CCK,Cofek digital TV talks fail to take off
Negotiations between Communications Commission of Kenya and Consumer Federation, aimed at agreeing on a suitable date to switch off analogue Tv transmission, failed to take off after fresh disagreements arose between the two parties. Cofek yesterday snubbed a meeting between it and CCK citing involvement of outside parties contrary to court orders. In a ruling on January 11, High Court judge Isaac Lenaola directed the CCK and the consumer lobby group to negotiate on an agreeable new date, saying the initial December 31 date was untimely and improper. CCK is in support of involving all industry stakeholders like broadcasters, government, other consumer lobby groups,the Digital secretariat ans vendors in the new date deliberations. However, Cofek said it should be the only party to negotiate with CCK since it was the only one that sought legal action. http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1342:cckcofek-digital-tv-talks-fail-to-take-off&catid=1:latest-news
So I am to understand that COFEK was not representing consumers and stakeholders but itself? Why would it seek to block out broadcasters, vendors etc? Exactly whose interests are they protecting? On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com>wrote:
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Negotiations between Communications Commission of Kenya and Consumer Federation, aimed at agreeing on a suitable date to switch off analogue Tv transmission, failed to take off after fresh disagreements arose between the two parties. Cofek yesterday snubbed a meeting between it and CCK citing involvement of outside parties contrary to court orders. In a ruling on January 11, High Court judge Isaac Lenaola directed the CCK and the consumer lobby group to negotiate on an agreeable new date, saying the initial December 31 date was untimely and improper.
CCK is in support of involving all industry stakeholders like broadcasters, government, other consumer lobby groups,the Digital secretariat ans vendors in the new date deliberations. However, Cofek said it should be the only party to negotiate with CCK since it was the only one that sought legal action.
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On 1 February 2013 19:26, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
So I am to understand that COFEK was not representing consumers and stakeholders but itself? Why would it seek to block out broadcasters, vendors etc? Exactly whose interests are they protecting?
Looks like to them, negotiation is unidirectional. It is what they say, think, or believe even if it is against the basic common sense. They seem to be grandiosely intoxicated with a court direction at the expense of reason. They should just understand that digital migration is bigger than, and beyond them. The sooner they realise this, the better for their own sanity. --James
Why is everyone trying to rebuke COFEK for their stand? Don't we all know and verily agree that it was only COFEK who went to court in the interests of the consumers who couldn't afford the Set Tob Boxes? COFEK's other argument was that the switch off/over was untimely as it's the electioneering period That "CCK is in support of involving all industry stakeholders like broadcasters, government, other consumer lobby groups,the Digital secretariat and vendors" is blatantly wrong! None of those went to court to stop the switch-off Analogue Brodcasting (which was starting with NBI anyway) as they were ALL READY for the switch-over. Kenyans, (and now listers) with their known selective amnesia are now calling upon COFEK to involve "stakeholders". These stakeholders already supported the switchover. They did not raise any finger when this was being effected. We should try and live outside our selective amnesia! Kudos, COFEK - you are the only entity entitled to negotiate with CCK! On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
So I am to understand that COFEK was not representing consumers and stakeholders but itself? Why would it seek to block out broadcasters, vendors etc? Exactly whose interests are they protecting?
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com>wrote:
* * *
Negotiations between Communications Commission of Kenya and Consumer Federation, aimed at agreeing on a suitable date to switch off analogue Tv transmission, failed to take off after fresh disagreements arose between the two parties. Cofek yesterday snubbed a meeting between it and CCK citing involvement of outside parties contrary to court orders. In a ruling on January 11, High Court judge Isaac Lenaola directed the CCK and the consumer lobby group to negotiate on an agreeable new date, saying the initial December 31 date was untimely and improper.
CCK is in support of involving all industry stakeholders like broadcasters, government, other consumer lobby groups,the Digital secretariat ans vendors in the new date deliberations. However, Cofek said it should be the only party to negotiate with CCK since it was the only one that sought legal action.
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Washington, We are employed by the public. We spend public resource to deliver services. We are accountable to the public. We therefore must involve the public in all we do and this is clear in our constitution. The courts can sort this out. Ndemo.
Why is everyone trying to rebuke COFEK for their stand? Don't we all know and verily agree that it was only COFEK who went to court in the interests of the consumers who couldn't afford the Set Tob Boxes? COFEK's other argument was that the switch off/over was untimely as it's the electioneering period
That "CCK is in support of involving all industry stakeholders like broadcasters, government, other consumer lobby groups,the Digital secretariat and vendors" is blatantly wrong! None of those went to court to stop the switch-off Analogue Brodcasting (which was starting with NBI anyway) as they were ALL READY for the switch-over.
Kenyans, (and now listers) with their known selective amnesia are now calling upon COFEK to involve "stakeholders". These stakeholders already supported the switchover. They did not raise any finger when this was being effected.
We should try and live outside our selective amnesia!
Kudos, COFEK - you are the only entity entitled to negotiate with CCK!
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
So I am to understand that COFEK was not representing consumers and stakeholders but itself? Why would it seek to block out broadcasters, vendors etc? Exactly whose interests are they protecting?
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com>wrote:
* * *
Negotiations between Communications Commission of Kenya and Consumer Federation, aimed at agreeing on a suitable date to switch off analogue Tv transmission, failed to take off after fresh disagreements arose between the two parties. Cofek yesterday snubbed a meeting between it and CCK citing involvement of outside parties contrary to court orders. In a ruling on January 11, High Court judge Isaac Lenaola directed the CCK and the consumer lobby group to negotiate on an agreeable new date, saying the initial December 31 date was untimely and improper.
CCK is in support of involving all industry stakeholders like broadcasters, government, other consumer lobby groups,the Digital secretariat ans vendors in the new date deliberations. However, Cofek said it should be the only party to negotiate with CCK since it was the only one that sought legal action.
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Dkt., In the aforegoing context, COFEK == Public. It's the public's mouthpiece/defender. On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 2:41 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Washington, We are employed by the public. We spend public resource to deliver services. We are accountable to the public. We therefore must involve the public in all we do and this is clear in our constitution. The courts can sort this out.
Ndemo.
Why is everyone trying to rebuke COFEK for their stand? Don't we all know and verily agree that it was only COFEK who went to court in the interests of the consumers who couldn't afford the Set Tob Boxes? COFEK's other argument was that the switch off/over was untimely as it's the electioneering period
That "CCK is in support of involving all industry stakeholders like broadcasters, government, other consumer lobby groups,the Digital secretariat and vendors" is blatantly wrong! None of those went to court to stop the switch-off Analogue Brodcasting (which was starting with NBI anyway) as they were ALL READY for the switch-over.
Kenyans, (and now listers) with their known selective amnesia are now calling upon COFEK to involve "stakeholders". These stakeholders already supported the switchover. They did not raise any finger when this was being effected.
We should try and live outside our selective amnesia!
Kudos, COFEK - you are the only entity entitled to negotiate with CCK!
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
So I am to understand that COFEK was not representing consumers and stakeholders but itself? Why would it seek to block out broadcasters, vendors etc? Exactly whose interests are they protecting?
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com>wrote:
* * *
Negotiations between Communications Commission of Kenya and Consumer Federation, aimed at agreeing on a suitable date to switch off analogue Tv transmission, failed to take off after fresh disagreements arose between the two parties. Cofek yesterday snubbed a meeting between it and CCK citing involvement of outside parties contrary to court orders. In a ruling on January 11, High Court judge Isaac Lenaola directed the CCK and the consumer lobby group to negotiate on an agreeable new date, saying the initial December 31 date was untimely and improper.
CCK is in support of involving all industry stakeholders like broadcasters, government, other consumer lobby groups,the Digital secretariat ans vendors in the new date deliberations. However, Cofek said it should be the only party to negotiate with CCK since it was the only one that sought legal action.
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Self appointed people's watchman is not necessarily inclusive! On 04/02/2013, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Dkt.,
In the aforegoing context, COFEK == Public. It's the public's mouthpiece/defender.
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 2:41 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Washington, We are employed by the public. We spend public resource to deliver services. We are accountable to the public. We therefore must involve the public in all we do and this is clear in our constitution. The courts can sort this out.
Ndemo.
Why is everyone trying to rebuke COFEK for their stand? Don't we all know and verily agree that it was only COFEK who went to court in the interests of the consumers who couldn't afford the Set Tob Boxes? COFEK's other argument was that the switch off/over was untimely as it's the electioneering period
That "CCK is in support of involving all industry stakeholders like broadcasters, government, other consumer lobby groups,the Digital secretariat and vendors" is blatantly wrong! None of those went to court to stop the switch-off Analogue Brodcasting (which was starting with NBI anyway) as they were ALL READY for the switch-over.
Kenyans, (and now listers) with their known selective amnesia are now calling upon COFEK to involve "stakeholders". These stakeholders already supported the switchover. They did not raise any finger when this was being effected.
We should try and live outside our selective amnesia!
Kudos, COFEK - you are the only entity entitled to negotiate with CCK!
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
So I am to understand that COFEK was not representing consumers and stakeholders but itself? Why would it seek to block out broadcasters, vendors etc? Exactly whose interests are they protecting?
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com>wrote:
* * *
Negotiations between Communications Commission of Kenya and Consumer Federation, aimed at agreeing on a suitable date to switch off analogue Tv transmission, failed to take off after fresh disagreements arose between the two parties. Cofek yesterday snubbed a meeting between it and CCK citing involvement of outside parties contrary to court orders. In a ruling on January 11, High Court judge Isaac Lenaola directed the CCK and the consumer lobby group to negotiate on an agreeable new date, saying the initial December 31 date was untimely and improper.
CCK is in support of involving all industry stakeholders like broadcasters, government, other consumer lobby groups,the Digital secretariat ans vendors in the new date deliberations. However, Cofek said it should be the only party to negotiate with CCK since it was the only one that sought legal action.
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@Kivuva, There is a Consumer Protection Bill 2011 (successor to Consumer Protection Bill 2007). Could you please tell us who is supposed oversee the actualization of this bill, if not organizations like COFEK? ** On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Self appointed people's watchman is not necessarily inclusive!
Dkt.,
In the aforegoing context, COFEK == Public. It's the public's mouthpiece/defender.
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 2:41 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Washington, We are employed by the public. We spend public resource to deliver services. We are accountable to the public. We therefore must involve the public in all we do and this is clear in our constitution. The courts can sort this out.
Ndemo.
Why is everyone trying to rebuke COFEK for their stand? Don't we all know and verily agree that it was only COFEK who went to court in the interests of the consumers who couldn't afford the Set Tob Boxes? COFEK's other argument was that the switch off/over was untimely as it's the electioneering period
That "CCK is in support of involving all industry stakeholders like broadcasters, government, other consumer lobby groups,the Digital secretariat and vendors" is blatantly wrong! None of those went to court to stop the switch-off Analogue Brodcasting (which was starting with NBI anyway) as they were ALL READY for the switch-over.
Kenyans, (and now listers) with their known selective amnesia are now calling upon COFEK to involve "stakeholders". These stakeholders already supported the switchover. They did not raise any finger when this was being effected.
We should try and live outside our selective amnesia!
Kudos, COFEK - you are the only entity entitled to negotiate with CCK!
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
So I am to understand that COFEK was not representing consumers and stakeholders but itself? Why would it seek to block out broadcasters, vendors etc? Exactly whose interests are they protecting?
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com>wrote:
* * *
Negotiations between Communications Commission of Kenya and Consumer Federation, aimed at agreeing on a suitable date to switch off analogue Tv transmission, failed to take off after fresh disagreements arose between the two parties. Cofek yesterday snubbed a meeting between it and CCK citing involvement of outside parties contrary to court orders. In a ruling on January 11, High Court judge Isaac Lenaola directed the CCK and the consumer lobby group to negotiate on an agreeable new date, saying the initial December 31 date was untimely and improper.
CCK is in support of involving all industry stakeholders like broadcasters, government, other consumer lobby groups,the Digital secretariat ans vendors in the new date deliberations. However, Cofek said it should be the only party to negotiate with CCK since it was the only one that sought legal action.
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Correcting myself: The bill was assented to by the President on Dec 13, 2012 and is now actually *The Consumer Potection Act, 2012*. It is actually now The Consumer Protection Act, 2012 assented to on December 13 On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
@Kivuva,
There is a Consumer Protection Bill 2011 (successor to Consumer Protection Bill 2007). Could you please tell us who is supposed oversee the actualization of this bill, if not organizations like COFEK?
** On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com>wrote:
Self appointed people's watchman is not necessarily inclusive!
Dkt.,
In the aforegoing context, COFEK == Public. It's the public's mouthpiece/defender.
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 2:41 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Washington, We are employed by the public. We spend public resource to deliver services. We are accountable to the public. We therefore must involve the public in all we do and this is clear in our constitution. The courts can sort this out.
Ndemo.
Why is everyone trying to rebuke COFEK for their stand? Don't we all know and verily agree that it was only COFEK who went to court in the interests of the consumers who couldn't afford the Set Tob Boxes? COFEK's other argument was that the switch off/over was untimely as it's the electioneering period
That "CCK is in support of involving all industry stakeholders like broadcasters, government, other consumer lobby groups,the Digital secretariat and vendors" is blatantly wrong! None of those went to court to stop the switch-off Analogue Brodcasting (which was starting with NBI anyway) as they were ALL READY for the switch-over.
Kenyans, (and now listers) with their known selective amnesia are now calling upon COFEK to involve "stakeholders". These stakeholders already supported the switchover. They did not raise any finger when this was being effected.
We should try and live outside our selective amnesia!
Kudos, COFEK - you are the only entity entitled to negotiate with CCK!
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
So I am to understand that COFEK was not representing consumers and stakeholders but itself? Why would it seek to block out broadcasters, vendors etc? Exactly whose interests are they protecting?
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com>wrote:
> * > * > * > > Negotiations between Communications Commission of Kenya and Consumer > Federation, aimed at agreeing on a suitable date to switch off > analogue > Tv > transmission, failed to take off after fresh disagreements arose > between > the two parties. > Cofek yesterday snubbed a meeting between it and CCK citing > involvement > of outside parties contrary to court orders. In a ruling on January > 11, > High Court judge Isaac Lenaola directed the CCK and the consumer > lobby > group to negotiate on an agreeable new date, saying the initial > December 31 > date was untimely and improper. > > CCK is in support of involving all industry stakeholders like > broadcasters, government, other consumer lobby groups,the Digital > secretariat ans vendors in the new date deliberations. However, Cofek > said > it should be the only party to negotiate with CCK since it was the > only > one > that sought legal action. > > >
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Hi, Moses took the Israelite out of slavery in Egypt but he only saw the promised land from afar, the struggles of your parents was to see you better off than they where. Cofek has taken us out of Egypt it is time they accepted that they would be lost in Canaan. Regards PS. I have the memory of an elephant and an appreciation for Google. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Stephen Mutoro <stephen@cofek.co.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013, 10:13 Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK,Cofek digital TV talks fail to take off Why is everyone trying to rebuke COFEK for their stand? Don't we all know and verily agree that it was only COFEK who went to court in the interests of the consumers who couldn't afford the Set Tob Boxes? COFEK's other argument was that the switch off/over was untimely as it's the electioneering period That "CCK is in support of involving all industry stakeholders like broadcasters, government, other consumer lobby groups,the Digital secretariat and vendors" is blatantly wrong! None of those went to court to stop the switch-off Analogue Brodcasting (which was starting with NBI anyway) as they were ALL READY for the switch-over. Kenyans, (and now listers) with their known selective amnesia are now calling upon COFEK to involve "stakeholders". These stakeholders already supported the switchover. They did not raise any finger when this was being effected. We should try and live outside our selective amnesia! Kudos, COFEK - you are the only entity entitled to negotiate with CCK! On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote: So I am to understand that COFEK was not representing consumers and stakeholders but itself? Why would it seek to block out broadcasters, vendors etc?
Exactly whose interests are they protecting?
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> wrote:
Negotiations between Communications Commission of Kenya and Consumer Federation, aimed at agreeing on a suitable date to switch off analogue Tv transmission, failed to take off after fresh disagreements arose between the two parties. Cofek yesterday snubbed a meeting between it and CCK citing involvement of outside parties contrary to court orders. In a ruling on January 11, High Court judge Isaac Lenaola directed the CCK and the consumer lobby group to negotiate on an agreeable new date, saying the initial December 31 date was untimely and improper.
CCK is in support of involving all industry stakeholders like broadcasters, government, other consumer lobby groups,the Digital secretariat ans vendors in the new date deliberations. However, Cofek said it should be the only party to negotiate with CCK since it was the only one that sought legal action.
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Hi, The Ministry seems to have acquired a set of the proverbial "balls" (need to be gender sensitive) and heeded my advice that the we where creating a monster that will end up needing slaying at some time and the time seems to be now. Information PS Bitange Ndemo, who has been pushing for immediate migration and sits on the CCK board, has already ruled out the possibility of negotiating with Cofek alone. "The constitution dictates that we consult with stakeholders. We cannot therefore have talks with Cofek which has non elected officials. We shall however have consultations with all stakeholders. If we continue to give latitude to Cofek, we shall one time regret because in my view they will take up on everything," Ndemo wrote on The Kenya ICT Action Network platform on January 13. The standstill might see the negotiation window close, which will leave the fate of Tv consumers to the court". -- extract from your link Seems they are out to take maximum advantage of a dissolved parliament and the fact that all eyes are currently on the election, the shutting down of Citizen Tv transmitters being another sign of things to haven over the next 3 weeks. Dr. Ndemo, I believe the fact that there are 2 digital signal transmitters already operational that the analog frequency holders are in contravention of some law therefore CCK should proceed to turn off their transmitters. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, 1 February 2013, 19:21 Subject: [kictanet] CCK,Cofek digital TV talks fail to take off Negotiations between Communications Commission of Kenya and Consumer Federation, aimed at agreeing on a suitable date to switch off analogue Tv transmission, failed to take off after fresh disagreements arose between the two parties. Cofek yesterday snubbed a meeting between it and CCK citing involvement of outside parties contrary to court orders. In a ruling on January 11, High Court judge Isaac Lenaola directed the CCK and the consumer lobby group to negotiate on an agreeable new date, saying the initial December 31 date was untimely and improper. CCK is in support of involving all industry stakeholders like broadcasters, government, other consumer lobby groups,the Digital secretariat ans vendors in the new date deliberations. However, Cofek said it should be the only party to negotiate with CCK since it was the only one that sought legal action. http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1342:cckcofek-digital-tv-talks-fail-to-take-off&catid=1:latest-news _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40yahoo.co.... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Dear Robert, I see you senselessly call Cofek a "monster" thanks >>>(The Ministry seems to have acquired a set of the proverbial "balls" (need to be gender sensitive) and heeded my advice that the we where creating a monster that will end up needing slaying at some time and the time seems to be now).<<< We will be happy to defend ourselves if you offered us the right of reply. We are a very patient lot and we accept all manner of throwing mud (punches) at us but some are really too provocative to meet our restraint thresholds. When you sought our (Cofek read "monster's") intervention, on June 11, for your application for Post Master General position whose advertisement you called "skewed" as per your email below (which we dutifully did as per a letter we can't circulate here - were we still monsters? Were you even a Cofek member? Did you even bother to check whether or not we "represent" you as I've seen most listers query out of ignorance of the provisions of Societies Act Cap 108. Or are we only "monsters" when your interests and ours do not converge? I would like to caution you and other loud "egg sellers", like yourself, that ought to refrain from starting unnecessary "fights in the market place". Is it not double-speak? Otherwise we welcome being scrutinized, both as a Federation and individual elected officials (elected by the bonafide membership). Kind regards, Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke -----Original Message----- From: Robert Yawe [mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 5:25 PM To: hotline@cofek.co.ke Subject: Consumer Federation of Kenya: Post Master general appointment This is an enquiry e-mail via http://www.cofek.co.ke/ from: Robert Yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Hi, As an applicant in the recently advertised post of Post Master General for the Postal Corporation of Kenya I would like to bring to your attention a skewing of the requirements to favour the acting PMG. See the advisement on http://www.posta.co.ke/JobDetails.asp?ID=48&Title=Postmaster%20General%20(Chief%20Executive%20Officer) A note the following line for the words "postal optimization" an expertise that can only be acquired as an employee of PCK. Have a proven track record of innovation, transformation and postal optimization, combined with an appreciation of the intrinsic importance of technology in solution development and design. Regards ________________________________ From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> To: smutoro@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK,Cofek digital TV talks fail to take off Hi, The Ministry seems to have acquired a set of the proverbial "balls" (need to be gender sensitive) and heeded my advice that the we where creating a monster that will end up needing slaying at some time and the time seems to be now. Information PS Bitange Ndemo, who has been pushing for immediate migration and sits on the CCK board, has already ruled out the possibility of negotiating with Cofek alone. "The constitution dictates that we consult with stakeholders. We cannot therefore have talks with Cofek which has non elected officials. We shall however have consultations with all stakeholders. If we continue to give latitude to Cofek, we shall one time regret because in my view they will take up on everything," Ndemo wrote on The Kenya ICT Action Network platform on January 13. The standstill might see the negotiation window close, which will leave the fate of Tv consumers to the court". -- extract from your link Seems they are out to take maximum advantage of a dissolved parliament and the fact that all eyes are currently on the election, the shutting down of Citizen Tv transmitters being another sign of things to haven over the next 3 weeks. Dr. Ndemo, I believe the fact that there are 2 digital signal transmitters already operational that the analog frequency holders are in contravention of some law therefore CCK should proceed to turn off their transmitters. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, 1 February 2013, 19:21 Subject: [kictanet] CCK,Cofek digital TV talks fail to take off Negotiations between Communications Commission of Kenya and Consumer Federation, aimed at agreeing on a suitable date to switch off analogue Tv transmission, failed to take off after fresh disagreements arose between the two parties. Cofek yesterday snubbed a meeting between it and CCK citing involvement of outside parties contrary to court orders. In a ruling on January 11, High Court judge Isaac Lenaola directed the CCK and the consumer lobby group to negotiate on an agreeable new date, saying the initial December 31 date was untimely and improper. CCK is in support of involving all industry stakeholders like broadcasters, government, other consumer lobby groups,the Digital secretariat ans vendors in the new date deliberations. However, Cofek said it should be the only party to negotiate with CCK since it was the only one that sought legal action. http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1342:cckcofek-digital-tv-talks-fail-to-take-off&catid=1:latest-news _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40yahoo.co.... 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Mutoro, I believe the rule of the Masaai Moran is that he who inflicts the first stab gets to eat the heart but it does not imply that he decides what the others may eat or eat the entire kill by themselves. You have landed the first blow and have been presented with the heart, you need to know when to step aside and let the others partake, and we say that our traditions where retrogressive and primitive. Mutoro, from your vitriolic outburst you are implying that if I at one time helped Dr. Willy Mutunga when we where in nursery to climb onto the swing I am therefore free to commit any crime I please. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: stephen Mutoro <smutoro@yahoo.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: "kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; "hotline@cofek.co.ke" <hotline@cofek.co.ke> Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013, 15:00 Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK,Cofek digital TV talks fail to take off - Robert Yawe's Double-Speak Dear Robert, I see you senselessly call Cofek a "monster" thanks >>>(The Ministry seems to have acquired a set of the proverbial "balls" (need to be gender sensitive) and heeded my advice that the we where creating a monster that will end up needing slaying at some time and the time seems to be now).<<< We will be happy to defend ourselves if you offered us the right of reply. We are a very patient lot and we accept all manner of throwing mud (punches) at us but some are really too provocative to meet our restraint thresholds. When you sought our (Cofek read "monster's") intervention, on June 11, for your application for Post Master General position whose advertisement you called "skewed" as per your email below (which we dutifully did as per a letter we can't circulate here - were we still monsters? Were you even a Cofek member? Did you even bother to check whether or not we "represent" you as I've seen most listers query out of ignorance of the provisions of Societies Act Cap 108. Or are we only "monsters" when your interests and ours do not converge? I would like to caution you and other loud "egg sellers", like yourself, that ought to refrain from starting unnecessary "fights in the market place". Is it not double-speak? Otherwise we welcome being scrutinized, both as a Federation and individual elected officials (elected by the bonafide membership). Kind regards, Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke -----Original Message----- From: Robert Yawe [mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 5:25 PM To: hotline@cofek.co.ke Subject: Consumer Federation of Kenya: Post Master general appointment This is an enquiry e-mail via http://www.cofek.co.ke/ from: Robert Yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Hi, As an applicant in the recently advertised post of Post Master General for the Postal Corporation of Kenya I would like to bring to your attention a skewing of the requirements to favour the acting PMG. See the advisement on http://www.posta.co.ke/JobDetails.asp?ID=48&Title=Postmaster%20General%20(Chief%20Executive%20Officer) A note the following line for the words "postal optimization" an expertise that can only be acquired as an employee of PCK. Have a proven track record of innovation, transformation and postal optimization, combined with an appreciation of the intrinsic importance of technology in solution development and design. Regards ________________________________ From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> To: smutoro@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK,Cofek digital TV talks fail to take off Hi, The Ministry seems to have acquired a set of the proverbial "balls" (need to be gender sensitive) and heeded my advice that the we where creating a monster that will end up needing slaying at some time and the time seems to be now. Information PS Bitange Ndemo, who has been pushing for immediate migration and sits on the CCK board, has already ruled out the possibility of negotiating with Cofek alone. "The constitution dictates that we consult with stakeholders. We cannot therefore have talks with Cofek which has non elected officials. We shall however have consultations with all stakeholders. If we continue to give latitude to Cofek, we shall one time regret because in my view they will take up on everything," Ndemo wrote on The Kenya ICT Action Network platform on January 13. The standstill might see the negotiation window close, which will leave the fate of Tv consumers to the court". -- extract from your link Seems they are out to take maximum advantage of a dissolved parliament and the fact that all eyes are currently on the election, the shutting down of Citizen Tv transmitters being another sign of things to haven over the next 3 weeks. Dr. Ndemo, I believe the fact that there are 2 digital signal transmitters already operational that the analog frequency holders are in contravention of some law therefore CCK should proceed to turn off their transmitters. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, 1 February 2013, 19:21 Subject: [kictanet] CCK,Cofek digital TV talks fail to take off Negotiations between Communications Commission of Kenya and Consumer Federation, aimed at agreeing on a suitable date to switch off analogue Tv transmission, failed to take off after fresh disagreements arose between the two parties. Cofek yesterday snubbed a meeting between it and CCK citing involvement of outside parties contrary to court orders. In a ruling on January 11, High Court judge Isaac Lenaola directed the CCK and the consumer lobby group to negotiate on an agreeable new date, saying the initial December 31 date was untimely and improper. CCK is in support of involving all industry stakeholders like broadcasters, government, other consumer lobby groups,the Digital secretariat ans vendors in the new date deliberations. However, Cofek said it should be the only party to negotiate with CCK since it was the only one that sought legal action. http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1342:cckcofek-digital-tv-talks-fail-to-take-off&catid=1:latest-news _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40yahoo.co.... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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Mr. Mutoro, How does one become a member of COFEK? Pamela From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+pamela=cardiacimplants.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of stephen Mutoro Sent: 04 February 2013 03:00 PM To: pamela@cardiacimplants.com Cc: hotline@cofek.co.ke; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK, Cofek digital TV talks fail to take off - Robert Yawe's Double-Speak Dear Robert, I see you senselessly call Cofek a "monster" thanks >>>(The Ministry seems to have acquired a set of the proverbial "balls" (need to be gender sensitive) and heeded my advice that the we where creating a monster that will end up needing slaying at some time and the time seems to be now).<<< We will be happy to defend ourselves if you offered us the right of reply. We are a very patient lot and we accept all manner of throwing mud (punches) at us but some are really too provocative to meet our restraint thresholds. When you sought our (Cofek read "monster's") intervention, on June 11, for your application for Post Master General position whose advertisement you called "skewed" as per your email below (which we dutifully did as per a letter we can't circulate here - were we still monsters? Were you even a Cofek member? Did you even bother to check whether or not we "represent" you as I've seen most listers query out of ignorance of the provisions of Societies Act Cap 108. Or are we only "monsters" when your interests and ours do not converge? I would like to caution you and other loud "egg sellers", like yourself, that ought to refrain from starting unnecessary "fights in the market place". Is it not double-speak? Otherwise we welcome being scrutinized, both as a Federation and individual elected officials (elected by the bonafide membership). Kind regards, Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke <http://www.cofek.co.ke/> -----Original Message----- From: Robert Yawe [mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 5:25 PM To: hotline@cofek.co.ke Subject: Consumer Federation of Kenya: Post Master general appointment This is an enquiry e-mail via http://www.cofek.co.ke/ from: Robert Yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Hi, As an applicant in the recently advertised post of Post Master General for the Postal Corporation of Kenya I would like to bring to your attention a skewing of the requirements to favour the acting PMG. See the advisement on http://www.posta.co.ke/JobDetails.asp?ID=48 <http://www.posta.co.ke/JobDetails.asp?ID=48&Title=Postmaster%20General%20(C hief%20Executive%20Officer)> &Title=Postmaster%20General%20(Chief%20Executive%20Officer) A note the following line for the words "postal optimization" an expertise that can only be acquired as an employee of PCK. Have a proven track record of innovation, transformation and postal optimization, combined with an appreciation of the intrinsic importance of technology in solution development and design. Regards _____ From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> To: smutoro@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK,Cofek digital TV talks fail to take off Hi, The Ministry seems to have acquired a set of the proverbial "balls" (need to be gender sensitive) and heeded my advice that the we where creating a monster that will end up needing slaying at some time and the time seems to be now. Information PS Bitange Ndemo, who has been pushing for immediate migration and sits on the CCK board, has already ruled out the possibility of negotiating with Cofek alone. "The constitution dictates that we consult with stakeholders. We cannot therefore have talks with Cofek which has non elected officials. We shall however have consultations with all stakeholders. If we continue to give latitude to Cofek, we shall one time regret because in my view they will take up on everything," Ndemo wrote on The Kenya ICT Action Network platform on January 13. The standstill might see the negotiation window close, which will leave the fate of Tv consumers to the court". -- extract from your link Seems they are out to take maximum advantage of a dissolved parliament and the fact that all eyes are currently on the election, the shutting down of Citizen Tv transmitters being another sign of things to haven over the next 3 weeks. Dr. Ndemo, I believe the fact that there are 2 digital signal transmitters already operational that the analog frequency holders are in contravention of some law therefore CCK should proceed to turn off their transmitters. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 _____ From: Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, 1 February 2013, 19:21 Subject: [kictanet] CCK,Cofek digital TV talks fail to take off Negotiations between Communications Commission of Kenya and Consumer Federation, aimed at agreeing on a suitable date to switch off analogue Tv transmission, failed to take off after fresh disagreements arose between the two parties. Cofek yesterday snubbed a meeting between it and CCK citing involvement of outside parties contrary to court orders. In a ruling on January 11, High Court judge Isaac Lenaola directed the CCK and the consumer lobby group to negotiate on an agreeable new date, saying the initial December 31 date was untimely and improper. CCK is in support of involving all industry stakeholders like broadcasters, government, other consumer lobby groups,the Digital secretariat ans vendors in the new date deliberations. However, Cofek said it should be the only party to negotiate with CCK since it was the only one that sought legal action. http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php?option=com_content <http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1342:cc kcofek-digital-tv-talks-fail-to-take-off&catid=1:latest-news> &view=article&id=1342:cckcofek-digital-tv-talks-fail-to-take-off&catid=1:lat est-news _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40yahoo.co. uk The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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Listers, I believe it is well in order for all stakeholders to attend this meeting. Much appreciated that COFEK got the court order but if it is in public interest, I would think Mutoro should be happy to have a full house of all stakeholders to discuss this matter. Over to you Mutoro- why not attend the meeting and engage in a meaningful discussion with the stakeholders? Gilda Odera ----- Original Message ----- From: robert yawe To: godera@skyweb.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK,Cofek digital TV talks fail to take off Hi, The Ministry seems to have acquired a set of the proverbial "balls" (need to be gender sensitive) and heeded my advice that the we where creating a monster that will end up needing slaying at some time and the time seems to be now. Information PS Bitange Ndemo, who has been pushing for immediate migration and sits on the CCK board, has already ruled out the possibility of negotiating with Cofek alone. "The constitution dictates that we consult with stakeholders. We cannot therefore have talks with Cofek which has non elected officials. We shall however have consultations with all stakeholders. If we continue to give latitude to Cofek, we shall one time regret because in my view they will take up on everything," Ndemo wrote on The Kenya ICT Action Network platform on January 13. The standstill might see the negotiation window close, which will leave the fate of Tv consumers to the court". -- extract from your link Seems they are out to take maximum advantage of a dissolved parliament and the fact that all eyes are currently on the election, the shutting down of Citizen Tv transmitters being another sign of things to haven over the next 3 weeks. Dr. Ndemo, I believe the fact that there are 2 digital signal transmitters already operational that the analog frequency holders are in contravention of some law therefore CCK should proceed to turn off their transmitters. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, 1 February 2013, 19:21 Subject: [kictanet] CCK,Cofek digital TV talks fail to take off Negotiations between Communications Commission of Kenya and Consumer Federation, aimed at agreeing on a suitable date to switch off analogue Tv transmission, failed to take off after fresh disagreements arose between the two parties. Cofek yesterday snubbed a meeting between it and CCK citing involvement of outside parties contrary to court orders. In a ruling on January 11, High Court judge Isaac Lenaola directed the CCK and the consumer lobby group to negotiate on an agreeable new date, saying the initial December 31 date was untimely and improper. CCK is in support of involving all industry stakeholders like broadcasters, government, other consumer lobby groups,the Digital secretariat ans vendors in the new date deliberations. However, Cofek said it should be the only party to negotiate with CCK since it was the only one that sought legal action. http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1342:cckcofek-digital-tv-talks-fail-to-take-off&catid=1:latest-news _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40yahoo.co.... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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To: godera@skyweb.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK,Cofek digital TV talks fail to take off
Hi,
The Ministry seems to have acquired a set of the proverbial "balls" (need to be gender sensitive) and heeded my advice that the we where creating a monster
Thanks Gilda: We are happy to discuss with the stakeholders on as many other issues. But please take a moment to watch this link with Justice Lenaola's own words - http://www.ntv.co.ke/news2/topheadlines/court-temporarily-stops-digital-migr... There is one specific meeting we believe that ought not to be mixed with other business or stakeholders. We still await CCK to give us a date for this particular meeting. Forget naysayers - we never went to Court to stop digital migration but temporarily delay analogue for the status of preparedness and other reasons we gave in Court. ________________________________ From: Gilda Odera <godera@skyweb.co.ke> To: smutoro@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK,Cofek digital TV talks fail to take off Listers, I believe it is well in order for all stakeholders to attend this meeting. Much appreciated that COFEK got the court order but if it is in public interest, I would think Mutoro should be happy to have a full house of all stakeholders to discuss this matter. Over to you Mutoro- why not attend the meeting and engage in a meaningful discussion with the stakeholders? Gilda Odera ----- Original Message ----- From: robert yawe that will end up needing slaying at some time and the time seems to be now.
Information PS Bitange Ndemo, who has been pushing for immediate migration and sits on the CCK board, has already ruled out the possibility of negotiating with Cofek alone.
"The constitution dictates that we consult with stakeholders. We cannot therefore have talks with Cofek which has non elected officials. We shall however have consultations with all stakeholders. If we continue to give latitude to Cofek, we shall one time regret because in my view they will take up on everything," Ndemo wrote on The Kenya ICT Action Network platform on January 13. The standstill might see the negotiation window close, which will leave the fate of Tv consumers to the court".
-- extract from your link
Seems they are out to take maximum advantage of a dissolved parliament and the fact that all eyes are currently on the election, the shutting down of Citizen Tv transmitters being another sign of things to haven over the next 3 weeks.
Dr. Ndemo, I believe the fact that there are 2 digital signal transmitters already operational that the analog frequency holders are in contravention of some law therefore CCK should proceed to turn off their transmitters.
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, 1 February 2013, 19:21 Subject: [kictanet] CCK,Cofek digital TV talks fail to take off
Negotiations between Communications Commission of Kenya and Consumer Federation, aimed at agreeing on a suitable date to switch off analogue Tv transmission, failed to take off after fresh disagreements arose between the two parties. Cofek yesterday snubbed a meeting between it and CCK citing involvement of outside parties contrary to court orders. In a ruling on January 11, High Court judge Isaac Lenaola directed the CCK and the consumer lobby group to negotiate on an agreeable new date, saying the initial December 31 date was untimely and improper.
CCK is in support of involving all industry stakeholders like broadcasters, government, other consumer lobby groups,the Digital secretariat ans vendors in the new date deliberations. However, Cofek said it should be the only party to negotiate with CCK since it was the only one that sought legal action.
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participants (10)
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bitange＠jambo.co.ke -
Gilda Odera -
Grace Githaiga -
James Kariuki -
Kivuva -
Mark Mwangi -
Odhiambo Washington -
Pamela -
robert yawe -
stephen Mutoro