When will we have state operatives that are digitally switched on or is it us the voters who get leaders we deserve. Am persuaded to believe by 5th march we will have a new set of connected back street wanna get rich low end performers itching to be the first to steal their first billion and act daft or indifferent. Sent from my iPad On Nov 26, 2012, at 8:23 PM, "Kivuva" <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:

That is a complete copycat of http://www.whitehouse.gov/.

And that is the power of drupal. Very complex but brings out the dream

On 26 November 2012 20:08, Simeon Oriko <simeonoriko@gmail.com> wrote: Listers,

I came across the redone Uganda Statehouse website and was completely wowed!

http://www.statehouse.go.ug/

Do our government agencies care about the image we portray of our country - especially considering our leadership in the digital space?

Kind Regards,

Simeon Oriko

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As much as I like the website for the State House of Uganda, I absolutely don't like the plagiarism I see in terms of 'copy paste' of the design, look and feel from the White House one. Someone should be paid to innovate and be creative not just 'pull' and paste. Best Regards, Davis M Onsakia "One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time." On 26 November 2012 22:03, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:

If you want to know how seriously Kenya govt takes aesthetics, then just look at our car registration plates!

If you want to know how seriously Kenya govt takes web content, look at our various ministries websites!

I can say the UG govt booked a professional web design outfit for this website. The Kenyan govt booked a well-connected relative to someone to do the state house website.

Even a volunteer like @brainiac couldn't get them to take his offer, lest he discredit the well-connected folk!

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Simeon Oriko <simeonoriko@gmail.com>wrote:

...

Listers,

I came across the redone Uganda Statehouse website and was completely wowed!

http://www.statehouse.go.ug/

Do our government agencies care about the image we portray of our country - especially considering our leadership in the digital space?

Kind Regards,

Simeon Oriko

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Dear Harry, Plagiarism does not mean copy word for word or have design which fits the other 100%. I think it is the same way breaking somebody's leg in a football match will earn you a red card the way a demonstrated intention to break somebody's leg will have you send off from the game. I hope you get the drift........ I stand corrected though. Best Regards, Davis M Onsakia "One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time." On 28 November 2012 13:42, Harry Karanja <kkairo@gmail.com> wrote:

Looking at the two sites side by side, I disagree that the Ugandan one is a copy/paste of the American one. There are some similarities between the two but also with hundreds of other sites. It's clear the developer used a CMS to develop the system and probably an off the shelf template, but that's completely reasonable. The Ugandan site actually stands out for its differences. Things like "ask the president" and "media gallery" are notable differences. See the two side by side below.

[image: image.png][image: image.png]

[image: image.png][image: image.png]

Regards, Harry Karanja

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 28, 2012, at 7:42 AM, Davis Onsakia <mautidavis@gmail.com> wrote:

As much as I like the website for the State House of Uganda, I absolutely don't like the plagiarism I see in terms of 'copy paste' of the design, look and feel from the White House one. Someone should be paid to innovate and be creative not just 'pull' and paste.

Best Regards, Davis M Onsakia "One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time."

On 26 November 2012 22:03, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:

...

If you want to know how seriously Kenya govt takes aesthetics, then just look at our car registration plates!

If you want to know how seriously Kenya govt takes web content, look at our various ministries websites!

I can say the UG govt booked a professional web design outfit for this website. The Kenyan govt booked a well-connected relative to someone to do the state house website.

Even a volunteer like @brainiac couldn't get them to take his offer, lest he discredit the well-connected folk!

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Simeon Oriko <simeonoriko@gmail.com>wrote:

...

Listers,

I came across the redone Uganda Statehouse website and was completely wowed!

http://www.statehouse.go.ug/

Do our government agencies care about the image we portray of our country - especially considering our leadership in the digital space?

Kind Regards,

Simeon Oriko

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I like the site. At least they understand how to find a quick (& legal) route to a web site that doesn't make nonsense of their image. Kind regards, Muchiri Nyaggah | LEAD FELLOW, CODE4KENYA @muchiri Cell: +254 722 506400 Skype: mrmuchiri WWW.CODE4KENYA.ORG On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 5:22 PM, John Ochoti <jonsom.o@gmail.com> wrote:

Davis,

If the site performs to the expectation of the user (state house Uganda) we don't need to even think about plagiarism. If you can customize an application to serve your needs it means you'll have more time to do more things.

For example rather than develop a plane from scratch you may choose to improve the landing mechanism of an existing one -- this alone brings a lot of value and is likely to generate more incremental revenue than a completely new design

John

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Davis Onsakia <mautidavis@gmail.com>wrote:

...

Dear Harry,

Plagiarism does not mean copy word for word or have design which fits the other 100%. I think it is the same way breaking somebody's leg in a football match will earn you a red card the way a demonstrated intention to break somebody's leg will have you send off from the game.

I hope you get the drift........

I stand corrected though.

Best Regards, Davis M Onsakia "One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time."

On 28 November 2012 13:42, Harry Karanja <kkairo@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Looking at the two sites side by side, I disagree that the Ugandan one is a copy/paste of the American one. There are some similarities between the two but also with hundreds of other sites. It's clear the developer used a CMS to develop the system and probably an off the shelf template, but that's completely reasonable. The Ugandan site actually stands out for its differences. Things like "ask the president" and "media gallery" are notable differences. See the two side by side below.

[image: image.png][image: image.png]

[image: image.png][image: image.png]

Regards, Harry Karanja

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 28, 2012, at 7:42 AM, Davis Onsakia <mautidavis@gmail.com> wrote:

As much as I like the website for the State House of Uganda, I absolutely don't like the plagiarism I see in terms of 'copy paste' of the design, look and feel from the White House one. Someone should be paid to innovate and be creative not just 'pull' and paste.

Best Regards, Davis M Onsakia "One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time."

On 26 November 2012 22:03, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:

...

If you want to know how seriously Kenya govt takes aesthetics, then just look at our car registration plates!

If you want to know how seriously Kenya govt takes web content, look at our various ministries websites!

I can say the UG govt booked a professional web design outfit for this website. The Kenyan govt booked a well-connected relative to someone to do the state house website.

Even a volunteer like @brainiac couldn't get them to take his offer, lest he discredit the well-connected folk!

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Simeon Oriko <simeonoriko@gmail.com>wrote:

...

Listers,

I came across the redone Uganda Statehouse website and was completely wowed!

http://www.statehouse.go.ug/

Do our government agencies care about the image we portray of our country - especially considering our leadership in the digital space?

Kind Regards,

Simeon Oriko

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