@Mwendwa, thnx for the reminder on ISOC-Kenya. Actually I had not forgotten it, I just thought it was relatively younger than some of the other organisations that have been around (e.g. Computer Society of Kenya-1992? vs ISOC-2013?). But then again, you could be right, being too old could be a liability :-) So yes, ISOC-Kenya should be considered as young and upcoming :-). Meanwhile, ICANN and its affiliates does "own" the internet, not in terms of its (Telco/Network) infrastructure, but in terms of its governance/policy structures. The thrust of the argument is that if you want to impact/influence the governance of Internet, the ONLY currently available way is through ICANN ecosystem/affiliates. This does not mean it is the best situation (esp. for Governments :-), but it only acknowledges that it is the best entry point for influencing internet policy/governance. walu. -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 4/30/14, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] What is the Kenyan position on global Internet governance? To: jwalu@yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, April 30, 2014, 9:37 AM Walu, you have forgotten Internet Society. Should we pull up our socks in being more visible? :) ISOC is the formost organisation that is responsible for Internet policy and standards development (Read IETF), and advocacy and reach of Internet to all corners of the globe especially the global south. ISOC Kenya has more members than some of the mentioned institutions. Furthermore, ISOC Kenya together with Kictanet and other partners is the convenor of the Kenya Internet Governance forum. For those who went to Brazil, I would be keen to know how the Kenyan Government was represented. I saw some government ministers from several African counties give opening remarks. What do you mean by "the owner of the Internet is ICANN?" As I understand, the Internet is made up of Interconnected networks, with hosts and unique identifiers. The unique identifiers do not constitute the Internet on their own. Best -- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.