them and went about their businesses as usual. The police came within less than ten minutes (actually Kondele Police Station is a stone throw away from the scene) and the youths helped the police to clear the road. Beyond the place- less than 300 hundred metres away, people did not even notice anything was happening. Those (I included) who later watched the TV footage on the incident could not believe both the way the images were presented and the comments.
More than ten of my friends who knew I was in Kisumu called me - alarmed - and my assurances that Kisumu was calm fell on deaf years. A number cancelled their trips to Kisumu and also advise others that Kisumu was unsafe. A friend of mine who runs a hotel reported more 5 of his regular guests who were due to arrive that day, canceling their bookings.
A two-day meeting with senior journalists and correspondents from all the six counties in Nyanza gave the clearest picture of the extent to which the reporting was manipulated both from Nairobi and locally and the interests and influences that attended to the period and which apparently continue, and will into the actual polling day.
Two journalists in one of the counties, were at one time virtually coerced -in the night - by two contesting sides to announce incomplete results and got virtually held hostage when they refused to take the bribe money they were offered. The same groups bribed returning officers and threatened others.
In some areas, including Nyatike, some journalists have been completely barred or face such threats due to their perceived support for some candidates. Indeed most of the reports currently being carried by the media are actually sourced from on phone and from sources, both within the government and others that cannot be cannot be described as credible, or capable of giving the true picture of the situation.
There is an initiative I am involved in with others, to compile some information on these trends. Journalists were also under pressure or became victims of bribery in other parts of the country including Mombasa, Nairobi, Rift Valley, Central among others. The attitude and interests of some editors and media houses is not encouraging or helpful at all.
Some candidates had unfettered access to some media houses to declare themselves winners or "thank" people in their regions for electing them even when they did not win! Talk show hosts in some stations acted and continue to act as party activists in their comments, declaring which candidate will win and the others who will be "taught a lesson".
I think we are not being honest and we are going to again debate the role of the media in fueling conflicts after the elections. More ominously, the safety and security of some journalists across the country will be compromised.
Oloo Janak.****
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*From:* "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> *To:* williamjanak@yahoo.com *Cc:* KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 6, 2013 7:03 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Slaying the Tribal Monster!****
Edith, We had a press conference today about the same but everytime we raise these issues we get abused by very educated people. Politicians are supposed to expound on their Manifesto in public rallies and on TV but what we have seen is actually an attempt to fan violence through lies. We must refuse this as a people if we love this country. Politicians are ordinarily followers such that if we refuse to listen to their inciting messages, they will revert to something else possibly issues.
Ndemo.
Listers,
I can't resist but share my pain....that indeed the media can entertain "raw tribal discussions" on live TV! While one may argue that it's reality and we must deal with it, if it divides us and tears us apart, why not pursue other alternatives?...why not take advantage of this defining moment in our history (backed by the current constitution) to build a NEW FOUNDATION and help the country "unlearn" these bad habits that we've been socialized into over the years and has taken us no-where? It's possible to "unlearn"!!
The good bible tells us "teach thy children the ways of the Lord and they shall never depart from it"....in the same vein "feed Kenyans with positive vibes and we shall build a stronger and more united country"
Media (which forms this important industry represented on this list) is well aware that by their very nature, they "set the agenda and shape public opinion". You have a huge responsibility to play in carving a great future for Kenya, stand up and resist ethnic division in this country. We must build our nation based on development concerns and address issues dear to the hearts of Kenyans.
When last time (2007/2008), Bwana Ndemo gave his opinion (official or non-official) about the role the media played in 2007, I wonder if he wasn't right? Where is NCIC? Where is the Media Council?
This madness has to stop!
Edith (my heart is bleeding for Kenya).
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Dr. Ndemo is right. The internet is merely a channel for expressing ourselves and it has now serves to reveal how evil we are. Meet some of the people peddling outrageous things through the internet and some may appear respectable and mute. So if we cannot take responsibility for what we say and think via the internet, then we cannot blame the medium for our actions. Janak. ________________________________ From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: williamjanak@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, February 8, 2013 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] [mediaeditors] Slaying the Tribal Monster! - The media again! Brian, We cannot filter internet. We need to talk more about values and I think that is why we put them in the constitution. In Europe it was the religious society led by Martin Luther, John Calvin, Marx Webber that let the ethics discourse that changed the world. Our religious groups must raise up and properly enterpret the Holy Books they inherited. We should not blame the politicians on this. It is a collective failure by not only the religious groups but all of us. We are bi-modal creatures as we breach peace and the good of human kind we also practice the bad and evil. Until we practice what we preach, we shall remain hopeless. Internet has nothing with this backwardness. When shall we take responsibility for our actions? Ndemo.
Hi all,
While many are concerned about the tribal monster, and with good reason for this concern, I am troubled by what I'm beginning to see on social media (esp Facebook) in the form of religious propaganda.
I have began to see people sharing updates about so called prophesies that have been made by men/women of God - upon reading and interpretation these so called prophesies are actually eliminating or targetted at one particular candidate.
I wonder whether the monitoring that the police and other authorities are doing will also filter out such?
Brian
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
Well said Wainaina, as someone who has worked in mainstream media…we hear you.****
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Can we hear from Bwana Ndemo and Minister on this?****
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Edith****
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*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera= idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Eng. Wainaina Mungai *Sent:* February 8, 2013 2:15 AM *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] [mediaeditors] Slaying the Tribal Monster! - The media again!****
** **
Exactly five years ago, in February 2008, we had this thread on Kictanet - http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/2008-February/003789.html** **
** **
As you can tell from the thread, the role of the media during elections is a delicate topic. However, we need to curve a new reality for Kenyan media. I believe in an enabling environment through regulation that tames vested interests of individual media owners. I speak as one who has worked in the management teams of two private media houses after having been significantly involved in the National ICT Policy process, WSIS process and the digital migration debate. From experience, we need regulation at all levels including ensuring media houses taking responsibility for content that goes through the airwaves licensed to them and legislating the requirement for *privately-owned media houses*. to be impartial in coverage and responsible for their content. The Constitutional and legal provisions may be a powerful way for us to ensure responsible media. As such, we need to revisit *Section 34* of the new Constitution which may hold the answer to the *loopholes* and barriers we created in the Constitutional review process. ****
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See below:****
** ** SECTION 34: FREEDOM OF THE MEDIA****
(1) Freedom and independence of electronic, print and all other types of media is guaranteed, but does not extend to any expression specified in Article 33 (2).****
(2) The State shall not— (a) exercise control over or interfere with any person engaged in broadcasting, the production or circulation of any publication or the dissemination of information by any medium; or *(b) penalise any person for any opinion or view or the content of any broadcast, publication or dissemination.*****
(3) Broadcasting and other electronic media have freedom of establishment, subject only to licensing procedures that— (a) are necessary to regulate the airwaves and other forms of signal distribution; and (b) are independent of control by government, political interests or commercial interests.****
*(4) All State-owned media *shall— (a) be free to determine independently the editorial content of their broadcasts or other communications; (b) be impartial; and (c) afford fair opportunity for the presentation of divergent views and dissenting opinions.****
(5) Parliament shall enact legislation that provides for the establishment of a body, which shall— (a) be independent of control by government, political interests or commercial interests; (b) reflect the interests of all sections of the society; and *(c) set media standards and regulate and monitor compliance with those standards.*****
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On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:****
Thanks for sharing this Bwana Oloo,
This raises some very serious issues around the integrity of our media houses, the selfishness of our political aspirants, and the gullibility of our populace.
What measures can be taken to guard against further abuses?
Brian****
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:12 AM, william janak <williamjanak@yahoo.com> wrote:****
Hello out there!
All the discussions and commitments we have been making within the media industry about the need for restraint have been lost, more so with the coverage of the recent party primaries. For instance, the undue focus and exaggeration of certain situations by the media on Nyanza during the nominations and even now as we go towards the elections point to lack of restraint and a sense of responsibility. Of course there are other examples from other parts of the country.
There are credible reports that a number of candidates massively bribed individual journalists and continue to retain some ahead of the elections to skew the reporting in their favour. Some of the demonstration arising from the nominations were manipulated by the media and candidates. The demos, some of which were not necessarily spontaneous, were in some cases reported with glee as if that was what was expected.
For instance, I was in Kisumu on Sunday January 20, 2013 when the media reported that "Kisumu was paralyzed" and that Kondele was a "no go zone" and people were asked to avoid the Kisumu-Kakamega road. I went up to Kondele and saw the less than 20 youths who had lit fire on the Kondele -Kibos road. Traffic from Kakamega and Kibos was flowing and I used the route.
Most people simply watched them and went about their businesses as usual. The police came within less than ten minutes (actually Kondele Police Station is a stone throw away from the scene) and the youths helped the police to clear the road. Beyond the place- less than 300 hundred metres away, people did not even notice anything was happening. Those (I included) who later watched the TV footage on the incident could not believe both the way the images were presented and the comments.
More than ten of my friends who knew I was in Kisumu called me - alarmed - and my assurances that Kisumu was calm fell on deaf years. A number cancelled their trips to Kisumu and also advise others that Kisumu was unsafe. A friend of mine who runs a hotel reported more 5 of his regular guests who were due to arrive that day, canceling their bookings.
A two-day meeting with senior journalists and correspondents from all the six counties in Nyanza gave the clearest picture of the extent to which the reporting was manipulated both from Nairobi and locally and the interests and influences that attended to the period and which apparently continue, and will into the actual polling day.
Two journalists in one of the counties, were at one time virtually coerced -in the night - by two contesting sides to announce incomplete results and got virtually held hostage when they refused to take the bribe money they were offered. The same groups bribed returning officers and threatened others.
In some areas, including Nyatike, some journalists have been completely barred or face such threats due to their perceived support for some candidates. Indeed most of the reports currently being carried by the media are actually sourced from on phone and from sources, both within the government and others that cannot be cannot be described as credible, or capable of giving the true picture of the situation.
There is an initiative I am involved in with others, to compile some information on these trends. Journalists were also under pressure or became victims of bribery in other parts of the country including Mombasa, Nairobi, Rift Valley, Central among others. The attitude and interests of some editors and media houses is not encouraging or helpful at all.
Some candidates had unfettered access to some media houses to declare themselves winners or "thank" people in their regions for electing them even when they did not win! Talk show hosts in some stations acted and continue to act as party activists in their comments, declaring which candidate will win and the others who will be "taught a lesson".
I think we are not being honest and we are going to again debate the role of the media in fueling conflicts after the elections. More ominously, the safety and security of some journalists across the country will be compromised.
Oloo Janak.****
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*From:* "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> *To:* williamjanak@yahoo.com *Cc:* KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 6, 2013 7:03 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Slaying the Tribal Monster!****
Edith, We had a press conference today about the same but everytime we raise these issues we get abused by very educated people. Politicians are supposed to expound on their Manifesto in public rallies and on TV but what we have seen is actually an attempt to fan violence through lies. We must refuse this as a people if we love this country. Politicians are ordinarily followers such that if we refuse to listen to their inciting messages, they will revert to something else possibly issues.
Ndemo.
Listers,
I can't resist but share my pain....that indeed the media can entertain "raw tribal discussions" on live TV! While one may argue that it's reality and we must deal with it, if it divides us and tears us apart, why not pursue other alternatives?...why not take advantage of this defining moment in our history (backed by the current constitution) to build a NEW FOUNDATION and help the country "unlearn" these bad habits that we've been socialized into over the years and has taken us no-where? It's possible to "unlearn"!!
The good bible tells us "teach thy children the ways of the Lord and they shall never depart from it"....in the same vein "feed Kenyans with positive vibes and we shall build a stronger and more united country"
Media (which forms this important industry represented on this list) is well aware that by their very nature, they "set the agenda and shape public opinion". You have a huge responsibility to play in carving a great future for Kenya, stand up and resist ethnic division in this country. We must build our nation based on development concerns and address issues dear to the hearts of Kenyans.
When last time (2007/2008), Bwana Ndemo gave his opinion (official or non-official) about the role the media played in 2007, I wonder if he wasn't right? Where is NCIC? Where is the Media Council?
This madness has to stop!
Edith (my heart is bleeding for Kenya).
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Hi all,
While many are concerned about the tribal monster, and with good reason for this concern, I am troubled by what I'm beginning to see on social media (esp Facebook) in the form of religious propaganda.
I have began to see people sharing updates about so called prophesies that have been made by men/women of God - upon reading and interpretation these so called prophesies are actually eliminating or targetted at one particular candidate.
I wonder whether the monitoring that the police and other authorities are doing will also filter out such?
Brian
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
Well said Wainaina, as someone who has worked in mainstream media…we hear you.****
** **
Can we hear from Bwana Ndemo and Minister on this?****
** **
Edith****
** **
*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera= idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Eng. Wainaina Mungai *Sent:* February 8, 2013 2:15 AM *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] [mediaeditors] Slaying the Tribal Monster! - The media again!****
** **
Exactly five years ago, in February 2008, we had this thread on Kictanet - http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/2008-February/003789.html** **
** **
As you can tell from the thread, the role of the media during elections is a delicate topic. However, we need to curve a new reality for Kenyan media. I believe in an enabling environment through regulation that tames vested interests of individual media owners. I speak as one who has worked in the management teams of two private media houses after having been significantly involved in the National ICT Policy process, WSIS process and the digital migration debate. From experience, we need regulation at all levels including ensuring media houses taking responsibility for content that goes through the airwaves licensed to them and legislating the requirement for *privately-owned media houses*. to be impartial in coverage and responsible for their content. The Constitutional and legal provisions may be a powerful way for us to ensure responsible media. As such, we need to revisit *Section 34* of the new Constitution which may hold the answer to the *loopholes* and barriers we created in the Constitutional review process. ****
** **
See below:****
** ** SECTION 34: FREEDOM OF THE MEDIA****
(1) Freedom and independence of electronic, print and all other types of media is guaranteed, but does not extend to any expression specified in Article 33 (2).****
(2) The State shall not— (a) exercise control over or interfere with any person engaged in broadcasting, the production or circulation of any publication or the dissemination of information by any medium; or *(b) penalise any person for any opinion or view or the content of any broadcast, publication or dissemination.*****
(3) Broadcasting and other electronic media have freedom of establishment, subject only to licensing procedures that— (a) are necessary to regulate the airwaves and other forms of signal distribution; and (b) are independent of control by government, political interests or commercial interests.****
*(4) All State-owned media *shall— (a) be free to determine independently the editorial content of their broadcasts or other communications; (b) be impartial; and (c) afford fair opportunity for the presentation of divergent views and dissenting opinions.****
(5) Parliament shall enact legislation that provides for the establishment of a body, which shall— (a) be independent of control by government, political interests or commercial interests; (b) reflect the interests of all sections of the society; and *(c) set media standards and regulate and monitor compliance with those standards.*****
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On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>
wrote:****
Thanks for sharing this Bwana Oloo,
This raises some very serious issues around the integrity of our media houses, the selfishness of our political aspirants, and the gullibility of our populace.
What measures can be taken to guard against further abuses?
Brian****
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:12 AM, william janak <williamjanak@yahoo.com> wrote:****
Hello out there!
All the discussions and commitments we have been making within the media industry about the need for restraint have been lost, more so with the coverage of the recent party primaries. For instance, the undue focus and exaggeration of certain situations by the media on Nyanza during the nominations and even now as we go towards the elections point to lack of restraint and a sense of responsibility. Of course there are other examples from other parts of the country.
There are credible reports that a number of candidates massively bribed individual journalists and continue to retain some ahead of the elections to skew the reporting in their favour. Some of the demonstration arising from the nominations were manipulated by the media and candidates. The demos, some of which were not necessarily spontaneous, were in some cases reported with glee as if
For instance, I was in Kisumu on Sunday January 20, 2013 when the media reported that "Kisumu was paralyzed" and that Kondele was a "no go zone" and people were asked to avoid the Kisumu-Kakamega road. I went up to Kondele and saw the less than 20 youths who had lit fire on the Kondele -Kibos road. Traffic from Kakamega and Kibos was flowing and I used the route.
Most people simply watched them and went about their businesses as usual. The police came within less than ten minutes (actually Kondele Police Station is a stone throw away from the scene) and the youths helped the police to clear the road. Beyond the place- less than 300 hundred metres away, people did not even notice anything was happening. Those (I included) who later
watched the TV footage on the incident could not believe both
the way the images were presented and the comments.
More than ten of my friends who knew I was in Kisumu called me - alarmed - and my assurances that Kisumu was calm fell on deaf years. A number cancelled their trips to Kisumu and also advise others that Kisumu was unsafe. A friend of mine who runs a hotel reported more 5 of his regular guests who were due to arrive that day, canceling their bookings.
A two-day meeting with senior journalists and correspondents from all the six counties in Nyanza gave the clearest picture of the extent to which the reporting was manipulated both from Nairobi and locally and the interests and influences that attended to the period and which apparently continue, and will into the actual polling day.
Two journalists in one of the counties, were at one time virtually coerced -in the night - by two contesting sides to announce incomplete results and got virtually held hostage when they refused to take the bribe money they were offered. The same groups bribed returning officers and threatened others.
In some areas, including Nyatike, some journalists have been completely barred or face such threats due to their perceived support for some candidates. Indeed most of the reports currently being carried by the media are actually sourced from on phone and from sources, both within the government and others that cannot be cannot be described as credible, or capable of giving
-- Words of Wisdom? "The Internet, like drugs, can make you feel high and big online when you are actually depressed and small in real life, or like medicine, offers soothing relief from frustrating unending pains and anguish. Undeniably, it just depends on what you are and why you got online in the first place." -- Anonymous Coward ________________________________ From: william janak <williamjanak@yahoo.com> To: ict.researcher@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, February 8, 2013 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] [mediaeditors] Slaying the Tribal Monster! - The media again! Dr. Ndemo is right. The internet is merely a channel for expressing ourselves and it has now serves to reveal how evil we are. Meet some of the people peddling outrageous things through the internet and some may appear respectable and mute. So if we cannot take responsibility for what we say and think via the internet, then we cannot blame the medium for our actions. Janak. ________________________________ From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: williamjanak@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, February 8, 2013 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] [mediaeditors] Slaying the Tribal Monster! - The media again! Brian, We cannot filter internet. We need to talk more about values and I think that is why we put them in the constitution. In Europe it was the religious society led by Martin Luther, John Calvin, Marx Webber that let the ethics discourse that changed the world. Our religious groups must raise up and properly enterpret the Holy Books they inherited. We should not blame the politicians on this. It is a collective failure by not only the religious groups but all of us. We are bi-modal creatures as we breach peace and the good of human kind we also practice the bad and evil. Until we practice what we preach, we shall remain hopeless. Internet has nothing with this backwardness. When shall we take responsibility for our actions? Ndemo. that was what was expected. the true picture of the situation.
There is an initiative I am involved in with others, to compile some information on these trends. Journalists were also under pressure or became victims of bribery in other parts of the country including Mombasa, Nairobi, Rift Valley, Central among others. The attitude and interests of some editors and media houses is not encouraging or helpful at all.
Some candidates had unfettered access to some media houses to declare themselves winners or "thank" people in their regions for electing them even when they did not win! Talk show hosts in some stations acted and continue to act as party activists in their comments, declaring which candidate will win and the others who will be "taught a lesson".
I think we are not being honest and
we are going to again debate the
role of the media in fueling conflicts after the elections. More ominously, the safety and security of some journalists across the country will be compromised.
Oloo Janak.****
** **
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*From:* "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> *To:* williamjanak@yahoo.com *Cc:* KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 6, 2013 7:03 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Slaying the Tribal Monster!****
Edith, We had a press conference today about the same but everytime we raise these issues we get abused by very educated people. Politicians are supposed to expound on their Manifesto in public rallies and on TV but what we have seen is actually an attempt to fan violence through lies. We must refuse this as a people if we love this country. Politicians are ordinarily followers such that if we refuse to listen to their inciting messages, they will revert to something else possibly issues.
Ndemo.
Listers,
I can't resist but share my pain....that indeed the media can entertain "raw tribal discussions" on live TV! While one may argue that it's reality and we must deal with it, if it divides us and tears us apart, why not pursue other alternatives?...why not take advantage of this defining moment in our history (backed by the current constitution) to build a NEW FOUNDATION and help the country "unlearn" these bad habits that we've been socialized into over the years and has taken us no-where? It's possible to
"unlearn"!!
The good bible tells us "teach thy children the ways of the Lord and
they
shall never depart from it"....in the same vein "feed Kenyans with positive vibes and we shall build a stronger and more united country"
Media (which forms this important industry represented on this list) is well aware that by their very nature, they "set the agenda and shape public opinion". You have a huge responsibility to play in carving a great future for Kenya, stand up and resist ethnic division in this country. We must build our nation based on development concerns and address issues dear to the hearts of Kenyans.
When last time (2007/2008), Bwana Ndemo gave his opinion (official or
non-official) about the role the media played in 2007, I wonder if he
wasn't right? Where is NCIC? Where is the Media Council?
This madness has to stop!
Edith (my heart is bleeding for Kenya).
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It's *really* not true that the internet is just a channel for self-expression, which merely reveals how we already* *were. There's extensive research showing that being online actually makes things worse: it removes inhibitions*, and it makes group radicalisation** (after associating with groups of like-minded people, individuals become more extreme in their views than they would individually have been) much easier. Your own example (online peddlers of hate who are mild IRL) suggests as much. *[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_disinhibition_effect] **[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_polarization] Daniel Waweru, 26 Hai Phen, Bodoni, Caissa Superiore, Republic of San Serriffe On 8 February 2013 17:50, william janak <williamjanak@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr. Ndemo is right. The internet is merely a channel for expressing ourselves and it has now serves to reveal how evil we are. Meet some of the people peddling outrageous things through the internet and some may appear respectable and mute. So if we cannot take responsibility for what we say and think via the internet, then we cannot blame the medium for our actions.
Janak.
------------------------------ *From:* "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> *To:* williamjanak@yahoo.com *Cc:* KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Friday, February 8, 2013 5:16 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] [mediaeditors] Slaying the Tribal Monster! - The media again!
Brian, We cannot filter internet. We need to talk more about values and I think that is why we put them in the constitution. In Europe it was the religious society led by Martin Luther, John Calvin, Marx Webber that let the ethics discourse that changed the world. Our religious groups must raise up and properly enterpret the Holy Books they inherited.
We should not blame the politicians on this. It is a collective failure by not only the religious groups but all of us. We are bi-modal creatures as we breach peace and the good of human kind we also practice the bad and evil. Until we practice what we preach, we shall remain hopeless. Internet has nothing with this backwardness.
When shall we take responsibility for our actions?
Ndemo.
Hi all,
While many are concerned about the tribal monster, and with good reason for this concern, I am troubled by what I'm beginning to see on social media (esp Facebook) in the form of religious propaganda.
I have began to see people sharing updates about so called prophesies that have been made by men/women of God - upon reading and interpretation these so called prophesies are actually eliminating or targetted at one particular candidate.
I wonder whether the monitoring that the police and other authorities are doing will also filter out such?
Brian
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
Well said Wainaina, as someone who has worked in mainstream media…we hear you.****
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Can we hear from Bwana Ndemo and Minister on this?****
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Edith****
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*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera= idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Eng. Wainaina Mungai *Sent:* February 8, 2013 2:15 AM *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] [mediaeditors] Slaying the Tribal Monster! - The media again!****
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Exactly five years ago, in February 2008, we had this thread on Kictanet -
http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/2008-February/003789.html**
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As you can tell from the thread, the role of the media during elections is a delicate topic. However, we need to curve a new reality for Kenyan media. I believe in an enabling environment through regulation that tames vested interests of individual media owners. I speak as one who has worked in the management teams of two private media houses after having been significantly involved in the National ICT Policy process, WSIS process and the digital migration debate. From experience, we need regulation at all levels including ensuring media houses taking responsibility for content that goes through the airwaves licensed to them and legislating the requirement for *privately-owned media houses*. to be impartial in coverage and responsible for their content. The Constitutional and legal provisions may be a powerful way for us to ensure responsible media. As such, we need to revisit *Section 34* of the new Constitution which may hold the answer to the *loopholes* and barriers we created in the Constitutional review process. ****
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See below:****
** ** SECTION 34: FREEDOM OF THE MEDIA****
(1) Freedom and independence of electronic, print and all other types of media is guaranteed, but does not extend to any expression specified in Article 33 (2).****
(2) The State shall not— (a) exercise control over or interfere with any person engaged in broadcasting, the production or circulation of any publication or the dissemination of information by any medium; or *(b) penalise any person for any opinion or view or the content of any broadcast, publication or dissemination.*****
(3) Broadcasting and other electronic media have freedom of establishment, subject only to licensing procedures that— (a) are necessary to regulate the airwaves and other forms of signal distribution; and (b) are independent of control by government, political interests or commercial interests.****
*(4) All State-owned media *shall— (a) be free to determine independently the editorial content of their broadcasts or other communications; (b) be impartial; and (c) afford fair opportunity for the presentation of divergent views and dissenting opinions.****
(5) Parliament shall enact legislation that provides for the establishment of a body, which shall— (a) be independent of control by government, political interests or commercial interests; (b) reflect the interests of all sections of the society; and *(c) set media standards and regulate and monitor compliance with those standards.*****
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On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:****
Thanks for sharing this Bwana Oloo,
This raises some very serious issues around the integrity of our media houses, the selfishness of our political aspirants, and the gullibility of our populace.
What measures can be taken to guard against further abuses?
Brian****
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:12 AM, william janak <williamjanak@yahoo.com> wrote:****
Hello out there!
All the discussions and commitments we have been making within the media industry about the need for restraint have been lost, more so with the coverage of the recent party primaries. For instance, the undue focus and exaggeration of certain situations by the media on Nyanza during the nominations and even now as we go towards the elections point to lack of restraint and a sense of responsibility. Of course there are other examples from other parts of the country.
There are credible reports that a number of candidates massively bribed individual journalists and continue to retain some ahead of the elections to skew the reporting in their favour. Some of the demonstration arising from the nominations were manipulated by the media and candidates. The demos, some of which were not necessarily spontaneous, were in some cases reported with glee as if that was what was expected.
For instance, I was in Kisumu on Sunday January 20, 2013 when the media reported that "Kisumu was paralyzed" and that Kondele was a "no go zone" and people were asked to avoid the Kisumu-Kakamega road. I went up to Kondele and saw the less than 20 youths who had lit fire on the Kondele -Kibos road. Traffic from Kakamega and Kibos was flowing and I used the route.
Most people simply watched them and went about their businesses as usual. The police came within less than ten minutes (actually Kondele Police Station is a stone throw away from the scene) and the youths helped the police to clear the road. Beyond the place- less than 300 hundred metres away, people did not even notice anything was happening. Those (I included) who later watched the TV footage on the incident could not believe both the way the images were presented and the comments.
More than ten of my friends who knew I was in Kisumu called me - alarmed - and my assurances that Kisumu was calm fell on deaf years. A number cancelled their trips to Kisumu and also advise others that Kisumu was unsafe. A friend of mine who runs a hotel reported more 5 of his regular guests who were due to arrive that day, canceling their bookings.
A two-day meeting with senior journalists and correspondents from all the six counties in Nyanza gave the clearest picture of the extent to which the reporting was manipulated both from Nairobi and locally and the interests and influences that attended to the period and which apparently continue, and will into the actual polling day.
Two journalists in one of the counties, were at one time virtually coerced -in the night - by two contesting sides to announce incomplete results and got virtually held hostage when they refused to take the bribe money they were offered. The same groups bribed returning officers and threatened others.
In some areas, including Nyatike, some journalists have been completely barred or face such threats due to their perceived support for some candidates. Indeed most of the reports currently being carried by the media are actually sourced from on phone and from sources, both within the government and others that cannot be cannot be described as credible, or capable of giving the true picture of the situation.
There is an initiative I am involved in with others, to compile some information on these trends. Journalists were also under pressure or became victims of bribery in other parts of the country including Mombasa, Nairobi, Rift Valley, Central among others. The attitude and interests of some editors and media houses is not encouraging or helpful at all.
Some candidates had unfettered access to some media houses to declare themselves winners or "thank" people in their regions for electing them even when they did not win! Talk show hosts in some stations acted and continue to act as party activists in their comments, declaring which candidate will win and the others who will be "taught a lesson".
I think we are not being honest and we are going to again debate the role of the media in fueling conflicts after the elections. More ominously, the safety and security of some journalists across the country will be compromised.
Oloo Janak.****
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*From:* "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> *To:* williamjanak@yahoo.com *Cc:* KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 6, 2013 7:03 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Slaying the Tribal Monster!****
Edith, We had a press conference today about the same but everytime we raise these issues we get abused by very educated people. Politicians are supposed to expound on their Manifesto in public rallies and on TV but what we have seen is actually an attempt to fan violence through lies. We must refuse this as a people if we love this country. Politicians are ordinarily followers such that if we refuse to listen to their inciting messages, they will revert to something else possibly issues.
Ndemo.
Listers,
I can't resist but share my pain....that indeed the media can entertain "raw tribal discussions" on live TV! While one may argue that it's reality and we must deal with it, if it divides us and tears us apart, why not pursue other alternatives?...why not take advantage of this defining moment in our history (backed by the current constitution) to build a NEW FOUNDATION and help the country "unlearn" these bad habits that we've been socialized into over the years and has taken us no-where? It's possible to "unlearn"!!
The good bible tells us "teach thy children the ways of the Lord and they shall never depart from it"....in the same vein "feed Kenyans with positive vibes and we shall build a stronger and more united country"
Media (which forms this important industry represented on this list) is well aware that by their very nature, they "set the agenda and shape public opinion". You have a huge responsibility to play in carving a great future for Kenya, stand up and resist ethnic division in this country. We must build our nation based on development concerns and address issues dear to the hearts of Kenyans.
When last time (2007/2008), Bwana Ndemo gave his opinion (official or non-official) about the role the media played in 2007, I wonder if he wasn't right? Where is NCIC? Where is the Media Council?
This madness has to stop!
Edith (my heart is bleeding for Kenya).
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Yes Daniel.Let us be brave and remove anonymity from the internet(if required) and see how it plays out.You may be surprised by the results.Right here in Nairobi,the mere appearance of police makes our motorists behave so well on the road . John Kariuki Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Waweru <daniel.waweru@gmail.com> Sender: "kictanet" <kictanet-bounces+ngethe.kariuki2007=yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 18:53:50 To: <ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum<mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [mediaeditors] Slaying the Tribal Monster! - The media again! _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngethe.kariuki2007%40y... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Edith, I think we have done what needs to be done with respect to Media Regulation in this country. Any further regulation will amount to an affront on freedom of speech. In my view we need to train Kenyans to ignore and embrace non tribalistic practices. This is a very powerful strategy and one that Mahatma Gandhi used when fighting the British. Scholars called non violence and it succeeded. Some of us used it in Western Capitals to fight racism. I never let racism get into my head but the strategy helped me be whom I am today. My friend who fought it at every encounter never got to finish college. He has not come home to date as he feels embarrassed to come back without the certificates he was sent to bring home. Similarly, it is time we ignored tribalism. You have to start with yourself and become a living example of a non tribal environment. It works since I have tried it here in my office. If I need a new staff, I ask HR to get me whoever is available. I have seen this replicated throughout my senior management. In fact some get embarrassed to do something tribal and yet we never discuss it. This is the complexity of human mind. You may argue that if we do not speak about the other tribes would practice is to the detriment of others. This is false. If you do not ask and watch studies show that those who will end up being tribal will start to fight among themselves and seek to be friends outside of their core group. When you fight, it gives the glue that brings the opposing side to stick together. There is a large body of research on this especially on the success of immigrants. Kenyans in Uganda come from all tribes of Kenya but live there as a family. Usually this happens when the host sometimes becomes hostile to immigrants. Asian immigrants have too succeeded even in areas where you have both Indians and Pakistanis who ordinarily fight one another in their homeland. Mind your own self and you will live longer. Ndemo.
Well said Wainaina, as someone who has worked in mainstream media...we hear you.
Can we hear from Bwana Ndemo and Minister on this?
Edith
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Eng. Wainaina Mungai Sent: February 8, 2013 2:15 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] [mediaeditors] Slaying the Tribal Monster! - The media again!
Exactly five years ago, in February 2008, we had this thread on Kictanet - http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/2008-February/003789.html
As you can tell from the thread, the role of the media during elections is a delicate topic. However, we need to curve a new reality for Kenyan media. I believe in an enabling environment through regulation that tames vested interests of individual media owners. I speak as one who has worked in the management teams of two private media houses after having been significantly involved in the National ICT Policy process, WSIS process and the digital migration debate. From experience, we need regulation at all levels including ensuring media houses taking responsibility for content that goes through the airwaves licensed to them and legislating the requirement for privately-owned media houses. to be impartial in coverage and responsible for their content. The Constitutional and legal provisions may be a powerful way for us to ensure responsible media. As such, we need to revisit Section 34 of the new Constitution which may hold the answer to the loopholes and barriers we created in the Constitutional review process.
See below:
SECTION 34: FREEDOM OF THE MEDIA (1) Freedom and independence of electronic, print and all other types of media is guaranteed, but does not extend to any expression specified in Article 33 (2).
(2) The State shall not- (a) exercise control over or interfere with any person engaged in broadcasting, the production or circulation of any publication or the dissemination of information by any medium; or (b) penalise any person for any opinion or view or the content of any broadcast, publication or dissemination. (3) Broadcasting and other electronic media have freedom of establishment, subject only to licensing procedures that- (a) are necessary to regulate the airwaves and other forms of signal distribution; and (b) are independent of control by government, political interests or commercial interests. (4) All State-owned media shall- (a) be free to determine independently the editorial content of their broadcasts or other communications; (b) be impartial; and (c) afford fair opportunity for the presentation of divergent views and dissenting opinions. (5) Parliament shall enact legislation that provides for the establishment of a body, which shall- (a) be independent of control by government, political interests or commercial interests; (b) reflect the interests of all sections of the society; and (c) set media standards and regulate and monitor compliance with those standards.
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com<mailto:blongwe@gmail.com>> wrote: Thanks for sharing this Bwana Oloo,
This raises some very serious issues around the integrity of our media houses, the selfishness of our political aspirants, and the gullibility of our populace.
What measures can be taken to guard against further abuses?
Brian On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:12 AM, william janak <williamjanak@yahoo.com<mailto:williamjanak@yahoo.com>> wrote: Hello out there!
All the discussions and commitments we have been making within the media industry about the need for restraint have been lost, more so with the coverage of the recent party primaries. For instance, the undue focus and exaggeration of certain situations by the media on Nyanza during the nominations and even now as we go towards the elections point to lack of restraint and a sense of responsibility. Of course there are other examples from other parts of the country.
There are credible reports that a number of candidates massively bribed individual journalists and continue to retain some ahead of the elections to skew the reporting in their favour. Some of the demonstration arising from the nominations were manipulated by the media and candidates. The demos, some of which were not necessarily spontaneous, were in some cases reported with glee as if that was what was expected.
For instance, I was in Kisumu on Sunday January 20, 2013 when the media reported that "Kisumu was paralyzed" and that Kondele was a "no go zone" and people were asked to avoid the Kisumu-Kakamega road. I went up to Kondele and saw the less than 20 youths who had lit fire on the Kondele -Kibos road. Traffic from Kakamega and Kibos was flowing and I used the route.
Most people simply watched them and went about their businesses as usual. The police came within less than ten minutes (actually Kondele Police Station is a stone throw away from the scene) and the youths helped the police to clear the road. Beyond the place- less than 300 hundred metres away, people did not even notice anything was happening. Those (I included) who later watched the TV footage on the incident could not believe both the way the images were presented and the comments.
More than ten of my friends who knew I was in Kisumu called me - alarmed - and my assurances that Kisumu was calm fell on deaf years. A number cancelled their trips to Kisumu and also advise others that Kisumu was unsafe. A friend of mine who runs a hotel reported more 5 of his regular guests who were due to arrive that day, canceling their bookings.
A two-day meeting with senior journalists and correspondents from all the six counties in Nyanza gave the clearest picture of the extent to which the reporting was manipulated both from Nairobi and locally and the interests and influences that attended to the period and which apparently continue, and will into the actual polling day.
Two journalists in one of the counties, were at one time virtually coerced -in the night - by two contesting sides to announce incomplete results and got virtually held hostage when they refused to take the bribe money they were offered. The same groups bribed returning officers and threatened others.
In some areas, including Nyatike, some journalists have been completely barred or face such threats due to their perceived support for some candidates. Indeed most of the reports currently being carried by the media are actually sourced from on phone and from sources, both within the government and others that cannot be cannot be described as credible, or capable of giving the true picture of the situation.
There is an initiative I am involved in with others, to compile some information on these trends. Journalists were also under pressure or became victims of bribery in other parts of the country including Mombasa, Nairobi, Rift Valley, Central among others. The attitude and interests of some editors and media houses is not encouraging or helpful at all.
Some candidates had unfettered access to some media houses to declare themselves winners or "thank" people in their regions for electing them even when they did not win! Talk show hosts in some stations acted and continue to act as party activists in their comments, declaring which candidate will win and the others who will be "taught a lesson".
I think we are not being honest and we are going to again debate the role of the media in fueling conflicts after the elections. More ominously, the safety and security of some journalists across the country will be compromised.
Oloo Janak.
________________________________ From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke<mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke>" <bitange@jambo.co.ke<mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke>> To: williamjanak@yahoo.com<mailto:williamjanak@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke>>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Slaying the Tribal Monster!
Edith, We had a press conference today about the same but everytime we raise these issues we get abused by very educated people. Politicians are supposed to expound on their Manifesto in public rallies and on TV but what we have seen is actually an attempt to fan violence through lies. We must refuse this as a people if we love this country. Politicians are ordinarily followers such that if we refuse to listen to their inciting messages, they will revert to something else possibly issues.
Ndemo.
Listers,
I can't resist but share my pain....that indeed the media can entertain "raw tribal discussions" on live TV! While one may argue that it's reality and we must deal with it, if it divides us and tears us apart, why not pursue other alternatives?...why not take advantage of this defining moment in our history (backed by the current constitution) to build a NEW FOUNDATION and help the country "unlearn" these bad habits that we've been socialized into over the years and has taken us no-where? It's possible to "unlearn"!!
The good bible tells us "teach thy children the ways of the Lord and they shall never depart from it"....in the same vein "feed Kenyans with positive vibes and we shall build a stronger and more united country"
Media (which forms this important industry represented on this list) is well aware that by their very nature, they "set the agenda and shape public opinion". You have a huge responsibility to play in carving a great future for Kenya, stand up and resist ethnic division in this country. We must build our nation based on development concerns and address issues dear to the hearts of Kenyans.
When last time (2007/2008), Bwana Ndemo gave his opinion (official or non-official) about the role the media played in 2007, I wonder if he wasn't right? Where is NCIC? Where is the Media Council?
This madness has to stop!
Edith (my heart is bleeding for Kenya).
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Well said Bwana Ndemo, WE citizens need to lead not follow when it comes to setting agendas (not politicians)...otherwise we lose direction. As one famous quote says "if you don't know where you're going, any road will lead you there"!!! -----Original Message----- From: bitange@jambo.co.ke [mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke] Sent: February 6, 2013 7:04 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: Julie Gichuru; KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Slaying the Tribal Monster! Edith, We had a press conference today about the same but everytime we raise these issues we get abused by very educated people. Politicians are supposed to expound on their Manifesto in public rallies and on TV but what we have seen is actually an attempt to fan violence through lies. We must refuse this as a people if we love this country. Politicians are ordinarily followers such that if we refuse to listen to their inciting messages, they will revert to something else possibly issues. Ndemo.
Listers,
I can't resist but share my pain....that indeed the media can entertain "raw tribal discussions" on live TV! While one may argue that it's reality and we must deal with it, if it divides us and tears us apart, why not pursue other alternatives?...why not take advantage of this defining moment in our history (backed by the current constitution) to build a NEW FOUNDATION and help the country "unlearn" these bad habits that we've been socialized into over the years and has taken us no-where? It's possible to "unlearn"!!
The good bible tells us "teach thy children the ways of the Lord and they shall never depart from it"....in the same vein "feed Kenyans with positive vibes and we shall build a stronger and more united country"
Media (which forms this important industry represented on this list) is well aware that by their very nature, they "set the agenda and shape public opinion". You have a huge responsibility to play in carving a great future for Kenya, stand up and resist ethnic division in this country. We must build our nation based on development concerns and address issues dear to the hearts of Kenyans.
When last time (2007/2008), Bwana Ndemo gave his opinion (official or non-official) about the role the media played in 2007, I wonder if he wasn't right? Where is NCIC? Where is the Media Council?
This madness has to stop!
Edith (my heart is bleeding for Kenya).
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Edith, We must take a few moments to congraturate our Media for sticking with issues. David Makali and team in his two programmes, Julie Gichuru and their colleagues from other stations have done a sterling job but we are let down everytime these politicians pick up the microphone to talk to the harpless citizens. Ndemo.
Listers,
I can't resist but share my pain....that indeed the media can entertain "raw tribal discussions" on live TV! While one may argue that it's reality and we must deal with it, if it divides us and tears us apart, why not pursue other alternatives?...why not take advantage of this defining moment in our history (backed by the current constitution) to build a NEW FOUNDATION and help the country "unlearn" these bad habits that we've been socialized into over the years and has taken us no-where? It's possible to "unlearn"!!
The good bible tells us "teach thy children the ways of the Lord and they shall never depart from it"....in the same vein "feed Kenyans with positive vibes and we shall build a stronger and more united country"
Media (which forms this important industry represented on this list) is well aware that by their very nature, they "set the agenda and shape public opinion". You have a huge responsibility to play in carving a great future for Kenya, stand up and resist ethnic division in this country. We must build our nation based on development concerns and address issues dear to the hearts of Kenyans.
When last time (2007/2008), Bwana Ndemo gave his opinion (official or non-official) about the role the media played in 2007, I wonder if he wasn't right? Where is NCIC? Where is the Media Council?
This madness has to stop!
Edith (my heart is bleeding for Kenya).
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Bwana Ndemo, Glad to know you had a press conference to begin to tame this "monster". I think the media can do more by creating a platform to allow us to begin to move as a nation towards healing, reconciliation and cohesion. What we seem to be lacking as a country is a unifying, strategic framework with clear phased out plan for implementation that would move us in that direction so we can "unlearn" what is entrenched in our systems and build a better Kenya. I don't know what NCIC is doing except chasing "haters" (read "hate speech"), but I think a more coherent and strategic approach is required involving the media and galvanizing the citizens around it. This is what the media should have "time" for rather than to over-politicize everything....and waste valuable airtime on politicians who are not helping us move forward as a country....then ordinary citizens become spectators. For example Julie's past show "fist to five" is a good example of how you can take a nation through dealing with the reality (tribalism) & healing, but you MUST then follow immediately with a strategy to take the nation to a place of healing and cohesion - and there are ways to do that at a national level. Infact, I was wondering, by now we should have "unpacked" all Presidential candidates like is done elsewhere (e.g. US and other places) to really know who they are.....past performance/achievements, social life, weaknesses, etc etc and focus on how they can deliver on real issues. (without tearing ourselves apart). Secondly, we should not vote "6 piece suit" but for every elective position gauge against leadership standards so you chose the right leader irrespective of their party (what is called "skirt and blouse" or "trouser and shirt" elsewhere)...NO 6 piece suits (they don't exist in the world anyway!) I was in Ghana for official duty during their Presidential campaigns (just before the election day), I was amazed at how the candidates were so much under scrutiny from citizens that they could not focus on anything else except "desperately sell their development agendas"...and on the sidelines civil society were busy traversing the country preaching peach and many saying "we can't afford a Kenya here in Ghana" (yet to me, it seemed peaceful and the indicators of potential violence were not obvious...so their level of desperation for peace caught my attention). When I enquired, some said we have been through hell as a nation with many coup d'états and wars that they have come to a place where they fight for peace first! Do we want to go through that pain to learn? I recall the IEBC chair reporting after his return from monitoring the Ghanaian that he was impressed at how everyone carried themselves including the media. Why are we allowing this madness in Kenya? The media needs to rethink and revisit their editorial policies and strategies. I hope Citizen TV and others are listening Edith -----Original Message----- From: bitange@jambo.co.ke [mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke] Sent: February 6, 2013 7:07 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: Julie Gichuru; KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Slaying the Tribal Monster! Edith, We must take a few moments to congraturate our Media for sticking with issues. David Makali and team in his two programmes, Julie Gichuru and their colleagues from other stations have done a sterling job but we are let down everytime these politicians pick up the microphone to talk to the harpless citizens. Ndemo.
Listers,
I can't resist but share my pain....that indeed the media can entertain "raw tribal discussions" on live TV! While one may argue that it's reality and we must deal with it, if it divides us and tears us apart, why not pursue other alternatives?...why not take advantage of this defining moment in our history (backed by the current constitution) to build a NEW FOUNDATION and help the country "unlearn" these bad habits that we've been socialized into over the years and has taken us no-where? It's possible to "unlearn"!!
The good bible tells us "teach thy children the ways of the Lord and they shall never depart from it"....in the same vein "feed Kenyans with positive vibes and we shall build a stronger and more united country"
Media (which forms this important industry represented on this list) is well aware that by their very nature, they "set the agenda and shape public opinion". You have a huge responsibility to play in carving a great future for Kenya, stand up and resist ethnic division in this country. We must build our nation based on development concerns and address issues dear to the hearts of Kenyans.
When last time (2007/2008), Bwana Ndemo gave his opinion (official or non-official) about the role the media played in 2007, I wonder if he wasn't right? Where is NCIC? Where is the Media Council?
This madness has to stop!
Edith (my heart is bleeding for Kenya).
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+1 Edith On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
Bwana Ndemo,
Glad to know you had a press conference to begin to tame this "monster".
I think the media can do more by creating a platform to allow us to begin to move as a nation towards healing, reconciliation and cohesion. What we seem to be lacking as a country is a unifying, strategic framework with clear phased out plan for implementation that would move us in that direction so we can "unlearn" what is entrenched in our systems and build a better Kenya. I don't know what NCIC is doing except chasing "haters" (read "hate speech"), but I think a more coherent and strategic approach is required involving the media and galvanizing the citizens around it.
This is what the media should have "time" for rather than to over-politicize everything....and waste valuable airtime on politicians who are not helping us move forward as a country....then ordinary citizens become spectators. For example Julie's past show "fist to five" is a good example of how you can take a nation through dealing with the reality (tribalism) & healing, but you MUST then follow immediately with a strategy to take the nation to a place of healing and cohesion - and there are ways to do that at a national level.
Infact, I was wondering, by now we should have "unpacked" all Presidential candidates like is done elsewhere (e.g. US and other places) to really know who they are.....past performance/achievements, social life, weaknesses, etc etc and focus on how they can deliver on real issues. (without tearing ourselves apart). Secondly, we should not vote "6 piece suit" but for every elective position gauge against leadership standards so you chose the right leader irrespective of their party (what is called "skirt and blouse" or "trouser and shirt" elsewhere)...NO 6 piece suits (they don't exist in the world anyway!)
I was in Ghana for official duty during their Presidential campaigns (just before the election day), I was amazed at how the candidates were so much under scrutiny from citizens that they could not focus on anything else except "desperately sell their development agendas"...and on the sidelines civil society were busy traversing the country preaching peach and many saying "we can't afford a Kenya here in Ghana" (yet to me, it seemed peaceful and the indicators of potential violence were not obvious...so their level of desperation for peace caught my attention). When I enquired, some said we have been through hell as a nation with many coup d'états and wars that they have come to a place where they fight for peace first! Do we want to go through that pain to learn?
I recall the IEBC chair reporting after his return from monitoring the Ghanaian that he was impressed at how everyone carried themselves including the media.
Why are we allowing this madness in Kenya? The media needs to rethink and revisit their editorial policies and strategies. I hope Citizen TV and others are listening
Edith
-----Original Message----- From: bitange@jambo.co.ke [mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke] Sent: February 6, 2013 7:07 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: Julie Gichuru; KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Slaying the Tribal Monster!
Edith, We must take a few moments to congraturate our Media for sticking with issues. David Makali and team in his two programmes, Julie Gichuru and their colleagues from other stations have done a sterling job but we are let down everytime these politicians pick up the microphone to talk to the harpless citizens.
Ndemo.
Listers,
I can't resist but share my pain....that indeed the media can entertain "raw tribal discussions" on live TV! While one may argue that it's reality and we must deal with it, if it divides us and tears us apart, why not pursue other alternatives?...why not take advantage of this defining moment in our history (backed by the current constitution) to build a NEW FOUNDATION and help the country "unlearn" these bad habits that we've been socialized into over the years and has taken us no-where? It's possible to "unlearn"!!
The good bible tells us "teach thy children the ways of the Lord and they shall never depart from it"....in the same vein "feed Kenyans with positive vibes and we shall build a stronger and more united country"
Media (which forms this important industry represented on this list) is well aware that by their very nature, they "set the agenda and shape public opinion". You have a huge responsibility to play in carving a great future for Kenya, stand up and resist ethnic division in this country. We must build our nation based on development concerns and address issues dear to the hearts of Kenyans.
When last time (2007/2008), Bwana Ndemo gave his opinion (official or non-official) about the role the media played in 2007, I wonder if he wasn't right? Where is NCIC? Where is the Media Council?
This madness has to stop!
Edith (my heart is bleeding for Kenya).
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There is something called positive ethnicity, where our diversity is embraced as richness, and all citizens appreciate what we all bring to the table. We might not slay the tribalism monster with this generation, but we will achieve that with our children who find it hard to speak mother tongue. It is better to discuss openly issues that disturb us, and get to the bottom of them, than talk in hashed tones in our sitting rooms like it was in previous regimes. This is a rite of passage we cannot miss. Americans understood the importance of diversity by introducing the DV Program. There is strength in Diversity. Lets embrace it. Regards -- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva For Business Development Transworld Computer Channels Cel: 0722402248 twitter.com/lordmwesh transworldAfrica.com | Fluent in computing kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know
True Mwendwa. Little is being done to enable people to embrace diversity. Valuable time and effort is in my view, being spent castigating tribalism to the extent that even the mention of one's ethnic origin in some quarters for example is viewed negatively. I think NCIC has not done a good job on the former. Plus, I guess some people can't tell the difference between tribe and tribalism. Gagging speech, changing names, or pretence will not help this country. Therefore, free, constructive and open discussions on these subjects should be embraced and encouraged. In addition, civic education may still be necessary to help people distinguish what constitutes +ve/-ve ethnicity or tribalism, hate speech and to understand the extent and limit of their freedom of speech. Victor On 7 Feb 2013 17:33, "Kivuva" <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
There is something called positive ethnicity, where our diversity is embraced as richness, and all citizens appreciate what we all bring to the table. We might not slay the tribalism monster with this generation, but we will achieve that with our children who find it hard to speak mother tongue.
It is better to discuss openly issues that disturb us, and get to the bottom of them, than talk in hashed tones in our sitting rooms like it was in previous regimes. This is a rite of passage we cannot miss.
Americans understood the importance of diversity by introducing the DV Program. There is strength in Diversity. Lets embrace it.
Regards
-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva For Business Development Transworld Computer Channels Cel: 0722402248 twitter.com/lordmwesh transworldAfrica.com | Fluent in computing kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know
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