On line debate Agenda for 2012 Kenya IGF commences tomorrow June 14, 2012
Good morning Listers The Kenyan IGF debate will commence tomorrow and Barrack Otieno will be taking the lead. All your suggestions have been taken on board and even if they do not appear in the main themes, they will be dealt with in the debate. This is the proposed agenda: 1. ITRs, Thursday June 14, 20122. Intermediary liability, Friday June 15, 20123. Technology and violence against women, Monday June 18, 20124. Open data/E-government, Tuesday June 19, 2012· 5. Infrastructure Wednesday, June 20, 20126. Data Protection Bill as well as the Freedom of Information Bill, Thursday June 21, 20127. Winding up, Friday June 22, 2012. As always we look forward to a very healthy debate. RgdsGG
Many thanks GG, looking forwad to interesting discourse as has been in the previous list discussions. Best Regards On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com>wrote:
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/
Dear Barrack and all, In view of the new gTLDs revealed by ICANN, may I suggest that we include new gTLDs on the list of issues for discussion? You will note that out of 1930 applications only 7 are from Africa. -What are the implications? -What strings are controversial/sensitive from a national perspective? Best Alice
Apologies, only 17 from Africa, not 7 Best Alice On 13/06/2012 15:44, Alice Munyua wrote:
Hello Alice, I agree with your sentiments, we will include the topic. Best Regards On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Alice Munyua <alice@apc.org> wrote:
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/
Alice I agree. What is more interesting is that there are only 3 Geographic names. Africa, dotAfrica and Durban. These are real concerns that will need to be addressed. Even more interesting is that the rest are basically South African through DSTV. The implications of cost, national pride etc arise. For example a quick search for Kenya.com brings up Registrant Abstract Holdings International Ltd. Alex Royf The Business Centre Upton, St. Michael (BB) BB11103 Administrative Contact Abstract Holdings International Ltd. Alex Royf The Business Centre Upton, St. Michael (BB) BB11103 @abstractholdings.com +1.(246)436 8600 Technical Contact Abstract Holdings International Ltd. Alex Royf The Business Centre Upton, St. Michael (BB) BB11103 @abstractholdings.com +1.(246)436 8600 Regards Ali Hussein On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Alice Munyua <alice@apc.org> wrote:
-- *Ali Hussein|Managing Partner* * *Telemedia Africa Azania Technology Group Chaka Court, Argwings Kodhek Road P O Box 14556-00100 Office: +254 737 751409 Cell: +254 773/713 601113 *Nairobi, Kenya* Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo "You generally hear that what a man doesn't know doesn't hurt him, but in business what a man doesn't know does hurt.". - E. St. Elmo Lewis, member, Advertising Hall of Fame
Ali Hussein, kenya.com was registered in 1995 when domain squatting was taking root. I wonder how many of us knew what a domain is. On 13 June 2012 16:33, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva For Business Development Transworld Computer Channels Cel: 0722402248 twitter.com/lordmwesh www.transworldAfrica.com | Fluent in computing kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know
Good question Kivuva. In Internet time that was eons ago. Question is how about now. What can we do? Cyber squatting is still very prevalent. Ali Hussein +254 773/713 601113 Sent from my iPhone® On Jun 13, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
interesting, on new gTLDs, is there an application from Kenya/ East Africa? looking forward to the discussions. 2012/6/13, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke>:
-- Grace L.N. Mutung'u (Bomu) Kenya Skype: gracebomu Twitter: GraceMutung'u (Bomu)
GraceSee the link for the list of applicants. http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/application-results/strings-1200... Strings include Africa, Africamagic (for MNet), Banana Republic, Bible, Christmas, Gay, Love, Salon, Sex, Soccer, Tattoo etc.
On 6/13/12, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> wrote:
and DotAfrica as well, which was interesting and quite clever I thought! -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
Tim, +1 So, .Africa and .Dotafrica (both geographic) are being applied for by Africans Quite clever indeed!! *ex africa semper aliquid novi* (Out of Africa, there is always something new! Pliny the Elder, 2000 years ago!) Enjoy! Pierre On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 12:41 AM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
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GG, .Africa is being applied for by the African community, Kenyais represented see http://www.africainonespace.org/, Kenya is playing a Kenya features prominently in African applications. Best Regards On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 2:12 AM, Dandjinou Pierre <pdandjinou@gmail.com>wrote:
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/
Pierre Nice quote on Africa! I must use it :) Ali Hussein +254 773/713 601113 Sent from my iPhone® On Jun 14, 2012, at 2:12 AM, Dandjinou Pierre <pdandjinou@gmail.com> wrote:
Ali Hussein, can we have a basis to ask ICANN/Verisign to surrender the name kenya.com to the republic? If its possible then that would be a landmark case. We have more examples like uganda.com that is clearly owned by a speculator. Other countries are not better off, with even southafrica.com controlled remotely from the west. On 13 June 2012 17:10, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Kivuva In fact there is precedence to this. In 2000 WIPO ( World Intellectual Property Organization ordered the owners of Barcelona.com to surrender the domain to the Barcelona City Council. More on that: http://www.findlaw.com.au/articles/1053/who-has-the-rights-in-geographical-d... The million dollar question is who can champion this. Or who has jurisdiction and more importantly the appetite for this? I remember a few years back when I was handling the Kenya Airways web properties urging KQ to secure all iterations of their name online. Do you know KQ still doesn't own kenyaairways.com? A few years ago it was being used as a blog to diss KQ. Now it's a landing page being used for monetization. And the list goes on.. Ali Hussein +254 773/713 601113 Sent from my iPhone® On Jun 14, 2012, at 5:26 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
it turns out that the most hotly contested name is .app applieda for by 13 companies, among them Google and Affilias. Other than the geographical aspect seems Africa is also missing from the commercial :( 2012/6/14, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke>:
-- Grace L.N. Mutung'u (Bomu) Kenya Skype: gracebomu Twitter: GraceMutung'u (Bomu)
Ali Hussein, it's sad that kenyaairways.com is owned by a different entity, but it is easy for it's legal team to claim the domain through litigation. For Kenya.com, I think the government can actually spearhead its acquisition and bringing it back home. Why don't we lobby the relevant body to ask the government to kickstart the operation. Ministry of Information, Directorate of e-gov, e.t.c Kenya.com can be a very good way for vision 2030 advertising Kenya as a commercial hub. Kenya Tourism board can also use it for advertising our great tourism attraction sites. Anybody from government listening? What government will want to know is how it will benefiting from the domain acquisition! The greatest answer would be eyeballs. The content hosted there gets a lot of eyeballs worldwide, which is "FREE" advertisement for the government. Regards 10rdmwesh On 14 June 2012 18:04, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva For Business Development Transworld Computer Channels Cel: 0722402248 twitter.com/lordmwesh www.transworldAfrica.com | Fluent in computing kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know
Kivuva I don't think Government doesn't understand the value. Its never too late to right this... Ali Hussein On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com>wrote:
-- *Ali Hussein|Managing Partner* * *Telemedia Africa Azania Technology Group Chaka Court, Argwings Kodhek Road P O Box 14556-00100 Office: +254 737 751409 Cell: +254 773/713 601113 *Nairobi, Kenya* Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo "You generally hear that what a man doesn't know doesn't hurt him, but in business what a man doesn't know does hurt.". - E. St. Elmo Lewis, member, Advertising Hall of Fame
Thanks GG. Regards Ali Hussein On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com>wrote:
-- *Ali Hussein|Managing Partner* * *Telemedia Africa Azania Technology Group Chaka Court, Argwings Kodhek Road P O Box 14556-00100 Office: +254 737 751409 Cell: +254 773/713 601113 *Nairobi, Kenya* Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo "You generally hear that what a man doesn't know doesn't hurt him, but in business what a man doesn't know does hurt.". - E. St. Elmo Lewis, member, Advertising Hall of Fame
Thank you Grace. I was keen on seeing e-Governance Regards 10rdmwesh On 13 June 2012 11:04, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> wrote:
-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva For Business Development Transworld Computer Channels Cel: 0722402248 twitter.com/lordmwesh www.transworldAfrica.com | Fluent in computing kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know
participants (8)
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Ali Hussein -
Alice Munyua -
Barrack Otieno -
Dandjinou Pierre -
Grace Githaiga -
Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) -
Kivuva -
McTim