Re: [kictanet] Consumer Protection and KPLC
Maybe if we opt for renewable energy solution then we can diversify the our energy solutions. ------------------------------ On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 12:05 AM PST Odhiambo Washington wrote:
+1
Pray, one day, that the monopoly will have competition!
You can see how Telkom Kenya (now Orange) pleads with customers to sign up? This was unimaginable some years back. One had to grease hands and even opt to "Watchman" column on the Nation to get a line. Time has a solution for KPLC!
On 24 February 2013 23:27, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
While on the KPLC issue, I've always wondered why the monopoly always insists on charging poor Kenyans, including those in rural areas ksh32,000 for electricity installation. That cost is beyond the reach of many, while the infrastructure put in place still belongs to KPLC and now KETRACO, as well as the community.
This cost hinders many from joining the national grid.
On 24/02/2013, stephen Mutoro <smutoro@yahoo.com> wrote:
For MOIC, it is cheaper to respond to Court issues than reply to a letter. Like KPLC, set top boxes is a pricing issue. Good or bad, public policy, has a price tag (overt or covert) ...
________________________________ From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: stephen Mutoro <smutoro@yahoo.com> Cc: bitange@jambo.co.ke; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; "margaret@cofek.co.ke" <margaret@cofek.co.ke> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:44 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Consumer Protection and KPLC
MOIC got to know from the courts. MOIC issue is a policy matter not a pricing issue.
Ndemo.
Thanks Andy,
Unlike MOIC, KPLC took our concerns seriously. They responded to our concerns and published them in today's Nation page 37. If you missed it, you can catch it at: http://www.cofek.co.ke/Kenya%20Power%20letter%20to%20Cofek.pdf Further, there is a stakeholder consultation at KICC tomorrow morning.
Kind regards,
Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke
________________________________ From: Andy G <andy.gesora@gmail.com> To: smutoro@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 10:18 AM Subject: [kictanet] Consumer Protection and KPLC
So KPLC has proposed to ERC to be allowed to effect massive changes in elelctricity tariffs, to be based on your consumption band. This could be good or bad, depending from what point you look at it, either pro or anti KPLC. In effect this could have a huge impact in business and investments including ICT investments?
I have no idea if this falls within the band of Consumer Protection, but give its impact on millions of consumers, could this be one issue that Cofek might have set its sights on and fight for the powerless Kenyan consumer?
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Meshack, even with renewable energy, KPLC retains its monopoly on transmission. What we need is to deregulate the transmission of electricity. Regards, Harry Karanja Sent from my iPad On Feb 25, 2013, at 11:23 AM, meshack emakunat <memakunat@yahoo.com> wrote:
Maybe if we opt for renewable energy solution then we can diversify the our energy solutions.
------------------------------ On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 12:05 AM PST Odhiambo Washington wrote:
+1
Pray, one day, that the monopoly will have competition!
You can see how Telkom Kenya (now Orange) pleads with customers to sign up? This was unimaginable some years back. One had to grease hands and even opt to "Watchman" column on the Nation to get a line. Time has a solution for KPLC!
On 24 February 2013 23:27, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
While on the KPLC issue, I've always wondered why the monopoly always insists on charging poor Kenyans, including those in rural areas ksh32,000 for electricity installation. That cost is beyond the reach of many, while the infrastructure put in place still belongs to KPLC and now KETRACO, as well as the community.
This cost hinders many from joining the national grid.
On 24/02/2013, stephen Mutoro <smutoro@yahoo.com> wrote:
For MOIC, it is cheaper to respond to Court issues than reply to a letter. Like KPLC, set top boxes is a pricing issue. Good or bad, public policy, has a price tag (overt or covert) ...
________________________________ From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: stephen Mutoro <smutoro@yahoo.com> Cc: bitange@jambo.co.ke; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; "margaret@cofek.co.ke" <margaret@cofek.co.ke> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:44 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Consumer Protection and KPLC
MOIC got to know from the courts. MOIC issue is a policy matter not a pricing issue.
Ndemo.
Thanks Andy,
Unlike MOIC, KPLC took our concerns seriously. They responded to our concerns and published them in today's Nation page 37. If you missed it, you can catch it at: http://www.cofek.co.ke/Kenya%20Power%20letter%20to%20Cofek.pdf Further, there is a stakeholder consultation at KICC tomorrow morning.
Kind regards,
Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke
________________________________ From: Andy G <andy.gesora@gmail.com> To: smutoro@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 10:18 AM Subject: [kictanet] Consumer Protection and KPLC
So KPLC has proposed to ERC to be allowed to effect massive changes in elelctricity tariffs, to be based on your consumption band. This could be good or bad, depending from what point you look at it, either pro or anti KPLC. In effect this could have a huge impact in business and investments including ICT investments?
I have no idea if this falls within the band of Consumer Protection, but give its impact on millions of consumers, could this be one issue that Cofek might have set its sights on and fight for the powerless Kenyan consumer?
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in addition to Kivuva's remarks, I always wonder, why are Kenyan parastatals/public and state owned companies so keen on making profits? Who told them their core mandate is to make profits? Why do they spend good money on media campaigns, praising themselves for making profits? What use is that profit, eg by KPLC if its not more wananchi getting electricity (or the ones on the grid getting reliable power?) 2013/2/25 Harry Karanja <kkairo@gmail.com>
Meshack, even with renewable energy, KPLC retains its monopoly on transmission. What we need is to deregulate the transmission of electricity.
Regards, Harry Karanja
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 25, 2013, at 11:23 AM, meshack emakunat <memakunat@yahoo.com> wrote:
Maybe if we opt for renewable energy solution then we can diversify the
our energy solutions.
------------------------------ On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 12:05 AM PST Odhiambo Washington wrote:
+1
Pray, one day, that the monopoly will have competition!
You can see how Telkom Kenya (now Orange) pleads with customers to sign
This was unimaginable some years back. One had to grease hands and even opt to "Watchman" column on the Nation to get a line. Time has a solution for KPLC!
On 24 February 2013 23:27, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
While on the KPLC issue, I've always wondered why the monopoly always insists on charging poor Kenyans, including those in rural areas ksh32,000 for electricity installation. That cost is beyond the reach of many, while the infrastructure put in place still belongs to KPLC and now KETRACO, as well as the community.
This cost hinders many from joining the national grid.
On 24/02/2013, stephen Mutoro <smutoro@yahoo.com> wrote:
For MOIC, it is cheaper to respond to Court issues than reply to a letter. Like KPLC, set top boxes is a pricing issue. Good or bad, public
has
a price tag (overt or covert) ...
________________________________ From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: stephen Mutoro <smutoro@yahoo.com> Cc: bitange@jambo.co.ke; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; "margaret@cofek.co.ke" <margaret@cofek.co.ke> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:44 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Consumer Protection and KPLC
MOIC got to know from the courts. MOIC issue is a policy matter not a pricing issue.
Ndemo.
Thanks Andy,
Unlike MOIC, KPLC took our concerns seriously. They responded to our concerns and published them in today's Nation page 37. If you missed it, you can catch it at: http://www.cofek.co.ke/Kenya%20Power%20letter%20to%20Cofek.pdf Further, there is a stakeholder consultation at KICC tomorrow morning.
Kind regards,
Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke
________________________________ From: Andy G <andy.gesora@gmail.com> To: smutoro@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 10:18 AM Subject: [kictanet] Consumer Protection and KPLC
So KPLC has proposed to ERC to be allowed to effect massive changes in elelctricity tariffs, to be based on your consumption band. This could be good or bad, depending from what point you look at it, either pro or anti KPLC. In effect this could have a huge impact in business and investments including ICT investments?
I have no idea if this falls within the band of Consumer Protection, but give its impact on millions of consumers, could this be one issue that Cofek might have set its sights on and fight for the powerless Kenyan consumer?
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On 25 February 2013 16:58, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote:
in addition to Kivuva's remarks, I always wonder, why are Kenyan parastatals/public and state owned companies so keen on making profits? Who told them their core mandate is to make profits? Why do they spend good money on media campaigns, praising themselves for making profits? What use is that profit, eg by KPLC if its not more wananchi getting electricity (or the ones on the grid getting reliable power?)
@Grace, this is a very sad affair. Don't forget that in 2011, the cost of electricity went up by 65%, and has continued to go up, currently 100 units of electricity are charged at about Sh1,538.85 Then we say we are competing with Egypt and South Africa in development and investment, while their power is multiple time cheaper. -- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh lord.me.ke | The Square peg in a Round Hole
@ Harry Karanja, The future energy policy is under preparation and you can access the draft at http://www.erc.go.ke/erc/erc_news_detailed/?ContentID=22 In 4. 4.4 Transmission Plan and 4.5 ELECTRIC POWER DISTRIBUTION you can make your views known. For your information the current Energy Act 2006 (created the Energy Regulatory Commission, the Energy Tribunal, Rural Electrification Authority, Geothermal Development Company, KETRACO etc.) )does not encourage any monopoly in generation (that is why Independent Power Producers have come on board), transmission and distribution. That is why KETRACO was formed to break KPLC monopoly. Rural Electrification Authority too now owns assets which previously were KPLC's only and one positive effect is that every 5 years the target is to connect not less than 1 million households. For example the number of electricity consumers increased by 289,709 in 2010/11 and 285,277 in 2011/12. What do you think about this futuristic proposal that the County Government may plan and develop reticulation (retail) services in line with national policy so that there is only one distributor in a given area at any particular time for efficiency and technical effectiveness of the national power network? Off grid networks too need to come in play (and of course if you supply a certain area one would not need to get KPLC there) and all that would be required is meeting national power grid standards for future interconnections. Investors need to step to the plate. David On 2/25/13, Harry Karanja <kkairo@gmail.com> wrote:
Meshack, even with renewable energy, KPLC retains its monopoly on transmission. What we need is to deregulate the transmission of electricity.
Regards, Harry Karanja
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 25, 2013, at 11:23 AM, meshack emakunat <memakunat@yahoo.com> wrote:
Maybe if we opt for renewable energy solution then we can diversify the our energy solutions.
------------------------------ On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 12:05 AM PST Odhiambo Washington wrote:
+1
Pray, one day, that the monopoly will have competition!
You can see how Telkom Kenya (now Orange) pleads with customers to sign up? This was unimaginable some years back. One had to grease hands and even opt to "Watchman" column on the Nation to get a line. Time has a solution for KPLC!
On 24 February 2013 23:27, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
While on the KPLC issue, I've always wondered why the monopoly always insists on charging poor Kenyans, including those in rural areas ksh32,000 for electricity installation. That cost is beyond the reach of many, while the infrastructure put in place still belongs to KPLC and now KETRACO, as well as the community.
This cost hinders many from joining the national grid.
On 24/02/2013, stephen Mutoro <smutoro@yahoo.com> wrote:
For MOIC, it is cheaper to respond to Court issues than reply to a letter. Like KPLC, set top boxes is a pricing issue. Good or bad, public policy, has a price tag (overt or covert) ...
________________________________ From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: stephen Mutoro <smutoro@yahoo.com> Cc: bitange@jambo.co.ke; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; "margaret@cofek.co.ke" <margaret@cofek.co.ke> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:44 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Consumer Protection and KPLC
MOIC got to know from the courts. MOIC issue is a policy matter not a pricing issue.
Ndemo.
Thanks Andy,
Unlike MOIC, KPLC took our concerns seriously. They responded to our concerns and published them in today's Nation page 37. If you missed it, you can catch it at: http://www.cofek.co.ke/Kenya%20Power%20letter%20to%20Cofek.pdf Further, there is a stakeholder consultation at KICC tomorrow morning.
Kind regards,
Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke
________________________________ From: Andy G <andy.gesora@gmail.com> To: smutoro@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 10:18 AM Subject: [kictanet] Consumer Protection and KPLC
So KPLC has proposed to ERC to be allowed to effect massive changes in elelctricity tariffs, to be based on your consumption band. This could be good or bad, depending from what point you look at it, either pro or anti KPLC. In effect this could have a huge impact in business and investments including ICT investments?
I have no idea if this falls within the band of Consumer Protection, but give its impact on millions of consumers, could this be one issue that Cofek might have set its sights on and fight for the powerless Kenyan consumer?
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@David Does Ketraco really rival KPLC or was it just a mere separation of roles? Whether this was effective, I cannot say. From Ketraco's website, it defines its role as "KETRACO's core business is to plan, design, build, operate and maintain new electricity transmission lines and associated substations that will form the backbone of the National Transmission Grid." While KPLC defines its role as "Kenya Power transmits, distributes and retails electricity throughout Kenya." I only see this as a separation of Infrastructure and Business is what happened, but absolutely no competition among the two. Perhaps County governments could as well be involved in the retail side of business (connection, sale, quality issues) but the success of this will depend on how well a county government runs its business. If "Kanjo-like" business persists, then we are doomed. On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 5:34 PM, David Otwoma <otwomad@gmail.com> wrote:
@ Harry Karanja,
The future energy policy is under preparation and you can access the draft at http://www.erc.go.ke/erc/erc_news_detailed/?ContentID=22
In 4. 4.4 Transmission Plan and 4.5 ELECTRIC POWER DISTRIBUTION you can make your views known.
For your information the current Energy Act 2006 (created the Energy Regulatory Commission, the Energy Tribunal, Rural Electrification Authority, Geothermal Development Company, KETRACO etc.) )does not encourage any monopoly in generation (that is why Independent Power Producers have come on board), transmission and distribution. That is why KETRACO was formed to break KPLC monopoly. Rural Electrification Authority too now owns assets which previously were KPLC's only and one positive effect is that every 5 years the target is to connect not less than 1 million households. For example the number of electricity consumers increased by 289,709 in 2010/11 and 285,277 in 2011/12.
What do you think about this futuristic proposal that the County Government may plan and develop reticulation (retail) services in line with national policy so that there is only one distributor in a given area at any particular time for efficiency and technical effectiveness of the national power network? Off grid networks too need to come in play (and of course if you supply a certain area one would not need to get KPLC there) and all that would be required is meeting national power grid standards for future interconnections.
Investors need to step to the plate.
David
Meshack, even with renewable energy, KPLC retains its monopoly on transmission. What we need is to deregulate the transmission of electricity.
Regards, Harry Karanja
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 25, 2013, at 11:23 AM, meshack emakunat <memakunat@yahoo.com> wrote:
Maybe if we opt for renewable energy solution then we can diversify the our energy solutions.
------------------------------ On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 12:05 AM PST Odhiambo Washington wrote:
+1
Pray, one day, that the monopoly will have competition!
You can see how Telkom Kenya (now Orange) pleads with customers to sign up? This was unimaginable some years back. One had to grease hands and even opt to "Watchman" column on the Nation to get a line. Time has a solution for KPLC!
On 24 February 2013 23:27, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
While on the KPLC issue, I've always wondered why the monopoly always insists on charging poor Kenyans, including those in rural areas ksh32,000 for electricity installation. That cost is beyond the reach of many, while the infrastructure put in place still belongs to KPLC and now KETRACO, as well as the community.
This cost hinders many from joining the national grid.
On 24/02/2013, stephen Mutoro <smutoro@yahoo.com> wrote:
For MOIC, it is cheaper to respond to Court issues than reply to a letter. Like KPLC, set top boxes is a pricing issue. Good or bad, public policy, has a price tag (overt or covert) ...
________________________________ From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: stephen Mutoro <smutoro@yahoo.com> Cc: bitange@jambo.co.ke; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; "margaret@cofek.co.ke" <margaret@cofek.co.ke> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:44 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Consumer Protection and KPLC
MOIC got to know from the courts. MOIC issue is a policy matter not
a
pricing issue.
Ndemo.
Thanks Andy,
Unlike MOIC, KPLC took our concerns seriously. They responded to our concerns and published them in today's Nation page 37. If you missed it, you can catch it at: http://www.cofek.co.ke/Kenya%20Power%20letter%20to%20Cofek.pdf Further, there is a stakeholder consultation at KICC tomorrow morning.
Kind regards,
Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke
________________________________ From: Andy G <andy.gesora@gmail.com> To: smutoro@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 10:18 AM Subject: [kictanet] Consumer Protection and KPLC
So KPLC has proposed to ERC to be allowed to effect massive changes in elelctricity tariffs, to be based on your consumption band. This could be good or bad, depending from what point you look at it, either pro or anti KPLC. In effect this could have a huge impact in business and investments including ICT investments?
I have no idea if this falls within the band of Consumer Protection, but give its impact on millions of consumers, could this be one issue
Cofek might have set its sights on and fight for the powerless Kenyan consumer?
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There is still no separation of infrastructure and business for KPLC still owns and manages all transmission lines from pre colonial times upto when KETRACO was formed, that is about 98% of all lines. KETRACO only owns new lines from now henceforth On 25/02/2013, Andy G <andy.gesora@gmail.com> wrote:
@David
Does Ketraco really rival KPLC or was it just a mere separation of roles? Whether this was effective, I cannot say. From Ketraco's website, it defines its role as
"KETRACO's core business is to plan, design, build, operate and maintain new electricity transmission lines and associated substations that will form the backbone of the National Transmission Grid."
While KPLC defines its role as "Kenya Power transmits, distributes and retails electricity throughout Kenya."
I only see this as a separation of Infrastructure and Business is what happened, but absolutely no competition among the two. Perhaps County governments could as well be involved in the retail side of business (connection, sale, quality issues) but the success of this will depend on how well a county government runs its business. If "Kanjo-like" business persists, then we are doomed.
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 5:34 PM, David Otwoma <otwomad@gmail.com> wrote:
@ Harry Karanja,
The future energy policy is under preparation and you can access the draft at http://www.erc.go.ke/erc/erc_news_detailed/?ContentID=22
In 4. 4.4 Transmission Plan and 4.5 ELECTRIC POWER DISTRIBUTION you can make your views known.
For your information the current Energy Act 2006 (created the Energy Regulatory Commission, the Energy Tribunal, Rural Electrification Authority, Geothermal Development Company, KETRACO etc.) )does not encourage any monopoly in generation (that is why Independent Power Producers have come on board), transmission and distribution. That is why KETRACO was formed to break KPLC monopoly. Rural Electrification Authority too now owns assets which previously were KPLC's only and one positive effect is that every 5 years the target is to connect not less than 1 million households. For example the number of electricity consumers increased by 289,709 in 2010/11 and 285,277 in 2011/12.
What do you think about this futuristic proposal that the County Government may plan and develop reticulation (retail) services in line with national policy so that there is only one distributor in a given area at any particular time for efficiency and technical effectiveness of the national power network? Off grid networks too need to come in play (and of course if you supply a certain area one would not need to get KPLC there) and all that would be required is meeting national power grid standards for future interconnections.
Investors need to step to the plate.
David
Meshack, even with renewable energy, KPLC retains its monopoly on transmission. What we need is to deregulate the transmission of electricity.
Regards, Harry Karanja
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 25, 2013, at 11:23 AM, meshack emakunat <memakunat@yahoo.com> wrote:
Maybe if we opt for renewable energy solution then we can diversify the our energy solutions.
------------------------------ On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 12:05 AM PST Odhiambo Washington wrote:
+1
Pray, one day, that the monopoly will have competition!
You can see how Telkom Kenya (now Orange) pleads with customers to sign up? This was unimaginable some years back. One had to grease hands and even opt to "Watchman" column on the Nation to get a line. Time has a solution for KPLC!
On 24 February 2013 23:27, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
While on the KPLC issue, I've always wondered why the monopoly always insists on charging poor Kenyans, including those in rural areas ksh32,000 for electricity installation. That cost is beyond the reach of many, while the infrastructure put in place still belongs to KPLC and now KETRACO, as well as the community.
This cost hinders many from joining the national grid.
On 24/02/2013, stephen Mutoro <smutoro@yahoo.com> wrote: > For MOIC, it is cheaper to respond to Court issues than reply to a letter. > Like KPLC, set top boxes is a pricing issue. Good or bad, public > policy, has > a price tag (overt or covert) ... > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> > To: stephen Mutoro <smutoro@yahoo.com> > Cc: bitange@jambo.co.ke; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; "margaret@cofek.co.ke" > <margaret@cofek.co.ke> > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:44 PM > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Consumer Protection and KPLC > > MOIC got to know from the courts. MOIC issue is a policy matter > not
a
> pricing issue. > > > Ndemo. > > > > Thanks Andy, > > Unlike MOIC, KPLC took our concerns seriously. They responded to > our > concerns and published them in today's Nation page 37. If you > missed > it, > you can catch it at: > http://www.cofek.co.ke/Kenya%20Power%20letter%20to%20Cofek.pdf > Further, there is a stakeholder consultation at KICC tomorrow morning. > > > Kind regards, > > Stephen Mutoro > www.cofek.co.ke > > > > ________________________________ > From: Andy G <andy.gesora@gmail.com> > To: smutoro@yahoo.com > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 10:18 AM > Subject: [kictanet] Consumer Protection and KPLC > > > So KPLC has proposed to ERC to be allowed to effect massive changes in > elelctricity tariffs, to be based on your consumption band. This could be > good or bad, depending from what point you look at it, either pro > or anti > KPLC. In effect this could have a huge impact in business and investments > including ICT investments? > > I have no idea if this falls within the band of Consumer > Protection, > but > give its impact on millions of consumers, could this be one issue
> Cofek might have set its sights on and fight for the powerless > Kenyan > consumer? > > Just a thought for the weekend! > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at
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participants (6)
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Andy G -
David Otwoma -
Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) -
Harry Karanja -
Kivuva -
meshack emakunat