+1 For him to be able to forgive a government and a people that denied him a chance to even attend his children's burials while in jail!! he had to be truly special. I hope our leaders are able to let go of their fears; work with their 'enemies' and help build Kenya...RIP Madiba; you were one of a kind Kind regards, Edwin -----Original Message----- From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 12:55 PM To: Edwin Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 79, Issue 50 Send kictanet mailing list submissions to kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke You can reach the person managing the list at kictanet-owner@lists.kictanet.or.ke When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Nelson Mandela (Walubengo J) 2. Re: We must tread carefully on cyber security (Dennis Kioko) 3. Re: We must tread carefully on cyber security (ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 01:22:09 -0800 (PST) From: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> To: Eric Osiakwan <ericosiakwan@me.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Nelson Mandela Message-ID: <1386321729.14872.YahooMailBasic@web160601.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Not ICT related but allow me to also salute the African Icon Mandela. One thing he did very differently from an African perspective, is to leave office when he was still needed => good succession planning => good legacy. This is the most difficult lesson for our African leaders. #RIPNelsonMandela. walu. -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 12/6/13, Eric Osiakwan <ericosiakwan@me.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] Nelson Mandela To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, December 6, 2013, 12:08 PM +1 RIP NRM -- you have inscribed yourself into TIME and HUMANITY. Eric here On 6 Dec 2013, at 09:44, Lkimani <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote: My favorite Madiba quote: Conviction is contagious,?never underestimate thePower of persistence" ? ? ? ? ....Nelson Madiba Mandela RIP Tata Madiba you were and still are an an inspirationto us. ?We will truly miss you! Lucy Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: "Michael Elliott, ONE.org" <one-help@list.one.org> Date: December 6, 2013, 7:16:00 AM GMT+03:00 To: "Lucy Kimani" <lkimani@yahoo.com> Subject: Nelson Mandela Reply-To: "Michael Elliott, ONE.org" <one-help@list.one.org> Blank Email 'Sometimes, it falls upon a generation to be great.' Pay tribute to Nelson Mandela and share his powerful words today. ? Dear Lucy, Nelson Mandela's unwavering courage, forgiveness and hope touched and inspired people all around the world. He showed that the dream of a just society is possible and he challenged our generation to lead the way towards it. As Mandela said in his extraordinary 2005 speech in London's Trafalgar Square, 'Like slavery and apartheid, poverty is not natural. It is man-made and it can be overcome and eradicated by the actions of human beings.' And he ended his speech with a call that moves us still. 'Sometimes,' Mandela said, 'it falls upon a generation to be great. You can be that great generation. Let your greatness blossom.' One way to honor Nelson Mandela's memory is to share those words to prove every day that this generation can be the great one that ends extreme poverty. Share his words now. Michael Elliott President and CEO, ONE ? JOIN US. ONE.ORG?|?PRIVACY?|?UNSUBSCRIBE SPREAD THE WORD ? ? This email was sent by ONE.org to lkimani@yahoo.com. Add one-help@list.one.org to your address book to ensure our emails reach your inbox. Copyright ? 2013 ONE, All rights reserved. Our mailing address is: ONE Campaign 1400 Eye Street NW, Suite 600 Washington, DC 20005 ? _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ericosiakwan%40me.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. Eric M.K Osiakwan+233244386792?"Accraboy" 4 Skype@eosiakwan 4 Twitter ?about.me/ericosiakwan? -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 12:17:18 +0300 From: "Dennis Kioko" <dmbuvi@gmail.com> To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] We must tread carefully on cyber security Message-ID: <1386322434307.5d950364@CloudMagic> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20131206/daf69f 1f/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 09:49:50 +0000 From: ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com>, "kictanet" <kictanet-bounces+ngethe.kariuki2007=yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] We must tread carefully on cyber security Message-ID: <648232868-1386323389-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1588793321-@b 16.c1.bise7.blackberry> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Walu, Say it louder! We need substantial objectivity on some of these matters. John Kariuki. Sent from my BlackBerry? -----Original Message----- From: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> Sender: "kictanet" <kictanet-bounces+ngethe.kariuki2007=yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 00:19:47 To: <ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] We must tread carefully on cyber security @Ali, your comments sound like ITU-WCIT debate Reloaded :-) Let me be cheeky abit. If SPAM can ONLY be tackled by technology - why hasn't it been tackled? Indeed the technology that could kill spam (e.g. PKI deployment at IP, SMTP, DNS-SEC, etc- apologies for the Tech jargon) has been with us for over 10years...how come spam refused to die? Dont get me wrong, I am still civil-society biased. It is just that I get worried when solutions to complex problems are straight-jacketed into one block (tech, political, legal or otherwise). I think the solutions do not lie on ONE of the above, but all of the above. walu. -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 12/6/13, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] We must tread carefully on cyber security To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, December 6, 2013, 10:59 AM Walu I'm of the opinion that Spam is an issue tackled best by technology NOT legislation... Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ?~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Dec 6, 2013, at 10:54 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: @Ndemo, The fact that the raccoon (google says this is some animal in the US :-) did manage to flood your email with spam is a confirmation that we do need the cyber-laws even in Africa :-) Anyway, whereas I agree with most of your article I had a comment on this one paragraph : The industry sometimes lies with statistics that in most cases do not make any sense. Gullible nations are spending a fortune on cyber security. Even countries with less than one per cent Internet penetration are talking about cyber security. << I was of the opinion that countries with fewer machines online SHOULD be talking loudest about Cybersecurity simply because we live in a connected world. Most IT-savvy cyber-criminals ?based in developed economies hijack the few ?"3rd-world" (forgive the use of word) networks/computers to launch attacks in other jurisdictions. Unless there are laws/frameworks compelling corrective action most of these local networks will forever remain vulnerable. However, it also true is that some autocratic/non-democratic governments are going to ride this cyber-security bandwagon for the sake of adding more repression to their citizenry. The civil-society (recently baptized as evil-society :-) must forever be watchful. walu. -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 12/6/13, Bitange Ndemo <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] We must tread carefully on cyber security To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, December 6, 2013, 8:12 AM Hussein, Some raccoon decided to clog my e-mail with spam as punishment because of the article.? I am not opposed to cyber security but some people (and you remember Dubai) want to use cyber security as a basis for stifling internet freedom. Ndemo. Grace Thanks for sharing. We indeed must tread carefully. There is definitely a case for a regulatory framework. This must however be tampered with the understanding that too much regulation will throttle the industry. It is a fine balance that we must maintain. *Ali Hussein* Tel: +254 770 906375/ 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> Blog: www.alyhussein.com Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com>wrote: n Kenya, we have done extremely well in the adoption of ICTs. This is a field that requires a lot of creativity, but we may just end up killing that creativity with too many rules and regulations in trying to counter computer crime sometimes referred to as cybercrime or netcrime. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Opinion-and-Analysis/We-must-tread-carefu lly-on-cyber-security/-/539548/2098892/-/item/0/-/12mo495/-/index.html _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. Business School University of Nairobi Lower Kabete Campus _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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