Day 4:Ensuring Effective Implementation of the Laptop Project - The Key Variables :Day 4: Maintenance & Disposal (issues of support, environmental concerns, etc)
Lister's, Many thanks to all those who have contributed to todays discussion, the thread is still open, day four will focus on hardware: What Maintenance & Disposal issues should the government take into account before the project is implemented? (issues of support, environmental concerns, etc) -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/
Again, not being sure of how we shall dispose off the millions of laptops after the expiry of their lifespan, but I seem to read how Europe does it. Read on @ http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/treasure-from-the-trash-urban-m... or http://tinyurl.com/nqokosf walu. nb: there was a time Safaricom buzzed about putting together a facility for it 25million+ customers to dump their old phones. Maybe if they have such a facility, it could be equipped/expanded to deal with laptops...just thinking randomly... ________________________________ From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:14 AM Subject: [kictanet] Day 4:Ensuring Effective Implementation of the Laptop Project - The Key Variables :Day 4: Maintenance & Disposal (issues of support, environmental concerns, etc) Lister's, Many thanks to all those who have contributed to todays discussion, the thread is still open, day four will focus on hardware: What Maintenance & Disposal issues should the government take into account before the project is implemented? (issues of support, environmental concerns, etc) -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
+ How NOT to do it @ http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/the-children-of-sodom-and-gomorrah... http://tinyurl.com/prys5mk If we dont think through the disposal issue, we may suffocate under the digital refuse. And unlike Europe, no one will give us a dumping ground abroad. walu ________________________________ From: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 4:Ensuring Effective Implementation of the Laptop Project - The Key Variables :Day 4: Maintenance & Disposal (issues of support, environmental concerns, etc) Again, not being sure of how we shall dispose off the millions of laptops after the expiry of their lifespan, but I seem to read how Europe does it. Read on @ http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/treasure-from-the-trash-urban-m... or http://tinyurl.com/nqokosf walu. nb: there was a time Safaricom buzzed about putting together a facility for it 25million+ customers to dump their old phones. Maybe if they have such a facility, it could be equipped/expanded to deal with laptops...just thinking randomly... ________________________________ From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:14 AM Subject: [kictanet] Day 4:Ensuring Effective Implementation of the Laptop Project - The Key Variables :Day 4: Maintenance & Disposal (issues of support, environmental concerns, etc) Lister's, Many thanks to all those who have contributed to todays discussion, the thread is still open, day four will focus on hardware: What Maintenance & Disposal issues should the government take into account before the project is implemented? (issues of support, environmental concerns, etc) -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
@ Walu, last week I attended the CCK Women and ICTs conference and someone by the name Musili in the Q $A session reported that Kenya has the best e-management center in Africa. Clearly this info is not available to to the public. I tweeted and one of the responses from Kwamchetsi read "like they keep it somewhere for it to turn into e-manure?" Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 00:17:14 -0700 From: jwalu@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 4:Ensuring Effective Implementation of the Laptop Project - The Key Variables :Day 4: Maintenance & Disposal (issues of support, environmental concerns, etc) CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com Again, not being sure of how we shall dispose off the millions of laptops after the expiry of their lifespan, but I seem to read how Europe does it. Read on @ http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/treasure-from-the-trash-urban-m... or http://tinyurl.com/nqokosf walu. nb: there was a time Safaricom buzzed about putting together a facility for it 25million+ customers to dump their old phones. Maybe if they have such a facility, it could be equipped/expanded to deal with laptops...just thinking randomly... From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:14 AM Subject: [kictanet] Day 4:Ensuring Effective Implementation of the Laptop Project - The Key Variables :Day 4: Maintenance & Disposal (issues of support, environmental concerns, etc) Lister's, Many thanks to all those who have contributed to todays discussion, the thread is still open, day four will focus on hardware: What Maintenance & Disposal issues should the government take into account before the project is implemented? (issues of support, environmental concerns, etc) -- Barrack O. Otieno+254721325277+254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otienohttp://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ggithaiga%40hotmail.co... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
http://www.weeecentre.com/Kenya%20Situation.html Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2013, 10:17 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 4:Ensuring Effective Implementation of the Laptop Project - The Key Variables :Day 4: Maintenance & Disposal (issues of support, environmental concerns, etc) Again, not being sure of how we shall dispose off the millions of laptops after the expiry of their lifespan, but I seem to read how Europe does it. Read on @ http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/treasure-from-the-trash-urban-m... or http://tinyurl.com/nqokosf walu. nb: there was a time Safaricom buzzed about putting together a facility for it 25million+ customers to dump their old phones. Maybe if they have such a facility, it could be equipped/expanded to deal with laptops...just thinking randomly... ________________________________ From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:14 AM Subject: [kictanet] Day 4:Ensuring Effective Implementation of the Laptop Project - The Key Variables :Day 4: Maintenance & Disposal (issues of support, environmental concerns, etc) Lister's, Many thanks to all those who have contributed to todays discussion, the thread is still open, day four will focus on hardware: What Maintenance & Disposal issues should the government take into account before the project is implemented? (issues of support, environmental concerns, etc) -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40yahoo.co.... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
On disposal (at least to me), the onus should be on the supplier to get rid of the used gadgets. The tender for the supply of such gadgets should include disposal after say 4 years (or after a pre-determined life of the gadgets). Alternatively, there should be a replacement/swapping clauses on the tender documents that those gadgets should be renewed/swapped after X years (some sort of leasing the gadgets for a limited period). Anything shorter than this will leave millions of useless and dangerous (environmentally) gadgets out there. Of course, there can be (small) businesses than can specialise in mining the rare/precious metals (e.g. mercury) from the gadgets, how viable and environmentally sustainable this is needs to be explored. I think there is a business opportunity on the maintenance of the gadgets. I would imagine the implementers of this scheme would need the services of local individuals/companies to support the schools. Having a sort of a helpdesk/servicedesk in one school in a network that can be used for technical support including maintenance for the gadgets would be good. All support and maintenance requests would be dealt within the network where possible (or escalated to a higher office in cases where there is need for replacement or very specialised repairs). On 12 June 2013 23:14, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Lister's,
Many thanks to all those who have contributed to todays discussion, the thread is still open, day four will focus on hardware:
What Maintenance & Disposal issues should the government take into account before the project is implemented? (issues of support, environmental concerns, etc)
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/
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In addition, schools should have IT staff (teachers) with basic troubleshooting skills and able to do minimum repair and maintenance - important for sustainability. eWaste management centres in each "province" would potentially create employment and help dispose the equipments safely. CFSK (computer for schools Kenya) runs an eWaste national centre at embakasi - so we have internal experience on the "nuts and bolts" of doing eWaste - we need to learn from them the Dos and Don'ts. While they recycle plastics locally, precious metals are sold to China and Europe to extract the precious metals. I recall Bwana Ndemo challenging them to find out how this is done by the Chinese and Europeans so this can be done locally. Govt should explore how this can be done locally to generate employment and support innovation. Edith -----Original Message----- From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of James Kariuki Sent: June 13, 2013 9:36 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 4:Ensuring Effective Implementation of the Laptop Project - The Key Variables :Day 4: Maintenance & Disposal (issues of support, environmental concerns, etc) On disposal (at least to me), the onus should be on the supplier to get rid of the used gadgets. The tender for the supply of such gadgets should include disposal after say 4 years (or after a pre-determined life of the gadgets). Alternatively, there should be a replacement/swapping clauses on the tender documents that those gadgets should be renewed/swapped after X years (some sort of leasing the gadgets for a limited period). Anything shorter than this will leave millions of useless and dangerous (environmentally) gadgets out there. Of course, there can be (small) businesses than can specialise in mining the rare/precious metals (e.g. mercury) from the gadgets, how viable and environmentally sustainable this is needs to be explored. I think there is a business opportunity on the maintenance of the gadgets. I would imagine the implementers of this scheme would need the services of local individuals/companies to support the schools. Having a sort of a helpdesk/servicedesk in one school in a network that can be used for technical support including maintenance for the gadgets would be good. All support and maintenance requests would be dealt within the network where possible (or escalated to a higher office in cases where there is need for replacement or very specialised repairs). On 12 June 2013 23:14, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Lister's,
Many thanks to all those who have contributed to todays discussion, the thread is still open, day four will focus on hardware:
What Maintenance & Disposal issues should the government take into account before the project is implemented? (issues of support, environmental concerns, etc)
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/
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Barrack Otieno -
Edith Adera -
Grace Githaiga -
James Kariuki -
robert yawe -
Walubengo J